Jul 09, 2026 Planning & Zoning Commission

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IT'S 6:00. CALL TO ORDER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANT BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY,

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PRESENT. DOROTHY CRAWFORD. PRESENT. KATE BARLOW.

PRESENT. TOM JACOBSEN. PRESENT. BRUCE EMERY CHAIRMAN.

PRESENT. PRESENT. J.R. SMITH. PRESENT. MIKE INGRAHAM.

PRESENT. GREETINGS, FOLKS. WE GET THE WHOLE CREW HERE.

ROGER. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. WASN'T GONE LONG.

JUST THE WRONG TIME. WELL, I KNOW, BUT EVERYONE'S GOOD.

SO PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY YOU PROVIDED US TO SERVE OUR FELLOW CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

GUIDE US AS WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS AND OUR REVIEW OF OUR WORK BEFORE US THIS EVENING.

KEEPING IN MIND THE BENEFIT OF ALL. WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE, AND OUR FIRE AND CITY STAFF.

SO THIS WE WISH IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT. HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING ON JUNE

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I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS STATED.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? MINUTES OF JUNE 25TH HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING IS FOR DISCUSSION TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE AND DISCUSS REVISIONS TO SECTION 5.5 ENTITLED SCREENING REQUIREMENTS

[2. Receive an update on the zoning ordinance re-write and discuss revisions to Section 5.5 entitled Screening Requirements, Section 5.6 entitled Landscaping Requirements, and Section 5.15 entitled Tree Preservation. ]

WE HAVE STAFF WES MORRISON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THIS SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO MOST OF YOU. WE WENT OVER IT IN FAIRLY GOOD DETAIL AT OUR LAST MEETING ON THE 25TH, AND I'VE ALREADY LOST MY REMOTE TONIGHT. AND SO SOME OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION WHERE WE REVISED THE TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

WE CAN KIND OF GO OVER THAT IN DETAIL HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

WE ADDED PLANT SUBSTITUTION PROVISION THAT WAS IN COMMENTS.

WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW IF TREES OR PLANTS INTERFERED WITH UTILITIES, OVERHEAD POWER LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PREVIOUS DOCUMENT THAT YOU SAW DID NOT HAVE A SUBSTITUTION PROVISION IN THERE.

SO WE ADDED THAT IN THERE AS WELL. WE CHANGED THE EXCEPTION APPROVAL PROCESS FOR DISTRICT BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS FROM ADMINISTRATIVE TO LEGISLATIVE. SO NOW IT KEEPS IN LINE WITH THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY LAID OUT TODAY, WHICH IT GOES THROUGH P&Z AND THEN FINAL APPROVAL AT COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING FROM 350FT² TO 700FT² FOR REQUIRED TREES AND SHRUBS TO BE PLANTED. SO WITH THAT, LET ME JUST KIND OF JUMP INTO SOME OF THOSE CHANGES IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO TOUCH ON, IF YOU FLIP TO AND I'M GOING TO GET THERE, I SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE.

IF YOU FLIP TO PAGE TWO, I BELIEVE STARTING AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE, I APOLOGIZE.

WE ADDED IN A KIND OF A SLIDING SCALE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THAT ONE'S BEING KIND OF DIVIDED INTO TWO SECTIONS, ONE BEING THAT FOR LOTS 5000FT² OR LESS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE TREE IN A, OF A THREE INCH CALIPER, EITHER BE ORNAMENTAL OR LARGE DEPENDING ON BY REFERENCING APPENDIX A FOR THE APPROVED PLANT LIST. AND THEN FOR AND THAT TREE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED IN THE FRONT YARD.

AND THEN FOR LOTS LARGER THAN FIVE 5000FT², THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE TREE IN THE FRONT YARD AND THEN ANOTHER TREE OF THE SAME SIZE IN EITHER ANY PLACE AS PREFERENCE BY THE OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER.

SO THAT'S KIND OF REDUCING IT A LITTLE BIT FROM THE ORIGINAL THREE, BUT IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT.

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AND THAT'S FINE IF WE YOU DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT LOT SIZES WITH THE LAST PROVISION.

SO IF IT'S A SMALL LOT. SO IF YOU WANT TO KEEP 5000 OR MORE AT THREE TREES, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE.

AND FOR THE SMALL LOTS, IT DOES NOT SAY THAT IT HAS TO BE.

WHERE DOES IT SAY IT HAS TO BE IN THE FRONT YARD? YES.

YOU CAN ASK THE SAME QUESTION IT USED TO, BUT IN THE NEW READ IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.

YOU'RE CORRECT. IT DOESN'T. I JUST IN MY MIND IT SAID THAT.

SO WE'LL FIX THAT AS WELL. I'D ALSO WONDER ABOUT YOU, SAID ORNAMENTAL.

THERE'S ONLY TWO THINGS IN APPENDIX A, THERE'S LARGE AND SMALL ORNAMENTAL.

THEN I PROBABLY MEANT SMALL. SEE, THAT'S WHY YOU ALL ARE HERE.

WES. DO YOU KNOW? BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

DO YOU WANT TO GROUP TOGETHER SMALL AND ORNAMENTAL TOGETHER? AND I CAN EXPLAIN LATER ON BECAUSE THEY FIT IN THE SAME THING.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, THAT MIGHT JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT. WE REDID OUR CC&RS A FEW YEARS BACK.

WE SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF WORKING ON THEM. AND WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT THEY RETAINED AN ATTORNEY AND THE ATTORNEY DEVELOPS IT, BUT WHAT HE DID, IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS. IT WAS PROBABLY TAKEN FROM COLLIERVILLE OR SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE WE'RE ON 44 FOOT EXCEPT FOR TWO HOUSES, 44 FOOT WIDE, LOTS THAT ARE 110FT DEEP, RIGHT? AND IT REQUIRED THREE LARGE TREES. OKAY. THAT WASN'T GOING TO GO.

SO WE USED, WE GAVE THEM A CHOICE. THEY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TREE.

OKAY. OF EITHER A LARGE TREE OR A SMALL SLASH ORNAMENTAL TYPE TREE.

AND WE SPECIFIED THE ONES AND I CAN GET INTO THAT.

AND THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN I'M NOT SURE WHERE THESE PARTICULAR TREES AND THINGS CAME FROM WES.

BUT I'VE GOT SOME OPINIONS. AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT, MAYBE WE CAN TOUCH.

YEAH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE APPROVED PLANT LIST A LITTLE BIT LATER. LET'S, LET'S SAVE THAT FOR THAT CONVERSATION. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF WE COULD JUST KEEP IT ON THE FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

OKAY. WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE NEED TO ADD IN THE FRONT YARD DISCLOSURE AND THEN REPLACE ORNAMENTAL TO SMALL TO MATCH THE APPROVED PLANT LIST AND ALSO ON THE LOTS 5000 OR LARGER. AM I HEARING THAT YOU WANT TO GO FROM 2 TO 3? MAYBE NOT. AS LONG AS THERE'S A PROVISION THAT THERE'S ONE IN THE FRONT THAT WAS MISSING FROM HERE.

IF THERE'S ONE IN THE FRONT, THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF COMPLEXITIES FOR WHERE DO THE OTHER TWO GO? BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER TREE ON THE LOT OF THAT SIZE, I THINK THAT MEETS OUR GOALS, I THINK.

OKAY. BUT ADD THE LANGUAGE FIRST. WE'LL ADD THAT FOR YOUR.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I DIDN'T SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT, BECAUSE I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE CHANGES.

SO. OKAY. WITH THAT. THEN WE'RE THERE. OKAY. THERE WAS A THING IN HERE FOR PARAGRAPH RIGHT BELOW THAT PARAGRAPH THREE ABOUT THE CO BEING ISSUED AND, AND OR POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDING THE TIME FOR THE PLANTING OF THE LANDSCAPING. WELL I, JUST WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON.

WELL, I'M ON THE TOP OF PAGE TWO, WHICH IS PARAGRAPH THREE.

PARAGRAPH THREE. OH, YEAH. IF IT'S DETERMINED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE PLANNING OF LIVE MATERIALS IS HINDERED BY ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS, AND EXTENSION OF TIME MAY BE GRANTED FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO SIX MONTHS.

YES, SIR. I THINK YOU SHOULD ADD THAT DOES NOT DELAY THE ISSUANCE OF THE CO, BECAUSE IF YOU READ IT LIKE THIS, YOU CAN'T GET THE CO TILL YOU DO THE PLANTING.

THEN IF YOU GET A SIX MONTH EXTENSION NOW YOU CAN'T GET YOUR YOUR CO FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THERE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT DELAYS THE CO ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TOO.

I MEAN I WE CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. I'M NOT SURE THAT I DON'T READ IT THAT WAY.

BUT FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, IF YOU WANT TO ADD WE'LL CLARIFY THAT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T PERSONALLY READ IT THAT WAY. OKAY.

I JUST. OKAY. IT WOULDN'T BE ISSUED UNTIL THE OFFICIAL, YOU KNOW, DETERMINES ALL THE LANDSCAPE HAS BEEN INSTALLED.

AND SO OKAY, I WILL JUST CLARIFY THAT. JUST A FLAG.

NO. THAT'S FAIR. HEY, WES. YES. AND I MIGHT BE JUMPING AROUND.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THE LAST MEETING. WE WERE OUT OF TOWN. THERE WAS A NOTE, AND I'M SORRY.

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AND I LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR 24 YEARS. SO I KIND OF KNOW THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY HAD, BUT BASICALLY THEY SAID, OH, THOSE TREES WERE DYING.

KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW, AND IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, I WOULD HAVE DEBATED THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME.

BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHO DECIDES? WHO DECIDES WHAT IS A DISEASED TREE? SO IT'S GOT TO BE A CERTIFIED ARBORIST. AND THAT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

OKAY. AND THE OTHER QUESTION, AND THIS IS KIND OF IN THE SAME, AND I THOUGHT I READ IT IN HERE IN DOING A, OKAY, WE HAVE A NEW SUBDIVISION GOING IN SOMEPLACE.

THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN. IS IT MANDATORY THAT THAT PLAN IS DEVELOPED BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT? YES IT IS. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO MOVING ON WITH THESE PLANT SUBSTITUTIONS THAT'S FOUND ON THE TOP OF PAGE THREE.

JUST GIVES YOU A ROADSHOW THERE IF YOU'RE DOING, IF YOU NEED TO FOR LARGE TREES FOR ONE LARGE TREE, YOU MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF TEN SHRUBS. ONE LARGE TREE MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF TWO.

I'M SORRY. I'M SPEAKING AHEAD OF MYSELF. ONE LARGE TREE MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF TWO REQUIRED SMALL TREES.

AND IT SAYS SHALL TREES. SO WE'LL FIX THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN ON SMALL TREES, ONE SMALL TREE MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF FIVE REQUIRED SHRUBS, AND THE SMALL TREES MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF ONE REQUIRED LARGE TREE.

AND THEN GRASS IS AN ORNAMENTAL MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF ONE REQUIRED SHRUB.

ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT ADDITION?[INAUDIBLE] A REASON WHY IT'S TWO TREES, ONE LARGE EQUALS TWO SMALL.

THREE SMALL EQUALS. WE. YEAH, WE WERE JUST TAKING WHAT WE FOUND IN COMMON IN OTHER CITIES, BUT IT'S IT'S AGAIN, WHATEVER THE COMMISSION PREFERS.

DID YOU DID YOU CORRECT THE WORD RIGHT UNDER SMALL TREES YOU'VE GOT ONCE SMALL TREE INSTEAD OF ONE.

YES, YES. WE PASSED THAT. WE PASSED THAT. THE CHAIRMAN GAVE ME SOME SOME GRAMMAR ERRORS EARLIER TODAY, WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS. I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

BUT LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY THERE WAS A NEW COMMERCIAL AREA GOING IN.

COULD THEY AVOID ALL TREES BY JUST PLANTING X NUMBER OF SHRUBS? OR IS THIS JUST SAYING, OKAY, I'LL PLANT TEN SHRUBS AND ONLY ONE TREE INSTEAD OF TWO TREES AND FIVE SHRUBS.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT? THERE'S A REASON.

I MEAN, SHRUBS AND TREES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE THING WITH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE A VISION.

AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU DIDN'T TAKE THIS OFF YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE'S OR SIMILAR, BUT YOU KNOW, COULD THEY GO IN AND JUST DO ALL FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AND NO TREES? OR COULD THEY DO TREES AND NO FOUNDATION PLANTINGS? I THINK YOU WANT TO BALANCE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

NO, I UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T. AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT AND WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE IN THE HEADING SECTION.

THIS IS RELATED TO WHETHER THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING UTILITIES, CONFLICTING OVERHEAD LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE CAN WRITE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME TYPE OF TOPOGRAPHY ISSUE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE CLARIFY THAT TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN? LIKE YOU CAN'T REPLACE ALL THE LARGE TREES WITH A THOUSAND SHRUBS, RIGHT? IT'S ONE ONE DEAL PER SITE. 1. 1 SUBSTITUTION PER SITE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? ROGER, ROGER, I GET YOUR POINT HERE. YES, BUT THIS PARTICULAR H PARAGRAPH REALLY TALKS ABOUT REPLACING SHRUBS, NOT TREES THAT YOU CAN PLANT MORE TREES OR YOU CAN PLANT LESS SHRUBS.

IT'S NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SUBBING SHRUBS FOR TREES, IS FOR SHEDDING A LARGE TREE FOR TEN SHRUBS. OKAY. SO IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. WE'RE NOT LOSING TREES.

WE'RE ADDING TREES. TREES. OKAY. OKAY. DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN OR? IN THIS PARAGRAPH. OKAY. YEAH, IT'S A BALANCE.

OKAY. COOL. OKAY. YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS, AND THIS ISN'T TO BE CRITICAL OF ANYBODY, BUT YOU CAN TELL AN AMATEUR LANDSCAPE PLAN VERSUS ONE THAT WAS DONE BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

AND I COULD WALK IN AND I COULD TELL YOU WE WERE UP AT THE HYDRANGEA FEST IN, IN CAPE COD,

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IT WAS FABULOUS. WE WALKED, WE WENT TO ANOTHER HOUSE IN ANOTHER TOWN.

AND I SAID TO MY WIFE, I SAID, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DID THIS.

WHEN WE WALKED IN THE BACKYARD, MET THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND YOU JUST SEE CERTAIN THINGS. AND I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AS YOU WELL KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S DIFFERENCES.

SO YEAH. AND THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS REQUIRED TO BE PREPARED BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THE THIRD BULLET POINT HERE IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT I WANTED TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS ON PAGE. OH. OH. WHERE AM I AT? HERE.

PAGE 11 OF 27 ON THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. I TOOK THAT EXACT, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE. WE KIND OF MADE THAT AMENDMENT, I THINK EARLY 24, MAYBE LATE 23.

IT JUST SAYS THAT AN EXCEPTION TO THE DISTRICT BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT HAS TO REALLY RELATE TO UNIQUE LAND CONDITIONS, AND IT CANNOT BE A FINANCIAL OR ECONOMIC HARDSHIP.

AND ALSO IT GOES THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY APPROVAL AT CITY COUNCIL. SO I THINK THAT'S WORKED PRETTY WELL.

I THINK WE'VE ONLY HAD MAYBE 1 OR 2 OF THOSE COME FORWARD SINCE THEN.

BUT SO WE JUST DECIDED BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, THE LAST MEETING, WE'D KEEP THAT SAME LANGUAGE AND THEN MOVING ON TO, AND I MAY HAVE SKIPPED IT HERE, WHICH WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ON THE, KIND OF THE SIZE OF AREAS FOR TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND I'M GETTING CONFUSED ON MY PAPERWORK HERE, SO JUST GIVE ME A SECOND.

YES. I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR? OH THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED TO.

JUST ONE SECOND. SORRY.

PAGE SIX. IT'S TALKING ABOUT PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING AND ITEM THREE D THERE.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY THAT ONE LARGE TREE AND FOUR SHRUB SHALL BE PLANTED AND MAINTAINED FOR EACH.

IT ORIGINALLY SAID 350FT² OF PARKING LOT AREA.

AND BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS LAST MEETING, WE WANTED TO INCREASE THAT TO 700FT².

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE CHANGE WE MADE THERE. ANY CONVERSATION ON THAT SUBJECT.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE FUN STUFF. OKAY.

HOW FUN ARE WE GOING TO GET HERE? HOW FUN. CAN I, CAN I STOP AT PAGE TEN BEFORE.

ARE YOU GOING PAST? NOPE. YOU. WE CAN GO TO PAGE TEN BECAUSE THE REST OF THE STUFF IS JUST OTHER THINGS.

SO LET'S GO TO PAGE TEN. I'M SORRY. LET ME JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.

I'M ASSUMING THIS WAS CHANGED AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING.

YES. THIS CHANGE DID COME FROM THAT. YES. AND FELT THAT IT WAS TWO OWNERS.

OKAY, GOOD. PERFECT WORD. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND TO TOUCH ON THAT THIS EXHIBIT HERE JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU.

MICAH DID SOME REALLY GOOD RESEARCH FOR US TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SPACING OF TREES AND WHAT, WHAT IS RECOMMENDED. AND SO THE SHOULD HAVE LABELED THESE.

BUT THE THE TWO SMALLER TREES OBVIOUSLY, ARE THESE SMALL TREES THERE.

THE SPACING FOR THOSE, SO THEY RECOMMEND ANYWHERE FROM 100FT² TO 225, OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON SPECIES.

SO I THINK IF WE STICK WITH THE THE LARGER OF BOTH OF THESE RANGES BEING 900FT² FOR A LARGE TREE, 225FT² FOR A SMALL TREE, THAT'S A GOOD SAFE AREA TO BE.

THAT WAY THEY CAN PICK ANY TYPE OF SPECIES AND RECOVERED THERE.

ALSO A GOOD POINT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR, OUR TREE SPACING REQUIREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER IT BE STREET BUFFER YARDS DISTRICT BUFFER YARDS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

WE'RE ALREADY AT THE 30, 1 TREE FOR EVERY 30FT.

SO WE'RE ALREADY MEETING THAT SPACING REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE KIND OF CONSISTENT IN THAT AREA AS LONG AS WE STAY IN THAT.

ANY CONCERNS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE REQUIREMENTS? NO. BUT I HAVE A GENERAL. PLEASE GO AHEAD. QUESTION IN READING THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUFFER YARDS AND A COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT BORDERS STREETS. OKAY. IS THAT IF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE PERCENTAGES THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE, AND THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO A STREET BUFFER YARD, ARE THOSE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE,

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YOUR BUFFER YARD FOR WHAT WE SAY DISTRICT IS BETWEEN TWO NON-COMPATIBLE USES, RIGHT.

SO THAT'S AN EASY ONE. I THINK WHERE YOU MAY BE GETTING A LITTLE THE LINES GET A LITTLE BLURRED ARE PARKING LOT BUFFER VERSUS STREET BUFFER.

KEEP IN MIND WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WE HAVEN'T DONE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS YET, BUT THAT IS COMING.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, ESPECIALLY YOUR LARGER BUILDINGS THAT THE PARKING BE BEHIND OR TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO THE STREET BUFFER IN THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN IS THAT STREET BUFFER YARDS ONLY APPLY IF YOU HAVE PARKING BETWEEN THE, I'M SORRY, PARKING BUFFER YARDS ADJACENT TO A STREET ARE ONLY REQUIRED IF YOU HAVE PARKING ADJACENT TO THE STREET.

SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL KIND OF.

BUT DOES THE DOES THE BUFFER YARD COUNT AS PART OF THE REQUIRED PERCENTAGE OF LANDSCAPING? OH YES. YES IT DOES. YES. SO YOU GET THE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE 20% OR WHATEVER LANDSCAPING OF THIS KIND.

AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE AS DOT SAID, THE SPECIFIC PLOT LOCATION.

PART OF THAT LANDSCAPING HAS TO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF A BUFFER YARD OF SOME SORT, WHETHER IT BE TO THE STREET OR TO AN ADJACENT PROPERTY.

YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 20% ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER BUFFERS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS. YES. NO, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY.

RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. MR. SMITH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PAGE TEN? NO, I REALLY I'M NOT REALLY. OKAY. BACK UP. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE APPROVED PLANT LIST THAT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT.

SO STAFF DID SOME COMPARISON AND I SAY STAFF, I MEAN, MICAH, BECAUSE HE DID ALL THE WORK ON THIS.

WE WE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR CURRENT DRAFT WAS AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, WE SAID WE WOULD LOOK AT OUR CURRENT DRAFT AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. AND ADDITION, MICAH HAD THE, THE, THE KNOWLEDGE TO LOOK AT WHAT TEXAS IS DOING, WHICH IS ALSO A WHAT COG RECOMMENDS. AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE HE KIND OF MARKED THIS UP.

AND AND YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ON YOUR SCREEN. WE DIDN'T.

SO DON'T START LOOKING FOR IT. WHAT WE, WE KIND OF DECIDED THIS THIS WEEK.

WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT OURS. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT'S IN GREEN IS ON BOTH LIST.

AND WE'RE COMPARING OURSELVES TO THIS TEXAS SMART SCAPE, WHICH TEXAS SMART SCAPE IS DESIGNED BY ARBORIST HORTICULTURIST SPECIFICALLY FOR NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. SO THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SPECIES THAT ARE ON BOTH LISTS ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.

SPECIES THAT ARE NOT ON OUR DRAFT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT 18 THAT ARE ON OUR DRAFT THAT ARE NOT ON EITHER, WHICH TELLS ME WE'VE GOT SOME OUR DRAFT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. SO WITH THAT, I THOUGHT TO MAKE THIS EASIER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY LICENSED ARCHITECTS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON THE BOARD.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME THAT LIKE TO PRETEND AND SOME THAT ARE GOOD.

SO SOME ARE GOOD PRETENDERS, BUT BUT ANYWAY, WHAT I WAS THINKING AFTER MIKE AND I TALKED WAS WHY DON'T WE JUST ADOPT THE TEXAS SMART SCAPE AND BE DONE WITH IT? WE KNOW IT'S BEEN VETTED BY PROFESSIONALS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COG RECOMMENDS AND IT'S JUST EASIER.

IF Y'ALL WANT A COMPLETE LIST, I KNOW WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU BEFORE YOU OFFICIALLY ADOPT IT.

THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST KIND OF A COMMON SENSE APPROACH THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A REAL EASY, CLEAR CUT WAY TO DO IT THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC UPDATE REVIEW IF THEY CHANGE THEIR LIST, WE'RE OFF AT THE TIME, ADOPTING WHATEVER THEIR CURRENT RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND. ABSOLUTELY.[INAUDIBLE] HAVE A LARGE AND A SMALL LIST, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

DO YOU REMEMBER? YES THEY DO. YEAH. AND WE WOULD PROBABLY WORD IT IN THE ORDINANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, TEXAS AS AMENDED THAT WAY ANYTIME THEY AMENDED IT, IT'S ALWAYS UPDATED.

THAT'D BE A SMART THING TO DO. I AGREE WITH THAT.

MAYBE I'M GOING TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT. YOU MIGHT I, I FIGURED YOU WOULD.

SO YOU'RE YOU'RE LIVING UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS, SIR.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I THINK BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SEE FROM HERE, BUT.

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AND IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THE TOWNHOMES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO GO IN ACROSS FROM CAFE SICILIA.

OKAY. AND THERE WAS A DETENTION POND AND THERE WERE SOME POST POST OAKS AND SOME BLACKJACK OAKS THAT THEY'D HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE THAT WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAY WITH THE WATER. AND I SAID TO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING IN SOME BALD CYPRESS? AND HE SAID, OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WOULD I PUT A BALD CYPRESS IN MY FRONT YARD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THEY DEVELOPED KNEES. WE HAVE SOME IN OUR SUBDIVISION.

OKAY. AND IT'S WHERE IT STAYS WET. AND WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPER EVERY SO OFTEN LITERALLY GRIND DOWN THE KNEES BECAUSE THEY JUST KEEP COMING UP.

SO THERE WERE, I'M TRYING TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S ON AN ANGLE.

LIVE OAKS AND I MEAN LIVE OAKS. WELL, IF YOU AND YOU WERE, I THINK YOU WERE HERE IN FEBRUARY OF 21 WHEN WE HAD THE STRANGE.

YOU WERE NOT, WE HAD A STRANGE FREEZE AND WE LOST SOME EXISTING LIVE OAKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE ARE ZONE EIGHT PLANT. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ZONE EIGHT.

I DON'T I STICK TO ZONE SEVEN BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THROUGH ENOUGH WINTERS HERE THAT DO THIS AND I READ SOME ARTICLES AND THERE WAS A FEELING THAT THE LIVE OAKS WHO HAD PARENTAGE OUT OF THE CAROLINAS, WHERE IT GETS COLDER VERSUS THE LIVE OAKS THAT HAD PARENTAGE OUT OF SOUTH TEXAS, DIDN'T MAKE IT. I'M NOT SAYING TAKE LIVE OAKS OFF THE LIST.

I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS VERY INTERESTING THAT SOME MADE IT AND SOME DIDN'T.

THEY ARE LISTED AS A ZONE EIGHT PLANT, AND LIKE I SAID, I LIMIT MYSELF TO ZONE SEVEN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME OF THESE WINTERS THAT GET A LITTLE CRAZY. I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE A COUPLE OF THESE.

SO HERE, JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT. I MEAN, I THINK THAT OH, GO AHEAD.

PECAN GROW REAL WELL HERE. OKAY. I GET A LOT OF ACORNS.

TOM AND I TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

I ACTUALLY HAVE MY TREE TREATED. BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A MAST EAR, RIGHT.

TOM. AND YOU HAVE MORE ACORNS YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH.

ANYWAY. PECANS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE TREES AND THEY LIVE HERE AND THEY DO, THEY CAN WHEN THEY DROP THOSE PECANS, THEY CAN BE A MESS. WOULD I PUT ONE IN MY FRONT YARD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY, SO I'M JUST. I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IT FROM THE SIDE.

YEAH. THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS, AND I KNOW I'M JUST TRYING TO BE.

YOU WANT YOU WANT ALL THESE THINGS TO SURVIVE AND LOOK GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S A TENDENCY SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS DIE, WHETHER IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL OR EVEN A BUSINESS SECTION, THERE'S SOMETIMES A LITTLE SLOW TO REPLACE, WHETHER IT'S SHRUBS OR TREES. AND THEN IT LOOKS KIND OF UGLY FOR A WHILE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING. SO AND THAT'S THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.

I, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LIVING THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO DIE SOME I CAN'T HELP.

BUT THAT'S WHERE AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN A ROBUST CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, WE, WE CAN GET THAT.

NOW, FOR INSTANCE, I'M THINKING OF ONE SITE AND I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IT HERE IN JUST A SECOND THAT FAIRLY NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE A DEAD TREE THAT IS RIGHT THERE. THEY PLANTED IT LAST SUMMER.

IT'S DEAD. WE WE GAVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE PERIOD JUST BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS ON LIFE SUPPORT, YOU'LL SAY. BUT NOW THEY KNOW THEY'VE GOT TO REPLACE THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM REPLACE IT WHEN IT'S 100 DEGREES OUTSIDE.

AND SO WE'RE GIVING THEM SOME TIME TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT IS I, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S CLIMATE, WHO KNOWS WHAT WEATHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TOMORROW.

AND AND I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO, TO MAKE A PLANT LIST THAT IS SO STRICT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ANY TYPE OF MOVEMENT TO IT. I'M OF THE SAME WAY I WANT IT AS BROAD AS WE CAN MAKE IT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO HAVE THINGS THAT WILL SURVIVE. ABSOLUTELY. AND WHEN YOU GET INTO THE SMALLER TREES, THERE'S SO MANY THAT FROM DESERT WILLOW TO POSSUM HOLLIES, THAT'S A YAUPON HOLLY THAT IS DECIDUOUS.

AND YOU'VE SEEN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FILLED WITH RED BERRIES IN THE WINTER.

VITEX. IT'S REFERRED TO AS THE TEXAS LILAC. I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THEM.

THOSE SHOULD BE. AND THEY'RE HARDY AS HELL. THEY'RE NOT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT. DID YOU SEE? THIS ISN'T THE FULL LIST, THOUGH, RIGHT? DO WHAT? THIS ISN'T THE FULL LIST, THOUGH. THIS IS NOT THE FULL LIST. YEAH.

THIS IS. SO I'M GOING TO GET YOU A COPY. THIS WAS JUST FOR CONVERSATION PURPOSES TONIGHT.

BUT. AND YEAH, I THINK SORRY, JUST WHILE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, JUST COME BACK A LITTLE BIT WITH, WITH THIS LIST BEING ATTACHED TO THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE FOR INITIAL DEVELOPMENTAL PLANTING REQUIREMENTS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL CLAUSES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS THING WHERE WHEN THEY DIE, THEY'VE GOT SO MANY TIMES TO,

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SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT MAYBE COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE, IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO GO BACK WITH THE SAME TREE THAT JUST DIED, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREE WITH THE SIMILAR SIZED TREE THAT WAS THERE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S BAKED INTO THE FACT THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT PECAN WASN'T A GOOD IDEA TO PUT IT THERE.

LET'S PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE. HOPEFULLY, THE MECHANISM OF THEM HAVING TO GO BACK AND REPLACE EITHER THE MISTAKE OR JUST A BAD TREE ELIMINATES SOME OF THE MINUTIA OF HELPING THEM CHOOSE WHICH TREE TO PLANT THEIR BEGINNING.

YEAH, HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER AND OVER RIGHT HERE TO SAY, HEY, IT DIED. FIX IT.

RIGHT. OKAY. I ALSO AGREE THAT LIKE, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO PUT A PECAN TREE IN YOUR YARD BECAUSE IT GETS CRAZY WITH DROPPINGS OR WHATEVER. BUT I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE.

YES. SO, YOU KNOW, A SYCAMORE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE YOUR BAG, BUT IT MIGHT BE MY BAG.

SO I THINK IT GIVES A LOT OF I THINK THIS IS A VETTED LIST BY PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT PLANTS THAN I AM.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE PERFECT LIST SOLUTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

AND AGAIN, I, I APOLOGIZE, WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN YOU THIS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO, TO FILL OUT WHAT ALL THE OTHER CITIES WERE DOING.

AND THAT'S AND I GIVE CREDIT TO MICAH FOR THIS BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY, WE SAT DOWN THIS MORNING AND STARTED KIND OF HAMMERING THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

AND I SAID, I AGREE, THIS JUST MAKES SENSE. LET'S JUST STICK WITH WHAT'S ALREADY TESTED AND DESIGNED BY SOMEBODY THAT'S IN OUR AREA.

THESE, FROM WHAT I COULD SEE, APPEAR TO BE ALL LARGE TREES.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY DO YOU HAVE A SIMILAR LIST FOR SMALLER.

WE WILL GET YOU THAT. YES, WE WILL, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS, FOR INSTANCE ON THE LIST THAT WE HAD CHINESE PISTACHE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS NOT A SMALL TREE. JUST DRIVE BY THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF RIVER FOREST AND IT'S A GREAT TREE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING, SOMEHOW IT GOT CATEGORIZED.

WELL. AND I AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING.

THE. WE REALIZED, I THINK GOING THROUGH THIS, OUR LAST MEETING THAT OUR CONSULTANT GAVE US THIS LIST AND, AND I'M NOT AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS SOME OF YOU ALL ABOUT THE TREE. SO I JUST TOOK WHAT OUR CONSULTANT GAVE US AS A CONVERSATION PART.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE REVISITED THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR REASON.

OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO ADD TOO MUCH MORE DEPTH TO THIS, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WATER IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN. WATERING PLANTS IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN.

IS THERE A LIST BY THIS ORGANIZATION OF PLANTS THAT MAYBE WE COULD ENCOURAGE THAT ARE LESS WATER INTENSIVE? I'M GOING TO PHONE A FRIEND HERE REAL QUICK. YOU LOOKED AT THE LIST.

YES.LIKE WHETHER THEY USE HEAVY WATER OR LIGHT AMOUNTS OF WATER.

SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT ON THE LIST IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

AND I'M NOT SURE. WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THAT MIGHT, FOR PERPETUITY SET US UP IN A BETTER WAY.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, ALSO INCLUDES A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL SPECIES AS WELL, INCLUDING LIKE THEIR FULL GROWTH SIZE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT JUST FOR EASE OF USE, WE FIGURED THE BOTANICAL NAME, THE COMMON NAME, AND THE DECIDUOUS OR EVERGREEN JUST FOR THIS EXAMPLE.

BUT WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE THINGS FOR SURE. AND JUST TO THAT POINT, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES NOT DOES REQUIRE IRRIGATION, DOES REQUIRE THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE ARE STEPPING UP IN THAT GAME AS WELL. PERFECT.

I WILL DEFER TO MY PLANT EXPERT FRIENDS HERE, BUT ON PAGE 22 AT THE BOTTOM TABLE, 5.5, F TWO AND I SIZES OF PLANTS AT INSTALLATION. TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC LIST OF WHAT ARE CONSIDERED LARGE TREES AND A SPECIFIC LIST OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED A SMALL TREE.

IS THAT I'M ON, I'M ON THE, I'M ON THE WEBSITE AND I'M ON THIS WEBSITE A LOT.

AND YEAH IF THEY DON'T QUITE DO IT THAT WAY, WE MAY HAVE TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE CONSIDER LARGE AS FAR AS HEIGHT, BECAUSE YOU LET THEM, THEY LET YOU SEARCH BY ORNAMENTAL OR BY SHADE TREES, ORNAMENTAL, SMALL, MEDIUM AND YOU DO HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO DETERMINE A HEIGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THESE LISTS.

AS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS CHART, YOU KNOW, LARGE TREE, YOU HAVE TO PLANT A THREE INCH CALIPER TREE.

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IN MY LITTLE BRAIN. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A SMALL TREE. WELL, THAT'S A TIME INSTALLATION.

SO YEAH, IF IT'S ON THE LIST OF WHERE IT'S NATURE IS, IT'S A, IT'S A RED MAPLE OR IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET THIS BIG BY ITS NATURE AT FULL GROWTH.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE DOT'S GOING WITH THAT. A 2.5IN CALIBER TREE SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL TREE.

AND IF IT'S ONLY GOING TO. SO IF THERE'S A FINITE LIST OF.

WHAT'S A SMALLER. WHAT'S A LARGE THEN. YEAH, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. I MEAN, SO THAT'S IT JUST SEEMED 2.5 DIDN'T SOUND LIKE A SMALL TREE.

I REALIZE THIS IS AT PLANTING TIME, BUT IT JUST I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

ROGER. WELL, SOMETIMES YOU GET INTO COST AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN ACTUAL EXAMPLE.

AND EVEN THE EXPERTS MAKE MISTAKES. NEIL SPERRY HAD AN ARTICLE, MY SIX BIGGEST MISTAKES IN LANDSCAPE BUSINESS IN HIS DEAL.

AND ONE WAS PUTTING IN WHAT ARE CALLED EL EL DORADO, EL CARRO OR ASPECT.

I CAN'T TALK. AFGHAN PINES. OKAY. AND THOSE WERE REALLY PUT IN BY LANDSCAPERS HEAVILY IN THE 80S AND 90S.

WE HAD A WHOLE BORDER OF THEM ALONG MARTIN, AND THEY GREW.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY STARTED TO BROWN OUT.

WELL, WHAT THEY DISCOVERED WAS THEY'RE NATIVE TO THE BORDER OF AFGHANISTAN AND RUSSIA, WHERE THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 20IN OF RAINFALL.

WE HAVE WE AVERAGE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AROUND 33.

SO THEY DON'T LIKE ALL THAT WATER. SO AT THE COST OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, WE HAD THEM ALL TAKEN OUT.

AND WE REPLACED THEM ALL WITH LITTLE GEM MAGNOLIAS THAT ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD AND THAT WILL HANDLE IT WELL.

BUT IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE DEAL. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WAS DEVELOPED.

AND SO YOU GOT TO SOME OF ITS YOU JUST LEARN BY EXPERIENCE.

WELL, TO NOT MAKE TOO BIG A DEAL OUT OF THIS, BUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS WE HAD A CHOICE AND IT GETS INTO COST.

WE COULD PUT IN 45 GALLON LITTLE GEM MAGNOLIAS.

OKAY. OR I COULD PUT IN 75 GALLON. OKAY. AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION AT THE TIME.

AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THEY'LL GROW AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

AND I WANTED TO MAINTAIN A BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO IN.

SO WE DECIDED WITH 45, THEY WERE THEY WERE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN DRIVE BY THERE TODAY. SOME HAVE BEEN IN FOR A FEW YEARS, SOME JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS. SO WITH THAT 45 GALLON SIZE, WHAT WOULD THE CALIPER INCHES OF THAT BE AT THAT SIZE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ASKING A SMALL TREE TO BE 2.5IN AT PLANTING.

AND IT'S A SMALL. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE IT TO GET THERE? I MEAN, I, THAT'S WHERE I DON'T, IT JUST SEEMS THIS MIGHT BE PROHIBITIVE TO SAY, YOU GOT TO WAIT TILL THE TREES THAT BIG BEFORE YOU CAN PLANT IT.

SHRUB SIZE FIVE GALLONS. WE HAD [INAUDIBLE] COULD BE BIGGER THAN THIS.

COULD IT BE COULD IT BE IT COULD BE. OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M JUST.

I WOULDN'T WANT THIS TO BE IN THERE. AND THEN THEY CAN'T FIND A TREE.

THAT'S A SMALL TREE THAT'S THAT BIG TO PLANT.

I KNOW THIS IS SEMANTICS, BUT WE GET DOWN TO A THING.

IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

WELL, WE CAN'T FIND A TREE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE YOU REMOVE THE CALIPER SIZE, YOU JUST LEAVE THE LIST AND THEN YOU'VE GOT BIG AND SMALL.

I MEAN, TO ME THAT SEEMS TO BE YES. WE HAD THAT HAPPEN WITH SAINT MICHAELS. YOU GOT A BIG AND SMALL LIST.

YEAH, BUT WE GOT APPROVED BY TEXAS SMART STATE, MIKE.

WE GOT TO HAVE THE CALIBRATIONS IN THERE BECAUSE IT MATCHES UP WITH THE TREE MITIGATION.

RIGHT? THE TREE PRESERVATION BECAUSE THAT'S ALL CALIPERS AND CALCULATIONS OF WHAT YOU GOT TO REPLACE IF YOU CUT DOWN A TREE.

SO WE GOT TO HAVE CALIPER INCHES IN FOR WHAT YOU GOT TO PLANT.

THAT'S THE CONNECTION. AND I'D ALSO MENTION THAT THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT IF YOU WANT WHATEVER YOU'RE PLANTING TO COUNT TOWARDS YOUR MITIGATION, IT'S GOT TO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE INCH CALIBER.

SO DO THEY HAVE CALIBER ON THIS LIST? IT'S NOT ALREADY A PART.

WELL, THIS LIST IS I MEAN, I, I'M ENVISIONING USING THIS LIST AS JUST A, A SPECIES TYPE.

AND THEN THE SIZE IS, IS SET BY US. YEAH.

GOOGLE SAYS THAT YOU CAN BUY A TWO AND A HALF CALIBER AEMI-MATURE CRAPE MYRTLE FOR 115, 300.

AND THIS GUY NEVER LIES. NO. NOW, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN GOOGLE, BUT HEY.

OKAY. ANYWAY, I JUST. IF YOU WOULD LIKE. FOR THINGS THAT THE WORDING SAYS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE I.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH. I MADE A NOTE. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS ON THAT.

OKAY, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH INTO THE TEXAS SMART SCAPE.

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ABSOLUTELY, YES. AND YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME.

YOU DON'T HAVE IT YET, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO USE THIS FOR THE SMALLER ORNAMENTAL TREES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR STARTING POINT. YES. OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. OH THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE.

OKAY. CORRECTIONS AND CHANGES. WHAT I WANTED TO DO REAL QUICK WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING A NEW ORDINANCE, YOU'D LIKE TO KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW WOULD THAT APPLY TO THIS ORDINANCE AND HOW, WHAT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT? SO MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEUROLOGY CLINIC.

YES. I NOTICED THEY HAD THAT WHOLE ROW OF NELLIES BEHIND THE BUILDING.

YES. SO I MR.. YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT WAS OUR ONE AND MAYBE ONLY TIME THAT THEY ACTUALLY CAME IN FOR A BUFFER YARD EXCEPTION. AND THE REASON THEY DID THAT, AND THE REASON IT WAS GRANTED IS BECAUSE THE PURPOSE IS TO BUFFER YARD THE MULTIFAMILY NEXT TO THEM. WELL, BUT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THAT SITE, YOU COULD HAVE PUT A EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL WITH PLANTINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND YOU STILL WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN, I MEAN, THE THE DIFFERENCE, I THINK THE SITE DIFFERENCE WAS LIKE 5 OR 6FT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO MAKE THEM DO THE MASONRY WALL.

THEY JUST DID THE LANDSCAPING. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE THERE WITH ALL THOSE LITTLE DOTTED TREES, THAT'S WHAT YOU, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, RIGHT? I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING TEST.

AND IT ALSO THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS. WELL, WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A PARKING LOT? WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THIS. WHAT'S THAT.

THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME OF THAT DATA THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND SAY, WELL, YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

OR NO, MAYBE WE WANT TO EITHER MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE STRICT OR A LITTLE BIT LESS STRICT.

SO THIS PARTICULAR SITE, I WANT TO CAUTION THIS BY SAYING, YES, IT WAS 42% LANDSCAPED, BUT THEY HAD A DETENTION REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAD TO MEET SO THAT TECHNICALLY GOES TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S LANDSCAPED AREA.

SO OUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 20% OF ALL SITES BE LANDSCAPED.

SO IN THIS CASE THEY WOULD MEET IT. BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE DEFICIENT ON.

SO BUILDING AREA 13000. SO IN THIS CASE IT WOULD REQUIRE TO HAVE A FOUNDATION PLANTINGS.

WHEREAS BEFORE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE VERY MINIMAL LANDSCAPING PLANTINGS AROUND THE FOUNDATION.

EXCEPT IN LOOKING AT THIS SOMETHING THAT IN THE FOUNDATION PLANNING PART, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION IN THE FOUNDATION PLANTING THING.

IF THERE'S A PARKING SPOT ALONG THAT WALL. AND PART OF THEIR DESIGN HERE WAS THOSE PARKING SPACES COME WITHIN LIKE SIDEWALK WIDTH FROM THE BUILDING. SO THEY, EVEN IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS IN PLACE, WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXEMPT FROM HAVING HAVING THAT LANDSCAPING THERE BECAUSE THERE'S PARKING SPACES THERE, RIGHT? I MISREAD THAT. I'M JUST RUNNING THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THAT WASN'T I'M GOING OFF MEMORY.

SO LET ME REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THIS. IF YOU LOOK ON FOUNDATION PLANTINGS OR ON PAGE FIVE 20% FOUNDATION PLANTINGS, BUILDINGS, NONRESIDENT BUILDINGS OF 25,000 SQUARE FOOT OR LESS MUST INSTALL FOUNDATION AREAS ALONG FRONT AND SIDE.

FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ARE ALSO REQUIRED AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, IF VISIBLE FROM STREETS OR OTHER BUILDINGS OR OPEN SPACES.

PARKING SPACES. I DON'T SEE THAT EITHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I IS NOT USED FOR BUILDING SIDEWALKS, ROADWAYS OR OTHER IMPERMEABLE SURFACE SHALL BE COVERED WITH LIVE GRASS.

SO THE WAY I'M READING THIS. AND UNLESS, BECAUSE THEN IT GOES TO LANDSCAPING OF PARKING LOTS.

I THINK THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THIS CASE TO DO A FOUNDATION PLANTING.

I THINK WHAT HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT HERE IS MAYBE NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OF 20,000, 25,000FT² OR LESS MUST INSTALL FOUNDATION PLANTING AREAS ALONG THE FRONT AND SIDE. FOUNDATION LINES WERE NOT IMPEDED BY BUILDING ENTRANCES, LOADING AREAS, PARKING SPACES OR SIDEWALKS.

SO. OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE THERE RIGHT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.

AND THAT'S NOT THIS CASE. THERE IS. AND IT'S I MAY HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE.

OKAY. THERE IS A SIDEWALK. THERE IS A SIDEWALK THERE.

YOU CAN SEE IF YOU ZOOM INTO THAT TOP PICTURE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THEY DO HAVE SHRUBS THERE.

SO IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT I'M SORRY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. SO IN THIS CASE THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.

OKAY. 7/11. EXACTLY. YEAH. IS THAT AREA OUT FRONT?

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IT IS. SO REAL QUICK HERE, AND I'VE GOT SOME OF THE FACTS.

I WASN'T GOING TO PUT THESE ALL ON THE ON THE SLIDE.

LET ME JUST ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING THAT.

OKAY. SO YOU HAVE ONE FOR LARGE TREES. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT KIND OF SIDEWAYS.

YOU'LL HAVE ONE FOR SMALLER ORNAMENTAL. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE SAME THING FOR SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER.

BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. TEXAS SMART SCAPE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. BUT YEAH, THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT WERE A LITTLE SQUIRRELY AND THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT THAT GROW REAL WELL HERE THAT THEY COULD USE.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK US USING THAT TEXAS SMART SCAPE MAKES SENSE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST REAL QUICK, IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE THAT SITE AND SO FOUNDATION PLANNING ON ALL SIDES, MINUS THE ONE ON THE REAR, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FACING ANY ANY OPEN SPACE OR ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

PARKING LOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL NINE, 9500FT² OF PARKING LOT AREA, LANDSCAPED AREA IN THE PARKING LOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

SO AGAIN, YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT AERIAL THERE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEY DIDN'T REALLY PROVIDE WHAT THEY PROVIDED, MAYBE TWO MEDIANS, REALLY TWO, THREE MEDIANS, IF YOU WANT TO COUNT, IF YOU WANT TO GET GENEROUS.

SO I THINK IN THE PARKING LOT AREA, WHILE 9500FT² SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY BREAK UP AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE VISUAL APPEALING ESTHETICS ALSO BREAK UP THE HEAT.

I MEAN, THAT PARKING, I WAS IN THAT PARKING LOT THIS MORNING TAKING THESE PICTURES. IT'S HOT.

AND SO I'M NOT SAYING 9500 IS GOING TO LOWER IT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP.

SO IT'S GOING TO AT LEAST LOOK BETTER. STREET BUFFER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL STREET BUFFER ON BOTH HARWOOD AND MARTIN.

RIGHT NOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

AGAIN, WHERE WE BENEFITED, THERE WAS THE FACT OF ONE, THEY HAD EXISTING TREES THEY WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE BECAUSE THEY.

THEY DID FALL UNDER OUR CURRENT TREE PRESERVATION.

SO THAT FORCED THEM INTO ONE THING. AND THEN THE DETENTION FORCED THEM INTO ANOTHER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT AS MUCH BUFFER THERE AS WE GOT.

AND THEN DISTRICT YARD AND I MENTIONED HERE, THEY WERE ALREADY GIVEN THAT EXCEPTION.

SO THEY'VE ALREADY. AND I FEEL LIKE IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS IN PLACE TODAY, THEY WOULD STILL BE GIVEN THAT EXTENSION EXCEPTION JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS FOR TOPOGRAPHY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME IDEAS.

DOES THAT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS NEW ORDINANCE WOULD DO VERSUS WHAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DID? YES. YEAH. ARE YOU GOOD WITH IT? DO YOU THINK IT'S TOO MUCH? DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT ENOUGH? WELL, SINCE WE'RE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THING, GO BACK A SLIDE.

IT THAT ONE PARKING LOT WISE, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IN THAT DESIGN AND THAT FOOTPRINT? WHERE WOULD YOU PUT 9500FT² OF VEGETATION? THAT IS AND IT'S FUNNY.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE REASON WHY MAURA IS HERE.

MAURA IS OUR CITY ENGINEER SITTING IN THE BACK PATIENTLY LISTENING TO ALL THIS.

WE, HER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY ACTUALLY, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES GIVE ME SOME CONCERN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME AREAS THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIT THAT SIZE BUILDING OR THAT DESIGN ON THE SLOT THAT IS PART OF IT.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SHOW THIS COMPARISON TO YOU. MAURA CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA, AND I WANT TO CAUTION IT BY SAYING IT HASN'T BEEN VETTED YET.

AND I WASN'T EVEN REALLY GOING TO BRING IT UP. BUT SINCE YOU BRING UP THAT QUESTION, IT'S A GOOD SEGUE. IF YOU ALL REMEMBER IN THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WE DID A FEE IN LIEU OF. MAURA HAS EXPERIENCED OTHER CITIES, AND SHE SAID SOMETHING WE CAN EXPERIENCE HERE.

MAYBE WE COULD DO A FEE. IF THEY CAN'T MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS, ESTABLISH SOME PERIMETERS IN THE ORDINANCE AND SAY, OKAY, IF YOU CAN'T DO THIS AND YOU'VE MET THIS, THEN YOU CAN DO A FEE IN LIEU OF AND IT GO TO BEAUTIFICATION.

AND THE CITY CAN USE THOSE DOLLARS FOR BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT IS AN OPTION. I HAVE NOT EXPLORED THAT OTHER THAN A FIVE MINUTE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD TODAY.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SEE.

BUT BOTTOM LINE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SOMETIMES IT'S GOING TO MEAN IF WE LIKE THESE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, IT MAY SOMETIMES MEAN THAT THEY NEED TO ADD MORE LAND TO MAKE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

IT'S NOT TO GO BACK OVER HISTORY, BUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WE WRESTLED WITH IT FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE WE WANTED THE BUILDING FACING MARTIN, NOT STUCK IN THE BACK. WE WANTED THE PARKING BEHIND AND THEY GAVE US ALL KINDS OF NOISE ABOUT, WELL, WE GOT TO BUILD THIS WALL TO PUT THE BUILDING IN, AND THE FOUNDATION IS GOING TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING, ALL THAT STUFF. WE TRIED REALLY HARD RIGHT TO VEGETATION WITH THIS. NOW THE ONLY TO THAT THOUGHT ABOUT THE FUND IS THAT THERE COULD BE A TWO

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AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO ADD SOME PARAMETERS TO THAT. WE CAN'T JUST LET THAT BE A BLANK CHECK. MAYBE THEY HAVE TO DO 50% OR 75% OF THE REQUIREMENT.

AND IF THEY CAN'T DO THE BALANCE, THEN I MEAN, SOMEWHERE THAT'S YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

DO NOTHING. OH, WE'LL WRITE YOU A CHECK. YOU'RE 100% CORRECT.

AND I DON'T WANT THAT EITHER SO [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT OF WAYS PLANT IN CITY PARKS.

I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF. I MEAN, THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TAKES THAT SAME, SIMILAR CONCEPT.

A LOT OF TIMES, AND I'VE BEEN KIND OF SURPRISED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T MIND JUST WRITING A CHECK FOR IT.

AND, AND THEN THAT PUTS THE CITY IN CHARGE OF DECIDING WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

BUT TO, TO THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT, I AGREE. I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY YOU CAN'T DO ANY LANDSCAPING ON A SITE, BUT I THINK IF WE BUILD IN THOSE PARAMETERS AND LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, THEN WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND, AND DOESN'T COMPLETELY KILL A SITE TOO, BECAUSE SOME SITES, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFILL SITES AND WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH THOSE.

YEAH. I COULD SEE SOME KIND OF PERCENTAGE OF REQUIRED SCAPING AND THEN YOU COULD, YOU COULD PAY OUT THE BALANCE IF YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT.

BUT LET'S TALK ON THIS SITE. THE ONLY PLACE I COULD SEE THAT THEY COULD ADD ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS WOULD BE MEDIANS.

THEY COULD ADD MORE MEDIANS. THEY COULD HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF LANDSCAPED MEDIANS.

NOW THEY ALSO NEEDED A REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PARKING TOO.

RIGHT. ALSO WE CAN AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE CAN LOOK AT THIS IN BUILDING DESIGN, MAYBE IF WE GIVE SOME CREDIT, IF WE, BECAUSE WE WANT THE BUILDINGS TO BE UP CLOSER TO THE STREET, MAYBE IF THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN GIVE THEM A CREDIT AND NOT HAVE TO REQUIRE SO MUCH PARKING OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE CAN TRY TO INCENTIVIZE IT THAT WAY TOO.

AND THAT REDUCES LESS PARKING, REDUCES THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE AREA REQUIREMENTS.

SO SO IT'S KIND OF A SNOWBALL EFFECT THAT WAY.

OKAY. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS. YES, SIR. I BASICALLY LIKE THIS CONCEPT OF THE ONE ABOUT THE THE DOLLARS AGAIN.

SUPPOSE THERE'S A, A WONDERFUL COMPANY THAT WANTS TO LOCATE IN BEDFORD ONE, THE STATE OF THE ART COMPANY.

AND THEY HAVE THIS BUILDING DESIGN THAT DOESN'T QUITE FIT.

AND IF MICHAEL DELL WANTS TO BUILD THE LATEST COMPUTER OFFICE BUILDING IN BEDFORD AND WE TURNED IT DOWN.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY UNFORTUNATE. SO I LIKE THE CONCEPT AGAIN, AS LONG AS IT CAN BE MODIFIED ALONG THE LINES THE CHAIRMAN HAS SUGGESTED WITH.

SO IT'S SO IT'S NOT JUST DOLLARS AS WELL. IT'S DOLLARS APPLIED TO SOME OTHER CRITERIA.

I LIKE THE IDEA. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT OUR LAST MEETING.

WE BUILT INTO THIS ORDINANCE AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PLAN.

SO THERE'S ALSO THAT TOO. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS.

WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THIS. AND THIS IS ONLY IT IF WE BUILD IN.

AND AGAIN I WANT TO SAY WE'VE GOT TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON OUR SIDE.

BUT WE KNOW OF CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FEE IN LIEU OF.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THEIRS AND TRY TO MODEL IT AFTER THEIRS.

BUT IF WE IF WE HAVE THAT OPTION, THEN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PLAN OPTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS. AND I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

YEAH. ONE DUMB QUESTION. SINCE YOU'RE PICKING ON THIS SITE, I KNOW I SHOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT.

YES, SIR. HOW MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY DID THEY CALCULATE INTO THE 42% WHERE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN MOVED THE OLD WOODEN STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 20 YEARS? YEAH, NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

BUT SO THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE LOTS. THEY PLOTTED THOSE INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

SO THEY SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT THE 42% IS JUST THIS LOT THAT THE BUILDING IS ON.

I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT WAS A SEPARATE LOT. YEAH.

IS THIS THE DEAD TREE LOT? YES. THE DEAD TREE EVERY DAY.

I KNOW. IT ANNOYS ME TOO.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE CHURCH. I'M SORRY.

SAY THAT AGAIN. BY THEM. BY THEM NOT HAVING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

THEN THEY GET RID OF. ALSO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF THE TREES.

SO REPLANTING THEM RIGHT IN THE NOW, WHAT I WOULD SAY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WITH THE DEAD TREE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE AN APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT DEAD TREE.

SO THEY DO HAVE TO REPLACE THAT ONE. BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE DOING AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PLAN OR THEY'RE DOING A FEE IN LIEU OF, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ON THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN. YEAH.

SO ALL RIGHT. GENERALLY SPEAKING, I BELIEVE. YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH.

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I WANTED TO DIVE INTO THE HANDOUT I GAVE YOU.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE THE MEETING, IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON LANDSCAPING? IT'S NOT YOUR BACKYARD.

THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT WE TOOK THE PICTURE. I'M SORRY THEY DID NOT PLANT ENOUGH TREES.

YOU'RE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NO, THAT LOOKS GOOD WITH THE REVISIONS.

I THINK THAT'S GOOD. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, I THINK THE REVISIONS ARE MINOR ENOUGH THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING AND GET IT ON FOR YOUR AGENDA FOR ADOPTION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. YOU ALL GOOD WITH THAT? YEP. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THROW ME ANY CURVE BALLS AT THE NEXT MEETING AFTER I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR NOTIFICATION FEES. WE'RE GOING TO. WE'RE GOING TO SEE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE APPROVED PLANT LIST BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. YES.

I MEAN, I DON'T MIND. I LIKE TREES. YEAH. OH, BY THE WAY.

MOST OF THEM LIVE IN MONROE. [INAUDIBLE] LIST YOU'RE GOING TO SEND US IS ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE.

YOU'RE GOING TO PULL A LIST FROM PLANT FROM THE PLANTS, FROM THE SEARCH.

I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT I, I THINK AS LONG AS WE WORD IT AS TO AS AMENDED, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REFERENCE AND DEVELOPERS CAN GO TO, I THINK WE WOULD.

YEAH. I THINK LET US LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE IF IT'S ALWAYS A WORKING LIST AND I'VE GOT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON MYSELF TO SEE HOW OFTEN THAT CHANGES OR WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD SAY, LET'S JUST REFERENCE IT IN THE ORDINANCE AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A DEDICATED LIST. BUT WE WOULD HAVE A LIST SO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. YES. I WILL ALWAYS MAKE SURE WITH IT.

YEAH. THAT CARRIES ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CITY ORDINANCES. REFERENCES.

RIGHT. STATE FIRE CODE OR WHATEVER. ABSOLUTELY.

REFERENCES IN EXISTING DOCUMENTS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S DIVE IN.

AND I KNOW YOU COULDN'T SEE THIS ON THE SCREEN, AND IT'S PROBABLY EVEN SMALL TO READ ON THE PAPER.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I TRIED TO GET IT ON ONE SHEET, BUT THIS IS THE SCHEDULE.

I PROMISED Y'ALL AT THE LAST MEETING I WOULD GIVE YOU ALL A SCHEDULE AS TO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED HERE.

AND SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS WE TOOK OUR EXISTING ESSENTIALLY TABLE OF CONTENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND EACH CHAPTER IS PRIORITIZED AS A WHAT TYPE OF PRIORITY LOW, HIGH OR MEDIUM AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK IT.

SO AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TIME FRAME FOR THOSE.

AND I'VE PUT TIME FRAMES ON THE HIGH AND MEDIUM ITEMS. SO JUST, KIDDING. I WASN'T PLANNING ON GOING INTO DETAIL ON THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THIS TO YOU AS A REFERENCE.

OKAY. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE FAIRLY ON TARGET WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING SECTION.

IT GOT TO Y'ALL IN JUNE. IT'LL GET TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST IS OUR GOAL.

AND THAT'S ASSUMING YOU'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO Y'ALL WILL KEEP ME ON TRACK AS LONG AS AS WE'RE GOOD THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT OVERALL? AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHAT OUR GOAL IS.

AND Y'ALL CAN KIND OF KEEP ME HONEST WITH THAT.

YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THESE DATES? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT HERE.

THERE'S A LOT HERE. YEAH. I NEED TO SLEEP. HE DOESN'T NEED TO SLEEP.

WE NEED TO FIND OUT. ROGER, ARE YOU IN TOWN FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES? FOR A LITTLE WHILE? YEAH. SO GONNA BE, LIKE, THREE MEETINGS A WEEK.

IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? NO, NO, I SO THE BEAUTY ABOUT THIS IS THAT KEEP IN MIND THE CONSULTANT GAVE US A DRAFT OF ALL OF THIS ALREADY, SO I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU ALL. I'M NOT WRITING ALL THIS.

I DIDN'T DO ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. I TOOK A BULK OF THAT FROM WHAT THE CONSULTANT GAVE US.

SO YES, WHILE IT DOES LOOK VERY AGGRESSIVE, 75% IS ALREADY DONE.

OKAY, SO WHICH WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, HOW ARE WE ON CHAPTER FOUR? DIDN'T WE WORK THAT DOWN PRETTY HARD? OR CHAPTER FOUR, THE ONE WE DON'T WANT TO DO? THAT'S THE ONE I DON'T WANT TO DO. BUT THAT'S JUST PERSONALLY ME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.

THE REASON IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE AND I'M JUST BEING COMPLETELY HONEST WITH Y'ALL. IT'S THE CONSULTANT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THE CONSULTANT DID THAT PRETTY MUCH PUSHED ME AWAY FROM, FROM THAT PROCESS. THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY CREATED NEW ZONING DISTRICTS.

SO THEY COMPLETELY DELETED ALL OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS YOU SEE IN CHAPTER FOUR AND CREATED NEW ONES, WHICH IS WHAT THE WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDED TO DO.

SO THEY WERE DOING WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAID TO DO. IT'S JUST AS WE GOT INTO THAT AND AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT CHAPTER THREE, THE PERMITTED USES, WE REALIZED THAT WAS GOING TO CAUSE A REQUIREMENT FOR A MASSIVE CITYWIDE NOTIFICATION.

EVERYBODY WOULD GET A NOTICE THAT WE WERE REZONING THEIR PROPERTY, THAT WE WERE CHANGING THEIR PERMITTED USES.

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IT'S NOT TO TRY TO GET AWAY FROM TRANSPARENCY.

IT'S JUST TO MAKE IT REASONABLE FOR US. AND I JUST FELT LIKE DOING THAT WAS NOT REASONABLE FOR US.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE ZONING DISTRICTS AS THEY ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO REDEFINE THEM.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME NAMES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CHAPTER THREE PERMITTED USES.

KEEP IT AS IT IS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO ADD SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO IT.

BUT THAT WAY WE'RE NOT CREATING NON-CONFORMING USES THAT WE HAVE TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY ABOUT.

SO TO, TO ANSWER BOTH OF YOUR QUESTIONS, THE EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MEET THESE THESE DEADLINES AND THESE GOALS. THOSE TWO GIVE ME THE BIGGEST HEARTBURN.

CHAPTER THREE AND CHAPTER FOUR GIVE ME THE BIGGEST HEARTBURN, BUT I'M COMMITTED TO GETTING IT DONE.

I KNOW Y'ALL ARE COMMITTED TO GETTING IT DONE. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION. JUST OH GO AHEAD ROGER. NO.

GO AHEAD. SO STRATEGICALLY, COULD WE AMEND THE MASTER PLAN AND THOSE NEW NAMES OF ZONES AND RIGHT IN THERE TO INCLUDE OUR 1500, OUR 9000 TO INCLUDE THE CURRENT ZONES AND SAY THIS THIS NEW MASTER PLAN NAME. ENCOMPASSES THESE EXISTING ZONING CODES AND NOT HAVE TO CHANGE THIS PART. MY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THIS PART BECAUSE THIS IS THE REGULATION. THIS IS THIS, I MEAN, THE THE MASTER PLAN, IT'S IMPORTANT. IT SETS THE GUIDE, BUT THIS IS WHAT REGULATES IT.

SO I'M GOING TO FLIP THAT AND JUST DO KIND OF ALMOST THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SAID.

I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE DEFINITIONS OF THESE DISTRICTS TO REFLECT THE LAND USE PATTERNS IN THE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT WAY WE'RE NOT CHANGING PEOPLE'S ZONING DISTRICT.

WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE DEFINITIONS OF IT. PERMITTED USES ARE GOING TO STAY THE SAME FOR 99% OF IT.

AND IT'S GOING TO THAT WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO REFERENCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE TWO DOCUMENTS TALK AT EACH OTHER.

IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER LOGISTICALLY TO DO TO FIX THE AMBIGUITIES BETWEEN THESE.

ABSOLUTELY. DEALING WITH FOR A WHILE. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. GOT IT. DID THE CONSULTANT KIND OF KNOW THIS OR HERE IT IS.

DID THE CONSULTANT KNOW? [INAUDIBLE] A LOT OF YEARS BEFORE SINCE I'VE WORKED WITH CONSULTANTS, BUT I'VE SEEN THEM AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE A LITTLE PIE IN THE SKY AND NOT.

THE CONSULTANT DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO.

THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON THE CONSULTANT WHATSOEVER.

IT IS REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS THAT WE, WHEN WE GOT THE DOCUMENT FROM THE CONSULTANT, WE THEN RECOGNIZED WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE AND IT WAS A EARTH SHATTERING FOR US OF, OKAY, NOW THIS WAS, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS.

AND TALKING TO LEGAL ON HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE WE MEET ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, TALKING TO JUST HOW WE WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK, AND BEING REALISTIC ON WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS HOW WE GOT TO THIS STAGE.

OKAY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THIS CHAPTER FOUR.

I KNOW WHY YOU HAVE YOUR CONCERNS. I THINK WE ALL DO.

WITH THE UPCOMING POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT OF NEW NEW PROPERTY.

THINKING OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THIS WOULD AFFECT HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT PROPERTY.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT WAS CALLED VILLAGE. NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE IS THE VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH. HOW WOULD THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS REALLY DOESN'T.

SO WHAT I ENVISION, WHAT I ENVISION THAT PROPERTY COMING IN, THEY HAVE NOT MADE APPLICATION FOR ANYTHING YET.

WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THAT, BUT WHAT I ENVISION THEM COMING IN AT IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WON'T COME IN AS ONE OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS. THEY WHAT I HOPE AND ENVISION IS THAT THEY LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEY LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER WE HAD EVEN A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

I HOPE THEY LOOK AT THAT AND THEY MODEL THEIR PUD AFTER THOSE THOSE STANDARDS THERE.

THANK YOU. BUT REALLY, THAT'LL BE THE DEVELOPER'S CHOICE, NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. NO, NO, BECAUSE IT'S STILL, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THEIR BID, BUT I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING TOWARD THAT. THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE SCHEDULE? REAL QUICK.

OKAY. SO LET ME GIVE YOU ONE LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR THE NIGHT.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL GO BECAUSE THIS DIDN'T TAKE AS LONG AS I THOUGHT IT MIGHT.

SO I PUT THIS SCHEDULE OUT FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, I WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT WHAT KIND OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS LOOK LIKE,

[01:05:07]

AND MY LAST DAY OFFICIALLY WITH THE CITY IS JULY 24TH.

HOWEVER, THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED ME TO STAY ON AND AS FROM A CONSULTANT STANDPOINT AND FINISH THIS PROJECT.

I MOVE WE REJECT THAT APPLICATION AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT IS FINE. I WILL PASS THOSE CONCERNS ALONG TO THE CITY MANAGER AND I UNDERSTAND.

SO I, YEAH, THAT THAT'S BEEN TRIED AND WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL THERE EITHER.

BUT I WANT TO SAY I, AND I TALKED TO THE CHAIRMAN EARLIER TODAY, I HAVE GREATLY APPRECIATED MY FIVE YEARS HERE.

IT HAS BEEN PROBABLY THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY CAREER BUT 24 YEARS IN CITY GOVERNMENT.

I'M READY FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO AFTER A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER WITH STAFF, IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT TIME AND YOU'RE BEING LEFT IN MORE CAPABLE HANDS THAN MYSELF.

MAURA, OUR CITY ENGINEER IS HERE TONIGHT. AND THE REASON SHE'S HERE BECAUSE SHE HAS A FASCINATING IDEAS WITH LANDSCAPE.

BUT ALSO SHE WILL BE NAMED. SHE HAS BEEN NAMED ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND SO SHE WILL BE LEADING YOU ALL THROUGH THE EVERYDAY ASPECTS OF THE PLANNING APPLICATIONS THAT YOU GET. I'LL JUST BE HELPING WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT SHE THROWS MY WAY.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. I YOU ALL HAVE BEEN, AGAIN, ONE OF THE BEST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS.

AND I DON'T SAY IT LIGHTLY. YOU ALL THE WORK YOU PUT IN TO EVERYTHING I BRING TO Y'ALL.

I KNOW THAT I CAN'T JUST STAND UP HERE AND AND READ THROUGH A POWERPOINT WITHOUT EXPECTING ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I GREATLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. IT MAKES MY LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE I KNOW IF I'VE MISSED SOMETHING, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO CATCH IT. AND SO THANK YOU.

I'M THANKFUL FOR COUNCIL. I'M THANKFUL FOR CITY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN THE BEST CITY I'VE EVER WORKED FOR IN MY, IN MY CAREER. I'M JUST READY FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND THAT'S SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HERE ON YOUR JULY 23RD MEETING TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL DO ADOPT THIS LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND WE'LL GET IT TO CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

WOW. SO SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE PROFESSIONALLY.

I MEAN, MANY OF US HAVE DEALT WITH CITY STAFF IN OTHER CITIES OR OTHER PLACES OVER THE YEARS.

AND YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREAT.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A RELATIVELY GOOD TIME DOING THIS, WHEN WE GET INTO ALL THE MINUTIA AND YOU PUT UP WITH IT, HAS BEEN GREAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CITY OFFICIALS THAT COME IN, THROW THE PAPERWORK ON THE DESK, SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. I NEED A VOTE.

ON TO THE NEXT THING. AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NICE ABOUT GIVING SUGGESTIONS, BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION? YOU KNOW, BUT WE'VE REALLY BEEN COLLECTIVELY THIS GROUP FOR SURE, A TEAM WITH YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US BE INVOLVED AND DO WHAT WE DO THAT SHE GOT TO SEE TONIGHT.

I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS A REGULAR THING OF WHAT WE DO.

THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND YOU'VE BEEN REAL GOOD ABOUT LETTING US DO IT.

AND I'VE BEEN HAPPY THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN BEEN THERE TO DO IT WITH ME.

SO THANK Y'ALL. NOW WE HAVE TO ASK HER, ARE YOU REALLY SURE YOU WANT TO SIGN ON TO THIS LITTLE GROUP UP HERE? I AM, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANTED TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.

AND I AM HONORED TO SERVE AS THE ACTING DIRECTOR.

MY GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING KEEPS MOVING SMOOTHLY AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS JUST KEEPS MOVING FORWARD.

SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME, CALL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO HELP. AND YES, I'M SURE YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

SURE. I AM A GRADUATE FROM UTA. I GRADUATED IN 2016.

I STARTED WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN A COUPLE OF YEARS INTO THAT REALIZED THAT IS NOT FOR ME.

AND SO I MOVED TO MUNICIPALITIES. I'VE WORKED IN MANSFIELD AND I'VE WORKED IN BURLESON IN BEDFORD IS MY THIRD STOP.

I HAVE TWO LITTLE KIDS, TWO LITTLE BOYS, A FIVE YEAR OLD AND A TWO YEAR OLD.

AND I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON MY MASTER AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS? IT HAS BEEN A BIG THING FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD TO HAVE A FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER ON STAFF.

AND I LOVE IT. AND I LOVE ALL THE CHANGES THAT I'M MAKING AND HOW EVERYBODY'S OPEN TO IT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, DARN.

VERY GOOD. AND WE HAD YOU TRAINED. LET ME GET YOU TO THE LAST SLIDE.

[01:10:06]

I MOVE WE ADJOURN TONIGHT ON JUNE 9TH AT 7:10 P.M..

I'LL SECOND. SECOND. EVERYBODY SECOND. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.