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[CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL]
CALL TO ORDER THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BEDFORD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY, THURSDAY, APRIL 11TH, 2024.ALL OF THE DULY APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ETERNAL GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING AND ALL IN ATTENDANCE.
WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE US GUIDANCE THAT WE MAY BE WISE AND HUMBLE IN OUR DELIBERATIONS.
WELCOME, JENNIFER. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM IS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR MARCH 28TH MEETING, PLEASE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REVIEW AND NOTIFY US OF CHANGES TO CORRECTIONS.WHILE YOU FOLKS ARE DOING THAT TO ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF ENRIQUE OR EITHER ONE.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR GETTING OUR MINUTES POSTED TO THE WEBSITE? WE KNOW. ONCE.
OKAY. DO YOU HAVE SET FOR ME TONIGHT? I DO NOT.
ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES OF 28TH.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 28TH, 2024.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.
EIGHT MINUTES OF THE 28TH OF MARCH ARE APPROVED.
[2. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation to City Council regarding an amendment to Section 5.5.B entitled “Fences Abutting Incompatible Districts” of Chapter 5 of the Zoning Ordinance entitled "Supplemental District Regulations”. ]
SECTION 5.5 B ENTITLED FENCES ABUTTING INCOMPATIBLE DISTRICTS OF CHAPTER FIVE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ENTITLED SUPPLEMENTAL DISTRICT REGULATIONS. WELCOME TO THE PODIUM, WES.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSION MEMBERS, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A SCREENING WALL AND OTHER SCREENING REQUIREMENTS WHEN INCOMPATIBLE DISTRICTS ARE ADJOINING EACH OTHER, ABUTTING EACH OTHER. BUT WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR, THAT'S A COMMON PROVISION IN SCREENING REQUIREMENTS IS AN EXEMPTION PROCESS TO THAT. TYPICALLY, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS WITH DIFFERENT SITES, WHETHER IT BE TOPOGRAPHY OR FLOODPLAIN OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAY JUSTIFY A OR MAY NOT FULLY JUSTIFY A SCREENING WALL BEING THEIR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, BEING THERE.
AND, AND THAT'S A UNIQUE CONDITION WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE GRANTED A VARIANCE.
HOWEVER, OUR ORDINANCE IN THE DEFINITION OF VARIANCES IS VERY SPECIFIC.
IF I CAN SAY THAT WORD TONIGHT.
THEY CAN'T JUST GRANT A VARIANCE TO NO SCREENING WALL OR NO SCREENING ABSOLUTE TO THE SITE OR SO.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE A SETBACK VARIANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, THE VARIANCE WOULDN'T APPLY IN THIS CASE.
SO, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PROVIDED YOU WITH THE LANGUAGE TONIGHT THAT JUST SAYS THAT IN THE CASE THAT OF THE OF A. TOPOGRAPHY, A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE PROPERTY THROUGH A SITE PLAN REVIEW, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY RECOMMEND MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE A SITE PLAN WITH THE EXEMPTION OF A SCREENING WALL IF PROVEN THAT THAT UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE IS THERE.
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WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.WE DID NOTIFY WITHIN REQUIREMENTS FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, ASSUMING THAT P&Z RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, THIS WILL GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
IS THE STUFF THAT'S IN RED RECOMMENDED? YES. THAT IS THE CHANGED LANGUAGE.
YES, SIR. THIS IS WHAT I ASKED YOU.
I THINK THE LAST TIME IT'LL STOP HAVING TO GO TO ZBA FOR A VARIANCE.
IS THAT SO? IT'S NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO GO TO ZBA.
SO RIGHT NOW, FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND WITH THIS, WITHOUT THIS LANGUAGE HERE, THERE IS NO WAY FOR THEM TO NOT HAVE TO BUILD A SCREENING WALL, NO MATTER WHAT THE UNIQUE CONDITION IS.
ORDINANCE COULD HAVE CHANGED FROM THAT POINT.
OKAY. BUT A SIMPLE PASS THING.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING TO WES IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD ADVISE THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY CAME IN? BECAUSE LET'S SAY A GRADE OR TOP OFF AND BASICALLY SAY TO THEM, SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM STAFF THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A WALL BECAUSE OF THE. SURE.
WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS COMING THROUGH WITH THEIR PLANS, WE TOLD THEM THEY NEEDED A SCREENING WALL.
WELL, AFTER LOOKING AT IT AND THE APPLICANT PRESENTED US WITH SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WE STAFF AGREED IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE SIX-FOOT SCREENING WALL ON THAT SITE, WHEN THERE WAS ALREADY A 14-FOOT DIFFERENCE IN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.
SO, THAT'S WHAT DROVE THIS, THIS APPLICATION.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, I ENVISION IT WORKING THE SAME PROCESS IN FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
THE FINAL SENTENCE IN THE PROPOSED ADDITION ABOUT FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.
DOES THAT APPLY TO THE OTHER THREE PARAGRAPHS? DOES THAT APPLY TO THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH 5.5.
OR IS IT ONLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE ELEVATION CHANGES OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER? ISSUES? NO, IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THAT PARAGRAPH FOR THERE IN THE IN THE RED LINES THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU.
ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY, OR I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY OR DOESN'T GRANT YOU A AND P AND Z AND COUNCIL THE RIGHT TO APPROVE IT. IT HAS TO BE THAT UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE WITH THE PROPERTY.
NOT TO GO INTO KNOW ITS HISTORY.
BUT HAVEN'T WE DONE THAT ONCE ALREADY? NOT HAVE A SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL AND NON-CONFORMING USES ALLOWED BEFORE? THERE MAY BE, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PARTICULAR ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BUT I CAN THINK OF SOME CASES ESPECIALLY ONE COMES TO MIND WITH A CHURCH THAT WAS JUST ADDING ON, I BELIEVE, MAYBE 3000 SQUARE FOOT OUT OF A TOTAL OF TEN, 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
I MAY GET THOSE NUMBERS WRONG, BUT ROUGHLY THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
AND IN THAT CASE, THE THAT PARTICULAR ONE, IT WASN'T A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
IT ALSO WAS ALREADY A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE, AND THE ADDITION WASN'T CHANGING ANYTHING WITH THE NONCONFORMITY. SO, THEY HAD AN EXISTING FENCE JUST RIGHT, SIX-FOOT MASONRY.
RIGHT. SO, WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THE NEW BIG BUILDING, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO UPGRADE.
SO, IF IT'S THE ONE I'M THINKING OF, I DON'T I'M THINKING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OFF OF FOREST RIDGE WITH THE WITH THEIR WHOLE NEW BUILDING IN THE BACK THAT BORDERS THE, I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE IF THE FINANCIAL THING WENT NO FINANCIAL THING WOULDN'T.
THANKS. WE'LL OPEN OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TEXT AMENDMENT SCREENING EXEMPTION.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.
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DID EVERYBODY ENJOY THE ECLIPSE? OH, YEAH.AND THEN, OH MY, THAT WAS COOL.
ALL RIGHT. 611 WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM FOR.
CHAIRMAN EMERY, I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF AMENDING THAT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
[3. Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a site plan for Lot 1 of the Harwood Bedford Medical Office Village being 2.41 acres generally located at the southwest corner of Harwood Road and Martin Road intersection, commonly known as 3030 Harwood Road. (SITE-23-4)]
2.41 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HARWOOD ROAD AND MARTIN ROAD INTERSECTION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 3030 HARWOOD ROAD.THE LOT IN QUESTION IS LOT ONE FROM THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS FOR A 13,000 SQUARE FOOT PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.
RIGHT. IT'S INSIDE THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THIS SITE PLAN DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE SCREENING WALL.
ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU'VE GOT THE SITE PLAN THERE BEFORE YOU.
ACCESS IS LOCATED OFF OF BOTH HARWOOD AND MARTIN ROAD.
SCREENING BUFFER ALONG MARTIN ROAD IN HARWOOD.
AND THEN THEY ARE PROPOSING TO UTILIZE ON SITE DETENTION FOR STORMWATER DRAINAGE.
GETTING INTO THE SCREENING WALL EXEMPTION.
JUST WHAT WE KIND OF ALREADY BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON.
THE THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A 14-FOOT DIFFERENCE, APPROXIMATELY 14-FOOT DIFFERENCE WITH THE FROM WHERE THE GRADE OF THE PARKING LOT IS ON THE MULTIFAMILY TO THE PROPOSED FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION FOR THE PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING.
SO, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN WITH THE SCREENING WALL EXEMPTION.
RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, THE STAFF FINDINGS THERE, THE USE DOES COMPLY WITH ALL SECTIONS WITH ALL SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS, SECTIONS AND ZONING ORDINANCE.
MINUS THE SCREENING WALL REQUIREMENT.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL, IN CASE YOU HAVE DETAILED QUESTIONS.
WES. I NOTICED YOU HAVE THE SEWER BECAUSE IT IS.
GOT A LIFT STATION OR A PUMP STATION.
OKAY. WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT? THAT IS A PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
SO, IT DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN ALL THE IN ALL OF THE CIVIL PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT IS CLEARLY NOTED ON THERE THAT IT IS PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
OKAY. I JUST DON'T WANT THE CITY ENDED UP DOING THAT.
NEITHER DOES THE CITY. SO, WE UNDERSTAND.
OKAY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I MAY BE HAVING A MOMENT HERE.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS DECEMBER.
I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER 7TH.
OKAY, SO IT WAS KNOWN AS, I BELIEVE, KANE HALL BERRY ADDITION.
IF THAT RINGS A BELL TO YOU, IT'S BEEN ON OUR I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO BEEN ON OUR PROJECT UPDATE LIST.
ONLY REASON I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT THE BUILDING WAS SITUATED ON THE SITE AS IT IS.
WELL, THE BUILDING WOULDN'T BE SHOWN ON THE PLAT.
NO. SO THAT MAY THAT HELPS YOUR MEMORY A LITTLE BIT THEN.
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YOU. YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING THERE.OKAY, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
ANYBODY ELSE FOR WES RIGHT THIS MINUTE? THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
BROCK CORBETT WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING KANE HALL BERRY.
I AM AT 260 EAST DAVIS STREET IN MCKINNEY.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR OFFICIAL MASTER'S SHIRT ON TODAY? I DO, HAPPY MASTER'S DAY TO EVERYBODY.
SO, I HAVE A, MY QUESTION IS AFTER HAVING WALKED THE SIDE AND LOOKED OVER THERE, WHY IS THE BUILDING AGAINST THE APARTMENTS AS OPPOSED TO MOVING THE BUILDING UP TO WHERE IT FACES MARTIN DRIVE AND THE PARKING LOTS BEHIND IT, AND YOUR ACCESS ROAD GOES OFF OF HARWOOD DUE SOUTH, THEN WRAPS AROUND THE BUILDING TO COME OUT ON MARTIN.
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS ON THIS SITE IS A STREET AND A PARKING LOT.
WHY CAN'T WE MOVE THE BUILDING UP AGAINST THE TREE LINE ON MARTIN, BUT THE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, THAT MAKES AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND WRAPS THE DRIVEWAY IN THE PARKING LOT AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE APARTMENTS.
INSTEAD OF THROWING IT UP THERE AS THE ONLY THING YOU SEE FROM MARTIN AND HARWOOD IS PARKING LOT.
WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO FROM THEIR END WAS THEY PREFERRED FOR THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO FACE MARTIN AND THEY HAVE DOORS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY THE SIDE, BUT THEY WANTED THAT TO BE VISIBLE FROM HARWOOD AS WELL.
SO, THE FIRE LANE IS RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE APARTMENT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE REAR PORTION OF THE BUILDING, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONDENSER UNITS YOU KNOW, ROOF DRAIN SCUPPERS, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS APPEALING.
OKAY. SO THAT'S MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE PARKING LOT IS PRETTIER THAN THE BACK OF A BUILDING.
YEAH, WELL, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS PRETTIER THAN PLUS IT WOULD HAVE MOVED THE BUILDING FARTHER UP IN THE ELEVATION OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND EVEN FURTHER MITIGATED THE NEED FOR THE WALL TO THE APARTMENTS, BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH HIGHER IN THE GEOGRAPHY GOING TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT IN THE BUILDING UP THERE ON THE HIGH END ACROSS MARTIN.
YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. THE HIGH END OF THE SITE IS TOWARDS MARTIN.
YOU ARE RIGHT. AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR BUILDING UP THIS PAD.
SO IS THE I SAW THE ELEVATION PLANS AT THE BUILDING, BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR FOUNDATION, THE WEST END OF THE FOUNDATION IS GOING TO PRETTY MUCH BE LEVEL WITH THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE EAST PARKING LOT.
CORRECT. SO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A.
PRUETT. YEAH, WE HAVE A COUPLE RETAINING WALLS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALMOST TERRACED OFF.
BUT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, SO.
YEAH, IT'S JUST THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN WHERE THE WHERE THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SIT.
SO, YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, HVAC UNITS, YOU WOULD HAVE ROOF DRAINS, YOU WOULD HAVE UTILITY WALLS, ALL THESE THINGS THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AS PRETTY AS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. CAN I ASK MY QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE BUILDING IS? IS THIS STATION? YES, SIR. IT WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.
I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION THE CHAIRMAN DID, BUT YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION. THIS ON LANDSCAPE.
YOU'VE GOT PRINCETON, AMERICAN ELM.
I'M GOING TO I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THIS IS NOT SUBJECT TO DUTCH ELM DISEASE.
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I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON THAT.I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THAT ANSWER.
I CAN I MEAN, THAT'S DEVASTATED THE AMERICAN ELMS FOR DECADES.
AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S A HYBRID, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH PRINCETON.
I'D LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER BACK ON THAT.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN GET WITH WES AND HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS REACH OUT TO YOU ON THAT.
OKAY. I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, SO I'M NOT TOO AWARE WITH THE AMERICAN ELM SPECIES.
BUT YOU DO HAVE A KIMLEY-HORN.
YOU HAVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.
AND THEY PREPARED THIS PLAN AS WELL.
OKAY. WAS THERE A REASON THAT THEY CHOSE NELLIE R STEPHENS VERSUS, LET'S SAY, LITTLE JIM MAGNOLIAS? YOU DON'T KNOW THE REASON FOR THAT EITHER.
I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM ON THAT.
BUT I CAN GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
I WOULD PIGGYBACK ON ROGER'S COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LANDSCAPE.
MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SEE NATIVES INSTEAD OF SEEING, LIKE, BERMUDA GRASS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE BLUESTEM OR BUFFALO GRASS, SOMETHING THAT'S NATIVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GET MOWED AND KEEP ADDING TO STUFF THERE.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH DEAD, UGLY PLANTS WHEN THEY FREEZE.
OKAY. YEAH, I CAN HAVE THEM LOOK INTO THAT AND ALSO GET WITH WES AND GET YOU THAT AS WELL.
YEAH, I JUST LIKE THE BUILDING.
BUT WHAT HE'S SAYING IS ALL THE JUNK, HE TURNED AROUND, ALL THE JUNK IS GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE.
THERE'S NO INTEREST TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
I THOUGHT I READ THAT THE EXISTING TREES ALONG MARTIN UNDER THE POWER LINE, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVED OR REPLACED. AM I WRONG IN READING THAT? YES. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OR, I GUESS, THE PLANTING PLAN HERE THERE ARE A PORTION OF TREES THAT DUE TO GRADE CHANGES AND US HAVING TO MAKE UP THAT GRADE ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, BUT THEY WILL BE MITIGATED AND REPLACED PER THE CITY'S ORDINANCE.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE TREES NEXT THAT APARTMENT BUILDING NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY? I MEAN, THEY HAVE BEEN BUTCHERED.
WELL, THESE ALONG, MARTIN, DON'T LOOK VERY HEALTHY EITHER.
GOING OUT LIKE THIS. WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN CUTTING.
BUT I MEAN, THOSE ONES IN FRONT OF THAT APARTMENT JUST LOOK HORRENDOUS.
YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO FIX THEIR PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONERS. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF WE HAVE ONE.
SINCE THIS IS A BY RIGHT SITUATION, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE IT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
RIGHT. PLAT HAS BEEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED FOR SITE 23-4 ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
FINALLY, AT THEIR NEXT, WE GET THIS PROPERTY TAKEN CARE OF.
NO MORE HORSES. THANK YOU, SIR.
[4. Receive an update regarding code amendment options related to automobile repair uses within Bedford Commons PUD and direct staff accordingly. ]
HI. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.SO, I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY.
BACK IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE YOU HEARD A, OR I SAY THIS PROPERTY, THIS THIS TOPIC IS PROPERTY SPECIFIC YET TONIGHT, BUT BACK IN DECEMBER, YOU HEARD A SUP OR.
I'M SORRY, REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY THAT AT THAT POINT, REMOVING IT OUT OF BEDFORD COMMONS AND ALLOWING AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE TO GO IN.
P&Z RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THAT REQUEST.
IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY AND IN AT THAT MEETING.
AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE AND COUNCIL THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THE APPLICATION AND COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO DRAFT UP AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD TRY TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYBODY'S GOALS.
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EVERYBODY'S GOALS ARE MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF BEDFORD COMMONS AND ALLOWING THE USE TO BE ALLOWED WHILE MAINTAINING THAT CHARACTER.SO, STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT.
THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS REALLY TWOFOLD.
SO, I WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU.
AND THEN TWO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF THE USE THAT WE PROPOSED.
AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ONES IN THERE.
SO, I WANT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON THAT AS WELL.
SO, WITH THAT BEING BEFORE BEING SAID, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET INTO THE MEAT OF IT? WELL, LET'S HEAR WHAT YOU GOT.
SO AGAIN, SO THE AMENDMENT PROCESS FIRST PART, FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS IS WE'VE GOT TO CREATE A DEFINITION, THE DEFINITION THAT WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO DO AND TO MEET THOSE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE, OF BEDFORD COMMONS DOESN'T EXIST IN OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD AMEND OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE AND PLACE A DEFINITION IN THERE.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION NEXT.
SO, I THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I WANTED TO TRY TO SEPARATE THE TWO OUT.
BEDFORD COMMONS HAS ITS OWN PERMITTED USES.
BEDFORD COMMONS KIND OF HAS ITS OWN ZONING MAP.
AND SO, I'VE GOT KIND OF I'LL GO INTO THE DETAIL OF THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USES CHART IN BEDFORD COMMONS TO ALLOW THE USE WITHIN SUP.
IT WOULD JUST BE WITHIN BEDFORD COMMONS.
OKAY. SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT DEFINITIONS.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, THE FIRST DEFINITION ON TOP OF THE SCREEN IS ESSENTIALLY JUST ALLOWS THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING, FABRICATION, REFURBISHMENT OF AN ANTIQUE OR VINTAGE VEHICLE TO ITS ORIGINAL WORKING CONDITION.
IT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ACTIVITIES SUCH AS STORAGE, CARE, REPAIR, REFINISHING, MOTOR VEHICLES, BOTH MINOR AND MAJOR MECHANICAL OVERHAULING PAINT AND BODY WORK. THE FIRST DEFINITION YOU SEE SAYS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DEFINITION, AN ANTIQUE CAR IS DEFINED AS MANUFACTURED 1975 OR EARLIER, AND A VINTAGE CAR IS MANUFACTURED BETWEEN 1919 AND 1930.
THE SECOND DEFINITION IS RELATIVELY THE SAME, EXCEPT IT DEFINES AN ANTIQUE CAR AS DEFINED BY THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE, WHICH, AS IT SITS TODAY SAYS A CAR THAT IS MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF AGE.
SO, THAT'S KIND OF I MEAN, THERE'S A BIG DISTINCTION THERE BECAUSE A CAR THAT'S 25 YEARS OF AGE COULD BE A 1999 AT THIS POINT.
SO, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT DOES P AND Z AND WHAT DOES COUNCIL WANT TO SEE? THE I GUESS I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY. DO WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEFINITION FIRST OR DO WE JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH.
AND I'M GETTING A HEAD NOD FROM THE CHAIR.
THE SECOND PARAGRAPH SUGGESTION HERE TO MEET THE CODE 25 YEARS OR OLDER.
HOW DOES THAT PLAY? DOESN'T THAT READ? CLOSE TO THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOPS AND GARAGES AS PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY OR SECONDARY USE.
IT'S ALREADY A USE IN THE LIST OF SCHEDULED USES WHERE HOW MUCH WOULD THOSE TWO OVERLAP? OBVIOUSLY, A PLACE THAT'S GOING TO REPAIR WOULD FIX MY 98 FORD TRUCK.
THAT FALLS INTO THE 25-YEAR-OLD THING.
SO HOW DOES THIS SECOND PARAGRAPH AND THE EXCLUDED USE OF THAT'S ON THE LIST OF USES CURRENTLY? HOW WILL THOSE TWO MESH? I DON'T THINK THEY WILL.
SO, ALL THIS IS DOING IS THAT DEFINITION ESSENTIALLY WILL THIS EXCLUDES THE DEFINITION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT IS NOT ALLOWED RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S ANY VEHICLE, NO MATTER THE AGE.
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THIS PUTS AN AGE LIMIT ON THE VEHICLE.OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
OKAY, BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME TO US AND SAID, I ONLY WORK ON, YOU KNOW, OLDER CARS WOULD BE.
NO. BUT IF WE ADOPTED THIS SECOND PARAGRAPH.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.
OKAY. I DON'T RECALL WHEN WE FIRST HEARD THIS, THAT THEY WERE INDICATING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ANTIQUE CARS AND VERSUS JUST A REPAIR.
AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, THANKFULLY THE APPLICANT IS HERE SO HE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HIS BUSINESS. BUT YOU'RE I BELIEVE YOUR MEMORY IS CORRECT.
THAT WAS THE GOAL THAT IT WOULD BE ANTIQUE CARS.
IT'S JUST THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE DEFINE WHAT AN ANTIQUE CAR IS? OKAY, WELL, LET ME LET ME ASK YOU THIS IN A SENSE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT BEDFORD COMMONS IS GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN LOOK TO IT.
WILL YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY WE LIKE ONE OF THESE DEFINITIONS THAT THIS BUILDING THAT HE HAS THAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO WILL HAVE A CERTAIN LOOK THAT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMONS.
SO, BEDFORD COMMONS ALREADY HAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENT.
AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE'S BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THIS.
BUT. PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT HE HAS OR THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE, IS ALREADY BUILT.
SO, THERE'S SOME EXISTING NON-CONFORMITIES THERE THAT WE'VE GOT TO LIVE WITH.
BUT WE IN OUR CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE'S WILLING TO DO SOME PARKING LOT SCREENING AND OTHER LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER THINGS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
COMING UP WITH THIS DEFINITION.
HOW DOES IT SPECIFICALLY PROTECT THE DESIRED CHARACTER OF BEDFORD COMICS? IT SAYS, COME UP WITH A DEFINITION AND THEN USE IT TO PROTECT.
THE BEDFORD COMMENTS. AND THEN I ALSO DIDN'T SEE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO, THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS THAT THE DEFINITION, YOU'RE RIGHT IS NOT GOING TO REALLY PROTECT THE CHARACTER. HOWEVER, THOSE SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WILL PROTECT THE CHARACTER.
AND THAT'S I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THEM TOGETHER.
SO, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT'S ASPECT RIGHT NOW.
JUST TO CLARIFY SOME SIMPLICITY WISE, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS TO PICK ONE OF THESE TWO PARAGRAPHS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK IT TONIGHT, BUT I MEAN, I'D LIKE I WOULD LOVE SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN GET MOVING ON THE AMENDMENT.
THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ANOTHER USE IN THE LISTING OF SCHEDULE OF USES FOR THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD, IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS ONE RIGHT.
SO, PART OF THIS IS ME BRINGING IT TO YOU ALL AND SAYING, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE DEFINITION THAT WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE? SO, I MEAN, THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SO. WELL, AS YOU PRESENTED THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BEDFORD COMMON BEFORE IN THE PAST, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING DIVERSE WE WANT TO BRING IN THE ARTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I THINK THE FIRST PARAGRAPH FITS THAT BETTER THAN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
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THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, IN MY OPINION, SOUNDS MORE LIKE A STANDARD REPAIR SHOP.AND THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE SPECIALIZED.
I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST FEELS TO ME LIKE IT FITS A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THE DEFINITION.
I'LL LET THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE APPLICANT WHEN WE HAVE MR. MURRAY COME UP AND SPEAK TO US A LITTLE BIT AND WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HEAR ALL OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS BUSINESS AT THE PNC MEETING THAT WAS DELINEATED IN THE SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO. WELL, I CERTAINLY SAVED YOU ALL.
THE CIRCUS I HAD AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
YEAH. BUT WE'RE THE FIRST BIG TENT.
WELL, IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS IN THE FIRST BIG TENT, ANYWAY, IF YOU PLEASE.
FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US.
HEATH MURRAY, 1609 HEATHER LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
OKAY, SO, MR. JACOBSEN I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT WOULD ENLIGHTEN US A LOT AS TO WHICH WHETHER THERE WOULD THAT THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH WOULD BE TOO RESTRICTIVE WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
SO, AS FAR AS MY BUSINESS IS CONCERNED, WE DON'T WORK ON ANYTHING NEWER THAN 1970.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY RARE THAT WE WORK ON ANYTHING NEWER THAN ABOUT 1968.
I DO PROTOTYPE WORK FOR A FOR VEHICLE MANUFACTURER, BUT I DON'T EVER HAVE THEIR VEHICLES ON SITE, WHICH WOULD BE A 2024 MODEL.
BUT I DO GET INTO VEHICLE PROTOTYPING FOR MANUFACTURERS.
WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT FALL INTO THIS.
SO, YOUR ANSWER IS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH WOULD BE TOO RESTRICTIVE.
THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IN A SENSE.
SO, HERE'S THE DEAL. THE FIRST THE FIRST DEFINITION RESTRICTS IT TO 1975 OKAY.
20 YEARS FROM NOW OR 25 YEARS FROM NOW, 30 YEARS FROM NOW IS 1975, OR IS A 1990 MODEL NOT GOING TO BE A CLASSIC COLLECTOR CAR? CAN I NOT WORK ON A 1995 FERRARI AND 2040? GOOD POINT. YOU COULDN'T WORK UP A 1967 IMPALA THAT I WOULD LIKE.
SO, IT WOULD THAT WOULD NOT FIT THAT DEFINITION.
SO, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH HAVING IT RESTRICTED TO 1975 AND OLDER.
SO, THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH, IN YOUR VIEW, LIMITATIONS WITH RESPECT TO BOTH PARAGRAPHS.
I WORK ON SPECIALTY AND CLASSIC CARS.
I WORK ON ANYTHING SOMEONE'S GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON, ESSENTIALLY.
BUT NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING NEW.
I JUST HAD A VERY BIG-NAME BASKETBALL STAR THAT I TURNED AROUND.
I TURNED HIM DOWN LITERALLY A MONTH AGO BECAUSE I DIDN'T.
IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF CAR I WANTED TO WORK ON.
SO, THEY WENT AND BOUGHT THE TYPE OF CAR THAT I TOLD THEM I WOULD WORK ON FOR ME TO WORK ON IT.
SO, WE'RE PRETTY RESTRICTIVE AS IT IS.
IF YOU HAVE A 1990S LAMBORGHINI OR FERRARI THAT NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AM I GOING TO TURN THAT AWAY? I DON'T WANT TO.
I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I'M STILL GOING BACK TO THE LOOK OF THE COMMONS.
AND IF YOU WENT TO REMODEL, OKAY, YOU HAD TO GO WITH THE LOOK OF THAT PARTICULAR TOWN.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LOOK OF BEDFORD COMMONS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT.
BUT YOU'RE DEALING IN HIGH END EXPENSIVE CARS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING BIG BUCKS.
WOULD YOU HAVE A PROBLEM? AND I KNOW THIS IS DOWN THE COURSE OF A FACADE THAT WOULD LOOK BLEND IN WITH BEDFORD COMMONS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
OKAY, SO DO I WANT TO TEAR DOWN A PORTION OF MY BUILDING TO RESHAPE IT, TO MATCH BEDFORD COMMONS? NO. OKAY.
BUT AS FAR AS THE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE BUILDING AND LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I'VE BEEN MORE THAN ACCOMMODATING TO MATCH EVERY ASPECT OF BEDFORD COMMONS. OKAY, BUT YOU WOULDN'T CHANGE THE FACADE, IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
I MEAN, ARE YOU TELLING ME TO COMPLETELY RESHAPE THE BUILDING TO LOOK VICTORIAN STYLE?
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THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FRONT TO THE BUILDING.AND WOULD IT BE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE REST OF.
TURNS OUT TO BE AUTOMOTIVE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE REST IT'S COMPATIBLE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
I'M NOT SAYING ABSOLUTELY I WANT IT TO LOOK COMPATIBLE.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE WILLING TO DO A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST LANDSCAPE? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
YEAH, AND I CAN'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT THERE.
BUT THAT'S I MEAN I HAVE A CONCRETE TILT WALL BUILDING.
SO, YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK AND BRICK THE FRONT OF IT? AND YOU. I MEAN, IT'S ALL RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ON THAT.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT'S MODELED AFTER IS A BENTLEY DEALERSHIP.
SO, I WOULD CERTAINLY ASSUME THAT FITS BEDFORD COMMONS.
SHOULD WE GET TO THAT THAT POINT.
SO, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
ANOTHER LATER STEP IN THE PROCESS THAT WES MENTIONED THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
AND THAT WILL BE SETTING YOU BACK TO ANTIQUES AFTER A FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW.
SO RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT EVEN WORKS IS THE SECOND ONE.
MAYBE A DECISION IN HOW MANY YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF THE MODEL YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT THE TEXAS CODE DOES, RIGHT? IT FOLLOWS EVERY YOU KNOW, IT'S 25 YEARS OLDER.
AND THAT WOULD JUST SLIDE THROUGH THE CALENDAR AS YEAR GOES BY.
SO JUST FOR CHANGE, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, HELP US WITH.
IF YOU WERE BEING INTERVIEWED, YOU DO IN A COMMERCIAL.
TELL US WHAT YOUR BUSINESS DOES.
WHAT DOES MURRAY CUSTOM? YOU KNOW, CAR RIDES.
WHAT DOES YOUR BUSINESS DO? WE HAND BUILD ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC CARS.
WE WILL REMAKE LITERALLY EVERY PART OF THE CAR.
WE WE HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY IN OUR BUSINESS.
A LOT OF TOOLS THAT A LOT OF PLACES DO NOT HAVE.
I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
AND REBUILD IT TO A NEW STATE.
OKAY. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR CUSTOM PARTS MANUFACTURING FACILITY? WELL, IT'S PART OF THE BUILDING OF THE CARS.
IT'S ONE IN THE SAME, ESSENTIALLY.
SO, WE UTILIZE THE SAME EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE ON BUILDING CARS.
WE MAKE CUSTOM PARTS AND I SHIP THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
OKAY. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC WELDING FACILITY.
PUBLIC WELDING FACILITY? YES, SIR. WHERE YOU DO WELDING FOR CUSTOMERS.
AS FAR AS I, YOU ADVERTISE THAT YOU DO TIG WELDING FOR ANY COMPANIES YOU KNOW, OR INDUSTRIES OR WHATEVER. ASIDE FROM YOUR CARS.
TELL US ABOUT THAT PART OF YOUR BUSINESS.
WELL, WE KIND OF REALLY DON'T.
WE DON'T REALLY DO A WHOLE LOT OF, LIKE, SMALL JOBS, PER SE.
SO, I CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT A THREE YEAR WAIT LIST.
OKAY WITH ABOUT 160 CARS ON IT CURRENTLY.
OKAY. BUT THE, THE, THE AEROSPACE AND THE AVIATION AND THE INDUSTRIAL WELDING, IS THAT STILL A PART OF YOUR BUSINESS? I HAVEN'T DONE THAT SINCE 2009.
WELL, YOUR 2023 COMPANY INFORMATION DIDN'T INDICATE THAT.
OKAY. SO, I JUST TRYING TO RUN DOWN THROUGH THE THINGS THAT YOUR BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY DOING.
I MEAN THAT WOULD, THAT'S THE CARS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER BASICALLY KIND OF WHAT I SPOKE TO EARLIER., I'M DOING THE PROTOTYPE WORK FOR LIKE ONE OF THE VEHICLES OR COMPANIES I'M WORKING FOR RIGHT NOW IS CALLED CANOE.
THERE ARE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS.
SO, I'M MAKING ALL KINDS OF PROTOTYPE SUSPENSION.
THAT'S A NEW CAR THAT'S BEING BUILT.
SO, I'M BUILDING PROTOTYPE STUFF FOR THAT COMPANY.
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FOR THE US GOVERNMENT AND THEN ALSO BASICALLY THAT WON'T FIT IN ANY OF THOSE DEFINITIONS.WELL, I'M NOT WORKING ON THE ACTUAL CAR.
I DON'T HAVE THE CAR AT MY FACILITY.
OKAY. LITERALLY JUST MAKING A PART FROM DRAWINGS.
WE'VE TALKED. THAT'S NOT RESTORATION.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, EXPLAINED ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT OR.
I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, IT FALLS ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE WHEN YOU APPEARED BEFORE US BEFORE.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT WHY IS THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO LOCATE THERE? I THINK YOU TOLD US, BUT I DON'T RECALL.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD REFRESH OUR MEMORY.
WHY THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND BUILDING? WELL, I'VE BEEN VERY CLOSE, HAVE HAD A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SMITH FAMILY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
BASICALLY, THE SMITHS OWN THE PROPERTY AND TWO WEEKS I OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT THE LOCATION TO THE HARLEY STORE, PROXIMITY TO THAT AND LUCKY PENNY.
WE'RE A COMPLIMENTARY BUSINESS TO ALL THAT.
OKAY. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ALSO GETS ME OUT OF DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.
IT MOVES ME TO THE GREAT CITY OF BEDFORD.
OKAY, YOU DON'T HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE WALKING AROUND OUT HERE, SO THAT'S A PLUS.
I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER.
CUTS MY DRIVE DOWN FROM 30 MINUTES A DAY, PLUS ALL THE TRAFFIC.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE HOUSE COST IS HERE IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD? I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S AROUND 250.
OKAY. YOU PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT WELL.
WELL, THEY MAKE PRETTY GOOD MONEY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MR. MURRAY. YES, SIR.
APPRECIATE IT. AND HERE COMES STAFF.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS.
BUT IF YOU OR IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT DEFINITION MORE, WE CAN.
FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD; IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH BOTH OF THOSE.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF LOOKING AT THE FIRST DEFINITION, IF WE SIMPLY LEFT OFF THE LAST SENTENCE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW AND THAT WOULD I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU DO IN THE FIRST SENTENCE, AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING, BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH FOR.
WHY DO WE NEED NECESSARILY THAT LAST SENTENCE? IT COMES DOWN TO AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT BECAUSE WHO'S INTERPRETATION IS GOING TO DEFINE WHAT AN ANTIQUE AND VINTAGE VEHICLE IS AT THAT POINT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DEFINE SOMEHOW WHAT THAT IS.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU MAY CALL A VINTAGE VEHICLE, MR. MURRAY MAY NOT. SO, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A YEAR'S AGE DIFFERENCE? IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN QUANTIFY, RIGHT? I MEAN, SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE.
IT CAN'T JUST BE LEFT UP TO AN INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION.
WE CAN EASILY DEFINE THAT AND MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITH.
OKAY. IF IT SAID IT WAS, THE CAR HAD TO BE 30 YEARS OLD OR OLDER WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU WANT TO PUT IF YOU WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE STATE DEFINITION AND YOU WANT TO DO IF YOU PICK AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, WE COULD DO THAT TOO.
YEAH, I THINK THAT MIGHT WORK.
SO, MY NEXT QUESTION TO THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE WHAT'S THAT NUMBER? I MEAN 25 IS NOT IT.
AND I'M NOT TRYING I'M JUST TRYING TO PINPOINT SOMETHING I'M NOT SURE WOULD BE MY MY OPINION WOULD BE PERSONAL OPINION WOULD BE THAT WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO OUR OWN NUMBER. THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTION THAT DELINEATES AND DEFINES THOSE COULD CHANGE OVER TIME, AND OUR ORDINANCE WOULD CONSTANTLY.
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TIED SPECIFICALLY TO ANYTHING EXCEPT THIS GROUP.THAT INCORPORATING THIS TEXAS CODE THEN ALLOWS THIS THING TO LIVE ON FOREVER AT WHATEVER THAT IS.
UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED STANDARD FOR ANTIQUE VEHICLES.
DOES THAT MAKE SOME SENSE? YEAH. GIVING IT.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD. THAT'S HOW I WOULD SEE IT.
EVEN LET'S SAY THEY DECIDED TO MAKE IT.
THEY DECIDED TO MAKE IT 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, TO GET BACK INTO, TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK INTO, YOU KNOW, 90S PRE, YOU KNOW, PREMODERN CARS.
THAT MIGHT BE I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M LEANING IS JUST USE THE CODE DEFINITION.
SO, WE'RE NOT MAKING UP OUR OWN.
THE ANTIQUE ONE IS ONLY 25 YEARS FOR TEXAS.
YES. SO THAT'S I GUESS MY OTHER MY OTHER CONCERN TOO IS THE COMMENT THAT PARTS ARE BEING MADE FOR OTHER VEHICLES WHICH WOULD NOT FALL INTO EITHER ONE OF THESE. EVEN.
EVEN IF YOU JUST CALL IT ANTIQUE.
IF YOU'RE MAKING PARTS FOR NEW CARS.
THAT THAT DOESN'T FALL INTO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO SAY IT, BUT I'M NOT MAKING PARTS.
THE NUMBER OF NEW PARTS I'M MAKING.
I WOULD SAY IT'S LESS THAN HALF PERCENT OF MY BUSINESS.
OKAY. WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE REST OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
THE REST IS VERY HOPEFULLY EASY, BUT I'LL JUMP INTO IT REAL QUICK.
AND THIS IS GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
BEDFORD COMMENTS HAVING ITS OWN ZONING MAP.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW CLEAR I WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT THE MAP YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE MAP OF ENTIRE BEDFORD COMMONS.
AND EACH OF THOSE SHADES OF RED AND YELLOW IDENTIFY AN ESSENTIALLY, THEY CALL THEM CHARACTER ZONES IN BEDFORD COMMONS, BUT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE CALL ZONING DISTRICTS. AND SO, WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE'LL BE AMENDING THE LAND USE CHART.
THAT'S, AND THIS IS TAKEN AGAIN RIGHT OUT OF BEDFORD COMMONS PD.
AND WE'D BE PUTTING THE AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING AND RESTORATION LAND USE IN THERE WITH AN SUP IN THOSE THREE DISTRICTS. NOW, I WANT TO JUMP BACK TO THE MAP REAL QUICK.
YOU'LL SEE WHERE THOSE THREE DISTRICTS ARE THERE IN THE CORE MIXED USE, WHICH IS KIND OF THAT DARKER RED AREA ALONG PARKWOOD INCLUDES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
ALSO INCLUDES THE PINKISH PEPTO-BISMOL PINK AREA.
THAT'S THE REGIONAL RETAIL AND EMPLOYMENT AND ALWAYS ALSO INCLUDES THE HIGHWAY MIXED USE.
SO, THAT'S WHERE STAFF CAME FROM.
JUST KEEP IN MIND THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
HAVE I CONFUSED YOU ENOUGH? NOW CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
WE'RE CREATING A UNIQUE ZONING FOR THIS BUSINESS.
NO, WE'RE NOT. NO, WE ARE AMENDING THE PUD, THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD TO ALLOW IT.
THEY WOULDN'T BE BOUND BY THIS.
THEY'D HAVE THE SAME ENTITLEMENTS THAT MR. MURRAY WOULD. BUT IF THEY WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEY'D HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY JUST LIKE OKAY. I WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONFORMING USE UNDER THE AMENDED PUD.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SUPS IN THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN ANSWER IT REALLY FAST.
OKAY. AND WHAT ARE THEY? LET ME JUST RUN DOWN THE LIST REAL QUICK.
CHURCHES? PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS.
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ACTIVE ON THE BOOKS. ACTIVE ON THE BOOKS.OKAY, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHEN I'M LEADING UP TO IN A ZONING ISSUE IS SPOT ZONING.
NOW, IF WE ALLOW THIS AND I WANT TO PASS OUT TO COMMISSIONERS SOME DEFINITIONS.
WILL YOU HAND THAT TO THE ATTORNEY AS WELL.
BEDFORD COMMONS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEIR SUPS AGAINST THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I MEAN, ROGER OR NO, THERE'S ONE FOR WEST.
MAYBE I MISREAD THE SUP PROCESS IS THE SAME.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN IT'S INSIDE BEDFORD COMMONS.
THE ITEMS THAT NEED AN SUP ARE UNIQUE TO THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD, AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL CITY ZONING.
SO BECAUSE WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HUGE DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF BEDFORD COMMONS AND.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN EMPTY SINCE 1971 OR WHATEVER.
LIKE ROGER MENTIONED, THE METRO RAIL OR WHATEVER THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BACK THEN.
BEDFORD COMMONS, THE FIRE STATION IS GOING TO BE MOVED.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND BUILDING B IS GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE, EMPTY OR GOING SOON TO BE EMPTY.
AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS IN THE PROCESS.
SO, THESE FOLKS HAVE MOVED TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING IN BEDFORD COMMONS.
NOW, SEVERAL OF US WENT TO SCHOOL BACK IN JULY THAT YOU SENT US TO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WITH SPOT ZONING AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION IT'S A ZONING REZONING OF PROPERTY THAT BENEFITS A SPECIFIC TRACT OF LAND WITH THE USE CLASSIFICATION THAT IS LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN PROVIDED BY THE ORIGINAL ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT VIOLATES STATE LAW REQUIREMENT ZONING BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THUS, SPOT ZONING IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT'S AN ARBITRARY DEPARTURE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NOW, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE MAY BE LOOKING AT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF TIME, AND WHAT WE WANT IN BEDFORD COMMONS, THE VISION OF EVERYBODY SO FAR.
THERE'S ANOTHER DEFINITION OF SPOT ZONING.
WHEN THE REZONING IS USUALLY AT ODDS WITH THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN AND CURRENT ZONING RESTRICTIONS.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT OCCURS WHEN ZONING REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR SOME SPECIFIC EXCEPTION TO ITS REGULATIONS, PROVIDED THAT A LANDOWNER RECEIVES SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE LOCAL ZONING AUTHORITY.
AN EXAMPLE OF SPECIFIC EXCEPTION INCLUDES A CHURCH AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WAS A NEIGHBOR THERE. WE ACTUALLY SUED THE CITY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PURSUE IT, BUT THAT LAND WAS ZONED ONE WAY.
YES, IT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD BECAUSE IT WAS A WATER TOWER.
I GET IT, THIS IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
AND I'M SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD PROBABLY GIVE US A LEGAL OPINION AS TO WHAT IF THIS IS.
I KNOW YOU ALL LOOKING AT EACH OTHER.
MAYBE IF YOU ARE AND DISCUSS THIS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WANT TO BRING THIS UP.
YOU'D LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING.
IF WE'RE. THIS IS A DISCUSSION, CORRECT? IS THAT IT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
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IT'S, YOU'RE THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN THAT'S ADOPTED DOES NOT THIS IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE CURRENT ADOPTED MASTER PLAN.WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS A PROPOSED MASTER PLAN THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN ADOPTED.
AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT JENNIFER ON THE SPOT, BUT I'M GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I'VE HEARD BRYNN SAY IN COUNCIL MEETINGS BEFORE ABOUT OTHER LAND USE ITEMS IS THAT WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHAT WE MIGHT ADOPT IN THE FUTURE FOR CURRENT APPLICATIONS.
AND JENNIFER, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
I MEAN, AN SUP IS NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN, IT'S NOT SPOT ZONING.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? AND SO, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD NECESSARILY BE APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON RECORD.
I MEAN EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF KNOWS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, BUT THAT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THE FUTURE? SO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. I DON'T THINK SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT NOTATION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY VOTING ON THE WORDING OF THIS AMENDMENT.
THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION.
THERE IS NO VOTE POSTED ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
SO, FOR TONIGHT WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
I WOULD FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION OR COMMENT OR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THIS USE.
I THINK [INAUDIBLE] IS APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THE [INAUDIBLE] SPREADS IT INTO AREAS THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T WANT IT TO.
IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO HAVE IT ON TWO THOROUGHFARES, BUT NOT INSIDE THE CORE OF THE PUD.
YOU AND THE [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE THE TWO PLACES WHERE THEY, IF THIS WAS TO GO FORWARD, THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP IN THOSE TWO AREAS. I WOULD AGREE.
AND I'D ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO GO WITH LANGUAGE THAT IS FOR THE TWO OPTIONS.
THE ONE THAT IS, I THINK THE LESS RESTRICTIVE.
I DON'T MIND PUTTING A DATE OF 30 YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW CARS PRIOR TO 30 YEARS AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THAT SIMPLY OPENS IT UP.
I THINK THE OTHER FIRST PARAGRAPH WAS DATE RESTRICTIVE WOULD REQUIRE US TO CHANGE IT EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS, UPDATE THE DATES AND.
SO. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.
I GUESS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT? WHY WOULD WE NEED THIS DEFINITION COMPARED TO ANY OTHER AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR? BECAUSE I'M LIKE, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME SOUND, THE SAME INDUSTRIAL HAPPENINGS AS YOU WOULD ANY OTHER CAR REPAIR SHOP.
WHETHER YOUR CAR IS A FORD FOCUS OR, YOU KNOW, AN OLD CORVETTE.
LIKE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO WHY WOULD WE NEED A NEW DEFINITION TO SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO IT IF YOUR CARS ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE, BUT IF IT'S JUST A REGULAR CAR SHOP, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
LIKE WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? WHY DOES ONE FIT AND ONE DOESN'T? I THINK COUNCIL'S CONCERN WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT A WAY TO ALLOW THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, BUT NOT OPEN IT UP TO ALL AUTOMOTIVE REPAIRS.
BUT IF I WAS AN AUTO REPAIR GUY, LIKE, WOULD THAT NOT BE ANY POTENTIAL LEGAL KICKBACK FROM THEM SAYING, WELL, YOU LET THEM IN, THEIR CARS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, SO WHY DID THEY GET TO COME WHEN I'M ALSO DOING THE SAME? I DON'T THINK SO. THERE'S TWO DISTINCT, I MEAN, I GET THE OVERALL AND I SHARE YOUR OPINION.
THE OVERALL USE IS REALLY THE SAME.
DIFFERENT AGE OF VEHICLE AT THAT POINT.
AND I THINK THAT'S DISTINCTIVE ENOUGH THAT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD GET IN TROUBLE LEGALLY.
AND I AND AS I SAID, THE ATTORNEYS REVIEWED THESE, SO THEY DIDN'T FIND THAT PROBLEM.
OKAY, I GUESS I JUST CAN'T I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT PIECE.
AROUND WHY IT'S ANY DIFFERENT.
WHY THE EXISTING DEFINITION FOR AUTO REPAIR SHOP? IT'S JUST TO RESTRICT IT FROM THE AGE OF THE VEHICLE.
THERE'S ALSO A, YOU'RE FACING IT SO FAR DOWN TO OF AN ESCORT IN A CORVETTE.
WE CAN MAKE THE S CORP, WHEREAS.
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YOU THINK IT'S PEP BOYS? THEY CHANGE PARTS.WE CAN LITERALLY MAKE THE PARTS, THE BODY.
IT'S MORE OF AN ART THAN IT IS A IT'S NOT A MECHANIC SHOP.
THE PEOPLE I HAVE TO HIRE, I'M HIRING FROM LITERALLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
I CAN'T HIRE. I'M NOT HIRING SOMEBODY FROM BEDFORD.
THAT THAT GUY, HE DOESN'T EXIST.
I'M LITERALLY HIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, LITERALLY ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT'S NOT. IT'S EXTREMELY SPECIALIZED.
I'M NOT GOING TO WORK ON A 98 ESCORT.
NO, NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
VIBE THAT BEDFORD COMMONS IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
LIKE THAT SINCE THEN, NEITHER WOULD HARDLY OR LUCKY.
YOU KNOW THIS THIS STRIKES ME AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GUN SHOP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND PASSED IN THE PAST MEETINGS VERSUS A GUN RESTORER, AN ANTIQUE GUN.
THIS SEEMS EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
WE DON'T WANT A MUFFLER SHOP IN IN BEDFORD COMMONS.
AND IF WE CAN MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AS CLEAR AS WE CAN THAT SO THAT THIS DISTINCTIVE EFFORT CAN BE RECOGNIZED SO THAT NOTHING ELSE MAY FIT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT STAFF TRIED TO DO.
BY ADDING THE AGE IN THERE, I MEAN, ALL THE SAME THINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING, THOUGH.
IF AT A MUFFLER SHOP, HE'S DOING THE SAME THINGS HE'S JUST DOING ON A HIGHER LEVEL.
AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE ARE.
IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF PAINT AND BODY WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AT A NORMAL COLLISION PLACE.
HE'S JUST DOING IT ON A HIGHER LEVEL AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO NARROW THAT DOWN.
THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN EASY THIS IS NOT AN EASY, I DON'T THINK PROCESS TO COME UP.
WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP AFTER OUR DISCUSSION.
AND THEN WE WILL WE'LL PRESENT YOU AN ORDINANCE.
LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE ONE ORDINANCE FOR THE LAND USE DEFINITION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THEN WE'LL DO ANOTHER ORDINANCE FOR THE BEDFORD COMMONS LAND USE CHART AMENDMENT.
AND WHAT I'M HEARING RIGHT NOW IS REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE ON THE LAND USE CHART IS TO REMOVE THE REGIONAL AND RETAIL AND EMPLOYMENT AREA OUT OF IT. I'M OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. CAN I ASK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. MURRAY, DID YOU SAY YOU WERE PLANNING TO PURCHASE IT IN TWO WEEKS, OR DO YOU HAVE AN OPTION? COME ON UP TO. I'M SORRY.
COME ON UP HERE. SO, I CLOSE ON 1916 AND 2000.
I HAVE KEYS IN MY POCKET RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU'RE ASSUMING ALL THIS IS GOING TO COME TO PASS.
YOU'RE IN A SUIT BUSINESS MANNER.
YOU WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS BUSINESS.
AND YOU'RE YOU WANT TO MOVE OUT OF FORT WORTH.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THIS THING IS STILL IN FLUX.
I HEAR YOU, OKAY? YES, SIR. OKAY, OKAY.
FAIR ENOUGH. I'M BUYING IT REGARDLESS.
I GOT A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER, I DRIVE BY YOUR PLACE QUITE OFTEN, ACTUALLY.
YES, SIR. AND HERE ON PARKWOOD? YES. I LIVE IN THE GATED COMMUNITY RIGHT NORTH OF YOU.
YES, SIR. I DRIVE UP THAT STREET.
EVERY TIME I COME BACK ON THE FREEWAY, IT'S SHORTCUT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN CARS OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS THAT WERE REDONE.
I'VE SEEN. I THINK THEY'RE IN THE BACK.
THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT $5 MILLION WORTH OF CARS IN THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I MEAN, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PULL THEM OUT AND SEND THEM OFF THE BACK DOOR FOR THE CARS TO ENTER IS ON THE BACK, ISN'T IT? WELL, I ACTUALLY WE DON'T WORK IN THAT BUILDING CURRENTLY.
OKAY. THIS IS INTERESTING NEWS.
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SO, THE WHERE DO YOU WORK IN DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH? OKAY, I MISSED THAT.SO CURRENTLY IN THAT BUILDING IT IS JUST START UP CAR STORAGE.
OKAY. THIS IS A WHOLE NOTHER STORY.
WELL, IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT HIS BUILDING YET, SO.
WES, I WAS THINKING ON YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE CHARACTER ZONE OF WHERE IT WOULD BE, AND WE SAID RE, I WOULD SAY IF IT DID MOVE FORWARD, IT SHOULD ONLY BE IN THE SAME PLACES AS AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE, WHICH IS ONLY IN THE HIGHWAY.
AND WHY WOULD IT GO INTO A DIFFERENT CORE WHEN THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T? BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LOCATED IN CORE.
SO AGAIN, I MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP IT TO WHERE IT IS.
OKAY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
AND ONE THING AND I'LL TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS, BUT I JUST FOR THE POINT OF RECORD.
THE, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS FOR MOTORCYCLE REPAIR, RIGHT? SO, ANY OTHER USE, EVEN STORING VEHICLES IS A VIOLATION OF THE CO.
SO, WE'LL BE TALKING TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ELONGATE THIS MUCH LONGER SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTION ITEM.
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY BEING ASKED TO DO AS A COMMISSION IS TO IMPORT A CHARACTER ZONE USE IN THE SCHEDULE THAT CURRENTLY DOESN'T EXIST IN THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD.
TO FIVE OTHER USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED.
STARTING WITH AUTOMOTIVE PARTS STORE, NEW AND USED CARS AND TRUCK SALES SERVICE.
AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOPS AND GARAGES AS PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY OR SECONDARY USE.
MANUFACTURING AND ASSEMBLY AND WELDING SHOPS.
ALL THOSE ARE SCHEDULED USES IN THE BEDFORD PUD FOR BEDFORD COMMONS AND.
MOSTLY USED IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OR HIGHWAYMULTI-USE, BUT THEY'RE ALL EXCLUDED.
EMU WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS REWRITE A USE THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST TO ALLOW THIS ONE TYPE OF BUSINESS TO BE PUT INTO A CORE GROUP.
COMMENTS I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT, THAT THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THIS BUSINESS, WHEREVER IT'S LOCATED, THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN FORT WORTH, ARE ALL CURRENTLY EXCLUDED, INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY FROM THE BEDFORD PUD CHARACTER USES, EXCEPT IN THE HIGHWAY MULTI USE CORRIDOR. AND I THINK WITH THAT, WE'LL WE'LL END OUR DISCUSSION UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM STAFF.
ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU WES VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING, EXCEPT FOR THE UPDATES ON PLANS, OTHER PROJECTS.
[UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS]
WHAT'S THE OUTCOME? WE'VE GIVEN HIM.WE'VE GIVEN HIM A RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOUGHTS TO THINK ABOUT AS SOME STAFF FEELINGS OF WHERE PNC IS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AWAITING HIM TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL BASED ON OUR COMMENTS AND STAFF HAS THAT AND WE WILL WE'LL TAKE THAT.
I WELCOME THOSE COMMENTS AND CONVERSATIONS.
PERFECT. REAL QUICK ON THE PROJECT UPDATE.
NOT A LOT OF CHANGES TO TALK ABOUT.
Q CAR WASH WAS IT FAILED TO GAIN COUNCIL APPROVAL BECAUSE OF A LACK OF A SUPERMAJORITY BASED ON A OPPOSITION PETITION. TIME RIFT ARCADE IS THEIR BUILDING PERMIT IS UNDER REVIEW.
THAT'S THE ARCADE THERE AT 2113 HARWOOD DRIVE OR HARWOOD ROAD IN THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER.
THE CONVENIENCE STORE THAT IS ADDING THE GASOLINE PUMPS AT 800 FOREST RIDGE.
THAT BUILDING PERMIT IS UNDER REVIEW.
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THEN THEN THE BYLAWS AND RULES AND PROCEDURE THAT'S ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK.YOU GET TWO WEEKS IN A ROW WITH ME.
YAY! YOU. AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN THIS ROOM ON APRIL THE 18TH.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE, AND IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A PROJECT UPDATE, BUT IT IS VERY GOOD NEWS.
WE HAVE RECENTLY FILLED THE PLANNER POSITION.
SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE ARCADE, IS THERE ANYTHING PARTICULAR GOING ON WITH IT? THAT'S. ODD OR JUST THE NORMAL PROCESS OF PAPERWORK? NO, I THINK IT'S A NORMAL PROCESS.
BUT IT'S NOTHING ON THE CITY SIDE.
NOTHING ON ELECTRICAL WITH ALL THAT.
NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE GUESSED.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. YEAH.
COOL. ARE WE THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKWOOD? I'M SORRY. JUST ON THE PARKWOOD TOWNHOMES.
LAST TIME ON WALKING OUT ABOUT THE PARK OR TRAFFIC STUDY BEING DONE.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE REDONE, BECAUSE THOSE NEW HOUSES GOING IN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THE PARKING STUDY, IF YOU KNEW FOR SURE, IF IT INCLUDED, WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO BE FROM THE NEW HOUSES GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN THE 72 TOWNHOUSES TOGETHER? SURE.
SO SINCE THE TOWNHOMES WERE APPROVED SO FAR, LONG AGO, THE THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT WAS DONE FOR THE OAKWOOD HILLS SUBDIVISION.
THERE IS SOME MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AT OAKWOOD HILLS.
AND 121 WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ONCE, ONCE THINGS GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SETTLED OUT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BIT OF TRACK STUDY ON THAT LIGHT. BACK COULD GO OUT TOMORROW FOR NEXT WEEK OR MONDAY.
YES, I, I HOPE THAT IN THE PACKET IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE DRAFT BYLAWS AND THE AGENDA.
I HOPE THAT GOES OUT IF NOT TOMORROW TO GO OUT MONDAY.
SURE, YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT GETTING THEM OUT, SO I'M TRYING.
JOINT MEETING WITH US WITH COUNCIL ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANY IDEA? ARE YOU? I'M. I'M ANTICIPATING WE GOT CAUGHT INTO A SNAG.
WE'RE TRYING TO FINE TUNE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECTS OF THE COMP PLAN.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT I'LL PRESENT TO P AND Z.
MY HOPE IS BY THE END OF MAY, WITH A JOINT MEETING SCHEDULED SOMETIME IN JUNE.
OKAY, GOOD. I WANT TO BE THERE.
WE WERE JUST SORRY. DECIDING WHO WAS BUYING THE PIZZA.
THANK YOU. WES. WE DECIDED THAT YOU WERE WES.
THANK YOU. THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY.
THANK. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US, SPECIFICALLY THIS EVENING.
OF COURSE. THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 719.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.