Nov 14, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission

[CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL]

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IT'S 6:00.

I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH, 2024.

DO A ROLL CALL.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND PRESENT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS.

WE GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL ACROSS HERE SO THAT IT'S EASY FOR THE, GREEN BUTTON, AGENDA TO BE AND THE MINUTES BE DONE.

THERE YOU GO. DOROTHY CRAWFORD.

PRESENT. TOM JACOBSEN PRESENT.

KATE BARLOW, PRESENT.

BRUCE EMERY, CHAIRMAN.

PRESENT. APRIL WHEELER, PRESENT.

J.R. SMITH, PRESENT.

DUKE LOPER PRESENT.

MIKE INGRAHAM PRESENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

LIKE I SAY, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A FULL, FULL DAIS.

AS A REMINDER COMMISSIONER LOPER, COMMISSIONER INGRAM, AS ALTERNATES, YOU ARE ASKED AND WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL DISCUSSION ON ALL ANY ITEMS BROUGHT BEFORE US.

AND NOT ONLY THIS MEETING, BUT ALL MEETINGS.

DEPENDING ON THE ATTENDANCE OF VOTING COMMISSIONERS, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE VOTING ON THE ISSUES.

TONIGHT YOU WON'T BE VOTING, BUT PLEASE FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM THAT WE THAT WE HANDLE TONIGHT.

WITH THAT, PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALL RIGHT, FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US ON A DAILY BASIS.

HELP US AS COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE DECISIONS AND DELIBERATE FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS WITH YOUR WATCHFUL EYE.

THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY, PARTICULARLY IN THIS WEEK IMMEDIATELY AFTER VETERANS DAY. ALL THESE THINGS WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

PLEASE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES FOR OUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 12TH AND THANK THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I HAD A PLANE TO CATCH.

YES, SIR. I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES RAISE YOUR HANDS.

OKAY. UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2024.

FIRST ACTION ITEM TODAY IS TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A SITE PLAN FOR LOT ONE, R1 BLOCK ONE OF THE

[2. Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a site plan for Lot 1R1 Block 1 of the Wal-Mart Addition Bedford being 26.55 acres generally located south of Cheek-Sparger Rd and west of State Hwy 121, commonly known as 4101 State Hwy 121. (SITE-24-8). ]

THIS IS CASE SITE DASH 24-8.

REQUEST ENRIQUE STAFF TO INTRODUCE US TO THIS PROJECT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

LONG TIME NO SEE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR SITE 24-8, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE A TWO DRONE PAD DELIVERY SITES FOR WALMART, 4101 STATE HIGHWAY 121.

THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THEM, SO WE CAN DO THAT AFTER THE FACT.

SO A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S 26.55 ACRES OR 26.5 ACRES WITH A 209,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WALMART.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL OVERLAY OR HIGHWAY MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY AND ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

SO ANY SITE PLAN WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY REQUIRES A SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT GOES THROUGH YALL, WHICH THEN WILL GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

SO THIS WOULD BE A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE ADDITION OF THE TWO DRONE PAD, TWO DRONE DELIVERY PADS ON APPROXIMATELY 0.26 ACRES ON THE PROPERTY.

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SO IF YOU CAN MAKE OUT THE TWO LITTLE CIRCLES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME ZONING HERE.

SO HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITH THE WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.

WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL R-15 TO THE WEST, PUD TO THE NORTH, AND THEN WE HAVE 121, BUT HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO THAT AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH. SO WE'RE GENERALLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USE.

HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

UP ON THE TOP YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE WEST IS WHERE WE HAVE THE FIRST STRETCH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST SECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, AND THEN THE TWO PADS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH.

ONE PAD WITH TWO TOWERS TO THAT.

SO HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS.

THIS ISN'T EXACTLY BEDFORD, BUT HERE'S HOW THE PROJECTS LOOKED LIKE IN OTHER CITIES.

RIGHT THERE WE HAVE RENDERINGS OF THE FENCE.

SO THE ONE THE PAD SITE TO THE WEST IS GOING TO BE ENCOMPASSED OR ENCLOSED BY AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, WHICH WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT, AND I WILL INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE ONE TO THE NORTH IS GOING TO BE ABUTTED UP TO THE BUILDING AT A VIEW AS WELL.

SO HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY TO THE BACK OF WALMART.

IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL THAT GRADUALLY SLOPES UP.

IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S GENERALLY OUT OF SIGHT AT THE BOTTOM.

THERE'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED RETAINING WALL THAT GOES TO LEVEL OUT UP THE DIRT ON THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS FOSTER HOLLY PLANTING THAT'S GOING TO GO AROUND IT AS WELL.

SO ON OUR STAFF FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO AGAIN, ANY PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY REQUIRE A SITE PLAN TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AFTER RECOMMENDATION FROM YALL.

THE SITE PLAN MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION 5.4 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN AND THE THE USE AND THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

SO BASED ON THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUICK QUESTION.

YES. TECHNICAL QUESTION.

THE THE PLAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ON MY SCREEN.

WHERE IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE AFTER THE AFTER THE FOR AFTER EXHIBIT C SITE PHOTOS.

OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT IS THE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT ON THE ONLINE PACKET, IT'S THE ONE THAT'S CUT OUT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

YEAH. I HAVE ON THIS COMPUTER SCREENS HERE WE HAVE NOTES TO SEE THE CITY SECRETARY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T TWEAKING HERE.

I HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

I DON'T HAVE THE. YEAH.

THE PACKET THAT IS PRINTED ON ONLINE DUE TO A RECENT OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOLLOW UP WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WE CANNOT PUBLISH SITE PLANS ONLINE ANYMORE.

SO IN YOUR PACKET, YOU RECEIVED THE SITE PLAN.

YES, SIR. BUT THE PACKET BEFORE YOU ONLINE DOES NOT SHOW THAT.

OKAY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL, IT LETS ME KNOW THAT I'M NOT HAVING A MALFUNCTION HERE.

NO, IT DOESN'T SAY THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ENRIQUE OR WES? JUST A QUESTION. I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW THIS IS BASICALLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

BUT THEN YOU ADD ON DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ACCESSORY USE.

WHAT DOES THAT CHANGE? DOES THAT CHANGE THE DEFINITION AT ALL? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OKAY. YEAH. SO SO BIG SUPERMARKET OR BIG BOX BIG BOX RETAIL IS THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THIS, AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ACCESSORY TO THAT. IT'S A MINOR PORTION OR MINOR ACCESSORY USE OR IT'S STILL WITHIN THE PRIMARY USE OF THE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S STILL OPERATES WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD PUT THAT IN THERE.

AND SO I WAS JUST AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS.

I'VE JUST GOT GENERAL QUESTIONS.

WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NELLIE R.

STEVENS AND THE FENCE AND THE WALL, I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE JUST GOING TO BE ON THE PERIMETER.

YES, AROUND THE PERIMETER.

STEVENS I THINK THEY WERE PLANTED ON 12 FOOT CENTERS, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH.

OKAY. AND LIKE I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

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YES. OKAY.

OKAY. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF THEY CHOSE TO TO EXPAND IT IN ANY WAY, OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN ORDER TO DO SO? [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT IS IN THE OVERLAY, ANY CHANGE TO THE SITE PLAN WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

AND JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT, EVEN IF THEY WERE ADDING, LET'S SAY, A NEW PARKING LOT OR EXPANDING A PARKING LOT, THAT KIND OF A CHANGE WOULD ALSO SUBSTANTIALLY REQUIRE WE WOULD SITE PLAN.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANGING WHAT THE FOOTPRINT LOOKS LIKE ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN CHANGE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEFORE US.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.

JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR FOOTPRINT, REGARDLESS REALLY OF THE USE IS WHY THIS PLATS' IN FRONT OF US.

CORRECT? YES. CORRECT.

OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.

OKAY. AND YOU SAID THIS HAS BEEN BEEN REVIEWED AND THERE WEREN'T ANY STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH THE CHANGES IN THE SITE PLAN.

[INAUDIBLE] SO BUILDING PERMITS ASIDE, BUT JUST IN THE ZONING COMPONENT OF IT, NO ISSUES.

OKAY. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THEM.

SO WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSIONERS? DO WE WANT TO HEAR HEAR FROM THESE FOLKS THIS EVENING? WHO WANTS TO BE FIRST, PLEASE? THIS GENTLEMAN I UNDERSTAND IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM WALMART.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY. SO, MARK BERGMAN AND ADDRESS, I HAIL FROM 702 SOUTHWEST 8TH STREET IN BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS, 72716.

SO I WANTED TO TELL YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF THE PANEL TO BE ABLE TO BRING AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

I AM ALSO JOINED BY MALLORY FROM KIMLEY-HORN, AS WELL AS CONNER FROM ZIPLINE TO BASICALLY KIND OF ZIPLINE IS GOING TO HELP US SPEAK ON SOME OF THE TECH.

AND THEN MALLORY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP US AND KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE RELATED TO THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.

AND THEN MYSELF, I'M FROM WALMART.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE WALMART DRONE DELIVERY BUSINESS TEAM FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, AND WE HAVE BEEN MAKING GREAT STRIDES IN BEING ABLE TO BRING MAKE DRONE DELIVERY A REALITY.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON WHY, WHY BRING DRONE DELIVERY.

SO I'VE GOT TO SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CUSTOMERS.

OUR CUSTOMERS ARE CHANGING, THEY'RE ADAPTING.

YOU THINK BACK TO HOW WE ORDERED ITEMS NOT TOO LONG AGO.

FOR ME, AS A TEENAGER, I REMEMBER GETTING A CRUTCHFIELD CATALOG AND LOOKING FOR THIS SPECIAL UNIQUE TAPE DECK PLAYER AND THEN PLACING THAT ORDER AND WAITING 4 TO 6 WEEKS TO GET THAT TAPE DECK SO I COULD PUT IT IN MY MUSTANG CAR.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WAS QUITE A BIT OF TIME AGO.

MY MOM, SHE STILL LIKES TO ORDER FROM CATALOGS.

SHE ORDERS LIKE A LOT OF HER FLOWERS FROM CATALOGS.

SO SHE HAS REALLY GREAT.

SHE HAS A REALLY GREAT LOOKING GARDEN.

WHEN PEOPLE COME BY, THEY ALWAYS KIND OF VERY CURIOUS, LIKE, WHERE DOES SHE GET THOSE UNIQUE FLOWERS? IT'S BECAUSE SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO ORDER THOSE ITEMS THROUGH THAT CATALOG.

AND SHE DOES WAIT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT NOWHERE NEAR THAT 4 TO 6 WEEKS.

AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, ALONG WITH THE TIMES CHANGING MY DAUGHTER'S THERE OVER AT TEXAS TECH, AND THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO CALL ME UP LATE AT NIGHT AND SAY, DAD, IT'S GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT STUDYING.

AND CAN YOU CAN YOU ORDER ME SOME FOOD? AND I'M THINKING I'M A GREAT DAD AND I'M LIKE, I CAN'T PHYSICALLY BE THERE.

SO I'LL PUT THAT ORDER IN, I'LL PAY THE PRICE.

AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTERS, THEY'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE STUDYING.

THEY'RE ABLE TO KIND OF EAT THAT MEAL.

AND THEN MY WIFE, FOR SOME REASON, SHE'S FOUND A WAY TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.

WE'VE GOT PACKAGES ARRIVING IN OUR FRONT DOORSTEP ALL THE TIME.

SO YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY WE COULD SEE THE CUSTOMER HABITS CHANGING.

MY WIFE AND I STILL ENJOY GOING TO WALMART.

WE LIKE TO WALK IN AND ALWAYS LOOK TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE LEFT AND SAY, DO WE REALLY NEED A BASKET? AND EVERY TIME WE WALK IN, I JUST DID THIS YESTERDAY.

WE ALWAYS ARE WRONG WHENEVER WE SAY WE DON'T NEED A BASKET.

THERE'S ALWAYS SO MANY THINGS TO BUY AT WALMART.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH ONLINE ORDERING NOT ONLY HAS CUSTOMER BEHAVIOR LIKE CUSTOMERS DO, CUSTOMERS ENJOY ORDERING ONLINE.

BUT WITH THE PANDEMIC, WHEN THAT CAME ABOUT, IT WAS LIKE GASOLINE ON FIRE AND THAT KIND OF EXPLODED FOR US.

YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND A WALMART WITH LESS THAN 20 PICKUP SPACES FOR ONLINE ORDERS, AND WE'RE SEEING THAT DEMAND GROW.

SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT CUSTOMERS ENJOY THE SERVICE.

THEY'RE TELLING THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR FAMILIES ABOUT IT, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO USE THAT SERVICE.

AND WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW IS DRONE DELIVERY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP US MEET SOME OF THAT DEMAND BY TAKING SMALL PACKAGES AND ALLOWING WALMART TO GET THOSE

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SO LESS THAN 30 MINUTES.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT GOES INTO WHY IT'S THAT 30 LESS THAN 30 MINUTES.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT OPERATING ON THE ROADS.

THERE'S NO STOP SIGNS, THERE'S NO STOPLIGHTS.

IT'S NOT ADDING TO THE CONGESTION ON THE ROAD ITSELF.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH DALLAS IS A LOT OF GROWTH.

AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A PERFECT ENVIRONMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TO BE ABLE TO HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF THAT ONLINE GROWTH. SO WITH THAT, I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER AND I'M GOING TO BE AROUND.

OF COURSE, ANYTHING ON THE QUESTIONS ON THE WHY OR THE BUSINESS FROM WALMART I'LL BE HERE AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MALLORY TO KIND OF SPEAK ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.

HI THERE. GOOD EVENING, AND THANKS FOR HAVING US TODAY.

I'M MALLORY MARTIN.

MY ADDRESS IS 11700 KATY FREEWAY, HOUSTON, TEXAS, AND I'M PART OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERING TEAM THAT'S WORKING WITH WALMART AND ZIPLINE ON THIS PROJECT HERE IN BEDFORD.

SO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN SHOWS THE NINE STATIONS AT THE REAR OF THE STORE.

SO THE GREEN CIRCLE THERE AT THE TOP.

SO THERE'S NINE CHARGING STATIONS THERE.

AND THEN AT THE SMALLER GREEN CIRCLE IT'S ON THE RIGHT HERE BUT THAT'S PLAN.

OR TO THE NORTH SIDE IS TWO OTHER STATIONS FOR LOADING.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE PACKAGES WOULD BE LOADED.

AND SO THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS A PROPOSED RETAINING WALL, JUST THE LIMITS OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE.

AND IT SHOWS A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF STRIPING, AN ADA RAMP AND SOME SIDEWALK.

IT SHOWS THE FENCING THAT'S PROPOSED AROUND BOTH LOCATIONS FOR SAFETY, IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE.

AND I'M TRYING TO THINK SO BASED ON THE LOCATIONS WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, EXISTING UTILITIES, THE SAFETY OF, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS AND THE ASSOCIATES AT WALMART.

AS WELL AS EXISTING UTILITIES HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS.

THE ONLY SUBSURFACE UTILITIES THAT ARE PROPOSED IS ELECTRICITY.

SO THERE'S NO REVISIONS TO THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS TO SANITARY SEWER, WATER STORM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

WE ALSO THE PARKING IS NOT AFFECTED AT ALL.

SO WE'RE MAINTAINING ALL THE PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE, AND THE LANDSCAPING IS VERY MINIMALLY AFFECTED.

SO THAT OPEN SPACE, VERY SMALL PERCENT OF OPEN SPACE IS AFFECTED AND STAYING WELL ABOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR OPEN SPACE.

SO THAT'S THE SITE PLAN STILL.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT FOR SITE PLAN? I'M ASSUMING THAT THE EMBARKATION POINT IS THAT SMALLER AREA.

THEN THEY'LL LAND BACK AT THE LARGER AREA AND CHARGE, AND THEN YOU'LL FLY THEM BACK TO THE SMALLER AREA TO THEN DISTRIBUTE THE.

YES. AND THE LOGISTICS OF THAT WILL BE COVERED WITH THE ZIPLINE PRESENTATION.

BUT YES, IN GENERAL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH TOO FOR ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING OF THIS PARTICULAR.

YES. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

I AGREE I THINK THAT'LL LOOK GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREETINGS, SIR.

GREETINGS. GREETINGS.

THANK YOU. AND WELCOME TO, I GUESS, NEW COMMISSIONERS AS WELL FOR THE FIRST MEETING.

I'M CONNOR FRENCH, THE CHIEF REGULATORY OFFICER AT ZIPLINE.

MY ADDRESS IS 460 POPLAR STREET, HALF MOON BAY, CALIFORNIA, 94019.

I THINK WE HAD A PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE GOING TO WALK THROUGH.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A LOT OF IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON ON THE CONCEPT OF DRONE DELIVERY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AT ZIPLINE.

AND THAT'S MEANT TO BOTH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE IN QUESTIONS, BUT ALSO TO TO HELP CREATE AWARENESS AROUND THAT, WHAT WE'LL ACTUALLY BE DOING FROM THE SITE.

OH, YEAH.

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE A TECHNOLOGY PERSON SO, YEAH, WE WANTED TO START JUST BY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, DRONE DELIVERY IS NOT JUST A CONCEPT OF THE FUTURE.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW AND AND WILL SOON BE A REALITY FOR MILLIONS OF ADDITIONAL TEXANS.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS YOU KNOW, CAN FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE FUTURE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BE IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX AND IN BEDFORD WITH BRINGING THIS INITIAL SORT OF

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AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON ON ZIPLINE, WE'RE THE WORLD'S LARGEST DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE.

WE OPERATE WE'VE DONE OVER 1.2 MILLION COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES.

AND SOMEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD, EVERY DAY SOMEONE RECEIVES A DELIVERY EVERY MINUTE.

YOU KNOW, AND I THINK JUST THAT SCALE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF THIS NEWER TECHNOLOGY.

OUR BACKGROUND AS A COMPANY IS IN SAVING LIVES.

WE STARTED BY DELIVERING BLOOD TO HOSPITALS IN 2016 AND HAVE SINCE EXPANDED TO, TO FLY ON FOUR CONTINENTS.

YOU KNOW, OUR VALUES ARE REALLY ABOUT ARE FOUNDED IN SOLVING THE TOUGHEST LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES, DELIVERING CRITICAL PRODUCTS IN HARSH ENVIRONMENTS TO BUILD THE FIRST LOGISTICS SERVICE THAT SERVES ALL HUMANS EQUALLY.

WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF OF LIFE IN BOTH RURAL AND IN URBAN ENVIRONMENTS.

AND WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, THE FIRST THE FIRST LIFE SAVING USE CASE WE HAD WAS DELIVERING BLOOD JUST IN TIME, BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS TO FOLKS THAT DIDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IN RWANDA.

AND A RECENT STUDY FROM WHARTON FOUND THAT ZIPLINE HAD REDUCED IN-HOSPITAL MATERNAL MORTALITY BY 51% IN RWANDA.

TODAY WE'VE DELIVERED MORE THAN 17 MILLION VACCINE DOSES, 140,000 BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS, 17,000 GROCERY BAGS AND 46,000 TEXTBOOKS TO KIDS IN SCHOOLS.

SO AGAIN, THERE'S A BIT MORE SCALE THAN THAN THAN THAN FOLKS MAY REALIZE.

WITH THAT SUCCESS, WE'VE BEEN EXPANDED GEOGRAPHICALLY AND IN VOLUME.

SO TODAY WE'RE DELIVERING PRESCRIPTIONS, GROCERIES, RETAIL ITEMS, AND DINNER FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.

ZIPLINE IS IS DESIGNED, TESTED AND MANUFACTURED IN AMERICA.

OUR HEADQUARTERS, WHICH MY OFFICE IS RIGHT ABOVE OUR MANUFACTURING FLOOR, IS CURRENTLY IN SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 1300 EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE WORLD. AND WE'RE OPENING A REGIONAL HUB IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX LATER THIS YEAR.

WALMART IS OUR ANCHOR PARTNER, AND WE'RE ALREADY OPERATING WITH THEM IN PEA RIDGE, ARKANSAS, AND ARE COMING TO TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA TO LAUNCH AT SCALE.

AND WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND SUPER GRATEFUL FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION AND TIME.

AND IF I MOVE TOO SLOW, I REALLY DO WANT TO VALUE YOUR TIME SO.

YOU KNOW, ZIPLINES, SAME MISSION OF SERVING ALL HUMANS EQUALLY IS, YOU KNOW, APPLIES TO DALLAS FORT WORTH.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF PROVIDING HUGE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE.

AND WE'RE COMING TO, YOU KNOW, BEDFORD TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE.

THIS YEAR, THERE WILL BE OVER 5 BILLION INSTANT DELIVERIES FROM ON DEMAND APPS IN THE UNITED STATES.

EACH OF THESE DELIVERIES RELIES ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S 100 YEARS OLD.

IT CAN BE SLOW, IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE, AND IT CAN CAUSE TRAFFIC.

IT REALLY WASN'T BUILT TO KEEP UP WITH TODAY'S DEMAND.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE TO BE ORDERING A PRIVATE TAXI FOR YOUR ROTISSERIE CHICKEN, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT'S WHY WE BUILT PLATFORM TWO, WHICH IS I'LL DESCRIBE AND SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF A VIDEO SO THAT FOLKS CAN ENVISION IT TO FULLY AUTOMATE HOME DELIVERY AND PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH A WAY TO SAVE TIME, REDUCE TRAFFIC, AND GET PACKAGES UP TO TEN TIMES FASTER THAN BY CAR, AND HOPEFULLY MUCH MORE CONVENIENTLY.

I'M HOPEFUL THE VIDEO WORKS BECAUSE I DO THINK IT JUST HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

BUT IF IT DOESN'T, THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY A WALMART STORE I RECOGNIZE.

BUT THIS DID I DO BAD THINGS OR GOOD THINGS.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO THE RIGHT SO THE FLIGHT PROCESS IS MEANT TO BE SORT OF THE RENDERING THAT CUSTOMERS CAN MAKE THEIR ON DEMAND ORDERS OR SCHEDULE A TIME THAT THEY LIKE THEIR PACKAGE TO ARRIVE DOWN TO THE MINUTE OR DOWN TO THE SECOND.

ZIPS ARE LOADED AND CHARGED AT THE, YOU KNOW, WILL BE CHARGED AT THE WALMART AND A ZIPLINE EMPLOYEE LOADS YOU KNOW THE ORDER IN SECONDS AND THE ZIP UNDOCKS AND TAKES OFF. WHEN IT ARRIVES AT THE DESTINATION.

IT HOVERS SAFELY AND QUIETLY IN THE SKY WHILE ITS FULLY AUTONOMOUS DELIVERY DROID MANEUVERS DOWN A TETHER AND STEERING TO THE CORRECT LOCATION AND GENTLY DROPPING OFF THE PACKAGE TO AN AREA AS SMALL AS A PATIO TABLE OR THE FRONT STEPS OF A HOME, OR SOMETHING ALONG THE SIZE OF THAT THAT TABLE UP THERE.

JUST CHICKEN FOR DINNER.

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MIC] THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING WITH ME.

COOL. YOU KNOW, OUR PLATFORM, AND THIS IS SOME OF THE SORT OF SPECS HERE.

IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A QUIET, FAST AND PRECISE AUTONOMOUS DELIVERY THAT'S UP TO TEN TIMES AS FAST AS CARS COMPLETING A TEN MILE DELIVERY IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. THE ZIP IS DESIGNED ALSO TO STAY HUNDREDS OF FEET IN THE AIR DURING THE DELIVERY.

SO THE ZIP IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS THAT BIGGER AIRCRAFT.

AND IT LOWERS THE DROID TO GENTLY PLACE THE PACKAGE IN A PRECISE LOCATION OF THE CUSTOMER'S CHOOSING.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SO THE CUSTOMER IS INTERACTING MORE LIKELY TO INTERACT MORE WITH THE WITH THE DROID THAN THE ZIP, WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER.

I ACTUALLY INTENDED TO HAVE THE DROID WITH ME TO DEMONSTRATE, BUT DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO GET IT.

IT'S CUTE. IT'S VERY CUTE TECHNOLOGY.

OUR ZIP CAN CARRY UP TO 8 POUNDS, WHICH, TO PROVIDE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, IS, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 80% OF PACKAGES DELIVERED ARE UNDER 8 POUNDS. AND THEN WITH 90% OF OF THE US POPULATION WITHIN TEN MILES OF WALMART STORE, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE ONE STEP CLOSER TO REALLY ACHIEVING THAT GOAL OF CREATING THE WORLD'S FIRST DELIVERY SYSTEM THAT CAN THAT CAN SERVE ALL PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES EQUALLY.

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF A GRAPHIC TO HELP DEMONSTRATE WHAT, YOU KNOW, TODAY IN ARKANSAS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DELIVER 80% OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN A WALMART STORE VIA DRONE.

THE DROID IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A SMALL COOLER.

IT CAN CARRY UP TO 12 EIGHT INCH SANDWICHES, TWO MEDIUM PIZZAS AND TWO SODA DRINKS, 24 DONUTS, OR ENOUGH TO MAKE A BARBECUE DINNER FOR THE FAMILY.

BECAUSE 8 POUNDS OF MEAT IS QUITE A LOT OF BEEF BRISKET.

THE DROID CAN KEEP HOT THINGS, HOT AND COLD THINGS COLD AND FROZEN THINGS FROZEN.

SO WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY EXCITED TO TO BE ABLE TO ROLL THIS OUT HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE FOUND IT USEFUL TO, YOU KNOW, HERE WHERE COMMON AREAS OF PUBLIC CONCERN ARE AROUND THE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND TO SORT OF TRY TO ADDRESS THAT HEAD ON.

SO THE THREE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED THE MOST WHEN WE PRESENT OUR TECHNOLOGY RELATE TO SAFETY, PRIVACY AND SOUND.

AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS THESE A LITTLE BIT HERE.

THIS IS AROUND SOUND.

YOU KNOW, OUR DESIGN APPROACH INCLUDES THAT TWO PART ARCHITECTURE THAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ZIP AND THE DROID.

SO WE USE A VERY QUIET DELIVERY DROID THAT DESCENDS FROM THE ZIP, WHILE THE ZIP REMAINS ABOUT 300FT HIGH TO MINIMIZE SOUND.

YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE BROUGHT IN SOME OF THE SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING ENGINEERS IN THE WORLD TO SOUND OPTIMIZED PROPELLERS.

SO WE'VE AERO ACOUSTICALLY OPTIMIZED THOSE PROPELLERS TO REDUCE THE SOUND INTENSITY AND ALSO TO ENHANCE THE SOUND PROFILE.

SO LIKE THE REGULARITY, FREQUENCY AND PITCH FOR A BETTER EXPERIENCE.

WE ALSO DO A LOT WITH FLIGHT ROUTING TO MINIMIZE HOVER TIME AND USE RANDOMIZED FLIGHT PATHS TO AVOID PROLONGED OR REPEATED SOUND EXPOSURE IN THE SAME AREAS.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE SHARING THE DATA BECAUSE WHETHER FLYING, DOCKING OR UNDOCKING, WE ARE QUIETER THAN CITY TRAFFIC.

THIS IS ACTUALLY, IS OUT OF DATE.

WE HAVE FLOWN OVER 90 MILLION AUTONOMOUS MILES NOW WITHOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT SAFETY SAFETY INCIDENTS.

AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE AREAS THAT WE FLY IN EXTREMELY WELL, BOTH IN THE AIRSPACE AND ON THE GROUND.

WE INTEGRATE SAFETY INTO EVERY SINGLE STEP OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, FROM THE HARDWARE THAT WE DESIGN AND BUILD, TO THE SOFTWARE THAT HELPS US NAVIGATE THE SKIES.

AND OUR EXPERT TEAMS OVERSEE EVERY ASPECT OF THE DELIVERY.

FOR THE DESIGN WE'VE BUILT IN CRITICAL SYSTEM REDUNDANCY SO THAT IF ONE COMPONENT FAILS, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TO BACK IT UP.

WE TEST. WE HAVE BRANCHES ALL OVER THE US.

COLD WEATHER AS WELL, WHERE WE WERE TESTING IN EXTREME TEMPERATURES, HIGH WINDS AND PUSHING OUR TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS.

WE HAVE FAA APPROVAL.

WE'RE CERTIFICATED AS AN AIR CARRIER.

SO AN AIRLINE, WE'RE ALSO A MANUFACTURER SIMILAR TO A MAJOR AIRLINE OR MANUFACTURER.

AND WE HAVE A REMOTE OPERATIONS CONTROL CENTER WHERE THERE'S REAL TIME MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL SYSTEM HEALTH.

AND WE CONDUCT ABOUT 500 PLUS AUTOMATED PREFLIGHT INSPECTIONS, SAFETY INSPECTIONS.

IN ADDITION, OUR ZIPS ARE EQUIPPED WITH FLIGHT IQ, WHICH IS A TRANSITION TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

YOU KNOW, ZIPS USE FLIGHT IQ WHICH IS OUR ADVANCED AUTONOMY AND PERCEPTION SYSTEM THAT INCLUDES SOME VISUAL NAVIGATE AND DELIVER SMARTLY AND SAFELY, JUST

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ZIPLINE USES FLIGHT IQ ON ZIPS AND DELIVERY DROIDS TO DO THE SAME.

WE'RE ONLY EVER GOING TO SCALE IF PRIVACY IS AT THE CORE OF WHAT WE DO.

AND SO WE'VE THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED A SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE USING IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS.

AND IN FACT, THE SYSTEM WAS TESTED IN MY BACKYARD.

THIS IS AN AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S NO PERSON WATCHING A LIVE VIDEO STREAM.

SENSORS ON THE ZIP AND THE DROID CANNOT ZOOM OR BE POINTED IN A PARTICULAR DIRECTION, AND DO NOT IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS OR READ LICENSE PLATES.

WE ALSO APPLY INDUSTRY STANDARD TOOLS TO BLUR FACES AND VISUAL DATA.

WE TALKED, WE SAW A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AROUND THIS IN THE EARLIER THE EARLIER PRESENTATIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE REALLY THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY WILL BE REVIEWING AND APPROVING, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SITUATION.

BUT I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER BACKGROUND IS REALLY HELPFUL, EVEN WHERE IT'S REGULATED PRIMARILY BY THE FAA AND OTHERS, YOU KNOW LOADING, THERE'S THE TWO SINGLE DOCKS SIMILAR TO ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY.

A WALMART ASSOCIATE COULD LOAD THE PACKAGE INTO THE ZIP INSTEAD OF A CAR.

THE DETAILED REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS WITH WALMART STORE OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO INTEGRATE SEAMLESSLY WITH THEIR CURRENT ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY.

AND TYPICALLY, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE THESE IN THE BACK OF HOUSE AREAS OR CLOSE TO ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY.

YOU KNOW, CHARGING, WHICH IS FOR THE NINE DOUBLE DOCKS THAT WERE WERE PICTURED.

YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION SCOPE IS LIMITED.

WE THINK OF THEM MAYBE AS FANCY LIGHT POSTS THAT REQUIRE THREE THINGS ELECTRICAL POWER, DATA, AND A FOUNDATION.

AND WE ANTICIPATE WITH STARTING WITH A HANDFUL OF DELIVERIES A DAY AND RAMPING UP, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY TO HUNDREDS OF DELIVERIES A DAY AS WE BUILD TRUST AND DEVELOP OUR CUSTOMER BASE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT DEMAND.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEDFORD IS NOT SEEING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN IT'S INSTALLED ON SITE.

THAT'S WHY WE TAKE OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE PUT THIS SLIDE AS THE LAST ONE, NOT BECAUSE IT'S LEAST IMPORTANT, BUT BECAUSE IN SOME WAYS IT'S PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT.

WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE BECOME A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WE NEED YOUR PARTNERSHIP TO BRING DRONE DELIVERY TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO ENGAGE WITH STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE TRY TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS, CITY OFFICIALS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS.

ALSO COMMUNICATING AROUND WHEN AND WHERE WE'LL LAUNCH.

AND FINALLY, WE DO A LOT TO TRY TO GIVE BACK AND INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION.

WE WE WORK WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS ON STEM EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT SPARK INTEREST IN ROBOTICS, AUTONOMY AND NEW TECHNOLOGY.

WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY COOL STORIES FROM PEA RIDGE, ARKANSAS, AS WELL AS FROM AROUND THE WORLD.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAD TODAY IN TERMS OF PRESENTING.

I GUESS IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LENGTHY, BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS AND REALLY CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE THE SERVICE THAT WE WOULD BE WE WOULD BE PROVIDING.

AND LIKE I SAID, HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS TO THE EXTENT THEY RELATE TO THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, I'LL PROBABLY LOOK TO TO TO THOSE FOLKS.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A SITE PLAN QUESTION.

SO JUST IN THE DETAIL, HOW MANY OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE LARGE OVAL TO THE WEST? THE LARGE OVAL TO THE WEST, AT THE REAR OF THE STORE, TO THE REAR OF THE STORE IS NINE OF THE CHARGING STATIONS.

DOUBLES OR SINGLES? DOUBLES.

DOUBLES. OKAY. AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, RIGHT UP ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING IS THE TWO.

I GUESS WE COULD GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES, BUT THE LANDING SITES IS THE LOADING THE LAUNCH SITES STATIONS. THOUGH IT WAS ON THE PLAT, I JUST I WASN'T SURE HOW MANY YOU WERE BUILDING LIKE NOW? YES, YES. SO IT WOULD BE ALL BUILT ALL TOGETHER IS MY UNDERSTANDING IF THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. AND SO NINE THERE AND THEN THE TWO HERE FOR THE ACTUAL LOADING.

OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

MARK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

OH, PERFECT I LOVE QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR. WE WON'T DO ANY PIG TONIGHT.

OH. THAT'S OKAY.

I'M A TRANSPLANT. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM TEXAS, SO I ALWAYS ENJOY COMING BACK TO TEXAS.

JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT. AND, ROGER, I'M KIND OF CHANNELING.

WHY BEDFORD? THERE ARE WALMARTS ALL AROUND US.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

IN IN SOME OF THE WALMARTS AROUND US ARE BIGGER THAN THE ONE THAT'S AT THIS SITE.

WHAT DRIVES THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHICH WALMART SITE YOU IMPLEMENT THIS DRONE DELIVERY SYSTEM?

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NUMBER ONE, DEFINITELY, OUR COMPANY'S GOAL IS BASICALLY TO COVER 75% OF THE DALLAS MARKET WITH MAKING DRONE DELIVERY AVAILABLE TO OUR CUSTOMER BASE HERE.

AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, 90% OF THE CUSTOMERS LIVE WITHIN A TEN MILE RADIUS.

WE'RE HITTING TEN MILES WITH ZIPLINE BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT DELIVERY POSSIBLE.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE AIRSPACE.

THE AIRSPACE HAS GOT TO BE RIGHT.

SO WE CAN'T JUST PUT ANY DRONE PROVIDER AT ANY LOCATION.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE DRONE PROVIDER'S CAPABILITIES, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THAT AIRSPACE.

SO BEDFORD HAS GOT GREAT AIRSPACE.

ALSO A BIG, HUGE PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE DEMAND.

I KIND OF SPOKE EARLIER HOW CUSTOMER BEHAVIORS ARE CHANGING, WE'RE SEEING DEMAND.

BEDFORD IS GROWING, AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ONLINE ORDERS.

AND WE FEEL THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO ADD THIS AS AN OPTION TO OUR CUSTOMERS HERE.

OKAY, SO OPERATIONAL FROM A WALMART STANDPOINT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LARGE WALMART ON PRECINCT ROAD AND HURST.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE IN GRAPEVINE.

THERE'S ONE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL.

SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR DELIVERY SITE HERE ON CHEEK-SPARGER, WOULD THIS SERVE THE CUSTOMERS FROM THOSE STORES OR YOU'LL FLY OVER THOSE STORES TO THEIR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE IT'S INSIDE TEN MILES.

I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT, WHAT MADE BEDFORD UNIQUE? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE? SO LOGISTICALLY, WE WILL HAVE SOME OVERLAP WITH AIRSPACE, AND THE DETERMINING FACTOR IS GOING TO BE THE CUSTOMER.

IF THEY SELECT THE BEDFORD STORE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT DELIVERY HERE TODAY.

THE ONLY OTHER PIECE I'D ADD THERE IS I THINK YOU'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A GREAT CUSTOMER BASE HERE.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A TON OF DEMAND.

YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ANSWERS THERE.

BUT REALLY, THAT'S KIND OF THE DRIVING FACTOR.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SMALL PACKAGES AT AN EXTREMELY FAST RATE OF SPEED.

DALLAS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO BE.

WE'VE GOT OUR DALLAS INNOVATION HUB HERE, WHERE WE TRY QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE NEW AND EXCITING, AND DRONE DELIVERY IS EXCITING.

BUT THE ULTIMATE END GOAL IS WE JUST WANT THE CUSTOMERS TO SAY WE TO GIVE THAT OPTION, TO SAY, I WANT A PACKAGE AND I WANT IT LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AND DRONES CAN DO THAT.

WHILE I'M WHILE WE'RE CONVERSING.

I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR BEDFORD SITE WILL BE THE ONLY WALMART DRONE DELIVERY SYSTEM SO FAR IN NORTH TEXAS.

WE IT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW SITES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BEING BEING CONSIDERED, AS WELL AS ONE THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN MESQUITE, TEXAS.

BUT ONE OF THE FIRST DEFINITELY.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

I WAS GOING TO SAY COMMISSIONERS.

MR. CHAIRMAN I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS.

YOU MENTIONED TEN MILES, BUT THEN THE GENTLEMAN FROM SAN FRANCISCO SHOWED A TWO MILE RADIUS.

ARE YOU GOING TO START OUT AT TWO MILES, OR ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO TEN MILES? THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING BON THE ON THE DRAWING [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND CONNOR.

YEAH FOR SURE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH WITH CLOSER TO TWO MILES AND THEN EXPAND TO TEN MILES.

AND PART OF THAT IS JUST AROUND AS WE, YOU KNOW, GAIN PERMISSIONS FROM FROM FAA.

IT'S YOU JUST END UP DOING THAT BASED ON FLIGHT HOURS.

I'M SORRY. DID YOU DO A TEST STORE IN PRINCETON, TEXAS? DID I READ THAT OR AM I? I WAS READING A LOT ABOUT DRONES.

[INAUDIBLE] I WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER THERE WITH MY EYES CLOSED AND THAT THAT THAT THAT WASN'T MY PROUDEST MOMENT.

OKAY, WELL, NO, I'M NOT.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD SOME OTHER I'LL CALL THEM BETA SITES, AND MAYBE PRINCETON WAS ONE OF THEM.

AND I WAS JUST TRYING BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT USUALLY COMES TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND I'M TALKING JUST FOR INFORMATION, NOT NOT FROM A, YOU KNOW, A PLAT PERSPECTIVE OR A ZONING.

WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? WHAT DO YOU INTEND THEM TO BE? I'M ASSUMING YOU YOU KNOW THAT.

YES, SIR. SO INITIALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HOURS OF OF DAYLIGHT FOR OPERATION.

YEAH. NORMALLY I HAVE THIS NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M DRAWING A BLANK.

CONNOR, DO YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, IS IT 10 TO 6? I BELIEVE IT IS 10 TO 6, BUT TYPICALLY WE WOULD ADJUST FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS.

OKAY, BUT THE NAME OF THE GAME IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT AND WE'RE DOING IT SAFELY.

THERE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN TERMS OF REGULATORY WHAT WAS ALLOWED NOW, WHAT IS ALLOWED.

IT APPEARED THAT TEXAS LAW WAS OVERRULED BY A HIGHER COURT, BUT ALL OF THEM TALKED ABOUT LINE OF SIGHT.

THAT THAT HAS TO BE IS YOUR LINE OF SIGHT BASED ON THE OPERATOR LOOKING THROUGH THAT CAMERA THAT AS IT FLIES OUT TO WHEREVER, IS THAT WHAT YOU DETERMINE LINE OF SIGHT TO BE? BECAUSE IF IT'S LEAVING FROM HERE AND IT'S FLYING TWO MILES, I'M NOT SAYING BEDFORD IS EXTREMELY HILLY, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, EVEN AT

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YEAH. YOU YOU'VE GOT A GREAT QUESTION.

AND HONESTLY, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ABILITY TO SCALE.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M BRINGING THE RIGHT PERSON UP.

CONNOR. YEAH. FOR SURE.

SO SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT'S NOW NEARLY 1.3 MILLION COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES WE'VE DONE ARE BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.

WE WE HAVE FIVE VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT UNDER UNDER CERTAIN AUTHORITY.

IT'S CALLED PART 107.

AND SO THE OTHER AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE PERMISSIONS TO FLY BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] AND SO WE THAT'S HOW WE WILL GET TO TEN MILES CERTAINLY.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STAYING TWO MILES NOW BASED ON TEXAS LAW CURRENT LAW.

NOT NOT TEXAS LAW.

THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT FAA AUTHORITIES.

OKAY. YEAH.

WELL, I WAS JUST GOING DOWN BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED AROUND.

I MEAN, IT GOT VERY LEGALISTIC.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE IS THAT SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, I'M IN MY BACKYARD AND THE DRONES FLYING. NOT THAT YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION OF OF SURVEILLING THEIR BACKYARD, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO A POINT TO DROP OFF THAT, THAT MERCHANDISE, RIGHT? SO YOU COULD HAVE THAT PUSHBACK.

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN MY OWN MIND.

AND YOU'RE THE REGULATORY GUY.

YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU'RE THE GUY TASKED WITH THAT THAT THAT SITUATION? WELL, THE SCENARIO THAT YOU DESCRIBED IS KIND OF WHY WE WANTED TO UPFRONT ADDRESS PRIVACY UNRELATED TO THE, THE THE SAFETY AUTHORITY.

IN TERMS OF THE LINE OF SIGHT VERSUS BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.

PART 107, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF FAA APPROVED THE 1 MILLION DRONE OPERATORS.

I THINK COMMISSIONER EMERY MAY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS A DRONE PILOT.

AND SO THAT IS VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.

WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY CALLED PART 135 THAT WHAT I MENTIONED, WE WERE CERTIFICATED AS AN AIR CARRIER THAT ACTUALLY DOES ALLOW YOU TO FLY BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT UNDER CERTAIN PARAMETERS WITH THE FAA'S APPROVAL.

SO BASICALLY, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING YOU COMPLY WITH ALL CURRENT LAW.

YES. TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

BECAUSE I READ THERE APPEARED TO BE A DIFFERENCE FOR COMMERCIAL AND THE CHAIRMAN'S RELATIVE WHO FLIES IT JUST BECAUSE HE, YOU KNOW, HE OR SHE.

YEAH. YES. DOES THIS THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT APPLY.

SO TO JUST THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY GET WONKY QUICKLY, BUT PART 107 DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO FLY BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT FOR COMPENSATION AND HIGHER.

SO YOU COULDN'T MAKE A COMMERCIAL DELIVERY BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT WITH THE SAME AUTHORITY THAT, YOU KNOW MOST PEOPLE ARE.

YOU KNOW, A REAL ESTATE BROKER MIGHT BE FILMING A ROOF OR A HOUSE OR THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT YOU SEE.

SO THAT'S WHY A NUMBER OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, OURSELVES INCLUDED, WENT AND GOT CERTIFICATED WITH AUTHORITY THAT ALLOWED US TO TO FLY BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.

ARE YOU A PRIVATE COMPANY? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.

MR. JACOBSEN, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

WE'LL COME BACK AROUND. DID YOU? YEAH. I GOT A COUPLE.

DO YOU DELIVER IN? WILL YOU DELIVER TO BACKYARDS AS WELL AS FRONT YARDS? ABSOLUTELY. AND THE NEXT QUESTION RELATES, WE HAVE BIRD FEEDERS, AND WE SEEM TO HAVE LOTS OF DOVES THAT DON'T SEEM TO FLY IN A STRAIGHT LINE, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M TRYING TO SHOOT THEM.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH BIRDS WHEN YOU TRY TO DELIVER PACKAGES? HAS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. NO, IT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE TO DATE WITH ANY OF OUR GLOBAL.

AND SECONDLY, THIS IS VERY PERSONAL, BUT I MIGHT AS WELL GET IT ALL OUT.

WE'VE GOT TREES ALL OVER OUR HOUSE AND WE'VE GOT LIKE TWO, 10*10 WINDOWS.

COULD YOU DELIVER IN A WINDOW AREA AS SMALL AS THAT OR? I WOULD, I WOULDN'T, I DON'T I DON'T FEEL LIKE I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITHOUT MORE LIKE HONESTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITHOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

BUT WE ARE I MEAN, THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO BE HYPER PRECISE AND BE ABLE TO SERVE 99% PLUS OF AMERICAN HOMES.

AND THIS IS THIS IS A WALMART QUESTION OR TO WALMART.

IS THERE ARE THERE ANY SURCHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DELIVERY.

SO TODAY WE ARE CHARGING $19.99 PER DELIVERY AND $12.99 IF YOU'RE A WALMART PLUS SUBSCRIBER.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE DOING AN INTRODUCTORY PILOT.

AND WE ARE TAKING FEEDBACK, MARKET FEEDBACK, AND WE ARE GOING TO APPLY WALMART'S PRINCIPLES TO BE ABLE TO SCALE TO, TO DRIVE DOWN THAT COST.

SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S TODAY.

I WOULD SAY I WOULD EXPECT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AN ADJUSTMENT.

SO BASICALLY $20 BUCKS A DELIVERY FOR NOW.

YES, SIR. WELL, THERE GO MY TENNIS BALLS.

BUT OKAY. AND SO THERE'S NO.

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IT CAN BE ANYTHING THAT SOMEBODY PAYS $20 BUCKS AND LESS THAN THE APPORTIONED WEIGHT.

SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE REGULATORY RESTRICTIONS ON ITEMS THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THERE.

BUT NOT NOT EVERYTHING IS A COMMODITY PRIORITY AT SOME POINT.

WHEN YOU SAY COMMODITY PRIORITY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN? WOULD MEDICINES AND FOOD BE PLACED FIRST, OR WOULD THERE BE ANY PRIORITY AS FAR AS WALMART IS CONCERNED IN TERMS OF WHAT GETS DELIVERED? NOT AT THE MOMENT.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING BASED OFF OF THE CUSTOMER'S ORDER IN WHICH THEY PLACE THE ORDER.

SO FOR TODAY, THANK YOU.

AND THE ONLY OTHER PIECE I'D ADD IS THAT THAT THAT SERVICE PRICE RIGHT NOW IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET SERVICE OFFERINGS ARE.

AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT PRICE POINT.

I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

THIS IS VERY EXCITING.

COMMISSIONER SMITH, DOES THIS THE USE OF DRONES IN THIS AREA, DOES IT PRECLUDE ANYBODY ELSE FROM PUTTING IN THAT SAME SERVICE? THE ANSWER IS NO.

BUT, CONNOR, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO HOW WE OPERATE WITH OTHER.

YEAH, SURE. SO I ACTUALLY WAS JUST I WAS AT THE FAA REGIONAL OFFICE EARLIER TODAY TALKING.

SO WE HAVE AN APPROVED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BY THE FAA THAT ALLOWS US TO DECONFLICT SAFELY FROM OTHER DRONE OPERATORS AS WELL AS AS WELL AS AIRCRAFT.

SO SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD SHARE AIRSPACE WITH ANOTHER OPERATOR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RULES BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO DFW AIRPORT? YEAH. IT'S THERE ARE CERTAINLY SETBACKS.

THEY'RE OFTEN CALLED LANCE GRIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM AN AIRPORT.

BUT IN A WAY, THERE'S ALSO SORT OF POSITIVES AROUND AIRSPACE MANAGEMENT.

THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSPONDING MANDATORY TRANSPONDING ZONES.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FLY QUITE CLOSE TO AIRPORTS IN A VERY SAFE WAY.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER. YES. WHAT DID YOU SAY THE MAXIMUM THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT THEY'LL BE FLYING AT? 400FT. 400FT.

OKAY. YEAH. ONE QUICK QUESTION.

DID YOU SAY THAT YOU PICK WHERE YOU WANT IT TO PUT THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE ORDERING, AND THEN IT CAN GO TO WHERE THAT IS.

SURE CAN.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE THERE ARE YOU KNOW, WE LIKE I SAID, WE WE DELIVER IN ARKANSAS AT LEAST WE DELIVER PRESCRIPTIONS.

AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CHAIN OF CUSTODY.

AND PART OF THAT IS YOU BEING ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE THE DELIVERY IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND TO BE ABLE TO PICK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO PICK A 15 MINUTE WINDOW, FOR EXAMPLE.

OKAY. AND ONE LAST QUESTION.

WEATHER CONSIDERATIONS.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU TESTED ALL TYPES OF WEATHER CONSIDERATIONS.

THE WEATHER IN TEXAS IS OBVIOUSLY STAND AROUND AND WAIT AND IT WILL CHANGE.

SO HOW IS THAT HANDLED? SO IF I MAKE AN ORDER AND THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT, YOU KNOW, OR I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A WEATHER EVENT.

SO I WANT TO I NEED IT NOW.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO YOU HAVE LIKE DROP OFF PERIODS OR PERIODS WHERE YOU DON'T ACCEPT ORDERS? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? SO THE THE PIECE IN TERMS OF THE WEATHER ENVELOPE, WILL WE HAVE AN APPROVED WEATHER ENVELOPE, YOU KNOW, WHEN TEMPERATURE THINGS LIKE THAT AS PART OF OUR FAA AUTHORIZATIONS AND APPROVALS. AS FAR AS HOW THAT DOWNTIME WOULD GO, FIRST OF ALL, WE STRIVE PART OF THE TESTING RIGOR AND DESIGN RIGOR IS THAT WE WANT TO BE MORE RELIABLE THAN ANY OTHER TRANSPORTATION OPTION, SO WE DON'T EXPECT LOTS OF DOWNTIME.

BUT IF THERE IS IN FACT DOWNTIME, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW IT, MARK, MAYBE.

YEAH. SO BASICALLY, YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY WEATHER IS GOING TO IMPACT THE DRONE'S ABILITY TO OPERATE.

FOR WALMART, WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO FULFILL THE CUSTOMER'S REQUEST.

AND SO IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND THE CUSTOMER WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF CHECKING OUT, THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF MAKING THAT DELIVERY POSSIBLE.

SO BUT YOU COULD TYPICALLY DELIVER IN AN AVERAGE LITTLE RAIN.

OH YEAH.

OH SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ON THE TECH, BUT.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE DECIBELS, THAT WAS A KEY CONCERN OF MINE.

AND CURIOSITY ABOUT OBVIOUSLY, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER THEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SIGN FOR THEM AND OR BOTTLE OF BOOZE TO KIDS. AND JUST.

SO TODAY NO.

THOSE ARE REGULATORY CONTROLLED ITEMS. THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS THAT WE MUST GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET AUTHORIZATION TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

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BUT TODAY, NO, WE DO NOT DELIVER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, MARK, APPRECIATE IT.

APPRECIATE IT. COMMISSIONERS THIS IS AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY TO GET SCHOOLED IN THE FUTURE OF DRONE OPERATION.

ALTHOUGH ALL WE'RE REALLY DOING IS REDRAWING A PLAT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT APPRECIATE YOU FOLKS COMING AND AND SPENDING YOUR TIME TO COME AND SEE US AND GET US EDUCATED.

ANY THOUGHTS, SPECIFICALLY COMMISSIONERS, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAT OR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES? YES, SIR. OKAY, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THIS ITEM.

CHAIRMAN EMERY I, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN CASE NUMBER SITE 24-8 AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE CASE SITE 24-8 AMENDING THE PLAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT AT THE LOT ONE R, BLOCK ONE THE WALMART.

THANK YOU FOLKS.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO COMING AND WATCHING THESE THINGS LAND AND TAKE OFF.

OKAY, SO, COMMISSIONERS, OUR OTHER FUN ACTIVITY THIS EVENING IS GOING TO BE THIS MUCH FUN IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION WITH OUR

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

YES. I'M COMING.

YES, MA'AM. PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.017 TO CONDUCT A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON ANY LEGALLY POSTED AGENDA ITEM WHEN PLANNING AND ZONING SEEKS THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY ABOUT PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION SEMINAR FOR A MATTER WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551.

THIS IS WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD OVER LAND USE, ZONING AND SUBDIVISION PLANNING MATTERS.

APPLICATION OF OPEN GOVERNMENT LAWS.

LIABILITY MATTERS.

I DON'T SEE THAT IN MY PAPERWORK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID I GET THEM? OKAY.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS I HAD IN MY SHEET.

OKAY, LET'S GO IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, FOLKS, AND BE COMFORTABLE AND.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, IT'S 8:05.

WE RECONVENE OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MOVE ON TO A DISCUSSION ITEM TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING AND DISCUSS

[4. Receive a briefing and discuss adopted Planning & Zoning Commission Bylaws. ]

THESE THESE WERE VOTED AND APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.

REPORT FROM STAFF, MR. WES. THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER. CHAIR I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THESE.

I THINK WHEN THE CHAIR AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS ITEM, WE REALLY JUST WANTED THIS TO BE A LITTLE BIT FLUID.

THESE ARE RELATIVELY NEW BYLAWS.

THEY WERE ADOPTED OVER THE SUMMER BY COUNCIL, DRAFTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND STAFF.

IT THEY'VE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM AND YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

I WILL SAY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THESE ARE THESE ARE BYLAWS THAT THAT YOU YOURSELF USE TO GOVERN YOURSELF.

STAFF WILL TYPICALLY NOT STAND UP HERE AND SAY YOU'RE OPERATING OUTSIDE THE BYLAWS, UNLESS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING AGAINST THE CITY ORDINANCE OR AGAINST STATE LAW TO JUST PROTECT YOURSELF. BUT ANYTHING ELSE, WE WE LET YOU GOVERN YOURSELF.

SO AND AND THAT'S WHY I SAID WHILE WE WERE IN THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO DOWN THROUGH THIS NOW AND YOU LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN THE PACKET, YOU WILL SEE HOW IT ADDRESSES SO MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY THE ATTORNEYS.

AND THIS GIVES US A TOOL TO USE COLLECTIVELY AMONGST OURS.

AND AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF NOW HAVING NEW MEMBERS.

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AND THIS WILL GO ON, YOU KNOW, INTO FUTURE COMMISSIONS TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.

WE JUST WE JUST LAID OUT.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THIS.

BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY I TOOK UP A BUNCH OF YOUR TIME BY GIVING SPECIFIC EXAMPLES IN THAT PRESENTATION AS TO WHERE WE'VE RUN ACROSS THIS IN THE PAST, BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF IT IN THE, THE, THE BUMPS IN THE ROAD THAT WE HAD BEFORE IS WHAT PRECIPITATED US TAKING THE TIME TO WRITE THIS FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

SO WES THANK YOU FOR BEING SUPPORTIVE AS THIS WAS COMING ALONG.

AND IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A TRAINING TOOL, BUT ALSO A REFERENCE TOOL FOR HOW WE OPERATE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

YES, SIR. IS THERE ANYTHING BUILT IN TO THIS PROCEDURE THAT COMES UP AGAIN, AS IN, IT'LL BE REVIEWED AGAIN IN A PARTICULAR TIME? IS THIS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT OR IS THIS THIS? IS IT BECAUSE LAWS AND REGULATIONS WILL CHANGE? WELL, THIS COMMISSION COULD WE COULD AS A COMMISSION RECOMMEND AN AMENDMENT OR A CHANGE TO THIS VOTE ON THIS AND THEN SEND IT TO COUNCIL FOR THEM TO CHANGE IT.

SO WE RUN INTO AFTER WE WORK THIS A WHILE, WE CAN AMEND.

WE CAN WE AS OUR AS A COMMISSION CAN RECOMMEND CHANGES AND ADDITIONS TO THIS DOCUMENT.

SO YES, IN THAT CASE IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT FOR US, TO US TO MONITOR AS WE SEE FIT OR AS NECESSARY.

WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES TO THIS SINCE WE LAST VISITED.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT, OR AT LEAST IT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW.

I YES, ON THAT NOTE, BEFORE, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN P&Z MADE THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND SIT ON THE COUNCIL BETWEEN THAT RECOMMENDATION, YOU ALSO HAD SOME CONDITIONS OF THAT APPROVAL. STAFF CLEANED UP THOSE ISSUES.

YES. SO ARE WE MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE WE OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME ON THIS? ON THE BYLAWS? RIGHT. YES, SIR.

WE ARE. OKAY.

WE'RE NOT. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY.

SO WE WOULDN'T BE VOTING.

BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

YES. OKAY.

OKAY. AWESOME.

SO. OKAY.

I MEAN, LET ME FLIP TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AND I KIND OF ADDRESSED THIS SOMEWHAT DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE JUST HAD.

GO TO 6.3 AND THAT'S ON THE THREE MINUTES.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN ENOUGH PEOPLE PRESENT HERE OVER THE YEARS.

I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE PROBABLY LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS DAIS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FIVE MINUTES RATHER THAN THREE.

IF NO ONE HAS ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, TO GIVE THOSE APPLICANTS, I DON'T KNOW WHY I THINK BACK.

REMEMBER THE LADIES THAT HAD AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN THE PEJORATIVE, THEY HAD A MASSAGE BUSINESS AND THEN ALL THOSE PEOPLE, I WANT TO GO IN AND GET A MASSAGE.

IT SOUNDED SO GOOD, BUT THEY WERE IMPASSIONED.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, BUT TO GIVE PEOPLE ADEQUATE TIME TO PRESENT WHAT THEY WANT.

AND THAT'S THAT.

THAT'S ONE COMMENT THAT I HAD.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, AND I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT BRYNN COVERED, BECAUSE HE MENTIONED THAT IF WE VOTE NO OR NAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A REASON.

WHY WOULD THAT BE THE SAME FOR AN ABSTAIN? I CAN'T THINK OF THE TIME I'VE BEEN ON HERE.

I DON'T EVER REMEMBER ABSTAINING.

BUT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE.

BUT WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND ABSTAINING? AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE A REASON FOR YOUR ABSTENTION? I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG ON THE LEGAL SIDE.

BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS, THE GOAL WAS NOT TO IF YOU WERE GOING TO ABSTAIN, YOU HAD TO HAVE A VALID REASON TO ABSTAIN. IT WASN'T JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ACT ON IT.

AND SO I THINK THAT WAS THE GOAL.

AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WERE IN THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

BUT THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION OF THE CONVERSATION AT THAT TIME.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR.

NO, BECAUSE THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WHAT THIS WAS INTENDED TO COVER THOSE AREAS WHERE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE LIKE A FREQUENT CUSTOMER OF THAT BUSINESS OR IT'S NOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ONE OF THEM, ONCE UPON A TIME, HAD TO DO WITH THE CHURCH AND HAD DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT WAS NOT REALLY A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT IT WAS IT DIDN'T QUALIFY AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT IT WAS A I CAN'T I'M NOT GOING TO GO ON THE RECORD TO

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AND IT WAS LIKE A MEMBER OF A OF A GROUP OR A, YOU KNOW, CONGREGATION.

LIKE SAY, IT WASN'T A REAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PUT A YOU NEEDED TO SAY, WELL IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S ALMOST A NO VOTE IN A SENSE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MAKING A VOTE, SO YOU'RE NOT.

YEAH. AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A REASON FOR A NO VOTE, WHICH WAS JUST TOLD TO US.

SURE. CITY ATTORNEY.

SO I'M THROWING THAT OUT.

AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM AND THAT'S 7.5.

IT SAID THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS SHALL NOT, AND MAYBE MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WAY I'M READING THIS, SHALL NOT LEAVE THE MEETING DAIS TO DISCUSS PENDING MATTERS WITH MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, NOR SHALL MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE DISCUSS MATTERS.

I THINK A NUMBER OF US WHO HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR A WHILE.

WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER, YOU WALK OUT.

SOMETIMES THESE PEOPLE KNOW YOU, RIGHT? OR THEY ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

AND I'VE CERTAINLY TALKED WITH FOLKS.

THE VOTE'S BEEN DONE IN MOST CASES, AND YOU JUST MOVE ON.

OR IS THIS TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE LITERALLY GETTING UP FROM THE DAIS? IT MEANS SPECIFICALLY DURING THE MEETING AND WE HAD A CASE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE MAP WAS ON THE SCREEN AND SOMEBODY GOT UP AND WANTED TO GO OVER AND KIND OF LIKE DO A POINTER WITH SOMEBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE, ON A MAP, ON THE SCREEN, FROM THE DAIS.

OKAY. DURING THE MEETING, BEFORE THE MOTION, BEFORE THE VOTE.

AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STAFF FOR THAT.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS JUST TO PUT SOME PARAMETERS ON.

IF STAFF NEEDED TO GO AND HELP THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE MAP OR THE DRAWING THAT WAS ON THERE, LIKE, WHICH LOT IS YOURS AND WHERE'S YOUR HOUSE? AND IT HAD TO DO, I THINK, WITH THE CHEEK-SPARGER DEVELOPMENT AND A COUPLE OF THINGS, LIKE JUST A COUPLE THAT WERE A SPEAKER WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOMETHING ON THE SCREEN. OKAY.

AND A COMMISSIONER WENT TO GO HELP.

WELL, THEN I CONCUR. JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I CONCUR WITH 7.5.

BASED ON [INAUDIBLE] I WAS READING IT INCORRECTLY, BUT THE OTHER TWO GIVING A REASON FOR ABSTENTION AND THEN GIVING THE APPLICANT A LITTLE MORE TIME. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

AND USUALLY WE ARE NOT USUALLY, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AS PACKED SOMETIMES AS A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE YOU HAVE PERSON AFTER PERSON.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S TIME IS VALUABLE, BUT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO GIVE THAT PERSON ADEQUATE TIME TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

FORTUNATELY, IN THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE IT WRITTEN IN HERE, BUT DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, WE COULD IN ANY PARTICULAR CASE SOMEBODY'S STILL TALKING.

WE COULD LET IT HAPPEN.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SPEAKERS FOR MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.

YES, BUT THE INTENT IN THIS SPECIFIC THING WAS BASED ON, LIKE, TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

YEAH, YOU COULD GET THAT AND WHATEVER, WHETHER IT'S FIVE MINUTES.

SO WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY NICE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US THAT HAVE BEEN I DON'T KNOW, IT'S SUCH IT'S BEEN SUCH AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION OR THEIR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SUCH. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE BEEN KEEPING TIME.

NO, NOBODY. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KEEPS TIME.

NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. THERE I WAS JUST I JUST SAW THE THREE IN THERE AND I THOUGHT MAYBE FIVE.

I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU KIND OF KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT, IF IT FEELS LIKE IT'S GETTING LONG.

YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF WATCHING THE CLOCK ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IT'S LIKE, THIS IS GETTING KIND OF LONG.

YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, POINT OF ORDER.

WE HAVE IN OUR PROCEDURES THAT ARE POSTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TIME LIMIT IS SUCH AND SUCH.

YEAH. AND THEN CONFER WITH THE ATTORNEY.

IT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THE FIRST PERSON SPEAKING.

OKAY. IN ORDER TO HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE TO CONSISTENCY.

YEAH. YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK AND THEN OH, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE OUR RULES.

YEAH. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BYLAWS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SAY THAT IN THE PAST, WHEN THERE'S A WHOLE ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THAT NECESSARILY.

RIGHT. COULD THERE BE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

AND THAT'S AN OFFICIAL ACT.

YOU KNOW, WE CUT THEM AT THREE.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THEN THERE'S A MOTION MADE TO EXTEND THE TIME.

COULD THAT BE THEN IT'S.

IN HERE IT DOES STATE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MIC]. MOTION WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT.

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BUT I WANT TO BRING UP ARTICLE TWO, ITEM 2.4.

AND THAT'S THE ELIGIBILITY FOR REMOVAL OF A MEMBER.

AS I LOOKED AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT IT SEEMS REDUNDANT THAT BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF THINGS, THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS NO SUCH LANGUAGE, NOR DOES THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAVE SUCH LANGUAGE, AND WHEREAS ANY MEMBER OF THE P&Z CAN ALSO BE REMOVED BY A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL FOR CAUSE.

AND WHEREAS WE ARE A MEMBER, WE'RE NOW A COMMISSION WITH TWO ALTERNATE ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

I GUESS AS I LOOK AT IT, TO ME THIS SEEMS REDUNDANT AND NOT QUITE HELPFUL.

SO THAT'S JUST A CHANCE.

AND HAVING LOOKED AT THAT, IT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CREATING AN ADDITIONAL BUREAUCRACY WHEN IT'S NOT REQUIRED QUITE HONESTLY, I THOUGHT.

MY I AND UNDERSTAND I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IN CHANGING THAT IS THAT THAT'S RELATED TO AN ORDINANCE OR MAYBE A SECTION OF THE CHARTER OR MAYBE BOTH IN THAT CASE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE AT THIS POINT.

SO IT IT'S JUST REFERENCING RULES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

BUT I THINK MR. JACOBSON'S COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T FOLLOW THAT AS THE HIGHEST BODY IN THIS CITY, ELECTED BODY.

WE'RE JUST APPOINTED AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO I BELIEVE THE BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO REMOVE A MEMBER IF WE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE COLOR.

WELL, WE'VE ALL GOT THE SAME COLOR SHIRT, DECIDED TO TO REMOVE ONE OR THE CHAIR CAN RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO REMOVE SOMEBODY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER, IN MY TIME I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN, BUT IT'S I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE WHEN YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST BODY DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

AND WE DO.

IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. I WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT, I CAN'T SPECIFY.

I CAN JUST SAY WHAT THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE IS AND WHAT THE CHARTER LANGUAGE IS.

SO IF YOU WANT AN ORDINANCE TO BE CHANGED, THEN THAT COULD BE A REQUEST TO COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION TO CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE IT COULD BE CHANGED BY THE COUNCIL, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE CHARTER? WELL, THAT SECTION, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SECTION 2.4.

CORRECT? YES. THAT SECTION REFERENCES CITY CODE, CITY ORDINANCES AND THE CHARTER.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE BOTH.

OKAY. DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT SECTION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WHEN THIS WAS BEING PUT TOGETHER, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AMBIGUITIES BETWEEN CHARTER AND ORDINANCES AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS AN APPROPRIATE LONG TERM DOCUMENT, BY REFERENCING THE ORDINANCES OR THE CHARTER POINTS IN IT, WHEN THOSE GET CHANGED, IT THEN DE FACTO UPDATES AND CHANGES OUR DOCUMENT.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE THOSE AS A BODY, WE CAN'T CHANGE THOSE.

BUT IF COUNCIL CHANGES THEM, THEN IT CHANGES OUR DOCUMENT.

AND THAT WAS THE ONLY THINKING ABOUT MY REFERENCING THINGS IN HERE.

WHY WE WHY WE DID THAT.

NOW, THE FACT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THOSE CHAPTERS, BUT THAT'S WHAT APPLIES TO THIS COMMISSION AT THIS TIME, BY CITY LAW, BY CITY ORDINANCE, AND AS, AS.

WE RECENTLY HAD A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

SO I DON'T I DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO MAYBE THIS POINT IS MOOT.

IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID, THE HIGHEST BODY DOESN'T ABIDE BY THOSE SAME CONDITIONS.

AND SO OH NO, I KNOW, I AGREE.

AND THAT WAS I SAID WHEN WE WERE SEEING THIS AND IT WAS LIKE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, BUT WE CAN'T WE COULDN'T PUT SOMETHING IN OUR BYLAWS THAT VIOLATED OR IT WAS CONTRARY TO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, EXISTING OR IN THE ORDINANCE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT REMOVAL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THESE ARE TAKING WORD FROM WORD FROM FROM THAT CHAPTER.

THAT'S THE PART OF WHAT BRAND DID AFTER WE APPROVED.

THEN THEY WENT IN AND ADDED THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FROM THE ORDINANCES.

WELL, I MEAN, WE REFERENCED IT AND WE REFERENCED THE, THE NOT LIKE THE, THE 2-170.

AND THEN HE MADE SURE THAT THE WORDS SPECIFICALLY MATCHED WHAT WAS IN THE CHARTER OR IN THE ORDINANCES, SO THAT THIS DIDN'T CONFLICT.

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AM I CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST A CODE OF ORDINANCE THING, THEN THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST CITY COUNCIL THING.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A CHARTER DEAL.

WES. SO THE WAY THAT SECTION READS, I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT OUT LOUD FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND PURSUANT TO SECTION 2-170 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, ANY MEMBER WHO HAS TWO ABSENCES WITHIN A PHYSICAL YEAR, AS DEFINED BY SECTION 4.01 OF THE CHARTER.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO STOP THERE FOR THE POINT OF THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT SO IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE, IF YOUR ISSUE WAS WITH THE TWO ABSENCES, WE'D NEED TO CHANGE CITY CODE, RIGHT? WHICH IS EASIER TO DO THAN CHANGING THE CITY CHARTER.

IF YOUR ISSUE IS WITH THE WAY THE FISCAL YEAR IS DEFINED, WE'D NEED TO CHANGE THE CITY CHARTER.

OKAY? OKAY.

YEAH. THE CHARTER JUST DEFINES THE THE DATES OF THE CALENDAR OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY, OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT 6.4 AND 6.5 I'M LOOKING AT IT, IT SAYS SO YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN YOU SAY APPLICANT AND CITIZENS, NO MORE TESTIMONY.

TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR SOME QUESTIONS.

AND IF WE ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THE NEXT THING SAYS.

BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, APPLICANTS GIVEN TEN MINUTE REBUTTAL TO ANYTHING SAID AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, I ASSUME SO.

6.5 IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE 6.4 AS FAR PART OF THE PUBLIC MEETING.

SO YES, THAT GIVES PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO THE APPLICANT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE OR REBUT.

I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHY THE 6.4 SAYS THE APPLICANT MAY NOT PRESENT.

AND I'M LIKE, AND THEN YOU GIVE THEM, THEN YOU SAY YOU GIVE THEM TEN MINUTES.

OBVIOUSLY THE WORD TESTIMONY IS DIFFERENT THAN REBUTTAL, BUT SUBTLETY THERE.

I'M JUST IT JUST SEEMED WEIRD TO ME THAT WE SAY THEY SHALL NOT SPEAK AFTER WE CLOSE THE HEARING.

AND THEN WE SAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM TEN MINUTES OF REBUTTAL.

NOT A BIG DEAL. JUST JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

OBVIOUSLY TESTIMONY IS DIFFERENT THAN REBUTTAL.

I YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK.

JUST AS AN ANSWER.

YEAH. I INTEND TO GIVE THEM TEN MINUTES AFTER EVERY PUBLIC HEARING TO SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT.

I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WE'VE ALREADY HAD TONIGHT, YOU DON'T WANT TO EVER REALLY SHUT OFF THE APPLICANT.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS, EVEN IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO GO 20 MINUTES OVER, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATION WOULD SAY YOU CAN STOP THEM.

I THINK IT'S JUST A GUIDELINE.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THEM SPEAKING.

I'M JUST WORRIED THAT UP HERE WE SAY THEY SHALL NOT.

YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND IT ACTUALLY, IN ALL IN ALL FAIRNESS, PROBABLY 6.4 PROBABLY REALLY OUGHT TO BE LIKE SIX, SIX, 6.2 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CHRONOLOGY, THE INFORMATION IS NOT NECESSARILY IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER AS TO HOW IT WOULD APPEAR OR OCCUR IN A MEETING.

IT JUST ADDRESSES THE SUBJECT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CHRONOLOGICAL STEP BY STEP, BUT I SEE YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, THAT IT REALLY 6.5. IT SHOULD REALLY PROBABLY BE RIGHT AFTER 6.3 IN THE PROCESS OF THE MEETING, I THINK IS, YOU KNOW, THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET TO 6.4 WHEN YOU'VE HAD ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T FOLLOW AFTER 6.4.

IT REALLY SHOULD PROBABLY TECHNICALLY MAYBE BE UNDER 6.3.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT WE ADDRESSED THE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE TOPIC.

SO YEAH. BUT YEAH DID DID WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH ABSTAIN I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE WERE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THE THREE TO THE FIVE MINUTES, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT YOU HAD TO GIVE THE REASON THAT YOU ABSTAINED.

WELL, TWO THINGS, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, RIGHT? WE COULD ASK STAFF IN OUR DISCUSSION HERE, TAKE A COUPLE NOTES.

AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO SAY, DO WE HAVE SOME TWEAKS TO IT AND DECIDE IF WE WANT TO MAKE A SPECIFIC.

WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO 8.1, IT SAYS AMENDMENTS THE COMMISSION MAY MAKE MAY RECOMMEND AN AMENDMENT TO THESE BYLAWS BY THE MAJORITY VOTE AT A REGULAR MEETING.

IF ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR CONVEYING? MAYBE TO WES TO DO.

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THESE ARE THESE. THESE WERE PASSED.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING? YES, MA'AM.

SINCE I ADMIT I DID NOT REQUEST THESE.

ARE THESE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE? THESE ARE NOT FOUND ON THE WEBSITE.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN EMAILED TO EVERYONE.

BUT THIS IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY PUT ON THE WEBSITE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING. SURE.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. ITEM FOR STAFF REPORT IS UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS.

[UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS]

THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF PAST, EITHER PAST APPLICATIONS OR ONGOING DEVELOPMENTS THAT THAT WE LIKE TO IF CHANGES ARE HAPPENING, WE LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF. YOU'LL NOTE THAT THINGS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE THE CHANGES FROM YOUR LAST ONE, YOUR LAST UPDATE THAT I PROVIDED.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK.

GATEWAY ADDITION, WHICH IS PROPERTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS CAMPUS WEST ON THE CORNER OF 157 AND AIRPORT FREEWAY.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, AND THOSE PLANS ARE UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW FOR BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL.

LAST COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS THAT YOU SAW, AND I REALIZE THIS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE'VE ALL SEEN EACH OTHER, BUT I'M SORRY, SAINT PATRICK CHURCH, YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT SUP.

COUNCIL APPROVED THAT SUP AND A CO HAS BEEN ISSUED.

MGM AUTOMOTIVE.

THAT WAS FOR AN SUP FOR AUTOMOTIVE SALES AT 223 BEDFORD ROAD.

YOU RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THAT REQUEST, AND COUNCIL DENIED THAT REQUEST.

TREES WILDERNESS, WHICH WAS AN SUP FOR A MASSAGE SALON AT 1105 BEDFORD ROAD.

YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

COUNCIL APPROVED THAT REQUEST AND A CO HAS BEEN ISSUED.

CHURCH OF THE CITY, WHICH IS A RELIGIOUS FACILITY AT 111 BEDFORD ROAD.

YOU ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT SUP AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AS WELL.

EVERYBODY KNOWS AND EVERYBODY HAS A HARD COPY NOW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER AS WELL.

YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT IN AUGUST.

AND THEN THERE WAS A TEMPORARY USES TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AS WELL.

REAL QUICK, JUST AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON AT THE LAST TUESDAY OR THIS THIS TUESDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH [INAUDIBLE] TO UPDATE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

THAT IS REALLY THE FIRST BIG STEP IN IMPLEMENTING OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE WITH ALL THE EXTRA MEETINGS AND ALL THE THE FUN LANGUAGE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU'RE NOT.

YOU'RE ABOUT TO DIVE RIGHT BACK INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO, GET READY IN 2025.

WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

I LIED, I DO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE.

JUST A SECOND. I MADE NOTES AND I FORGOT THAT I MADE NOTES.

NOPE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT VICE CHAIR? SO AT YOUR NEXT. I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT ON THE VERY FIRST MEETING WITH EVERY NEW.

I WANTED EVERYBODY TO KIND OF GET TO KNOW EVERYBODY.

SO AT YOUR NEXT MEETING THAT WILL BE ON THAT AGENDA.

JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES.

FOR THOSE MEMBERS THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CITY OF BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION POLO.

PLEASE GET WITH ME AFTER THE MEETING, ME OR ENRIQUE, AND GIVE US YOUR SHIRT SIZE, AND WE'LL GET YOU A POLO.

AND IF YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN YOUR NAME TAG, WHICH I KNOW NOW, WE'VE AT LEAST GOT ONE, LET US KNOW THAT AND WE'LL GET YOU A NAME TAG AS WELL.

LEAVE THE NAME TAGS HERE.

YOU TAKE THEM WITH YOU OR REMEMBER TO BRING THEM BACK.

YES, THAT'S THE TEST.

THAT'S THE TEST.

ONE SMALL THING WES IN THE REPORTS.

I THOUGHT TIME TIME RIFT WAS A 2024 CASE.

BUT THEY ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

THAT IS CORRECT. THEY WERE PACKED TIGHT WHEN I PASSED BY THERE.

YEAH, IT'S A BIG PARKING LOTS.

THERE IS. SO THAT'S THAT'S GOING WELL.

THE OTHER THING IS PROJECTED NEXT MEETING, WILL WE HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING ON THE 12TH OR NO? YES. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR THE 12TH.

SO IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON DECEMBER 12TH.

ARE WE HAVING A CHRISTMAS PARTY ON DECEMBER 12TH? WE'VE NEVER DONE A CHRISTMAS PARTY BEFORE, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO ARE YOU REQUESTING ONE THIS YEAR? CERTAINLY. I'LL HAVE TO POST AN AGENDA FOR THAT.

WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT.

YOU'LL DEFINITELY GET A MERRY CHRISTMAS EMAIL FROM ME, AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE FUTURE MEETINGS.

BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING SLATED FOR A DECEMBER MEETING.

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE COULD KEEP THAT OPEN, BUT.

YEAH. WATCH YOUR EMAIL.

I WILL DEFINITELY EMAIL YOU WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK TO LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

OKAY. WE MIGHT WE MIGHT BE INTERESTED WITH SEVERAL NEW MEMBERS OF HAVING SOME KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE PLANNING WORKSHOP KIND OF THING SO.

OKAY. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AND FORMALLY AGAIN ON THE RECORD.

WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE AND AND BE HERE.

AND NOT ALL MEETINGS ARE THIS LONG.

YES. BUT THIS WAS A GOOD ONE.

I THINK IT'S FORTUNATE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY OFF ON THIS KIND OF FOOTING RIGHT OFF THE FIRST, THE FIRST MEETING.

SO BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE WITH US AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'LL ENTERTAIN THE LAST MOTION.

TO ADJOURN. AND I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S DONE.

08:32.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.