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ENOUGH TO,

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OKAY.

[4B Street Improvement/Economic Development Corporation Meeting on August 20, 2024.]

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

TIME IS SIX O'CLOCK.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THIS, UH, MEETING, UH, TO ORDER FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

IT IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2024.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

WELCOME, TOM.

THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

UM, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THINGS OFF WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

SO WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE FEB, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.

THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THE CORPORATION MET.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS A MOMENT.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO.

WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, BY DIRECTOR LOPER.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

BOARD.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU STAFF AND JUST, JUST SAYING, GUYS, YOU GUYS DID BETTER THAN SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, GOOD JOB ON THE VOTING.

GREAT JOB.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND UP.

UH, WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS.

SO NEXT UP IS STAFF REPORT ON THE STATUS OF, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24 STREET IMPROVEMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROJECTS.

UH, AND I GIVE YOU CITY ENGINEER JOE SCHWEITZER.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

SO, I KNOW, UH, A NUMBER OF YOU ARE RELATIVELY NEW TO THE BOARD, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOW STILL WITHIN 60 DAYS SINCE I'VE BEEN, UH, SINCE JOINED THE CITY.

SO I WANTED TO START A LITTLE BIT OF WELCOME.

HOW'S, HOW'S EVERY BEEN TREATING YOU? SO FAR? SO GOOD.

SO GOOD.

YEAH.

NO, HAZING GOING ON? NEVER.

OKAY.

.

NEVER.

NOT AT ALL.

UM, SO I DID WANT TO, UH, START IT WITH THIS, UH, THIS SLIDE THAT KIND OF SHOWS, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE PAST, UH, PRESENTATIONS WHERE THIS IS BASICALLY EVERYTHING GOING ON CONSTRUCTION WISE IN THE CITY.

THIS IS, UH, THE, THE CITY RUN AND, AND FUNDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, INCLUDING BEDFORD ROAD UTILITIES, JOINER ACRES, BELL MANOR, PARKWOOD DRIVE, RECONSTRUCTION, DEUCE DRIVE, UH, THE RECENTLY COMPLETED UTILITY PORTIONS UNDER PIPELINE.

AND, UH, AND WE'RE JUST GETTING READY TO START PHYLLIS.

UM, IT ALSO SHOWS HERE, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, IN DESIGN PORTIONS ON, UH, IN THE BEDFORD AND GREGORY COURT SECTIONS, AND ALONG, UH, HARWOOD AND MARTIN WATERLINE.

UM, ALSO SHOWN OUR OUTSIDE AGENCY PROJECTS SUCH AS, UH, THE TECH STOP PROJECT AT CHEEKS, BARGER, AND 1 21, UM, AND PUBLIC OR, UM, PRIVATE, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FUNDED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS, UH, AMHERST GRACE PARK, PARKWOOD OAKS, THE DENALI EDITION, AND SEVERAL OTHERS.

SO THIS IS A BIG 30,000 FOOT LEVEL VIEW OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY.

YEAH.

EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, KIND OF JUST TO, TO SET A TONE KIND OF A THING.

GOTCHA.

UM, SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR TONIGHT IS THE STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM SUMMARY.

I'LL GO THROUGH, UH, WHAT, HOW WE SCORE AND HOW WE, UH, PRIORITIZE ROADS WITH USING A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OR PCI SCORING.

UM, AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE, UM, UH, A THREE TIERED APPROACH WE USE TO MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE ROADS.

AND THEN, UH, TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED JUST IN THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY.

ALL SOUNDS GOOD.

SO, PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, YOU'LL NOTICE THE NUMBERS HERE ARE NOT, UH, QUITE IN LINE WITH A TYPICAL SCHOOL GRADE SCORE OF A BCD, WHERE DS ARE 60% POOR IS NOW 40%, UM, UH, 40% AND BELOW.

UM, YOU WILL SEE, UH, THAT IN JUST THESE LAST, UH, UM, SINCE WE, WE, OUR LAST EVALUATION OF THE STREETS WAS IN 2021, UM, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE, UH, TRACKED THE, UM, SLOW KIND OF CALCULATED DEGRADATION OF STREETS OVER TIME AS, AS HAPPENS, AND WE'VE TRACKED THE CHANGES MADE BY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO, TO THE OVERALL SCORE.

SO YOU'VE BEEN TRACKING EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN SINCE, SINCE THEN IN 2021, ALL OF THE, UM, PAVEMENT, PRESERVATIONS, ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OF ALL THE STREETS, AS WELL AS KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE CORRECT, DETERIORATING OVER TIME.

YEAH.

THERE'S, THERE'S A SET CALCULATED, UH, DETERIORATION RIGHT NOW THAT JUST IS AN APPROXIMATION.

OBVIOUSLY SOME STREETS WITH, UH, UH, DAMAGE FROM ROOTS, UM, OR UH, OR TREE DAMAGE IN, UH, IN OTHER EXTERIOR FACTORS IS, IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR GOTCHA.

IN

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THOSE CALCULATIONS.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE NEVER, WE NEVER DID THIS PREVIOUSLY TO GET KIND OF A OVERALL CONDITION OF OUR ROADS UP UNTIL THAT POINT.

AND THEN THIS GAVE US A GOOD, GOOD SNAPSHOT.

AND SO WE'RE USING DATA TO SEE, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST TO SEE WHERE THE ROADS ARE OVER TIME.

AND SO IT MIGHT NOT BE COMPLETELY ACCURATE, BUT IT DOES GIVE US SOME SORT OF DATA TO WORK WITH.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, YOU WILL SEE, GUESS THAT, UH, IN THE LAST TWO SECTIONS THERE, BETWEEN OCTOBER 23 AND MAY 24, WE DID SLIDE A LITTLE BIT INTO THE FAIR, UH, MORE FAIR AS OPPOSED TO GOOD.

UM, AND THAT IS, UH, BASED ON THE CURRENT NUMBER OF UTILITY PROJECTS GOING ON, WE CAN'T IMPROVE THE STREETS UNTIL WE IMPROVE THE UTILITIES BELOW THEM.

SO BEDFORD ROAD, THE, THE COMPLEX OF STREETS, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, INCLUDING THE AIRPORT FREEWAY, UM, RUSSELL RAVENWOOD, THE BEL MANOR IMPROVEMENTS, PARKWOOD, DEUCE, PHYLLIS, GREGORY, BEDFORD COURTS, ALL OF THAT WORK IN THE UTILITIES UNDER THE STREETS HAS TO GET DONE BEFORE WE IMPROVE THE STREET ITSELF.

GOTCHA.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WORK TWICE.

EXACTLY.

AND, AND THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES IN OUR HISTORY WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE, UNFORTUNATELY THE CITY HAS DONE THAT RIGHT.

AND THERE AGO, UH, LONG AGO, UH, THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ONE-OFF YEP.

INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND CHANGE A WATER LINE A YEAR AFTER WE PAVED THE ROAD.

GOTCHA, GOTCHA.

NOT PLANNED THAT WAY.

YEAH.

UM, OBVIOUSLY, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE GOOD, VERY GOOD AND THE EXCELLENT CATEGORIES AND UP AND UP.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 20 22, 70 5%, UH, IN 2023 MAY, WE'RE AT 80% OCTOBER 80.9%.

SO WE'RE HOLDING AT 80%.

AND THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OR AT LEAST IN MAY, ABOUT 76%.

SO WE SLIPPED A LITTLE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S DUE TO US JUST GOING IN THERE, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF UTILITIES FIRST AND THEN GOING BACK THROUGH AND TAKING CARE OF THE ROAD? CORRECT.

THE CURRENT UTILITY PROJECTS WILL, WILL, WILL LET THEM SIT FOR SOME AMOUNT OF TIME AFTER THE UTILITIES ARE DONE, MAKE SURE THAT ANY SETTLEMENT IN THE UTILITY TRENCHES HAPPENS BEFORE WE PUT A NEW STREET ON IT TO HOPEFULLY GET THE BEST LONG-TERM, UM, UM, PROJECT.

GOTCHA.

IS THERE A, THE BOARD AVERAGE OF SOME SORT THAT, SO WE'VE GOT 80%, LET'S SAY ACROSS THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, THESE HAVE 85%, OR MOST ARE 80%.

IS IS THERE AN AVERAGE THERE SOMEWHERE? I DON'T KNOW OF A, LIKE, GENERALLY ACCEPTED STANDARD OF WHERE YOUR ROAD SHOULD BE.

UM, OKAY.

YOU CAN IMAGINE A, UH, SMALLER CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO FLUCTUATE THAT NUMBER QUITE A BIT MORE THAN A LARGER CITY LIKE FORT WORTH OR DALLAS, WHERE IT'S JUST MILES AND MILES OF IMPROVEMENTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO, TO CHANGE THAT, EVEN A PERCENTAGE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE OVER, UM, JUST A, JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST YEARS, WE'VE HAD SWINGS OF 5%.

SO, UM, I, I THINK, UH, TRYING TO ESTABLISH A AVERAGE VALUE OR A GOAL VALUE IS SOMETHING TYPICALLY LEFT UP TO, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND, AND A BOARD IS SUCH AS YOURSELVES TO JUST DETERMINE HOW MUCH FUNDING YOU WANT TO PUT INTO STREETS.

AND IS 70 GOOD FOR YOU? OR IS 75 WHERE YOU WANNA SEE IT? GOOD QUESTION.

SO, AND, AND ALSO, WE'LL NEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEVER REACH, YOU KNOW, 90, YOU KNOW, 99% OR 98%.

'CAUSE OVER TIME, AGAIN, AS SOON AS YOU PAVE A ROAD, IT'S, IT'S DETERIORATING.

AND SO YOU'LL NEVER REACH THAT A HUNDRED AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET TO A PLATEAU EFFECT, BASICALLY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

WHERE YOU REACH YOUR, YOUR MAXIMUM AMOUNT.

SO YEAH.

CORRECT.

UM, THE, THE DAY AFTER YOU PAVE A ROAD, UM, THE, THE MAIN NATURAL ENEMIES OF THE ROAD, UH, OTHER THAN UTILITIES COMING THROUGH AND TRYING TO TEAR 'EM UP AGAIN, INCLUDING, UH, UV, UH, HEAT WATER, ALL STARTED ATTACKING IT FROM DAY ONE.

UM, TRYING TO, UH, THAT'LL GET INTO A, A, A CRACK AND FREEZE AND THAW CYCLES WILL EXPAND CRACKS.

WATER SLOWLY GETS DOWN INTO THE MATERIALS BELOW THE ROAD, THE SOIL MATERIALS, THE CLAY, IT BECOMES SOFTER AND DOESN'T SUPPORT, UM, THE, THE, THE LOADING OF THE VEHICLES.

UM, SO THOSE WILL, UH, WILL HAPPEN FROM DAY ONE.

GOTCHA.

UM, YEAH, SO TO TRY AND, UH, SO HERE'S THE, UH, THIS WAS NOT IN YOUR PACKET.

SO WE REALIZED, UH, LOOKING THROUGH STUFF TODAY THAT WE HAD TO, HADN'T SHOWN THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF THE PCI SCORES.

UM, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE, UH, MOST IS SOME SHADE OF GREEN, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE 80% IS GOOD OR BETTER.

UM, WE DO HAVE A FEW AREAS, UM, THAT, UH, COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, IN THE SECOND PART OF THE PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD THIS NEXT YEAR.

GOTCHA.

GOTCHA.

UM, ANDREW, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UM, SEND THIS OUT TO THE BOARD TOO WHENEVER, AFTER THE MEETING, JUST SO WE ALL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND, AND FOR FUTURE REFERENCE WHEN WE MEET BACK

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HERE IN, UM, JANUARY, FEBRUARY? YEAH, THAT'D BE THE, UH, THE THOROUGHFARE PORTIONS OF THIS WERE IN THE PACKET, JUST NOT THE OVERALL LOCAL STREETS.

GOTCHA.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YEAH, I THINK HAVING THE MAP IS, IS BENEFICIAL, SEEING WHERE ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE AT AND THE DIFFERENT STREETS.

SO, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, THE FIRST, UH, THE FIRST, UH, I SAID A THREE TIERED APPROACH.

UM, FIRST IS, UH, THE EASIEST THING, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA DO MOST EFFECTIVELY IS TRY AND KEEP THE STREETS TO A HIGHER SCORE.

UM, UH, I SAID ONE OF THE, THE MAIN ENEMIES OF, OF ROADS IS, UH, UV AND WATER.

WELL, ONE OF THE WAYS, ONE OF THE WAYS TO TRY AND PROLONG A STREET IS TO KEEP BOTH OF THOSE AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL ASPHALT.

THE, UH, THE UV AND THE HEAT WILL AGE AND EVAPORATE SOME OF THE OILS OUT OF THE, UH, THE BINDER, UH, WATER WILL GET IN AND EXPAND AND, AND CAUSE CRACKING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT YOU CAN DO IS PREVENT A MAINTENANCE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS HERE, DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, DIFFERENT APPROACHES, UH, DONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROADS.

IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, THE CITY HAS, UH, HAS ELECTED TO GO WITH H HA FIVE, UM, WHICH WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS THAT, UH, EVERYBODY GETS OR THAT WE GET WHILE WE'RE APPLYING IT, IS, IT LOOKS LIKE PAINT.

IT LOOKS VERY THIN, IT LOOKS LIKE PAINT.

IT GOES ON JUST A COUPLE OF MILLIMETERS THICK.

BUT IT'S A, UH, IT'S AN OIL, IT'S AN EMULSION PRODUCT THAT HAS SOME VERY FINE DENSE AGGREGATES IN IT.

SO SOME SAND, SOME VERY FINE SAND IN IT THAT HELPS TO SEAL OUT WATER, HELPS TO SEAL IN THE BINDERS TO KEEP THEM FROM EVAPORATING AND CAUSING THE, UH, THE BINDER TO AGE AND BECOME BRITTLE.

UH, IT ALSO KEEPS OUT, UH, BAD OILS, UH, CAR OIL AND STUFF, AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS THAT WILL GET IN AND LOOSEN THE AGGREGATES.

UM, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE DONE, UH, WELL, UH, WE HAVE DONE FOUR MILES, JUST ABOUT FOUR MILES TOTAL IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

UM, THE, UH, BEFORE I GET INTO SHOWING YOU THE, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER COMPLAINTS WE TYPICALLY GET IS, UH, THAT IF CARS, VEHICLES GET ON IT TOO FAST, IT'LL TRACK INTO THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND STUFF.

UH, THE COMPANY THAT WE'VE BEEN USING, ANDEL HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD PARTNER, NOT ONLY IN PUTTING OUT SOME OF THE, UH, PR STUFF AND NOTIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD AT, UH, COMING BACK AND CLEANING UP AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

AND THE WHOLE PROCESS TAKES, UM, WHAT, 24 HOURS? YEAH.

I MEAN, SO I MEAN, I MEAN, WE DO IT USUALLY OVER THE SUMMER, AND IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S WELL WELL AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE HAVE NOTICES.

AND, UH, I THINK THE MAIN, THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT, YEAH, YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET DURING THAT, DURING THAT TIME, UH, FOR THAT 24 HOURS.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY COMPLAINTS, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THIS PRODUCT, UH, BEING PLACED.

AND FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING, IT SEEMS TO BE HOLDING UP OVER THESE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S, AND IT'S, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THE STREET, CORRECT? RIGHT.

YEAH.

THE, THE WHOLE REASON IS IT'S NOT A STRUCTURAL REPAIR.

IT IS TRYING TO BANDAID AND SEAL IN THE GOOD, SEAL OUT THE BAD.

UM, SO WE DID LOOK BACK, THESE ARE THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE CURRENT PHOTOS JUST TAKEN WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

UM, THIS FIRST ONE IS OF THE MOST RECENT SECTION, UH, OR SECTIONS WHERE WE DID, UH, JUST ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR OF HA FIVE, UM, THIS BEING 2023, WHERE WE DID JUST ABOUT A MILE AND A QUARTER.

AND YOU CAN SEE STILL, UH, STILL DARK, STILL, UH, STILL INTACT.

IT'S NOT PEELING, IT'S NOT, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A 10-YEAR-OLD ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE GET BACK INTO 2022, THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE APPLIED IT IN THE AREAS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S STILL HOLDING UP.

UM, AND FOR SOME AMOUNT OF COMPARISON ON THE LEFT HERE IS A PHOTO OF AN HA FIVE AREA WE DID IN 2022.

AND ON THE RIGHT IS A FULL OVERLAY, UH, THAT WE DID IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME, WHERE THAT'S BRAND NEW ASPHALT THAT IT, WELL, IT WAS BRAND NEW ASPHALT THAT, UH, THREE YEARS AGO NOW.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S EVEN, UH, IT'S EVEN DARKER.

UM, IT SEEMS TO BE KEEPING INTACT.

IT'S KEEPING THE OILS IN BETTER, IT'S DOING ITS JOB AS COMPARED TO JUST A NEW PIECE OF PAYMENT.

JUST A NEW, YEAH, JUST A NEW ONE.

SO IT'S SAY, I MEAN, IN ESSENCE, THAT'S SAVING THE CITY YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY DOING IT THIS, THIS WAY.

AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT LOOKS BETTER.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, THE CRITIQUES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, STREETS ARE LOOKING A LOT BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE USING THIS PRODUCT.

SO YEAH.

YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY, IT DOES, DEFINITELY DOES HELP THE APPEARANCE.

UM, THE SECOND TIER, EXCUSE ME, THE SECOND TIER APPROACH, UM, IS WHEN WE'VE KIND OF LET IT GO A LITTLE TOO FAR, UM, BEFORE GETTING HA FIVE OR, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR ON IT, UM, WHERE WE'VE STARTED TO GET SOME AMOUNT OF CRACKING.

UM, THE, THE TOP LAYER OF ASPHALT HAS BEEN AGED AND BRITTLE.

UM, AND WE GO AND, UH, WITH A MILL AND OVERLAY PROCESS, TAKE ABOUT TWO INCHES OR SO, DEPENDING ON THE STREET

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ITSELF, UM, AND JUST REPLACE THAT TOP LAYER OF ASPHALT.

IT, IT'S DOING THE SAME, UM, BANDAGE OVER THE STRUCTURAL SECTIONS BELOW.

IT'S KEEPING OUT THE WATER.

IT'S GIVING A, A NEW LIFE TO THE ROAD.

IT'S, UH, REPLACING THE, UH, THE ASPHALT.

UM, THE KEY WAYS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING THIS IS, UH, IS PART OF THE, WELL, FOR LOCAL ROADS, FOR INSTANCE, IS, UH, IS PART OF THE CONTRACT LABOR PORTION OF THE BUDGET.

WE USE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, WE USE, UH, RENTALS, ASPHALT.

UM, WE'VE USED THEM MANY TIMES, UH, TO COME AND DO SOME OF THE LABOR.

BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT THAT WE DO IS WITH THE COUNTY, THE TARRANT COUNTY, UM, THEY PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT IN LABOR.

UH, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE MATERIALS, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND FOR HALF OF THE FUEL COSTS.

AND WITH THE COUNTY, THERE IS NO PROFIT MARKUP.

RIGHT.

SO THE, THERE IS, UH, A GOOD AMOUNT OF SAVINGS WITH THE, UH, THE COUNTY.

UM, NOW IT DOES TAKE, UH, OUR STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT TO, TO GO AND DO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND TO, TO WATCH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, GETTING WHAT WE NEED OUT OF IT.

AND, UM, SO MOVING ON, IF WE, UH, IF WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN TIME OR SAY THERE'S, UH, STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WITH THE ROAD, THERE'S A, A PIPE THAT'S BEEN LEAKING UNDERNEATH IT.

WE WE'RE NEAR A CREEK AND THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF SATURATED SOILS CAUSING THE ENTIRE ROADWAY TO BECOME SOFT.

UM, THEN WE CAN GO AND DO A FULL DEPTH RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY WE'RE TEARING OUT THE ROAD AND BUILDING IT NEW.

UM, WE CAN REMOVE, UH, WE MOVE, WE REMOVE THE SURFACE IN THE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.

UH, AT THAT POINT WE HAVE THE OPTIONS TO GO AND CEMENT, TREAT OR ADD SOME ADDITIONAL GRAVEL MATERIAL TO TRY AND FIRM UP THE SOILS BENEATH THE PAVEMENT.

UH, AND, AND THEN WE BUILD BACK THE, THE ROAD.

UM, AND SOMETIMES INCREASING, INCREASING THE SECTION, IF IT'S A ROADWAY THAT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE AND NOW SEES GREATER TRAFFIC LOADS THAN, UH, THAT WERE, THAN WERE EXPECTED, UM, WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS, UH, DRAINAGE OR SLOPE ISSUES AT THAT POINT.

AND DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL, UH, THE ROADS, UH, NEED FULL DEPTHS RECONSTRUCTION OR, OR GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE? UH, WE DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THAT.

THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE SLOWLY GO OVER IN TIME.

OKAY.

UM, TRYING TO LOOK AT CONDITIONS, UTILITY, UH, LOOKING AT THE UTILITIES PRIOR TO.

AND, UH, AND WHEN WE FIND A AREA OF A STREET THAT NEEDS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, WE FIRST GO AND THEN LOOK AT UTILITIES.

IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS, LET'S SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE HAVE TO DO UNDERNEATH IT FIRST.

EXACTLY.

GOTCHA.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THAT, THAT PORTION ALL TAKES LONGER.

OF COURSE.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

SO WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE, THE APPROACHES WE USE? ANY QUESTION WITH ALL THE, THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES, DIFFERENT ITEMS? OKAY.

SO LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS PAST YEAR, UM, SPECIFICALLY FIRST ON THOROUGHFARES, WE WORKED, UH, WE DID THE MILL AND OVERLAY PROJECTS ON CUMMINGS AND WADE.

UH, HERE'S SOME PICTURES ON THE, THE CUMMINGS SECTION THAT WE DID WITH, UH, WITH REYNOLDS REAL QUICK.

THAT MAP THAT YOU SHOWED US THERE, IS THAT, THAT'S A, IS THAT A DIFFERENT MAP THAN THE ONES WITH THE, THE ROAD CONDITIONS? SO THE COLORS HERE ARE THE PCI SCORES AGAIN.

OKAY.

THESE ARE JUST THE THOROUGHFARE ROADS.

OKAY.

THESE ARE JUST THE THOROUGHFARE ROADS WITH THE PCI SCORES? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THE COLOR, THE, YEAH, THE COLOR CODE THERE IS THE PCI SCORES.

THE, UH, THE ROADS ARE, OH, SHOWN ARE THE THOROUGHFARES, THE THOROUGH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, LOOKING AT CUMMINS, THIS IS, UH, UH, A SECTION WE DID WITH REYNOLDS AND WADE WAS THE SINGLE PROJECT WE DID WITH THE, UH, THE COUNTY LAST, OR THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE WERE MILL AND OVERLAYS AND, UH, AND SEEMED TO BE HOLDING UP PRETTY WELL TO, TO, TO RECENT OBSERVATION.

UH, I KNOW CUMMINGS CUMMINGS DID, UH, REALLY GOOD.

THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ABSOLUTELY HAPPY ABOUT THAT, ABOUT SEEING CUMMINGS REDONE, ESPECIALLY WITH WADE AS WELL.

SO, UM, BOTH THOSE LOOK, LOOK GREAT WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, SO, SO GOOD.

UH, GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE.

THE, UH, THE LONG LIST HERE IS ALL OF THE STREETS THAT WE DID, UH, THE PAVEMENT WITH THE ASPHALT CONTRACTOR, WITH THE O UH, THE MILL AND OVERLAY IN THE LAST YEAR.

UM, WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS THAT I'LL RUN THROUGH KIND OF QUICKLY.

UM, YOU'VE SEEN MOST OF THESE SIX MONTHS AGO, UH, 'CAUSE WE DID DO THE, THE MILL AND OVERLAYS KIND OF TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

UM, SO HERE ARE SOME BEFORE PICTURES, THE ONLY SLIDE OF BEFORE PICTURES.

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE AFTERS FOR NOTTINGHAM, OAK HILL HIGH CREST, THE CENTURY PLACE EDITION, UH, FIELD COURT, MOSSBURG STANTON, SHADY BROOK, AND SHADY GROVE.

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SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON ONE, ONE PHASE OR ANOTHER WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON.

UH, TXDOT, UH, IS JUST GETTING CLOSE TO FINISHING UP INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, CHEEKS BAR 1 21, 1 57 INDUSTRIAL, THAT WHOLE THANK GOODNESS.

.

YES.

THANK GOODNESS VERY MUCH.

UM, WE DID, UH, WE DID, UH, WALK THAT PROJECT WITH TDOT THE WEEK BEFORE LAST.

UM, THE, THE, THE, THE LANES LOOK GOOD.

UM, THEY'RE DOING SOME FINAL CONFIGURATION AND THE SIGNALS, THE SIGNALS ARE RUNNING JUST ON TIMING RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO DETECTION HAPPENING.

UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON DETECTION AND PEDESTRIAN BUTTONS AND THOSE KIND OF SMALL THINGS.

AND THEN THEY'LL DO A GOOD, UH, A BIG EFFORT TO CLEAN UP THE, THE AREA AND THEN THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETE.

SO ALL THE WORK ON THE ROAD ITSELF AND ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS IS, ARE BASICALLY DONE.

THEY'RE JUST CORRECT.

WORKING ON SIGNALS RIGHT NOW AND CORRECT.

OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

THAT'S, I KNOW, I, I WAS SURPRISED.

I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE.

I, I, I'VE MADE IT A HABIT TO AVOID CHEEKS, BARGER OVER THE SUMMER.

I WAS LIKE, I WAS LIKE, I GOTTA AVOID THIS AREA.

AND SO I'VE BEEN TAKING CUMMINGS AND I RANDOMLY SAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, LET ME JUST CHECK AND SEE HOW THIS IS GOING.

AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT TRAFFIC WAS FLOWING SMOOTHLY ACROSS CHEEKS, BARGER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN, IN MONTHS.

SO, YEAH.

UM, SO THAT'S GOOD.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE'RE FINISHING UP THERE.

YEAH.

UH, THERE ALSO ARE, UH, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND SUCH IN THE AREA.

YES.

A LOT OF, UH, THERE WERE GAPS IN THE SIDEWALKS OVER THERE THAT ARE NOW, UH, CONTINUOUS SO PEDESTRIANS CAN GET FROM THE, UH, GLADE PARKS, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS TO, UH, UM, WALMART AND SOME OF THE OTHER VISITS OVER THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, COLLEYVILLE CONTINUES TO WORK ON THEIR BOND PROJECT FROM THE COUNTY.

UM, NOW IN, UH, UH, INJUNCTION ALSO WITH TRA, WHO LOOKS TO BE DOING SOME PIPELINE WORK UNDER THE ROAD.

UM, SO THAT'LL BE YET ANOTHER CON LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT COMING TO CHEEKS, BARGER, AT OUR NORTH BOUNDARY.

UM, ANY TIMING ON THAT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE WAY FAR OUT BECAUSE T A'S GOTTA GO IN THERE AND DIG UP.

, ILAS AND AND SUCH ARE STILL IN THE WORKS.

YEAH.

TO START EVEN JUST DESIGN WORK.

OKAY.

UH, WITH THE, WITH THE MASS AMOUNT, UH, AND THE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY SEVERITY, BUT THE SCOPE OF THE PIPELINE YEAH.

ITSELF AND SOME, UH, GRADING THINGS THAT IT SHOULD BE SOME TIME 18 MONTHS OR MORE, I WOULD IMAGINE.

OKAY.

THEY PUT LIKE, I AM NOT AWARE OF THE, THE COUNTERS.

WE DON'T, WE YEAH.

SMALL MM-HMM.

COUNT CARS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

QUESTION FOR JOE.

YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER FARGO, JOE, WHEN UM, WE, UH, WE START THAT PROJECT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE HOMEOWNERS? 'CAUSE THAT'S A BIG QUESTION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.

'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA REDO THE BAR DITCHES.

THEY'RE PUTTING IN, UH, DRAINAGE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN NEW, SUPPOSEDLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET A 10 FOOT WIDE WALKING PATH ON OUR SIDE AND A FIVE FOOT ON THEIRS.

AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS COMING UP FROM THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT BACK UP TO CHEEKS, BARTER.

RIGHT.

I KNOW, UH, BASED ON THE LATEST DA THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UH, TRA WILL ACTUALLY, UH, RUN THE DESIGN PORTION OF IT AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO GET, UH, AS MUCH INFORMATION AND, UH, AND, AND MEETINGS AND WHATNOT OUT AS WE CAN.

UM, BUT NOT BEING THE, NOT BEING IN THE QUARTERBACK POSITION FOR THAT PROJECT, UH, IT'LL BE A SECONDARY AND WE'LL GET WHAT WE CAN.

WELL, IT'S TALKING TO, UH, MARY LINDA.

THEY CAN'T FIX A A, A BRIDGE ON, ON JACKSON RIGHT NOW THAT'S TAKING FOREVER.

THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG PROJECT.

SO YEAH.

OUR RESIDENTS INFORMED.

YES.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY ALL, A LOT OF THOSE LITTLE DIVISIONS THAT ARE GOING UP THERE.

UM, REAL QUICK, WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT DOES THE, JUST FOR RECORD HERE, THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT FOR CHEEKS, BARGER, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA BE FROM, UM, WHAT, 1 57 AND THEN GOING, UH, IT WILL BE ROUGHLY FROM HERITAGE ON THE EAST.

HERITAGE, SORRY, HERITAGE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

TO, UH, THEIR VERSION OF, OF BEDFORD ROAD.

UM, THE ONE THAT GOES NORTH FROM THE ONE THAT GOES ON.

GOTCHA.

GOTCHA.

SO BASICALLY, BASICALLY IT'S THE ENTIRETY OF IT.

YEAH.

FOR THE MOST PART.

TWO THIRDS OR MORE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

UM, IN THE LAST, UH, KIND OF PARTNER, UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IS TARRANT COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT AND PRECINCT THREE.

NOT ONLY THE PAVING PROGRAM THAT WE, THAT I TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, BUT, UH, THE, UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, IN OUR UPCOMING PROJECTS, UH, THE 2021 TRANSPORTATION BOND PROGRAM, UH, WHERE THEY GAVE 50, 50, 50 MATCHING, UH, BONDS TO THE, THE CITIES FOR PROJECTS.

AND THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR THE FIRST PART.

OKAY.

UM, AND

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THEN CITY OF ELI FOR PIPELINE.

OH, CITY OF ULI.

UM, YEAH.

UM, THEY, SO FOR THE CHEEKS, BARGER 1 21 PROJECT, UH, THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND THE CITY OF ELI HAD AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND THEN ELI WAS THE KIND OF LEAD BETWEEN THE TWO MM-HMM.

TO GET THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TDOT.

GOTCHA.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO COMPLETING A PIPELINE RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL THE, THE CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND SO, YEAH, WE'VE DONE OUR PORTION OF PIPELINE PORTION UNDER PIPELINE.

NOW THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OVER AND DO THE, THE PIPELINE PAVING.

ANY UPDATE ON THAT? UM, YES.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO START ACTUALLY ON MONDAY.

OKAY.

STARTING THE PAVING.

THEY'RE GONNA START AT, UH, AT RADER.

GOT IT.

AND MOVE THEIR WAY TOWARDS R ONE.

OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

AND DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE THEM? OKAY.

GOT IT.

I HAVEN'T GOT ANY, NOT A NUMBER I'VE HEARD.

ALL RIGHT.

'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING WHAT, WHAT THAT COMPLETION TIME IS.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT ON OUR SCHEDULE, IT'S ON, YOU KNOW, WE THIS WAY.

YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT AND WE'LL PUT OUT AS WE CAN.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOE WHILE WE GOT 'EM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

WE HAVE UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS RECEIVE, UH, THE FOUR B FINANCIAL STATUS REPORT AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2024.

GIVE YOU ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KAREN BRIGGS.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

SO YES, THIS IS JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE AS OF JUNE 30TH.

I KNOW IT'S THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST, SO IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT DELAYED, BUT WE JUST CLOSED JULY BEFORE WE GOT THE PACKET OUT.

SO, OR AFTER WE GOT THE PACKET OUT.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU HARD AND FAST NUMBERS.

SO AS OF JUNE, UM, WE ARE SITTING WITH TOTAL REVENUES AT 2.5 MILLION.

UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES ARE 3.1 MILLION.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH SALES TAX, SINCE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE MONTHS, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, YEAR TO DATE THROUGH AUGUST.

WE'RE AT 2.05% HIGHER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

SALES TAX HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING COUNCIL HOLD MY SPIEL AT A BUDGET WORKSHOP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

BUT, UH, SALES TAX HAS KIND OF FLATTENED THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY KIND OF KEEPING AN EYE ON IT AND KIND OF MONITORING IT.

SO WE WERE HOPING TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN 2%, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

UM, YOUR INTEREST EARNINGS ARE DOING PHENOMENAL.

UM, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF, UM, LADDERING OUR INVESTMENTS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND, UM, SO YEAR TO DATE THROUGH JUNE YOU WERE AT 183,993, WHICH IS INTERESTING.

THAT IS, UH, ABOUT 2000, UH, HIGHER THAN YEAR TO DATE LAST YEAR FOR THE YEAR.

NOT SORRY FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

SO, SO, UH, INTEREST IS DOING WELL.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE A TERRIBLE HEADACHE AND I'M TRYING NOT TO STUMBLE OVER MY WORDS.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, SO YEAH, SO YOU'RE ON TRACK.

YOU'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.

UM, WE DID PROJECT TO DIP INTO FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.

SO REVENUE'S BEING OVER AND EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR IS NOT ANYTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD.

UM, ARE WE CONCERNED WITH, UM, I SAW ON THERE ON THE COMMUNICATE THAT THE BUDGETED REVENUES WERE ONLY LIKE 55% MM-HMM.

.

UM, WERE WE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR THE REVENUE SIDE? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK WELL WITH SALES TAX.

GOTCHA.

WE ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE YEAR, YOU'LL SEE A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE RECEIVE IN SEPTEMBER PLUS WHAT WE RECEIVE IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER GETS ACCRUED BACK.

GOTCHA.

SO IT KIND OF SKEWS IT A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

'CAUSE YOU LOOK, WHEN AT FIRST GLANCE YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE CONCERNING, BUT YES.

OKAY.

BUT YOU CAN NOTICE IF YOU LOOK IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, THE ACTUALS ARE ZERO ON THIS SCHEDULE BECAUSE THEY GET PUSHED INTO THE PRIOR YEAR.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY BELONG.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

GOTCHA.

UM, WE ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR I THINK, UM, I WAS GOING BACK TO OUR, UH, MEETING AND IT SAID THAT WE EXCEEDED REVENUES, I THINK AROUND 67,000 LAST YEAR.

THIS TIME, UH, THIS YEAR IT'S 653,000 MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO, SO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UM, WE HAD SLATED TO DO TWO, UH, CIP PROJECTS.

I WANNA SAY IT WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

THE BOTH PROJECTS THAT WE SLATED FOR THIS YEAR.

ONE IS GREGORY EDITION AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PUSHING THAT INTO NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOUR, UH, REVENUES ARE LESS THAN YOUR EXPENDITURES.

'CAUSE WE HAD PLANNED TO DO THAT CIP PROJECT.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

GOOD.

AND WHERE ARE WE SITTING AT RIGHT NOW FOR FUND BALANCE? FUND BALANCE? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE, WHERE PLANNED ON BEING, WHERE WE WERE WE IN JUNE.

YEAH.

UM, SO WE'RE PLANNING ON BEING AT 2.5 MILLION AT THE END OF THE FISCAL.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT OUR BUDGET WAS.

UM, OUR FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT FOR FOUR B IS ONE TIMES THE B IS ONE TIMES THE ANNUAL DEBT PAYMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 663,000 MM-HMM.

.

SO WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SURE.

UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS, MS. THANKS.

UH, MR. MAYOR.

UM, KAREN, SO

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WHAT TYPICALLY, UH, EXPENSES DO WE HAVE RELATED TO MAINTENANCE IN THE, SO THAT IS GONNA BE SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, CURB AND GUTTER MAINTENANCE, STREET MAINTENANCE, UM, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE THERE.

UM, THE VEHICLES RELATED TO STREETS COME OUT OF THIS FUND.

SO ALL OF THAT'S GONNA BE IN YOUR, IN THAT MAINTENANCE LINE ITEM.

OKAY.

I, I JUST NOTICED THAT IT FLUCTUATES QUITE A BIT.

MM-HMM.

FROM MONTH TO MONTH.

YEP.

IT JUST DEPENDS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THOSE HIT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S FINE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

IT'S ALL NEED BASED, SO.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

UM, I WAS GONNA SAVE SOME FOR THE, WHEN WE GET INTO, I'LL SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO THAT LEADS US TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

CONSIDER IT APPROVE OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 20 BUDGET AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR STREET IMPROVEMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CORPORATION BUDGET.

UM, SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? ALL RIGHT, YOU START, JOE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH, , WE GIVE CITY ENGINEER JOE SCHWEITZER, I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND CAN TALK ABOUT HOW, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH, UH, THOROUGHFARES LOCAL STREETS AND STREET PRESERVATION.

UM, SAME, UH, SAME KIND OF BREAKUP WE HAD IN THE FIRST HALF.

UM, THOROUGHFARE PROJECTS.

UH, THE FIRST ONE WE WANT TO DO IS, UH, TENNIS DRIVE, MILL AND OVERLAY.

UM, THIS WOULD BE, UH, THESE ARE APPROXIMATE COSTS FOR THE, UH, COUNTY, EITHER COUNTY OR REYNOLDS, UM, TO, TO DO, OR, OR A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR I SHOULD SAY.

UM, TO DO JUST AS A MILL AND OVERLAY WITH, UH, OF COURSE AS WE'RE DOING A MILL AND OVERLAY, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, AS WE EXPOSE THE, THE LOWER LAYOUTS OF ASPHALT, IF THERE IS A AREA THAT NEEDS FURTHER ATTENTION, WE'RE FIXING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE WITH SOME FULL DEPTH REPAIRS AREA.

UM, THE SECOND WOULD BE THE BROWN TRAIL.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE COUNTY BOND PROJECTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE 2021 COUNTY BOND PROJECT, UH, THAT WE'VE, UH, UM, KIND OF DONE SOME, UH, SOME SCOPE REVISIONS BASED ON INFLATION SINCE THE BOND PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO FIT INTO THE, UM, SAME BUDGET AS THE 50 50 MATCH, UM, WAS CONTEMPLATED BACK IN 2021.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF TARRANT COUNTY STREET MAINTENANCE.

ONE, YOU SAID 200,000, UNLESS THERE, UNLESS THERE'S STUFF UNDERNEATH THAT'S A PROBLEM? OR IS THAT INCLUDING IF THERE'S AN ISSUE? UH, SO THAT THE APPROXIMATE COSTS, IT'S GONNA BE 10% ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? UM, WITH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL AREAS, UM, AND THIS IS, UH, NOT SPECIFICALLY A, UM, A BUDGETED LINE ITEM AT THIS POINT FOR THAT COST.

IT'S, UH, SOMETHING WE WOULD GO AND, UH, AND GET COSTS, UH, A FURTHER COST ESTIMATE AND BRING BACK, I GUESS DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ILA, UM, WITH EITHER THE COUNTY OR THE CONTRACTOR ILA OR CONTRACT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED WORK.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE BOND PROJECT, UH, WILL BE, IS THE NEXT ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS WILL, UH, UM, UH, IS THE, THE ACTUAL DESIGN ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION ARE BOTH, UH, ITEMS THAT THE COUNTY WILL PARTICIPATE IN WITH THEIR MATCH.

THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE COST FOR THE STREET PORTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT'LL BE DOING.

THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER LANDSCAPING UTILITY AND THOSE KIND OF THING, IMPROVEMENTS THAT'LL COME FROM OTHER FUNDS.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

SO, UM, GROUND TRAIL, THE UTILITIES THAT YOU CAN SEE THE PIPES ALL DOWN THE ROAD.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? WE ARE THE, THE CITY DENVER.

YES.

THE, THE, THE CITY IS, IS CONDUCTING THE CURRENT PROJECT.

IT WAS, UH, ONE OF THEM I MENTIONED AT THE VERY BEGINNING, UH, FOR THE WATER LINES AND, AND SEWER UTILITIES.

UM, THIS SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE FOR THE ROADWAY AFTERWARDS.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS, UM, UH, NOT ONLY TO LET SOME OF THE TRENCHES AND SUCH SETTLE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT BETWEEN DESIGN SCHEDULES AND WHATNOT, THERE WILL BE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME WE'RE BROWN AND THE OTHER STREETS IN THE AREA WILL SIT WITH A LOT OF TEMPORARY ASPHALT BEFORE WE COME BACK AND DO A WHOLE NEW SURFACE ALL AT ONCE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND I'M GONNA SKIP TO RANKIN 'CAUSE IT SHOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOCAL STREET.

IT IS, UH, WAS INCLUDED IN THE, UH, UM, THOROUGHFARE.

UM, BUT I HAVE THE SLIDES IN THE WRONG ORDER.

RANKIN IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING,

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UM, SEVERAL AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT, NOT ONLY TO THE STREET, BUT TO WATER, SEWER, STORM DRAIN.

UH, AND WE WANT TO TAKE A, A CLOSER LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UM, DEVELOPMENTS UPSTREAM SINCE UH, THE CULVERTS WERE PLACED ARE, UH, UH, HAVEN'T IMPACTED THE, THE, THE FLOOD WORTHINESS OF THE CULVERTS.

SO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE A HARD TAR OR A HARD DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION COST.

WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THE SEVERITY OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

UM, SO WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, UM, CITY STAFF WILL GO AND DO SOME EVALUATION.

WE'LL GO WITH THE, UH, THE CAMERA VAN TO LOOK THE STORM DRAINS AND SEWERS, UM, PIPELINE.

WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THE CULVERT IN DEPTH AND WE'LL WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN BUDGET TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT, BUT WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR, FOR RANK, CORRECT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'RE JUST TOO EARLY IN THE, IN THE PHASE OF THIS ONE.

UH, WE'RE TOO EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS TO, TO COME UP WITH GOOD NUMBERS.

GOTCHA.

SO WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT IN SIX MINUTES.

COUNCILOR FARCO, JOE, DO WE HAVE, GET THE CORE INVOLVED SINCE IT'S A, IT'S A ACTIVE, UH, RANCH POND INVOLVED A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THE CORE HAS TO BE INVOLVED AND THAT SLOWS UP TIMING ALSO.

YEAH.

DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF SER THE, THE SCOPE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO DO AT THE CULVERTS THEMSELVES, UM, AT THE, UH, AT THE CREEK COULD, COULD INVOLVE, UH, BOTH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND TECHON.

UM, SO IT, IT COULD BECOME SOMETHING BIG.

WE'RE HOPING TO NOT, AS SOON AS SUSAN SAID TDOT, THAT'S, I JUST SAW MONTHS GO BY TO WHEN WE EVEN YES.

EVEN TOUCHED THIS.

BUT, UH, IT, IT COULD BE A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SCALE BACK AND MAKE SOME ENGINEERING YES.

UM, UH, DECISIONS TO, UH, TO AVOID SOME OF THAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NEEDED AND THE RANKIN'S IN A, IN A RIGHT.

PRETTY BAD STATE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST PROCESS, UH, FIRST PROJECT OF PROBABLY SEVERAL THAT WOULD WORK UP THAT DRAINAGE WAY.

GOTCHA.

UH, UP THAT CREEK TOWARDS THE FREEWAY.

UH, WE KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, UM, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON STREETS FURTHER NORTH, ALONG THAT SAME CREEK THAT ARE NECESSARY.

BUT WE DON'T WANNA MAKE THE UPSTREAM IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN IMPROVE THE CAPACITY AND FLOW AND FLOOD THE PEOPLE OUT TO THE SOUTH.

SO WE WANT TO, UM, DO IT THE, THE, THE MOST LOGICAL WAY, MOST LOGICAL, THE, UH, THE BEST FOR EVERYONE KIND OF WAY.

YEAH.

AND THINK OUR WAY THROUGH IT BEFORE WE GO AND DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA REGRET.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S GOOD.

WITH, WITH NTTA AND THE CONTINUING PROJECT, ADDING MULTIPLE LANES AND ADDITIONAL WATER COMING INTO THAT CREEK, DO WE GET ANY FUNDING SINCE IT'S PRIVATELY FUNDED BECAUSE IT AFFECTS US DOWNSTREAM AT ALL? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NO.

NO.

SO, SO THAT'S ASK A QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO UTILITIES.

SO CORRECT.

IT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING.

I, SO, UM, IRAN AND DESIGN IS, IS GONNA COST ABOUT HOW MUCH PROPOSAL, UH, SO IT IS AT THIS POINT.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT AND IT'S A PROJECT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, LATER ON.

UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE PAVING SECTION TO KNOW IF REALLY IT'S A MILL AND OVERLAY EVEN, OR IF IT'S A FULL, WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT A FOOT OF FULL RECONSTRUCTION MATERIAL AND RECONSTRUCT EVERYTHING.

AND THOSE PRICES CAN VARY BECAUSE THE, THE MILL AND OVERLAY IS, IS MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO OF EVEN THE DESIGN.

UM, WHEREAS A, A FULL DESIGN GOING THROUGH GRADES AND DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, UNDERNEATH THE ROAD AND ON THE SURFACE, UH, CAN TAKE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

BUT YOU MENTIONED NORTH OF RANKIN WATER GOING SOUTH.

CORRECT.

AND SO JUST FOR RANKIN IT ACTUALLY, CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND, AND PART OF THE INITIAL EVALUATION THAT WE'LL BE DOING FOR THE, THE, THE CREEK CROSSING AT RANKIN, UM, WILL DETERMINE IF WE'RE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE, THE DRAINAGE CAPACITY THAT WE NEED.

AND IF NOT, THEN THAT STUDY WOULD CONTINUE UP TO, UH, PROBABLY NTTS FREEWAY, UH, IF NOT FURTHER, UM, TO, TO GET A PROPERLY ENGINEERED DESIGN.

SO THE, THE GIVE US A, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT IT IN A AND AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A, A BETTER IDEA.

YEAH.

I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PATIENT.

YEAH.

WE, THIS IS ONE THAT WE WANNA REALIZE.

'CAUSE I I KNOW THAT THE DRAINAGE DOWN THERE IS, IT'S PRETTY BAD.

UM, CORRECT.

IT'S, IT NEEDS A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK.

SO, UM, WE NEED TO START TACKLING THIS AS, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AND WE'LL LOOK,

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WE'LL LOOK THROUGH VARIOUS OPTIONS ON THE, UH, UH, THE ECONOMIC SIDE, UH, THE, THE ENGINEERING ECONOMICS AND, AND FIGURE OUT, UM, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THE GOLD PLATED OPTION.

UM, MAYBE WE CAN COME IN WITH A SILVER OR BRONZE, UH, METAL THAT GETS THE JOB DONE.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

THAT THAT'LL STILL GET THE JOB DONE.

WE'LL PROVIDE THE, THE PROPERTY AND LIFE PROTECTION AND YES.

AND WHAT WE NEED.

UM, BUT, UH, BUT MAYBE COST A FRACTION OF THE AMOUNT OF OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS GOING FORWARD.

YEAH.

SO THEN MOVING INTO LOCAL STREETS.

UH, THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT GOT, UH, SLID, UM, UH, FROM THIS, FROM THIS YEAR, UM, FOR VARIOUS FACTORS.

UM, THAT'LL BE LOOKING AT UTILITIES AND STREETS IN THE GREGORY AND BEDFORD COURT ADDITIONS.

THE, UH, PROPOSED, OR THIS IS KIND OF A, UM, IN THE, IN THE OVERALL CA UM, CONTRACT LABOR LINE ITEM FOR LOCAL STREETS.

UM, THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS PORTION OF THAT.

THAT'S FOUR STREET, UH, LOCAL STREET PAVING.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE TOTAL, UH, OF THE STREETS SHOWN IS $985,000.

THIS IS KIND OF A LIST OF PRIORITIES OF WHERE WE'LL GO.

UM, AFTER EACH ONE OF THESE GROUPS, WE'LL, WE'LL GO AND LOOK AT, UM, HOW, HOW WE DID ON THE FIRST SECTION, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THE ADDITIONAL FULL DEPTH, UH, REPAIRS WE HAD TO DO AND THOSE KIND OF OF THINGS AND MOVE DOWN, UM, UH, THE, THE LIST AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

UM, REAL QUICK, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT A RURAL ROAD IS? SO, RURAL ROAD WAS A WORD THAT, OR A TERM THAT KIND OF PREDATED, UH, ME HERE.

IT WAS IN SOME DOCUMENTS.

I MEAN, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHEN I THINK RURAL ROAD, I THINK DIRT ROAD.

UM, YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, THIS IS ONE STEP UP.

GRAVEL FROM THE DIRT ROAD.

THIS IS THE ASPHALT ROAD WITH BAR DITCHES.

OH, OKAY.

THIS IS, UH, NO CURB GUTTER, NO SIDEWALKS, THOSE THINGS.

THERE'S ONLY A FEW, UH, LEFT IN THE CITY.

YES.

IN GENERAL AREAS.

UM, DOING A MILL AND OVERLAY, UH, ALLOWS, UM, UH, KIND OF A RESET ON THE CLOCK, IF YOU WILL, FOR WHEN THEY MIGHT GET DONE FURTHER DOWN.

BUT THERE WAS NO IMMEDIATE NEED TO IMPROVE THOSE ROADS ANY FURTHER AT THE TIME.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AND WE'LL KEEP, UH, UH, THE, THE ROADS SAFE FOR THE, THE TRAVELERS THAT DO THE, USE THOSE ROADS AS THEY REMAIN IN THEIR CURRENT CONDITION.

GOTCHA.

SO, AND THEN LAST IS THE, THE SECTIONS OF, UH, UM, THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR, UH, POTENTIAL HA FIVE, UM, USE FOR THE, FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

AS I SAID, WE DID ABOUT FOUR, FOUR MILES OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

UH, THIS IS JUST UNDER TWO.

UH, IF WE DID ALL OF THE, UH, THE FOUR SECTIONS AND THOSE ACTUALLY TURNED OUT BETTER ON THE MONITOR THAN ON PAPER, THE COLORS.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, VARIOUS SUBDIVISIONS THERE THAT WE WANTED TO HEAD TO.

UH, THERE IS A TARGET BAND OF PCI AFTER, AFTER YOU GET TO SUCH A LEVEL, UNDER SEVENTIES TYPICALLY IS CON UH, CONSIDERED, UM, YOU'RE KIND OF JUST TOO LATE AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING, THE, THE CRACKS ARE GONNA BE TOO WIDE TO, TO BE ABLE TO BRIDGE, UM, THE, THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE.

YOU GOTTA LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE.

GOTCHA.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A NARROWING BAND OF THE STREETS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT.

UM, STILL, BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS MORE TO BE ABLE TO DO.

UM, AND THE EXPECTED LIFE OF AJ FIVE IS BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10 YEARS, UM, FROM WHAT WE'VE READ AND BEEN TOLD.

SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF YEARS MORE ON THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE DONE.

YEAH.

'CAUSE WE'VE ONLY DONE IT FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

AND SO, UM, SO IT EXTENDS THAT LIFE.

SO YOU'RE GONNA GO IN, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAIN GOAL IS GET IT BEFORE IT REACHES THAT, UM, YOU SAID 60.

YEAH, YEAH.

BEFORE IT GETS TO PCI RATING OF 60.

MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THAT AND EXTEND THE LIFE OF IT.

UM, FOR THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

DO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE STREETS.

THESE ARE ALL THE STREETS WE'RE HITTING WITHIN THE BOX THERE, OR CORRECT.

YEAH.

THERE, THERE MAY BE.

UM, FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK THOSE BOXES ARE PRETTY TIGHT.

BUT YEAH.

WITH IF, UH, IF THERE'S A LISTING NEEDED, WE WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.

WE HAVE 'EM.

IT WAS JUST, UH, FIGURED TOO MANY WORDS FOR ONE SLIDE.

YEAH, NO, OF COURSE.

NO, I GOTCHA.

BUT NO, THE MOST, UM, I ACTUALLY CAN'T THINK OF AN EXCEPTION WHERE ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THERE WOULD BE EXCLUDED IN THOSE BOXES.

OKAY.

SO IT'S MOSTLY ALL OF THEM.

YEAH.

RIGHT THERE.

YOU SAID THAT'S TWO MILES WORTH? UH, YEAH.

JUST UNDER TWO, TWO, JUST UNDER TWO MILES WORTH OF IT.

OKAY.

THEY, UM, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT BOUGHT UP TO EITHER COLLEYVILLE OR IS IT THERE ANY, UM, CONVERSATION? YEAH, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT IT'D BE, IT'D BE A

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IF MAYFAIR, I THINK MAYFAIR HILLS.

YEAH.

I'M NOT, I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE STREET THAT GOES FROM THIS SECTION OF MAYFAIR FIELD HILLS INTO HEARST.

GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE I JUST HAD HERE WAS GOING TO BE ALL OF THE STUFF, KIND OF A RECAP OF WHAT WE JUST WENT OVER.

UM, THE, THE TWO DESIGN PROJECTS AND THE NUMBER OF, UH, PROJECTS WE'LL HAVE IN SOME FORM OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND I CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY WIDE, PRETTY WIDESPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? UM, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WE DID A LOT OF WORK LAST YEAR IN THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN A PAINFUL FOR A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS.

I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT IS, UH, SOME OF THE OLDER PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.

AND SO WE, WE GOT A LOT ACCOMPLISHED IN THIS PAST YEAR.

AND SO, UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THIS NOW JUST KIND OF SPREADING OUT THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, GIVING UH, THOSE, SOME FOLKS ON THE SOUTH SIDE A LITTLE BIT OF REPRIEVE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT, UH, WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION.

SO, UM, SO WE'RE NOT JUST FOCUSING ON ONE AREA, WE'RE WE'RE DOING IT THROUGHOUT.

SO YEAH, WE TRIED TO SPREAD OUT.

UM, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE WAS THE, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS WE HAVEN'T DONE, THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT.

WE, WHEN GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS DONE, THERE'S ANOTHER YEAR OR SO OF VARIOUS AREAS, SMALLER AREAS NOW.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THAT WE'LL WORK ON.

AND THEN, UH, AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE UTILITIES, WE'LL PAVE AND UM, BE ABLE TO LET THE RESIDENTS HAVE SOME PEACE FOR A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S, I'M SURE IT'S MUCH NEEDED.

.

YEAH, THAT WORKS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OVER? YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.

THANKS MS. MAYOR.

SO, UM, JOEL, THE, UH, WHEN YOU PRESENTED THOUGH A HOLISTIC MAP OF THE GRADING OF THE STREETS, THERE WAS I THINK ONE POOR STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS THAT, UM, , SO THE WORST OF THE STREETS, AND THAT'S IN THE OTHER PRESENTATION FILE, UH, IS HEARST DRIVE.

OH, OKAY.

UM, THAT, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING TOUCHED IN MANY IN SEVERAL SPOTS WITH THE UTILITIES RIGHT NOW, UM, AS WE'RE CROSSING IT.

SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF WEIRD TO HAVE A INTERSECTION, A GOOD SECTION OF STREET, NOT A POOR INTERSECTION.

OKAY.

YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

LIKE I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO UTILITIES AND THE OVERLAY, BUT JUST SEEING LIKE THIS GRILLING RED, I'M LIKE, WELL WHY AREN'T WE, WE TOUCHING IT? SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

YEAH.

WE COULD VERY EASILY COME TOMORROW AND PAVE IT AND THEY IN A YEAR HAVE TO TEAR IT UP TO, TO FINISH THE UTILITY WORK.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY, THANKS.

WE'RE TRYING TO UH, UM, THINK AND SPEND WISELY.

I DO HAVE, UM, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UH, ON SOME OF THE STREETS FOR FUTURE, LIKE JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE FOR THE BOARD AND SOME OTHERS.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER, IF NOT, YOU CAN PROVIDE IT TO ME LATER.

BUT, UM, FOR LOOKING AT THE PCI SCORES AND FROM WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE MAP HERE, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM.

UH, JUST COULD YOU KIND OF GIMME SOME INFORMATION ON THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AND WHAT'S OUR PLAN GOING FORWARD? SO, UH, AND TO THE NORTH OF SPRING VALLEY DRIVE, IT'S KIND OF IN ORANGES RIGHT THERE.

SPRING VALLEY? YES.

YEAH.

FROM HARWOOD SIMPSON TERRACE.

SO THAT, UH, SPRING VALLEY SPECIFICALLY, WE DID LOOK AT MM-HMM.

, UM, AND IT IS ONE THAT WILL NEED SOME UTILITY WORK.

OKAY.

WHAT, I MEAN, DO WE KNOW THE PCI ON THAT ONE? UM, I DO NOT KNOW IT OFFHAND.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE AND WHETHER WE ARE PLANNING WHAT'S ON THE LIST TO CORRECT TO TAG IT.

ALRIGHT.

IN ADDITION TO, I DID HAVE, UM, SHADY LAKE DRIVE, IT'S RIGHT SOUTH OF SHADY, UM, UH, THE SCHOOL THERE.

OKAY.

SEEMS LIKE A SMALL AREA TOO.

DO WE KNOW THE CONDITION OF THAT ROAD OR UTILITIES? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.

OKAY.

I DON'T LET THE NUMBERS OFFHAND, BUT WE, IT JUST THAT PORTION, YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING THAT PCI RATING ON THAT ONE, THAT'S VERY SMALL.

THAT'S A SMALL PORTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT WHETHER WE COULD TACKLE THAT OR NOT.

UH, JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THAT BIG.

THERE MAY BE MORE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS UNDERNEATH, BUT WANTED TO JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

YEAH.

AND WE CAN GO AND LOOK AT THAT AND YEAH.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE, THE MILLION DOLLARS, UH, BUDGETED.

IF, IF WE COME UP AND HAVE, UH, EXTRA MONEY, WE CAN, WE CAN SLIDE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS IN AS LONG AS THE UTILITIES AREN'T NEEDED.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO MAYBE WHEN, WHEN WE MEET IN SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE YEAH.

FOR ME, YEAH.

SOME OF THOSE IN ORANGE, UH, ON MY LIST OF SPRING VALLEY SHADER, LAKE KING DRIVE TO THE SOUTH THERE.

AND I'D HATE TO DO MORE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S NEEDED, IT'S NEEDED.

UM, AND THEN SAVANNAH WAY, UM, THOSE, THOSE ROADS WERE ON MY, ON MY LIST OF MAYBE HIM AND US TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY'RE IN ORANGE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN PROBABLY IN POOR CONDITION, UM, GETTING, GETTING A TACKLE ON THOSE SO WE DON'T LET 'EM DETERIORATE ANY FURTHER.

BUT SEEING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

YEAH, THE SAVANNAH WAY IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE, UH, THE OVERALL UTILITIES CURRENTLY.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO WE GOT THAT ONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

BUT YEAH, SO MAYBE IN SIX MONTHS WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE STREETS THERE AND, UM, SEE, COME BACK AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

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PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

MR. MAYOR.

YES.

UM, JOE, I, I HAVE A, THERE'S A STREET IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT KEEPS GETTING SAVED OUT EVERY SIX MONTHS AND IT BUBBLES OCCASIONALLY ACCORDING TO THE NEIGHBORS.

HOW DOES THAT, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE EVALUATING WHICH ONES HAVE TO BE REDONE OR, OR YOU'VE GOT ON THE LIST AND LIKE THAT ONE IS NOT ON THE LIST.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, MY NEIGHBORS KEEP TELLING ME, WELL, THEY JUST COME BY AND THEY PAVE OVER IT AND THEN THE BUBBLES COME BACK UP AND WE DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN SIX MONTHS LATER.

SO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU EVALUATE THESE, I ASSUME YOU'VE TAKEN IT FROM A BASE AND EVERY YEAR YOU ADD YOU, YOU'VE GOT SOME SORT OF SORT OF EVALUATION METHOD THAT YOU USE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THE STREETS, BUT YOU SAY BECAUSE OF WEAR AND TEAR, AND WE KNOW THIS ABOUT THAT, IT'S, IT'S MAYBE RAISED OR LOWERED ON THE EVALUATION, BUT IN, IN THE CASE OF LIKE IT'S OUT COVE, UM, IF IF IT'S REPORTED BY THE AREA AS TO BEING BAD, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT STREET? DOES IT EVER GET ADDED TO THE LIST OR DOES IT JUST HAVE TO WAIT IT'S TURNED LIKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW? NO, IF THERE'S SOMETHING AND THERE'S, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED REPEATEDLY AND JUST DOESN'T WORK, UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD TAKE A, A DEEPER LOOK INTO WHAT'S, WHAT'S ACTUALLY CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST THE PAVEMENT AT THAT POINT.

IT'S GONNA BE EITHER A UTILITY OR, OR MOVEMENT OR THE SCRUB GRADE IS BAD.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO, UM, WHEN THOSE ARE ARE BROUGHT TO, UH, OUR GROUP'S ATTENTION, WE'LL LOOK AT THEM.

UM, THE, THE PCI SCORES AND EVERYTHING ARE JUST ONE OF MANY GUIDELINES.

UM, AS WE GO AROUND FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS AND WHATNOT, WE'RE ALSO KEEPING AN EYE OUT ON STUFF THAT NEEDS TO GET LOOKED AT.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE HONESTLY JUST, I PERSONALLY, UH, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, 60 DAYS IN OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS STARTED THE SAME DAY AS ME AS YOU KNOW.

SO, UM, CHANGE IS HAPPENING, HOPEFULLY IMPROVEMENTS.

WELL, AND I, I FRANKLY JUST TELL 'EM, WELL IT'S NOT ON THE LIST , SO THAT'S MY ANSWER TO 'EM.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRETTY TO GET ON THE LIST, WE GOTTA KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT ON THE LIST.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

AND YOU KNOW, THE INSTANCE, LIKE, I KNOW IN OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE ALSO GOT TREES THAT ARE RAISING UP THE, THE, THE AND THEY'LL SAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? AND I SAID, WELL, AGAIN, LET ME CHECK MY LIST.

NO, IT'S NOT ON THE LIST, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT.

YEAH.

SO, UM, INTERNAL PATCHING LIKE THAT, I'M GONNA GO OUT AND WE'LL REASSESS THE WAY THEY'RE PATCHING THOSE THINGS AND THEY HAVE A STANDARD WAY, BUT THERE MAY BE MORE EXTENSIVE PATCH THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO INTERNAL.

OKAY.

AND WE CAN, WE, ONCE WE LOOK AT THAT, WE'LL DETERMINE THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK AT IT TOMORROW.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY LOOKS AT ME LIKE THEY ROLLED THEIR EYES FIRST AFTER I TOLD 'EM THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY IS EXPENSIVE.

SO THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS IF I AS A CITIZEN, WHICH I AM, UM, CALL UP AND SAY, HEY, I GOT A PROBLEM HERE.

THERE'S A POTHOLE FORMING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAT'S SWALLOWING MY FRONT YARD.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PROCESS, WHAT PROCESS DO YOU GUYS GO THROUGH TO ADDRESS THOSE, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS? I, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION.

UM, SO THE REAL PROCESS OF ANY KIND OF CONCERN THAT WOULD COME TO PUBLIC WORKS, BUT WHETHER IT BE STREET OR UH, UM, WET AREAS OR DRAINAGE OR WHATNOT, UM, UH, THE, HOWEVER WE GET AN EMAIL OR, OR PHONE TO THE MAIN PUBLIC WORKS LINE, UH, MYSELF OR, UH, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, CHRIS, OR ONE OF OUR INSPECTORS IS, IS INITIALLY GONNA GO OUT AND LOOK AND, AND MAKE CONTACT WITH THE RESIDENT OR WHOEVER MADE CONTACT, UH, WITH US.

UM, AND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS, IMMEDIATE THINGS WE CAN SEE IN THE AREA, THAT KIND OF THING.

LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW.

UM, AND THEN IF, UH, IF IT DOES WARRANT FURTHER INVESTIGATION, UM, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FINANCIALLY FOR, UH, WE WOULD GO AND UH, AND LOOK AT OPTIONS, UH, OF UH, OF WHAT CAN BE DONE.

WHAT ABOUT A, WHAT ABOUT A POTHOLE? SO CLEARLY POTHOLE TO THE CITY INDUSTRY? YEAH, IT'S A CLEAR POTHOLE AND IT'S THE FIRST, WE CALL IT FIRST TIME IT SHOWED UP.

YEAH.

WE CALL IT IN AND THE PUBLIC WORKS CREW WILL COME AND UH, AND PATCH.

IF IT'S A REOCCURRING POTHOLE OR IT'S A PATCH THAT'S JUST NOT STAYING, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING TO ISSUE OF HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO, UH, LOOK INTO AND AND FIGURE OUT IF IT'S THE, THE, THE METHOD PUBLIC WORKS IS USING, IS IT THE MATERIAL PROBLEM? IS IT A SUBGRADE THAT'S PUSHING UP A NUMBER OF ISSUES, WHICH COULD BE OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU

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JOE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KAREN RICKS, GO OVER THE NUMBERS.

YOUR HEADACHE BETTER? NO, I'M SORRY.

.

.

IT IS.

OKAY.

I WENT AND GOT MY BUDGET BOOKED TOO, SO I AM PREPARED.

.

THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE THAT, THAT ONE, UM, THIS JUST SHOWS YOU KIND OF WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING WE'RE GONNA END THE YEAR AND KIND OF WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR FOR 24, UM, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, SALES TAXES RELATIVELY FLAT.

SO FOR OUR YEAR END PROJECTION WE JUST USED BUDGET.

UM, AND THEN GOING INTO FY 25, WE DID A 2% OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.

UM, AND THEN INTEREST EARNINGS, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE DID A PROJECTION BASED ON KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN EARNING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND THEN WE WERE REALLY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR, IN OUR ESTIMATE FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, WE DO HAVE A REALLY GOOD PORTFOLIO AND IT'S LADDERED OUT, BUT WE STILL WANNA BE CONSERVATIVE.

I WOULD RATHER UNDER BUDGET REVENUES THAN INCOME IN HIGHER.

UM, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE, UM, AND I TOLD YOU SOME INCORRECT INFORMATION EARLIER, MAYOR AND I APOLOGIZE.

UM, FUND BALANCE FOR FY 24, I GAVE YOU WHAT WE HAD PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR 24.

WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO WHAT WE'RE IN THE YEAR.

OKAY.

UM, SO IF YOU'LL SEE FOR PROJECTIONS FOR EXPENSES WE'RE SITTING AT 4.3 MILLION.

UM, WE HAD BUDGETED 6.9 MILLION AND THOSE TWO PROJECTS, IT WAS PHYLLIS STREET AND GREGORY EDITION.

UM, AND SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN 25 WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUSH GREGORY EDITION INTO 25.

UM, AND SO WE'RE PROJECTING TO END THE YEAR IN A POSITIVE IN FUND BALANCE.

I MEAN, AND ALSO, UH, REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES IN 24.

SO, UM, WE'RE EXPECTING TO END THIS FISCAL YEAR WITH $5.2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

AND YOUR FUND BALANCE POLICY IS THE SAME ABOUT YOUR, UH, ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA END THE YEAR WITH 4.6 MILLION AND THEN INTO NEXT YEAR WITH THE GREGORY EDITION DIPPING INTO FUND BALANCE, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE 3.2 MILLION.

GOTCHA.

SO, GOTCHA.

THAT'S KIND RIGHT.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

KINDA SEEING WHERE WE WERE.

OKAY.

UM, EVERYTHING IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD, WE DIPPED INTO FUND BALANCE AGAIN AND UM, AND WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO SOME OF THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

UM, DOES THAT CONCERN YOU AT ALL WITH, I MEAN WE ARE, WE'RE DIPPING IN EVERY YEAR A LITTLE BIT? UM, NO, BECAUSE WE'RE DIPPING IN FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

YES.

IF WE WERE DIPPING INTO FUND BALANCE TO FUND OPERATIONS, I WOULD HAVE A BIGGER CONCERN.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHY YOU BUILD YOUR RESERVES SO THAT THEN YOU CAN UTILIZE IT.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS FUND IS FOR AS WELL, IS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND SO DIPPING INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS, THAT'S OKAY.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.

GOTCHA.

UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, SINCE OUR SALES TAX IS KIND OF FLATTENING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S KIND OF OUR FUTURE PLAN FOR STREETS? UM, AND SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE GET ABOUT $4 MILLION IN STREET YEAH.

AND IN SALES TAX FOR THIS FUND.

SO WE COULD DO A $2 MILLION PROJECT, UM, PROBABLY EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

HOWEVER, IF WE REACH A POINT WHERE SALES TAX ISN'T ENOUGH TO FUND OUR STREETS, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT ISSUING MORE DEBT.

UM, WE DID AN ISSUANCE THAT IN 2021 WE DID TWO.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS.

AND SO THIS FUND COULD SUPPORT AN ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER STREET PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH A DEBT ISSUANCE THAT'S, UM, ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE.

UM, THAT'S PARKWOOD, UM, BROWN TRAIL IS ON THAT LIST AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE OTHER MECHANISMS SUCH AS DEBT TO BE ABLE TO FUND LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS IF WE NEED TO.

WE NEED TO.

OKAY.

YEP.

UM, WHAT, UH, WHAT'S THE CAPACITY LOOKING LIKE FOR, FOR THAT DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE FUTURE? SO ON OUR TAX RATE SIDE OR ON THIS? ON THIS SIDE? ON THIS SIDE? YEAH, ON THIS SIDE SIDE.

I DID NOT HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR RUN THOSE NUMBERS, SO I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I WOULD ESTIMATE, 'CAUSE I WANNA SAY THAT 21 ISSUANCE WAS ABOUT 8 MILLION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

SIX TO 8 MILLION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR AND WITH OUR INTEREST RATES ARE BETTER RIGHT NOW, YOU PROBABLY ESTIMATE A SIMILAR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

SO IT'D PROBABLY ANOTHER 8 MILLION WOULD GET US ANOTHER 600,000.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COUNCILOR FAR AND, AND MAYOR, I DON'T IT'S OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, WE BUDGETED TO PULL OUT A FUND BALANCE.

CORRECT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T, THAT'S WHY THE YES.

THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO WE WE'RE REALLY HAVEN'T DIPPED INTO FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.

YES.

WE'RE JUST DOING IT NEXT YEAR.

WELL, AND I THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUALS GOING BACK TO 21, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD A POSITIVE ADDITION TO FUND BALANCE EVEN THOUGH WE WERE EXPECTING TO USE IT FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO YEAH.

JUST MORE, YEAH.

MORE HEALTHY FUND BALANCE FROM THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

YES.

UM, SO, UM, LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT ALL THIS,

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UM, FOR, FOR THAT, UM, YEAH, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE DEBT ISSUANCE IS.

I MEAN I, I'D HATE TO, I'M LOOKING AT THE PCI SCORES AND I'D HATE TO SEE START TO GO DOWN MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

UM, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WHEN TALKING TO RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THEY'VE REALLY, THEY'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE IN THE STREETS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, OUR RESIDENTS CAN JUST VISCERALLY SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND, AND, AND BECAUSE OUR STREETS WE'RE LOOKING SO POOR FOR SO LONG, UM, WHAT I WOULD HATE FOR US TO DO IS GET BEHIND.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON COURSE AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT, 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE THAT LIST TOGETHER OF STREETS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND THE CONDITION THAT THEY'RE IN.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AND START LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SO WE CAN, I I WANNA STAY ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO EVER GET INTO A POSITION, UM, COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH.

WE WERE BEING A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE, BUT NOW OUR STREETS ARE IN POOR CONDITION AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY MORE BECAUSE OF IT.

RIGHT.

SO I'D RATHER BE UPFRONT, GET A HANDLE ON THESE ROADS SO THEY DON'T SLIP WELL.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UM, JOE AND I HAD.

I TOLD HIM HE AND I WERE GONNA BE BEST FRIENDS AS WE BUILD OUR CAPITAL, OUR CAPITAL PLAN.

BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A VALID POINT.

AND WE'VE GOTTA GET A PLAN TOGETHER TO KNOW, OKAY, WELL THESE MAY BE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR LOWER SCORING STREETS, BUT TO HIS POINT, MAYBE THERE'S SOME UTILITY WORK.

SO WHAT DOES THAT OVERALL CAPITAL PLAN LOOK LIKE? AND THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA FUND IT? YEAH.

AND SO, UM, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

OKAY.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT, UM, IF YOU WANT, I CAN GET IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE TO KNOW WHAT OUR DEBT CAPACITY LOOKS LIKE FOR FOUR B.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

SO ASKING A LOT FOR OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, UPDATE ON THE STREETS.

YEAH.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY STACK AGENDA, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE DISCUSSION ON, ON WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, UM, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

UM, REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.

UH, SOME OF OUR EXPENDITURES JUST FOR RECORD PUBLIC, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THEY KNOW IF THEY HAPPEN TO WATCH THIS MEETING.

UM, BRADY SAID CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THAT, THAT IS FOR, UM, THE, YOU SAY MILL AND OVERLAY.

UM, ANYTHING EL OTHER CONCRETE WORK.

CONCRETE WORK, ASPHALT WORK, ASPHALT WORK AND ALL OF THAT IS IN THAT LINE ITEM.

GOTCHA.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN THE, AND THE CAPITAL OUTLAY IS, THAT'S THE GREGORY EDITION.

GOTCHA.

YES.

GOTCHA.

YES.

ALRIGHT FOR THAT ONE.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

S WHERE PARKER YOU GETTING COMMENT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FITS IN THERE.

I DID HAVE A, A, A FEW PEOPLE ASK US IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF FOREST RIDGE BETWEEN BEDFORD ROAD AND, UH, THE GENERATIONS PARK, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE COMING THAT WAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UTILITY ISSUES OR, BUT, UM, UH, THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION IF WE WERE PLANNING.

'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE PARKS FOR FEST AND, AND, UH, BEETS AND EATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY JUST WERE CURIOUS WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE A WALK THAT'S BEEN PUT ON OUR RADAR AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND WE'RE KIND OF, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS BUILDING KIND OF A SIDEWALK PLAN OF KIND OF KNOWING WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE AND WHAT WE NEED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO US.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND I, I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT IF I, IF I HAD SO MUCH ENDLESS AMOUNT OF FUNDS, I WOULD MAKE SURE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS BECAUSE YOU GO, YOU GO TO THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW OF 'EM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S GENERALLY MISSING IN A LOT OF PORTIONS AND I GET TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SIDEWALKS? I'M LIKE, AH, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S SO EXPENSIVE NOWADAYS.

SO I WISH, I WISH THAT THE BUILDING, WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THESE ADDITIONS BACK IN LONG AGO, UH, THAT THEY MADE THIS PART OF PART OF THE CODE, SO THEY HAD TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY HERE WE ARE.

SO, UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SLOWLY CHIP AWAY.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE'D HAVE TO SLOWLY CHIP AWAY AT WHEN IT COMES TO SIDEWALKS.

YES.

FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS MORE ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET? OKAY.

WELL, I, WE, THIS IS A, I GUESS THIS IS AN ACTIONABLE ITEM, SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

I HAVE A FIRST FROM, UM, DIRECTOR LOPER TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, BY, UH, DIRECTOR INGRAM.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU STAFF.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND NEXT UP IS, UH, ADJOURN.

I DON'T HAVE MY MAYOR PRO TEM HERE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, BUT, UM, OH, I HAVE A FIRST TO, UH, ADJOURN.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FAROL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT 7 0 4.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.