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I'VE BEEN CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE STREET IMPROVEMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
IT IS TUESDAY, JULY 1ST, 2025.
WELCOME THE FIELD AUDIENCE HERE TODAY.
ALRIGHT,
SO, UH, FIRST UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
UH, MOTION TO, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THERE.
I SECOND BY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DAWKINS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, WITH A VOTE OF AYE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS HERE.
UH, RECEIVE STATUS REPORT ON FISCAL YEAR 2024.
WHO'S GONNA TAKE THIS ONE? ALRIGHT.
PUBLIC, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR JOE SCHWEITZER.
THERE'S NO LIGHT ON THIS ONE, SO I DON'T GET THE CHEER.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO TAKE A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH AT ALL OF FOUR B'S BUDGET INSTEAD OF JUST THE CIP ITEMS, THE, THE LARGE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT OUT AS ONE PACKAGE.
UM, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT IS, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS THE SECOND PRESENTATION THAT I'LL TAKE THIS MINUTE TO, UH, INTRODUCE OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T MET HER, MARA QUA JOINED US JUST ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS CHRIS TEOW, THAT'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME.
HE'S, UH, NOW THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MANAGER, CAPITAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
I'M AN ENGINEER, NOT AN ENGLISH MAJOR
SO, UM, FIRST TO HIGHLIGHT JUST THAT, UH, UM, UH, AROUND THE CALENDAR YEAR, UM, ALL OF OUR MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS HIGHLIGHTED AND REGULARLY UPDATED ON PART OF THE WEBSITE.
YOU CAN GO IN AND SEE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OR ACTIVE CIP PROJECTS AND THE ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DOING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS DOESN'T FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ALL THE WAY TO COMPLETION.
THIS IS THE, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS PORTION OF THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE DOING WATER, SEWER, STORM DRAIN, OR STREETS.
UM, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT, UM, OF THE, THE WEBSITE AS, UH, JUST AS IT WAS SHOWING THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT, UH, WERE AVAILABLE, UM, WHEN THE SNAPSHOT WAS TAKEN AND, UH, AND THE DIFFERENT COLORS AND WHATNOT FROM CONSTRUCTION PENDING TO INDESIGN TO COMPLETE.
AND THAT SHOWS FUNDING AS WELL.
UH, YES, THERE ARE SOME DE PROJECT DETAILS AVAILABLE IF YOU CLICK ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE'LL GO INTO A FEW OF THEM, NOT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT DETAIL TONIGHT, BUT IF, BUT IF SOMEBODY WERE INTERESTED CORRECT, THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND SEE WHO'S FUNDING IT, TARRANT COUNTY OR ULI OR OTHERWISE.
IT'LL HAVE SOME FUNDING DETAILS.
IT'LL HAVE WHO THE CONTRACTOR IS, UH, BRIEF SCOPE OF WORK ON THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT'S, UH, BUDGET, AND A, UM, JUST A PERCENTAGE COMPLETION, A ROUGH PERCENTAGE COMPLETION, UM, FOR EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, HIGHLIGHTING FIRST, SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS WE HAVE DONE OR COMPLETED IN THE LAST YEAR WAS DEUCE DRIVE.
UM, THIS WAS A, UM, A WATER FUNDED PROJECT, UH, PRIMARILY WITH SOME, UH, WELL, A GOOD PORTION OF THE, UM, IT WAS CAUSED BY WATER, BUT A GOOD PORTION OF THE FUNDING WAS FOR STREETS BECAUSE WE ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME AS UPGRADING THE SEWER AND WATER UNDERNEATH THE STREET, WE CON, UM, CONVERTED THE STREET FROM ASPHALT TO CONCRETE.
SO THAT WAS A GOOD PORTION OF THE PRO OF THE COSTS THERE.
UM, ANOTHER ONE WE RECENTLY DID AS WE WENT IN AND TRIED TO DO A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THE SAME AREA AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WAS THE PHYLLIS STREET.
THIS WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH CDBG, UM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEREFORE WAS ACTUALLY RUN AND, UH, ADMINISTERED ON A DAILY BASIS BY THE COUNTY, BY TARRANT COUNTY.
UM, SO THE, UH, FOUR B FUND HEAD, UH, S-A-E-D-C HAD SOME FUNDING PORTIONS IN THAT FOR THE STREET COSTS ON TOP OF, AGAIN, ANOTHER
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WATER AND UTILITY PROJECT AS WE WENT THROUGH AND COMPLETED THIS ALSO, UH, PARKWOOD.NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO, UM, ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PARK, PARKWOOD, UH, STREET AND UTILITIES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST RECENTLY, ALL OF BEDFORD ROAD IS OPEN, UH, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE IT DOESN'T POUR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THE ROAD OPEN BY THE 4TH OF JULY TEMPORARILY.
WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE IT AT SOME TIME LATER TO COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK PORTION BECAUSE OF ENCORE.
UM, HOW, HOW LONG, SO THIS, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? SO EXPECTING CLOSURE FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT AND WE'RE GONNA CLOSE IT ONCE, THAT'S IT.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT FOR WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE A FEW MONTHS WHILE, UH, UH, WHILE ENCORE IS GOING THROUGH THEIR FUNDING AND, AND FINALIZATION PROCESSES.
UM, PART OF THE COMPLICATION WITH THIS PROJECT IS WE MOVED THE WATER LINE BECAUSE WE WANTED THE ELECTRICAL POLES TO GO WHERE THE WATER LINE WAS MM-HMM
SO THAT WE COULD THEN PUT THE SIDEWALK WHERE THE POWER POLES WERE, WERE.
SO WE HAD TO DO A LITTLE GAME.
AND THERE WAS, UM, DELAYS ON ENCORE SIDE AS PART OF THIS, UM, THAT, UH, THAT HAVE PUSHED THAT PRO PORT PORTION OF THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK.
UM, BUT THE, OUR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UM, LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION AND THINGS ARE BEING FINALIZED AND, UH, AND PUT IN.
UM, AND WE WILL, UH, HOPEFULLY OPEN IT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.
UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO CLOSE IT ONCE WHEN ENCORE IS READY TO MOVE THE POLES.
AND WE DO THE SIDEWALK FAIRLY QUICK AFTER THAT.
AS OPPOSED TO LEAVING IT CLOSED FOR WHAT COULD BE FOUR OR FIVE MORE MONTHS.
COUNCIL MEMBER SABLE, UH, JOE, UH, CAN YOU MAKE SURE ENCORE TAKES DOWN THE OLD POLLS? YES.
THEY, THEY'RE NOTORIOUS FOR LEAVING STUPID OLD POLLS UP, SO THANK YOU.
YEAH, THERE WERE, UH, A LITTLE, A FEW OTHER UTILITY ISSUES WITH, UH, WITH FRANCHISE, UH, TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES THAT, UH, DELAYED PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE NOW OVERCOME AND GOTTEN THOSE, UH, THOSE CLEARED AND, AND DONE.
AND, UH, OTHER THAN THE SIDEWALK PORTION, ALL OF THE HARDSCAPE IS DONE.
MOVING ON IS THE WEST PIPELINE ROAD PROJECT.
LAST TIME I TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UM, IT IMPACTED SIDC.
UM, SINCE THAT MEETING, UH, COUNCIL HAS VOTED TO PARTICIPATE FOR SIDEWALKS AND OTHER, UM, SIDEWALKS, RAMPS, GABLE BARRIER CONCRETE FILM, I MIGHT AS WELL READ THE SLIDE WHEN I HAVE IT.
UM, FOR A, JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THAT OVERALL PROJECT OF WHAT'S BEING DONE BY THE CITY OF ULI, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS WITH, UH, WITH THEIR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND TRYING TO DO PHASING, UM, THAT, UH, THAT HAVEN'T WORKED QUITE AS WELL AS THEY HAD PLANNED SO THAT WERE LAST MINUTE CHANGES AND WHATNOT.
AND THAT'S, UH, UM, WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS BEEN PUT OUT JUST AS BEST AS WE CAN.
UM, WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM ULI AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THAT CHANGES ON THE FLY, SO IT'S NOT ACCURATE.
AND SO, UM, SO ULI REALLY NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING THIS WITH US SO WE CAN DISSEMINATE IT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS ARE REALLY, REALLY UPSET WITH HOW PIPELINE'S GOING.
UM, AND SO WHEN, WHEN DO WE SEE THAT ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE OF, OF THIS? IT STILL SAYS FALL HERE.
I'M HOPING THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE OPTIMISTIC.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A, IT SAYS FALL 2024.
WELL, THAT NEEDS TO BE, SO THAT'S AN UPDATE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE, WE'RE THINKING PROBABLY, SO STILL TO DO ON THAT PEAK HERE.
SO THE, THE MOST RECENT AREA THAT THEY'VE MOVED INTO IS THE, UM, UH, THE CURVE THERE TOWARDS THE WEST END OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THEY'RE HAVING TO SHUT BASICALLY FROM, UH, BECAUSE OF LIMITED ACCESS AND OTHER ROUTES IN THE AREA FROM FOREST RIDGE OVER TO THE, THE STREETS ON THE, THE WEST SIDE THERE, THEY'RE HAVING TO CLOSE THAT WHOLE SECTION AT ONCE.
THEY ALLOW RESIDENTS AND AMAZON AND EVERYBODY ELSE AND TRASH COLLECTION TO GET IN.
UM, BUT AS A THROUGH STREET IT'S CLOSED AS THEY DO ONE HALF.
AND THEN THE OTHER IN THAT SECTION ALSO IS THE RETAINING WALL SECTION THAT THEY'LL BE DOING, UM, ALONG WITH OUR CABLE BARRIER AND THE CONCRETE FLUE PORTION.
SO THERE'S STILL A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO OVER THERE.
AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY HAVE THAT SCHEDULED OR PLANNED.
BUT AGAIN, UH, INSPECTION MANAGEMENT AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE DONE BY USELESS.
SO WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION WE GET, YOU GET YEAH.
AS CORRECT AS IT IS WHEN WE RECEIVE IT.
AND THAT PROJECT'S ONLY COSTING US TO SHY OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND THAT WAS FOR THE MANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY DID, UM,
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PAST WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO TIE INTO THE STREETS AND TO THE SIDEWALKS AS THEY WERE GOING.UM, DISCUSS PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WERE TO, TO MAKE SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG PIPELINE THERE.
UM, ONE OF THE NEXT PROJECTS UP THAT WE, UH, WE PLAN TO START SOON WILL BE THIS GREGORY AND BEDFORD COURT ADDITIONS.
UH, ATMOS HAS JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THEIR WORK, UM, THAT WAS NECESSARY TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO OURS.
UM, SO UNLIKE, UM, PARKWOOD, WE GOT THE UTILITIES OUTTA THE WAY BEFORE WE STARTED THIS TIME.
UM, NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH FINAL, MAKING SURE DOCUMENTS ARE CORRECT, LAWYERS ARE HAPPY WITH THE ITEMS WE'RE READY TO PUT OUT AND THOSE KIND OF STEPS.
AND THEN WE'LL BID IT, UM, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND THEN COME TO COUNCIL WITH A, UM, A CONTRACT AWARD.
SO, SO YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
SO THIS, THIS PROJECT IS SEWER AND STREETS.
UM, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S AN INTERESTING PROJECT 'CAUSE THE SEWER IN THE STREETS DON'T NECESSARILY LINE UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
A LOT OF THE SEWER IS THE BACKYARDS, BUT WHERE THEY COME OUT FROM BETWEEN BACKYARDS WHERE WE'RE DOING CAST IN, UH, PLACE, UM, OR, UH, CURED IN PLACE PIPE.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT DIGGING UP TRENCHES IN THE BACKYARDS TO, UH, TO, UH, WORK ON THE, TO IMPROVE THE PIPE.
UM, THEY DO COME OUT INTO THE STREET AT SOME PORTIONS, AND THOSE ARE GETTING FIXED AND REPAIRED PRIOR TO THE STREETS.
THE, THE PLAN WITH THIS PROJECT AT THE MOMENT, WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS FOR ASPHALT AND CONCRETE, UM, UH, DESIGNED AND, UH, AND PUT INTO, UH, ENGINEER ESTIMATES.
UM, THE IDEA RIGHT NOW IS TO GO WITH THE CONCRETE OPTION THAT THE CON THAT THE ENGINEER BELIEVES IS ACTUALLY CHEAPER THAN THE ASPHALT, REALLY BECAUSE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL SECTION THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DIG AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PLACE ASPHALT ON CONCRETE, IT'S NOT STRAIGHT, THIS MUCH ASPHALT, THIS MUCH CONCRETE.
SO THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, UM, IS THE, THE ADDITIONAL COST THIS, IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER FOR US TO DO CONCRETE IN THIS.
UM, AND SO GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT, SO WE WE'RE PRETTY POSITIVE THOSE WATER LINES, SO I KNOW WE'RE DOING THE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WATER LINES ARE, ARE AKAY UPDATED? CORRECT.
UM, AND IN GOOD SHAPE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS? YEAH.
THAT WOULD'VE ALL BEEN WORKED OUT ENGINEERING WISE BEFORE DESIGN STARTED.
BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT TO BID, WE'LL TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED.
UM, SO BEFORE WE GO OUT TO BID AND, AND, UM, AND GET A CONTRACTOR, UM, UNDER CONTRACT, WE'LL TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
UH, BROWN TRAIL WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SOME TIME.
WE RECENTLY, UH, GOT IN, GAVE COMMENTS TO THE DESIGNER ON THEIR 30%, UH, PLANS.
THIS OF COURSE BEING PART OF THE, UH, TARRANT COUNTY BOND PROJECT OR PROGRAM FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UH, UH, TO WORK THOSE HOPEFULLY TOWARDS, UH, WITH CONSTRUCTION MAYBE AS SOON AS THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
SO WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR? I KNOW WE WE'RE TAKING A PAUSE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT ALL HAS BEEN DONE RIGHT NOW ON SO ON BROWN TRAIL IN GENERAL? YEAH, WE, UH, WE ARE FINISHING UP, I MAY HAVE A SLIDE LATER ON, UM, BUT WE ARE FINISHING UP THE UTILITY PROJECT ALONG THERE.
UM, UH, THE UTILITIES THAT WE'VE JUST RECENTLY DONE ALONG BROWN TRAIL, WE'RE PART OF A LARGER MULTI-LOCATION PROJECT, UM, THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK AND COMPLETE ALONG BEDFORD ROAD.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE, UH, A SMALL AMOUNT OF WORK, BUT IT'LL BE A SUBSTANTIAL, UM, UM, TRAFFIC CHANGES AS WE TRY AND CROSS THE INTERSECTION OF BEDFORD ROAD AND BROWN TRAIL WITH BOTH WATER AND SEWER.
UM, SO WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH THOSE, HOPEFULLY KNOCK ON WOOD, LONG BEFORE THE BROWN TRAIL STREET PROJECT IS DONE, THEN WE WILL HAVE, UM, AT LEAST SEMI RECENTLY, SOME OF THE SEWER WAS HAVE BEEN DONE, UM, PRIOR, IN A PRIOR PROJECT RECENTLY.
BUT WE WILL HAVE SEWER, WATER, AND NEW STREETS ALONG THIS SECTION OF BROWN TRAIL.
UM, SO THIS IS GOING TO START, UM, IN 2026.
UM, AND DO WE ANTICIPATE, DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL, WILL TAKE ONCE IT DOES, ONCE IT GOES AGAIN? I THINK I HAD HEARD 18 MONTHS.
UM, THEY SECTIONS, UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW WE WILL PLAY THIS ONE, ONE OUT, WHETHER IT'S, UH, SECTIONS LONGITUDINALLY OR NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND OR SOMETHING.
THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT CHANGES IN GRADE AND IF THE STREET WILL BE LOWER OR HIGHER,
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AND HOW THOSE SECTIONS WILL MEET TO PLAN OUT WHETHER, HOW WE TRANSITION FROM ONE SECTION TO ANOTHER OPEN UP PIPELINE.UM, THEY'RE SAYING IT SHOULD BE OPEN BY THE START OF SCHOOL.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT'LL BE ROAD AND EVERYTHING, THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING ON SIDEWALKS AND OKAY.
SOUNDS LIKE GREAT NEWS, BUT IT'S GOOD, GOOD NEWS.
IT SHOULD BE OPEN START OF SCHOOL.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON BROWN TRAIL? OKAY.
NO, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE END OF OUR TRADITIONAL CIP PROJECTS.
THE THE BIG ONES THAT WE PUT OUT TO ONE CONTRACTOR AND KIND OF JUST MANAGE THAT AND GO AWAY FROM, UM, AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY WORK THE CONTRACT TO THE END TO MORE OF WHAT WOULD BE TRADITIONALLY CALLED MAINTENANCE WORK.
UM, PART OF THE, UM, THE FOUR B OPERATIONS BUDGET ITEMS. UM, THIS IS, UH, TENNIS AND RACKET CLUB, UM, WAS DONE WITH, UH, WITH PART OF THE COUNTY CREW.
THE, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE USED THE TARRANT COUNTY PAVING CREW, UM, TO COME IN, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR GO AND MILL THE ROAD, UH, TAKE OFF ABOUT THE TOP TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT.
UM, OUR STAFF IS PROVIDING SUPPORT AND TRAFFIC CONTROL AND OTHER FEATURES FOR THIS.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY MORE LIKE A STAFF AUGMENTATION THAN A CONTRACTOR.
UM, WHERE, AND THEN THE PAV, THE COUNTY'S PAVING CREW WILL COME IN, UM, FOR SEVERAL DAYS OR WEEKS.
THIS WAS A FAIRLY SMALL AREA, UM, BUT FAIRLY HIGH TRAFFIC, UM, FOR THEM TO DO.
AND, UH, IT, IT COUNTS BECAUSE OF OUR STAFF INVOLVEMENT AND THE FACT THAT WE PAY FOR, FOR AS FAR, WE PAY THE CONTRACTOR THAT DOES THE MILLING JUST AS NORMAL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PAVING, WE PAY FOR THE MATERIALS AND WE PAY FOR ONE HALF OF THE COUNTY'S FUEL.
WE DO NOT PAY ANY LABOR OR OVERHEAD, AND THERE'S OF COURSE NO PROFIT.
SO THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL SAVING SOMETHING LIKE 30 TO 40%, UM, AGAINST HAVING OUR NORMAL, UM, MULLAN OVERLAY CONTRACTOR DO THE WORK.
UM, SUCH AS WHEN WE CAME IN, AND I KNOW I, UM, IT WAS A CHUCKLE LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED CALLING THESE RURAL ROADS, BUT THERE WERE OUR THREE BAR DITCH SECTIONS LEFT MM-HMM
UM, AND ALL WERE IN FAIRLY POOR CONDITIONS.
UM, WELL, THREE OR FOUR DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO COUNT, UH, UH, WOOD PARK.
UM, BUT THESE, AND THE, UH, THE STREET THERE, UM, WE DID FIND THAT, UM, OUR INITIAL COST ESTIMATES FROM THE CONTRACTOR WERE A LITTLE HIGH.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND DO A COUPLE OF MORE ROADS IN THE NEXT, UH, MONTH OR SO.
UM, AFTER THE HOLIDAY, UM, WE'LL GO AND CONTINUE, UM, CONTINUE ONE OF THE ROADS WE CUT OFF THERE AND GO AND ADDRESS A COUPLE OF SMALL, LITTLE, UM, VERY POOR CONDITIONED ROADS, UH, IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORING AREA.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE IDENTIFIED, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OFFHAND THOUGH.
UM, SO WE, WE WILL, UH, TRY AND GO, THIS IS PART OF THE, UM, OVERALL IT'S A $2 MILLION LINE ITEM FOR, UH, CONTRACT LABOR OR WHAT'S THE OTHER TERM? CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
UM, UH, A MILLION OF WHICH IS SET ASIDE FOR ASPHALT PAVING.
UM, WE KEEP A LITTLE BIT, UH, FOR RAINY DAYS AND EMERGENCY KIND OF THINGS, BUT, UH, WHEN WE GET DONE, THIS WILL BE ABOUT A $900,000 MILL AND OVERLAY SECTION THAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR.
UM, AND SOME OF THESE, THE, LIKE I SAID, THE THREE RURAL ROADS, EVEN INCLUDING, UH, UH, WOOD PARK WERE DONE BECAUSE THEY WERE, UM, THERE WERE NO UTILITIES IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING, UH, WORK UNDERNEATH THEM.
UM, THEY WERE ON THE POOR HALF OF THE CONDITION OF ROADS IN THE AREA.
UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, THIS WAS SEEN AS A VERY SIMPLE, EASY WAY TO GET THEM OFF OF THE EVER BUILDING TO-DO LIST.
AND WE CAN, AND IT WAS, WHATEVER THE WAY HEAR YOU SAYING IS JUST THE EASY WINS THAT WE CAN KNOCK OUT REAL QUICK AND FOR, UH, A GOOD PRICE TO BEING ABLE TO DO IT.
UM, AND THOSE ROLL, UH, ROADS, THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE TO TOUCH THEM SHOULD BE IN THE NEXT 15, 20, 15, 20 YEARS.
IT SAVES THE CONTRACTOR SOME MOBILIZATION AND SOME EASE.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE WE GO AND, UH, EVALUATE WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE
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DONE.IF WE NEED TO DO SEWER AND WATER LINES UNDER A STREET, IT MAY GET PUSHED OFF TO A MORE SUBSTANTIAL CIP TYPE PROJECT WHERE WE CAN GO, GO DO THE MILL AND OVERLAY ON ROADS THAT MAY BE IN ABOUT THE SAME CONDITION, BUT DON'T NEED THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
DO YOU PAY ANY ATTENTION TO HOW MANY HOMES ARE ON THAT STREET OR HOW THE ROAD IS BEING USED? SO MY QUESTION IS, THE ONE UP THERE BY BEHIND WALMART, IT GOES NOWHERE.
RIGHT? WELL, AND YOU DID IT AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE THINKING MEANT WOULD BE THERE.
UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S A, A LOWER TRAFFIC ROAD.
UM, THERE ARE NO TRAFFIC
WELL, THERE ARE FIVE HOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN THE BACK ROAD INTO THE, UM, THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, ON THE SOUTH.
BUT IF IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD, WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, A BASE LEVEL, UM, OF SAFETY, UH, UM, THAT, THAT THOSE SAW.
WE LIKE, WE LIKE THE, UH, I GUESS PRESIDENT, I SAID, UM, IT'S A, SOMETHING WE CAN DO SIMPLY TO FIX THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE ON THOSE ROADS.
MOST OF THE TIME WE WOULD, UM, NOT, NOT FOCUS ON THOSE.
UM, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD BEEN KIND OF IGNORED FOR, UM, DECADES PER, PER SE.
UM, AND AT SOME POINT THEY HAD TO GET LOOKED AT.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T JUST LET THE ROAD DETERIORATE TO WHERE IT GETS TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE.
I JUST, UH, I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE IT SEEMS RATHER ARBITRARY
AND, AND I SUPPOSE THAT'S OKAY, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATIONS AS TO WHAT, AND THERE MIGHT BE A FORCE, UH, UH, THINKING AHEAD OF WHAT MIGHT IT CAUSE.
AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN MAYBE CONSIDER THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND, AND PIGGYBACKING OFF THAT FOR, FOR THESE RURAL ROADS THAT WE IDENTIFIED, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE NARROWER, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE SIMPLER.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THE COST IS LESS BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU LUMPED THEM TOGETHER? CORRECT.
IT WAS AN EASY, UM, FOR NOW LET'S, UH, LET'S GET THESE OUTTA THE WAY AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON AND FOCUS, UM, WHERE, UH, UH, WHERE YEAH.
WHERE WE NEED TO FOR, FOR LARGER IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THIS IS THE AREA THAT OUR AREA IS, I SHOULD SAY, THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR OUR H HA FIVE, UM, UM, UH, SEAL COATS.
UM, NOT SEAL COATS, HIGH MINERAL BOND, HIGH MINERAL BOND, I DENSITY MINERAL BOND.
UM, FOR, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
IT'S A, UM, SALES PERSON'S WORDS, UM, TO, TO SEAL AND PRESERVE THE, THE SURFACE OF THE PAVEMENT.
UM, NOT ONLY DOES, UH, THE ZEAL, A YEAR AGO WE TALKED ABOUT A BUNCH ABOUT PAVEMENT, DEGRADATION AND PCI SCORES AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND WE'LL GET TO A LITTLE PCI IN A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, UH, BUT THOSE MINERAL BONDS PREVENT OR SLOW THE DEGRADATION IN THE STREET.
IT MAY LOOK LIKE IT, UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CHEMISTRY GOING ON INSIDE IT.
UM, IT'S, WE'RE NOT ONLY ADDING OIL TO WHAT HAS BEEN DRIED OUT BY THE SUN AND THE WIND AND THE RAIN, UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEAL IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T, SO IT SLOWS THE LOSS.
UM, SO THESE ARE THE STREETS THAT WE'VE, UH, UM, IDENTIFIED FOR THIS YEAR.
IN OUR LAST MEETING, I REMEMBER YOU SHOWING US PICTURES OF THOSE AND THEY, UM, THOSE ROADS LOOK EVEN BETTER THAN A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, CORRECT.
I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE MET, I HAD A, UH, A H HA FIVE ROAD FROM THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE DOING H HA FIVE IN A CONCRETE OR AN ASPHALT ROAD THAT WAS PAVED THAT SAME YEAR.
WHAT WAS IT, 22, 23? UM, SOMEWHERE IN THAT REALM.
AND THE, UM, THE AJ FIVE ONE LOOKS IN BETTER CONDITION THAN THE PAVED ONE.
MAINLY IT'S, UH, MAINLY IT'S VISUALLY, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE NEW PAVEMENT LOSES A BUNCH OF OIL REAL QUICK OFF THE VERY SURFACE, SO THAT TURNS A LIGHTER GRAY.
UM, AND THEN IT JUST SLOWLY, UM, EVAPORATES FROM THERE.
AND SO THIS, THESE ARE GONNA BE DONE THIS MONTH? CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SLATED FOR THIS MONTH, UM, ALREADY APPROVED.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS MINERAL BOND, UM, FOR OUR STREETS, IS THE IDEA THAT EVENTUALLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SOME OF THESE STREETS.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO PRESERVE THE LIFE, BUT CAN YOU GO OVER IT AGAIN? YES, CAN.
UM, YOU CAN, WHEN THE, WHEN THOSE EFFECTS HAVE NOW WORN DOWN SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS LATER, UM, SNEAK PEEK, UM, WHEN WE GET INTO THE, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSION LATER, THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU WILL NOT SEE HA FIVE ON IT FOR NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE KIND OF RUN OUT OF GOOD CLUSTERS OF AREAS WHERE WE COULD DO A, A LITTLE STRIP HERE AND A LITTLE STRIP HERE, AND A LITTLE STRIP THERE.
UM, BUT INSTEAD OF LOOKING, UM, FULLY AT PCI SCORES
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FOR OUR FUTURE PLANNING, UM, AND, AND GO AND GET THAT LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC STREET AND THIS LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC STREET AND THIS, UH, THROUGH STREET OR COLLECTOR STREET, BUT NOT DO ANY OF THE CUL-DE-SACS 'CAUSE THEY WERE DONE LATER, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND DO MORE, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT REGIONAL, BUT AREAS SMALL, UM, SUBDIVISIONS OR, OR, OR SIMILAR SIZE AREAS AT A TIME.AND WE'LL DO THAT WHOLE THING.
WERE WERE THINGS IN THE PAST, FROM WHAT YOU CAN TELL, IS THAT HOW THINGS WERE DONE WERE JUST PIECEMEALED A LITTLE BIT HERE, CUL-DE-SAC HERE, CORRECT.
STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, AND THEN THERE WASN'T A STRATEGIC WAY OF TACKLING AREAS OF THE CITY TO MINIMIZE COSTS, BUT THEN ALSO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN 10, 15 YEARS NOW, WE DO THIS SECTION AGAIN.
AND SO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE OF, UM, TAKING CARE OF OUR ROADS.
THAT WASN'T, THAT HASN'T BEEN IN PLACE.
GOOD TO KNOW HOW THINGS WERE LONG AGO.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST A SAMPLING OF THE CONCRETE REPAIRS WE'VE DONE.
UM, AND WORK ORDERS AND INVOICES FROM OUR, UM, FROM OUR MISCELLANEOUS CONCRETE REPAIR, UM, CONTRACTOR AND CREWS.
UM, THIS IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND CURB AND GUTTER AND VALLEY GUTTER AND ANY, ANY MISCELLANEOUS.
UM, THE DOTS HERE IS JUST THAT A LOCATION WE WORKED ON, THEY'RE NOT, UH, NECESSARILY ANYTHING OF IT'S A HUNDRED FEET OR 10 FEET.
THE, THE CURB AND GUTTER WE'RE NOT SECTION YEAH.
WE'RE ONLY GONNA REPLACE WHAT WE NEED TO.
UM, SOME OF THESE WERE CONDITIONS, SOME OF 'EM WERE, IT'S HOLDING WATER, SOME OF 'EM ARE, UM, UH, WE CHANGED GRADE ON THE STREET AND THE, THE SIDEWALK NEEDED TO MOVE A LOT OF THE TIME BEFORE WE GO IN AND DO MILL AND OVERLAY SECTIONS.
WE DO A GOOD AMOUNT OF CURB AND GUTTER SO THAT WE HAVE A NICE SMOOTH STRAIGHT LINE TO PAVE UP AGAINST COUNCILMAN FARGO.
JOE, ON THESE CONCRETE REPAIRS, WE WERE RUN INTO, UH, SITUATIONS WHERE THE UTILITY CONTRACTORS HAVE COME IN AND RUINED IT.
AND DO WE BUILD THEM BACK? WE EITHER BUILD THEM BACK OR THEY REPLACE IT.
DO THEY REPLACE IT TO OUR STANDARD? THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
I MEAN, I KNOW ON THE, THE, UH, WHEN THEY'RE REPLACING ASPHALT, THEY DON'T DO A GOOD JOB.
THEY USUALLY DO IT AND THEN IT, IT SINKS IN, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER OR, OR THAT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
'CAUSE I MEAN, THE BIG THING IS, IS LIKE THIS YEAR WITH THE UTILITY CONTRACTORS, THEY DUG ALL THE HOLES MM-HMM
WE GOT ALL THE RAIN, WE GOT ALL THE MOSQUITOES, AND EVERYBODY'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY'RE NOT THE MOST RELIABLE.
UM, THEY DON'T HIRE THE BEST CONTRACTORS TO, TO DO THIS WORK.
SO I, I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT BROKEN SPRINKLER HEADS, UM, MESSING UP OUR, OUR SIDEWALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BILLING THEM BACK.
WE, WE HAVE, I DON'T WANNA SAY KICKED OUT, BUT LIMITED THE WORK THAT SEVERAL OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA CAN DO IN THE FUTURE.
UM, A LOT OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE FRANCHISE CONTRACTORS, UH, FRANCHISE UTILITY CONTRACTORS IS IT'S NOT THE CONTRACTOR THAT AT AND T OR UH, OR FRONTIER OR EVEN ENCORE CONTRACTED WITH.
IT'S A SUB AND MAYBE EVEN A SUB TO A SUB THAT THEY HIRE AND DO THE WORK AND GET IN, GET OUT.
AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THESE SCHEDULING AND DELAYS BETWEEN, THERE'S A HOLE IN MY YARD, THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THREE WEEKS.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL LAYERS AND, AND, UM, CONTRACTOR PLAYERS IN THE GAME.
THAT ONE HAS TO GET SCHEDULED AFTER THE OTHER.
AND IF THE, WHATEVER PRIME CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THAT WORK FOR ENCORE ISN'T ON TOP OF THOSE GUYS ALL THE TIME, THEN YOU GET MULTIPLE WEEK DELAYS.
UH, TRAFFIC MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE 27, UH, SIG SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS, THE CITY MAINTAINS, UM, SOON TO BE 28.
UM, THIS IS A, AN IDEA OF WHERE WE HAVE MAINTAINED SIGNS IN THE LAST YEAR WITH OUR THREE TRAFFIC STAFF.
UM, IT'S, UH, YEAH, THE JUST SIGNALS WORK ORDERS AND, UH, AND SIGNS AND, AND THAT'S, THOSE STAFF ARE INVOLVED WITH VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS DURING THE YEAR TOO.
SO THEY, UH, THEY DO KEEP BUSY AND THEY MOVE AROUND AND, UM, BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE STAFF TO DRIVE DOWN EVERY ROAD EVERY DAY.
SO IF THERE'S A SIGN THAT SOMEBODY HIT OR IF THERE'S A SIGN ON THE GROUND, WE DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC'S NOTIFICATION THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPENED, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EYES EVERYWHERE.
WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY BIG BROTHER.
COUNCIL MEMBER SABLE, YOU'VE GOT, UM, A LOT OF BLUE MARKINGS FOR SIGN ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD BE FOREST RIDGE.
WOULD, WOULD YOU HAVE REPLACED ALL THE STREET SIGNS IN THAT AREA? UM, IT WOULD'VE BEEN EITHER IF WE WERE POTENTIALLY ADDING
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SOME TYPE OF SIGN OR IF WE HAD REPLACED, UH, OR IF THERE HAD BEEN SOME OTHER ISSUES WITH THE, UH, THE SIGNS IN GENERAL.UM, SOMETIMES ON A PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, SAY IF IT WAS PLACED, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 20 YEARS AGO, UM, THEN MAYBE ALL THOSE SIGNS NEEDED TO GET REPLACED ALL AT ONCE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY STREET SIGNS? CORRECT.
THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING, AND YES, IT'S A BUNCH OF GOBBLY GOOD, BUT OUR STAFF AND CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN, UH, FAIRLY BUSY, UM, EVEN WITH SOME LIMITING CONDITIONS.
SO SAYING WE WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON ONE SECTION OF THE CITY, IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING.
IT MAY SEEM, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, YES, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF UTILITY PROJECTS DOWN SOUTH.
YOU'LL SEE, UH, IN THE SECOND PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE SOME PAVING PLANNED, UH, BUT THEN WE SHOULD BE MORE, UM, MODULAR GOTCHA.
SO TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, UM, OF COURSE.
YOU'LL JUDGE BY THE WORDS AND THE NUMBERS THERE.
THIS IS NOT A A B, C, D TYPE SYSTEM.
UM, 70 AT A C IS NOT THE BASE LEVEL.
UM, UH, SO IT'S A DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT SCALE THAN YOU THINK FROM FROM GRADE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING.
UM, ONE THING, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT PCI SCORES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PAVEMENT, UH, DEGRADATION AND PROBLEMS AND WHATNOT.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO PUT SOME NUMBERS WITH SOME PICTURES AND EXPLAIN, UH, AND KIND OF WORK UP.
AND, UH, I WON'T QUIZ YOU, BUT MAYBE YOU THINK IN YOUR MIND, WELL, IF THAT MY STREET LOOKED LIKE THAT, I'D PROBABLY BE OKAY WITH IT.
UM, OR I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT LEVEL OF A STREET, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EXCELLENT.
MAYBE YOU DECIDE THAT SOMEWHERE, LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES BEFORE WE GET TO VERY GOOD AND EXCELLENT.
UM, MANY OF THE STREETS IN THE PHOTOS, UM, OF COURSE, A 2D PHOTO IS, UH, IS NOT THE BEST REPRESENTATION.
SO WHEN I TOOK THESE PHOTOS, UH, I TOOK SOME NOTES AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE, STARTING AT VERY POOR.
UM, BOTTOM LEFT PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE, UM, UP BY THE PATCH KIND OF IN THE, UM, DISTANCE THERE IN THE CENTER, UH, UPPER CENTER OF THE PHOTO.
THERE'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP THERE.
UM, REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE ALL OF OUR PCI SCORES ARE BASED ON, UM, OPTICS TO THE SENSORS AND THE LIDAR, UM, THAT THE, UM, THE VAN GOES AND RECORDS AS IT GOES.
UM, UM, SO IT'S A, I WOULD SAY AN APPROXIMATION OR AN ESTIMATION OF DRIVE EXPERIENCE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A, IT'S NOT SCORED ON, I HAVE A WATER CUP ON MY CENTER DASH AND DOES ANYTHING SPILL.
UM, YOU WILL SEE AS WE GO, THERE ARE LESS CRACKS, UM, LESS AREAS.
UH, IF YOU SEE THE BOTTOM RIGHT PHOTO, THAT'D BE TYPICALLY CALLED ALLIGATOR CRACKING.
THAT'S WHEN THAT ASPHALT IS FLEXING QUITE A BIT AS CARS GO OVER IT.
NOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING QUARTER, UH, FRACTIONS OF AN INCH OR MICROMETERS, UM, FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHEN THE, THE MATERIAL UNDERNEATH THE ASPHALT IS SOFT AND IT'S NOT RESISTING ALL OF THAT FORCE THAT YOUR TIRES ARE PUTTING ON IT.
IT'S JUST ONE STEP AWAY FROM BECOMING A POTHOLE THEN, CORRECT? FROM THAT POINT? YEAH.
THE SMALLER THE, THE SMALLER THE BLOCK THERE, THE SMALLER OF THE LITTLE, IF YOU CALL IT ALLIGATOR, THE SCALE, UM, UH, THE EASIER IT IS TO BE, TO START A POTHOLE.
SO WE GO TO POUR AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THAT ALLIGATOR CRACKING IS GONE.
THERE MAY BE A FEW SMALLER AREAS ALONG THE CURBS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, LARGER BLOCK CRACKING, UM, SOMETIMES, UH, SOMETIMES CALLED TENSILE CRACKING JUST AS THE MATERIAL DRIES OUT AND THERE ISN'T AS MUCH OIL IN THE STREET.
UM, SO YOU'RE LOSING MATERIAL, YOU'RE LOSING MASS.
UM, SO THERE'S, UH, SOME TENSILE FORCES THERE ALSO.
UM, SOME OF THESE YOU'LL SEE ARE, UM, POTENTIALLY OLD, UM, UTILITY TRENCHES UNDERNEATH A MILL AND OVERLAY WHERE REFLECTIVE CRACKING HAS COME UP THROUGH THE, THE MILL AND OVERLAY PORTION, UM, AFTER SOME TIME, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A FULL SECTION OF FOUR INCH ASPHALT, THEN TWO INCHES IS A FULL, UH, UH, A MILL AND OVERLAY PATCH THAT FORCE, UH, UM, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF MOVEMENT IN THE LOWER LEVELS, CAN, UH, CAN REFLECT UP THROUGH MOVING ON TO MARGINAL, YOU'LL SEE MUCH LESS CRACKING.
UM, SOME OF THESE, UM, UH, SOME OF THESE PHOTOS I TOOK BEFORE AND AFTER WE HAD ONE OF THE LITTLE, UH, SHOWERS LAST, LAST WEEK.
UM, SO IT WAS, UH, SO MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE, LIKE IN THE TOP RIGHT AND BOTTOM LEFT PHOTO HERE, THE DIFFERENT COLORS IS MOISTURE.
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UM, IT'S JUST MOISTURE IN THE ROW THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GONE 20 MINUTES LATER PROBABLY.BUT YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE MUCH, UH, THESE ARE STILL A VERY LIGHT GRAY COLOR.
THE, THE ASPHALT HAS DRIED OUT QUITE, QUITE A BIT.
IT ISN'T AS MALLEABLE, UM, AS, UH, AS, AS NEW ASPHALT MOVING ON TOWARDS FAIR, SLIGHT DIFFERENCES, LITTLE BIT LESS CRACKING.
UH, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU SEE THESE LONG LONGITUDINAL CRACKS, ESPECIALLY THE ONE DOWN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, THAT'S WHERE THE PAVER ONE PASS AND CAME BACK THE NEXT PASS, UM, AND TRIED TO BUTT UP AS TIGHT AS THEY COULD.
BUT VERY OFTEN YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT ANY, ANY SEAM IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE MIDDLE RIGHT.
OF ANY MATERIAL, WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S A TARP OR A SHIRT OR ANYTHING.
THE, THE SEAM IS WHERE IT BREAKS MOST OFTEN.
GOING INTO GOOD, UM, MOST OF THE TIME YOU DON'T HAVE A, A CONTINUOUS CRACK.
THEY'RE MORE OF THE, THE STRESS AND DRYING AND, AND LONG TERM, UM, MOVEMENTS, UM, TYPE OF, UH, OF CRACKS, WHETHER, WHETHER YOU CAN SEE THE CRACK OR NOT.
IF WE'VE GOTTEN TO, UM, CRACK SEAL IT OR NOT, UH, REMEMBER THAT THE, THE DARK BLACK LINES AREN'T A PRO A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH THE STREET.
THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GONE AND CRACK SEALED AND TRIED TO PREVENT MOISTURE FROM GETTING DOWN THAT CRACK.
OF COURSE, YOU, YOU START TO SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, UM, JUST THE SEAMS START TO, UH, TAR START TO BUILD THERE.
THIS IS PROBABLY A SEVERAL YEAR OLD ROAD AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND THEN WITH, UH, WITH EXCELLENT IS OUR BRAND NEW OVERLAY ROADS THAT, UH, THIS WAS PAVED TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE PHOTO, SO GOTCHA.
UM, SO THINK TO YOURSELF MAYBE, OOPS, WRONG.
SORRY, I, OH, MAYBE GOING TOO FAST, WE MOVE.
MAYBE WE'RE ON A LITTLE TRIP HERE.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE SOMETHING OTHER THAN EXCELLENCE IS ACCEPTABLE IN YOUR MIND.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE POINT IS, UM, WITH PCI SCORES, A HUNDRED PERCENT IS NOT THE GOAL.
UNLESS, UNLESS WE HAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PAVE EVERYTHING EVERY YEAR, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE.
YOU REACH A, YOU REACH A PLATEAU.
I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET, AND AS SOON AS IT'S BUILT, YOU'RE, IT'S ALREADY YOU, IT'S ALREADY GONNA BE STARTING TO WITHER, YOU KNOW, ROAD.
AND THAT TIME, THAT CLOCK STARTS TICKING ON IT.
ROADS AREN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN COMPUTERS BY THE TIME YOU, UH, BY THE TIME YOU OPEN IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S OLD.
IT'S ALREADY STARTING, SO, UM, APPRECIATE IT.
HOW, HOW IS THIS NEW MILL LAST? UM, HOPEFULLY IF EVERYTHING STAYS INTACT UNDERNEATH AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROBLEMS, UM, UPWARDS OF 10 TO 15 YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S, HOW, WELL HOW BAD THE STREET WAS BEFORE.
AND THEN WHEN WE PUT THE, THE NEW PRODUCT ON, UM, WHEN WE PUT THE NEW PRODUCT ON AND WHEN WE, UM, THE, THE NEW PRODUCT HA FIVE OR, OR HJ YEAH.
UM, SO THAT WOULD EXTEND THAT EVEN, UM, 5, 7, 8 MORE YEARS.
THEY CAN'T USE THAT AS A TOP LAYER AND JUST SEAL THE NEW STUFF YEAH.
UM, WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME RESEARCH DONE TO DOING THAT REALLY QUICK.
UM, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OIL ON THE TOP RIGHT? NO, THAT'S TRUE.
UM, YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OF THE OIL ON THE TOP.
THERE'S NOTHING FOR IT TO ABSORB INTO.
UM, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PAINTING, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE LAYER BELOW IT TO DRY TO, TO PUT ON A NEW LAYER.
SO GETTING INTO PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX AND MAPS, UH, THIS IS A VIEW NOT OF IT AS IT IS, UH, NOT AS IS TODAY.
UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT WAS MEASURED AS IN 2022.
UM, WHEN WE GO AND COMPUTATIONALLY, UM, GO AND ACCELERATE TO CURRENT DAY, IF NO WORK HAD BEEN DONE SINCE THEN, THIS IS NO WORK HAD BEEN DONE ON ANY OF OUR STREETS.
YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE DEGRADATION ON A LOT OF JUST OVER THREE YEARS.
UM, THE, THE COMPUTER WANTS TO TAKE AWAY ABOUT TWO PCI POINTS ON A GOOD, ON AN AVERAGE ROAD EVERY YEAR WITH NO OUTSIDE, NO WATER PROBLEMS, NO ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS THEN CALCULATED DEGRADATION.
SINCE THEN, IF NO WORK HAD BEEN DONE SINCE 2022, THIS IS THE 2022 OR 2025 CALCULATED, YOU'LL SEE THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAW A SECOND AGO IS NOW KIND OF FADED.
AND THIS NEW GREEN, WHETHER IT'S THE DARK OR THE LIGHT, IS PROJECTS WE HAVE DONE SINCE 2022.
SO NOT ALL OF THESE RED TO GREEN WERE DONE THIS YEAR.
UM, SUCH AS, UH, THE, THE DARK GREEN DOWN BY THE HOSPITAL AREA IN THE LOWER RIGHT, IT WAS A, UH, RECONSTRUCTION IN 2023.
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GOTCHA.SO, UM, SOME OF THE DARKER GREEN IS WHERE WE'VE DONE, UH, ON THE PROJECTS IS WHERE WE'VE DONE MORE SUBSTANTIAL RECONSTRUCTIONS.
THE, UH, THE LIGHTER GREEN, UM, IS, UH, EITHER MILL AND OVERLAYS OR, UH, HA FIVE OR OTHER, UM, PROCESSES.
UM, THIS IS BREAKING OUT BOTH CONCRETE AND ASPHALT SECTIONS IN THE, UH, IN THE CITY AND LOOKING AT KIND OF HOW WE, UM, HOW WE'RE DOING, UM, BECAUSE THE TWO DIFFERENT MATERIALS DEFINITELY BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, A UH, FAIR OR A MARGINAL IN ASPHALT WILL LOOK DEFINITELY DIFFERENT THAN A CONCRETE.
UM, SOME OF THESE AREAS, PRIMARILY THE AREAS YOU SEE WITH MANY ORANGE AND RED SECTIONS IN ASPHALT IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY ARE WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO WORK FOR SOME TIME BECAUSE WE WERE EITHER PLANNING OR DOING UTILITY WORK.
AND THOSE ARE THE SECTIONS THAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING TO BE NEXT.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE, WE HAVE LITTLE ONE-OFFS, UH, KIND OF ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, OF OUR CITY, BUT THEN, UH, STILL SOUTH SIDE STILL NEEDS A LOT OF THAT ATTENTION.
SO, UM, AND, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THAT FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, GETTING ALL THOSE UTILITY WORKS IN.
SO IT'LL BE GOOD TO SEE, GOOD TO SEE THOSE, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR APPROACH AFTER WE DID THAT APPROACH DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE ACTUALLY, UM, FINANCED THESE PROJECTS AND GOT REALLY AGGRESSIVE IN TACKLING IT, THAT THE CITY'S LOOKING A LOT BETTER IN TERMS OF OUR ROADS, UM, THAN WHAT IT DID PREVIOUSLY.
AND, UH, NOW, NOW WE HAVE THE TASK OF STAYING ON TOP OF IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE TASK AHEAD OF US, SO GET BETTER, NOT WORSE.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, UM, ABOUT 50% OF MY COMMUTE HOME WHEN I LEAVE HERE, UM, 50% OF THE TIME I TAKE CITY STREETS FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES HOME THROUGH SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, REALLY.
AND I WILL SAY, FROM WHAT I SEE, WE ARE ABOVE AVERAGE.
I WOULD, I, I WOULD SECOND THAT.
FROM, FROM WHERE I'VE DRIVEN AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR JOE? WHERE WE GOT 'EM UP HERE? ALRIGHT.
UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED THE FOUR B FINANCIAL STATUS REPORT AS OF MAY 31ST, 2025, GIVE YOU ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KAREN RICKS.
I GUESS I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY DIRECTORS, PRESIDENT AND DIRECTORS VERSUS MAYOR AND COUNCIL
SO TONIGHT'S UH, REPORT IS THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2025.
WHEN WE PUT THE PACKET TOGETHER, WE HAD NOT CLOSED JUNE YET, SO THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BUT IT IS AS OF MAY 31ST.
UM, SO JUST HIGH LEVEL, UM, SALES TAX REVENUE FOR MAY WAS A LITTLE OVER 384,000, WHICH IS 300, UH, 3.13% HIGHER THAN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
UM, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT, UH, SALES TAX RIGHT NOW IS IT'S KIND OF BEEN CHALLENGING TO PREDICT TYPICALLY, AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN BUDGET HOW WE'RE GONNA PREDICT FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT SALES TAXES KIND OF SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND SOME MONTHS ARE HIGH AND SOME MONTHS ARE LOW.
AND SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE WE'RE ONLY 3.13% OVER MAY OF LAST YEAR, BUT YEAR TO DATE WE'RE 2.7% HIGHER THAN THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO NOT AS HIGH AS WE HAD BEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT WE'RE STILL ON A POSITIVE TRA TRAJECTORY.
UM, AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON OUR INTEREST INCOME, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME I CAN GET UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND JUST WHAT A PHENOMENAL JOB HE'S DONE, HE'S REALLY DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO.
AND SO YEAR TO DATE, UH, INTEREST EARNINGS FOR FOUR B IS 179,000, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET'S 196,000, SO WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO ACHIEVING THAT.
AND WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL MONTHS LEFT IN THE YEAR, UH, YEAR TO DATE EXPENSES, WE'RE SITTING AT 1.8 MILLION.
UM, NOW ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD SLATED THIS YEAR IS THE GREGORY COURT EDITION, WHICH WAS 2.8 MILLION.
UM, AND YOU'LL NOTICE LATER ON WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, THAT'S NOT BEING BID UNTIL AUGUST.
SO ACTUALLY WE'RE ROLLING THAT BUDGET INTO THE NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
SO YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE MUCH MORE EXPENSES COMING OUTTA THAT CAPITAL OUTLAY LINE ITEM.
UM, THE CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT'S THERE IS A ROLLOVER FROM PHYLLIS STREET.
EXPENSES FROM THE PRIOR YIELD YEAR, UM, AS WELL AS SOME EXPENSES RELATED TO THE BEDFORD ROAD DESIGN, UH, GRANT PROJECT THAT WAS KIND OF A, A A, WE WERE UP AGAINST A REALLY TIGHT DEADLINE, SO WE THOUGHT WE HAD SOME FUNDS IN HERE TO COVER THE DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE YEAR TO DATE ON REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HOW FAR? UH, SO WE'RE WHAT, TWO MONTHS BEHIND IN SALES TAX? TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
SO THAT'S, AND THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE CASE EVERY TIME WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS IT'S ALWAYS YES, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE LIKE THAT.
BUT NOTHING CONCERNED YOU AS OF AS OF RIGHT NOW? NOT RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WOULD OF COURSE LIKE TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
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I WILL TELL YOU, AND WE'RE JUMPING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD.THE JUNE SALES TAX THAT CAME IN DID HAVE KIND OF AN, AN INTERESTING AUDIT ADJUSTMENT THAT I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.
UM, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH A COMPTROLLER TO GET THOSE FUNDS BACK.
AND THEN WE'LL DO A PAYBACK PERIOD SO THAT THOSE FUNDS DON'T ATTACK ATTACK.
UM, DOESN'T HIT OUR BUDGET ALL AT ONCE.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT PAPERWORK TO WORK WITH THE COMPTROLLER YET, BUT IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING SALES TAX YEAR.
WE'RE NOT NEGATIVE, BUT WE'RE NOT AS POSITIVE AS I WOULD PREFER WE BE.
AT LEAST WE'RE, AT LEAST WE'RE NOT IN THE NEGATIVE.
WE'RE STILL SEEING GROWTH THOUGH OVERALL, WE'RE STILL SEEING SOME GROWTH, A LITTLE BIT OF SLOWING DOWN, BUT WE'RE STILL SEEING SOME GROWTH.
AND JUST TO JUMP IN MAYOR ON THAT, JUST TO, UM, WE DO MONITOR OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES YES.
AND SO WE ARE NOT AN ANOMALY IN THAT AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S REGIONWIDE, IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH ALL OF US AND OUR NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.
THEY'LL BE UP AND DOWN ONE MONTH, UH, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE SAME AS WE ARE.
AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT A TREND THAT WE CAN REALLY TRACK, PREDICT OR MONITOR
AND I DON'T KNOW IF FOLKS ARE JUST, IF IT'S EXPENDABLE INCOME, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE JUST NOT SPENDING LIKE THEY USED TO.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT, JUST THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, FOR THE CONSUMERS AND, AND, AND REPORTS THAT I'M SEEING IS THAT IT'S SLOWING DOWN.
PEOPLE ARE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH ON SERVICES, THEY'RE NOT SPENDING ON ON OTHER THINGS.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA SEE MORE IN THE, YOU KNOW, LEADING UP TO, UH, DECEMBER AND SOME OF THE OTHERS.
SO, UM, AND, AND THE, THE INCREASE THAT WE'RE SEEING ALSO HAS TO DO WITH INFLATION.
YOU KNOW, AS PRICES GO UP, SO DOES THE SALES TAX.
AND SO WE SEE, SEE THAT INCREASE AS WELL.
UM, AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT AN OUTLIER.
UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS GO.
AND, AND I, FROM YOUR TIME BEING HERE, UM, KAREN, HAVE, HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT ABOUT OUR CITIES THAT WE'RE SALES TAX KIND OF FLUCTUATES? ARE YOU SEEING THAT OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS? SALES TAX HAS SLOWED DOWN COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.
WHEN WE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE AND NOW GRANTED WE WERE COMPARING OURSELVES TO 2020 AND 2021.
WHICH IS, YOU ALMOST SHOULDN'T EVEN COMPARE YOURSELVES TO THAT.
BUT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, 10% HIGHER THAN WE WERE THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO THIS TO ME IS PROBABLY MORE TYPICAL BASED ON, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE WE ARE, UM, AND WHAT OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE EXPERIENCING AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAREN OVER WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW? ALRIGHT.
NEXT UP, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26 BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BUDGET.
I HAD TO GO GRAB MY OTHER NOTES.
SO YOU GET TO NOW WE GET TO TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR.
UM, AND FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING FLEXIBLE.
YOU KNOW, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE HAD TO PUSH OUR FOUR B MEETING INTO AUGUST.
WELL, AT THAT POINT WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO COUNCIL.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO GET BEFORE YOU GUYS, UH, EARLY JULY SO THAT WHEN WE GO BEFORE COUNCIL WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN IT SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.
UM, I DO WANT TO PREFACE THOUGH, UM, THE SALES TAX NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IN FRONT OF YOU, THEY COULD CHANGE.
UH, WE WILL GET SALES TAX NUMBERS AGAIN NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT TREND LINE, THAT SALES TAX NUMBERS COULD CHANGE GOING WHAT'S INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 25 26.
BUT WE'LL STICK WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, UM, WE PREDICTED 2% VERY CONSERVATIVELY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND THEN 2% OVER THAT FOR GOING INTO 25 26 FOR SALES TAX.
WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUE, I WOULD BE INCREDIBLY CONSERVATIVE AND COME IN HIGHER THAN WHAT OUR BUDGET IS VERSUS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, NOT SO CONSERVATIVE AND THEN COMING IN LOWER ON THE REVENUE.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE APPROACH THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS.
KIND OF THE SAME THING WITH INTEREST INCOME.
YOU KNOW, I JUST GAVE YOU INTEREST EARNINGS THROUGH MAY, UM, AND WE'RE SAYING, WELL, WE WANNA BE CONSERVATIVE.
AND SO WE ARE ONLY BUDGETING 175,000 FOR INTEREST EARNINGS FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE FOUR B BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
UM, IT, WE CARRIED PRETTY MUCH THOSE EXPENSES OVER EVERY YEAR.
YOU KNOW, JOE TALKED ABOUT THE ASPHALT CONTRACT AND THE PAVING CONTRACT THAT'S IN THAT CONTRACTUAL SERVICES LINE ITEM, WHICH IS 2.1 SUPPLIES IS PRETTY TYPICAL AND I'LL GET TO WHAT THE ASTERISK MEAN IN JUST A SECOND.
UM, MAINTENANCE IS THE SAME THING.
THAT'S GONNA BE OUR, UM, STREET MAIN OR UM, SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, SIGNAL MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, DEBT SERVICE, YOU KNOW, IN 2021, THE FOUR B AUTHORIZED THAT DEBT ISSUANCE AND THAT'S THE INTEREST, UH, PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST PAYMENT.
UM, AND THEN THAT ALSO DOES INCLUDE A TRANSFER TO, UH, OUR ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PAID FOR OUT OF THE FOUR B FUND.
COUPLE YEARS AGO WE UM, SUSPENDED
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THE $250,000 TRANSFER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND TO ALLOW THIS FUND TO GROW.AND WE DID THAT ONE MORE YEAR.
SHOULD HAVE JUST BROUGHT EVERYTHING UP HERE WITH ME.
UM, SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND IS LOOKING STILL PRETTY GOOD.
THEY ARE, UM, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE 1.1 MILLION IN THAT FUND AT THE END OF 25.
SO WE WANTED TO HOLD OFF ON THAT TRANSFER ONE MORE YEAR AND ALLOW THE FOUR B FUND TO GROW.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYOR LAST YEAR YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY.
AND SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY RIGHT NOW FOR DEBT.
SO IF WE CAN ALLOW THAT FUND BALANCE TO GROW YES.
THEN THAT'LL GIVE US SOME ROOM FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO THAT, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT REASONING EXACTLY.
UM, AND FROM THAT, FROM THAT ORIGINAL BOND IN 2021, WE'VE COMPLETELY USED THAT UP.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE 492,000 IN INTEREST EARNINGS, ABOUT 545,000 IN UNALLOCATED BOND FUNDS.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME, WE'VE GOT 845,000 LEFT ON THE REYNOLDS CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 23 AND 151,000 THAT WAS APPROVED ON THE MANNING CONTRACT IN 24.
SO WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 2 MILLION.
AND SO IT IS FULLY OUR EXPECTATION TO UTILIZE, UTILIZE THAT ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS REQUESTED TO GO INTO THE FOUR B BUDGET THIS YEAR ARE THREE ONGOING ITEMS. SO THEY WANNA DO A STOP SIGN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS $8,100, AND THAT IS $8,100 FOR FIVE YEARS TO REPLACE EVERY STOP SIGN IN THE CITY.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'LL BE ON A 10 YEAR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND BUILT THAT INTO THE BUDGET UNDER, UM, THE, IS GOING TO BE UNDER SUPPLIES AND ALSO STREET SIGN REPLACEMENT.
SAME PROGRAM, REPLACE EVERY STREET SIGN OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT WILL BE 10 YEARS AFTER THAT.
UM, AND THOSE ARE BOTH BUILT INTO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS TRAFFIC SIGNAL BATTERY REPLACEMENTS, WHICH IS $7,200.
AND WE JUST BUILT THAT INTO THE ONGOING BUDGET AS WELL.
HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? UH, THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC WORKS QUESTION.
AND THEN SO NOW WE'RE, WE'RE SWITCHING TO, UM, SO OUR STREET SIGNS, WE'RE SWITCHING, SWITCHING THOSE OUT.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT ON A SYSTEM NOW.
SO REPLACE THEM AND THEN REPLACE THEM EVERY 10 YEARS.
SO THE, BOTH THE STOP SIGNS AND THE STREET SIGNS CURRENTLY WOULD COME OUT OF A TOTAL OF $8,000 A YEAR, UM, IN THE EXISTING BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.
UM, WE ARE TRYING TO EARMARK THESE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE DONE ON A SCHEDULE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SOME OF OUR, UH, STOP SIGNS ARE NEARING THEIR EXPECTED LIFE.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA SET UP A 10 YEAR REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND HAVE SOME OF THOSE BE 18 OR 20 YEARS BY THE TIME WE GOT AROUND TO 'EM.
SO THAT'S THE REASONING FOR THE, FOR THE ACCELERATED UPFRONT.
WE GET EVERYTHING A LITTLE BIT FRESHER AND THEN WE MOVE INTO A MORE MANAGEABLE MAINTENANCE CYCLE.
UM, THE STREET SIGNS ARE THE STREET NAME SIGNS.
SO THE, THE REASON WE HAVE ABOUT THREE TIMES AS MANY OF THOSE, UM, AND THEY ARE BASICALLY A ONE-OFF CUSTOM.
YOU MAY HAVE, I THINK OF MOST RESIDENTIAL STREETS, YOU MAY HAVE TWO OR THREE SIGNS WITH THE SAME NAME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE A STOP SIGN THAT EVERYONE IS BUYING AND IT'S A PIECE OFF THE SHELF.
THEY'RE ALL CUSTOM, SO THEY COST CONSIDERABLY MORE.
AND THEY WILL ALL LOOK THE SAME AS CURRENTLY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? CORRECT.
YEAH, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE CLARIFICATION WITH DESIGNATION AND STREET NAME AND LANE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, FOR MORE IT'S ALL GONNA LOOK SAME.
SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SEAMLESS.
AS TO IF YOU WERE AN EYE AS SOON AS IT'S, AS SOON AS LIKE IF I WAS DRIVING BY, I WON'T, YOU KNOW, IT WILL LOOK NICER OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT WON'T BE, UM, JARRING TO SOMEBODY.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HIT IT YET.
UH, THE ONE-TIME CAPITAL ITEMS. YES.
SO, UH, I SEE ON HERE SIDEWALK CONDITION SURVEY AND A PAVEMENT.
OBVIOUSLY THE PCI, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, LAST TIME WE DID PCI WAS IN 2022.
AND SO WE'RE DOING THIS, UH, I GUESS GOING FORWARD EVERY FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.
SO STARTING IT ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
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THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL GIVE US THE DATA TO START PLANNING 27.IT'S NINE OR 10 MONTH DELAY FROM WHEN THEY DO THE ACTUAL SURVEY TO WHEN WE GET USABLE DATA OUT OF IT.
SO, SO GOING FORWARD THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT PREDICTABILITY, SCHEDULING, MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING UP ON EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT OUR SCORES ARE UP TO DATE.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S RECOMMENDED WE DO EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AS, AS WE SHOWED IN THE MAPS THERE, THEY'RE ALL CALCULATED, UM, UM, DETERIORATION SINCE 2022.
UM, THIS WILL GIVE US A KIND OF A CALIBRATION POINT OF IF USING THE SAME METHOD, SAME MM-HMM.
CONSULTANT, WE COME ANYWHERE NEAR THAT OR WE'RE HIGHER IN SOME PARTS, LOWER IN SOME SORTS, AND WE CAN TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHY.
AND THEN THE SIDEWALK CONDITION SURVEY.
UM, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS DONE? NEVER.
UM, SO THIS IS WELL WAY OVERDUE.
UM, AND, UH, I, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, HOW OFTEN WE'RE GONNA WANT TO DO THIS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE IDEA IS PUTTING THIS ALSO ON A ONGOING SCHEDULE SO WE KNOW WHAT OUR SIDEWALKS ARE, WHAT THE CONDITION IS, AND WHERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF A PRELIMINARY NUMBER GOING FORWARD, OR WE'RE WAITING UNTIL WE GET THAT DONE FIRST WE'LL GET FOR REPLACEMENTS OR REPLACEMENT, NOT REPLACEMENT.
WHEN WE DO THESE SURVEYS, UM, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING LESS FREQUENT YEAH.
UM, BUT NOT SURE IF THAT IS IN A SEVEN RANGE OR 10 RANGE OR IF WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN OR IF THIS JUST NEEDS TO GIVE US A BASE POINT TO START WITH.
SO WE'LL GET THIS DONE FIRST AND THEN LET'S SEE WHERE WE'RE AT FROM THERE.
SO SIDEWALKS ARE ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE.
WILL THIS HELP US WITH ANY OF THAT? LIKE, SO THAT WE'VE GOT THAT PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO BRING IN SIGNATURES AND ALL THAT? RIGHT.
WILL THAT HELP SAY, THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
WE CANNOT DO A SIDEWALK HERE, SO DON'T EVEN BOTHER.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT.
UM, THIS, THE, THE SURVEY, THIS SURVEY IS CONDITION SURVEY FOR THE EXISTING WHERE WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAYBE TOUCH UP OR REPAIR OR REPLACE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, A NEW SIMPLER FORM.
UM, THAT COMMUNICATIONS WILL BE BRINGING YOU OUT SHORTLY FOR THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND BE ABLE TO JUST SAY, HERE'S WHERE I WANT SIDEWALK.
YES, THE ORDINANCE IS LISTED ABOVE AND LINKED AND EVERYTHING.
THEY CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, BUT THEY CAN GO AND CLICK AND SHOW US WHERE AND GIVE A LITTLE DESCRIPTION, GIVE US SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT PRIMARILY BEFORE THEY PUT IN A BUNCH OF EFFORT TO JUST GET A NO.
UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH AND, AND LOOK AT THAT CRITERIA IN THE ORDINANCE OF, IT DOESN'T MEET THIS, IT DOESN'T MEET THIS, IT DOESN'T MEET THAT, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO, IT'S STILL GONNA COST YOU X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS BECAUSE, OR IT WOULD COST THE CITY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, OR WE NEED, UH, WE NEED TO BUILD RETAINING WALLS WITH IT.
OR IT WOULD TAKE OUT TREES OR THOSE KIND OF OPTIONS, BUT IT'LL BE AN EASIER UPFRONT SO THAT THEY JUST DON'T GO AND PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT FOR IT TO BE A NO.
'CAUSE I THINK, I THINK WE'RE ALL, WE, IT JUST, IT'S HARD SEEING PEOPLE COME UP HERE WITH, UH, THEIR PETITIONS AND FOR SIDEWALKS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST, YOU KNOW YEAH.
DIDN'T HAVE, DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT TO, TO DO JUST, JUST A SMALL SECTION, UH, FOR THAT WHEN WE CAN GET A BUNCH OF ROADS DONE, UM, FOR, FOR AFFECTION THAT COST.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT GONNA GET FALSE.
HOPE WE HAVE SOME PIC I THINK SO WE DO HAVE, UH, SO THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A SUMMARY SLIDE WITH THE FINANCIAL STUFF AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF FOLLOWING SLIDES THAT MAYBE WE GO IN AND GET TO THOSE DETAILS.
I THINK IT'S, I DID WANNA POINT OUT ONE THING.
UM, SO THIS FUND HAS A FUND BALANCE POLICY THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A MINIMUM FUND BALANCE OF ONE TIMES THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 660,000.
SO IF, IF YOU APPROVE EVERYTHING AND COUNCIL APPROVES EVERYTHING, EVEN THE ONE TIMES WE'RE WELL WITHIN THAT FUND BALANCE POLICY, WE'LL END WITH 4.9 MILLION IN THIS FUND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS KNOWN.
BEFORE I GET TO THE ANSWER OF THE ASPHALT DRAG BOX, WE DO HAVE THE TYPICAL CIP STUFF TO RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK, AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE FINAL SLIDES.
UM, THE WEST PIPELINE ROAD, UM, JUST SHOWING AS IT'S CONTINUING, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT, UH, GREGORY AND BEDFORD'S ADDITIONS COMING UP STARTING SOON.
UH, BROWN TRAIL ALSO WILL CONTINUE DESIGN THROUGH MOST OF THE YEAR.
UM, WHETHER THIS IS 26 FISCAL YEAR, 27 FISCAL YEAR IS, UH, UM,
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UP FOR GRABS CURRENTLY.UM, NOT ONLY IS THE CIP STUFF WHERE WE HAVE BROWN TRAIL AND THE GREAT GREEN BEDFORD EDITIONS, BUT ON THIS MAP HAS, UM, WHERE WE WOULD GO FOR OUR NEXT YEAR'S, UM, UH, MILL OVERLAY AND FULL DEPTH ASPHALT, UH, ASPHALT REPLACEMENTS THAT WE DO WITH, UH, WITH REYNOLDS ASPHALT TYPICALLY, UM, OR WE HAVE IN THE PAST MANY YEARS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SHADED PORTION THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE.
THOSE ARE THOSE NOT THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION, BUT THE SHADED PORTION RIGHT BESIDE IT.
YEAH, THE, UH, THE, THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT'S THE RECENT PROJECTS.
AGAIN, SAME MAP AS YOU SAW BEFORE.
THE THREE POLYGON SHAPES AT THE SOUTH END ARE, ARE THESE THREE MAIN PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
UM, IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT, BUT THERE ARE OVER, UM, SOMETHING NEAR 10 MILES OF STREETS DOWN IN THAT OVERLAY AREA WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU CONSIDER EACH STREET GOING BACK AND FORTH AND CURVES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, THIS IS WHERE I TALKED ABOUT MAYBE USING THE H HA FIVE MONEY THAT THE $400,000 OUT OF THAT 2.1 MILLION, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR HA FIVE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BIG CLUMP OF STREETS THAT ARE, UM, IN THAT LIGHT GREEN RANGE, UM, TO USE THAT ON.
WE'RE GONNA GO AND ACCELERATE A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR MILL AND OVERLAY WORK, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET A FULL NEIGHBORHOOD DONE.
THAT'S A ABSOLUTELY A BIG AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN MESSING WITH FOR UTILITIES IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
AND IF WE DIDN'T, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY OF BREAKING IT UP AND WE'RE GONNA GET ALL KINDS OF, WHY'D YOU DO THEIR STREET? ON MY STREET? YEP.
SO SINCE THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY COMPLETED, WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND DO THAT.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 2026 FOR THAT.
SO NEXT YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR THROUGH BUDGET, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THAT PROJECT IN OUR CORRECT.
SO MOVING ON, FUTURE PROJECT PLANNING.
YOU CAN SEE FY 26 IS DOWN IN THAT SOUTHERN END.
UM, I DIDN'T LABEL ANY, 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN IDEA.
UM, IF WE CONTINUED TO USE, UM, THE H HA FIVE MONEY FOR MILL AND OVERLAYS AND WE USED, UH, THE COUNTY, UM, IN A BIGGER ASPECT THAN WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY.
THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE COULD DO, IS IT FIVE OR SIX YEARS SHOWN? UM, IF WE, YEAH, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY CODE FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
PURPLE TO FUSIA WOULD BE MAYBE 27.
UH, STILL TRYING TO GET IN FINISHING THE, THE SOUTH END.
THEN WE GO TO THE LILAC OR YELLOW OR LIGHT PINK OR WHATEVER.
UM, THERE'S NO REAL ORDER BEEN DETERMINED THERE, BUT IF THAT'S FIVE YEARS.
UM, AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO MILL AND OVERLAYS IN THIS PACE YES.
UM, THAT'S 33 YEARS BEFORE WE GET ALL OF THEM DONE.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A LONG-TERM BUDGETING KIND OF THING.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO MAYBE PUT SOME MORE MONEY AT AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A, THIS FISCAL CYCLE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE IT'S, LET'S SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND THEN WE CAN ACCELERATE IF WE NEED TO ACCELERATE AND, AND YEAH.
GET IT ON A PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A LOT THERE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETS.
WHEN YOU SAY COUNTY INVOLVEMENT, UM, WHAT, SO THIS IS THE COUNTY PAVEMENT CREW THAT WE USE FOR THE, FOR THE DISCOUNT OVER, UM, USING, BECAUSE I BELIEVE ALL BECAUSE CCB BGI THINK WE'RE ALL, I DON'T AWARE THAT THAT THAT'S GOING AWAY.
UM, SO AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, SO THE CDBG OF OUR, I FORGET WHAT THE BUDGET ON THE LAST FUNDS OR PROJECTS WERE, BUT THEY WERE ALL 1.2, 2.1, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO IT IS A VERY SMALL FRACTION OF THAT.
MANY CITIES USE THEM FOR OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS WHERE IT'S NOT SUCH A SMALL FRACTION.
UM, WE END UP HAVING TO PAY THE COUNTY TO PAY THE CONTRACTOR.
UM, AND THEN WHEN THERE'S A BUDGET OVER UNDERRUN OR SOMETHING AND WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPEND THAT, WE'VE ALREADY PAID THE COUNTY, SO THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THE MONEY BACK.
UM, SO IT MAY BE SUCH A BIG PROJECT WHERE THEIR PARTICIPATION IS SO SMALL, MAY NOT BE THE BEST USE AND WE CAN RETARGET THOSE IF THEY CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE.
SIDEWALK LOCATIONS, SO THIS IS KIND OF TYING INTO THE SIDEWALK, UM, STUDY, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND.
UM, SIDEWALK LOCATIONS, IF YOU LOOK AT PURPLE LINES, THESE ARE EXISTING SIDEWALKS.
SORRY, I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT AND I FORGOT.
UM, SO WE, WE DID ADD THIS AS OF A DISCUSSION IN OUR STAFF CIP MEETING THIS MORNING.
UM, 'CAUSE IT WAS SHOWN AS PART OF ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, SO, SO THIS IS NOT IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, WE DID ADD, UH, SO PURPLE HERE
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IS EXISTING SIDEWALK.THE YELLOW, UH, THE BUBBLES ARE, UH, WITHIN 800 FEET OF A SCHOOL OR PARK OR SIMILAR FACILITY.
THE YELLOW AND RED ARE THEN WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALK AND YELLOW AND RED JUST MEANS IF YOU'RE IN THAT BUBBLE OR NOT RED BEAN IN THE BUBBLE, THE GREEN ARE THE CITY TRAILS AND, UH, AND SIDEWALKS WITHIN PARKS FACILITIES.
WE, THE, THE 800 IS SIGNIFICANT FOR SOUTH, UM, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES MM-HMM
THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO SEEK FOR THESE PROJECTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF GRANTS FOR THOSE, UH, THAT ARE NEAR THE SCHOOLS.
SO THAT, THAT DOES COVER QUITE A BIT.
BUT THIS DOESN'T GO INTO ANY KIND OF AN ACCOUNT OF, UM, IF JUST RANDOMLY THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE, IF SIDEWALK COSTS $10 A A FOOT TO MAKE, UM, WOULD THIS, WOULD THAT STREET ACTUALLY COST US LIKE A HUNDRED BECAUSE EITHER UTILITIES OR TREES YES.
OR RETAINING WALLS OR ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.
OR WERE, OR PUT PROPERLY PUT A SIDEWALK IN, YOU WOULD BE TAKING OUT THE MIDDLE THIRD OF SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY.
UM, THAT, UH, THAT WOULD THEN ELIMINATE, ELIMINATE OR LIMIT ANY DRIVEWAY PARKING FOR THAT HOUSE.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T, UH, IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT ANY FACTORS OTHER THAN IS IT THERE OR IS IT NOT THERE? GOT IT.
UH, SO PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND SIDEWALK CONDITION INDEX, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO VEHICLES.
THE, UH, GOLF CART OF COURSE IS FOR THE SIDEWALK CONDITION INDEX, WHICH IS THE SAME SENSORS AS ON THE VAN FOR THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
UM, THE, UM, IN THE BUDGET, UH, SHEET A LITTLE BIT AGO IT SAID 115, UM, THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
IF WE DO IT TOGETHER AND AUTHORIZE THEM AS THE SAME CONTRACT THROUGH COUNCIL, THERE'LL BE SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS OF SOMETHING LIKE 20%.
UM, SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE THE CONDITION OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS IS WHAT WE GET IN THE, THE SIDEWALK CONDITION INDEX.
WE ALREADY HAVE THROUGH OUR GIS ANALYST, UM, HAVE COLLECTED JUST BASED ON SATELLITE WHERE SIDEWALK IS AND NOT, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD PUT IN THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES IS POTENTIALLY STARTING A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND SOME ORDINANCE UPDATES RELATED TO IT.
UM, THAT THIS WOULD BE EVERYTHING BETWEEN SPEED LIMITS AND THOROUGHFARE DESIGNATION AND UM, COMMERCIAL AND HAZMAT TRUCK ROUTES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLANS, TYPICALLY, WHERE DO WE WANT THE BIG THOROUGHFARES TO BE BUILT? WE'RE KIND OF PAST THAT POINT.
SO IT'S HOW DO, HOW DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE THEM, DOCUMENT THEM IF THERE'S CERTAIN FUNDING SOURCES FOR IF IT'S A THOROUGHFARE OR IF IT'S A CONNECTED ARTILLERY ART INTERIOR.
WE'LL, WE WILL LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND, AND REVIEW SPEED LIMITS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF CONDITION THINGS TOO.
HAS THAT EVER BEEN DONE HERE? UM, WE, UM, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME VERY OLD YEAH.
WE'VE PIECEMEALED IN THE PAST, BUT NEVER KIND LIKE MASTER PLAN.
AND, AND, AND SOME OF THIS, SOME OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THIS DOCUMENT AND EFFORT WOULD BE TO, UM, TO MAYBE APPLY SOME OF THE CONCEPTS FROM OUR, UM, AND I'M TOTALLY FORGETTING THE NAME COMP PLAN.
UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, THE, THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE THERE, UM, WILL GO AND LOOK AT, WELL, HOW DOES THAT APPLY IF WE HAVE LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE OF THIS AREA AND THAT AREA.
UM, HOW, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE GO AND TAKE A PRACTICAL LOOK AT THE CONCEPTS AND THE UM, THE IMAGERY AND VISUALS THAT ARE IN THE COMP PLAN.
UM, AND MAYBE TAKE, UH, AND THEN IDENTIFY WHERE MAYBE SOME AREAS WOULD BE EASIER, COUNCIL MEMBER SABLE.
SO, UM, WOULD THIS ALLOW US TO SAY WE DON'T WANT CENTRAL TO BE A THOROUGHFARE ANYMORE, OR WE DON'T WANT FOREST RIDGE TO BE A THOROUGHFARE FOR TRUCKS? UM, PART OF THIS WOULD BE, UM, UPDATING THE ORDINANCE WITH THE COMMERCIAL ROUTES.
UM, OUR ORDINANCE FOR COMMERCIAL ROUTES WAS LAST UPDATED IN 1969.
SO THAT IS DEFINITELY ON THE TO-DO LIST AS WE JUST FIGURED THAT OUT RECENTLY.
UM, SO WE COULD CORRECT, SO WE COULD SAY NO LONGER, YOU NO LONGER CAN TRAVEL WITH AN 18 WHEELER DOWN CENTRAL.
YOU COULD SAY THAT YES, YOU COULD.
UH, THE CITY COUNCIL COULD PASS ORDINANCES FOR
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THOSE THINGS.UM, WE HAVE TO TAKE A VERY, UM, PRACTICAL VIEW AT SOME PLACES OF, OF WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO ALLOW SOME CIRCULATION OF THE VEHICLES.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT WHEN IT GETS INTO REALLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SO LIKE I HARWOOD'S FINE, BUT WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO GO MUCH NORTH OF, UH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO PAST COMMONS.
THERE'S NOTHING NORTH THAT WAY.
AND YOU RUN INTO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
AND MY ARGUMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT, WELL, WE HAVE LOTS OF SPEEDERS ON FOREST RIDGE AND ON CENTRAL, SO WHY ALLOW COMMERCIAL TRUCKS TO GO DOWN THERE TOO AND MAKE LOTS OF NOISE.
UM, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT THIS? JUST STAFF ONLY OR WOULD YOU HAVE CITIZEN INPUTS OR, UM, FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO GET SOME, UH, AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WORKS IN THE SPACE AND BASICALLY KIND OF PLAN OUT WHAT STEPS AND WHAT DETAILS WOULD BE IN A PLAN.
AND THEN COME TO COUNCIL WITH THOSE OPTIONS.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT EITHER WITHIN STAFF OR, UH, CONSULTANT WHAT'S, WHAT'S NECESSARY.
WELL, I WAS WOULD IT BE A P AND C OP OPTION OR WOULD IT BE ANOTHER COMMITTEE? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE'VE GOTTEN REALLY INTO DETAILS THERE.
'CAUSE P AND Z KIND OF THIS KIND OF STREETS KIND OF, WELL, WE DID SOME PART OF THE STREETS IN THE MASTER PLAN.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING AND IF WE'RE GONNA BE LEANING ON THE MASTER PLAN, BUT WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S STEPH'S, WHAT THOUGHTS ON THAT? I, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
I I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AGAIN, THE COMP PLAN AND THE THIRD FLOOR PLAN.
DO A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THIS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
BUT IF WE'RE SIMPLY BUILDING ON IT AGAIN, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER THAT WORKS IN THIS SPACE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON, ON THAT AND, AND CREATING IT.
PART OF THAT, SUPPLIES AND MAINTENANCE LINE ITEMS, UH, THIS IS WHERE STAFF IS DOING THE WORK, BUT THIS IS THE MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT TO UH, UM, WELL NOT NECESSARILY EQUIPMENT, BUT UH, UM, THIS IS WHEN WE'RE DOING THE WORK.
AND SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER, WHETHER IT'S CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.
UM, WHEN WE DO THE WORK, IT'S MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES OR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLIES WHEN WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR DO IT.
IT'S CONTRACTUAL LABOR OR YEAH, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
THIS IS THE SLIDE ABOUT SIGN REPLACEMENT WITH THE, THE THE TWO PROPOSED PROGRAMS. UH, YOU CAN SEE, YES, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SIGNS, UM, JUST FOR THE STREET NAME SIGNS AND THE STOP SIGNS TRYING TO EARMARK AND SET THAT UP AS A REOCCURRING PROGRAM SO THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT IN THREE YEARS AND THEN NOT HAVE GOTTEN ANYWHERE.
UM, SO THIS IS WHERE, UM, THE DRAG BOX? YEAH.
SO A DRAG BOX, UM, AT THE, THE LOWER LEFT IS, UM, A MUCH, IT'S A STEP TOWARDS A PAVER BUT NOT REALLY A PAVER.
UM, YOU CAN FILL THE BOX AND THEN AS YOU DRAG IT, IT LAYS A SMOOTH, UM, CONSISTENT AND UNIFORM THICKNESS OF ASPHALT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WITH OUR PATCH TRUCK THAT WE USE, UM, FOR MUCH LARGER THAN IT WAS EVER INTENDED OR DESIGNED FOR, UM, IF WE DO A FIVE OR EIGHT OR WHATEVER FOOT WIDE, UM, MAYBE A FIVE BY 10 PATCH OR SOMETHING, OUR GUYS ARE, UH, BASICALLY LEVELING THAT WITH SHOVELS.
SO YOU GET THE SMOOTHNESS OF A SHOVEL WIDTH AND A SHOVEL WIDTH AND A SHOVEL WIDTH, AND THEY DO THE BEST JOB THEY CAN.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF MANUAL LABOR AND A LOT OF BACKBREAKING LABOR.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT RUNNING A SCREED LIKE YOU WOULD WITH A DRAG BOX FOR ASPHALT OR A, OR A CONCRETE SCREED.
SO IT'S A, IT'S DOING A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, WORK SMARTER.
UM, AND THE OTHER ITEM ON HERE IS, UH, UM, AS PART OF LOOKING AT RIGHT SIZING THE FLEET, I KNOW WE LIKE TO USE RIGHT SIZING A LOT THESE DAYS.
UM, RIGHT SIZING THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS FLEET.
UM, WE, UM, HAVE, UH, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO SOME SMALLER VEHICLES THAT'LL DO THE MAJORITY OF THE LARGE DUMP TRUCKS WE HAVE.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, UM, LIMITED NUMBER OF UH, CDL DRIVERS IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF VEHICLES THAT WEREN'T BEING USED EVEN WHEN WE HAD FULL STAFF OR, OR BETTER STAFFED.
UM, BUT IF THAT SAME CDL VEHICLE, LARGE DUMP TRUCK COMING DOWN, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES, YOU CAN GET WHERE I'M GOING.
IT'S HARDER TO GET IN AND OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S GOT A TRAILER BEHIND IT OR SOMETHING.
A SMALLER DUMP BED, UH, TRUCK, LIKE WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET IS, UM, MUCH EASIER, MUCH EASILY MANEUVERED INTO THOSE SMALLER AREAS.
UM, AND CAN GET 90% OF OUR JOBS DONE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAYBE, UH, TRANSITION TO THIS CORRECT.
NOT, NOT ELIMINATE OUR LARGE DUMP TRUCKS.
WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE, THE ABILITY
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TO DO LARGE JOBS WHEN WE HAVE TO, ESPECIALLY IN AN EMERGENCY.UM, BUT DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS CAN BE DONE EASIER.
UM, WITH, UH, WITH RIGHT-SIZED EQUIPMENT.
I JUST WANNA, UH, APPLAUD THE, THE THOUGHTS OF LIKE, UM, RECALIBRATING THE, THE SUB TO THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO BETTER ADDRESS AND USE THAT.
I, I THINK THIS IS REALLY SMART.
THIS, THIS WAS A, YEAH, THIS WAS A SMART, SMART MOVE.
UM, THEN HAVING TO USE ALL THAT MANUAL LABOR TO, TO GET IT DONE.
AND THEN THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT, UH, WAY TO GET THIS, GET THIS PROJECTS DONE AND ESPECIALLY IN THOSE NARROW ROADS YOU SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, AND, AND, AND, AND CARS PARKED ON EITHER SIDE.
SO THIS IS A GOOD WAY, UH, AND GOOD WAY GOING FORWARD.
AS WHERE A, A PAVER EVEN WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHAT IT CAN DO IN RADIUSES AND STUFF, A DRAG BOX CAN BE EITHER ATTACHED TO THE BACK OF A DUMP TRUCK OR ON A SKID STEER AND VERY TIGHTLY MANEUVERED INTO SOME OF OUR, UM, I'LL CALL FUNNIER RADIUSES OR CURVES ON SOME OF THE STREETS.
I THINK, UH, WELL THE ASTERISK, THE WHAT? THE ASTERISK OH YEAH.
GOING BACK TO THE ASTERISK, I THINK THAT'S THE
SO WE DO HAVE, IT'S NOT IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND IT'S NOT, UM, IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED YOU TONIGHT, BUT WE, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH YEAR END ESTIMATES FOR THE FOUR B FUND AND LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, WE DO HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU.
UM, AND IF YOU AGREE, THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO COUNCIL AND GET THEIR APPROVAL.
UM, BUT IF YOU NOTICE THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE FOR THIS FUND IS 6.7 MILLION.
SO WE'RE WELL WITHIN THAT FUND BALANCE POLICY, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND FUND THE DUMP TRUCK REPLACEMENT AT 103,000 AND THE ASPHALT DRAG BOX FOR 12,000 OUT OF THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET VERSUS WAITING UNTIL 25, 26 AND PURCHASING THOSE ITEMS. NOW, UM, THE FUND HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, UM, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
WE COULD ABSORB THAT WITHIN THE CURRENT EXISTING BUDGET, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE ROLLING THAT GREGORY EDITION PROJECT INTO 25, 26.
SO I WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T PUT IT ON A SLIDE TO MAKE IT A FULL PROPOSAL, IF YOU AGREE, THEN WE WILL, UM, MAKE THAT, UH, PURCHASE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AND GET THEIR APPROVAL FOR THE DUMP CHECK REPLACEMENT.
YEAH, I'M, I'M, I AM THINK THAT'S A WISE DECISION, ESPECIALLY WE'RE ABOUT TO DO GREGORY EDITION AND, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE USE OF IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF, PLENTY OF FUNDS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNED OVER THERE? YES.
CUSTOMER PARK, MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS, IS THAT ONE OKAY.
THE, THE ELEPHANT FOR THE CITY IS HEB.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL THE ROADS GOING IN FOR US THAT CAN HANDLE THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS AND SERVICES WE'VE GOT GOING AND HAVE, WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED BY COLLEYVILLE TO HELP WITH ANY ADDITIONAL PART OF CHEEKS, BARGER.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT ON BOBBY'S AGENDA OVER THERE IN COLLEYVILLE, UH, SO THE STREETS WITHIN BEDFORD FIRST, UH, ON CHEEKS, BARGER UP AT THAT END ARE, UH, ARE CONCRETE AND THEY'RE, UH, FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION.
THERE ARE SOME, UM, ALTERATIONS, TREND LANES AND SUCH MAY ARE PROPOSED FOR THE HEB STORE.
THEY'LL ALSO, OF COURSE, BE ADDING THE NEW SIGNAL LIGHT THAT'LL BE INTERTI WITH THE ONES ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, UH, THAT ARE BOTH, UH, ALL THREE WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THIS, UH, BY BEDFORD STAFF.
UM, THE STREETS, WELL OF COURSE THAT'S CHEEKS, BARGER, AND, UH, WITHIN CITY OF COLLEYVILLE THERE HAVE BEEN, HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS UP FRONT ABOUT PARTICIPATION, UM, IN THE PROJECT AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS, UH, PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WAS REALISTIC, UM, PART OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT THAT THEY WANTED US TO PAY A THIRD OF THE ROAD, THE ROAD COSTS.
UM, SO, UH, PART OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TO REPLACE THE TRAIL, THE MULTI-USE PATH, THE TRAIL THAT'S THERE.
UM, AND WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IS MAYBE PARTICIPATING IN THAT, UM, IN THAT AMOUNT OR, OR SOMETHING ROUGHLY THERE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE, UM, THE SURVEY, UM, INFORMATION THAT WAS GATHERED RECENTLY, UM, AND TRAFFIC STUDIES GOING ON, UM, UM, THE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONTINUE IN THE NEXT WEEK AND MAYBE EVEN TOMORROW, START DOING SOME FLAGGING OPERATIONS ON CHEEKS, BARGER FOR THEIR GEOTECHNICAL STUDY TO, TO DRILL A COUPLE OF HOLES IN THE ROAD AND TO SEE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH AND HOW MUCH IMPROVEMENT THEY HAVE TO DO.
UM, BUT KIND OF MOST DISCUSSIONS HAVE DIED OUT AS COLLEYVILLE HAS BEEN, UH, DESIGNING, UH, HEAVILY IN DESIGN AND DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY KIND OF A,
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A HEAVY OR, OR VERY DETAILED IDEA OF WHAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE STREET YET.AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE ROAD, WE DO HAVE THE BAR DITCHES ON OUR SIDE, DON'T WE? SO ALL THAT, ALL, ALL THAT, UH, UH, UH, UNDERGROUND AND WATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IS THAT GONNA BE ON US OR IS THAT PART OF THEIR, THEIR PROJECT
I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THEM.
I MEAN, THE LAST CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WAS WE WERE WAITING ON THEM TO FULLY DESIGN OR COME UP WITH WHAT SOME SORT OF PLAN 'CAUSE TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, UH, THEY WERE TRYING TO COME BACK AND ASK US TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WAY OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO COMPLICATE MATTERS.
UH, ALSO THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IS TRA HAS TO DO THEIR, UM, TIE-INS AND THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT BEFORE WE, THEY CAN EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH THE ROADS.
SO WE HAVE TO WAIT ON TRA TO GET THEIR PORTION DONE BEFORE C WILL CAN EVEN BEGIN.
WELL, I JUST DON'T WANT TO THEM JUST KIND OF LEAVE US OUT OF THE MIX AND, AND NOT DO THE RIGHT STUFF ON OUR SIDE.
AND THEN WE HAVE FLOODING FOR OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AGREED.
AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON OUR END.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE ON THAT PORTION.
THE MESSAGE THAT THAT THAT, THAT I CONVEYED WHEN I, I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH, UH, MAYOR LINDA MOOD ABOUT THIS VERY TOPIC AND WE, WE BOTH, YOU KNOW, CAME TO UNDERSTANDING AND HE, THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT BEDFORD WAS ALL FOR, UH, GOING AHEAD AND FUNDING A THIRD OF THIS.
UH, TO WHICH I REPLIED, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY THAT YOU GOT THAT IMPRESSION, BUT, UH, NO, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING THAT.
UM, BUT I DID SAY, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR FUNDING.
WE WILL DO EVERYTHING ON OUR SIDE THAT COMES IN OUR JURISDICTION.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE THAT, UM, THAT WE WILL, WE WILL DO THE TRAIL ON OUR SIDE OR ANYTHING THAT FALLS, UH, IN, IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, OUR JURISDICTION, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF, UM, AND MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
BUT THE REST OF IT, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF IT, UH, IS ALL ON THEM.
AND ALSO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT FALLS ON OUR SIDE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO IF IT'S WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, STREETS, THOSE COME WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES OF WHERE WE WOULD FUND THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS FROM.
I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
WE, WE THINK WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT, UH, HEB SHOULD BRING.
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAIN LEFT AND RIGHT.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING OUT.
SO THERE REALLY IS, I MEAN THERE'S COMMUNICATION OCCURRING, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO I THINK THAT GROUP WORKS VERY WELL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COSTS ASIDE, UM, THE ENGINEERS WITHIN THOSE CITIES AND TRA ALL KNOW ONE ANOTHER AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION MM-HMM
SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF, IF IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID, UH, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR SIDE.
THE TRAIL IS A, IS A HUGE PRIORITY.
AND THEN THERE COULD BE SOME ANCILLARY COSTS WITH KIND OF INTERSECTION TIE-INS ON OUR SIDE AS WELL.
SO WE ARE, UM, WE'RE PREPARED TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT WE ARE PROBABLY, I MEAN, KAREN, ARE WE PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO, MAYBE THREE FISCAL YEARS OUT? EASY, EASY, EASY.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE THEY'RE STILL, STILL, THEY'RE STILL SO PRELIMINARILY IN THEIR DESIGN.
I MEAN IT'S, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE, GOOD AND BAD OBVIOUSLY FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
UM, BUT PLENTY OF TIME FOR US TO FINANCIALLY PREPARE FOR THAT.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THIS.
SO, UH, WE DON'T SEE OBVIOUSLY THE MINERAL BOND, UH, IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KIND OF REGIONALIZED AND TRIED TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN, SO WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE THAT FOR A WHILE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE USING SOME OF THOSE DESIGNATED FUNDS TO DO MILLEN OVERLAY.
SO DO WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATION OF WHEN WE WILL SEE MINERAL BOND BACK OR, UH, THE IDEA RIGHT NOW WAS WHEN I SHOWED THE FIVE DIFFERENT COLORS OR SOMETHING.
SOMETHING NEAR THE END OF THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE WHEN WE NEED TO START COMING BACK AROUND WITH THE HA FIVE.
SO PROBABLY IN ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WE CAN START COMING BACK WITH THE, THE MINERAL BOND.
WE, UM, AS, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, IT SEEMS TO BE, UM, UM, PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL FOR US.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET RID OF OR THAT WE'VE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE LARGE ENOUGH AREAS TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE.
AND WE FOUND, UH, WE, WE THINK THE OVERLAYS ARE A BETTER OPTION IN THE SHORT TERM.
UM, COUNCILLOR SABLE, SO KAREN, WE HAVE A HUGE, WE A PRETTY GOOD DECENT FUND BALANCE
SO, AND WE, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE REALLY ONLY NEED ABOUT A MILLION FOR TO HAVE IN OUR FUND BALANCE? YEAH.
BUT IT'S ONE AND A HALF TIMES WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP IN OUR FUND BALANCE ONE TIMES ONE TIME, ONE TIMES THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.
SO THE REASON FOR HANGING ONTO SO MUCH IN THE FUND BALANCE IS WHAT? WELL FOR ONE, AT THIS POINT WE ARE SAVING FOR LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR ONE.
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SCORE BACK AND THAT PROJECT BACK THEN WE CAN REALLY BUILD THAT CIP PLAN BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.THE DEBT DOESN'T ROLL OFF UNTIL 20 20, 20 31.
SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE MORE YEARS BEFORE WE'LL HAVE A NET 660 ROLLING BACK INTO THE FUND.
UM, AND SO THE IDEA IS TO LET IT SIT THERE AND GROW UNTIL WE NEED IT FOR LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, AND BRADY IS ASSUMING WITH EACH TIME HE, HE GOES TO GET INTEREST FOR US, IT'S GONNA DROP FROM NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOING WELL MM-HMM
TO, TO THIS POINT, BUT NOW WE ASSUME IT WILL GO FROM MAYBE THE FIVE THAT WE WERE GETTING RIGHT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE AGAIN.
AND SO THAT'S ALSO HIS POINT IS HE'S ALWAYS ASKING, OKAY, WHEN ARE WE GONNA BID THIS PROJECT? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BID THIS PROJECT IN AUGUST, BUT WHEN DO WE HAVE TO START PAYING THAT SO HE CAN KIND OF PLAN HIS INVESTMENTS THAT WAY AS WELL.
SO, UM, HE'S GOT SOMETHING MATURING EVERY SINGLE MONTH SO THAT WE CAN LOCK IN THOSE HIGHER INTEREST RATES WHEN HE HAS THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE PROPOSED BUDGET? ALRIGHT, DON'T SEEING ANY? ALL RIGHT, WELL THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
SO I WILL ANTICIPATE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FOUR B WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PAYING FOR THE TRUCK.
SO I HAVE A FIRST, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, FARCO SECOND FROM, UH, DIRECTOR OTTO.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A VERBAL, UH, VOTE HERE.
UH, THANK YOU BOARD AND THANK YOU STAFF.
SO WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR MEETING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS HERE.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM DIRECTOR NAKAMOTO.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.