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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CALL THIS, UH, MEETING WORK SESSION OF THE BEDFORD CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.IT IS TUESDAY, APRIL 7TH, UH, 2026.
SO, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY FOR OUR WORK SESSION HERE.
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UM, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND STORM WATER UTILITY FEE.I GIVE YOU CITY ENGINEER AND MAR QUAD.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO TONIGHT WE'LL BE PROVIDING A FEW UPDATES, UH, RELATED TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING EFFORTS.
AS WE KNOW, THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE NOW, AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO FINALIZING IT.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF UPDATES ON THE PROCESS PROGRESS AND WHAT THE PLAN WILL ENTAIL.
WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STORM WATER FEE, AS THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S BE, THAT'S GONNA BE COMING HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WITH THAT, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANT, BETHANY, WITH FRIESEN NICHOLS.
SHE'S ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK WITH HER TEAM WHO ARE GONNA WALK US THROUGH THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND THE STORMWATER FEE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND PRESENT THE PRELIMINARY, UH, APPROACH FOR DEVELOPING OUR SIDEWALK, UH, MASTER PLAN.
I'LL BE HERE THROUGHOUT, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP BETHANY, HER TEAM AND MYSELF, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT, I'M GONNA KICK IT TO BETHANY.
HELLO, BETHANY FLYMAN WITH FRIES NICHOLS.
WE'VE GOT TREY SHANKS, JUSTIN OSWALD, AND CLAIRE.
SO WE'LL BE, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
SO, LIKE MARA SAID, INTERRUPT US, STOP ME.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, CONTENT HERE.
WE WANT WANT IT TO BE COLLABORATIVE, SO WANT, WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND.
WE WILL, WE'LL LOOK BACKWARDS AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE ENDED UP HERE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT WENT INTO DECIDING WHAT THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WOULD BE.
UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE, THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, AND THEN TREY'S GONNA SPEAK TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE AND HOW THAT INFORMS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SO LOOKING BACKWARDS, FOUR YEARS AGO, UM, WE MET WITH THE CITY AND WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA DO THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO ALLOCATE FUNDS AND EFFORT.
UM, SO WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
AND THE MAIN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WERE REALLY THE STAFF INTERVIEWS.
SO WE SAT DOWN WITH STAFF, UM, I THINK WE HAD THREE MEETINGS FOR LIKE FOUR HOURS.
IT WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS GATHERING ALL THE INFORMATION WE COULD TO UNDERSTAND, UM, PROCESSES, TOOLS THAT THEY USE, AND ANY GAPS WITHIN ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO DOING THAT AND PAIRING THAT WITH UNDERSTANDING ALL THE DATA AND LIKE I SAID, TOOLS, REVIEWING EVERYTHING.
UM, WE ALSO DID A, A CITYWIDE SCREENING ASSESSMENT.
SO RAIN ON MESH MODEL, UNDERSTANDING, UM, VERY HIGH LEVEL WHAT IS INUNDATED, UM, WHAT WHAT ROADWAYS ARE OVERTOPPED.
UM, SO GETTING AN IDEA OF WHAT EXACTLY FLOODS WITHIN THE CITY, AND THEN USING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY, UM, FOR THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
SO BASICALLY DEVELOPING THE SCOPE, UM, WITH BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE, WHERE ARE WE APPLYING THE RESOURCES TO MAXIMIZE VALUE FOR THE CITY.
SO THE RESULT OF THAT LOOKED LIKE THIS.
THESE WERE ALL THE TASKS THAT ARE PART OF THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND THE ALLOCATED FEE THAT WENT INTO THAT.
UM, AND SO THE, THE MAIN PIECE OF THIS IS THE GEOMORPHIC INVESTIGATION.
SO THAT'S MAINLY FOCUSED TOWARDS EROSION, UM, ON OUR, ON YOUR ESTABLISHED CHANNELS, AND THEN THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS THAT'S LOOKING AT WHAT'S FLOODING, UM, WHAT ROADS ARE OVER TOPPING, WHAT BUILDINGS ARE INUNDATED AND EVENTS.
UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE BIG CHUNK OF IT.
AND WE'LL GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT, UM, EACH OF THESE TASKS IN DETAIL HERE IN A SECOND, BUT THIS IS JUST THE SPLIT OF ALL OF THAT FROM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, DON BRANDON? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT OVER TOPPING MEANS.
OH, SO, RIGHT, SO LIKE, UM, GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO IF THERE'S A CREEK AND YOU'VE GOT A CULVERTS AND A ROADWAY CROSSING THE CREEK, IF THE WATER IN THAT CREEK OVERTOPS.
UM, OKAY, SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ALL OF THESE, AND I'LL, I'VE GOT A, A SIMPLE SCHEDULE HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO SHOW Y'ALL.
BUT WE ARE THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UM, ELEMENTS WITHIN THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
THE ONE THING THAT'S IN PROGRESS IS, UM, WE'VE SUBMITTED THE DRAFT DELIVERABLE TO THE CITY.
AND ONCE WE GET THAT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE AND UPDATE.
UM, SO QUICK SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THEN THIS IS A SCHEDULE, BUT IT'S MORE LOOKING BACKWARDS OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, FOUR YEARS AGO WE STARTED THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
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23, THAT SAME SUMMER WE CAME TO TO COUNCIL AND GOT THE EXECUTED CONTRACT FOR THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.UM, ABOUT A YEAR INTO IT, I SHOWED YOU GUYS THE, THE BUDGET ALLOCATION THERE, AND WE DID HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT BUDGET BASED OFF OF JUST THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
WE SAW THAT THERE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS BEDFORD'S BUILT OUT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ESTABLISHED, AND WE SAW THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE, UM, EROSION CONCERN THAN NECESSARILY FLOODING CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO WE, WE DETERMINED TO REALLOCATE THE BUDGET TOWARDS EROSION RATHER THAN, UM, INVESTIGATING FLOODING.
SO THAT HAPPENED ABOUT A YEAR INTO IT.
AND THEN ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THAT, WE SUBMITTED THE DRAFT PLAN.
SO TREY'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE AUDIT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TASK WITHIN THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
AND THEN HE WILL TALK, UM, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL UPDATE.
BUT THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL AUDIT.
UM, YEAH, JUST SPEAK BRIEFLY, JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE.
UM, AS BETHANY MENTIONED, ONE OF THE, UM, THINGS WE DID EARLY ON WAS JUST DO, UH, A REVIEW OF YOUR STORMWATER UTILITY BILLING.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REFRESHER, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS HAD A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY CITIES, OVER A HUNDRED CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE.
AND IT AUTHORIZES CITIES TO HAVE A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE THAT EACH DEVELOPED PROPERTY PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE, UM, BASED OFF OF THE RUNOFF IMPACT.
OKAY? SO THE MOUNTED STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT GOES TO THE SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TO BE MANAGED BY THE PIPE SYSTEMS AND THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, UM, THOSE REVENUES ARE DEDICATED ONLY TO THE PURPOSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, SMARTER MANAGEMENT.
OKAY? SO THIS FEE STRUCTURE IS WHAT YOUR EXISTING FEE STRUCTURE WAS, UH, FOR THAT.
SO IT CURRENTLY IS, UM, SO RESIDENTS WOULD PAY $5 A MONTH.
THERE WAS A SENIOR, UM, RATE OF $4 AND 50 CENTS A MONTH PER RESIDENCE.
UM, AND NON-RESIDENTIAL HAD A RATE OF $5 FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.
AND AS YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, COMPLICATED, UH, YOU KNOW, FORMULA THERE THAT, UM, THERE, THERE WASN'T, UM, A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING, UM, OF WHAT THE BASIS WAS FOR, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEE, UM, FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT, THE CONCEPTS OF IT ARE OKAY, AND PERVY HARRY BEING THE HARD SURFACE THAT RESULTS IN MORE RUNOFF.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU GO, OH, IF I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU GOTTA HAVE IT.
NOW HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND IS, UH, BY, YOU KNOW, WE DID A REVIEW OF THE BILLING RECORDS AND WHAT WE NOTICED AS HAPPENS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED FOR A, A NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT THERE START TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, INCONSISTENCIES AND SOME NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, CLEANUP.
SO, UM, WHAT WE IDENTIFIED, UM, WERE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO UPDATE THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA, THAT HARD SURFACE BASIS, UM, EVALUATION ACROSS THE, UM, CITY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE FOR YOU AS PART OF A SEPARATE INITIATIVE.
UM, AND THEN TO INCORPORATE THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AS BETHANY, YOU'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THEY COME WITH COSTS, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BEING A FUNDING MECHANISM TO ADDRESS STORMWATER NEEDS, WHAT IS THAT IMPACT TO THE FEE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE COSTS? THAT BE THINGS, WE'LL KIND OF HAVE THAT BALANCE.
I'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT AS SHE TALKS ABOUT THE PROJECTS TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT EFFECT WOULD BE, UM, ON YOUR RATES.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING WE'VE GOT IS, UM, A RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, UPDATE YOUR BUSINESS PROCESS FOR HOW YOU MANAGE YOUR STORMWATER UTILITY BILLING RECORDS GOING FORWARD.
SO YOU ARE ABLE TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE AND ACCURATE ON A GO FORWARD BASIS, UM, WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, EXISTING STAFF.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO BETHANY.
CLAIRE IS GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GONNA TAG TEAM, UM, MOST OF THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE FIRST PIECE OF THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WAS THIS FLOOD HISTORY DATABASE HERE, AND THE GOAL OF THIS DATABASE WAS TO, UM, CONSOLIDATE, UM, FLOOD DATA, FLOOD RELATED DATA INTO ONE CENTRALIZED AND ACCESSIBLE RESOURCE FOR THE CITY TO USE.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE LEFT OF THE SLIDE IS A SNIP OF OUR GIS PACKAGE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AS PART OF THIS EFFORT.
AND SO SOME OF THE LAYERS THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT WE COLLECTED ARE, UM, FEMA CLAIM DATA, UM, PAST WORK ORDER MAINTENANCE OR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDER DATA, UM, THE ESTIMATED ROADWAY LEVEL OF SERVICE AND PRELIMINARY MODEL RESULTS.
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PART OF THIS EFFORT, WE DID CREATE A TEMPLATE TO LOG FUTURE EVENTS TO PROVIDE A CONSISTENT WAY, UM, OF LOGGING THESE EVENTS.AND AT THE BOTTOM HERE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ASKED WHEN TALKING TO A RESIDENT ABOUT A CONCERN OR A COMPLAINT.
ANOTHER PIECE OF THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WAS THIS PIPE CONDITION ASSESSMENT HERE.
AND THE GOAL OF THIS ASSESSMENT WAS TO BASICALLY ESTIMATE THE RISK OF FAILURE WITHIN THE STORM WATER PIPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND, UM, BASED ON THE CONDITION AND CRITICALITY OF THOSE PIPES.
AND SO THE CONDITION WAS DETERMINED BASED ON AVAILABLE DATA SUCH AS THE AGE OR THE MATERIAL OF THE PIPE.
AND THEN THE CRITICALITY WAS, UM, MA MAINLY CONSIDERED THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE, SUCH AS, OOPS, SORRY, IF THE PIPE WAS ADJACENT TO CRITICAL FACILITIES OR MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS A, UM, RISK MAP FOR THE CITYWIDE, UM, CITYWIDE RISK MAP FOR THE STORM DRAIN INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
AND THIS CAN BE USED AS A PRIORITIZATION TOOL TO, UM, HELP SUPPORT ANY FUTURE, UH, MAINTENANCE NEEDS OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING.
THE NEXT YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, SABLE
UM, SO ACCORDING TO THIS MAP, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE THAT IS IN THE LOW RISK FIVE
SO WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW GREENS, A TON OF BLUES, AND ABOUT FIVE RED OR 10 RED, CORRECT.
SO, SO THOSE ARE THE RED ONES ARE ALL IN RISK OF FAILURE.
THEY HAVE A HIGH RISK, AND YOU, YOU ESTIMATE THIS BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY TO BUILDINGS OR LIKE IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THE HOSPITAL MM-HMM
THAT WOULD BE A, AN IMPORTANT CONSTRUCT.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, BUT WOULD RESIDENTIAL BE ALSO AN IMPORTANT YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UM, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
SO, SO YOU SEE A LOT OF MODERATE RISK.
UM, WE PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION IN HERE AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
AND SO WE DIDN'T, A LOT OF TIMES WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY THE CONDITION THAT THAT PIPE IS IN.
UM, BUT WHERE WE DID HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM PREVIOUS CCTV INFORMATION, UM, DIFFERENT RECORDS, WE, WE PUT EVERYTHING IN IN HERE THAT WE COULD.
NOW YOU'RE ASKING, UM, ARE WE JUST CALLING IT CRITICAL IF IT'S ADJACENT TO A HOSPITAL RATHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING? UM, I, WHEN WE CONSIDER, SO, SO MOST OF THE TIME YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE PIPES ARE WITHIN THE ROAD.
UM, AND SO IT'S, WHEN THAT IT'S, IT'S UNDER PARKING LOTS OR UNDER SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS TO, LIKE A FAILURE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CRITICAL, UM, IF THAT, IF THERE'S VEHICLES OR ANYTHING THAT'S, UM, SO YOU'VE OBSERVED THESE, UM, THESE PIPES THAT ARE RED, WE'VE NOT OBSERVED THEM.
THESE, THIS IS A TOOL FOR, UM, STAFF TO LOOK AT AND, UH, LEVERAGED FOR THEIR CCTV PROGRAM.
SO WHEN THEY SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOTTA GO, UM, SURVEY THE PIPES OUT HERE, WHERE DO WE FOCUS? THEY CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OKAY, WE THINK THESE ARE KIND OF THE HIGH PRIORITY.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE ON THE CONDITION OF THESE PIPES, BUT UH, THE, THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO INITIATE IS, WELL, LET'S GO ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE THEM.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SO, UM, SO THE AGE AND MATERIAL AND HISTORICAL FAILURE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GETTING YOUR, YOUR STATISTICS ON WHICH ONES ARE BAD AND WHICH ONES ARE GOOD IN, IN COMBINATION WITH THE, THAT OTHER COMPONENT OF IT.
SO IN THAT NOTE, THE GREEN ONES, LET'S JUST GO WITH THE ONES THAT ARE LOW RISK.
ARE THEY JUST BASICALLY ONES THAT WERE JUST INSTALLED? IS THAT HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE, ESSENTIALLY YEAH, IF THEY'RE LIKE BRAND NEW.
SO THEY, NEWEST ONES THEY, OKAY.
THE NEXT PIECE OF THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WAS THE GEOMORPHIC ASSESSMENT.
UM, LIKE BETHANY SAID, THIS WAS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AS THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A BIG NEED, UM, DURING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND FROM DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF.
UM, SO TO START THIS ASSESSMENT, OUR TEAM COMPLETED A WALKTHROUGH OF NINE MILES OF STREAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND COLLECTED DATA SUCH AS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE CONCRETE OR NATURAL CHANNEL, THE SEVERITY OF EROSION, UM, AS WELL AS THE CHANNEL DIMENSIONS THROUGH HERE.
UM, AND THEN THEY COMPLETED POST-PROCESSING, UM, AND ANALYSIS OF THIS
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DATA AND INCORPORATED FINDINGS FROM THE 2022 PILOT ASSESSMENT DONE FOR THE LITTLE BEAR CREEK WATERSHED UP HERE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF THE IMAGE THAT WE DID IN, UM, 2022.AND FROM THERE WE COMPILED A LIST OF APPROXIMATELY 89 AREAS OF CONCERN, EROSION RELATED CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ONCE THOSE AREAS OF CONCERN WERE IDENTIFIED, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK TO SCORE AND RANK THESE PROJECTS WITH THE HIGHEST SCORE BEING THE HIGHER PRIORITY AREA OF CONCERN.
SO EACH AREA WAS SCORED AGAINST THESE THREE WEIGHTED METRICS, THE FIRST BEING THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE, THE SECOND BEING THE SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM WITH UTILITIES HAVING A HIGHER WEIGHT DUE TO THEIR GREATER POTENTIAL IMPACT, AS WELL AS THE STREAM CONDITION.
UM, WHICH MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE SEVERITY OF THE EROSION OR INSTABILITY OF THE STREAM BANK.
SO THESE ARE THE TOP EIGHT RANKED EROSION PROBLEM AREAS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE SCORING FRAMEWORK.
THEY ALL HAVE AN EXPOSED SEWER AND THEY ALL, UM, HAPPEN TO FALL IN THE HURRICANE CREEK WATERSHED AS WELL.
AND THIS IMAGE HERE ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS AN IMAGE OF THAT NUMBER ONE RANKED PROBLEM AREA IN HURRICANE CREEK TRIP ONE WITH THE EXPOSED SEWER ON THAT RIGHT BANK, BANK ON THE LEFT HERE IS AN EXHIBIT THAT WE CREATED THAT HAD THE SPATIAL DISTRIBUTION OF ALL OF THE PROBLEM AREAS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SEE THE EXHIBIT
UM, BUT THIS SHOWED ALL OF THE SPATIAL DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE, UH, TOTAL LIST OF CONCERNS WITH THEIR ASSOCIATED RANK.
AND THEN WE HAD THE AREAS WHERE THE TOP EIGHT PROJECTS WERE FOR EACH OF THE EIGHT, UM, EROSION RELATED CONCERNS.
WE DEVELOPED A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL ALTERNATIVE SHOWN HERE ON THIS TABLE, AND TWO OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THE LIST BECAUSE WE RECENTLY DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE TRA LINES.
SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF A CONCEPTUAL ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS DEVELOPED.
THIS WAS DEVELOPED FOR THE NUMBER ONE RANKED PROBLEM AREA, UM, HURRICANE CREEK TRIP ONE, AND FOR EACH CONCEPTUAL ALTERNATIVE, UM, WE PROVIDED A IMPLEMENTABLE AND FEASIBLE SOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES THE EROSION AND PROTECTS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS AN ASSOCIATED OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, CON CONCEPT THAT CAN BE USED AS A PLANNING LEVEL, UH, COST ESTIMATE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT DECISIONS.
AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND CAPITAL PROJECT IDENTIFICATION.
YEAH, SO IN SUMMARY, THAT GEOMORPHIC ASSESSMENT, THAT WAS KIND OF THE BULK OF THAT, THAT MASTER PLAN EFFORT.
UM, AND SO WHAT YOU, WHAT THE CITY GOT FROM THAT WAS A DETAILED INVENTORY OF ALL THE STREAMS WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, AND YOU COULD SEE, I WISH THAT EXHIBIT WAS SHOWN 'CAUSE YOU COULD SEE ALL OF THE POINTS IN WHICH, UM, THERE WAS LIKE A DETAILED FIELD ANALYSIS AND DOCUMENTATION OF, SO THERE'S THOROUGH PHOTOS, THERE'S THOROUGH DOCUMENTATION.
SO NOW STAFF HAS AN INVENTORY OF EVERY, EVERY PROBLEM AREA THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, DOCUMENTED AND WITHIN THE PLAN.
UM, SO THAT'S A REALLY VALUABLE TOOL TO GO BACK AND POINT POINT TO THAT.
THE NEXT PIECE OF THIS WAS KIND OF THAT THE, THE, THE FLOOD PIECE OF IT RATHER THAN THE EROSION.
UM, SO THIS IS THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST SCOPE LANGUAGE, YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THAT, BUT, UM, WE LOOKED AT, AT THE FLOOD ASPECT OF IT AND HOW, HOW WE WENT ABOUT IT WAS WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, FLOOD HISTORY DATA BASE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE HOT SPOTS THAT ARE SHOWN.
UM, AND THIS IS FROM MODEL RESULTS, PREVIOUS FEMA CLAIMS, UM, UH, DIFFERENT WORK ORDERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND THE CITY RESPONDED TO.
AND SO THESE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY EVIDENCE-BASED PROBLEM AREAS.
AND SO WE INVESTIGATED AT A HIGH LEVEL LIKE, OKAY, DO WE WANNA GO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS FOR ANY OF THESE AREAS? AND ULTIMATELY WITH TALKING TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED CITY CONCURRENCE BEHIND WHATEVER WE WERE DOING WITH THIS.
UM, IT WAS DECIDED THAT, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY, WE WEREN'T SURE THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS SB ONE PROJECT.
WE KNEW THIS ONE WAS A A PROBLEM, SO WE KNEW WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS OUTSIDE OF THIS ONE.
WE SAID, WELL, LET'S, LET'S JUST PUT THAT MONEY INTO THE
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EROSION ISSUES THAT WE KNOW ARE, ARE FOR SURE A PROBLEM.SO SB ONE, UM, THIS ONE'S BEEN BEEN AROUND SINCE LIKE THE NINETIES.
UH, THIS IS JUST A LIST OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AS A PROBLEM.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN IN THE CITY.
UM, WE FREEZE NICHOLS IDENTIFIED IT SEPARATELY FROM THAT.
IT'S IN THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN, UM, AS A PROBLEM.
UM, IT'S GOT, UM, HISTORY OF OVERTOPPED ROADS, IT'S GOT FEMA CLAIMS, UM, AND IT WAS IN THE DMP BACK IN THE NINETIES.
SO, UM, THIS ONE'S DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.
IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A MINUTE HERE.
AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO EVALUATE THIS IN DETAIL AND COME UP WITH FEASIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT CAN THEN GO ROLL BACK INTO, UM, THE CIP LIST AND KIND OF BE THAT FIRST STEPPING STONE TO DESIGN.
SO IT'S LIKE, IF YOU KNOW THE SOLUTION, YOU CAN JUST ROLL STRAIGHT INTO DESIGN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT THERE AND FIGURE IT OUT.
SO WE WANTED TO GET THAT, THAT FIRST STEP DONE.
UM, AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE RED IS THE, THE PROPOSED FLOODPLAIN OR WHERE WATER WOULD BE IN A A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.
AND THE BLUE IS, UM, THE EXISTING, SO WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE AND YOU SEE LIKE A MINOR IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT.
BUT THE, THE MAIN POINT OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PREVENT, UM, OVER TOPPING.
AND SO THOSE ROADS, SHIRLEY CIRCLE, DONNA HUMACK, UM, IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT, THOSE ROADS OVERTOP SEVERAL FEET, UM, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DANGEROUS.
UM, THESE ROADS, DONNA OVERTOPS, UM, IN VERY FREQUENT EVENTS UP TO A FIVE YEAR EVENT.
SO WE EVALUATED THAT IN DETAIL, CAME UP WITH, UM, SOLUTIONS FOR THAT THAT CAN NOW CARRY THE HUNDRED YEAR.
AND THEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS A COST, A PLANNING COST.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THESE, THE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, UM, HERE AND WHAT WE DID FOR THE GEOMORPHIC ASSESSMENT THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S STEP ONE IN THE DESIGN.
SO IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE TOOL, LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THESE ANYWAY WHEN IT GOES TO DESIGN.
UM, NOW WE'VE JUST KIND OF DONE THIS AS PART OF THE, THE PLAN.
WE CAN LEVERAGE IT FOR, UM, PLANNING COSTS AND DEVELOPING THE CIP AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'VE GOT TWO SLIDES HERE, BUT SO THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST AND THERE WERE, THERE WERE FOUR PROJECTS HERE.
UM, I WON'T READ 'EM, BUT I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU THE SUMMARY HERE IN A SECOND.
THERE WERE FOUR PROJECTS THAT THE RED SQUARE SHOWS, THE SB ONE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THESE OTHER EROSION CONCERNS, UM, ON TOP OF THAT.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT TWO LISTS AND WE NEEDED A WAY TO PRIORITIZE THEM, UM, AGAINST EACH OTHER.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A TOOL, UH, WITH WEIGHTS AND CRITERIA TO, UM, FEED YOUR PROJECTS INTO IT AND THEN COME OUT WITH A PRIORITY LIST.
UM, SO THIS WAS DEVELOPED FOR THE CITY, IT'S GOT, UM, CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS, SO IF A NEW PROJECT OR ISSUE ARISES, THEY CAN FEED THIS BACK INTO IT AND DETERMINE WHERE IT FALLS WITHIN THE PRIORITY LIST.
AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT, HOW IT ALL SHAKES OUT.
UM, THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE CURRENTLY ON THE LIST THAT WERE CITY PRIORITY.
THESE WERE NEWLY IDENTIFIED, UM, PROJECT ISSUES THAT WE GOT CONCURRENCE WITH FROM THE CITY THAT YES, THEY, THEY'VE SEEN THAT THERE ARE ISSUES AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE RANKED THEM, UM, THEY'VE GOT COSTS TO 'EM, UPDATED COSTS TO 'EM, NOT, UM, THE COSTS THAT WERE THERE FOR 10 YEARS.
SO THESE ARE ALL UPDATED PLANNING COSTS, UM, VERY DRAFT KIND OF TIMELINE.
UH, I THINK IT'S STILL IN THE WORKS.
AND THEN THIS RED BOX HERE AT THE TOP, UM, IS ONE OF THE, IT, IT WAS RANKED ON THE, THE, THE EROSION LIST, BUT IT FELT TO THE TOP BECAUSE WE DETERMINED THE URGENCY OF IT WITH AN EXPOSED SEWER LINE.
UM, AND SO THIS IS WHAT THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE.
IT, IT, WE'VE GOTTA ADDRESS IT.
I THINK THERE'S, UM, WHERE'S MARA? THERE'S THE, THE CONTRACTS IN THE WORKS, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, WE'RE WAITING TO ADOPT THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS AND BRING IT INTO COUNCIL.
SO, UM, YEAH, THIS ONE'S GOT SOME URGENCY BEHIND IT.
WE'VE GOT AN EXPOSED SEWER LINE AND AS PART OF THE GEOMORPHIC ASSESSMENT, UM, WE KIND OF DID THAT FIRST STEP ALREADY.
UM, REALLY NOT EVEN KNOWING IT WAS GOING TO COUNCIL, UH, THIS YEAR.
SO WE'VE GOT AN ALTERNATIVE, WE'VE GOT AN APPROACH, YOU'VE GOT THE COSTS KIND OF LAID OUT.
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UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD STARTING POINT AND, AND I'M SURE Y'ALL WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT WITHIN THE COMING WEEKS.ANY I, I'LL STOP ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT ON THE TASKS SO FAR, THAT WAS BASICALLY LOOKS, LOOKS, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO, THAT'S OKAY.
NO, I THINK, I MEAN, I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE A LITTLE TOO, TOO THOROUGH.
IT'S NO, I, I THINK IT'S MUCH, MUCH NEEDED.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS BECAUSE, UH, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE AND WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM IN THE CITY FOR, FOR MANY YEARS, SO I'M GLAD THAT WE NOW HAVE, UH, YOU PROVIDED US A METRIC THAT WE CAN THEN GO AHEAD AND USE AND PLUG IN AND, UH, SORT OUT THESE PROJECTS, UH, GOING, GOING FORWARD AND, AND GIVING US A KIND OF AN IDEA OF, OF THE PRIORITY OF, OF WHAT WE NEED TO, WHAT WE NEED TO HANDLE.
UM, UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP, UH, DOCKS, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
SO I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE LONG TERM IDENTIFIED WAS THE, WE HAD THEM ON A LIST PRIMARILY FUNDED BY THE STORM WATER.
LIKE DID THESE EVER RISE TO LIKE OTHER ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF FUNDING? I'M SORRY, I'M SO SORRY.
OH NO, I WAS JUST ASKING FOR THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR LIST FOR A WHILE, THEY, THEY PRIMARILY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FROM THE STORM WATER FUNDING.
DID THEY EVER SHOW UP ON THE LIST FOR LIKE, OTHER BOND FUNDING? OKAY, SO WE PRIMARILY LIKE LOCALIZED THIS LIKE WITH OUR STORM WATER RATES, THAT, THAT WAS WHERE I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE IF THEY WERE SITTING, WE, YOU REMEMBER MAYOR, WE'VE HAD A LONG LIST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND SO, UM, YES.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL AND, UH, COUNCIL, WE MAY BE THERE WHEN, UH, THEY'VE ACTUALLY FILMED IT AND WE, I THINK THAT WAS THE SCHU MARK ONE WHEN RESIDENTS WERE COMING.
IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF JUST LIKE, LIKE IT JUST SOMETHING TERRIBLE.
JUST WANNA ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.
SO, UM, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE RANK AND DRIVE, STORM DRAIN REPLACEMENT, THIS IS ONLY THE SCOPE FOR THE STORM DRAIN, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT, IT WILL INCLUDE PAVING.
THE COST THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS JUST MAINLY FOR STORM DRAIN THAT EXCLUDE THE PAVING PORTION.
SO SOME OF THEM WILL BE COMBINED WITH PAVING ULTIMATELY, BUT WE ARE WAITING ON IMS DATA TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT AND FIGURE OUT IF THEY CAN MOVE CONCURRENTLY OR NOT.
BUT THESE ARE JUST SOLELY STORM DRAINED FOR THEM.
YEAH, I WAS JUST MAINLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM OUR, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST STANDPOINT.
ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY.
THINK WE'RE GOOD? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER.
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO TREY FOR STORM MODEL UTILITY FEE.
I'LL, I'LL TRY TO BE MERCIFULLY BRIEF.
I, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAYWELL, I, I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING.
YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PIPE AND THE MODERATE RISK JUST FOR CLARITY ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS BETHANY AND CLAIRE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GEOMORPHIC ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE CREEKS, THAT'S SOMETHING INHERENTLY 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE SURFACE, YOU CAN SEE IT EASIER.
IT DOESN'T TAKE, UH, IT'S NOT A LOT OF EFFORT TO DO, BUT PIPES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE TO INSPECT.
SO WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING FOR THE PIPES WAS WHAT WE CALL A DESKTOP ASSESSMENT.
AND, AND SO THE ACTION MIGHT BE IN MODERATE RISK DOESN'T INHERENTLY MEAN WE NEED TO GO REPLACE IT.
THE ACTION IS WHAT SHE WAS SAYING IS THE ACTION IS GO INSPECT THOSE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE SHOULD WE SPEND THAT MONEY ON INSPECTION SINCE IT IS MORE COSTLY, DO SUB-SERVICE INSPECTIONS.
BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT ABOUT GO REPLACE ALL THAT MODERATE RISK.
UM, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S COST, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT COSTS, UM, HERE.
SO COMING OUT OF THAT AUDIT REVIEW WE HAD DONE, UM, WE DID A SEPARATE INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY TO GO IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL IMPERVIOUS AREA.
AND YOU SEE THESE TWO, UM, EXAMPLE GRAPHICS OF, UM, IMPERVIOUS AREA FOR A RESIDENTS AND FOR A BUSINESS.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COLORED SHADED IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ROOFTOP PAVEMENT AND THE LIKE THAT WAS DONE FOR EVERY PROPERTY, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE, THE COST OF THEN ALLOCATED EQUITABLY BASED OFF THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL ASPECT IS INCORPORATING THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE COSTS THAT BETHANY IDENTIFIED INTO THE RATES.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A COUPLE EXAMPLES AND THEN THE FINAL STEP WILL BE TO, UM, UPDATE, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, THE RATE MODIFICATION, UM, UPDATE A NEW PROCESS TO MANAGE YOUR, TO MANAGE YOUR DATA IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY, UH, GOING FORWARD SO THE RATES STAY ACCURATE GOING FORWARD.
SO JUST SHOW A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE THAT ARE TIED TO THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL RATE AT AT $5.
UM, THIS APPROACH WOULD BE, UM, THAT IF YOU WERE TO ADDRESS ALL OF
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THAT, UM, IDENTIFIED CIP, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER A 10 YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, PERIOD THAT'D BE $9 AND 75 CENTS A MONTH PER RESIDENCE.AND THAT, THAT EQUITABLE ADJUSTMENT FOR NON RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.
WHAT THAT ALLOW FOR THOUGH IS FOR THE, UH, NEXT THREE YEARS OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UM, IS TO CASH FUND, UM, UM, YOUR PROJECTS, UM, AND THEN SHIFT FROM THERE.
NOW IF YOU DID OVER A 20 YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, NOTE INSTEAD THAT WOULD REDUCE THAT, UM, RATE TO $8 AND 50 CENTS.
UM, SO IT'S STILL AN INCREASE, BUT IT'S LESS THAN IT WOULD'VE, UM, BEEN 20 YEARS.
SAME WAY, UM, YOUR, YOU CAN, UH, CASH FUND WITH YOUR EXISTING FUND BALANCE AND THE LIKE, AND THE REVENUES, UM, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED.
AND SO, UM, SO AS WE IDENTIFY THESE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS THE LIST, UM, THAT, THAT BETHANY SHOWED YOU TO, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, ADDRESS ALL THOSE ISSUES.
AND THEN THE LAST PART IS THIS BILLING PROCESS.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT GETS TO IS JUST GETTING WITH, UM, CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY THAT AS THERE'S CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM, UM, THAT THE DATA IS MAINTAINED AND, UM, THAT PROPERTIES ARE ACCURATELY BILLED AND THE REV ACCURATE REVENUE IS COLLECTED.
MAY I PUT 10 DOCKETS? THANKS, MR. MAYOR.
SO WITH THIS EXAMPLE PROCESS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PROCESS, I THINK I, WHERE I HAD A GAP IS DID WE NOT HAVE A PROCESS BEFORE OR IT'S NOT UNCOMMON NOT TO HAVE A CURRENT DOCUMENTED PROCESS.
UM, AND THE REASON YOU SEE THESE COLOR COATINGS IS REALLY JUST WHAT WE TRY TO LIKE TO WORK WITH, UM, CITIES TO DO IS, UM, THERE'S OFTEN DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
THERE'S A GIS COMPONENT ENGINEERING COMPONENT, UTILITY BILLING COMPONENT, AND HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR ROLE WITHIN THEIR NORMAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND JUST, AND THAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS, UM, TO SEE WHERE YOUR PART IS AND WHERE IT HANDS OFF TO THE NEXT PERSON, UM, YOU KNOW, OR ROLE.
SO, UM, SO JUST TO THINK OF IT AS A REFRESH AS OPPOSED TO CREATING FROM SCRATCH.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS I, WHERE I WAS LOOKING FOR, IF YOU WE'RE TERMIN THIS A REFRESH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE VALUE ADD OR ENHANCEMENTS WERE, WHERE WE HAD GAPS BEFORE.
AND I, I'M GUESSING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS PLAYED A ROLE IN THE BILLING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST WE NEVER HAD IT MAPPED OUT IN THE WAY FOR SMOOTH TRANSITIONS.
AS STAFFING CHANGES HAPPEN, INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE GETS LOST AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ON YOUR SLIDE NUMBER NINE, YOU SAID THE KEY FINDING IS INCONSISTENT CHARGES FOR A SELECTION OF PROPERTIES.
WHAT WERE THE SELECTION OF PROPERTIES THAT YOU FOUND? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAY SOME IMPERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS, BUT YEAH.
ARE WE OVERCHARGING SOME PEOPLE AND UNDERCHARGING OTHERS OR WHAT'S THE, WHAT DID, HOW, WHAT WAS THE KEY FINDING I SHOULD SAY? YEAH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS JUST REP RELATIVE TO WHAT WE SAW FOR THE, THE MAPPED IMPERVIOUS AREAS.
WE DID A, A MAPPING THAT THE, THE CHARGE SOMETIMES WAS MORE THAN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
UM, AND ON, ON THE NET, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENCE THAT IT IMPACTED YOUR OVERALL REVENUES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON, UH, THING TO, YOU KNOW, OCCUR THAT AS WE'VE DONE THESE, YOU KNOW, EVALUATIONS.
UM, SO WOULD WE FIX THAT? THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, SO THAT'S THE, I MEAN THIS FIX, I MEAN WOULD, SO THIS WOULD FIX THAT POTENTIALLY OTHER THAN RAISING THE RATES, SOME PEOPLE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE A LOWER, SOME, SOME WOULD HAVE A LOWER RATE AND SOME WOULD HAVE, UH, AN INCREASED RATE EVEN IF THERE WASN'T A, A RATE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE CIP.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHICH PROPERTIES ARE THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I GUESS IT'S UP TO US NOW TO FIGURE OUT ARE WE, UH, FROM STAFF, IS IT, UH, LOOKING FOR ANSWERS FOR US FOR THE OPTIONS OF WHAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN? YES.
SO THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT OPTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FOR THE STORM WATER FEE AND IF YOU WANT ANY ADJUSTMENT TO THE CAPITAL PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, AND I CAN GO BACK TO THAT OR, OKAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY WERE PRESENTED TO OPTIONS TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE AND THO THOSE, THOSE ARE A SIGNIFICANT JUMP IN STORMWATER FEES.
SO, AND THEN YOU ALSO, UM, AMARA MENTIONED THAT THE TOP ONE IS ALREADY COMING TO COUNCIL.
SO WOULD THAT ALREADY BE ADDRESSED WITH
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EXISTING FUNDING OR, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE WE IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 NOW, CORRECT? YES.UM, SO WE ALREADY ADDRESSING WITH THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW, SO THE PROPOSED FEE WITH THAT PRIORITY ONE WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
I THINK IT REALLY, MY CONCERN IS LIKE, YES, ALL OF THESE ARE CONCERNS OR LIKE WE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM.
I JUST HAVE A PAUSE OF INCREASING THE FEES SO MUCH, EVEN IF WE DO THE 20 YEAR OPTION.
AND SO IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO DEFER
AND, AND THAT'S JUST REALLY THE CONCERN I'M ARTICULATING.
UM, IT IS, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT JUMP FROM, FROM WHERE WE ARE.
UM, IS THERE NOT A THIRD OPTION IN HERE WHERE WE CAN JUST TAKE SOME OF THESE AND I GUESS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I MEAN, HOW, THESE ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY CRITICAL, BUT, UM, HOW MUCH CAN WE, CAN WE TAKE HERE AND PUSH OUT? 'CAUSE THAT IS SIGNIFICANT IN SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT.
SO HOW, HOW MUCH CAN WE PUSH OUT UNTIL IT BECOMES DETRIMENTAL? OR IS THIS, IS THIS THE LIST THAT SAYING THIS IS DETRIMENTAL, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE TOMORROW? I BELIEVE MOST OF THEM ARE DETRIMENTAL BECAUSE, FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT WE MENTIONED, CIRCLE SHIRLEY, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
UM, SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT
WE NEVER DID A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN.
AND SO NOW WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE IT HAS FALLEN INTO OUR LAPS AND THAT THE BILL IS NOW DUE AND THAT WE HAVE TO FIX THINGS.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN FROM BEFORE, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 19 92, 92, 92.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WERE DONE WITH THAT MASTER PLAN.
SO THEY DID A MASTER PLAN AND DID NOTHING WITH IT.
THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, THAT THAT PLAN HAD SOME THAT GOT ROLLED OVER.
SOME OF THOSE HAVE ROLLED OVER INTO THIS, CORRECT.
SO WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE CONTINUING THAT, BUT THEY DIDN'T, BUT FROM THAT PLAN, NOT MUCH WAS DONE AT ALL.
THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM, FROM THE TIME PERIOD.
UM, SO, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HARD PILL FOR US TO SWALLOW, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AS A COUNCIL, UH, WHAT GOT US HERE.
AND, AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IT'S OUR PREDECESSOR'S FAULT.
THEY KICKED THE, KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, IT IS OUR, UM, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATORS THAT HAVE GOTTEN US TO THIS POINT.
AND NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS WHERE THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR OUR CITY.
UM, AND SO, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL'S APPETITE IS IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S, AND HONESTLY, YOU LOOK AT THE TWO RATES, IT'S NOT, YOU GO FROM EIGHT 50 FOR A RESIDENT RATE TO 9 75.
I MEAN, IT'S EITHER WAY YOU SLICE IT OR DICE IT, IT IS NOT GOOD WHETHER IT'S 20 OR TENURE.
SO I GUESS WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF 10? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF 20? UH, IS THE BENEFIT OF 10 THEN FREES UP MORE FOR MORE DRAINAGE ISSUES? DO WE FORESEE EVEN MORE ISSUES THAN THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED? CERTAINLY, I MEAN, JUST LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PAVING AND ALL OF THAT, HOW WE DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PROJECTS COME IN LATER ON AS WELL.
UH, WHAT ARE THE SURROUNDING CITIES? WHAT ARE THEIR RATES? I DO, IF YOU COULD SPEAK ON THAT.
THE SURROUNDING CITIES, YOU KNOW, THE, YOUR $5 RATE THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY AT IS COME IN THE LOWER HALF.
NOW RELATIVE TO OTHERS IN NORTH TEXAS, THE EIGHT 50 RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE AVERAGE.
UM, WHEREAS THE 9 75 WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AT THAT 75TH PERCENTILE.
THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY THAT ARE WELL ABOVE.
SO WHAT'S THE RATE FOR THE CITY OF HEARST AND THE CITY OF ULI? YEAH.
COUNCILMAN PARKER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOU TALK ABOUT IMPERVIOUS RATES OR IMPERVIOUS SURFACES THAT WE HAVE AND WE'RE CHARGING COMMERCIAL, WE'RE CHARGING RESIDENTIAL.
HAS ANYBODY BILLED NTTA OR ANY OF THE TXDOT, HAVE THEY CHIPPED IN FOR ANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY CREATE DOWNSTREAM WITH ALL OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT THEY'VE ADDED INTO THIS, THIS COMMUNITY IS, ARE THERE FUNDS OUT THERE? ARE THERE GRANTS THROUGH THEM? BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING A TON OF MONEY ON
AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND, AND YOU'VE GOT THE TWO, TWO CREEKS COMING TOGETHER DOWN AROUND SHIRLEY WAY THAT CREATES A TON DOWNSTREAM AND, AND MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE RIGHT, IT'S NOT GONNA STOP.
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IT'S JUST GONNA GET WORSE.UM, ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR THAT? THERE, THERE'S, WE DID NOT CONTEMPLATE CHARGING NTTA, YOU KNOW, OR TXDOT.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITIES, UM, THAT DO, UM, TECHNICALLY IT IS IMPERVIOUS AREA, UM, JUST LIKE YOUR STREETS OR IMPERVIOUS AREA.
IT'D BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT EXERCISE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO DO SO.
YEAH, WE CAN BE THE FIRST YEAH.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THAT, THE, THERE WOULD BE A LARGE LEGAL BATTLE OF COURSE THAT ENSUES AND THEN, AND AGAIN, NOTHING IS GETTING DONE ON OUR STORM WATER.
UM, COUNCILOR DON AND BRANDON.
I AM SO OUT OF THINGS I KNOW AT THIS MOMENT, BUT ALL WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.
WE'VE GOT TO, ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS THE, THE ONE OF THE SCREENS THAT SAID LOSS OF LIFE AND I THOUGHT OF KERRVILLE ON JULY 4TH AND WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
BUT WE, WE CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE NOT DO SOMETHING.
WE CANNOT BE THE ONES WHO KICK IT DOWN THE CAN.
IT, IT'S FALLEN UNDER OUR LAP.
I MEAN THAT'S JUST, WE'VE GOT TO DO IT.
OTHERWISE, WHY HIRE PEOPLE TO DO THESE ASSESSMENTS? THAT'S RIGHT.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE NEWS, WE'VE GOTTA ACT.
I CAN BE SWAYED ON WHICH WAY TO GO ON IT, BUT WE'VE GOTTA ACT.
YEAH, NO, I, I I, I'M, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT LOTS OF LIFE GOT MY ATTENTION OF LIFE.
I MEAN, YES, GOING TO THE HIGHEST RATE WOULD BE, UH, OF, UH, THAT FIRST OPTION.
THE TENURE DEBT, UM, WOULD PUT US OBVIOUSLY IN, LIKE I MENTIONED THIS IN UPPER 75 PERCENTILE, WE'RE A BUILT OUT CITY.
UM, AND SO THIS NEEDS, AND THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE FOR SO LONG AFTER THAT 10 YEAR MARK, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED AND THAT'S GONNA BE, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND SO, UM, SO THEN THAT WOULD FREE UP MORE DEBT AT THAT POINT TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DEBT CAPACITY IF LIKE, LET'S SAY WE DID THE 20 YEAR AT EIGHT 50, SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A PRIVATE QUESTION FOR KAREN.
WHAT'S THE DEBT CAPACITY LOOK LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? IS IT FEASIBLE? LIKE IN YOUR, IN YOUR OPINION, UH, LOOKING AT THE DEBT, LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN TAKE ON IN THE NEXT, LET'S JUST SAY, UM, 20 YEARS, IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH, IF WE START DISCOVERING MORE OF THESE, WHICH WE WILL MM-HMM
ARE GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL, IS THERE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AT OUR CURRENT DEBT RATE? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW DEBT? RIGHT.
THE NEW RATE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SAY WE DO OPTION TWO THE 20 YEAR.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA TAKE UP 20 YEARS TO GET THAT.
AND IN, IN THAT PROCESS WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DISCOVER ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE CORRECT, UM, DETRIMENTAL RISK OF FAILURE, ALL OF THAT.
DO WE HAVE THE DEBT CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE? SO WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE TWO CURRENT, OH, HELLO.
WE HAVE TWO DEBT ISSUANCES CURRENTLY IN THE STORMWATER FUND THAT WILL BE, UH, ROLLING OFF RELATIVELY, RELATIVELY SOON.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE FUND BALANCE AVAILABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE BRING IN OVER REVENUE, OVER EXPENDITURES GOES INTO THAT FUND BALANCE, WHICH ALLOWS US THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE CASH FUNDING OF PROJECTS.
SO IF WE ISSUE A 20 YEAR DEBT TO APPLY TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS, THAT ALLOWS US TO FREE UP THAT CASH FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS WELL.
SO IT DOES ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE FOR DEBT CAPACITY 20 YEARS FROM NOW THOUGH? WELL, OR WHEN THESE RUN OFF IN FIVE YEARS, THAT GIVES YOU SOME FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY AS WELL.
'CAUSE THAT THE ONE THAT FALLS OFF IN FIVE YEARS, THE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT ON THAT IS ABOUT 200,000 A YEAR.
SO THAT DOES KIND OF FREE UP SOME DEBT CAPACITY IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
NOW THE ONE THAT ROLLS OFF IN 38, THAT PRINCIPAL PAYMENT'S ABOUT 170,000.
COUNCIL FAR HAVE WE LOOKED AT A PROGRESSIVE RATE INSTEAD OF TAKING IT ALL AT ONCE? LOOKING AT IT AS AND TO SEE IF WE CAN DO IT INCREMENTALLY AND THEN STOP IF WE HAVE THE MONEY IN TO, TO NOT, TO NOT AFFECT THE, THE RATE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT OPTION, I MEAN THAT IS ALWAYS AN OPTION.
I MEAN, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT WITH OTHER RATES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DELAYS THE PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY.
UM, AND IT ALLOWS FOR FUTURE NEEDS.
I MEAN, IF YOU ISSUE, YOU KNOW, INCREMENTALLY INCREASE THAT AND THEN YOU CAN BACK THAT OFF IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION.
UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THOSE PROJECTS NEEDS, WHEN THOSE PROJECT NEEDS ARE.
THE CHALLENGE IS, IS NOBODY EVER BACKS IT OFF.
SO I MEAN IF, IF WE DID IT INCREMENTALLY
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AND THEN WE FREED UP OTHER DEBT MM-HMMWE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHARGE SO MUCH UP FRONT.
THAT IS AN OPTION THAT IS AN OPTION.
COUNCILLOR SMO, SO KAREN, WE'VE GOT 15 OR 10 PROJECTS MM-HMM
THAT ARE IMMEDIATE AND THEY'RE WORTH $15 MILLION BASICALLY.
SO, AND I ASSUME MARA, WE PROBABLY HAVE SEVERAL MORE THAT ARE JUST RIGHT ON THE CUSP POSSIBLY.
AND DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE IF WE'VE GOT 10 NOW, IS THERE 15 THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT? I, I DO NOT KNOW.
THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED NOW.
WE CAN JUST FIND STUFF THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD OR PUBLIC WORKS COULD IDENTIFY PIPES THAT WERE NOT HERE.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THESE ESTIMATED TOTAL COSTS DO NOT INCLUDE DESIGN.
THE DESIGN IS IN THE GREEN, UM, IS WHAT THEY ESTIMATED THE DESIGN TO BE.
THE BLUE IS THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION.
SO AGAIN, THINGS WILL FLUCTUATE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
THERE'S GONNA BE PROBABLY INFLATION THOUGH.
THOSE PRICES ARE JUST PRELIMINARY PRICES AND THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO INCREASE.
SO, UH, MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, MIGHT, IF WE DELAY IT ANY FURTHER, YOU KNOW, THE CITIES ARE GETTING PINCHED AS WE KNOW, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO BE PINCHED, UH, BY AUSTIN AND WAITING TO FREE UP ANYTHING.
UH, MY MY FEAR IS, IS THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT AND WE JUST DO IT INCREMENTALLY, IT'S GONNA DELAY THINGS AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE TURNOVERS IN COUNCIL AND WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT WAS DONE IN THE NINETIES WHERE THINGS JUST WEREN'T DONE AND WEREN'T DONE RIGHT.
UM, SO, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WELL, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY? OR DO WE WANT TO BE BOLD AND, AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITY KNOWING THAT WE ISSUED THE DEBT IT'S GONNA GET DONE? UM, AND, UH, AND, AND AGAIN, TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE, THESE NEEDED, THESE NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, UM, I'M, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, 20 YEAR, YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS, UH, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO, BUT, UM, EIGHT 50 AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING 9 75.
SO AT THAT, AT THAT POINT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT? SO, SO IT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO TAKE THE 10 YEAR DEBT, GET IT DONE, AND THEN FREE UP MORE, UH, AS AS IT GOES ON.
BECAUSE OUR CITY IS JUST AGING.
WE KNOW THIS, WE KNOW THIS FROM, FROM, FROM WHERE WE LIVE.
AND SO WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE MORE THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED WITHIN, WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO, UH, WE COULD GET MORE DONE.
MAYOR PRO TEM DAWKINS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ANSWER NOW, BUT CAN WE HAVE A TAKEAWAY FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THE, THE STORM RIDER RATE IS LIKE IN THE OVERALL PICTURE OF LIKE, THE RATE TO THE RESIDENTS? SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THIS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, LIKE WITH THE OVERALL TAX BILL, LIKE WHAT WOULD OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER PENNIES AND THINGS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE BUDGET CYCLE HAS JUST BEGUN.
BUT I, I WOULD BE CURIOUS OF THE $5 WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, HOW MUCH DOES THAT PLAY IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE? AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT, UM, JUST SO WE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, FOR FUTURE REFERENCE AND HOW IT ALL LOOKS.
COUNCILOR
UM, I JUST DON'T, AND THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.
YEAH, THAT'S, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, WE HATE TO BE IN THIS SITUATION.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT OUR PREDECESSORS HAVE PUT US IN.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO BE THE ONES, UH, THE BAD GUYS IF YOU WILL, TO, TO HAVE TO GET THIS DONE FOR OUR CITY.
UM, SO I'M, I'M, I'M THERE WITH YOU.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET A CUSTOMER, DON, TO BRANDON.
I THINK MAYBE IT'S A CHANCE FOR US TO BE THE GOOD GIRLS.
WE'LL BE THE GOOD GIRLS
WE'VE GOT TO, WE ALL CAMPAIGNED ON MAKING THE CITY SAFE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GOTTA BE HANDLED.
SO I'M HEARING FROM YOU AROUND THE 10 DOING ABOUT THE 10 YEAR OPTION ONE ISSUE, THE DEBT.
MAYOR, MAYOR, MAY I, MAY I JUMP IN? I THINK, UM, SO I WAS JUST KIND OF CHECKING WITH KAREN.
UM, I THINK THAT THE 20 YEAR RATE
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IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THE NORM AND THE STANDARD AND SOMETHING WE'RE USED TO, BUT I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT'S KIND OF A, A HYBRID HERE.YEAH, I MEAN WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS PROBABLY STILL, AND, AND THIS MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA DO, UM, BUT YOU MAY WANNA CONSIDER STILL DOING THE HIGHER RATE BUT STILL DOING YOUR 20 YEAR DEBT.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY FOR YOUR UTILITY DEBT YOU STILL DO A 20 YEAR, WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL.
BUT THEN THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO BUILD YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR AND BE ABLE TO CASH FUND THOSE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER FARGO'S UM, POINT THAT MIGHT ALLOW YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE TO MAYBE CONSIDER REDUCING THAT RATE IN THE FUTURE ONCE YOU TACKLE SOME OF THESE LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ALLOW YOU TO CASH FUND SOME PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
JUST THAT'S AN OPTION THAT I WAS THINKING BACK THERE IN MY HEAD.
I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
UM, THAT IS NOT A BAD OPTION IF, IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
IT, IT'LL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT ALLOWS US THE MOST FLEXIBILITY.
IT MIGHT GIVE YOU SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WHICH I THINK IS MUCH NEEDED.
FOR, BECAUSE THE ONE THING, OH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, 'CAUSE THE ONE THING I DID ALSO WANNA POINT OUT IS THAT WITH THE STORMWATER FUND, YOU KNOW, THEIR FUND BALANCE POLICY IS THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN A FUND BALANCE OF 90 DAYS CASH ON HAND.
AND SO WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE WANNA FUND SOME OF THESE CASH PROJECTS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT 90 DAYS CASH ON HAND.
AND SO, UM, WHEN BRADY AND HIS TEAM WILL PRESENT THOSE TO YOU, IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CASH FUND SOME PROJECTS, WE CAN DO THAT WITH AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING YOU WANNA ALLOW YOURSELF SOME FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, BUILD THAT FUND BALANCE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
IN THE EVENT YOU DO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS RIGHT AWAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO ISSUE THAT DEBT.
YOU WANNA BUILD YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR THOSE EMERGENCY PROJECTS.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ISSUE DEBT, IT TAKES TIME.
YOU HAVE TO NOTICE AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, NOT RAMIFICATIONS, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD, THE LEGAL PROCESS.
UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR FUND BALANCE, THEN YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMERGENCY PROJECTS IN A QUICKER, QUICKER MANNER.
SO THAT'S AN OPTION YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER.
COUNSEL, WOULD YOUR ATE ON THAT ONE? I'M SEEING SOME MY CARE.
AND I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR TOMORROW THOUGH.
ARE WE, ARE WE INCREASED THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE FOR INCREASE, FUTURE INCREASED FLOW? I MEAN IT'S NOT, OR IT'S NOT LIKE CURRENT NEEDS, WE'RE ALREADY OVER CAPACITY NOW, BUT IT'S GONNA BE ENOUGH THAT IT'S GONNA HANDLE ANY ADDITIONAL FLOW THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT SOME OF THESE AREAS WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL FLOW BECAUSE MOST OF THESE AREAS ARE BUILT OUT.
UM, IS THAT YEAH, WE ANY, I MEAN THE CITY'S BUILT OUT ESSENTIALLY, BUT ANY AREA THAT ISN'T, WE DID ASSUME, UM, ULTIMATE CONDITIONS.
SO WE ARE EVALUATING ANY POSSIBLE FUTURE CONDITIONS.
BUT ESSENTIALLY I THINK IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU SAY BUILT OUT, BUT REEVA, UH, UH, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT IS SURE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MM-HMM
INCREASED CAPACITY FOR THE FUTURE.
SO JUST TAKING OH YEAH, CUSTOMER STEVE'S YEAH, I DIDN'T, SO KAREN, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T QUITE GET ALL THAT.
UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING GO WITH THE HIGHER RATE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS YOU COULD STILL DO THIS HIGHER RATE BUT DO A 20 YEAR DEBT ISSUANCE.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT THAT WOULD DO WOULD, THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BUILD YOUR FUND BALANCE IN YOUR STORMWATER FUND SO THAT YOU CAN CASH FUND SOME PROJECTS OR CASH FUND SOME EMERGENCY PROJECTS, BUT YOU WOULD STILL DO YOUR 20 YEAR DEBT ISSUANCE, WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR YOUR UTILITY FUNDS.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG, BIG JUMP.
IT INCREASE, I MEAN IT IS A BIG JUMP AND IT'S ONLY, WE'RE ONLY RAISING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LOWER RATE AND THE HIGHER RATE.
WE'RE ONLY, BUT WE'RE ONLY, WELL FOR A TAXPAYER IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
IT WE'RE ONLY RAISING WHAT IT 400,000, HOW MUCH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE A YEAR, UH, IN THE, UM, WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN? YEAH, IT IS.
I DIDN'T LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND LET ME SEE.
YEAH, YOU'RE BRINGING IN, YEAH, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT IS A LOT.
SO WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN THIS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA EXTEND IT PAST THE THAT IS CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS ANOTHER OPTION FOR DISCUSSION AS AN SOMETHING TO THROW OUT THERE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE COULD GO AT THE LOWER RATE AND FIND THE 400,000 SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHETHER IT'S THAT IS ALSO AN OPTION.
WELL, AND EITHER WAY YOU WILL ALSO HAVE SOME FUND BALANCE TOO, BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR CIP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ALL THESE PROJECTS AT ONCE.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO STAIR STEP YOUR RATE INCREASE.
UM, BUT IT ALSO, YOU CAN'T BID A PROJECT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE FUNDS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY YOU WANNA ISSUE YOUR DEBT WHEN
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YOU'RE READY TO BID YOUR PROJECT.UM, SO THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT INVESTMENT TEAM AND THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB TOO, SO THEY CAN EARN INTEREST ON THOSE DEBT DOLLARS AS WELL.
AND THAT WILL ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT FUNDING FOR FUTURE.
NOW THEY CAN'T RAISE $400,000 VERY QUICKLY, BUT THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW YOU SOME INTEREST EARNINGS TO PUT TOWARDS THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, A LOT OF OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
WHAT ARE YOU FEELING ON THIS ONE QUESTION COUNCIL, SOMETHING QUICK.
SO KAREN, COULD WE, UM, THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF DOING A CEO FOR SOMETHING PARTIAL PART OF THIS.
UM, YEAH, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T DO ONE THAT YOU WOULD GO OUT TO YOUR VOTERS BECAUSE YOUR VOTERS, IF THEY VOTE IT, NO, IF THEY VOTE IT DOWN, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE IT.
I THINK IT'S THREE YEARS NOW BEFORE YOU TAKE IT BACK.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU NEVER WANNA TAKE A UTILITY DEBT ISSUANCE TO YOUR VOTERS UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IF THEY SAY NO, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT BACK FOR A WHILE AND YOUR UTILITIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DO.
UM, BUT YOU CAN DO A REVENUE BOND WHICH IS BASICALLY BASICALLY SAYING, I'M GONNA PAY IT BACK WITH MY REVENUE SOURCE THAT THE BOND IS BASICALLY DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OFF OF.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE CASH UPFRONT.
IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME THING AS YEAH.
THAT WE DID FOR OUR FIRE STATIONS AND OUR SENIOR CENTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO EASY ANSWER HERE.
I CAN SEE WHY WE DID A WORK SESSION TODAY.
UM, SO WE CAN ADJUST THOSE RATES AS NEEDED.
YEAH, THAT SOUNDS, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, I'M FOR YOU.
SEE, I'M, I'M FOR GETTING IT DONE AND, AND, AND GETTING IT DONE AND MAKING SURE WE GET IT, GET IT DONE RIGHT.
UM, AND SO, SO I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS MORE OF THE OPTION ONE, UH, MYSELF, BUT I, LIKE I SAID, IF, IF, IF COUNCIL'S APPETITE IS TO TAKE KIND OF STILL GET THIS DONE, BUT TAKE THE LOWER END OF IT FOR A 20, FOR THE 20 YEAR AT LEAST WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND DOING MORE THAN WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS DID FOR OPTIONS.
KAREN, CAN, CAN WE COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEEP DIVE ONTO KIND OF THE OPTIONS? AND AGAIN, LOOK AT THE TRUE DIFFERENCES, PULL THE WHO'S AFFECTED, GET, GET THE GOOD, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS ON THE RESIDENTS IMPACTED, COMMERCIAL IMPACTED, AND JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS ON JUST THESE TWO CHOICES.
AND THEN AGAIN, IF ANY OTHER CHOICES COME UP BETWEEN, I, I DON'T THINK THEY WILL, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY MIGHT, UM, CHECK WITH BOND COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW, JUST IS THERE A LITTLE MORE THAT WE CAN DO TO GET A LITTLE BIT DEEPER SO IT'S JUST A, A CLEARER PICTURE SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE REACHES A COMFORT LEVEL WHERE WE'RE GOING.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, AN ANALYSIS, UM, BASED ON THE STORMWATER PROGRAM AND CIP, THE NEXT STEP WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE TO GET OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR INVOLVED AND WORK WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL AS WELL.
UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT FITS WITHIN THAT SCOPE OF WORK AS WELL.
UM, SO, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE CAN 100%, UH, HAVE, UM, THEM TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AND SEE KIND OF WHAT, TO YOUR POINT, UH, MAYBE WHAT A WHAT, UH, BASED ON OUR CURRENT, UM, UTILITY STRICTURE FOR WATER WASTEWATER AND A TRASH, WHAT A UTILITY CUSTOMER WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THAT IMPACT WILL AFFECT FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL USER.
UM, AND WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PULL THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU.
UM, HOPEFULLY MAYBE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WANTING OR MAYBE THE NA LAST MEETING IN APRIL? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF NEXT WEEK IS REALLY TIGHT TURNAROUND.
IT IS THAT I WOULD IMAGINE PROBABLY THE NEXT, OKAY.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA DELAY, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE A FULL PICTURE SURE.
WITH OUR CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDED WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
SO WE WOULD PLAN ON THE NEXT, THE LAST MEETING IN APRIL, THEN LAST MEETING IN APRIL.
I'LL, THAT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
UH, SO NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA HERE IS PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY PLAN AND IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIANS.
NOT SAYING DRAIN, THIS WAS NOT FUN.
BUT, UM, I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN AND THE
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CONNECTIVITY EFFORTS AND WHAT STA STEPS WE'VE TAKEN SO FAR TO START BUILDING THIS OUT.THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN REALLY CENTERS AROUND SAFETY, UH, SAFE ROUTES TO, UH, TO WALK, WHETHER IT'S SCHOOL PARKS AND OTHER FACILITIES, IT ALSO SUPPORTS ACCESSIBILITY AND PROMOTES A MORE ACTIVE AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
SO WE APPROACHED THIS IN PHASES.
SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS TO START OUR SIDEWALK, UH, INVENTORY AND GAP ANALYSIS.
THEN WE STARTED MOVING TOWARD THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT AND THAT'S THROUGH IMS. SO WE'RE WAITING TO GET OUR DATA OF WHAT OUR OLD SIDEWALKS OR EXISTING LOOK LIKE.
BUT THROUGH THIS EFFORT WE ALSO WANTED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND UM, ULTIMATELY THIS WILL LEAD TO UPDATE THE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENTATION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS REALLY THE EARLY FOUNDATIONAL STEPS FOR THIS PLAN.
SO AS PART OF THIS EFFORT, WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR EXISTING SIDEWALK AND I KNOW THIS IS A LOT TO TAKE IN, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THIS BUBBLE THAT'S 800 FEET AWAY FROM ANY FACILITY.
THE FACILITIES INCLUDES ANY SCHOOLS, PARKS, OR CITY FACILITIES.
THE REASON FOR THE 800, BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS, UM, I GUESS WHEN SOMEBODY WALKS, UH, THEY CAN WALK TWO TO THREE MINUTES WITHIN THE 800 UM, FEET OF THOSE FACILITIES.
SO WE TRY TO FOCUS ON THESE BECAUSE MAINLY THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING SCHOOLS, OUR PARKS AND OUR FACILITIES AS WELL.
SO THIS WILL HELP US IDENTIFY WHERE THE GAPS ARE AND WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE THE HUGE IMPACTS ON OUR RESIDENTS.
SO A BIG COMPONENT OF THIS IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS INTERACTIVE MAP WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE A QR CODE OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LINK TO IT.
THEY JUST CLICK ON THE LINK AND THEN IT TAKES THEM TO OUR MAPS.
IT'S GONNA IDENTIFY ALL THE MAP OR THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN ANY MISSING SIDEWALK THAT WE HAVE, THEY CAN JUST GO IN THERE AND IDENTIFY IF IT'S A MISSING CURB, IF THERE'S A MISSING RAMP, IF THERE'S A MISSING SIDEWALK AND THEY CAN ADD AS MANY COMMENTS AS THEY WANT.
AND THEN WHOEVER GOES INTO THIS MAP AGAIN, CAN SEE THE COMMENTS ON THE SIDE AND CAN SEE THAT SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED THIS AREA.
THIS WAY THERE'S NOT 10 PEOPLE SPECIFYING THIS AREA.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO AN OPTION WHERE THEY CAN HAVE LIKE A LIKE BUTTON SO MULTIPLE PEOPLE CAN KEEP LIKING IT IF SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY MADE THAT COMMENT BEFORE.
SO WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A TIME PERIOD THAT WE COLLECT? OKAY, THAT IS KIND OF A QUESTION THAT I'M GETTING TO AT THE END TO SEE A DIRECTION AND HOW THE DURATION AND HOW LONG YOU WANT IT TO BE IN, UM, IF IT'S JUST ONLINE OR IF YOU WANT IT IN PERSON.
SO TO EVALUATE THE NEEDS, UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ACTIVITY AREA, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THE CITIZEN REQUEST THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT STREET CLASSIFICATION, AND THEN PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION.
UH, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE INCLUDING IMS DATA AS WELL.
SO OUR PRIORITY IS GONNA BE TO TAKE THE EXISTING AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO REPAIR THEM AND THEN INCORPORATE THE NEW SIDEWALKS OR WHAT'S MISSING AS WELL.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS COST ESTIMATE AS HOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.
IT'S THE CITY OF FATE OF TEXAS DID THIS STUDY IN ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
SO I TOOK THOSE PRICES AND KIND OF INFLATED IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE INCREASED.
UM, SO THE, THIS IS KIND OF THE PRELIMINARY PACE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO CONSTRUCT IT, BUT THEN THIS WAY WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE FUNDING IS GONNA COME FROM.
SO AT THIS STAGE, REALLY WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A DIRECTION ON THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO TAKE? UM, AND ANY INPUT OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY SEE ON THE NEXT PHASES OR NEXT STEPS OF THIS PLAN? OKAY.
SO WE WENT FROM VERY THOROUGH
MAYOR, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SECOND AHEAD TO KIND OF ABSORB PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT IS HERE'S, HERE'S A PLAN, WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
WE'D LIKE TO THROW THIS OUT ONLINE, UM, TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, BUT ALSO JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHECK I I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SIDEWALK DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WARRANTS A A PUBLIC MEETING OR IT MIGHT WARRANT WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE GROUPS THAT AREN'T GONNA GO ONLINE, IF WE HAVE A NIGHT AT THE LIBRARY WHERE THEY CAN COME AND MARK UP A MAP OR MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF SEE, WE, WE OBVIOUSLY WANNA HIT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUR DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY RECEIVES INFORMATION DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN A, A DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY ONLINE.
I WAS JUST THINKING WE, WE WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS WITH BE HEARD BEDFORD FOR THE ORDINANCE THING.
AND SO CAN WE LIKE USE THE SAME ENGAGEMENT MILESTONES WITH THAT WHERE WE DID HAVE A, A, A FORUM FOR PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING TOO, CAN WE LEVERAGE SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT CAME TO FOUR B? UH, AND I KNOW, UH, ANDREA, WE DID DISCUSS, UH, SEPARATELY THERE, THERE'S
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WHEN WE OPENED IT UP, BUT FOUR B, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD REQUESTED SIDEWALK UPDATES AND WE ALWAYS SAID NO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS.AND SO I THINK AS A FIRST STEP IS JUST TO GO AHEAD AND REPRESENT THOSE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT PEOPLE ALREADY ASKED FOR ON THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY REQUESTED THOSE.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PRE-POPULATE THAT.
SO AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY COMES AND WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MULTIPLE TIMES INDICATE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WANT, WELL WE CAN PRE-POPULATE WITH THOSE.
SO YEAH, SO AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THE ONLINE OPTION IS, IS GREAT AND IT GOES STRAIGHT INTO OUR SYSTEM AND WE CAN EASILY GATHER IT, BUT CERTAINLY HAPPEN TO, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO HAVE A, A NIGHT OR TWO WHERE FOLKS CAN COME, UM, AND KIND OF COMMENT AND PROVIDE THEIR INPUT AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY, THEY CAN HAVE AS WELL.
SOUNDS LIKE, I GUESS WE CAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE PLAN.
HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS? IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE COMING OUT OF THE STREET FUND.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE STREET FUND, BUT ONCE WE FIGURE OUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALK AND THE NEW ONES, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE.
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA TRY TO ALSO LOOK AT GRANTS IF THERE ARE ANY GRANTS AVAILABLE AS WELL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GONNA WANT ONE.
AND EVEN THE ONES THAT HAVE THEM ARE GONNA WANT NEW ONES.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO WHERE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED, WHAT THE COSTS ARE FIRST BEFORE IT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, RIGHT.
WITH CIP WHERE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE DRAINAGE COSTS WERE SO WE THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH A FUNDING.
WELL OF COURSE WE'RE ALL FOR IT, WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY, KEY ISSUE, ISSUE ON THAT ONE.
BUT YEAH, NO, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT, ESPECIALLY FROM SOUTH SIDE WHERE THEY HAVE NO SIDEWALKS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
SO, UM, AND THE ONLY WAY TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS IS JUST BIT BY BIT PIECE BY PIECE AND IT'S GONNA BE A VERY SLOW PROCESS TO, TO GET AS MANY UH, SIDEWALKS AS WE CAN.
SORRY, I HAVE A A LOT TO SAY WITH THIS.
UM, SO THE OTHER ENGAGEMENT PIECE, UM, I DID BRING THIS UP.
I, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF LEADERSHIP, HEB TO GO TO AUSTIN AND UM, TDOT WAS ONE OF THE PRESENTERS.
THEY DID SAY THAT THERE'S A FUNDING SOURCE FROM SAFETY THAT COVERS SIDEWALKS.
AND SO, UM, PART OF MY COHORT IS, UM, DR. JOHNSON WHO'S THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT.
SO I BROUGHT UP THE CONCERN OF CROSSING FROM CENTRAL JUNIOR HIGH ACROSS PIPELINE.
AND SO HE DOES WANNA BE ENGAGED FROM A SCHOOL DISTRICT STANDPOINT.
SO DEFINITELY ALL THE AREAS WE IDENTIFIED BY SCHOOLS, UH, HE DID WANT, UM, SOME PARTNERSHIP THERE.
AND THERE'S GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR, IF IT'S AROUND A SCHOOL, UM, YOU CAN GET, YOU CAN GET SOME GRANT MONEY FOR THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT'D BE VERY BENEFICIAL, BUT ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU STAFF FOR JUMPING IN.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS MUCH NEEDED.
I THINK YOU GUYS CAN HANDLE THE COMMUNICATION, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE, THAT IS, THAT IS OUR EXPERTISE.
SO I KNOW YOU'LL GET THE WORD OUT AND WE'LL GET ALL THAT, UH, COMPILED.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? ANY QUESTIONS? THAT IS ALL.
WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR MEETING, SO SINCE THIS IS NOT A COUNCIL SESSION, I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7 0 9.