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[CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL]

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CALL TO ORDER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BEDFORD.

CAN YOU START OVER? CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY, THURSDAY, MAY 9TH, 2024.

GO THROUGH OUR ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN.

ROGER GALLENSTEIN, PRESENT.

DANIELLE STELLRECHT, PRESENT.

TOM JACOBSEN, PRESENT.

BRUCE EMERY, CHAIRMAN REPSENT.

STEVE OTTO, PRESENT.

J.R. SMITH, PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR MEMBERS AND WE HAVE A QUORUM.

WE WILL PROCEED WITH OUR MEETING FOR THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE RISE, AND STAY FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALMIGHTY GOD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, SEND DOWN UPON THESE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS IN OUR CITY OF BEDFORD THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM, CHARITY AND JUSTICE THAT WITH THE STEADFAST PURPOSE THEY MAY FAITHFULLY SERVE IN THEIR OFFICE TO PROMOTE THE WELL-BEING OF BEDFORD RESIDENTS.

THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.

AMEN. AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

WELCOME, EVERYONE.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF APRIL 11TH AND APRIL 18TH.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR ANY ADDITIONS CORRECTIONS ON THOSE MINUTES.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 11TH AND APRIL 18TH AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 11TH AND APRIL 18TH.

[2. Consider approval of a final plat of Crossroad East Addition Lots 1-R1, 1-R2, 1-R3, and 1-R4 being a replat of a portion of Lot 1-R, Block 1 of Crossroad East Addition and being 7.49 acres located at the northwest corner of North Industrial Boulevard and Airport Freeway intersection, commonly known as 205 N. Industrial Blvd. (PLAT-24-5) ]

OUR FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT OF CROSSROAD EAST ADDITION LOTS 1R-1, 1R-2, 1-R3 AND 1R-4 BEING A REPLAT OF A PORTION OF LOT 1R BLOCK ONE OF CROSSROAD EAST ADDITION 7.49 ACRES A T ADDRESS 205 NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD.

THIS IS CASE PLAT 24-5, STAFF INTRODUCTION.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED AS ONE LOT.

ORIGINALLY IT WAS DEVELOPED AS ONE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE IT INTO FOUR LOTS.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE IS IT'S KIND OF CORNER OF NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD AND AIRPORT FREEWAY.

JUST KIND OF MOVE ON I THINK I'VE COVERED MOST OF THAT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE TONIGHT JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PLAT IS HARD TO READ.

SO THIS LIKE I SAID, THIS IS GOING FROM ONE LOT TO FOUR LOTS.

YOU CAN SEE THERE THE ONE LARGE LOT IN THE CENTER.

THAT'S THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED LATER ON ON THE AGENDA.

THEN YOU'VE GOT THREE LOTS UP FRONT ALONG INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT A PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL LOTS THAT WAS PLATTED, THIS LOT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST, AND A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS NOT INCLUDED.

SO WHEN THE PLAT FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WHEN THE PLAT FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH COMES IN, IT WILL INCLUDE THAT GAP THAT'S BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THE PLAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT.

OH, ONE THING, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL WALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE THE ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENTS WITHIN THE, WITHIN A PLAT AND HOW THAT THIS AFFECTED THE CITY OWNS THIS PROPERTY.

THIS PROCESS FOR EASEMENTS COMES INTO THE PLAT.

THE FACT THAT THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY HAS NO BEARING ON THE EASEMENT ABANDONMENT.

THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY HAD A LOT OF WATER LINING WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES BISECTING THE PROPERTY.

AND WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING FORWARD, THOSE EASEMENTS NEED TO BE AMENDED, A BANDONED WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES WILL BE MOVED.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY THE ABANDONMENTS ARE HAPPENING ON THIS PLAT.

IT'S VERY TYPICAL THAT EASEMENTS ARE ABANDONED THROUGH THE REPLAT PROCESS.

THEY CAN ALSO BE ABANDONED BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENT.

BUT SINCE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE REPLAT PROCESS ANYWAY, THEY'RE JUST MAKING IT CLEANER THIS WAY.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S A BLANK IN THE ABANDONED BY ORDINANCE SUCH AND SUCH THAT'S IN THE PRINT ON HERE? RIGHT THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WHEN DOES THAT GET CODIFIED THAT OR RECORDED THAT IT HAS BEEN ABANDONED? SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE PLATS APPROVED, THEY START INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS TO MOVE ALL THOSE LINES THAT ARE THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT ARE BEING MOVED. ONCE THOSE ARE APPROVED BY STAFF, THEY'LL GO THROUGH, THEY'LL CONSTRUCT THE LINES AND STAFF AND CITY STAFF WILL APPROVE AND THEN OR ACCEPT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN THE PLATS RECORDED.

OKAY. IS WIGGINS STREET GOING TO BE CLOSED OFF OR IS THAT GOING TO REMAIN OPEN? NO. WIGGINS STREET WILL REMAIN OPEN.

SO THERE'LL BE 3 OR 1, 3 OR 4 ACCESS TO THERE'LL BE FOUR OFF OF TWO ACCESS.

YES. THERE'LL BE TWO OFF OF AIRPORT FREEWAY AND TWO OFF OF INDUSTRIAL.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT, WES.

BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENTS BEFORE.

SURE. LATELY I THOUGHT FOR EVERYBODY, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO COVER.

NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPLAT? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT, CROSSROAD EAST ADDITION LOTS 1R-1, 1R-2, 1R-3, AND 1R-4 BEING REPLATED A PORTION OF LOT 1R BLOCK ONE OF CROSSROADS EAST ADDITION AND BEING 7.49 ACRES LOCATED NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD AIRPORT FREEWAY INTERSECTION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 205 NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD PLAT 24-5. I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT CASE PLAT 24-5.

[3. Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a site plan for Lot 1-R1 of the Crossroad East Addition being 5.2 acres generally located at the northwest corner of North Industrial and Airport Freeway intersection, commonly known as 205 N. Industrial Blvd. (SITE-24-4)]

ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM REVIEW AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A SITE PLAN FOR LOT 1R-1 OF THE CROSSROAD EAST ADDITIONS BEING 5.2 ACRES.

IT'S ALSO AT THE ADDRESS 205 NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD THE PLAT WE JUST APPROVED SITE 24-4.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSION MEMBERS, THIS IS THE PLAT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.

SO IT'S THE CENTER, THE BIG LOT, LOT 1R1 THAT WAS SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF REASON.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS SITE PLAN IS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE.

YOU HAVE TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ANY SITE PLAN IN THAT OVERLAY.

THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BACK IN THE 80S, I BELIEVE, AS A GROCERY STORE AND RETAIL CENTER.

IT PROPERTY WAS CLEARED IN 2023, AND THE APPLICANTS COMING FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR US TONIGHT.

JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTION THE OTHER LOTS, AS A PART OF THIS PLAT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED, WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES COME IN FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL HAVE TO YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE A SITE PLAN IN EACH OF THOSE LOTS AS WELL.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

TRY TO MARK UP THE SITE, PLAN A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS.

KIND OF IDENTIFIED WHERE NORTH INDUSTRIAL WAS JUST SO YOU CAN GET YOUR BEARINGS OBVIOUSLY NORTH INDUSTRIAL IS ON THE SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE.

THEN THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WOULD BE THE AIRPORT FREEWAY.

WHAT I DID FOR JUST A POINT OF REFERENCE TO WAS TO CIRCLE THOSE ACCESS POINTS SO YOU COULD SEE THERE ARE FOUR ACCESS POINTS INTO THE SITE.

WIGGINS WILL REMAIN A PUBLIC STREET, AND THEN THE OTHER THREE SITES DIRECTLY FROM EITHER AIRPORT FREEWAY, FRONTAGE ROAD OR NORTH INDUSTRIAL.

THE ANCHOR OF THE SITE, THE 23,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS FOR INTENDED FOR A GROCERY STORE.

USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE INDUSTRIAL I'M SORRY IN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THEN THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS AT 10,000FT² APIECE ARE GOING TO BE IDENTIFIED AS RETAIL RESTAURANT.

AS THOSE USES COME IN, WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE USES INDIVIDUALLY.

BUT THIS IS JUST THE SITE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND THEN THEY'RE PROVIDING ABOUT AN 18,000 SQUARE FOOT GREEN SPACE PLAZA AREA.

IF YOU'LL RECALL, AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH OUR COMP PLAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING THOSE PLAZAS AND OPEN SPACES IN DEVELOPMENTS.

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SO THIS IS THIS WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.

IT WON'T BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

BUT IT IS AN OPEN SPACE FOR TO PROVIDE MORE OPEN SPACE IN THE AREA.

BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

THESE ARE JUST RENDERINGS THAT SHOW THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE EARTH TONE COLORS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

THE TOP ELEVATION IS THAT OF THE GROCER AND THEN THE BOTTOM ELEVATION IS THE RETAIL RESTAURANT SPACES.

SITE PHOTOS.

AGAIN, I THINK EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT THERE.

THE TWO TOP PHOTOS ARE OF THE SITE ITSELF, ALONG WITH THE THIRD OR THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

AND THEN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH DOES REQUIRE REVIEW AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM P&Z.

IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM OR THEM.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ONE QUESTION. I THINK I BROACHED IT BEFORE I WALKED THIS THIS MORNING, AND I WAS ALWAYS WONDERING HOW ALL THAT COULD FIT IN THAT PIECE OF LAND.

IT'S LARGE, AND SO THERE'S NO QUESTION AS TO GREEN SPACE, PARKING AND WHATEVER.

IT'S A LARGE LOT.

AND ONE OBSERVATION GOING BACK TO YOUR PREVIOUS PICTURE.

IF YOU'RE PARKED AT THAT INDUSTRIAL SITE WHERE THAT AUTOMOBILE IS ON THE LOWER LEFT, YOU CAN'T SEE THE FENCE IN THE BACK.

SO THERE'S A PRETTY SIZABLE ELEVATION, ABOUT SIX FEET, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE BACK FENCE FROM THE FROM THE STREET.

SO I ASSUME THAT WILL BE GRADED AND THERE WILL BE NO ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

YEAH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH GRADING THEY'LL DO ON SITE.

THIS IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERS HERE.

SO THEY MAY BE BETTER BETTER TO EQUIP TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVEN'T SEEN STAFF HAS NOT SEEN DETAILED CONSTRUCTION PLANS ON THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE SITE PLAN, BUT I'M SURE THERE WILL BE GRADING ON THE SITE.

AND I WOULD THINK ALSO, ONE OF THE REASONS THE GROCER WAS ATTRACTED TO THIS SITE IS BECAUSE OF THAT ELEVATION THAT IS THERE.

AND APPARENTLY IT DRAINS WELL, IT'S ALL DRY.

YEAH. SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD THING. YEAH.

THANK YOU WES I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, SINCE THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE COME TO VISIT US THIS EVENING, THAT YOU DECIDE WHICH OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND EXPLAIN YOUR PROJECT TO US.

AND DIDN'T HAVE TO COME FAR TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS DREW DANOWSKI I'M WITH CLAYMORE ENGINEERING AT 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS.

THANK YOU WES FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AS WES MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT TWO SHELL RETAIL BUILDINGS AND A GROCER, AS WELL AS THREE PAD SITES FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL TO COME IN THE FUTURE.

THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ELEVATION ON THE PROPERTY, WITH THE WEST SIDE BEING THE HIGH SIDE, EVERYTHING DRAINING TOWARDS INDUSTRIAL.

SO WE'RE PLANNING ON WORKING WITH THAT GRADE CHANGE WITH THE THE GROCER AND THE RETAIL BUILDINGS BEING ON THE HILL ON THE TOP AND THEN THE PARKING LOT DRAINING AWAY. THERE WILL BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE GRADES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PAVING AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE GRADE AS BEST WE CAN SO WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE EXPORT OR IMPORT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

JUST CURIOUS WALK US THROUGH JUST FOR A LEARNING EXPERIENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT OUR CONSIDERATION REALLY I'M JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU BEING HERE.

BUT WITH THE BLANK PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES TO HOW YOU POSITIONED THE BUILDINGS THE WAY YOU DID FOR INSTANCE, THE NORTHERNMOST RETAIL? WOULD YOU NOT HAVE MAYBE WANTED THOSE RETAILERS TO FACE 183 OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? INTERESTED IN HOW YOU KIND OF CAME UP WITH THE OVERVIEW OF WHICH BUILDING WENT WHERE.

SO THE PROPERTY IS FRAMED IN CURRENTLY BY A TWO STORY RETAIL BUILDING THAT FRONTS 183.

SO THERE THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN US AND THE HIGHWAY.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO LAYING OUT THE SITE OFF HIGHWAY, I'LL CALL IT, WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO WAS KIND OF FRAME IT IN AND MAKE IT MORE OF AN INTERNAL SHOPPING CENTER.

WHILE IT IS AN L TOWARDS THE HEART INTERSECTION OF INDUSTRIAL AND 183, WE WANTED TO CREATE THAT COHESIVE FEEL WITH THE PARKING BEING ALL OUT FRONT FOR CUSTOMERS TO PARK THEIR CAR AND WALK DIRECTLY TO THE SHOP THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO.

WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EMPLOYEE PARKING BACK THERE IN THE BACK THAT COULD BE USED FOR CUSTOMERS, BUT REALLY, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE USED BY EMPLOYEES MOST OF THE

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TIME. THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW A LOT OF THAT FRONT PARKING FIELD TO TO BE OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE FOR CUSTOMERS THAT JUST WANT TO RUN IN AND GRAB A SANDWICH OR BUY THEIR GROCERIES OR, YOU KNOW, EAT AT A RESTAURANT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT THE PAD SITES OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW, PAD SITES BEING SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEY COULD BE WE DON'T HAVE ANY USES OR TENANTS IN MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ALWAYS WANT TO BE OUT ON THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT THERE.

AND THEN ONCE THAT'S ALL BUILT OUT, YOU REALLY GOT A NICE SQUARE OF OF KIND OF A SHOPPING CENTER FEEL FOR, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.

AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE LOCATION OF THE GREEN SPACE, THE IDEA THERE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY USABLE FOR BOTH OF THOSE SHELL RETAIL BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE A RESTAURANT OR A USER, A TENANT ON THE END CAP OF EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT THAT REALLY INTEGRATES THAT OPEN SPACE AND MAKES THEM FUNCTIONAL AND USABLE. AND THEN OUR HOPE IS THAT AS THE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS FURTHER NORTH, THAT THAT'S ALL INTEGRAL AND TIED IN AS ONE COHESIVE, WALKABLE GREEN SPACE.

EXCELLENT IS THE.

EXCUSE ME, IS THE WHAT LOOKS LIKE BRICK.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THAT STAMPED CONCRETE BRICK.

IT'S A IT'S A DECORATIVE PAVEMENT.

TEND TO TO GIVE IT A CONTRAST TO THE REST.

RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TRIED TO LOCATE THAT AT SOME KEY FOCAL POINT AREAS, MAINLY INTERSECTIONS.

RIGHT. TO, TO REALLY DRAW THE CUSTOMER AND THE, AND THE PATRONS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

DO YOU, IN YOUR MIND, HAVE AN IDEA I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING SPECIFICS, BUT THAT THIS WOULD BE THE RESTAURANT OR ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS, BUT WHAT TYPE OF RESTAURANT MIGHT GO IN AT 10,500 SQUARE FOOT AREA? SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY NOT TAKE UP THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

THERE COULD BE A NUMBER OF TENANTS.

SO YOU'RE THINKING MULTIPLE TENANTS IN.

MOST LIKELY. OKAY.

OKAY. AND DO YOU MIND GOING TO THE SCREEN THAT SHOWS THE ELEVATION? YOU MAY GET A GOOD FEEL.

SO SEE, YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE TENANTS ON ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

AND THAT SPACE THAT YOU YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU GET SOME RESTAURANTS IN THERE THAT ACTIVATE THE SPACE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE GRASS IN THERE.

SO IS THERE NOT GOING TO BE ANY LIKE PATIO SPACE? BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE A HUGE SHORTAGE OF AND THERE WILL BE PATIOS.

SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

NO, THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE I SAW THE PICNIC AREA, BUT I DIDN'T SEE LIKE A, YOU KNOW.

THERE WILL BE PATIOS ON, ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WITH, WITH PATIOS BEING INTEGRATED INTO AN END CAP TENANT AND IF IT IS A RESTAURANT, THOSE ARE HIGHLY ORIENTED AROUND THE FINISH OUT THE WHAT THE TENANT ACTUALLY WANTS.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT IF IT'S A ROSE'S TACO SHOP, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUCCO THEME, RIGHT? IF IT'S IF IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESTAURANT, THEY COULD HAVE A WOOD PANEL FENCE AROUND THE PATIO OR A METAL FENCE AROUND THE PATIO.

SO REALLY, THE PATIO SPACE THE SIZE OF THOSE PATIOS IS REALLY GOING TO BE BASED ON WHO THE THE END USER IS.

BUT WE ABSOLUTELY INTEND TO HAVE PATIOS ON BOTH END CAPS AND INCLUDED WITH THE SITE PLAN.

WE DID HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR THE OPEN SPACE.

IT IS PRELIMINARY BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THOSE USERS ARE GOING TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE HOW BIG THOSE PATIOS WILL ULTIMATELY BE.

BUT WE HAD SHOWN THINGS LIKE WALKING PATHS AND AND LITTLE PAVILIONS AND SOME SEATING THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT OPEN SPACE.

OKAY. YEAH. AND I GUESS ONE OTHER QUESTION TOO.

I'M OBVIOUSLY I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ASK THIS, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET SOME OF THE PLANT SCHEDULE AND THE TREES ADDRESSED AS WELL BECAUSE I'M SEEING A LOT OF LIKE MORE BERMUDA GRASS YOU KNOW, AND SWITCHING THOSE OUT TO SOMETHING NATIVE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE WATER AND MOWING AND LOUD, NOISY BLOWERS, LIKE, HOW CAN WE KEEP THAT SOMETHING TO A MINIMUM? THAT WOULD BE IT'S. IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN ANY LANDSCAPE THAT YOU DO, EVEN ZEROSCAPE DOES REQUIRE MAINTENANCE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO WITH ALL ROCK, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN ARIZONA TYPE FIELD, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE BLOWER TIME THAN MOWER TIME.

BUT THERE IS THAT THAT MAINTENANCE REQUIRED WITH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, KEEP THE TRASH OUT OF IT AND WELL, LOOKING.

GOT YOU. YEAH. JUST SOMETHING WHERE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE IRRIGATION AND NOT MORE WATER SUCK PLANTS.

BUT HOW CAN WE USE SOMETHING NATIVE AND ESPECIALLY LIKE I SAW BRADFORD PEAR ON THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT SAID PROTECTED NEXT TO IT.

AND KEEPING THOSE, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO KIND OF GO WITH THOSE VALUES OF MAINTAINING THE ECOSYSTEM WOULD BE GREAT.

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I APPRECIATE IT ON THERE.

THEN I'LL JUST MAKE NOTE, ALL OF THE IRRIGATION THAT WE DO DO FOR SHRUBS, FOR TREES, EVERYTHING'S DRIP.

SO IT'S EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT VERSUS THE OLD, YOU KNOW, ROTARY TYPE SPRINKLERS.

ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ENGINEER PERSON.

A QUESTION ON THE FENCING TO THE WEST, WHERE IT'LL BE ABUTTING THE TOWNHOMES.

I PRESUME THE ZONING REQUIRES THAT IT BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE? THE THE TOWNHOMES DO NOT EXIST YET.

SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY.

IS THAT CORRECT WES? YEAH.

RIGHT NOW THE THE TOWNHOMES DON'T EXIST NOW, THAT'S A FUTURE APPLICATION.

AND SO SO YEAH, THIS APPLICATION DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM THAT'S A FUTURE CONVERSATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JACOBSEN MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER? I ASKED THE EXACT SAME QUESTION.

GOT THE SAME ANSWER TOO.

BUT YES. ANYONE ELSE? I HAD ONE MORE THOUGHT TOO.

WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO MAKING IT LIKE, STREET FRONT AND PUTTING THE PARKING IN THE BACK? SO THERE'S NOT JUST MORE VIEWS OF PARKING LOTS FROM THE STREETS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND.

SO WITH INDUSTRIAL BEING THE SIZE OF ROADWAY, IT IS.

IT'S ALMOST A HIGHWAY WITH IT BEING SIX LANE DIVIDED.

IT'S NOT AS URBAN AND WALKABLE AS SOME DEVELOPMENTS YOU MAY SEE HAVE THAT THAT STREET FRONT, LARGE YOU KNOW, PLAZA TYPE SIDEWALKS, AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.

SO REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO FOSTER IS THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT, REALLY ACTIVATE THAT GREEN SPACE, THAT OPEN SPACE.

AND THEN WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT CONTINUES ON TO THE NORTH WITH MAYBE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE JUST REFERENCED.

I'M THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, THE CHURCH BEING ACROSS THE STREET AND THE HIGH SCHOOL BEING ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT THERE, ALL GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE WALKING LIKE, OKAY, I HAVE TO WALK THROUGH A PARKING LOT TO GET OVER TO THESE STORES.

WELL, THERE WILL BE THREE PAD SITES IN THE FRONT TOO.

SO IF THAT'S THEIR FIRST STOP, THERE'S THAT.

BUT THEN AS FAR AS AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE GOES, WATER ALWAYS WANTS TO GO DOWNHILL.

AND GIVEN THE DRAINAGE AND THE TOLPPO ON THIS SITE, PLACING THE BUILDINGS AT THE TOP NOT ONLY GIVES THEM THE BEST VISIBILITY FROM 183 OVER THAT EXISTING TWO STORY RETAIL BUILDING, THAT'S BLOCKING US FROM 183, BUT ALSO FROM A DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE HAVING THE WATER DRAIN AWAY FROM THE BUILDINGS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE EASIER TO KIND OF DESIGN WITH THE WITH THE SITE RATHER THAN TRYING TO DESIGN AGAINST IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

EXCELLENT. ANYBODY ELSE? OH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.

SO THANK YOU.

IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM SITE 24-4.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE.

THE SITE PLAN CASE SITE 24-4 AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

OH, MR. OTTO HAS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. WE PASS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE THIS THE SITE PLAN.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT DOCUMENTS AS THE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR ATTENDING.

THANKS FOR TAKING INTEREST IN BEDFORD AND PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER.

YEAH. AS I MENTIONED TO YOU A MINUTE AGO THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY VISIBLE PROJECT FOR BEDFORD.

EVERYBODY HAS EYES ON IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR CITY.

IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST ONES IN A LONG TIME.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB IN WHAT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANKS. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AND DO SOMETHING MORE INTERESTING.

BUT WE HAVE SOME SOME FUTURE BUSINESS TO DO ON SOME DOCUMENTATION FOR THE CITY.

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BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY AND LISTEN OR WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND WHILE WE HAVE A A LULL IN THE PROCEEDINGS, I WANT TO INTRODUCE COUNCILPERSON ELECT JOE BRANNON, WHO HAS COME TO VISIT WITH US THIS EVENING AND LISTEN TO OUR WISDOM.

BUT WE WANTED TO INVITE YOU TO COME AND AND LISTEN TO THESE DELIBERATIONS AND PARTICULARLY BEING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, CAMPUS WEST, TO GET IT, TO SEE IT FROM THE GROUND FLOOR, BECAUSE YOU'LL GET TO SEE THIS AGAIN MORE THAN ONCE.

YES. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

HEY, WES , WE'RE READY TO DISCUSS THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REVIEW THE OUR SUGGESTIONS.

[4. Discuss draft Comprehensive Plan and review Commission suggestions related to draft policies, goals, and action items]

WHICH WE ALWAYS HAVE SUGGESTED.

OH YES. THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD.

HAVE WE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

SO THAT'LL THAT'LL BE MY FINISHING PART.

BUT NO.

SO AS, AS COMMISSIONER OTTO ALLUDED TO, WE WE WENT OVER THESE IN MARCH AT THAT TIME TWO DIFFERENT THINGS CAME UP. ONE, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE VISION STATEMENT, AND SO I WANTED TO US TO GO OVER THAT TONIGHT.

AND THEN TWO, THERE WERE JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS MADE THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.

SO I WANT US TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THOSE.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS WON'T TAKE TOO LONG, BUT IT'LL I'LL, I'M HERE AS LONG AS YOU WANT ME HERE.

SO THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT IS THE THE SAME DOCUMENT YOU'VE SEEN A HANDFUL OR MORE TIMES.

IT HAS THE VISION STATEMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PREPARED AND THEN THE SIX GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

JUMPING INTO THE VISION STATEMENT FIRST SO CHAIRMAN EMERY PROPOSED A VISION STATEMENT.

I PUT IT IN EVERYBODY'S PACKET AND IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW TO REPLACE THE PROPOSED THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT AND ENSURING EMERY AND I'VE TALKED AND WHAT HE PROPOSED HERE IS REALLY MORE ALONG THE LINES OF PROBABLY A MISSION STATEMENT AS WE DISCUSSED.

AND I KIND OF WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I'VE ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE Y'ALL BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT WE DID THIS VISION STATEMENT IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF THE PROCESS.

AND EITHER YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, OR WE MAY NOT HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT A VISION STATEMENT IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS THE VISION STATEMENT IS TELLING THE READER OF THE DOCUMENT, WHERE DOES BEDFORD BEDFORD WANT TO BE IN 20 YEARS? SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WHAT I DID IS I JUST PLUCKED A COUPLE OF VISION STATEMENTS AND.

OH, YES, IF YOU WILL PASS THOSE OVER, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. ENRIQUE IS GOING TO PASS OUT SOME HARD COPIES IN THAT IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF PAGES, BUT IN THAT IT HAS THOSE EXAMPLES THAT I PULLED FROM A COUPLE OF SURROUNDING CITIES.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO HOW SIMPLE OR HOW COMPLEX A VISION STATEMENT CAN BE.

AND I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OF THE OF THE COMMISSION TONIGHT ABOUT A VISION STATEMENT AND REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT.

ONE DO WE ALL SHARE THE, THE, THE DESIRE TO CHANGE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED? AND IF WE DO, THEN HOW DO WE WHAT DO WE WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE? AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH IS JUST THAT QUESTION RIGHT THERE, THE VISION STATEMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, WHICH SAYS BEDFORD IS A COMMUNITY LIKE NO OTHER, A UNIQUE AND UNIQUELY CONNECTED MIX OF THRIVING RESIDENTIAL VILLAGES AND BUSTLING DESTINATIONS.

IT IS HOME TO ARTS AND ARTISTS, NATURE AND NATURE LOVERS, BUSINESSES AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND FAMILIES THAT HAVE CALLED BEDFORD HOME FOR GENERATIONS, ALWAYS EVOLVING WHILE HOLDING ON TO THE IDEAS AND VALUES THAT MAKE IT SPECIAL.

BEDFORD WILL DELIVER THE BEST FOR YOU AND BRING THE BRING OUT THE BEST IN YOU.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT THERE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FELT LIKE ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES THAT CAME OUT OF THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DEVISING THIS PLAN WAS THAT BEDFORD [INAUDIBLE] IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND SO WE REALLY WANTED TO TRY TO WORK ON BREAKING DOWN THOSE SEGREGATIONS OF THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT IS CONNECTIVITY.

THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUS ON THAT.

SO AGAIN, THIS STATEMENT IS WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE IN 20 YEARS.

SO WE WANT TO BE BETTER THAN WE ARE TODAY OBVIOUSLY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT SOME OF THAT CONNECTIVITY LANGUAGE IN THERE.

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CLEARLY ARTS AND NATURE IS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE MENTIONED THAT IN THERE.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND BUSINESS OWNERS THAT RESIDE THAT THEIR BUSINESS RESIDE IN BEDFORD AND THEY RESIDE IN BEDFORD.

SO WE WANTED TO TO CALL HOMAGE TO THAT AS WELL.

ALSO, AND I'LL TELL YOU IT'S IT'S INTERESTING TO ME AND THIS BEING NOW A COUPLE OF CITIES I'VE WORKED FOR DIRECTLY.

BEDFORD IS UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER WORKED FOR ANOTHER CITY, THAT ALMOST EVERY TIME I PICK UP MY PHONE AND IT'S A RESIDENT, THAT RESIDENT STARTS OFF THEIR INTRODUCTION WITH MY NAME IS SO AND SO, AND I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS.

PEOPLE IN BEDFORD ARE VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE LIVED IN BEDFORD FOR A LONG TIME, AND SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF PAY PAY HOMAGE TO THAT, THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHERE THAT WHERE THAT VISION STATEMENT CAME FROM.

DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T CHANGE IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK AT OTHER THINGS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO STOP TALKING AND HEAR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE HAD, YOU ALL DIVIDED US UP, OR THE CONTRACTORS DIVIDED US UP AND AND EACH TABLE CAME UP WITH A PIECE OF THIS IS THAT.

AND THAT'S THIS IS THE END RESULT OF THAT WORKSHOP, IS.

THAT THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THOSE PIECES.

YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT'S BEEN A YEAR AGO.

THAT WAS WAS THAT.

YEAH. THAT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR AGO NOW YEAH.

I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN. YES A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH. SO TWO THINGS.

OH GO AHEAD TOM. WITHOUT TRYING TO BE TOO PEJORATIVE ABOUT IT, LOOKING AT THE TWO STATEMENTS AS I READ THIS ORIGINAL ONE AGAIN, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MARTHA STEWART'S HOMETOWN OF WESTCHESTER OR SOMETHING LIKE IT.

AND I LIKED THE REALITY OF THE REVISED STATEMENT.

IT JUST SEEMS TO BE MUCH MORE GROUNDED.

HAD THE OTHER ONE TALKED ABOUT WILL BE OR MAY BECOME, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

BUT TO SAY TO BEDFORD YOU UNIQUELY CONNECTED MIX OF THRIVING RESIDENTIAL VILLAGES AND BUSTLING DESTINATION.

IT'S HOME TO ARTS AND ARTISTS, NATURE AND NATURE, LOVERS, BUSINESS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A STRETCH TO ME AS I READ THAT I THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING AT THE TRUMAN SHOW OR SOME PLACE THAT MAY NOT EXIST. THERE'S SOME FAIRNESS TO THAT, I THINK.

I THINK IT IS A LITTLE FLOWERY, MAYBE IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE A LITTLE TOO PIE IN THE SKY MAYBE.

WE CAN TONE THAT DOWN IF YOU WANT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL WOULD BE, DO WE WANT TO NOT MENTION NATURE LOVERS OR ARTIST LOVERS? DO WE WANT TO? DO WE WANT TO? DO WE NOT WANT TO PAY ANY TYPE OF.

I DO. DO WE NOT WANT TO MENTION THAT IN OUR VISION STATEMENT, I GUESS.

IS THAT NOT PART OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN 20 YEARS? YEAH, BUT YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN ARTS AND NATURE AND NATURE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHO IS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN NATURE AND WHICH IS FINE.

SO, I MEAN THIS MIGHT LEND ITSELF MORE TO IF WE EVER GET BEDFORD COMMENTS OFF THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TOO FAR.

I MEAN, THE LET'S PART OF THIS DOCUMENT IS WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO SAY, WELL, IF WE WE DON'T WANT TO SAY IF WE EVER GET THIS DONE, WE MAY BECOME THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.

BUT THAT'S MY POINT IS BEDFORD COMMENTS IS I THINK THAT IT'S WRITTEN IN PART OF THIS.

SO I THINK IN MY LIKE I AGREE WITH TOM, THE THE LANGUAGE FEELS A LITTLE FLOWERY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE VISION STATEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE WE ENVISION THIS FOR THE FUTURE, NOT IT IS THIS TODAY WE DO SEE THIS FOR THE FUTURE, BUT WE JUST APPROVED ANOTHER STRIP RETAIL, WHICH I'M LIKE THAT DOESN'T FIT INTO THE BUCKET OF WE'RE A COMMUNITY LIKE NO OTHER.

LIKE, NOPE, IT'S ANOTHER STRIP CENTER.

LIKE THAT'S NOT UNIQUE.

AND SO I WOULD HAVE CONCERN ONLY IN THE SPACE OF LIKE IF WE ARE SAYING THIS IS A VISION WE WANT, ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING IN THAT DIRECTION? WOULD BE LIKE, DON'T SAY IT AND THEN NOT DO IT.

THAT'S THE THING. TOTALLY AGREE.

AND I THINK MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE, THIS IS THIS IS THE FOUNDATION IN ORDER FOR US TO NOT TO APPROVE THOSE SITE PLANS.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT SITE PLAN MET THE ORDINANCE.

SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, IF IT MEETS THE ORDINANCE, WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.

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YEAH, BUT I NEED TO GET THIS DONE FIRST.

AND I NEED THIS VISION STATEMENT TO TELL ME WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I I'M NOT SAYING I NEED THIS VISION STATEMENT.

I NEED A VISION STATEMENT SO I CAN GET THIS DOCUMENT OFF THE GROUND AND GET GOING.

HEY, WES, LET ME LET ME JUMP OUTSIDE THIS BECAUSE AND I MEANT TO BRING IT TONIGHT AND IT SAYS BEAUTIFUL PICTURES THAT YOU GAVE US OF THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO ON. I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHETHER IT BE NEXT DOOR OR FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER, AND PEOPLE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, SO THEY CRITICIZE.

A LOT OF IT COMES BACK TO DENSITY.

OKAY. I LIVED THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

IS THERE ANY PLAN THAT WHEN WE ROLL OUT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, THAT YOU WORK WITH MOLLY AND WE SLOWLY GET THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WHAT I SEE, WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB, AND I'M SAYING IT'S MOLLY, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ABBY'S DOING SOME OF IT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS CITY OF BEDFORD RESPONDING TO THOSE PEOPLE AND USUALLY IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MISPERCEPTION OF WHAT IT IS.

AND WHEN THEY RESPOND, THEY GO, OH, OKAY, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY COOL.

AND I JUST I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND SLOWLY GET THIS INFORMATION OUT.

IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO SIT HERE AND THEY THINK WE'RE THE GRAND POOBAH, SO TO SPEAK, IN THE SAME WAY WITH COUNCIL.

AND THEN YOU GET ALL THIS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK AND THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF THE PIECE.

SO WHEN WE DO GET IT ALL PUT TOGETHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THAT WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SLOWLY ROLL THIS OUT AND EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT THESE DIFFERENT LOOKS COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.

I'M JUST MAKING A SUGGESTION.

IT MIGHT MAKE YOUR LIFE EASIER.

NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF BECAUSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, ASSUMING THIS PLAN GETS ADOPTED AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TRYING TO IMPLEMENT IT AND TO CREATE THOSE ORDINANCES THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO FORCE THE VISION WE WANT TO SEE.

THEN AS WE AS WE GET THERE, WE ARE GOING TO BE, WHETHER IT BE IN THIS ROOM OR WHETHER IT BE IN SOMETHING LIKE WE DID ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE BREAK UP INTO LITTLE GROUPS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET MORE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT TO SHOW PEOPLE IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE A ZONING DISTRICT TO MEET THESE GOALS, THIS IS WHAT IT CAN LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

ROGER. WE YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS HAVE WE HAD AND HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP? WELL, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE ARE PEOPLE AND I'LL SEE THEM.

SO RATHER THAN BE RESPONSIVE, BE PROACTIVE AND SAY, HEY, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, MONTHS OR WHATEVER, SHOW WHAT SOME OF THESE LOOKS ARE LIKE AND WHY THESE THINGS MIGHT BE MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

WELL, REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S ONE.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT.

AND HE SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.

I DON'T KNOW WHO HE WAS, BUT I LIKED THE VISION THEN.

YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THAT'S THAT'S WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT IS TODAY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

THEN I LIKE IT. I'M FINE WITH IT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I'M STILL A LITTLE HUNG UP ON IS, IS IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I SWEAR WAS THERE BEFORE AND IS NOT.

I LIKE PRESERVING FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE GENERATIONS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, I WOULD RATHER THE VISION STATEMENT NOT BE THE HILL WE DIE ON TO LIKE, ACTUALLY GET THE ORDINANCES IN PLACE SO WE CAN START MAKING IT HAPPEN.

WES AND MY MY PROPOSED VISION STATEMENT FOR US FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T LIKE THE CURRENT ONE.

IF NOTHING ELSE, TO TAKE OUT THE WORDS UNIQUE TWICE OUT OF THERE.

OKAY. YOUR SUGGESTED COMPROMISE IS IS PRETTY OKAY, BUT I COULD WITH A LITTLE DIRECTION OR SEMI APPROVAL, CHANGE THE WORDING IN THE VISION STATEMENT THAT I PROPOSED TO MAKE IT MORE OF A PRESENT.

LIKE INSTEAD OF SAYING STRIVE, SAY IS.

I MEAN MAKE IT A MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT OF LIKE YOUR BEDFORD IS INSTEAD OF WILL BE IF THAT MEETS MORE THE CRITERION OF A VISION STATEMENT.

I THINK WITH JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS CHANGING IN, YOU KNOW.

[INAUDIBLE] FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST LINE YOU CAN SAY BEDFORD IS A SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN JUST DO THAT.

DOES THAT MORE FIT A VISION STATEMENT? IT. IF THAT'S IF THAT TOP BULLET IS THE ONLY THING YOU WANTED TO DO YES.

I MEAN, IT'S TYPICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE BULLETS WITH A WITH A VISION STATEMENT.

GOTCHA. I'M JUST SAYING TYPICALLY IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN BE DIFFERENT.

AND BUT I APPRECIATE YOU [IANUDIBLE].

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I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND GIVE YOU SOME, SOME OTHER EXAMPLES SO THAT I DO THINK REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE WRITE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE WORD RECREATION AS ONE OF THE ITEMS. THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS MISSING IN THE ORIGINAL ONE, AND I DON'T REALLY SEE IT IN THE COMPROMISE ONE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT RECREATION, BECAUSE THAT'S BECOMING A BIGGER PIECE OF OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, THE YMCA, THE NEW TRAILS WE MAY DEVELOP, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE RECREATIONAL, YOU KNOW, POSITIVES OF BEDFORD IN THIS VISION BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THERE VERY, VERY MUCH.

ALTHOUGH THE WORD RECREATION IS IN, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BULLET POINTS, IT'S IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

IT'S NOT IN THE VISION STATEMENT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT WORD IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

YEAH. BECAUSE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW BUT THE SENIOR CENTER IS COMING ONLINE.

THEY DO THEY OFFER, THEY'LL BE OFFERING ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

SO. YEAH.

OKAY. SO LET'S HAVE SOME HAVE SOME SMART PEOPLE SAY, HOW CAN WE GET TOGETHER THE RIGHT WORDS TO GET DONE WITH THIS TONIGHT? ON YOUR SUGGESTED COMPROMISE I DON'T MIND YOUR FIRST SENTENCE, BUT I'D LIKE TO INSERT THRIVING RESIDENTIAL AND PUT IN VILLAGES COMMON NEIGHBORHOODS.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF INCORPORATING THE VILLAGE ASPECT INTO THIS.

NOW THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS ON THE BOTTOM OF IT HOW CAN I HOW CAN WE EXPRESS THE VISION FOR BEDFORD TO I MEAN, YES, WE JUST PASSED A STRIP CENTER, BUT THAT STRIP CENTER LOOKS DIFFERENT.

IT'S UPDATED.

IT'S IT KIND OF MEETS THE GOALS AND THE, THE STRATEGIC PLANS OF WHAT WE WANT IN HERE.

HOW CAN WE PUT THOSE INTO WORDS OF WHAT WE WANT TO WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AS AT THE LAST IN THERE.

WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WELL.

I MEAN, THE TOTAL VISION IS I WANT TO CLEAN UP BEDFORD.

OKAY? RIGHT. I REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT A PLACE.

YES, IT'S IT'S GOT IT'S HOME TO THE ARTS, NATURE ARTS, ARTIST.

NATURE, NATURE LOVERS, BUSINESS, BUSINESS OWNER FAMILIES.

I LIKE THAT IDEA IN THERE.

BUT NOW WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO REJUVENATE.

I IF I COULD, I THINK THE THE STATEMENT OF BUSTLING DESTINATIONS IS WHAT IS MAYBE THAT IS CREATING THAT IS CREATING THOSE TAKE SOME OF THOSE UNDERUTILIZED SHOPPING CENTERS AND MAKE THEM A MORE PLACE TO BE TYPE DESTINATION.

IF I COULD OFFER THIS BECAUSE I WOULD.

I DON'T WANT TO KEEP KEEPING UP WITH DRAFTS AND BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU.

IF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO APPOINT MAYBE A 2 OR 3 MEMBER COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, AND WE CAN KIND OF GET OFF CENTER HERE.

DOES THAT SOUND? OKAY BY ME. YEAH, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S YOU KNOW, IF WE AFTER ON YOUR SUGGESTED COMPROMISE AFTER THE WORD NEIGHBORHOODS, IF THERE WAS A COMMON IT SAID VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND VILLAGES, I MEAN A COUPLE LITTLE WORDSMITH TWEAKS.

SO, SO JUST SO AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, VILLAGES IS ANOTHER IT'S A PLANNING TERM FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IT COULD BE WE CAN DO BOTH OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

IT'S WE'RE STARTING TO USE THAT WORD VERY IN THE NEW MASTER PLAN.

RIGHT. AND I'M KIND OF LIKE THAT WORD TOO VILLAGES OVER NEIGHBORHOODS JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM LIKE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, LIKE A VILLAGE, IS KIND OF ELEVATES THAT A BIT. I THOUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE HAVING A HARDSHIP OR HARD HEARTBURN, I GUESS, WITH THE WORD VILLAGES.

SO IF NOT, THEN THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY. ARE YOU VOLUNTEERING? WHO WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO WORK ON THIS? AND WE DON'T WANT YOUR ARM TO FALL OFF, SO HELP US HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT REALLY A COUNCILWOMAN.

I'M UNOFFICIAL WINNER, SO VOTES ARE STILL BEING TALLIED, BUT I AM AN INTERESTED BEDFORD RESIDENT NO MATTER WHAT WITH A JOURNALISM DEGREE. AND I THINK IT'S NO ACCIDENT THAT I HAD A RED PEN IN MY HAND.

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I THINK THIS WHOLE THING COULD BE TIGHTENED UP AND I THINK NOTHING.

TALK ABOUT HEARTBURN.

WRITING BY COMMITTEE GIVES ME HEARTBURN, BUT I THINK ONE OF YOUR PROBLEMS IS TRYING TO BE SO SPECIFIC.

I THINK IF WITH CHOOSING THE CORRECT WORDS, YOU CAN ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SOME THINGS ARE SYNONYMS AND THEY MEAN THE SAME THING WITH DIFFERENT EMPHASIS ON ONE CONNOTATION OR ANOTHER. SO I THINK LONGER DOES NOT MAKE IT BETTER.

I DON'T THINK YOU WANT A LAUNDRY LIST OF WHAT BEDFORD AND I CAMPAIGNED ON WANTING BEDFORD TO GO FORWARD AND HAVING A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING ALL OF THIS.

BUT I THINK WHEN YOU GET INTO THINGS ABOUT ARTS AND ARTISTS AND NATURE AND NATURE LOVERS, TO ME IT GENERATIONS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO THAT, THAT WE HAVE ALL GENERATIONS.

SO I THINK IF YOU CAN GET INTO THINKING MORE BROADLY AND LESS SPECIFICALLY, IT'LL MAKE MORE PEOPLE HAPPY.

AND THAT'S JUST MY JOURNALISM DEGREE TALKING IN, TRYING TO BE MORE SUCCINCT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, BEFORE YOU GO, SINCE YOU'RE HERE.

COULD YOU GIVE US A PARAGRAPH OF WHAT YOU WOULD SAY? WELL, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE I WOULD WORK ON IT.

BUT ONE THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THERE'S THIS IS NOT PARALLELED WRITING, WHICH IS KIND OF TECHNICAL, BUT YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S OKAY.

WE WE HAVE SOME VERBS AND NOT VERBS AND AND AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF DISJOINTED.

AND I THINK IT COMES FROM TRYING TO MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY.

IT'S A GOOD INTENTION.

IT MAKES IT HARD FOR PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T IN A WORKSHOP TO UNDERSTAND.

IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF TOO ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BUT WHAT IT IS, IS YOU'RE TRYING TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING, AND THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.

SO, I MEAN, MAYBE INSTEAD OF HOME TO ARTS AND ARTISTS, A PLACE THAT VALUES ARTS, NATURE, BUSINESS AND FAMILIES.

THAT'S JUST ME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I LIKE AN IDEA AND THIS IS ANOTHER.

THIS IS ME, AND IT'S WHAT I CAMPAIGNED ON.

IT IS LEAVING A LEGACY FOR THE FUTURE, WHICH ALSO SPEAKS TO THE FUTURE AND TRYING TO GO FORWARD.

BUT ONE REASON I LIKE WRITING IS THERE'S IT'S NOT LIKE TWO PLUS TWO IT ALWAYS EQUALS FOUR.

WRITING IS CREATIVE AND DIFFERENT THINGS SPEAK TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

BUT THIS HAS A LOT OF WORDS AND IT COMES FROM A GOOD PLACE.

I, YOU KNOW, BUT RED PEN, I'D MARK IT UP.

DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS? I DIDN'T WRITE IT, SO IT'S OKAY.

OKAY, OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I VOLUNTEER JUST AS AN INTERESTED CITIZEN TO HELP, IF THAT'S.

I MEAN, Y'ALL COULD COME TOGETHER WITH IT, AND I'LL WRITE IT UP WITH MARK IT UP WITH RED PEN.

I'M JUST VOLUNTEERING.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT, IT'S FINE WITH ME.

BUT THIS IS MY PROFESSION.

WELL, YOU DID THIS FOR A LIVING.

I STILL DO, AND I STILL.

I'M A CONSULTANT WHO WRITES FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT PUBLICATIONS AND DO PR.

I DO PR FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO.

AND I'D LIKE TO DO PR FOR MY HOMETOWN.

SURE. MY NEW ADOPTED HOMETOWN.

SO EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. DANIELLE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WAS COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.

OH, NO. NO. I'M SORRY.

NOT COMPLETELY. I WAS SAYING HOW OUR SLOGAN ISN'T BEDFORD.

SPEAKERS] WE WANT TO GET THIS THING OFF DEAD CENTER.

SO LET'S LET'S MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH THIS FOR.

IS THIS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO VOTE ON? NO, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE DOCUMENT, BUT BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS I, I MEAN, BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE CONSULTANT WAITING ON ME TO SAY, YES, SEND ME THE DRAFT OF THE ENTIRE PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE DONE WITH IT, AND THEN WE VOTE ON THAT.

YEAH, YOU'LL VOTE ON THE ENTIRE PLAN.

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I MEAN, BUT BUT REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT, FRANKLY, TODAY DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'D SAY THAT.

WELL, OKAY.

SO THEY WON'T THEY HAVEN'T DIVED INTO THE WEEDS LIKE WE HAVE AND ALL THIS STUFF.

SO BUT THAT'S WHY THEY APPOINTED YOU TO DIVE INTO THOSE WEEDS.

THAT'S RIGHT. WE GET PAID BIG BUCKS FOR DOING THAT.

EXACTLY. AND COMMISSIONER OTTO'S EARLIER COMMENTS, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MORE PUBLIC FORUMS. MORE PUBLIC FORUMS. I'M SAYING TO USE THOSE MEDIA TOOLS, SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE USE PRETTY WELL.

I'M GIVING MOLLY ALL THE CREDIT TO HER STAFF AND SLOWLY GET THIS OUT THERE, BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IS PEOPLE WHO GET MISINFORMATION, OKAY? BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW, AND I THINK YOU'RE BETTER TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE THAN BEHIND IT.

BUT WE'RE HUNG UP ON ONE PARAGRAPH.

OH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I AGREE AND WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

RIGHT. SO WHO WOULD.

LET'S HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO WRITE THIS PARAGRAPH AND HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF BUSINESS ON MONDAY.

LET ME JUST ASK THIS. WE'VE HAD A CITIZEN WHO HAS A VERY GOOD CHANCE OF BEING A COUNCIL PERSON ONCE THE VOTES ARE COMPLETELY TALLIED.

DO WE BRING JOY INTO THIS? FAMILIAR. YEAH, WE'RE IN A VERY GRAY AREA RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WOULD BE GLAD TO HAVE A COMMUNICATION FROM ANY OF THE CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO DO WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED.

I MY ONLY FEAR IS.

YEAH. THERE MAY BE A RULES OF PROCEDURE ON COUNCIL THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY APPOINT PEOPLE TO COMMITTEES, AND THAT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.

COMMENT IN THE ORDINANCE ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES, AND I THINK SUBCOMMITTEES CAN ONLY BE APPOINTED INTERNALLY OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

I THINK THAT'S A SAFE, I THINK, FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

THAT'S A SAFE ASSUMPTION TO MAKE.

NOW WRITTEN INPUT FROM A CITIZEN IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE COMMITTEE, I THINK WE'RE GUIDED BY THE ORDINANCE.

UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.

BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME, I'M MORE WILLING TO DO IT.

OKAY, OTHER QUESTION ON THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT.

DO YOU HAVE A VERSION THAT HAS ALL THE CHANGES IN IT OF LIKE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ON? NO, I HAVEN'T ASKED I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHANGES YET BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE AND THAT'S I'M HOPING TONIGHT WE CAN KIND OF GET SOME OF THOSE DONE BECAUSE I DON'T NEED THE CONSULTANT DOING MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF CHANGES.

SO IF WE'RE GOOD ON THE VISION STATEMENT FOR TONIGHT, THEN I'LL MOVE ON TO THE REST OF THE ITEMS, IF THAT'S OKAY.

YES. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ONE THING.

AND THE.

I'VE GOT YOUR COMMENTS IN THE IN THE PACKET TODAY.

I JUST WANTED TO RUN THROUGH AND MAKE SURE IF ANYBODY HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH ANY OF THOSE.

ONE THING I WOULD SAY LIKE WHERE WE FOCUS ON SHOULD OR OR TO EXTENT POSSIBLE, SOME THINGS LIKE THOSE, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE ON KIND OF A CASE BY CASE, BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST A GUIDING DOCUMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS.

AND I ALSO DON'T WANT TO FORCE THE CITY'S HANDS TOO MUCH AT THIS POINT.

SO THAT'S I WILL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THOSE.

BUT SOME OF THOSE MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE AND AND I I'M IN THE SAKE OF TIME.

I'M NOT WANTING TO DRIVE OR DIVE TOO DEEP INTO IT, BUT WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT NATIVE PLANTINGS AND KIND OF PUSHING THAT. I THINK WHAT I NEED TO KNOW TONIGHT FROM A COMMISSION STANDPOINT IS, DO WE WANT TO BE THAT SPECIFIC IN THIS DOCUMENT? BECAUSE IF WE DO, THEN THAT GREATLY AFFECTS ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS COMING UP.

IF WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT SPECIFIC, IT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY IN ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS COMING UP.

IF WE SAY IN THIS DOCUMENT WE ONLY WANT TO DO NATIVE PLANTINGS ONLY, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOUR LANDSCAPE PLANS OR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

[00:55:07]

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING FROM ONE COMMISSIONER.

SHE'S OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I NEED TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE COMMISSION IS OKAY WITH THAT BEFORE WE GO THAT ROUTE.

BUT DON'T WE HAVE A BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON MEDIANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? THEY ARE WORKING. IF WE NARROW THE SCOPE SO MUCH, THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING THEY'D HAVE TO DO BY WHATEVER ORDINANCE WE PASSED OR WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS.

I MEAN, WE SURELY WOULDN'T WANT BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCE.

RIGHT BUT IT MIGHT RESTRICT THEIR CREATIVITY, SO TO SPEAK.

I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP.

I MEAN FOR THE FIRST COUPLE THAT EITHER 1 OR 2.

AND I'VE LOOKED AT IT, I WAS ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS ON IT, AND MY ONLY SUGGESTION WAS THE MORE COLOR, THE BETTER.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL.

BUT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WHAT WE'VE GOT, SOMEBODY'S GOT THIS IDEA THAT YOU WANTED ZERO SCAPE, AND THERE'S MORE TO LANDSCAPE THAN JUST PUTTING COBBLE DOWN FOR A FEW DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THIS THING LOOKS SO.

I THINK I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH WES ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GOT GOT WRAPPED UP INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC WORDS HERE.

AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AT.

WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT WE DO ON THIS COMMISSION, AND WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT LOOKING AT DETAILS.

I KNOW I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT STEPPING BACK AND LOOKING AT THINGS FROM 50,000FT, AND I THINK THIS DOCUMENT IS ONE THAT'S UNUSUAL FROM WHAT WE NORMALLY ALL WORK WITH, IS THAT THIS IS LIKE FLYING OVER FROM DFW, AND THERE'S OTHER TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL AND STAFF TO DO THE DETAILS.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS FOR.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I CAN SEE WHERE THE WAY I WROTE MY SUGGESTION IS, IT'S TOO MUCH.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO ALL THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS JUST LIKE THE OPENING ACT, AN INTRODUCTION, AND IT ALLOWS STAFF AND THE CITY TO ADD THE DETAILS AS WE GO ALONG WITH THIS AS THE OVERALL BUBBLE. AND I'M AND I'M GUILTY OF DOING THE WELL THIS WORDS THIS AND I DON'T LIKE UNIQUE AND I DON'T LIKE THIS WORD AND, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUTTING NATIVE IN THE VISION.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE, IN THE LIKE SPECIFIC POLICIES AND ACTION ITEMS. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START SAYING IN A POLICY OR ACTION ITEM THAT WE WANT TO PUSH NATIVE PLANTING, IT I MEAN, IN SIX MONTHS, WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU WITH A LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND I DON'T HAVE NATIVE PLANTINGS IN THERE, THEN SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE MAY SAY, YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO.

I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I KNOW BECAUSE I'LL EXPLAIN MY MY SIDE OF IT AND WHAT I REMEMBER SEEING SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY.

AND I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THAT MEETING WE HAD INITIALLY WAS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING BEDFORD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND SO TO ME, IF I'M GOING, OKAY, WELL, THE ECOREGION THAT'S DIRECTLY NEXT TO US SHARES A TON OF SPECIES, AND THERE'S LESS THAN 1% OF THAT ECOREGION LEFT IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

AND SO WE HAVE THIS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEDFORD BEING UNIQUE, LIKE WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME REALLY, REALLY UNIQUE STUFF HERE.

AND TO BE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF NATIVE SPECIES, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE DYING OFF.

SO TO BE LIKE, OH, HERE'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MAGNOLIA, YOU DON'T GET TO LEARN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NATIVE, WHAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE TO BEDFORD AND TRUE TO HISTORY, WHAT WAS HERE.

AND SO TO ME, STICKING TO NATIVE ISN'T JUST LIKE, OH, LET'S JUST BE GREEN HIPPIES.

IT'S LIKE, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT PRESERVING IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, BECAUSE WE CAN BE WIPING IT OUT BY JUST PUTTING IN SOME MORE BERMUDA GRASS OR ALSO, YOU KNOW, WATER.

YOU KNOW, NOT WASTING WATER IN THOSE PLANTS DON'T REALLY NEED TO BE WATERED AFTER THEY'RE INITIALLY DONE.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ANGLE THAT I'M COMING OUT FROM IT.

AND SO MAYBE IT COULD BE SOMETHING OF A OF A COMPROMISE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONSIDER IN HERE STILL.

AND SO MAYBE IT'S A CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, USING NATIVE PLANTS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE, TO IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, DECREASE WATER USAGE, TO BE HERE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE THE LANGUAGE.

IF IF I COULD OFFER IF WE WOULD SAY, CONSIDER LANDSCAPING METHODS THAT WOULD DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE. YOU'D BE STUCK WITH NATIVE IS WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF IT.

[01:00:03]

SURE. AND WHERE I'M THINKING IS, AS WE'RE I'M IN MY MIND, I'M STARTING TO PREPARE THOSE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES.

I'M THINKING THAT WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THE NATIVE PLANTINGS AND SAY, LET'S SAY IF YOU IF YOU DO PROVIDE X, X PERCENTAGE OF, OF YOUR LANDSCAPING IS NATIVE, THEN MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SOMETHING ELSE OR SOMETHING.

IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE, AND THAT'S ALL DEVELOPMENT IS, IS A GIVE AND TAKE.

KIND OF LIKE WE DID ON THE TREE ORDINANCE.

EXACTLY. IF YOU DO THIS, YOU GET THIS.

IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, YOU GET YEAH, YOU GOT TO DO THAT.

IF YOU SAVE THIS, THIS BIG TREE, THEN YOU GET A CREDIT FOR THE OTHER TREES THAT YOU TAKE DOWN.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I GUESS COULD WE ADD THEN MAYBE SOME LANGUAGE THEN AT LEAST ABOUT LIKE AVOIDING WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? INVASIVE SPECIES.

SO STUFF THAT'S TAKING OVER, LIKE I'M SEEING CRAPE MYRTLES.

I'M LIKE, OH, GOOD GOD, WHOEVER TAKES THAT PROPERTY OVER IS STUFFED WITH CRAPE MYRTLES TILL THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, BIG BANG.

SO. SURE.

AND WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT SOME LANGUAGE THAT'S BROAD ENOUGH, LANGUAGE ABOUT INVASIVE SPECIES.

AND THOSE THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE EASY TO WORK AROUND.

IT'S I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE IDEA IS TO KEEP IT BROAD.

LIKE THE CHAIR SAID, LOOK AT IT FROM 50,000FT.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OKAY.

SO PRESERVING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

YEAH THAT THAT'S PERFECT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM US, EXCEPT FOR THE WORDS ON THE VISION STATEMENT, I THINK SO.

YEAH. AND MONDAY'S OKAY FOR YOU.

OH, SURE. MONDAY IS FINE.

WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL PUT THIS, WELL, LET ME ASK THIS TO THE COMMISSION.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE A ANOTHER VISION STATEMENT BEFORE YOU SEE THE FINAL DOCUMENT.

I DON'T. I TRUST MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

IF THE THREE OF THEM DECIDE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, THAT'S GOOD WITH ME.

ARE YOU SURE? YES.

WELL, THEY WOULD BE SEEING THAT PLUS THEY WOULD SEE THE FINAL VERSION OF ALL THE REST.

THEY'RE GOING TO SEE EVERYTHING.

YEAH. SO MEANING THAT BY I MEAN.

SO LET'S SAY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE THAT STATEMENT IN PLACE.

AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT I'LL HAVE THE FINAL DRAFT.

MY HOPE IS THEN I'LL BE PRESENTING THE FINAL DRAFT TO YOU ALL JUNE IS MY HOPE.

JOINT MEETING BETWEEN YOU AND COUNCIL.

OKAY. ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US A LIKE A TRACK CHANGES VERSION AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE WHAT CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CHAT? SURE. THAT SHOULD BE.

THAT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE. YEAH.

MR. [INAUDIBLE] WILL YOU BE THE LEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT THE REVISED DOCUMENT GETS TO WES ON MONDAY? YEAH. PERFECT.

THANK YOU ALL. OKAY.

UPDATE, SIR. I DO NOT HAVE A LOT.

[UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS]

THE CANE HALL BARRE ADDITION, THE MEDICAL OFFICE AT HARWOOD AND MARTIN.

THAT SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THEY I SUSPECT THEY WERE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

THE SCREENING WALL EXEMPTION WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

BYLAWS ARE BEING CORRECTED BASED ON THE CORRECTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAD.

THOSE WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND THEN I JUST GAVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS A TWO THINGS AT YOUR DESK WHEN YOU GOT HERE TONIGHT.

ONE NAME BADGES.

SO EVERYBODY NOW HAS AN OFFICIAL NAME BADGE.

YOU ARE OFFICIAL.

WEAR THOSE AT CITY EVENTS OR HERE TONIGHT AT MEETINGS HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT.

THE OTHER ITEM IS THAT THERE WAS A SHEET GOING AROUND.

IF YOU KNOW YOUR SHIRT SIZE AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH GIVING IT TO ME TONIGHT, GIVE THAT TO ME.

WE ARE GOING TO ORDER POLO SHIRTS FOR EACH COMMISSIONER.

IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE ORDERING IT FROM, BECAUSE THAT MAY DEPEND ON THE SIZE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

I CAN SEND OUT A LINK TOMORROW.

GIVING YOU THE EXACT SHIRT THAT WE'RE GOING TO ORDER.

AND THAT WAY YOU CAN DO THE YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

SO HOWEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE LITTLE THING I NOTICED THE OTHER DAY, JUST AS A REMEMBER THE THE ANIMAL BOARDING PLACE ON BROWN TRAIL.

IT APPEARS TO ALREADY BE CLOSED.

THE BACK ROOM WAS TOTALLY EMPTY.

THERE WAS NO HOURS.

THERE WAS NOBODY THERE AT 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

YOU CAN LOOK IN THE BACK WINDOWS AT THE END OF THE PARKING LOT THERE TOWARDS THE DOG AREA.

[01:05:02]

IT WAS JUST IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE PUTTING IN NEW FLOORING.

THERE WASN'T ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WAS THAT NEW LITTLE PLACE.

NOT THE CAT PLACE. YEAH.

NO, NO, NOT THE CAT PLACE.

THE THE FATHER DAUGHTER PLACE IT'S MAYBE BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, BUT IT APPEARS TO NOT BE OPEN ANYMORE.

AND I CALLED THE PHONE NUMBER, AND IT WASN'T IN BUSINESS ANYMORE.

IT'S JUST. IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING HOW SHORT SOMETIMES THE CYCLE OF BUSINESSES ARE, AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE THAT WE WRESTLED WITH A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS AND FOR THE GROOMING OF THING WHERE WE LIMITED HOURS OF ANIMALS OUTSIDE.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.

YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS APPARENTLY THEY'RE THEY'RE DONE.

ANYWAY THANK YOU.

WES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS WE GOT ONE MORE THING TO DO.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:06.

ALL RIGHT. GO MAVS AND STARS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.