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[CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL]
2024. WE'LL START WITH OUR ROLL CALL OF COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.WELCOME, COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE A FULL, FULL STAFF THIS EVENING.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR US BEING HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER ALL OF US AS WE LEAD OUR LIVES.
BLESS THIS COMMISSION AND GUIDE US YOUR WISDOM IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS.
THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
BLESS US ALL AS WE LIVE HERE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY.
ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM IS WE ARE TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR OUR MEETING ON JUNE 27TH, 2024.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES FROM COMMISSIONERS.I WASN'T HERE. IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PUBLISHED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY, WE'VE APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 27TH, 2024 MEETING.
ENRIQUE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO SIGN PRIOR DOCUMENTS THIS EVENING? OKAY, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE AT THE END OF THAT.
OKAY. EXCELLENT. WELCOME, FOLKS.
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THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING.IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT AN ITEM THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME TIME, I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNSEL THAT WE CAN COMBINE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ALL THREE ITEMS AS A INPUT FOR ALL THREE, SINCE ALL THREE OF THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE RELATED, AND NOT HAVING TO TRY TO STRUCTURE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE ONLY SPEAK TO EACH INDIVIDUAL POINT.
BUT WITHIN THAT PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE THE ONLY ONE.
AND WE WILL ENTERTAIN INFORMATION FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ANY OF THE THREE ITEMS ON ITEM TWO, 3 OR 4 ON THE AGENDA AS A CONSOLIDATED PUBLIC HEARING STAFF, THIS IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY, APPENDIX B, CHAPTER THREE PERMITTED USES.
WES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSION MEMBERS.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
I THINK EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE.
DURING THAT PROCESS, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE.
THE WHEN IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE APPLICANT DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THAT APPLICATION AND COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND TO SEE IF THERE WERE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE TO BEDFORD COMMONS TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS THAT THEY WERE WANTING TO OPERATE, ALL WHILE PROTECTING THE CHARACTER AND THE GOALS OF BEDFORD COMMONS.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
WE IN APRIL, STAFF PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT LAND USE DEFINITION.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS DOING.
SO, IN APRIL WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR THAT LAND USE.
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BEDFORD COMMONS. AND IN MAY, THE COMMISSION CONDUCTED THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THAT DEFINITION.WORK AGAIN WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TRIED THIS AGAIN.
AND SO, THIS IS OUR SECOND CHANCE AT THIS.
SO, WITH THAT, I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
I'VE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT IN DETAIL, AND WE CAME UP WITH A KIND OF A WHAT I WOULD CALL A FAIRLY DETAILED DEFINITION. NOT A TYPICAL LAND USE DEFINITION BY, BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL USE.
AND SO WE TRIED TO ENCOMPASS EVERYBODY'S GOALS IN THIS LAND USE DEFINITION.
SO JUST FOR THE MATTER OF THE RECORD, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AND READ IT FOR YOU.
THE USES IDENTIFIED AS AN AUTOMOTIVE RESTORATION AND ENGINEERING WHICH IS THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING, FABRICATION AND REFURBISHMENT AND INTERIOR SHOWCASING OR DISPLAYING OF ANTIQUE OR AND CLASSIC CARS AS DEFINED BY THE STATE TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTION 6.83. 077B, INCLUDING PROTOTYPE VEHICLES.
RESTORATION INCLUDES DISMANTLING OF A WHOLE OR PART OF A VEHICLE, REPAIRING AND REPLACING DAMAGED METAL MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS AND INSIDE CABIN FIXTURES, AND THEN REASSEMBLING THE WHOLE VEHICLE AND APPLYING AUTOMOTIVE COATINGS TO RESTORE THE VEHICLE EITHER TO ITS ORIGINAL OR CUSTOMIZED APPEARANCE.
IT IS INTENDED THIS USE IS INTENDED TO BE A UNIQUE AUTOMOTIVE RESTORATION USE THAT SERVES AS A DESTINATION WHERE ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC CAR ENTHUSIASTS CAN RECEIVE AUTOMOTIVE RESTORATION SERVICES, SHOP FOR RELATED APPAREL AND ACCESSORIES, AND INCLUDES PROMOTIONAL EVENTS RELATED TO THE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S ADOPTED SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE.
ADDITIONAL USES MAY INCLUDE THE CLEAN MANUFACTURING OF PROTOTYPE VEHICLES OR AUTOMOTIVE PARTS.
ALSO INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU HAVE.
AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF OUR USES WE HAVE.
WE USUALLY ADD CONDITIONS AS TO DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS AS TO HOW WHAT HOW THEY MUST FUNCTION.
THESE ARE VERY STANDARD TO WHAT IS IN MOST OF OUR AUTOMOTIVE USES.
BUT I'LL JUST READ THOSE FOR THE RECORD.
ALL EXTERIOR PARKING LOT LIGHTING SHALL BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
NO DUMPSTER SHALL BE LOCATED WITHIN 50FT OF ANY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
WITH THAT, TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT KEEP IN MIND THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO ONCE IF APPROVED, THIS WILL BE A USE THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO, WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF BEDFORD.
THAT IS CORRECT. JUST TO REITERATE THAT ONE MORE TIME.
YEP. GO THROUGH STEP ONE, COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN.
WES. LET ME JUST ASK YOU, BECAUSE YOU'VE WRITTEN THIS, IT'S PRETTY STRICT, PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE.
MR. MURRAY'S DONE EXTREMELY WELL.
AND HIS WIFE SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO RETIRE.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO TAHITI OR WHEREVER.
SO THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELD TO THESE EXACT SAME RESTRICTIONS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO, LET'S I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC ON THE BUILDING BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS A USE CITYWIDE.
BUT ANYBODY THAT WOULD COME IN AND APPLY FOR THIS USE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THIS DEFINITION.
OKAY. SO IT WOULD ALMOST IN A SENSE, I WOULD THINK IF MR. MURRAY AND MAYBE HE WOULD SELL THE BUSINESS, HE WOULD HAVE TO SELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE THAT SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE IT IS A UNIQUE BUSINESS.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT CHARACTERIZATION.
OKAY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO US.
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JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE DEFINITION.IT SAYS THERE CAN BE RETAIL AND THERE CAN BE THE EVENTS.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT SO THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPECTED OR IT'S JUST YOU'RE ALLOWED TO IT'S THEY'RE ALLOWED TO THAT'S I MEAN TO ME THAT'S THE UNIQUE PART ABOUT THIS DEFINITION BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS, IT'S THINGS THAT MAY BE ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE ANYWAY.
BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REALLY MAKE THIS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND, SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING BE DEDICATED TO RETAIL, OR THAT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS HAVE TO HAPPEN PER YEAR.
AND I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IN ON READING THESE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS IS IF SOMEONE ELSE MOVES IN, WE CAN'T PUT ANY STIPULATIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OR OTHERWISE TO SAY FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO RENEW FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO BE APPROVED AS WELL.
I'M NOT SURE I'M FOLLOWING THE QUESTION.
WOULD SOMEONE ELSE COULD THERE BE ANY KIND OF STIPULATION WE COULD PUT IN HERE TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, OKAY, WELL, THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT LATER ON IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE RETAIL, DOESN'T HAVE EVENTS MOVING IN TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, THE NEXT TIME THERE'S AN SAP OR SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO MOVE IN, IF THEY MOVE, YOU KNOW, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
TO REQUIRE THAT FROM A DIFFERENT BUSINESS OR TO BE VETTED.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DO IF YOU HAVE BRAND, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN.
RIGHT. I MEAN, THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS ZONING IS LAND BASED.
IT CAN'T BE RELATED TO THE OCCUPANTS OR OWNERS OF THE BUILDING.
SO, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A EXPIRATION DATE THAT'S TIED TO OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS TO HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON THE SOUP ITSELF.
BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU RUN THE RISK OF THE APPLICANT NOT MOVING AND THE SOUP EXPIRING AND HAVING TO COME BACK AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY MADE EXPENDITURES AND INVESTMENTS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT COULD RESULT IN PRETTY SEVERE HARDSHIP.
AND WE CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS WE MOVE DOWN THROUGH OUR ITEMS THIS EVENING.
SO, COMMISSIONERS, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE PARTICIPANTS.
MR. MURRAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US THIS EVENING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO BE FIRST.
IF NOT, YOU CAN WAVE AND SAY HI.
WELL. HEATH MURRAY, 1609 HEATHER LANE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS.
I'VE SEEING ALL OF Y'ALL, EXCEPT FOR YOU, KATE.
WELCOME. WANT TO TELL YOU ALL THANK YOU TOO, FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL THAT HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO LOOK INTO MY BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY RESEARCHED WHAT WE DO AND SEEING WHAT WE DO FIRSTHAND. DANIELLE WAS REALLY KIND TO MEET ME FOR BREAKFAST ONE MORNING AND GIVE ME HER IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AS WELL.
ONE THING THAT I'VE SEEN, THE LETTERS THAT YOU ALL JUST ALL LOOKED AT AS WELL.
SO ONE THING THAT IS SHOCKING TO ME AND HAS CONTINUED TO SHOCK ME, IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION ON WHAT OUR SALES TAX IS OR ISN'T. THAT NUMBER HAS NEVER BEEN RELEASED TO ANYBODY, MUCH LIKE TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS.
SO. IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION, RATHER THAN PEOPLE JUST WILDLY STATING THAT THERE IS NO SALES TAX OR IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A COMMISSION ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
NOR IS IT SOMETHING WE REVIEW IN THE APPLICATION FOR USES IN ZONING.
AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT.
WELL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION FOR IT TO BE PUBLIC RECORD.
BUT I WOULD RATHER YOU, YOU KNOW.
BECAUSE IT'S WILDLY UNDERSTATED.
BUT YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE CONTEXT OF THIS MEETING AND THIS COMMISSION.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE DELVE INTO AT ALL, WHETHER IT BE GROSS REVENUE, PROFITABILITY, TAXES, ANY OF THOSE BUSINESS RELATED FUNCTIONALITIES WE DON'T DEAL WITH HERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE AND EVEN TO AN SUP.
OKAY. WELL YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T COME TO PRESENT.
I DIDN'T BRING ANY ATTORNEYS THIS TIME.
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WE KEPT HERE AS HE WAS JUST TIRED OF STANDING IN THE SUNLIGHT.I DO HAVE A QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR ALL OF US.
BUT GIVEN THE THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU AT ITS HIGHEST LEVEL AND EVEN DEEPEST LEVEL? DOES THIS DESCRIPTION WORK FOR YOU? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHAT, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAD ENOUGH INPUT IN THE GENERATION? ABSOLUTELY. STAFF WAS AWESOME IN WORKING ON THE ON THE DEFINITION AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND HELPING ME CREATE SOMETHING THAT WORKED WELL FOR ME AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THOUGHT WORKED WITH THE CITY.
ONE THING THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE EVER REALLY HIT ON, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A THING UNTIL MEETING WITH DANIELLE WAS MORE OR LESS Y'ALL LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF RETAIL FRONTAGE OR HAVING A RETAIL PORTION OF THE BUSINESS, WHICH I ASSUME IT DIDN'T COME UP AT THAT POINT BECAUSE Y'ALL ASSUMED THAT WASN'T PART OF MY BUSINESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GENEROUS AMOUNT OF SHIRTS THAT WE DO SELL.
SO, WE WERE PLANNING ON SELLING RETAIL STUFF THERE AS WELL.
AND AS WE'VE ALL EVOLVED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW THAT JUST SINCE WE'RE DELVING THIS WHOLE THING THAT WASN'T MADE CLEAR, EVEN MENTIONED IN THE INITIAL PRESENTATION THAT CAME BEFORE US, THAT THAT WAS A PIECE OR A PART OF YOUR PARTICULAR BUSINESS.
AND AS TIME GOES ON, YOUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN BETTER DEFINED TO US.
THIS IS MY FIRST RODEO GOING THROUGH, WELL, FIFTH NOW, BUT THIS IS MY FIRST RODEO DOING THIS.
Y'ALL WANT SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE EVENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE NEW BEDFORD MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROVISIONS TO PUT, YOU KNOW, PYLONS OR WHATNOT AT THE END OF TEXAS HARLEY WAY AND SHUT THAT OFF TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS AND, YOU KNOW, MUSIC AND EVENTS OUT THERE.
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS WELL AND HAVE PREPARATIONS FOR.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT, HE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH Y'ALL AS WELL AND KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL MORE OF A BACKGROUND ON WHAT IT IS HE DOES AND HOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PLANNING ON HAVING MORE EVENTS.
SO YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL WHATEVER Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR OR WANT TO HEAR.
COMMISSIONERS START WITH COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN.
QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT, KEITH MURRAY.
MR. MURRAY. AS YOU KNOW, MR. JACOBSEN WENT DOWN AND VISITED WITH YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE WRITE UP HE DID.
IT WAS EXCELLENT. I HAVE NOT SEEN.
AND THIS ISN'T REALLY GERMANE TO THE ZONING, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE A TURNKEY OPERATION.
BUT IT MENTIONED IN THERE YOU DON'T DO THE PAINTING SO THAT'S OUTSOURCED.
IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU DON'T DO THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS. WELL.
IT'S DIFFICULT, IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER BUSINESS IN ITSELF.
OKAY. IT WOULD TAKE A, YOU KNOW, ONE.
OKAY. AND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO.
OKAY, IS WHERE IT STARTS OUT FOR US AND GOES UP TO OVER 100.
WHEN YOU MESS UP, IT'S EXPENSIVE.
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I WAS LED TO BELIEVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISPLAY THOSE OUTSIDE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE DISPLAYED OUTSIDE DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE AN AUTOMOBILE LIKE THAT.
WE COULDN'T LEAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUTSIDE.
OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT YOUR MAIN TO THE ZONING.
IT'S JUST FROM READING MR. JACOBSON'S REPORT, WHICH WAS EXCELLENT AND GOT TO SEE A LOT OF THINGS IN HIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. MRS. STELLRECHT. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SITE PLAN YET? YOU SAID WE COULD ROLL IT ALL INTO ONE.
OR SHOULD I WAIT? LET'S WAIT ON SPECIFICS ON THE ITEMS. MR. JACOBSEN, THIS IS JUST FOR BACKGROUND.
THIS IS FOR ANYBODY THAT WONDERED.
WHY DID THIS TAKE SO LONG? MY OWN JOURNEY WITH THIS STARTED WITH THE REJECTION BOTH OF BY OURSELVES AND THE COUNCIL.
AND I TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND AS I LOOKED AT IT, I SAID THE FIRST THING THAT CAUSED THIS WAS THIS HALF INCH DOCUMENT CALLED THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD THAT WE TRIED TO ADHERE TO THE LETTER, WHICH IS OUR JOB.
AND THE SECOND THING IS I SENSED A FAILURE TO ENGAGE ON BOTH PARTIES.
AFTER I CAME BACK FROM THE VISIT WITH YOUR SHOP, I SAID, WHY DIDN'T HEATH TELL US ALL THE THINGS HE WAS DOING THERE? THE, THE T SHIRTS, THE CARS OUT FRONT? THIS BECAME A REVELATION FOR ME, AND THIS BECAME ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I NOW FIND MYSELF VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR BUSINESS.
AND I THINK IT WAS GOOD THAT HE WAS OPEN MINDED TO DO SO.
AND I DECIDED IF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR HIM TO DO IT, CERTAINLY I CAN DO IT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR VISIT.
YOU ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS, AND THE THING THAT I WAS INTRIGUED ABOUT AND AM PLEASED TO SEE IS, AGAIN, I POINTED OUT TO PEOPLE THAT PAINTING.
AND THIS IS IN THE NEW WRITE UP.
AS WELL AS WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO IN TERMS OF RETAIL EVENTS.
THAT ENCOURAGED ME TO SAY, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A DIALOG NOW AND WE BOTH GIVEN HAD SOME GIVE AND TAKE, SO IT WAS VERY PLEASING TO ME IN THE LONG RUN TO SEE THAT BOTH PARTIES CAME TOGETHER.
IT TOOK A LITTLE TIME, BUT I'M GLAD WHERE WE I'M GLAD THAT WE ALL DID OUR PART.
YOU KNOW TO SPEAK ON THE TRAILER SITUATION OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT IN A FENCED IN AREA.
YOU KNOW, I WANT A NICE DECORATIVE BLOCK WALL.
I HAVE A THE TRAILER I HAVE IS A IT'S $100,000 TRAILER.
IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, $5,000 TRAILER.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY NICE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO LEAVE OUTSIDE.
AND ALSO, OUR SHOT VEHICLE IS NOT LIKE WHAT PROBABLY MOST OF Y'ALL THINK OF AS IT'S NOT A SANFORD AND SON PICKUP TRUCK RUNNING AROUND TOWN. IT'S ALL ONE COLOR.
AND YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY NICE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT BEHIND A FENCE AS WELL, TO KEEP IT FROM GETTING VANDALIZED OR DAMAGED.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY NOT TO CALL IT A BODY SHOP.
I DID IN HIS PRESENCE, AND I GOT A PRETTY BAD LOOK.
WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY.
YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTION WITH THE MR. MURRAY? THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU ALL. FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PATIENCE.
THANK YOU ALL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM TO GO BEYOND ANYTHING THAT MR. MURRAY HAS, HAS INFORMED US? WELCOME, SIR.
HI, SAL CARUSO, 148 RAVENSWOOD.
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AFTER THE CHANGE IN THE TERMINOLOGY OR THE LANGUAGE, I THINK I'M VERY HOPEFUL.HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL BE A POSITIVE VOTE.
I'VE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF MR. MURRAY, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN BEDFORD THAT WANT THIS TO THIS BUSINESS TO COME TO BEDFORD IN THAT LOCATION. AND I KNOW YOU FOLKS AS A BODY HAVE BEEN PUT UNDER A, I GUESS, A MICROSCOPE, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT YOUR QUALIFICATIONS AND AND SO FORTH.
I DON'T SHARE THAT OPINION, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I WAS ON A COMMISSION FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.
I KNOW THE TIME, THE EFFORT, THE HOURS THAT ARE PUT IN BEHIND THE SCENES.
AND I CAN THANK ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THAT AND BEING A SERVICE TO BEDFORD.
YEAH. ANY OTHER OF THE SMILEY FACES IN OUR AUDIENCE TO SEE WHERE WE GO? THERE'S THE PRETTIEST FACE RIGHT THERE.
I AM VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE WORKED OUR WAY TO THIS POINT THIS EVENING.
I AM VERY HOPEFUL OF THE KIND OF CUSTOMERS THAT WILL BE COMING TO THIS SHOP AND PUTTING BEDFORD ON THE MAP, PROVIDING SOME VERY UNIQUE SERVICES AND THE KIND OF REVENUE THAT WE MIGHT DERIVE FROM THIS AND ENTERTAINMENT. I AM SURE THAT MY GRANDSON CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON DISPLAY, OR IN SOME KIND OF CONTEST CONTEXT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND NOW COMMISSIONERS WILL DO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF OUR OPERATION THIS EVENING.
I READ ITEM TWO ON OUR AGENDA WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS NEW USE THAT WES PRESENTED FOR US TO DETERMINE, ADDING IT TO THE GENERAL CITY OF BEDFORD ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE CHAPTER REFERENCED EARLIER THIS DEFINITION WILL BE PART OF THE CITYWIDE ZONING ORDINANCE, AT THIS POINT, ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE ONE ITEM IN THERE.
IT RELATED TO BEDFORD COMMONS AND THE DEFINITION THAT IT'S HOME TO ART AND ARTIST, NATURE AND NATURE LOVERS, BUSINESS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
IT'S ALWAYS EVOLVING AND HOLDING TO THE IDEALS AND VALUES THAT MAKE IT SPECIAL IN BEDFORD.
I THINK THAT THERE'S SYNERGY HERE BETWEEN THIS APPLICANT AND BEDFORD'S VISION FOR WHAT? IF WE THINK IN TERMS THAT THE PRODUCT THAT'S OF THIS APPLICANT'S WORK IS ART BY ARTISANS SKILLED IN METAL, GLASS, PAINT, GRAPHICS AND OTHER SCULPTING.
HE'S WON SEVERAL AWARDS FOR ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CRAFTSMANSHIP, SUCH AS THE LONE STAR NATIONALS, LONE STAR ROUND UPS HELD LOCALLY AND LOCALLY, AND THE GOOD GUYS HOT ROD OF THE YEAR ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
IN RESEARCHING THE APPLICANT, I FOUND SEVERAL COMMON TRAITS THAT WERE SOURCED FROM VARIOUS WEBSITES WHICH DEMONSTRATE THE ARTISANS SKILLS.
STYLE, FOR EXAMPLE, DISTINCTIVE DESIGNS, EYE CATCHING MODIFICATIONS, EXCLUSIVITY, LIMITED EDITION AND RARE MODELS, CUSTOMIZATION, PERSONALIZED TOUCHES.
UNIQUE MODIFICATIONS, COMMUNITY CAR CLUBS, ENTHUSIASTIC GATHERINGS AND DISPLAYS.
CULTURE, IT REPRESENTS A UNIQUE BLEND OF ART ENGINEERING, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING FROM PERFORMANCE, FROM ACCELERATION TO HANDLING TO BRAKING, SAFETY AND STABILITY.
AND THEN THERE'S TECHNOLOGICAL INTEGRATIONS.
UPGRADED INFOMAX SYSTEMS, GPS PERFORMANCE MONITORING AND CRAFTSMANSHIP, THE ART AND CRAFT OF VEHICLE RESTORATION. THESE ARE NOT THE DESCRIPTORS OF A COMMONLY USED BY AUTO REPAIR SHOPS.
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AND THEREFORE, I THINK IF WE THINK OF THIS AS AN ART SHOP SPECIALIZING IN CUSTOM AUTO RESTORATION, IT BLENDS WITH THE VISION OF BEDFORD COMMONS.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS BEING ADDED TO THE CITY OF BEDFORD ZONING ORDINANCE? RAISE YOUR HAND. SIX ANY THOSE OPPOSED.
MOTION PASSES TO ADD THIS SPECIFIC USE TO THE CITY OF BEDFORD ZONING ORDINANCE.
NOW, COUPLED WITH THAT AFTER COMMISSIONER SMITH DEFINITION AND DESCRIPTION OF THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS USE, WE'RE NOW TO CONSIDER ADDING THIS UNIQUE USE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING TO ALLOW IT TO BE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE BEDFORD COMMONS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SECTION 5.0, SCHEDULED USES TO ALLOW AN AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING AND RESTORATION USE IN THE CORE MIXED USE CHARACTER ZONE WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WHERE THIS USE THAT WE JUST APPROVED CITY WIDE WILL NOW DRILL DOWN AND SPECIFICALLY APPROVE IT FOR USE WITHIN THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD.
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS ITEM BEFORE WE PROGRESS WITH ANYTHING THAT WE'VE MISSED? THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, NO, I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THE, THIS AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY TO BEDFORD COMMONS PUD LAND USE CHART.
WE JUST TOOK A SNIPPET OF THE LAND USE CHART RELATED TO AUTOMOTIVE USES HERE.
AND IT'S ALLOWED IN THE CORE MIXED USE CHARACTER ZONE WITH AN SUP.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, YOUR THOUGHTS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THIS WOULD EITHER BE TO APPROVE OR DENY ADDING THIS NEW USE SPECIFICALLY TO BEDFORD COMMONS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THIS USE FOR BEDFORD COMMONS.
THAT WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE NEW USE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY P AND Z AND WILL BE REFERRED TO COUNCIL, AS WILL THE OTHER ITEM THAT THESE BE ADDED TO THE ZONING FOR BOTH ZONES.
[4. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a zoning change from the Planned Unit Development (PUD) Bedford Commons to Planned Unit Development (PUD) Bedford Commons/Specific Use Permit (PUD/SUP) to permit an Automotive Engineering and Restoration use on Lots 2 & 3 Block 1 First State Bank Addition. The 2-acre site is located approximately 750 feet north of State Highway 121 on the east side of Parkwood Drive and is commonly known as 1916 Parkwood Drive. (SUP-24-10)]
DEVELOPMENT PUD BEDFORD COMMONS TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUD BEDFORD COMMON SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO PERMIT AN AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING AND RESTORATION USE ON LOTS TWO PLUS THREE BLOCK ONE, FIRST STATE BANK ADDITION.THE TWO-ACRE SITES, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 750FT NORTH OF HIGHWAY 121 ON THE EAST SIDE OF PARKWAY WOOD DRIVE, IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1916 PARKWOOD DRIVE.
NOW AGAIN SITE IS I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR 1916 PARKWOOD THE LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND PROPERTY ORIGINALLY ZONED OR WAS ORIGINALLY R 9000, WHICH IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN 2007 WAS ZONED TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR THE MOTORCYCLE SALES AND REPAIR. IN 2019, IT WAS ADDED TO BEDFORD COMMONS.
ALREADY KIND OF GONE OVER WHAT HAPPENED IN 2003 AND SINCE.
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NORTH OF THE AIRPORT FREEWAY FRONTAGE ROAD.THIS IS SITE PLAN THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
MOST OF THE SITE IS GOING TO STAY RELATIVELY THE SAME.
AND THAT IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL DRIVE AND PARKING AREA TO ACCOMMODATE THE STORAGE OF THE COMPANY VEHICLE AND TRAILER THAT, THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE THE ADDITION OF THIS DRIVE AND THE ADDITION OF SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S PROPOSING TRIGGER A FEW THINGS IN BEDFORD COMMONS, THERE'S A PRETTY DETAILED APPLICABILITY CHART THAT IF YOU DO, IF YOU ARE WORKING WITH A NON-CONFORMING BUILDING AND YOU DO ONE THING, IT TRIGGERS OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
AND SO, IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE DETERMINED THAT A BEDFORD COMMONS REQUIRES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY IT ENCOURAGES.
BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO DO SOME TYPE OF PARKING LOT SCREENING.
AND SO, THE APPLICANT CAME UP WITH A DESIGN.
SO, THIS IS A DETAIL ON THE SCREENING THERE.
GOING INTO THOSE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT HAPPENS? I JUST TOOK SOME SCREENSHOTS AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE DETAILS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
I DID THAT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA IN THE PUBLIC AND GENERAL IDEA.
SO, I DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY DO A DIVE DEEP INTO THOSE.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AS AS THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, HE WILL HAVE TO GRADUALLY BRING THE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE WITH BEDFORD COMMONS WES ON THAT NOTE.
YES. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
SO, IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING THIS SUP, ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THOSE TRIGGERS AND THE RESULTING REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE TRIGGERS INSIDE BEDFORD COMMONS? WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT, AND I AM CONFIDENT THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
SO, I FEEL LIKE HE'S VERY AWARE.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE SURE THAT STAFF IS VERY AWARE.
WE ARESURE WE'RE A LITTLE TOO SURE AT THIS POINT.
YES. JUST AS A JUST AN ASIDE, I KNOW I'M INTERRUPTING YOU, BUT JUST.
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD ANY APPLICANT UNDERSTOOD THE REQUIREMENTS INSIDE THE BEDFORD SPECIFIC PUD AND ALL OF THOSE DETAILS THAT ARE IN THERE FOR ANY BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO BEDFORD COMMONS IN THE FUTURE.
THIS, FORTUNATELY, IS REALLY OUR FIRST FORAY INTO THAT, BUT THAT THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD WAS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN WITH SOME BEYOND ABOVE, IF YOU WILL, HIGHER STANDARDS OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST OUTSIDE OF BEDFORD COMMONS IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO, ENRIQUE, IF YOU'D GO BACK ONE SCREEN, THERE WE GO.
I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER STELLRECHT HAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE.
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YEAH. ON THE VERY FRONT, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING.IS THAT GOING TO BE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS? PROBABLY A BETTER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW.
IS IT REQUIRED FOR ALL OF THE BUSINESS.
LIKE COULD THAT BE REGULATED TO WHERE THAT WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKING ON THE TRAILER SIDE? NO, THE SITE.
YEAH. SO BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO HAVE 28 PARKING SPACES.
AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROPERTY HAS.
SO THE BEDFORD COMMON SETS ITS OWN PARKING RATIO AS WELL.
AND SO THIS BUILDING IS MAXED OUT ESSENTIALLY AT ITS PARKING.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MAKE THAT.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO REQUIRE, I GUESS, ON THE SUP THEN THAT NATIVE PLANTS BE USED, OR AT LEAST NOT INVASIVE ONES, BECAUSE THE ONES LISTED RIGHT NOW ARE INVASIVE. BOTH OF THEM. SO THE BEDFORD COMMONS SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT A PLANTING MATERIAL, AND HE'S MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE HAVE INVASIVE LISTS ON OUR PLANTING REQUIREMENT LIST IN BEDFORD COMMONS.
OKAY, SOUNDS LIKE A FUTURE AMENDMENT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESSED THAT BECAUSE SURE, COMMISSIONER HAD HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER STELLRECHT? I WROTE DOWN. OH, CAN YOU ON THE PIECE ABOUT SAYS THERE'S A POSSIBLE CONFLICT WITH THE SUP CONDITION AROUND THE ROLL UP DOORS.
WHAT DOES THAT POSSIBLE CONFLICT? I'M SORRY. WHAT? IT'S IN YOUR IN THE WRITE UP ON.
PAGE FOUR IN THE STAFF REPORT SAYS REPLACE ROLL UP DOORS OR GLASS.
NEED TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF REGARDING CONFLICT WITH POSSIBLE SECURITY CONDITION.
SO, THERE IS NO CONFLICT THERE.
WHILE WE'RE ON THIS, THIS SCREEN IN FRONT OF US HERE EXPLAIN AGAIN ABOUT THE WRAP AROUND DRIVE THAT'S IN THE PLAN. HOW DOES THAT WORK? DOES THAT IS A DEAD END INTO THE BACK, BACK BEHIND THE PORTICO? OKAY. BEHIND THE BUILDING.
IS THAT A DESIGNED TO BE A WRAP AROUND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING? OR JUST GET TO THAT TO THAT NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING? I THINK IT'S JUST TO GET TO THAT NORTHERN SIDE, BUT I'D LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THE DETAILS AS TO.
DOES THAT TRIGGER ANY ADDITIONAL SCREENING OR ANYTHING FOR THAT DRIVE? NO, HE THAT, COMBINED WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, REQUIRED THE PARKING LOT SCREENING.
OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT DID THAT GOOD.
WELL RIGHT. SO COME UP HERE AND JOIN US JUST SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
SO THE PARKING LOT CURRENTLY AT THE FRONT, THE FRONT ENTRY AREA AT THE NORTH SIDE OF IT, IT'S ALREADY CUT OUT BECAUSE THOSE PROPERTIES WERE ORIGINALLY BOUGHT TOGETHER TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, MORE BUILDINGS ESSENTIALLY FOR HARLEY.
SO WHAT OUR WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS WRAPPING THAT AROUND THROUGH THE NORTH SIDE, WHERE IT WOULD CONNECT TO THE BACK ON THIS NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S ALREADY A ROLL UP DOOR AND A MAN DOOR WITH A LARGE CONCRETE PAD THAT JUST GOES OUT INTO THAT FIELD.
YES, SIR. ON HARDSCAPE ALL THE WAY AROUND.
OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PLANTS, THE TREES, WHATNOT.
SO THOSE WERE BASED OFF OF WHAT'S IN BEDFORD COMMONS PUD.
HOWEVER, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, MY HEART'S NOT SET ON ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
THAT'D BE SUPER. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE ABOUT ON THAT.
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WRITING YOUR SUP, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS INSIDE BEDFORD COMMONS.ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? YES, SIR. PERFECT.
THANK YOU. I'M WELL VERSED IN IT.
NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT I DON'T WANT ANY SURPRISES FOR YOU.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT ALL THAT AND WORKING INTO WHATEVER HAPPENS NEXT.
AND I'VE MAINTAINED FROM THE GET GO THAT I WANT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT SOMETHING.
I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT.
I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY NICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO COME IN HERE AS A SLOUCH.
I WANT SOMETHING THAT BEDFORD CAN BE VERY PROUD OF AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
WE JUST HAD TO GET TO THE DETAILS, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS ON WHAT'S AHEAD OF US? I HAVE I CAN FIND THE PAGE LOOKING FOR THE PAGE THAT HAS THE CONDITIONS INSIDE THE SUP. I THINK IT'S AHEAD OF COMMISSIONER JACOBSON'S WONDERFUL AND ARTISTIC REPORT.
TWO CONDITIONS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
ONE, I WILL, I WILL SAY IS IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED ANYWAY.
BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH TWO CONDITIONS ONE TABLE 3.1 OF THE BEDFORD COMMONS PD APPLIES TO ANY CHANGES TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN BEDFORD COMMONS, BUT WE THOUGHT IT MAY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF EASE IF YOU JUST PUT THAT INTO YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN.
THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE BEDFORD COMMONS DOES NOT REALLY IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO TAKE USES THAT MAY HAVE COMPANY VEHICLES OR UTILITY TRAILERS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN SOME TYPE OF SCREENING REQUIREMENT THAT MR. MURRAY'S ALREADY AGREED TO.
ACTUALLY, HE WAS THE ONE THAT PROPOSED IT IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
BUT IT WAS THAT THE COMPANY VEHICLES BE LOCATED BEHIND A SCREENING WALL THAT IS MINIMUM SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND CONSTRUCTED TO SIMILAR MATERIAL AND COLOR AS THE PRIMARY BUILDING.
SO, ARE THESE THE ONLY? THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS UNLESS YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED.
AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH, THERE WAS COMMENT ABOUT THE SCREENING OF THE DUMPSTER AND ALSO PARKING OF SEMI TRUCK VEHICLES.
NON COMPANY SEMI TRUCK VEHICLES.
IT IS IN SOME OF THE OTHER AUTOMOTIVE STYLE USES WITHIN THE CODE AND ALSO WITHIN BEDFORD COMMONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME APPRECIATION OF THE FACT THAT NOT NO OVERNIGHT PARKING OF SEMI-TRAILER VEHICLES, SOME OF WHAT WE DEALT WITH POLY CODE AND SOME OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE CITY, EVEN OUTSIDE THE PUD, TO WHERE THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK OVERNIGHT.
AND AT THE DUMPSTER AREA IS SCREENED SOMEWHAT LIKE WE DO IN OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
IS THAT ALREADY IN THE COMMONS THING, OR DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN HERE? THE DUMPSTER SCREENING IS IN THE COMMONS, SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE REDUNDANT ONES.
THE WITH REGARD TO OVERNIGHT PARKING, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BEDFORD COMMONS.
I WOULD CAUTION THOUGH, BECAUSE WE COULD ONLY APPLY THAT TO THE PROPERTY.
AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO POLY COAT, WHICH MAKES ME THINK WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT APPLYING ON THE STREET THAT WAS ON THE STREET, AND I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT HERE SINCE IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.
IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. BUT WHAT IF IT WAS ON THE PROPERTY? I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A IF THERE'S A IF WE'RE DELIVERING A VEHICLE AND THE VEHICLE IS OFFLOADED PRIOR TO BEING WORKED ON, AND THE CAR HAULER THAT BROUGHT IT SPENDS THE NIGHT, CAN IT SPEND THE NIGHT ON THIS PROPERTY? I WOULD THINK WE COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION.
WE COULD. YEAH, THAT THAT COULD BE AN ADDED CONDITION IF YOU WANT TO WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT JUST AS A, JUST AS A PROTECTION FOR EVERYBODY, I KNOW THAT TAKE THE CAR AND PUT IT IN THE BUILDING AND LOCK IT UP AND PUT IT BEHIND THE WALL.
IT STIPULATES SEMI TRUCK PARKING.
OKAY, OKAY. AND THAT WAS IN THE LAND USE DEFINITION AS WELL.
IT WAS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT SPECIFICALLY TO ON THIS SITE THAT NO OVERNIGHT PARKING IS PERMITTED ONLY IN IT, IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL SUP.
IT'S IN SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
IT WAS IN THE LANGUAGE DEFINITION THAT WAS APPROVED AS WELL.
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BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.WE WE'RE BIG ON NOT BEING REDUNDANT AND ADDING EXTRA WORDS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, OKAY? BECAUSE WE'D SEEN IT A COUPLE TIMES.
SURE. PREVIOUS. OKAY. I WANT TO CLARIFY AS WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS STAGE.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO KNOW? NO, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE SUP REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONDITIONS? COMMISSIONER JACOBSEN.
IS THAT HOW WE MIGHT BEGIN OUR WE COULD WE COULD POTENTIALLY VOICE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP AND BEDFORD COMMONS WITH STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AND WOULD BE THERE.
DANIELLE. THIS IS ABOUT THE 3.1 BEDFORD COMMONS PD.
WILL THAT BE THE GRANDFATHERED RULE OR WILL IT ADJUST WHEN WE DO A NEW PLAN AND AN UPDATED DEVELOPMENT CODE? WELL, WHEN WE UPDATED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE WON'T NECESSARILY UPDATE BEDFORD COMMONS BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE THAN THE CITYWIDE DEVELOPMENT CODE. I IF WE WERE TO ADD THIS CONDITION AND THEN THE BEDFORD COMMENTS DO EVER CHANGE, WE WOULD ALWAYS REFER BACK TO THIS TABLE.
CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT BRYN? THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE IT'S THE SPECIFIC APPLIES OVER THE GENERAL.
SO, THIS IS A SPECIFIC CONDITION OF THIS USE.
AND SO THIS WILL THIS WOULD ALWAYS BE TIED TOGETHER.
SO, IF WE CHANGE TABLE 3-1 IN THE FUTURE IT DOES.
THIS ONE WOULD APPLY THE CURRENT CORRECT.
I GUESS I'M HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING IT BY REFERENCE.
RIGHT. ANY AMENDMENT TO 3.1 WILL APPLY TO THIS USE BY VIRTUE OF ITS.
AND IF 3.1 IS EVER AMENDED IN THE FUTURE, WOULD IT WOULD IT BE THE CURRENT OR AMENDED? IT WOULD BE THE AMENDED.
SO ON EACH DAY, WHATEVER IS IN 3.3-1 APPLIES TO THIS PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION RIGHT OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WES OKAY COMMISSIONERS.
ANY THOUGHTS? FURTHER DISCUSSION I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
JACOBSEN. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE SUP 24-10 MURRAY CUSTOM RODS, 1916 PARKWOOD.
REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE FROM PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BEDFORD COMMONS TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, BEDFORD COMMONS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO PERMIT AN AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING AND RESTORATION USE ON LOTS TWO AND THREE BLOCK ONE FIRST STATE BANK ADDITION AND IN ADDITION INCORPORATING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE AND TWO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I EXPLAIN MY NO VOTE, PLEASE? JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
AND ALL THAT TIME, I WAS NEVER THREATENED BY MY DECISIONS UP HERE UNTIL THIS SITUATION OCCURRED.
AND IN ADDITION, I'M LEAVING MY POSITION AT THE END OF MY TERM.
COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CANDID.
SO, WE HAVE VOTED TO APPROVE AND RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL.
ADDING AND APPROVING THIS SUP FOR MURRAY CUSTOM RODS, AS AMENDED, WITH THE CONDITIONS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, SIR.
WE WILL AWAIT COUNCIL'S VOTE ON THESE THREE ITEMS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, FOLKS, FOR COMING AND ATTENDING THIS EVENING.
IT DOES NOT CONTAIN A PUBLIC HEARING DESIGNATION WITHIN THAT.
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SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH THAT.YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, BUT WE'LL TAKE A SHORT A SHORT RECESS BEFORE WE START THAT PROCESS.
WE ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ARE ABLE TO RELEASE OUR CITY ATTORNEY FROM THE BALANCE OF THE MEETING AS WE DISCUSS A DOCUMENT THAT IS THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ACTION ITEM BEFORE US THIS EVENING.
YES, THEY GOT IN AFTER THE DATE OF THE RIGHT BECAUSE WE, AS ENRICO POSTED.
SO YES, THAT'S RIGHT, WE WERE EFFICIENT THIS TIME.
I THOUGHT I MISREAD MY CALENDAR WHEN HE PUT HIM OUT.
NEXT WEEK WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO READ EVERYTHING.
ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'VE HAD FOR ABOUT A MONTH NOW, A COPY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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I KNOW YOU'VE ALL READ IT.YOU'VE PROBABLY ALL GOT IT REDLINED AND MARKED, AND YOU'RE READY TO HAND IT BACK TO ME.
AND I CAN JUST HAND IT TO THE CONSULTANTS AND LET THEM GO.
RIGHT, SO WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I CAN HERE'S WHAT I CAN DO BECAUSE I CAN.
I HAVE A PRESENTATION, A FAIRLY LENGTHY PRESENTATION TO GO INTO.
I CAN RUN THROUGH A FEW THINGS.
I CAN STAND HERE AND RUN THROUGH THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT, PAGE BY PAGE, IF YOU WANT ME TO.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO TONIGHT? I HAVE TWO REQUESTS.
OKAY. ONE, START OFF SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CURRENT EVENTS SURROUNDING MEADOW PARK.
OKAY. SECONDLY, THEN DELINEATE FOR US WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE NEW PROPOSED PLAN AS OPPOSED TO OUR CURRENT ONE.
AND IF WE DO THOSE THINGS, THEN WE'VE GOT SOME NAME CHANGES.
WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS YOU KNOW, IN NEIGHBORHOODS SOME HIGHWAY CORRIDORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, IF YOU DO THE METAL PARK THING FIRST FOR US AND GET US UP TO SPEED ON THAT.
YES. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL.
OKAY, THAT'S THE JOINT MEETING ON THE ON THIS PLAN.
YES. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO PREPARE THE COUNCIL ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.
BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW ONE NEW COUNCILMAN PERSON.
I'M SORRY. I DOUBT THE REST OF THEM ARE READ ANY OF THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW UP TO DATE THEY ARE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH ALL THIS, SO I'M JUST WONDERING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN WITH THEM ASKING THE NITPICKING QUESTIONS WE'VE ALREADY ASKED, I GUESS. YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND, AND I WON AS BEST I CAN TELL, BASED ON CONVERSATIONS AND QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD FROM COUNCIL, I THINK THEY'RE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, COUNCIL REALLY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO LEAN ON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO DO THE DETAILED WORK TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS THE RIGHT DOCUMENT.
THAT BEING SAID, I STILL KNOW THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE LOOKING AT THINGS.
THEY'VE BEEN ASKING THE STATUS.
BUT I FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT WE WON'T BE GETTING INTO A LOT OF THOSE PAST ISSUES THAT MAYBE WE'VE ALREADY CLEARED UP AS FAR AS DENSITY QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW, I CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT.
BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THIS IS KIND OF IN THE SAME LINE AS THE CHAIRMAN.
I KNOW ANDREA HAS. I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS MET WITH EAST MEADOW PARK FOLKS.
ARE THEY UNIFIED OR DO WE HAVE OPINIONS GOING FROM A TO Z? I CAN'T SPEAK TO IF THE MEADOW PARK IS IF THE GROUP IS UNIFIED OR NOT.
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THAT'S I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS AND WHAT ZONING IS AND WHAT WE DO HERE AS A AS A BODY, AS WHAT STAFF DOES.AS TO I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION, IF I CAN BE HONEST, AS TO WHO EVEN OWNS THE PROPERTY.
POINT OF ORDER. JUST A REMINDER.
WE ARE STILL IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
SURE. JUST. NO, I DIDN'T MEAN FOR YOU TO.
BUT. YES. SO I THINK THERE IS SOME CONFUSION OUT THERE.
AND THEY THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD.
THEY SEEM TO UNDERSTAND OUR PROCESS.
THEY SEEM TO ASK VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
THEY STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
AND THOSE OF CONCERNS HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO AT LEAST I KNOW THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
SO I THINK THE WAY THE PROCESS IS WORKING IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE WORKING.
AND, AND PLANNING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
SO, I THINK AT LEAST THE TWO PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TALKED TO ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT AND ARE FOLLOWING THAT THE, THE ONE THING AND WE CAN JUST DIVE RIGHT INTO IT IF YOU WANT TO ON.
I'LL JUST SKIP THROUGH ALL THIS.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT MEADOW PARK SPECIFICALLY.
MEADOW PARK IS THE BIG GREEN SQUARE THAT'S IN THE IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN THERE CIRCLED IN RED.
AND WHAT WHEN HALLS HILL STARTED IN THE VERY BEGINNING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TESTED WERE DOING IS TALKING TO ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS THAT'S BUSINESS OWNERS, INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, CHAMBER, SCHOOL DISTRICT AND NOT ONLY DID THEY TALK ABOUT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS PROPERTY, THEY TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PLANS FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND, AND THINGS THAT THEY SAW ON THE HORIZON.
OF COURSE, THIS WAS A MAJOR POINT OF CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THE PROPERTY.
AND THEIR QUESTION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS, HOW DO YOU ENVISION THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPING? AND SO WHAT THEY WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH IS AND THEY SUMMARIZED IT ESSENTIALLY, I'M GOING TO GO TO IT REAL QUICK HERE. IS THIS LIFESTYLE RESIDENTIAL? I CALL IT A FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
SOME MAY CALL IT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE, THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE ON THIS PROPERTY AND IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE A, A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES THAT WOULD SERVE ALL OF THEIR, THEIR EMPLOYEES FROM THE ENTRY LEVEL EMPLOYEES TO THE PARAPROFESSIONALS TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. AND SO THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS TO THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS THERE'S SOME LOW PLACES.
THERE ARE SOME THERE'S SOME VERY NICE TREES IN SOME AREAS.
SO, THEY TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE MAYBE SOME TYPE OF AREA THAT THEY COULD RETAIN, RETAIN AS A LEARNING CENTER, WHETHER THAT'S A BOTANICAL GARDEN, WHETHER THAT'S A NATURE CENTER, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
SO THEY TALKED ABOUT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT USES AND HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK.
SO, WHAT HALLS HILL DID IS THEY TOOK THOSE DESIRED LAND USE PATTERNS OR USES, AND THEN THEY COMBINED THEM WITH WHAT THEY HAD HEARD CITIZENS OF BEDFORD SAY THEY WANTED, WHICH IS A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THEY WANTED PARKS, PLAZAS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, OPEN SPACE, AREAS.SO THAT'S HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT DESCRIPTION THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
IS THAT NOW, I WILL SAY, AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO TAKE OUT THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE TALK ABOUT LIVE WORK, HOUSING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT LIVE WORK HOUSING IS, THAT'S TYPICALLY YOU HAVE A IT COULD BE A IT'S A MULTI-STORY BUILDING.
TYPICALLY THERE'S SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS ON THE BASEMENT OR ON THE BASE FLOOR.
AND THEN AS IT GOES UP OR MAYBE AS IT GOES BACK, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MULTI-STORY, BUT AS IT GOES BACK, YOU'VE GOT A PLACE FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER OR THE AN EMPLOYEE TO LIVE THERE THAT CAN MAN THAT AND GO BACK AND FORTH.
THAT GIVES PEOPLE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT A USE THAT WE WANT TO PUT THERE.
CAN I ASK YOU REAL QUICK WHAT PLEASE, CONCERNS ON THAT, EXACTLY? I THINK THE CONCERNS ARE FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT.
I THINK THE CONCERNS ARE FROM A THEY DON'T WANT AND I'M SUMMARIZING.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTHS.
BUT LIVE WORK IS USUALLY SEEN IN A MORE URBAN SETTING, AND THEY'RE NOT WANTING THAT URBAN SETTING STYLE ENVIRONMENT IN, IN THIS, IN THIS AREA, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
I MEAN I AGAIN AND I'M MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON THAT.
DOES IT ALSO INCLUDE I'LL CALL IT A GRANNY SWEET OR GRANDPA? NO. THAT BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I SEE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN MY VIEW FOR A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THE LAND, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP.
THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS HAD INPUT.
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE NEW URBANISM OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS HOME DOWN TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
NOT EXACTLY, BUT IT HAS A SIMILAR TO A POINT, I DON'T KNOW, IN A SMALLER AREA.
YES. YEAH. BUT I SO LET ME STEP BACK.
FIRST QUESTION. GRANNY FLATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IN OUR ORDINANCES AT SOME POINT.
NOW, LET ME I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF ON A TANGENT, BUT LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, AND I THINK YOU ALL UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE LAND USE CATEGORIES BROAD LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN HERE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY ALLOWED.
WE ALL KNOW THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE AFTER THIS DOCUMENT IS APPROVED, THE NEXT STEP IS TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE REGULATIONS THAT THAT ARE GOING TO ALLOW WHATEVER WE DECIDE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE.
SO NOW THAT I'VE SAID THAT, I SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT REGULATIONS.
AND ONE OF THE PROBABLY THE FIRST REGULATIONS WE LOOK AT ARE HOW DO WE HANDLE ACCESSORY DWELLING STRUCTURES? BECAUSE OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IS NOT REALISTIC IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.
ACCESSORY DWELLING STRUCTURES ARE WE'RE GETTING CALLS ON A DAILY BASIS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE THEIR PARENTS IN OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A CITY STANDPOINT CITYWIDE.
NOW I HOW WE DO THAT, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS WE CAN DO THAT.
OR WE CAN SAY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE.
AND HERE THE HERE'S KIND OF A THRESHOLD OR HERE'S THE RULES ON THOSE.
AND MAYBE IT'S IF IT'S A AND I'M GOING TO THROW SOMETHING OUT.
BUT THOSE ARE DETAILS THAT WE'LL GET INTO ONCE WE START TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
ALL THIS IS WOULD THAT ALSO ENCAPSULATE THE TINY HOME? IT COULD.
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IT'S JUST SAYING THAT YOU CAN ALLOW A MIXTURE BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, ZONING HAS SEPARATED AND COMPARTMENTALIZED EVERYTHING OUT.RIGHT NOW, TODAY WE HAVE 6000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, 7000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
HISTORICALLY, WE COMPARTMENTALIZE.
LAND USE IS STARTING TO BROADEN OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN HAVE 6000 5000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS NEXT DOOR TO A 10,000 OR A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THOSE DEVELOPMENT SYNERGY PLACE ON IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL COMPATIBLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE ZONING IS GETTING INTO PLAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT THEN.
WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IN.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE THAT WAY.
IT'S JUST SAYING IT COULD BE YES, SIR.
DO WE HAVE TO PUT A DENSITY RESTRICTION RIGHT? MY FEAR WITH NOT PUTTING A DENSITY RESTRICTION IN THERE.
IS THAT YOU? YOU'VE NOT GIVEN YOURSELF ANYTHING.
YOU'VE NOT GIVEN YOURSELF OR A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER.
ANY GUIDANCE NOW, DO I THINK IF I CAN JUMP AHEAD REAL QUICK, DO I THINK 10 TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE IS TOO MUCH? PROBABLY. WE COULD RATCHET THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK BACK TO SOME OF THE, THE MORE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE DONE WITH TOWNHOMES.
BECAUSE I WOULD, I, I THINK REALISTICALLY IF THE PROPERTY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP TODAY, WHICH WE KNOW IT'S NOT, BUT IF IT WERE TO DEVELOP TODAY, THIS WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOME PROPERTIES, PROBABLY TOWNHOMES PRIMARILY, PROBABLY BEING ALONG THE HARWOOD, THE BUSIER STREET.
BUT LOOK AT SOME OF THE DENSITIES WE'VE APPROVED AND TOWNHOMES RECENTLY.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ANYTHING OVER TEN UNITS PER ACRE HERE RECENTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
I WAS THINKING THE WORST CASE WHEN THIS WOULD BE UP TO 16 UNITS AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT STARTS TO BE A MULTIFAMILY THING.
I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE WE DID WAS 14 WHEN WE WENT THROUGH AND CHANGED.
WE KNOW WHAT WE DID ON MULTIFAMILY.
THAT WAS IN A DIFFERENT ZONE. OH, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. THE TWO THINGS ON HEIGHTS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOWNHOMES A LOT OF TOWNHOMES.
NOW YOU'RE BUILDING THREE STORY.
SO I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY RIGHT NOW, MOST CASES, ALMOST ALL CASES 35FT IS OUR MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT.
AND THAT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING.
SO THAT'S REALLY NOT A CHANGE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
BUT AGAIN WHAT THIS IS THIS IS JUST SUPPOSED TO PAINT A PICTURE AS TO WHAT COULD GO HERE.
AND, AND WE'RE SAYING 1 TO 3 STORY STRUCTURES, A MIXTURE OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE, THE, THE SITE AND THEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS 10 TO 20.
YOU'RE CLEARLY I DON'T THINK THE CITY WANTS TO SEE ANY MORE TRUE MULTIFAMILY HERE.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO GET TO THE 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
I THINK YOU'RE BETTER AT MAYBE EVEN THAN WE NEED TO FIX THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST YOURS.
BUT WE I THINK YOU COULD EVEN DO 15, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A 8 TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE, I THINK WOULD BE FAIR ON THIS PROPERTY.
WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE NOW, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A JOINT MEETING WITH COUNCIL AND PROBABLY I'M ASSUMING IT WILL BE BACK WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US THAT THEY WERE ADAMANTLY AGAINST.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN YOU LEFT, RATHER THAN US SAYING, OH YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND THEN WE COME BACK X NUMBER OF WEEKS AND THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANT TO HEAD.
I MEAN, WAS THERE ANYTHING LIKE I SAID YOU HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM.
YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT INTO IT'S NOT LIKE WE NEGOTIATED, YOU KNOW.
WELL WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE AND WHAT WOULD YOU.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO DEVELOP.
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ARE THEY THRILLED ABOUT IT? NO. THEY'D LOVE TO SEE IT BE A NATURE CENTER.WHO WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW. RIGHT.
AND I WOULDN'T BLAME THEM FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT IS ONE POINT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CERTAINLY ADDRESS, AS YOU ALREADY HAVE.
YEAH. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD THEY HAD TOLD A STORY ABOUT SOMEPLACE IN UTAH, I BELIEVE, THAT HAD ALMOST DEED RESTRICTED THE I BELIEVE IT WAS DEED RESTRICTED.
MAYBE IT WASN'T, BUT THEY HAD REALLY RESTRICTED THE RENTAL CAPACITY.
BUT THAT WAS DONE ON A DEVELOPER SIDE, SKI RESORTS.
AND THE REASON THAT THEY NEEDED THESE TYPES OF ZONING REQUIREMENTS IN THE SKI COUNTRY IS BASICALLY ALL THE HELP, THE MAIDS, THE BUTLERS, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK COULD NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE IN SKI COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, WHETHER THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE SCHOOL IS THE SCHOOL BOARD IS AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT THAT CONCEPT.
YEAH. I YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE CAN'T REGULATE RENTAL PROPERTY VERSUS IT'S A LAND USE.
SO, IF IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE, IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
WE DON'T REGULATE WHETHER IT'S HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED OR RENTAL OCCUPIED.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN REGULATE THAT, BUT WE CAN'T PROHIBIT IT.
TYPE DEAL. NOW, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE DEVELOPER OR WHOEVER DECIDES TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WANTS TO ADD THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS IN, THAT'S ON THEM, THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE.
SO WHAT YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED THE CONFUSION PART, THE BIGGEST THING THAT SPOOKED A LOT OF THEM IN THE BEGINNING, AND THEY EVEN THINK NOW IS THE THREE-STORY DESIGNATION IN THIS.
AND THEY ENVISIONED APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING IT IN DISCUSSION CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THEM, EXPLAINING THAT ALL THROUGH THE CITY WE HAVE A 35 FOOT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, AND YOU COULD BUILD THREE AND 35FT.
SO, THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HEIGHT OF A THREE STORY BUILDING REALLY WAS.
THEY JUST SAW THREE STORY AND IMMEDIATELY WENT TO APARTMENT MODE.
AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY CONSISTENT, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR FLAGS SITTING ADJACENT TO THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT BUT STILL 35 FOOT, WHICH THEY WEREN'T CORRELATING THOSE TWO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME HOUSES IN LOTS OF PLACES IN THIS CITY THAT ARE TWO STORY HOUSES, BUT THEY ARE BIG, TALL LITTLE RASCALS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY TALL.
SO, WE MIGHT WANT TO DROP OUT ANY DESIGNATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF STORIES IN THERE AND THEN DROP THE DROP THE DENSITY DOWN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN 16 UNITS PER ACRE IN THIS DOCUMENT TO KIND OF TIGHTEN IT UP, OR MAYBE 14, BECAUSE THIS IS DESIGNED TO BE MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN THAT INCORPORATES, YOU KNOW, THE LIKE THE TOWNHOMES WE JUST PUT ON BEDFORD ROAD.
WHAT'S GOING IN OVER IN CAMPUS WEST, WHAT'S GOING OUT ON HARWOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 121? IT STARTS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BUT 20 IS WAY OUT OF LINE IN MY MIND.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS ANY CONCERNS WITH YOU KNOW, A, WELL, AMENITIZED WITH STRATEGICALLY PLACED GREEN SPACES, FACILITIES FOR POSSIBLE MAJOR COMMUNITY AMENITIES SUCH AS AMPHITHEATER OR BOTANICAL GARDEN THAT GOES INTO KIND OF WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS LOOKING FOR. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S VOICED ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE TWO BULLETS OR THAT BULLET OR THE BULLET ABOUT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
I DO THINK WE CAN KIND OF TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN THE FIRST BULLET THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN LEAVE IN A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES AND PROBABLY SINGLE FAMILY
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DETACHED, ATTACHED.I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT LIVE WORK UNITS.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY HAD THAT CONVERSATION HERE.
BUT WE COULD TAKE OUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S AN ORDINANCE WE'LL ADDRESS LATER ON A LIVE WORK THING. LET'S SAY THAT AS THIS GETS DEVELOPED ALONG, HARWOOD DESIGN DETERMINES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL STRIP ACROSS HARWOOD HERE.
AGAIN, BECAUSE CAMPUS WEST IS ONE OF THE NEWER THINGS.
THERE'S A LITTLE STRIP. SO IN THAT IF THAT BECAME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SOMEBODY COULD LIVE UPSTAIRS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A RESTRICTION FROM THAT, RIGHT? WELL, RIGHT NOW BASED IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE ZONING ALLOWED.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE HARD THING, JUST BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUT LIVE WORK UNITS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE COULDN'T WRITE THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO STILL ALLOW IT. IT JUST MEANS IT GIVES IT A GUIDING.
THIS IS IN THIS 30,000 FOOT VIEW.
WE OUGHT TO NOT PUT IT IN THERE.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, WES WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENT SITUATION FOR BEDFORD COMMONS AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GOING TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED ABOVE AND RETAIL BELOW AND THE DEVELOPER, REALTY CAPITAL, CAME IN AND SAID THAT CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK, OKAY.
AND IF YOU WATCHED HOMETOWN AS YOU COME OUT TOWARDS 26 I BELIEVE THEY'RE APARTMENTS AND RETAIL.
AND I THINK THE APARTMENTS GOT FILLED.
I THINK THE RETAIL IS ALL YOU SAW WERE BLINDS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYBODY IN THERE.
AND MAYBE THIS WOULD ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS AS WELL.
BUT IF WE WANTED TO ADD IN, YOU KNOW, RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES AND MAYBE EVEN ADD ANOTHER BULLET THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT, MAYBE THERE IS A COMMERCIAL FEEL OR AN ALLOWANCE OF SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL ALONG HARWOOD BEING THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT BECAUSE THE GOAL BEHIND THIS IS THE DEVELOPER READS THIS AND SAYS, WELL, WHAT DOES THE CITY WANT HERE? AND I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THE I'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED AND I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE IT CAME FROM.
BUT THE TOWNHOMES WOULD THE HIGHER DENSITY USES WOULD ALWAYS BE.
AND THIS IS THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN THAT AGAIN, AND I KNOW I TOLD YOU ALL THIS IN MY EMAIL LAST NIGHT TO YOU, BUT THESE ARE JUST IDEAS TO LET YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORDING SAYS. THIS IS THIS THE PROPERTY.
WILL THE ODDS OF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPING LIKE THIS ARE SLIM? IT'S JUST AN IDEA.
IT KIND OF GIVES YOU WHAT COULD WORK.
BUT I ALWAYS ENVISIONED THE HIGHER DENSITY BEING ALONG HARWOOD.
ANYWAY, SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT FOCUSING HIGHER DENSITIES ALONG HARWOOD AND POSSIBLE LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF LEAVING IN THE LIVE WORK HOUSING.
AND ALSO THE THING THAT I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF LIKE LIVE, WORK HOUSING MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE GREATEST EXAMPLE, BUT I'M LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A DOGGY BOARDING PLACE, LIKE, IT'S SO MUCH NICER TO KNOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE THERE OVERNIGHT AND IF THEIR HOUSE IS ABOVE IT, THAT'S SO MUCH SAFER.
AND I LIKE IT. AND TO ME, THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, TO YOUR POINT, IF WE CAN JUST ADDRESS THEM SPECIFICALLY, LIKE LATER ON FOR REGULATIONS, I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF BABY BOOMERS AND SILENT GENERATION WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IN WITH THEIR KIDS AND TRYING TO STICK WITH THE VALUES THAT WE'VE PUT IN BEDFORD IS LIKE BEING A PLACE FOR ALL GENERATIONS.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, LIKE WE HAD A I THINK PLANO OR FRISCO HAD THE ISSUE WHERE THEY WERE PAYING SOMEONE A JAMBA JUICE A FEW YEARS AGO, LIKE $25 AN HOUR, AND THEY COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO COME BECAUSE NOBODY COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
NO ONE'S GOING TO DRIVE THERE.
SO I THINK THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
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LIVE WORK COMMERCIAL ASPECTS AND THE HIGHER DENSITIES, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY SAY IN THERE ALONG THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE ALONG HARWOOD AND BEING NORMALLY WE TRY NOT TO BE THAT SPECIFIC, BUT MAYBE IN THIS CASE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, WE COULD BE AND IT STILL GETS IT'S KIND OF A COMPROMISE FOR EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK AND MR. JACOBSEN TELL ME IF YOU IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG BECAUSE YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS WITH THE WITH THE GROUP.I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY HAD A MAJOR CONCERN.
WHAT HAPPENED TO LONG HARWOOD? I MEAN, THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THEY WERE MAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEY DIDN'T THIS DIDN'T SPECIFY WHERE SOME OF THOSE HIGHER DENSITIES WOULD GO AND THEY DIDN'T WANT IT IN THEIR BACKYARD.
AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY THAT DESPITE WE CAN DO ALL THE, WORDSMITHING THAT I THINK IS GOOD THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, BUT IN THE END, I THINK IT ALSO HAS TO BE CONVEYED THAT MAYOR COGAN SAID IN THE LAST MORNINGS WITH THE MAYOR IS THIS IS A NEGOTIATION.
IN THE END, IT WILL BE A NEGOTIATION.
AND SO WE IF WE GET SO FOCUSED ON ALL THESE BULLETS AND LANGUAGE, AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES A NEGOTIATION, AND EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
MOST DEFINITELY. I THINK THAT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN.
AND I LOOK AT THIS AND THINK, THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN PLANO, MCKINNEY, ANY OTHER CITY.
AND I'M LIKE, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? I GET THAT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY BACKYARD.
AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY BACKYARD.
SO IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE YOU KNOW.
THAT'S OKAY. MY QUESTION IS THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG GLADE ROAD? YOU KNOW, THE GLADE PARKS? DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING OF THAT WORK LIFE HOUSING THAT WE COULD? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN LOOK, I DON'T I THOUGHT AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT I, I WOULD THINK NO, I THINK IT WAS MAINLY MOST RETAIL RESTAURANT TYPE USES.
AND YOU MAY BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT THAN JASON, FOR THAT IS THE TRADITIONAL RIGHT OF ANY RIGHT.
THEY ALSO DID THAT WES IN ARLINGTON, CATTY CORNER FROM THE LEVITT.
AND I SAID, DON'T GIVE ME YOUR CHAMBER ANSWER.
AND SHE SAID, IT'S NOT WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTED.
THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY IS DIFFERENT, THOUGH, RIGHT? YOU'RE DESCRIBING AS THE OWNER IS DOWNSTAIRS.
YEAH, BUT I THINK OF I'LL USE LET'S USE A RECENT EXAMPLE YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE GUNSMITHING OR THE, THE GUN SHOP.
I COULD SEE THAT AS A USE WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT A SINGLE GUY OR LADY THAT WORKS ON GUNS, MAYBE THE FRONT OF THEIRS IS THEIR STORE SHOP, AND THEY'RE WHERE THEY DO THEIR WORK, AND THEY DON'T NEED A BIG HOUSE.
THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T HAVE A FAMILY.
WHATEVER THE REASON, THEY JUST WANT A LITTLE APARTMENT IN THE BACK.
THAT'S THE WAY I SEE SOME OF THAT.
IT'S IT CAN BE SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE.
IT COULD BE I, I DON'T KNOW IT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC.
USUALLY LIVE WORK UNITS DON'T.
SOMETIMES THEY DO, BUT VERY RARELY DO THEY.
BUT YEAH, IT'S I THINK WE CAN I THINK WE CAN WORDSMITH THAT TO CREATE A SECOND BULLET, TO STILL KEEP THAT IN THERE, BUT TO SHOW WHERE IT WOULD BE FOCUSED AT AND NOT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BACK TYPE DEAL, WHICH I THINK ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS.
IS THIS ALSO IN THE STONE GATE? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER LOGICAL AREA WHERE SOMEONE MAY WANT TO DO THAT.
LET'S. SO STONE GATE IS IN A VILLAGE CENTER.
YEAH. YOU WANT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE WAY PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK, RIGHT? AND VILLAGE CENTER ALSO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND I CAN'T READ THE SCREEN, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT MY BOOK.
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YEAH, WE TALK ABOUT JUST A MIXTURE AGAIN.PLACES WHERE YOU CAN WORK, LIVE.
SO, BUT IT'S FUNNY THAT IN VILLAGE CENTER AND, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY.
THE DENSITY RANGES THAT WE PUT IN VILLAGE CENTER ARE 4 TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO IF WE WANTED TO TRY TO BE CONSISTENT, THEN MAYBE IT'S A 4 TO 10 UNITS.
YEAH. THE, THE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND THIS IS AN OVERREACHING, YOU KNOW, YOU KEEP TELLING US THIS IS A 20,000 FOOT VIEW.
YOU KNOW, MAKE IT SIMPLE, MAKE IT PUT THINGS.
THAT'S CONFUSING, BUT ALSO MAKE IT CONSISTENT AS AN OVERVIEW, BECAUSE NOW THAT ALLOWS GUIDANCE ACROSS THE CITY ON SOME OF THESE KEY ISSUES LIKE DENSITY THAT CAN MAKE A CASE FOR THIS IS WHY THEY'RE HERE.
AND THEN IN THOSE ZONES THAT ALLOW HIGHER DENSITIES IN CORE USES, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES.
SO ANYWHERE IN HERE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHAT I'M THINKING, I'M HEARING FROM EVERYBODY IS TO USE THE WORD THOROUGHFARE, LIKE ON MEADOW PARK FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL IN ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE.
USE THE WORD THOROUGHFARE SO THAT WE'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT NAMING ANY ONE SPECIFIC STREET AND THEN HAVE DENSITIES, BE CONSISTENT AND CONSISTENT ZONES AND HIRE WHERE NECESSARY.
BECAUSE DENSITY IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE FLASH POINT FOR MOST PEOPLE.
AND IT'S ALSO THE THING THAT'S HARDEST TO REGULATE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN YOUR PLAN, YOU CAN REGULATE.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REGULATE A LOT OF THINGS ON A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, EVEN BY, YOU KNOW, BY PLAT BY SITE PLAN. BUT WE CAN'T GET AROUND THE DENSITY THING IF IT'S IN THE PLAN.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPARE BASICALLY THESE DIFFERENT ONES FOR DENSITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN AS FOCUSED ON AS WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, I WANT TO I WANT TO JUMP BACK HERE TO THE SUBURBAN AND MULTIFAMILY AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY OUR MULTIFAMILY LAND USES.
AND TO YOUR POINT, IF YOU ALL RECALL IN, IN SUBURBAN, WE PUT THOSE DENSITIES RANGES FROM 18 TO 36.
WELL, WE DID THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEIR CURRENT DENSITIES ARE BUILT OUT AT.
BUT THE FUTURE DOWN AT A SMALLER DENSITY, WE IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THAT LAST BULLET WE ADDED WE WANTED TO LEAVE THAT CURRENT DENSITY IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
AND THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED AT THAT.
SO, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN THEY COULD STILL BUILD AT THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE IT VISITED.
WE DID THOSE HIGHER DENSITY THINGS.
YEAH. AND I MADE A NOTE TO MODEL THE DENSITY OF LIFESTYLE RESIDENTIAL AFTER THE VILLAGE CENTER.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE CAN HELP COUNCIL THE MOST.
BY. AND ROGER, TELL ME IF YOUR VIEW IS DIFFERENT BY REALLY DEALING WITH THE DENSITY ISSUE EVEN MORE SO THAN THE USES FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT REALLY PUTS A CAP ON SOME THINGS THAT I'D SAY WOULD BE A FLASHPOINT IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT IF WE HAD A CASE COME BEFORE US THAT WANTED A HIGHER DENSITY, IF WE HADN'T PUT A CAP ON IT HERE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SAY NO.
I KNOW, I THINK YOU COULD SAY NO.
BUT ALSO I THINK AND I THINK WE DID IT IN ACTIVITY CENTER.
WE TRIED TO GIVE IT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T WE DON'T WANT TO BOX ANYBODY INTO ANYTHING.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORDING WE USED IN THE ACTIVITIES TO LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM BULLET THERE, IF YOU CAN READ IT TYPICALLY 2 TO 4 STORIES IN AN URBAN PATTERN.
AGAIN, ACTIVITY CENTER, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS REALLY BEDFORD COMMONS.
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WHERE THERE'S EXCEPTIONAL ADHERENCE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.SO IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING CRAZY SPECIAL THAT WE REALLY LOVE, BUT THEY NEED TO GO UP TO.
30 OR THEY NEED TO GO UP TO 28 OR THEY NEED TO GO UP SOME.
AND BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF THEY COME IN AND IT'S NOT THAT SPECIAL OF A PLAN AND YOU DON'T REALLY CARE FOR IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM 24 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU EIGHT.
AND I THINK YOU'RE JUSTIFIED IN THAT.
LET ME LET ME RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK.
DOES THAT COVER WE JUMPED ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT DOES THAT PRETTY MUCH COVER OUR CONCERNS OR ANY CONCERNS FOR MEADOW PARK, FOR LIFESTYLE RESIDENTIAL? I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED FOR YOU TO SAY THAT HAZEL HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THAT THAT I DON'T SEE THAT ON NEXTDOOR.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO SELL IT, MAKE EVERYTHING.
HAVE THEY COMMUNICATED THAT TO THOSE RESIDENTS ALSO, HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WE HAVE AS A CITY? BUT DO WE KNOW IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE FOLKS? I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THE LAST MEETING THAT I PERSONALLY HAD WITH THE WITH THE FOLKS OF MENLO PARK THEY WERE ENCOURAGED TO GO SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THINK AT THAT TIME THEY HAD NOT THEY HAD NOT, BUT THEIR PLAN WAS OKAY.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I WAS I RECEIVED A STATEMENT TODAY THAT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SAID THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAVE THEY'VE NOT AUTHORIZED THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THE CONCERN.
WE TO ALLEVIATE THE RUMBLINGS THAT WERE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WENT OUT AND MADE A POST ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE DOG PARK, WITH THE BALL FIELDS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
I THINK THAT STARTED SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CHATTER.
AND THEN I THINK IF ANYTHING, I THINK IT WAS GOOD THAT PEOPLE STARTED LOOKING AND THEY STARTED READING THE DRAFTS THAT ARE ON OUR WEBSITE OF THIS PLAN. AND THEY STARTED SEEING THIS, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS ZONING, WHAT IS LAND USE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND REALLY, WHEN IT GETS TO A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, ALL THE HEB BOARD IS GOING TO VOTE ON IS DO WE AGREE WITH THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S OH YEAH.
YEAH. BUT THERE'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A FIRE SALE.
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR TIME TO.
YEAH, ALL DEPENDS ON THEIR FUNDING AVAILABLE.
YEAH. GOD FORBID SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENS.
THEY [INAUDIBLE] SO THANK YOU.
I THINK WE WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
LET ME LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH IF YOU WANT TO BEAR WITH ME REAL QUICK.
OH. LET ME TOUCH ON THE VISION.
IF HOPEFULLY THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ALL WROTE IT.
SO IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS.
WE'RE STILL GOOD WITH THAT. WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR DOING THAT.
LET ME RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK.
GUIDING PRINCIPLES HAVE NOT CHANGED.
MAP IS RELATIVELY THE SAME, MINUS SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE CHANGED DURING OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS.
SO TWO AREAS THAT WE HAVE VILLAGE CENTER IN, YOU SEE THEM ON THE RED CIRCLES ON THE SCREEN ONE OF THOSE ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR FAR EAST SIDE OF THE CITY IS WHAT WE KNOW AS CAMPUS WEST.
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THAT ALREADY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE HOPE TO BE OUR FUTURE APPROVED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.STONEGATE IS OUR SECOND VILLAGE CENTER.
STONEGATE. WHAT THIS DID IS THIS LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.
I'M. I'M COMPLETELY OUT OF SORTS, SO I APOLOGIZE.
STONE GATE IS ONE OF THE DISTRICTS, SPECIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMP PLAN.
WE'VE GOT A GOOD PROPERTY OWNER HERE NOW.
THEY ARE THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO REDEVELOP THE SITE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUST ABOUT ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE LISTED ON THE ON THE SCHEMATIC PLAN, WHILE THEY ARE NOWHERE, THE THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAN AT THIS POINT DOES NOT MATCH THIS AT ALL.
SO THAT WAS ENCOURAGING TO ME.
SO, WHEN YOU ALL SEE THAT SITE PLAN COME THROUGH, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND ONE OF THESE DAYS, THEIR OUTDOOR TERRACE AND SEATING ARRANGEMENT THAT WE APPROVED WILL FINALLY GET BUILT.
YES. MEADOWS IS THE OTHER DISTRICT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT ENOUGH.
THIS WAS JUST A SCHEMATIC THAT THEY BROUGHT UP, CAME UP WITH ON THE CITY SIDE.
THIS IS SHOWS WHERE OBS IS THE LIBRARY AND HOW ALL THOSE AREAS CAN INTERFACE.
THE GOAL BEHIND THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT IS TO SHOW YOU WHAT COULD BE AND, AND TO TO GIVE YOU A TOOL AS APPLICANTS COME IN AND TO WANT TO REZONE OR WANT AN SUP FOR A SPLATTER AND PAINT AND SMASH PLACE, IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHERE DID WE WANT TO PUT THOSE? DOES THAT HELP? I FEEL LIKE I'M KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH SOME THINGS HERE.
THIS IS JUST A REAL QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND OPEN SPACE CHAPTER THAT'S IN THERE.
DOES IT ADDRESS THAT AS A HOW DOES IT ADDRESS THAT USE WHEN IT COMES TO ENVIRONMENT, OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THERE.
THE MAP DOES NOT IDENTIFY THAT PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR.
WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT AS A POTENTIAL NEW PARK SPACE.
SO BUT THAT THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS IN THE DISCUSSIONS OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS DECISION-MAKING PROCESS FOR STATION ONE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, WETLAND USAGE, WHY CERTAIN THINGS CAN'T BE BUILT THERE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, VEGETATION AND DRAINAGE AND TERRAIN AND ALL THAT.
DOES THAT LEAD TO US IF WE'RE DOING A FUTURE USE PLAN TO DESIGNATE THAT DIFFERENTLY? OR IS THAT A LITTLE TOO MUCH DETAIL? THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT IT COULD I DO THINK WE COULD ADD A, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SECOND LITTLE DIAGRAM THERE WITH THE UNDER EXISTING PARKS AND THEN POTENTIAL NEW PARK SPACE.
I THINK WE COULD ADD THAT THERE.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LOCKING US INTO ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST A POTENTIAL AND IT IS A POTENTIAL.
SO I'LL, I'LL ADD THAT TO MY LIST.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED TRAILS?
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BECAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.WE'VE SAID, OH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN ALL THESE TRAILS SO PEOPLE CAN GET EVERYWHERE.
BUT I'M NOT. I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS PIECE UNLESS IT'S THIS PLAN WOULD NOT SHOW THAT.
HOWEVER, ISN'T IT THE OVERLAY FROM THE PARKS? PARKS MASTER PLAN.
THIS ONE DOESN'T SHOW IT, BUT I BELIEVE I HAVE.
YEAH, THIS ONE SHOWS HIKING, BIKE AND POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
TO. YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
I THINK PROBABLY THE I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A PARKS MASTER PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL IT GOES INTO TRAILS AND ABOUT FUTURE TRAILS, BUT THE IDEA IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE SOME, SOME SNAPSHOTS OF OVERVIEW, AND THEN YOU'LL GO IN AND DO A DETAILED IF, WHEN IT'S TIME TO DO THAT DETAILED REVIEW OF THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN AND TRAIL PLAN.
THAT'LL BE THOSE DETAILS THEN AND THEN ON THE PARK'S LOCATION.
DOES THIS PROPOSED LOCATIONS FOR PARKS MEET THE PLAN TO TRY TO DO LIKE, A PARK WITHIN EVERY TEN MINUTES OR SOMETHING OF EVERY RESIDENCE. SO THIS JUST SHOWS EXISTING POTENTIAL AND THEN POTENTIAL LAWNS.
I THINK THAT PARK PLAN IS MORE OF A CITY PARK.
THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN CITY PARKS.
SO THIS COULD BE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, REMEMBER ON CAMPUS WEST, WE HAD THEM DO THAT PLAZA AREA THAT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE PLACES COULD QUALIFY FOR THAT, WHICH I DON'T THINK WOULD QUALIFY FOR WHAT, THE PARK EVERY TEN MINUTES OR SO.
ALL I CAN SAY IS DRIVING THROUGH BEDFORD IS SUCH AN EASE TO.
183 121 YOU JUST GET EVERYWHERE AND SUCH.
AND I THINK WE CAN I THINK THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE FOUND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THAT WE DO HAVE A GOOD ROADWAY NETWORK SYSTEM AND FOR CARS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT FOR TRAILS, BIKES AND, AND OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
OH YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SELLING POINT BECAUSE I'M SURE.
THE LAST PART AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL.
I WASN'T GOING TO BOG YOU ALL DOWN WITH THOSE AGAIN, BUT THE POLICIES AND ACTIONS, THEY'RE ALL BASED ON THESE 12 STRATEGIES THAT THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I, WE CAN GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU WANT TO.
WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO.
WELL, LOOK, PROOF POINT FOR THAT BEING IN THE NEW MASTER PLAN THAT WILL HELP US WORK ON SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND PLANTS AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, IT GIVES US GUIDANCE ON WHEN WE START DOING THAT, WHAT IT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT LANDSCAPING AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ALL THE WORDING YOU WANT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT AS WE'RE CREATING THOSE ORDINANCES AND THAT'S ON PAGE 83 OF THE PLAN, IT GIVES YOU ESSENTIALLY REALLY IT'S 83, 84, 85. YEAH.
THOSE THREE PAGES LIST OUT THE ORDINANCES THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.
AND AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE THAT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT'S STAFF'S WORKING PLAN.
AND HOW WE'LL USE THIS DOCUMENT, IS THAT AT THE BEGINNING OR AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR, HOWEVER WE DO IT WE'LL GIVE P AND Z AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED THE YEAR BEFORE.
AND THEN WHAT OUR GOAL IS TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE YEAR OF THAT WAY.
WE ALL KNOW KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING, WHAT WE'RE MARCHING TOWARD.
SO IS IT NECESSARY IN THIS MASTER PLAN THAT IT ADDRESSES ANYTHING ABOUT CITY ENTRANCES? AND THAT WAS ALL JUST PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TUESDAY NIGHT.
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ENTRYWAYS. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THOSE DETAILS THAT WERE APPROVED THE OTHER NIGHT.SO WE'VE ALREADY IN SOME CASES, I'LL BE ABLE TO AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU CHEATED, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
SO WHAT PAGE IS THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE PLANT GUIDELINES? I'M SORRY, WHAT PAGE IS THAT ONE ON THE THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR LANDSCAPING LIKE GUIDELINES.
THE THERE'S ONE BULLET SPECIFICALLY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THAT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE TO GET AROUND NATIVE BUT STILL USE SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
AND IF WE'RE CHOOSING PLANTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO BEDFORD, WE LOOK LIKE BEDFORD.
OR IF WE'RE LIKE ON HERE, IT SAYS PAGE 93, A RECOMMENDED TREE IS THE CHINESE PISTACHE.
AND WE DON'T LIVE IN CHINA. WE LIVE IN BEDFORD.
DIDN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT NONINVASIVE SPECIES? YEAH. NONINVASIVE.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE WATER.
WHATEVER. LIKE IT WAS JUST LANGUAGE TO MEAN NATIVE WITHOUT SAYING NATIVE.
WELL, I KNOW WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT NATIVE, RIGHT? I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT LANGUAGE NOW.
SO LET ME FIND OUT WHERE THAT IS.
THAT'S A NOTE FROM SEVERAL A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
RIGHT. AND ON PAGE 93, IT'D BE GREAT TO JUST KNOCK OFF CHINESE PISTACHE PERIOD.
I HATE TO COME TO ANOTHER MEETING AND GO, OH, WE'RE STILL THERE.
AND I THINK THE LIGHT POLE ONE.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT LIGHT POLLUTION AS A GUIDELINE.
I'M SORRY. WHAT? SECTION. I'M SORRY. PAGE 93, NUMBER FIVE.
ARE YOU JUST WANTING TO ADD THAT? TO ADD A BULLET TO THAT EFFECT? YEAH. WE'RE JUST ESTABLISH A COLLABORATIVE DESIGN PROGRAM FOR STREETLIGHTS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CONSIDER LIGHT POLLUTION WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING STUFF WHEN WE GET TO IT LATER.
ANYTHING ELSE THROUGHOUT THE POLICIES OR ACTION ITEMS. ARE YOU ABLE TO GO OVER THE CHANGES THAT WE DID MAKE FROM THE LAST ONE? WHAT CHANGES ARE IN HERE FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET? I DID NOT BRING THOSE.
I DIDN'T BRING ALL THOSE NOTES WITH ME.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEND US OUT JUST LIKE A LIKE.
OKAY. AS YOU PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THE CONSULTANT.
YEAH, I CAN TRY. I'LL FIND THAT.
AND YEAH, YOU KIND OF GIVE US A TRACK CHANGES UPDATE KIND OF THING.
IT'S NOT A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY DOES ATTRACT CHANGES, BUT WE CAN I'LL SEND THE SUMMARY OF WHAT I SENT TO THE CONSULTANT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN BE DONE IN ANOTHER 30 DAYS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO ARE THERE I MEAN, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE IMPORTANT PART BECAUSE AS I STATED AT THE BEGINNING, I'VE ONLY RECEIVED ONE EMAIL FROM ONE COMMISSIONER ON THEIR PROPOSED CHANGES, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING ELSE.
IS THAT ONE COMMISSIONER, SO, WE KNOW.
OH, NOT THE NEW ONE. NOT THE NEW ONE.
YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE WHOLE PLAN.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO GET LOOKING AT AND REVIEWING.
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SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH MEADOW PARK AND THE VC AND THE DENSITIES. AND I FELT THAT THAT WAS MORE OF A GROUP DISCUSSION ABOUT GETTING THOSE DENSITY THINGS TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT THOROUGHFARES INSTEAD OF SPECIFIC STREETS AND THEN THE PARKS THING.WE DON'T RUN INTO THOSE AMBIGUITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER DOCUMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FLOWS AND THE TERMINOLOGY AND THINGS FLOW ALONG.
AND YOU'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THAT.
AND I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO DO THAT COLLECTIVELY.
SO ARE YOU GIVING US HOMEWORK TO SAY YOU WANT US TO? WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN SOMETHING IN.
THAT IF, I MEAN, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET TO AUGUST 27TH AND GIVE ME A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANT CHANGED.
SO I KNOW IT'S IT'S IT'S 101 PAGE 100 AND.
I'M SORRY. BUT IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME KNOW.
AND I'LL GET YOU BACK INTO THEIR DOCUMENT AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
WITH THAT, ALSO WITH THAT DOCUMENTATION FROM ALL OF US.
WOULD THAT HELP YOU WITH YOUR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL WE DO THAT OR JUST IT'S IN THE BUNDLE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE REALLY I DON'T PLAN ON DOING THAT PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
HALLS HILL WILL BE HERE TO DO THAT PRESENTATION.
AND AT THAT POINT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING AN OVERVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT.
AND THEN REALLY SO THAT'LL BE PROBABLY ABOUT AN HOUR IS WHAT I EXPECT THAT PRESENTATION TO TAKE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT HOUR I PLAN ON BEING AT LEAST A TWO HOUR MEETING.
THE NEXT HOUR I'VE ASKED THEM TO GO THROUGH OR GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW TO USE THIS DOCUMENT.
YOU REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING, YOU GOT TRUNCATED FOR SOME REASON.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN WITH AUSTIN, RIGHT? YOU MEAN IT GOT TRUNCATED? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THE REASON.
SOME COUNCIL PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE TIME.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR.
YOU ONLY DO IT ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS OR WHATEVER.
AND A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO IT, ESPECIALLY BY STAFF.
AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE THIS THING.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAD AC ISSUES.
SO THERE WERE ISSUES IN THE BUILDING? NO, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL ALL DO OUR HOMEWORK WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
IF NOTHING ELSE, THAT YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE DOCUMENT AS IT STANDS, ANY SPECIFIC THINGS? WHATEVER. SO WES CAN SAY THAT HE'S CHECKED OFF WITH ALL OF US, SO IF THAT'LL HELP YOU, SIR.
COMMISSIONERS. YOU WANT TO GO HOME? WE WANT TO GO HOME.
OH. DO WE HAVE PROJECT UPDATES ON THE AGENDA? WE DID NOT.
WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? DO YOU KNOW YET? THANK YOU.
WE WILL NOT HAVE A MEETING ON AUGUST 8TH.
SO YOUR NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 27TH.
22ND. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN AUGUST 27TH MEETING AS WELL.
OKAY, SO THERE IS NO AUGUST 8TH MEETING.
YES. AND THE 27TH, THE JOINT MEETING, RIGHT? YES. IT'LL BE IN THIS ROOM.
DO WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING ON THE 22ND? I THINK WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SUP APPLICATIONS.
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BUT ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE DO NOT HAVE A VICE CHAIR.ARE YOU ASKING FOR IT ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA? AT LEAST. OKAY.
OKAY. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL SECOND.
NO, WAIT. A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING? THANK YOU EVERYONE.
APPRECIATE IT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.