Dec 11, 2025 Planning & Zoning Commission

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IT'S 6:00. CALL TO ORDER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY,

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COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN. ROGER GALLENSTEIN. PRESENT. DOROTHY CRAWFORD. PRESENT.

KATE BARLOW. PRESENT. TOM JACOBSEN. PRESENT. BRUCE EMERY, CHAIRMAN.

PRESENT. DUKE LOPER PRESENT. MIKE INGRAHAM. PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE ABSENCE TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE A REGULAR, REGULAR VOTING COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SERVE OUR FELLOW CITIZENS AND THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

GUIDE US, WATCH OVER US, HELP US TO MAKE WISE AND HELPFUL DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

AS WE GO INTO THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, LET US BE REMINDED OF THE REASON FOR THE SEASON AND GOODWILL AND PEACE TO ALL.

AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MERRY CHRISTMAS. YES.

MERRY CHRISTMAS. GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR.

OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER 13TH MEETING.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

OUR ACTION ITEM FOR THIS EVENING IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY,

[2. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation to City Council regarding a rezoning of the property described as Whisperwood Center Addition Block 1 Lot 1R from Heavy Commercial / Master Highway Corridor to Heavy Commercial / Master Highway Corridor / Specific Use Permit – Private Business & Professional Schools. The property is generally located south of Harwood Road, to the east of State Highway 121, and commonly known as 3516 Harwood Road Suite 116. (SUP-25-14) ]

PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HARWOOD ROAD, TO THE EAST OF STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 3516 HARWOOD ROAD, SUITE 116. THIS IS CASE SUP-25-14. STAFF. GOOD EVENING LONG TIME NO SEE.

YES. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A DRIVING SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD FALL UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL OR PRIVATE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL SCHOOLS CLASSIFICATION WITHIN THE PERMITTED USE CHART.

THIS IS THE LOCATION. IT IS EAST OF 121 SOUTH OF HARWOOD ROAD.

I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE ALL JUST A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SHOPPING CENTER. THE BACKGROUND OF IT IS IT IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO OPERATE, OPEN AND OPERATE A DRIVING SCHOOL WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 1050 SQUARE FOOT SUITE WITHIN THE EXISTING RETAIL STRIP CENTER IN THAT AREA.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 87 AND CONTAINS TWO BUILDINGS, AN OFFICE SHOWROOM AND A RETAIL STRIP BUILDING, AND THE RETAIL STRIP BUILDING IS CURRENTLY SUBDIVIDED INTO SEVERAL SUITES WITH SEVERAL USES WITHIN THAT.

ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION, THERE'S BE ONE EMPLOYEE ON SITE, WITH OPERATING HOURS BEING MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 9:00 A.M.

TO 7:00 P.M. COURSES WILL BE OFFERED THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, APPROXIMATELY 4 TO 6 STUDENTS, BOTH CLASSROOM AND DRIVING INSTRUCTION, WITH THAT AND ONE VEHICLE ON SITE. THE PROPOSED SECTION OF THE PARKING LOT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR PARALLEL PARKING, AND WE HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT OUTLINES WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED.

THE ZONING MAP SHOWS IT TO BE A HEAVY COMMERCIAL, HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT IT IS IN THE OVERLAY.

SO WE HAVE THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT. ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTHWEST, COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH, AND A MIX OF HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND PUD FOR TOWNHOMES TO THE EAST.

FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL.

I HAVE THE BOX IN RED UP THERE AT THE ON THE EAST PORTION OF IT, AND WITH THE PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

WE HAVE MINOR LEVEL DENSITY SCALE INCLUDES A MIX OF DINING, ENTERTAINMENT WITH SOCIAL GATHERING SPACES AND POSSIBLY LIMITED RETAIL SHOPPING HANGOUT CONCEPT. PARKING IS A MIX OF ON SITE, OFF SITE.

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WE ALL KNOW THAT NOT ALWAYS APPLICABLE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S WHAT'S TRUE TO THAT SITE.

SITE PHOTOS. HERE'S A VIEW OF THE FRONT OF THE LOCATION.

HERE'S FACING WEST, FACING EAST. AND THAT BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE IS THE LOCATION OF THE PARALLEL PROPOSED PARALLEL PARKING SPACES WHICH WILL BE CONVERTED FOR PARALLEL PARKING. AND I HAVE A CLEAR VIEW RIGHT HERE.

SO THE PARALLEL PARKING IS GOING TO BE TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY.

IT'S GOING TO BE AWAY FROM MOST OF THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING ON TO THE SITE.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WILL BE THAT IF THIS WERE TO GET APPROVED, THEY'LL HAVE TO RESTRIPE AND CORDON OFF THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY FOR PARALLEL PARKING.

QUICK SIDE ANALYSIS OF NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES YIELDED THAT THE LOSS OF ABOUT 3 OR 4 SPACES WOULD NOT BE A DETRIMENT TO THE SITE.

31 PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED. WE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES TO THE NOTIFICATION.

STAFF FINDINGS. SO THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AND AS I STATED, THE REMOVAL OF FOUR PARKING SPACES FOR THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE SITE WOULD REALLY BE THE REMOVAL OF THE FOUR PARKING SPACES, WHICH AGAIN, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SPACES AT PEAK CAPACITY FOR EVERY USE ON THAT SITE, WOULDN'T WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. THE PROPERTY FALLS WITHIN THE PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT TYPICAL OF ENTERTAINMENT OR DINING.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT BELIEVED THAT THE USE WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE STRIP CENTER EITHER. AND LASTLY, CONDITIONS CAN BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY IF THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT CERTAIN CONDITIONS MAY MAY ADDRESS LAND USE COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS.

OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ENRIQUE, I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO RESTRIPE IT, BUT.

AND THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING OVER THAT WAY. YES. BUT BUT IS IT GOING TO BE KNOWN? OR IS IT SOME KIND OF DESIGNATION THAT SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PARK THERE THAT DAY.

SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE STANDARDS AS TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO STRIVE.

THAT'S NOT REALLY INCLUDED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT'S MORE SO FOR THE APPLICANT TO DESIGNATE THE SIZE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO THEM.

PRESUMING THAT THEY'LL MARK IT OFF AND HAVE SOME SORT OF DESIGNATION, WE'VE SEEN OTHER DRIVING SCHOOLS ELSEWHERE WHERE THEY'LL PUT CONES AND STUFF SO. SOMEONE COULD PROBABLY PARK THERE, BUT SEEING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE VISIBLY MARKED, I DOUBT THEY WILL.

AND PLUS, IT'S FAR AWAY FROM MOST OF THE ENTRANCES THAT I DOUBT ANYBODY WILL GO THERE.

OKAY YEAH. SOMEBODY JUST DECIDES TO PARK THERE ONE DAY AND AND THEY DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO DO PARALLEL PARKING THEN THAT.

YEAH I MEAN, IT WOULD LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE LARGELY UP TO THE PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY OWNER MANAGEMENT TO BE ABLE TO CORDON THAT OFF AND HAVE THAT MARKED.

OKAY.

JUST ONE OBSERVATION. I DROVE BY THERE TODAY.

IT IS REALLY REMOTE. YOU DO HAVE TO SEARCH IT OUT.

SO I MY CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING THERE ARE RELIEVED BY THE FACT THAT IT'S REMOTE TO ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT PARKING LOT SO.

YEAH, ONE OF THE EARLIER ITERATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN HAD PARALLEL PARKING AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

AND SO A COUPLE OF REVISIONS AND ITERATIONS BACK AND FORTH WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, THE APPLICANT YIELDED THIS KIND OF THE LESS PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. SO THIS IS.

I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL CONCERNS. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BY THE WAY.

ALL RIGHT WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

SO I'M OPENING THE SCHOOL HERE. IF YOU GUYS GIVING THE PERMISSION.

AND THEN WE DO HERE TEEN DRIVING SCHOOL. ALSO ADULT DRIVING SCHOOL WE DO THE CLASSROOM CLASS AND WE TAKING TO THE ROAD TEST HERE I'M EXAMINER ALSO.

DO YOU HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE AREA? NO NOT THIS AREA.

OKAY. OKAY I HAVE A DRIVING SCHOOL IN IRVING. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YES. EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS AT COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANTS? COMMISSIONER BARLOW.

ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE ON SITE. SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE PRACTICE DRIVING WITH HIM,

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WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO SEE US AND SENDING IN YOUR APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OH, I GUESS BEFORE I DID THAT, IT WAS.

ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? OKAY, IT'S 6:10 WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY DISCUSSION OR OR THOUGHTS? OH, ENRIQUE, IS THERE SOME ANYWHERE IN THE APPLICATION THAT THAT INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE THE PARKING LOT RESTRIPING? AND WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT OR? I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ALTERED IN THE PARKING LOT.

DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOW THAT? YEAH. WITH ANY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION, WE GET THE PROPERTY OWNER AUTHORIZATION AND ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY MANAGER OWNER, WHOEVER WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT SENT THE ITERATION. SO WE'VE ALL BEEN IN COMMUNICATION SO THEY'RE AWARE IT CAME IN THE EMAILS AFTERWARDS. OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONERS? I MOVE WE APPROVE SUP-25-14 DRIVING SCHOOL, HARWOOD.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES 7 TO 0.

WELCOME TO BEDFORD. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU NOW WE GET TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT HOMEWORK PROJECT AND THE REST OF THE PAPERWORK ON OUR DESK.

[3. Receive an update on the Zoning Ordinance Re-Write, discuss, and provide comments accordingly. ]

OH, IF YOU FOLKS DON'T WANT TO STAY FOR THE REST OF OUR TALK AND IT'S OKAY, WE WON'T.

WE WON'T MIND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE RESULTS OF THE FLASHVOTE? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GET A COPY OF THAT, SO I WANTED EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT THAT.

BUT REAL QUICK, WE'RE. WE DIDN'T READ THE AGENDA ITEM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE'RE TALKING FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD ASPECT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, AND I'LL JUST JUMP INTO IT NOW.

SO YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON YOUR IN FRONT OF YOUR DESK OR IN FRONT OF YOUR SEATS TONIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY, ONE IS THE FLASHVOTE THAT THE CHAIRMAN ALLUDED TO.

WE DO A COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PUTTING OUT SURVEYS AND THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT WENT OUT TO, I BELIEVE, 500 AND SOMETHING PEOPLE.

AND WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD RESPONSE BACK. AND YOU'LL SEE WE ASK CERTAIN QUESTIONS REGARDING ZONING, WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT ZONING AND ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF QUESTIONS.

AND SO THE RESULTS WERE THERE. SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO HAVE THAT.

THAT'S PART OF OUR PUBLIC INPUT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE RE-WRITE PROCESS.

NOTHING YOU NEED TO DO WITH THAT. THE SECOND DOCUMENT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT YOU GET TO LOOK AT AND, AND STUDY UP ON. AND THAT'S YOUR YOUR HOLIDAY HOMEWORK, I GUESS.

THAT IS MODULE 2 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND REWRITING IT, WE'VE DIVIDED IT UP INTO MODULE 1, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT AND PROVIDED US COMMENTS ON.

NOW YOU GET TO GO TO MODULE 2. IT'S ROUGHLY 200 PAGES.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER 200 PAGES. MOST OF YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED A THREE RING BINDER THAT YOU CAN EASILY PUT THAT INTO.

IF YOU HAVE NOT, LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL GET YOU A THREE RING BINDER.

I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO NEEDED WHAT, SO JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU.

BUT THIS I THINK THIS SECTION, THIS MODULE IS THE IS THE FUN SECTION TO READ.

IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH WE'VE ALL FOCUSED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL TALKED A LOT ABOUT.

AND SO WE'RE FINALLY HERE NOW. WE'RE GETTING TO SEE SOME REGULATIONS ON THAT.

THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BODIES. SO CHAPTER 4 IS DESIGN STANDARDS, HAS BUILDING DESIGN, PARKING LOT REGULATIONS, TREE PRESERVATION, WHICH I'LL TELL YOU, WE DID TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

I THINK BACK IN 2023. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO YOU SHOULD BE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. OUTDOOR LIGHTING AND OUTDOOR STORAGE AND DISPLAY REGULATIONS ARE ALL IN CHAPTER 4.

CHAPTER 5 IS DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BODIES THAT ESTABLISHES WHO DOES WHAT WHO HAS AUTHORITY TO APPROVE WHAT DIFFERENT

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SO ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS, HOW DO THEY GO THROUGH THOSE PROCEDURES AND WHAT WHAT DO WE LOOK AT DURING THAT PROCESS? CHAPTER 7. NON-CONFORMITIES. THOSE ARE ALL THESE USES ARE LOTS THAT MAY NOT CONFORM WITH THE NEW STANDARDS.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT THOSE? SO AND THEN CHAPTER 8 IS ENFORCEMENT.

WHEN WE HAVE VIOLATIONS, HOW DO WE HANDLE THOSE AND THEN PENALTIES.

AND THEN CHAPTER NINE ARE JUST DEFINITIONS AND WORD USAGE TYPE REGULATIONS AND THEN APPENDIX A, I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE OR MOST OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY EXCITED ABOUT. I KNOW MR. GALLENSTEIN IS GOING TO REALLY DIVE INTO THE APPROVED AND PROHIBITED PLANTING LIST.

THAT'S USUALLY A HOT TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAVE LANDSCAPE PLANS COME BEFORE YOU.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACTUAL LIST OF PLANTS THAT CAN AND CANNOT BE PLANTED WITHIN THE CITY, SO I EXPECT US TO HAVE FUN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE [LAUGHTER].

A QUESTION ON THAT, OF COURSE. WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO EITHER TALK TO OR VISIT WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I'M SEEING WHERE THEY'VE GENERATED SOME LISTS AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH PLANTING TREES IN TOWN, TRYING TO DESIGNATE SPECIFIC TREES HERE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER SEE THEIR INFORMATION OR VISIT WITH THEM OR SOMETHING? THE THE LAST COUPLE LITTLE THINGS I SAW OUT OF THAT, IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY COINCIDE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS I REMEMBER ABOUT HOW WE DID THE TREE ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. SO IF THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A BUNCH OF RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, JUST AS WE GET DOWN THE ROAD TO THAT, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A BUNCH OF WORK ON, PARTICULARLY WITH THE ENTRANCEWAYS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE PROPER PLANTING AND NATIVE PLANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO WE DON'T DO SOMETHING HERE THAT ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH SOMETHING.

SURE. ELSE THAT'S GOING ON. I HAD NOT ENVISIONED ANY TYPE OF JOINT MEETING WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION BOARD ON THIS.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE ARE IN JANUARY THE 14TH AND 15TH.

WE'RE HAVING SOME DETAILED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MODULE 2.

SO WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN REACH OUT TO THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE THEY KNOW THEY'RE INVITED TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

OKAY LOOK AT IT AND GIVE ANY BRIEFINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO.

OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD COORDINATION.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THAT. IT'S A FAIRLY NEW LIST THEY'VE JUST COME UP WITH WITH THE ENTRYWAYS AND SOME OTHER THINGS ENTRYWAY PLANTINGS. I MEAN THIS IS OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A PROHIBITED ITEM THAT WE JUST PUT IN OUR ENTRYWAYS.

SO PERFECT COORDINATION. OKAY. SO. WES, IF I CAN FLIP BACK JUST TO THE FLASH PHOTO, I'M ASSUMING YOU DROVE THIS WITH MOLLY'S TEAM.

SHE JUST I THINK THAT MAY BE THE SURPRISE IS THAT I WAS I WAS EXPECTING.

WHEN YOU PUT THINGS OUT, YOU ALWAYS THINK THAT WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT WE WOULD LEARN. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. SO THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONE UNEXPECTED THING, BECAUSE IT'S A NICE, UNEXPECTED THING, BUT IT'S GOOD. BUT YEAH. SO I NOTHING ELSE THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME OTHER THAN JUST THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THE OVERALL ZONING REGULATIONS IN GENERAL. I MEAN WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MOLLY, AFTER WE GOT THE RESPONSES BACK.

AND TO THE CITY MANAGER. USUALLY ZONING. AND Y'ALL KNOW Y'ALL HAVE READ AT LEAST MODULE 1 NOW AND YOU REALIZE THAT IT'S REALLY DRY.

IT'S NOT FUN. IT'S JUST REGULATION. MOST PEOPLE DON'T FIND THAT INTERESTING, BUT THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT BACK WERE THE OPPOSITE.

SO THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THAT SHOWS A VESTED INTEREST.

I MEAN, I RECEIVED THIS, I GET ALL THE FLASHVOTES, PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.

AND IT WAS JUST CURIOUS. SO YOU WERE YOU WERE PLEASED WITH THE RESPONSES IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING? YES. OKAY. NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE FUN PART.

AFTER WE LOOK AT THIS, WHAT IS YOUR ESTIMATE OF THE TIMELINE BETWEEN WHEN WE COMPLETE THIS NEXT MODULE, CITY COUNCIL GETS IT. WHEN WHEN DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE ADOPTED? ASSUMING IT GOES THE WAY WE EXPECT IT TO. SO I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE SCHEDULE CALLS FOR.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST. I DON'T KNOW HOW.

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WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE LEGAL FOR, RIGHT? TO KEEP US OUT OF TROUBLE.

BUT SO THE SCHEDULE CALLED FOR THE FINAL DRAFT AND EVERYTHING TO BE READY FOR TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC IN MARCH, APRIL, WITH ADOPTION LOOKING LIKE MAY OR JUNE.

I THINK ADOPTION MAY AND JUNE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. AND, AND THE QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK WHEN I LOOK AT THESE HUNDREDS OF PAGES, AT SOME POINT THIS WILL BECOME A DIGITAL INTERACTIVE? IT WILL BECOME ONLINE ORDINANCE. OBVIOUSLY THAT COMES AT A COST THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SUBSCRIBING TO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU STILL PLANNING TO TAKE THE OVERLAYS OUT? I THINK I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A DECISION FOR ALL OF US, FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE AND COUNCIL.

BUT THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING.

I HAVE NOT HAD THAT DETAILED CONVERSATION YET WITH KENDIG KEAST.

I WILL HAVE THAT HERE BEFORE OUR NEXT WORKSHOP JUST TO SHARE WITH THEM SOME, SOME THOUGHTS AND GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST I IF I FEEL LIKE IT'S TAKING ON TOO MUCH, TOO FAST.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT WE DID ALL THE WORK ON THE MASTER PLAN, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO REFLECT THE MASTER PLAN IN DETAIL.

NOT YET, BUT IT WILL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THE MASTER PLAN IS A 35 YEAR PLAN.

SO WE CAN'T DO WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT ALL IN 1 IN 1 THE FIRST YEAR.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE EAGERNESS TO GET IT ALL DONE.

IT'S JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT TOO SO.

WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR MODULE 1? MODULE.

TIME I'VE REFLECTED GIVEN THOSE BACK TO KENDIG KEAST THERE, MAKING THOSE CHANGES.

OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE STILL REVIEWING IT AND YOU'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT THINGS AND THERE'S THINGS YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO IT. BUT I AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M MOVING FORWARD TO MODULE 2.

BUT THEY'LL ALL BOTH MODULES BE ADOPTED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO MODULE 1 IS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING INTO ITS FINAL.

RIGHT. VERSION? FROM OUR LAST. CORRECT. OKAY.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN PLEASE, NO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF IF YOU GET A WILD HAIR OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN AND YOU SAY, NO, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES.

OKAY. WELL, WE GET TO SEE THE UPDATED VERSION? ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN SO WE CAN READ IT. SURE.

IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO READ THAT WAY? IT MIGHT BE.

AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I, I THINK WILL BE EASIER.

AND I TRIED TO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME.

ONE OF THE REQUESTS I HAD WAS TO TRY TO BRING OUT ALL THESE STRIKETHROUGHS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CAN GET CONFUSING.

I TRIED TO DO THAT NOW, AND I RIGHT NOW I CAN'T I CAN'T DOWNLOAD A CLEAN VERSION JUST YET BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE DRAFT STAGE.

ONCE WE GET PAST THESE FIRST TWO DRAFTS, I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD A CLEAN VERSION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GIVE TO YOU ALL FOR, TO REVIEW AND MAKE FINAL COMMENT ON.

WHEN DO YOU EXPECT OUR COMMENTS ON THIS? WITH MODULE 2? SO WE ARE GOING TO LET ME PULL UP A CALENDAR REAL QUICK.

WE HAVE A WORKSHOP. WE HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 14TH.

THAT'S A WEDNESDAY NIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE A, A WORKSHOP WITH JUST KIND OF GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, LIKE WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF OTHER TIMES ON JANUARY THE 15TH.

THAT'S A THURSDAY NIGHT. SO I'D PROBABLY LIKE IF YOU COULD HAVE MOST OF YOUR REVIEW DONE BY THEN.

OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'VE STILL DOING THINGS, THAT'S FINE, BUT AT LEAST HAVE GONE THROUGH IT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE KENDIG KEAST WILL BE HERE AND THEY'D LOVE SOME OF YOUR INPUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

WE'VE GOT A MONTH ARE WE. IS IT LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON JANUARY THE 8TH? JUST A REGULAR MEETING? JUST WONDERING. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT AS SOON AS I KNOW THAT FOR SURE, I'LL LET YOU KNOW. I'VE JUST GOT MY FINAL EXAM THAT WOULD BE SCHEDULED AFTER THE HOLIDAYS

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BUT I DO WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW. BEFORE YOU LEAVE TONIGHT, THIS WILL BE ENRIQUE'S LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WITH US.

HE'S ACCEPTED A POSITION IN ANOTHER CITY. I YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE WITH THEIR LIVES, AND I'M LETTING HIM DO THAT. [LAUGHTER]. BUT SO FEEL FREE.

PLEASE STOP BY AND WISH HIM WELL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE NOW, SO. WE JUST, WE JUST GOT HIM TRAINED. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? HE'S GOING SOMEWHERE.

HIS LAST DAY IS? NEXT FRIDAY. WOW. GOOD LUCK YEAH. YOU'VE BEEN GREAT FOR US. IT'S BEEN FUN TO WATCH YOUR TRANSITION.

PUTTING UP WITH US. BUT IT'S. BUT IT'S BEEN GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

AND YOU STREAMLINED A LOT OF THINGS. AND THE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CASES THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER ARE NICELY CONCISE AND POINT US IN A GOOD DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. DON'T GIVE YOUR REPLACEMENT ANY DETAILS ABOUT OUR PERSONALITIES.

[LAUGHTER]. JUST LET US LET US GET TO KNOW THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

YOU ALL CAN MOLD WHOEVER COMES IN NEXT ALL RIGHT. WELL, COME BACK ANY TIME. YES. RANDOMLY SEE ME SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE.

THAT'D BE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'D BE GREAT.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, OUR LAST MOTION OF THE YEAR? WOULD BE? SOMEBODY MAKE IT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL SECOND. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:27. THAT WAS A QUICKIE.

BOY, THAT WAS A FAST ONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.