[CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL ]
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WE'LL DO OUR ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN.
OKAY. WE HAVE A QUORUM THIS EVENING.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOU'RE AN ACTIVE ALTERNATE, BUT WILL NOT BE VOTING THIS EVENING.
PLEASE RISE FOR INVOCATION AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR GATHERING TONIGHT.
YOUR GUIDANCE, AND WATCH OVER US, PARTICULARLY DURING THIS FESTIVE SEASON OF EASTER, WHERE WE'RE EVEN MORE KEENLY AWARE OF YOUR PRESENCE AND WHAT YOU MEAN TO ALL OF US.
THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WATCH OVER US EVEN WHEN WE DON'T KNOW IT.
FOR YOUR SON, FOR YOUR BLESSINGS.
AMEN. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, AND WELCOME TO THOSE VISITING THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 22ND.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
TAKE A MOMENT. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A.CORRECTION OR ADJUSTMENT TO THOSE MINUTES.
IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. COMMISSIONER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 22ND, 2024.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR LEFT HAND.
ALL RIGHT, THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE 22ND OF FEBRUARY HAVE BEEN PASSED.
[2. Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a site plan for Block 1 Lot 1A of the LD Bell Addition being 56.5 acres generally located at the northwest corner of Brown Trail and Airport Freeway, commonly known as 1601 Brown Trail. (SITE-243) ]
NOW WE'LL GO TO OUR ITEM TO.LET ME SEE. WES, GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO DO? WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF CITY COUNCILORS ON A SITE PLAN FOR BLOCK ONE, LOT ONE A OF THE L.D.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
GOING BACK TO THE MAP, THE RED LINE THAT YOU SEE KIND OF OUTLINES THE CITY LIMITS LINE.
THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY ARE RELOCATING THE TENNIS COURTS, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
THEY ARE TEMPORARILY CREATING A PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, AND ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, THEY'RE GOING TO SCRAP THAT TEMPORARY PARKING LOT AND PUT IN PRACTICE FIELDS THERE, AND THEN FURTHER DOWN ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE PRACTICE FIELDS.
YOU'LL SEE THERE WHERE THE TEMPORARY PARKING SPACE PARKING LOT IS THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATELY PRACTICE FIELDS, TENNIS COURTS, JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT, THE EXISTING SOFTBALL STADIUM THERE NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED EXISTING FOOTBALL STADIUMS THERE?
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AND THEN FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, THE PRACTICE FIELDS THAT ARE PROPOSED SITE PHOTOS.I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS. JUST A NOTE BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF OUR TOPICS.
THAT IS CORRECT. GOOD TO KNOW.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, DETAILED QUESTIONS, I WILL GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.
IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE? YES, SIR. I'M JOSH MINOR.
I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION FOR HEBISD.
OKAY. MY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING THE TENNIS COURTS BACK INTO THE CITY LIMITS OF BEDFORD.
OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO TAKE BACK TO OUR ADMINISTRATION AND SEE.
AT THE MOMENT, IT'D BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE NOW IS WE'VE HAD THOSE SECURED FOR SAFETY REASONS FOR OUR FOR STUDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I CAN TAKE THAT BACK AND ASK ABOUT THAT.
WES, CAN WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT LATER ON? FOLLOW UP? SURE. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS WHILE WE HAVE THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE BEFORE US, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I SAW YOU AT ONE OF THE PROBABLY SEVERAL OF THE BRIEFINGS, AND THE BRIEFINGS WERE VERY THOROUGH.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE IN THE TIMELINE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF EITHER OF THESE SCHOOLS, I GUESS FOR BELL HERE IN PARTICULAR? NO, THERE REALLY HAS NOT.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET OURSELVES SET UP TENNIS COURTS.
MOVING OVER ALL THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE ON OUR TIMELINE THAT WE'D REPRESENTED IN THE BEGINNING.
GOING TO BE QUITE A CHALLENGE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR WORK.
THANK YOU. WE WILL THANK YOU IF WE EVER SEE YOU AGAIN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
YOU'LL SEE ME AROUND FOR SURE.
VERY BUSY, BUT IT'S AND TO THE ARCHITECT, I MENTIONED THAT THE PLAN FOR THE TWO SCHOOLS IS, IS QUITE INCREDIBLE, AND THE UNIQUENESS AND THE CREATIVITY THAT YOU USED FOR THOSE TWO SCHOOLS AT THE SAME TIME, NOT HAVING TO DESIGN TO WHERE THEY COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR WHOSE SCHOOL IS THE BEST.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A THING.
IT WAS A SHOCK TO REALIZE THAT IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS SINCE BELL WAS BUILT.
IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
BOTH OF THEM WERE BUILT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, AND NOW, 50 YEARS LATER, WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT.
I THOUGHT, WOW, HOW DID WE GET INTO THE BOTH SCHOOLS WERE THAT OLD.
YES, BUT ANYWAY, BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS YOU DO.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS. ANYTHING ELSE FOR STAFF? THANKS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
CHAIRMAN EMERY, I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE SITE 24-3 AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
ON TO YOUR NEXT STEP, AND WE'LL WATCH FOR THE PROGRESS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND SITTING AND WATCHING US.
[3. Receive an update and provide staff direction regarding the proposed policies and action items for the Comprehensive Plan. ]
WELCOME BACK, WES.[00:10:01]
JUST WANT ME TO JUMP IN OR? YEAH. OKAY.YOU YOU TELL US STUFF, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS ALWAYS, WE'LL INTERRUPT AND THINK OF THINGS.
YEAH. SO AS A PART OF OUR ONGOING REWRITE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR MASTER PLAN, WHATEVER YOU PREFER TO CALL IT YOU KNOW, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I WAS HERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE.
I PUT THAT MAP AND THOSE DESIGNATIONS BACK IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE MADE FEW MINOR CHANGES.
I'D SAY PROBABLY ABOUT A HANDFUL OF CHANGES.
THAT MAP DOES NOT REFLECT THEM.
SO DON'T START LOOKING FOR THOSE CHANGES.
WE'VE MADE THE CHANGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AGAIN, I CAN KIND OF PROBABLY FROM MEMORY GO OVER THOSE, BUT THE PURPOSE I PUT THAT IN THERE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WERE MINOR, AND WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS TONIGHT WHEN WE TALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
SO I WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT READILY.
YES. THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THERE, BUT WE YES, MOST DEFINITELY.
ANY OF THOSE, AND THIS ITEM, I MEAN, SOMEWHAT VAGUE ON THE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
GO FROM THERE. SO FIRST THING I WANT TO KIND OF TOUCH ON BECAUSE THE WAY THE POLICY AND ACTION ITEMS WORKS, IS IT REALLY THE FOUNDATION IS THE VISION STATEMENT AND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
THIS IS THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING WE DO IN THE MASTER PLAN OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CONTINUE TO PUT IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENT JUST IN GENERAL THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE, THE POLICIES AND ACTIONS THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE CALL THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THAT FIRST PAGE, IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, NO PLAN HAS IS VALUABLE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION TOOL TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF IT, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT HERE.
SO REALLY I JUST PUT THE STRATEGIES UP THERE FOR EACH ONE, BUT SO YOU HAVE STRATEGIES, AND OUT OF EACH STRATEGY, THOSE STRATEGIES ARE BASED ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND VISION STATEMENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE POLICIES THAT COME OUT OF THAT, AND THEN YOU HAVE ACTION ITEMS. SO THE ACTION ITEMS ARE STAFF'S JOB.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT WE'VE GOT THE STRATEGIES AND THE POLICIES RIGHT.
WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME ACTION ITEMS THAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS.
SO WITH THAT I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP INTO IT, AND SO STRATEGY NUMBER ONE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT AMENDING OUR CODES TO INCORPORATE THAT DESTINATION AND PLACEMAKING THAT WE WANT TO, THAT WE WANT TO BECOME.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STATEMENTS IN OUR VISION STATEMENT AND OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT TALK ABOUT CREATING VILLAGES AND CREATING DESTINATIONS AND PLACES IN BETWEEN THAT, THAT REALLY LINK THE CITY AND MIRROR THE CITY UP.
SO THE THIS STRATEGY REALLY FOCUSES ON AMENDING OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY ONE ENFORCE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THESE ARE ALL GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
THESE ARE NOT REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE CREATING THE ACTION ITEM OUT OF STRATEGY NUMBER ONE IS CREATING THOSE REGULATIONS THAT FORCE DEVELOPERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND EVEN IN SOME CASES THE CITY TO FOLLOW THESE AND TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? PLEASE, ONE SMALL QUESTION.
BECAUSE IT'S REPEATED NUMEROUS TIMES IN THIS DOCUMENT, HELP ME WITH WHAT IS THE CURRENT DEFINITION IN THE PLANNING WORLD FOR A VILLAGE? A VILLAGE IS A DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
A VILLAGE IS A IT'S ANOTHER WORD FOR A DISTRICT.
WE HAVE WE REFER TO BEDFORD COMMONS AS A DISTRICT.
BEDFORD COMMONS IS A VILLAGE ALSO.
IT'S AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAS SOME SPECIAL, UNIQUE MEANING THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.
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CURRENTLY SPEAK OF IN THE CITY HERE.I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND I KNOW WE'VE TOUCHED ON IT IN THE PAST AND I'VE GIVEN ANSWERS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S AND IT'S VERY FAIR TO SAY I'M GUILTY OF IT SOMETIMES I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS CAN GET IN THEIR LINGO AND, AND WE DON'T RECOGNIZE OR WE FORGET THAT NOT EVERYONE KNOWS OUR LINGO AND SO IT'S FAIR TO ASK, AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
WES, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THIS.
RIGHT? OKAY. IT'S THERE, BUT WE'VE GOT AND THESE ARE JUST HYPOTHETICALS.
WE'VE GOT A CORRIDOR THAT MAYBE WE WANT TO DEVELOP AS A VILLAGE CENTER OR ONE OF THESE SEGMENTS THERE, BUT TODAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE THE ZONING DOESN'T FIT WITH WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO GET THAT CHANGED? AND WHAT STOPS SOMEONE COMING IN THAT WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING THAT FITS WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, BUT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M. WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THESE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT IS THE REGULATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
SO THAT PERMITTED USE CHART IS IS SOMETHING THAT.
IT THE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY? IT'S THE BIBLE.
IT IS THE RULE OF OF THE ZONING THAT YOU HAVE TO.
IF THE USE ISN'T ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT, THEN IT'S NOT, THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT.
THE FIRST THING WE LOOK AT IS WHAT'S THE ZONING ON IT, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE PERMITTED USE CHART.
SO TO KIND OF BROADLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WE HAVE A PERMITTED USE CHART OR A ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY, IT SHOULD ALIGN WITH THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS, IS TO LOOK AT THOSE ZONING ORDINANCES.
OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE THE ZONING DOESN'T FIT WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS AND WHICH TAKES PRECEDENT. OH, I'M SORRY.
SO BEFORE WE FIX THE ZONING, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SORRY. I DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
I'M WITH ROGER. I THINK WE ALL HAVE CONSIDERED THE FACT.
OKAY, WE CHANGED THE LAND USE PLAN THAT WE HAVE FALL BACK ON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
THIS REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE PLAN, BUT THEN IF BEFORE WE CHANGE ALL THOSE ORDINANCES, WE GET PROPOSALS AHEAD TO US THAT MEET THE ZONING THAT DON'T MEET THE PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR GUIDANCE TO.
THIS IS KIND OF HOW YOU GOT TO WORK THAT.
SO IF IT MEETS THE ZONING, IF IT MEETS THE ZONING, IT MAY NEVER COME TO YOU ALL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, ONCE THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED, STAFF WILL CREATE A WORK PLAN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT YEAR.
MY HOPE IS SUMMER IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTION AND SO PROBABLY THE VERY NEXT MEETING, I'LL BE COMING TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S OUR WORK PLAN BASED ON THESE ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE IN THIS APPROVED DOCUMENT.
NOW, HERE'S OUR WORK ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.
I WILL TELL YOU PERMITTED USE CHART AND CLASS KIND OF CONSOLIDATING.
SOME ZONING DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE TRY TO DO.
GOOD. OKAY, BECAUSE THAT MAKES THE MOST IMPRESSION ON ACHIEVING THAT VISION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TIED TO THIS FIRST STRATEGY WE TALKED ABOUT PERMITTED USES SIMPLIFYING THE ZONING, OUR ZONING CATEGORIES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ZONING CATEGORIES FOR OUR CITY.
A GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 6500, WHICH IS MINIMUM LOT SIZE 6500, AND WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 7500, WHICH IS MINIMUM LOT SIZE 7500.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T COMBINE THOSE TWO.
THAT'S WE JUST HAVE TOO MANY, AND IN SOME CASES WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT.
WE HAVE EITHER HEAVY COMMERCIAL LIGHT COMMERCIAL OR SERVICE COMMERCIAL.
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WELL, SOMETIMES YOU MAY JUST HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING.I GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE STRETCH ALONG HARWOOD ROAD, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF THE I CALL THEM BOUTIQUE LITTLE OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE.
THOSE SHOULD ONLY BE OFFICES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PREDOMINANTLY GOES IN THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S MOST COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S THEY'RE ALSO BACKING UP TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, AND SO YOU DON'T WANT TO, AND IN ONE CASE, WE HAVE WE HAVE A RETAIL USE THAT HAS GONE INTO ONE OF THOSE OFFICES AND IT DOESN'T FIT, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN OFFICE DISTRICT TO KIND OF NARROW THAT DOWN AND JUST SAY, NO, WE ONLY WANT PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IN THIS DISTRICT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I REMEMBER WHEN THOSE WERE BUILT.
I MEAN, IT WAS CLASSIC CONCEPTS THAT DID MOST OF THOSE, AND THEY WERE VERY BENIGN IF YOU WERE A HOMEOWNER BEHIND THEM BECAUSE NORMALLY THEY WERE 8 TO 5, DENTIST, DOCTOR, ATTORNEY, THAT TYPE OF THING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HAVING A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
EXACTLY, AND THEY'RE BUILT TO KIND OF MIMIC THE EXISTING HOMES.
RIGHT, EXACTLY, BUT THEY'RE ON HARWOOD ROAD, WHICH YOU NORMALLY WOULDN'T PUT A HOME ON.
SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.
IT JUST WE NEED TO KIND OF FINE TUNE THAT ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN AND NOT JUST SAY IT'S IN A SERVICE COMMERCIAL WHICH COULD HAVE RETAIL, COULD HAVE A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT, COULD HAVE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
ANOTHER ACTION ITEM THAT'S WORTH MENTIONING AND THAT IS CREATING SOME OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
I'LL BE HONEST, I'M PROFESSIONALLY PLANNING WISE.
I'M NOT ALWAYS A FAN OF OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
I USUALLY LIKE TO HAVE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS.
HOWEVER, I THINK IN THESE THREE CASES IT MAKES SENSE.
THESE THREE CASES BEING COMMONS, WE HAVE TALKED AT NAUSEAM, I BELIEVE ABOUT BEDFORD COMMONS, AND IS IT THE RIGHT PLAN? IS IT THE RIGHT THING? DO WE NEED TO TWEAK IT HERE? DO WE NEED TO TWEAK IT THERE? I THINK EVERYBODY'S AGREED IT NEEDS SOME TWEAKING.
I ALSO THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE ITS OWN ZONING CLASSIFICATION LIKE IT IS TODAY, AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN OVERLAY THAT IF YOU'RE DOING X, Y, Z, OR MAYBE WE WANT TO REGULATE SOME USES IN THAT WE CAN DO ALL THAT THROUGH AN OVERLAY, BUT IT'S NOT ITS BASE ZONING AND IT'S NOT ITS PRIMARY ZONING CATEGORY, BECAUSE AND I'M GOING TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, BECAUSE THE COMMONS IS SUCH A LARGE DISTRICT AND IT SPANS SUCH A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE FREEWAY.
YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON BEDFORD ROAD.
IT'S HARD TO REGULATE ALL OF THOSE IN ONE ZONING DISTRICT.
MEADOWS THE, THE MEADOWS PROPERTY, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY SELL AND DEVELOP THAT LAND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S BEEN PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY WAS DONE.
SO IN CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS AND ALSO ACHIEVE THE CITY'S GOALS AND WHAT WE WANT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK LIKE.
SO WE THINK AN OVERLAY OF THAT AREA MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY COME IN AND EITHER CREATE A PUD TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THAT OVERLAY, AND THE OVERLAY JUST MAKES IT MORE OF A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAY.
YES, SIR. I SAW ON THE BEDFORD FACEBOOK PAGE THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED WHAT'S GOING TO BE PUT THERE, AND YET YOU ALL HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING COME TO YOU FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS BEEN DETERMINED.
I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A VISION, AND, BUT I DON'T THINK.
ARE YOU SAYING DETERMINED AS A SITE PLAN OR.
YES, LIKE TOWNHOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I CAN READ TO YOU WHAT I SAW.
I MEAN, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU I'VE NOT SEEN ANY APPROVED PLANS FOR THAT.
THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK THAT MAYBE THAT IS REFERRING TO IS A IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESCRIPTION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, IT TALKS ABOUT A MIXTURE OF HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S VERY VAGUE AND IT'S VAGUE FOR A REASON BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SET PLAN YET.
OKAY. STONEGATE IS ANOTHER ONE.
STONEGATE FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR.
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THE FREEWAY.WE'VE GOT SEVERAL NEW PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA, AND WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MOST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA, AND MOST, NOT ALL, BUT THEY ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT CREATING SOME TYPE OF OVERLAY THAT HELPS REDEFINE THAT AREA, AND SO WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME STREET IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BROWN TRAIL, AND BEDFORD ROAD.
SO THOSE ARE JUST IDEAS FOR AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
IF THAT'S WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD, AT LEAST AT THE TIME OR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I THINK BEDFORD COMMONS IS KIND OF CREATING THAT AREA NOW, SO I'M NOT SURE, AND MR. GALLENSTEIN IF YOU'VE GOT I MEAN, IT DATES BACK, I REMEMBER WE'RE TALKING THE EARLY 90S.
I MEAN, THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT IT WOULD BE A MINI LAS COLINAS MINUS THE MONORAIL, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T THE I'LL CALL IT STICKTOITIVENESS AND WE LET APARTMENTS GO IN, AND THEN, I MEAN, WE HAD A REAL NICE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT PATSY SMITH DID, BUT IT JUST KIND OF DEVELOPED WILLY NILLY, AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT LEFT IS WHAT TODAY WE'RE CALLING BEDFORD COMMONS.
I MEAN, IT WAS KNOWN AS THE FOOTBALL SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE CBD, WHATEVER TERMINOLOGY, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, A MINI LAS COLINAS WAS WHAT WAS I HAD HEARD TOTALLY UPSET WHEN APARTMENTS, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
YEAH. TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE VISION WAS.
HAD THEY DONE THE VISION CORRECTLY.
THE DOWNTOWN AREA OVER THERE INSTEAD OF PARK.
RIGHT. YEAH, SO THAT MAKES A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE TO ME.
KIND OF ALONG WITH WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AS WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT AT SOME POINT THEY KIND OF BACKED AWAY FROM ALL THOSE REGULATIONS, AND NOW WE JUST HAVE AN OVERLAY ON OUR ZONING MAP OF THIS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE, AND SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS JUST TO ELIMINATE THAT COMPLETELY FROM THE ZONING MAP AND FOCUS ON THOSE OVERLAYS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
OKAY REAL QUICK, TWO OTHER THINGS, AND THEN I'LL GET OFF STRATEGY NUMBER ONE.
THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKING THESE DAYS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY YOU LOOKED AT PARKING BACK IN THE, THE EARLY 2000S AND IN THE 90S WHEN OUR CURRENT CODES WERE WRITTEN.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE A MORE MODERN APPROACH TO PARKING TODAY.
THROUGH, I MEAN, THROUGH EV CHARGING STATIONS, THROUGH RIDESHARE, THROUGH THE WAY PEOPLE EVEN SHOP NOW WITH PICK UP AND GO ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE, JUST A COMPLETE WHOLE REWRITE OF OUR PARKING REGULATIONS.
WOULD THIS BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT DALLAS IS WORKING ON NOW, TO NOT REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES? I THINK IN SOME AREAS THAT WORKS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WORKS IN ALL AREAS.
I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT SOME DISTRICTS AND SAY WE DON'T WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT MUCH PARKING.
I ALSO THINK, AND WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GET INTO IT LATER ON SOME OF OUR OTHERS, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN, BECAUSE PARKING IS EXPENSIVE TO CREATE ALL THAT CONCRETE AND ALL THAT LAND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.
IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT IF WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE OUT OF THE DEVELOPER AND WE WANT THE DEVELOPER TO PUT MORE OPEN SPACE, OR MAYBE WE WANT MORE APPLAUSE OR A GATHERING SPACE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL TELL THE DEVELOPER, YOU GIVE US THIS AND WE'LL REDUCE YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE, RIGHT, AND YOU CAN WRITE ALL THOSE INTO YOUR REGULATIONS, AND IT'S VERY EASY.
I'VE SEEN IT DONE IN OTHER CITIES.
I'VE BEEN A PART OF IT IN OTHER CITIES, AND IT'S VERY EASY AND IT'S KIND OF FUN SOMETIMES.
THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION ON THIS ONE AND THAT'S REVIEW THE SIGN CODE, OUR SIGN CODE IS, IS JUST OUT OF DATE, AND IT TAKES THE IDEA THAT THE BIGGER THE SIGN, THE BETTER, THE MORE BUSINESS I'M GOING TO GET, AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS TODAY.
EVEN PEOPLE IN THE SIGN INDUSTRY WILL TELL YOU THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS THESE DAYS.
SO WE NEED TO REWRITE OUR SIGN CODE TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES.
ANY QUESTIONS AND I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STRATEGY.
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JUST A COUPLE OF THE POLICIES.THERE'S ABOUT 11 POLICIES IN THIS ONE, BUT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES BECAUSE THIS REALLY TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC FACILITIES AND PUBLIC SPACES, AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FALLS ON THE CITY.
THIS REALLY GETS INTO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ARE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
A LOT OF THESE CHANGES WOULD FALL IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
STREET DESIGN WHAT THOSE STREETS LOOK LIKE.
PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE FRIENDLY DESIGNS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I HAVE A QUESTION, WES. PLEASE.
IS THIS DO YOU WANT FEEDBACK FROM US ON, LIKE, WHAT'S BEING WRITTEN IN HERE OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO LATER? I'LL TAKE FEEDBACK WHENEVER YOU HAVE IT.
SO IF YOU HAVE I WILL SAY AND THAT'S I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT.
IF YOU'VE GOT BECAUSE THIS IS DRAFT FORMAT.
IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME BUT IF YOU HAVE POLICY IDEAS OR IF YOU JUST DON'T LIKE ANY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN HERE I'D LIKE AS A GROUP TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. THE ONE THING I GUESS THAT IS CATCHING MY EYE IN SOME OF THESE IN TERMS OF POLICY AND IT SOUNDS GRAMMATICAL IN THEORY, BUT IT'S NOT TO ME.
IT SAYS THE WORD CONSIDER IN QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT PLACES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, AND IN HERE IT'S SAYING WE SHOULD ALWAYS CONSIDER PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT KIND OF PUTS US IN A SITUATION TO BE LIKE, MEH, WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WE DIDN'T DO IT.
INSTEAD OF SAYING LIKE, CORRIDOR REDESIGN WILL OPTIMIZE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S MORE DIRECT AND NOT LIKE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT DIDN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MORE ALONG THOSE LINES.
IT'S THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU WRITE THIS IN A WAY THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HOLD SOMEBODY'S HAND FORCE, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT SITTING HERE TODAY, WE WANT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DO FORCE.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO BACK OFF THE SOFT LANGUAGE AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECT, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, AND IF THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND WE DO THAT FOR THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, BUT ON SOME OF THESE THAT WE REALLY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO THAT AND THE OTHER ONE [INAUDIBLE] IS JUST A NUMBER 11 ON THE POLICIES.
JUST SPECIFY I'M ASSUMING THAT IT'S MEANT TO BE WITHIN A 15 MINUTE WALK, NOT A 15 MINUTE DRIVE, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO MAKE. SO YEAH, 15 MINUTE DRIVE.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON IMPLEMENTATION.
YES. I'M SORT OF GETTING LOST IN THE.
I'M SORRY. NO, NO, I CAN READ ALL THIS, BUT THE 12 STRATEGIES WITH POLICIES AND ACTIONS BELOW THEM, HOW IS IT GOING TO WORK GETTING FEEDBACK HERE. YEAH I'M GOING TO TRY TO.
HOW IS IT GOING TO WORK? IF YOU CAN GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A PARCEL THAT'S COME UP FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
HOW DO WE GET ALL THIS FOR US TO CONSIDER? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL DIRECT US THROUGH? WILL THERE BE A PROGRAM THAT SAYS, OKAY, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THIS OVERLAY ZONE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE? ARE WE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO BECOME EXPERTS IN THE 12 STRATEGIES AND POLICIES AND IMPLEMENTATION? HOW DO WE THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF STUFF TO USE A TECHNICAL WORD.
IT IT IS AND BUT NO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
I MY VISION, AND IF SOMEBODY COMES IN FOR REDEVELOPMENT NOW IF WE HAVE WHETHER IT BE ZONING, WHETHER IT BE SITE PLAN, IN THE PAST OUR STAFF REPORTS HAVE BEEN VERY WHAT MAYBE A PARAGRAPH ON WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE STAFF REPORT WILL GOVERN SOME OF THESE.
WE WILL BE THE NOW, I WILL NEED YOU TO READ THE STAFF REPORT.
I KNOW SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT, AND THAT'S OKAY, I GET IT, BUT IT IS INCUMBENT ON YOU TO READ, BUT IT'S INCUMBENT ON STAFF TO PUT THE INFORMATION FOR YOU IN A REPORT TO READ AND TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT WON'T ALWAYS BE YOU SITTING THERE.
IT MAY BE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, AND THEY WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE WROTE THIS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THIS.
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IT'S ON STAFF TO TEACH THEM THAT.OKAY. MY APOLOGIES FOR READING AHEAD, WHICH MY WIFE ALWAYS CRITICIZES ME FOR, BUT I LOOKED AT THE 12 AND THE POLICY, THE STRATEGIES, THE POLICIES, THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF MATERIAL.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED AND QUESTIONED HOW IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
NO, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU. WES, GOING BACK TO WHAT I'VE ASKED BEFORE ONCE THIS DOCUMENT IS APPROVED, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND DO A REAL WASH OF ALL THE ORDINANCES, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO US PIECE BY PIECE OR CHUNK BY CHUNK, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL LEARN ABOUT HOW THIS MASTER PLAN WORKS IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
RIGHT, THE ONE THING I WOULD RESPOND TO THAT AND SAY, YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT, MY HOPE IS THAT AS WE'RE BRINGING MORE AND MORE PIECES OF THIS CONFERENCE PLAN TO YOU, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.
SURE, AND YES, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND THE WAY I LIKE TO DO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT ALWAYS HAPPENS THIS WAY BECAUSE FACTORS CHANGE, BUT THE WAY I LIKE TO DO IT IS AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR I GIVE YOU A WORK PLAN FOR STAFF.
NOW WE'VE GOT OTHER CASES AND THINGS THAT ARE STILL GOING TO COME IN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. RIGHT, AND THAT'S CHANGING THOSE ORDINANCES, NUMBER ONE, NEED TO BE CHANGED.
YOU SHOULD, YES, AND THEN WHOEVER'S SITTING IN MY CHAIR LATER ON, THEY'LL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST SO THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON INFORMATION PRESENTED.
IS THIS THE TEN YEAR TYPICALLY THEY SAY, I WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT REALISTIC, BUT THEY SAY AND I SAY THEY PLANNERS OF THE WORLD SAY THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOOD FOR 20 TO 25 YEARS.
I BELIEVE THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDEALLY SHOULD GUIDE YOU OVERALL THROUGH TEN YEARS, MAYBE.
THE WAY I LIKE TO DO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, AND I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND MR. OTTO IS RIGHT. WE WILL DO A WORK PLAN AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR, BUT ALONG WITH THAT, WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
WE WILL RECAP WHAT WE DID THE LAST YEAR.
THAT'S ONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE, BUT ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REVIEW THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAIN, AND IF OUR GOALS HAVE CHANGED OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO IN TEN YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO IN FIVE YEARS, THEY MAY IN ONE YEAR, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE IF THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY CHANGE, THEN THAT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT AS THEY CHANGE.
HOW DO THOSE CHANGES HAPPEN? THIS PROCESS BACK TO COUNCIL? OH, HOW, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING HOW TO COMMUNITIES CHANGE, AND I WAS GOING TO GO INTO A WHOLE LONG.
OH, NO. THE NO, THAT WOULD BE IF I'M SITTING UP HERE NEXT YEAR AND COMMISSION SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE LIKED IT LAST YEAR. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT THIS YEAR, AND WE WANT TO DO WE DON'T LIKE THE STONEGATE.
MAYBE JUST THE FACTORS OF THE, THE ECONOMY, THE FACTORS OF THAT AREA HAVE CHANGED.
MAYBE SOMEONE CAME IN AND THERE'S NOW A MAJOR INDUSTRY THERE.
SOMETHING HAPPENED. WHO KNOWS? THE SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE WILL, IF WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL MAKE STAFF WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO P&Z.
P&Z WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO AMEND THE DOCUMENT.
OKAY. OKAY TO SEGUE FROM DANIELLE'S COMMENT ALL THROUGH THERE.
THERE IS A LOT THAT WE'VE TALKED ON THIS COMMISSION SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE SHOULD, WILL, SHALL THING, AND THE ECONOMIES AND DIFFICULTIES OF THOSE THREE WORDS SPECIFICALLY.
THIS, AS SHE SAID, IS A LOT OF SHOULD.
SO ON ONE OF OUR MAJOR CITY IN THE PLAN CITY COUNCIL IS CONNECTIVITY AND TRANSPORTATION, INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE CITY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CARS AND BIKES AND ALL OF THAT.
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MAYBE SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE NUMBER FOUR ON THIS PAGE.MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A WILL, NOT A SHALL, BUT MAY BE A WILL INSTEAD OF A SHOULD.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW PICKY I LIKE THAT BUT SOME OF THE KEY POINTS OF THE WHOLE PLAN ARE PARKS, INTERCONNECTIVITY AND INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S A BIG SEGMENT OF WHAT THIS WHOLE PLAN SAYS, RIGHT.
CONNECTIVITY, AND I LIKE THAT.
SHALL IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A VERY IMPORTANT WORD.
SHALL IN THIS DOCUMENT I GET A LITTLE IFFY ON JUST BECAUSE.
SO WHILE I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND WE SHOULD PUT SOME MEAT IN THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A WEAK DOCUMENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO TIE SOMEONE'S HANDS.
I DON'T THINK SHALL IN THIS DOCUMENT AGREED WORKS BECAUSE THIS IS A CITYWIDE THING.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PAGE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IT ADDRESSES A LOT OF CITIZEN COMPLAINTS OVER TIME THAT INVOLVED AN ENTIRE CITY.
THERE'S YOU CAN'T RIDE A BIKE.
YOU CAN'T WALK. YOU CAN'T WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, THE STREETS DON'T HAVE CURBS OR WHATEVER THOSE ARE THAT GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA, BUT THOSE TWO THINGS I THINK SHOULD BE WILL INSTEAD OF 1 AND 4 OUGHT TO BE WILL INSTEAD OF SHALL.
THE WORLD'S GOING TO CHANGE, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FLOAT WITH THAT AND BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.
I LIKE THE WAY SHE SAID, OH WELL.
YEAH, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
WELL, THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY AND WE MAY HAVE COUNCIL TURN AROUND AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, AND THEY'LL TELL STAFF CHANGE IT.
SO WE MAY BE LOOKING AT CHANGING IT, CHANGING IT NOT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE BUT FROM COUNCIL AND MAYBE CITIZEN INPUT.
RIGHT. SO YEAH, LET'S BACK UP JUST A SECOND.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
NOT OFF THE RECORD, BUT HOW HARD DO YOU REALLY WANT US TO SCRUB THIS THING? ARE WE DOING, LIKE, THE GRUNT WORK TO GET IT REALLY DEFINED? OR IS IT KIND OF LIKE I'M LOOKING AT YOU ALL FOR POLICY DIRECTION? OKAY. I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT CONTEXT OF WORDS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THAT'S FINE. IT DOESN'T HURT MY FEELINGS AT ALL BUT I LIKE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW ABOUT WILL CONSIDER SHOULD I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE ENTIRE NIGHT TALKING ABOUT THAT I WANT TO REALLY TALK ABOUT.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH SOME OF THESE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS? DO YOU ABSOLUTELY HATE THE IDEA OF ESTABLISHING DESIGN CRITERIA FOR CITY OWNED FACILITIES? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT.
I REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT POLICY OVERARCHING THEMES, YOU KNOW, DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS STRATEGY? IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS STRATEGY, THEN NOW IS THE TIME TO TELL ME, BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PROBABLY, IF NOT THE NUMBER ONE, IT'S TIED FOR NUMBER ONE OR MAYBE IT'S JUST UNDER NUMBER ONE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE IT GIVES US OUR WORK PLAN FOR THOSE NEXT TEN, 15 YEARS.
UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE IN STRATEGY NUMBER TWO.
AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO THESE ACTION ITEMS REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.
THEY FOCUS ON CREATING THOSE DISTRICTS, AND, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL WITH THE BEDFORD COMMONS, THE STONEGATE, THE MEADOWS AND JUST GIVES SOME IDEAS THAT WE MAY NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT, LIKE IN THE BEDFORD COMMONS DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY?
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HARLEY WAY IS SUCH A WIDE STREET.IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN--AND HARLEY DOES A LOT OF EVENTS--IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE RECONFIGURE THAT STREET? RECONFIGURE MAY NOT BE THE BEST WORD, BUT USE THE SPACE IN THAT STREET TO BOTH BENEFIT HARLEY DAVIDSON FROM DOING THE EVENTS AND AS A DRAW TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND AS OUR CITIZENS CAN SOMEPLACE GO FOR FESTIVALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU COULD CLOSE THE STREET, LIKE, YOU KNOW, GRAPEVINE DOES, CLOSE THE STREET AND MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN? RIGHT. OKAY. MOVING ON TO STRATEGY NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.
THERE'S THIS PIECE WITH SOME [INAUDIBLE] DESTINATIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT SPACE, BUT IN LOOKING AT THE LAND USE MAP, THE ONE THING THAT I'M STILL SEEING THAT I WAS HOPING I WOULDN'T SEE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NOTHING ALONG LIKE THE TRAILS AND THE PARK SYSTEM.
AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE RIGHT ONE PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL.
SO TO ME I SEE PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL AND IT'S HIGHWAY FOCUSED COMMERCIAL.
I'M LIKE, OH WOW, ANOTHER PLACE THAT HAS A RESTAURANT THAT FACES THE HIGHWAY VERSUS PLACES LIKE KATY TRAIL OR THOSE KIND OF PLACES WHERE IT'S LIKE YOU, THAT'S A DESTINATION PLACE AND TO GO SIT DOWN ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT IS JUST ALONG THE HIGHWAY DOESN'T BECOME A DESTINATION TO ME, AND SO I'M WONDERING ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT PART OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP MAKES THIS THE DESTINATION TO ATTRACT PEOPLE? I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ONE, A COUPLE OF THINGS, WE'VE GOT TO BE REALISTIC.
WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, FOR INSTANCE, THE PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL AT AT CENTRAL AND HARWOOD, PLACE FOCUSED COMMERCIAL BEDFORD COMMONS, OBVIOUSLY YOU LOOK AT THAT AND I THINK THERE ARE WAYS I THINK TAKING THAT EXAMPLE OF TEXAS HARLEY WAY YOU CAN YEAH, WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
WE GET THAT WE'RE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT PROBABLY NOT ANYTIME SOON TYPE DEAL.
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE SAW THE CHEDDAR'S CHANGE, WE MAY SEE OTHER THINGS CHANGE LIKE THAT, AND IT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BUILD IN SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS, TO FORCE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO NOT FACE THE FREEWAY, TO FACE INWARD, TO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE ONES THAT WE KIND OF LOOKED AT AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT IN PLACE FOCUSED, BUT I THINK OF, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO TRAILS, AND WE DON'T HAVE TRAILS ON HERE PER SE.
WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] LINEAR TRAIL.
I'M SORRY. [INAUDIBLE] LINEAR TRAIL.
YEAH. YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING LINEAR TRAIL.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IS REALLY DO A MASTER TRAILS PLAN, A DEDICATED MASTER TRAILS PLAN.
THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS DOCUMENT.
I ACTUALLY THINK AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS JUST AS A SIDEBAR A LOT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO CONNECT ALL OF OUR EVEN OUR VILLAGE COMMERCIAL, OUR PLACE FOCUSED, OUR CAMPUS DEVELOPMENTS EVEN OUR BIG BOX.
I THINK YOU CAN CONNECT TO A TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
THINGS COST MONEY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD DRAINAGE SYSTEM HERE THAT YOU CAN RUN TRAILS ALONG, AND I THINK WE NEED TO UTILIZE THAT.
DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? KIND OF SORT OF? YEAH, KIND OF SORT OF, I GUESS.
I GUESS THAT THE ACTIONS HERE TO ME THAT ARE LISTED RIGHT NOW DON'T KIND OF COVER THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO ME, IN TERMS OF LIKE DEVELOP A PARKS PLAN THAT WILL INCLUDE.
I THINK THAT'S IN FUTURE STRATEGIES AND IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT I DON'T KNOW, AND I'M GOING OFF MEMORY HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD LIKE MR. JACOBSEN NOW.
I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT FOR A TRAIL MASTER PLAN, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY ADD THAT IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND IF IT DIDN'T GET PUT IN HERE, IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
I'M TRYING TO FIND IT WHERE IT IS NOW.
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I KNOW IT'S IN HERE.WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE UP TO PARKS AND REC TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'LL BE IT'LL BE AN APPENDIX TO THIS AT THAT POINT.
WE MAY DO EVENTUALLY, AND IT'S IN HERE AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT READY FOR IT YET, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'LL DO A WAYFINDING PLAN.
IT'S EVERYTHING WILL BUILD ON THIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, BECAUSE MARK WAS THERE AT ONE OF THE SESSIONS AND, YOU KNOW, HE BROUGHT I ASKED HIM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S WHAT HIS THAT'S WHAT HIS IDEA IS FOR THE FUTURE TO MARRY HIS PLAN ALONG WITH THIS, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPATIBLE.
RIGHT? YEAH, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS WASN'T DONE IN A VACUUM.
THIS I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF OF GROUP MEETINGS, BUT CITY STAFF THAT HAS ANY TYPE OF INVOLVEMENT IN ANY FUNCTION OF THIS PLAN [INAUDIBLE] HAS HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CONSULTANTS, WITH MYSELF.
SO THIS HAS BEEN A GROUP EFFORT AND I'M GOING TO FIND THAT PARK PART, I PROMISE.
JUST AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH PAGE, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO DO PAGE HERE AGAIN IN THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT, NUMBER ONE, UNDER POLICY, THAT'S WHERE ONE OF THE SHOULD SHOULD PROBABLY BE A WILL.
ABOUT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY PART JUST SO THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT AS WE GO THROUGH SECTIONS.
JUST A THOUGHT, OKAY? BECAUSE IT TALKS. IT SPEAKS EVEN MORE DETAILED IN THE DEVELOPMENT TO WHAT WE LOOKED AT BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT. ARE WE AT FOUR? OKAY. OH, WAIT.
AGAIN, THIS TALKS ABOUT CONNECTING AND KIND OF WHAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERY PLACE HAS SOME GATHERING OR SOME NODE OF SOME SORT.
YOU COULD DO THAT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
YOU CAN AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
WE HAVE TO PICK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO US, REALLY? SOMETIMES WE MAY NOT WANT WE MAY WANT MORE PARKING, OR WE MAY WANT MORE LANDSCAPING AND LESS PARKING, OR WE MAY WANT MORE OPEN SPACE OR MORE PUBLIC ART INVOLVED IN A DEVELOPMENT AND LESS LANDSCAPING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE DO THOSE DEVELOPMENT CODES.
LET'S SEE. I'M TRYING TO THINK.
I WAS IN A CITY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN OR REDEVELOPMENT, IF THEY WERE DOING X PERCENTAGE OF REDEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE, THEY HAD A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY HAD TO PICK FROM, THEY HAD TO INCLUDE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
X PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SITE HAD TO BE DEDICATED TO AN OPEN SPACE OF SOME SORT, AND IN THAT OPEN SPACE THEY HAD TO PROVIDE CERTAIN THINGS, WHETHER IT BE A FOUNTAIN, WHETHER IT BE A, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING, BENCHES, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, SOMETHING TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT JUST STICKING A PIECE OF OPEN SPACE ON THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
WOULD THAT WOULD THIS ACTION ITEM FILL THE GAP THAT WE HAD WHEN TURNING POINT WANTED TO DO THE PATIO OUT FRONT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES FOR WHAT KIND OF WALL THEY NEEDED? WE COULD. YEAH, NO, MOST DEFINITELY.
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HAVE ANY, THERE WEREN'T ANY CITY REGULATIONS OR ANYTHING THAT ALLOWED US TO SAY THE WALL BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE PATIO NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE THIS.RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE RESTAURANT OVER THERE BY THE THEATER.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WANTED TO DO A FACADE AROUND THERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES OR CRITERIA FOR LIKE BUILDING MATERIAL TYPE, RIGHT, FOR THAT LIKE PATIO THING, AND I THINK WE WOULD DEFINITELY BUILD THAT IN.
EVERYBODY LIKES OUTDOOR SEATING NOW, AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A WAY THAT IF YOU HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING, THIS IS THE CRITERIA YOU HAVE TO MEET.
IT DOESN'T HAVE IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL TO OR AND GO THROUGH COUNCIL BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO DO OUTDOOR SEATING, AND WHEN I SAY, WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH AN SUP PROCESS, IT TAKES 60 TO 90 DAYS.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET A SITE PLAN INVOLVED.
LIKE, NEVER MIND, I WON'T DO IT.
RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE SIDEWALKS.
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE, BUT THE SIDEWALKS LEAD YOU INTO A DEVELOPMENT.
SO RIGHT NOW I JUST HAVE A SIDEWALK OUT THERE, BUT IF I WANT TO COME IN AND GO INTO YOUR DEVELOPMENT, I'VE EITHER GOT TO WALK THROUGH THE DRIVE AISLE OR I'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE GRASS. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IT SHOULD BE AN OPEN, INVITING PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO COME INTO.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON STRATEGY NUMBER FOUR? THERE'S A COUPLE OF ACTION ITEMS THERE.
INTERESTING. OKAY, I WILL MOVE ON.
THIS REALLY TALKS ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
I DON'T WANT TO BITE OFF MORE THAN I CAN CHEW, BUT PERMITTED LAND USE IS IMPORTANT.
LANDSCAPING IS, I THINK, JUST AS IMPORTANT, AND WE'VE HAD SOME CASES COME UP EVEN IN THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, THAT I WISH WE HAD STRONGER LANDSCAPING STANDARDS TO, TO ENFORCE.
SO I THINK THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO VERY EARLY ON.
IF WE WANT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO DO THINGS, THE CITY SHOULD DO IT AS WELL, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL BUILD THAT INTO WHATEVER WE DO, AND WE'VE GOT SOME FUTURE CONSTRUCTION ITEMS COMING FORWARD THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE, WE SHOWCASE AND WE CAN POINT TO DEVELOPERS.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK LIKE.
WE DID IT HERE. WHY CAN'T YOU DO IT THERE? SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES, LANDSCAPE DESIGN IN THIS AS ACTION ITEMS. WE ALSO TALK ABOUT STREETSCAPE AMENITIES.
A LOT OF THAT COULD JUST BE DONE.
I MEAN, YES, THEIR FACADES PROBABLY NEED SOME LOVE, BUT A LOT OF IT COULD JUST BE DONE BY STREETSCAPE AND UPKEEP AND LANDSCAPE, AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BUILD INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT IF YOU'RE DOING AN X PERCENTAGE, WHETHER IT BE BASED ON VALUE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE CAN GET INTO THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE TOUCHING MORE THAN X OF A BUILDING, THEN YOU NEED TO BRING SOME THINGS UP TO CODE.
I KNOW ARLINGTON HAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, OR THEY DID.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S STILL THERE, BUT IF A SHOPPING CENTER IS DOING CERTAIN THINGS, THEN THERE'S A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE WANT THAT SHOPPING CENTER TO BRING UP TO CODE.
LANDSCAPING BEING ONE OF THEM.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.
MAYBE LIGHTING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT WE WANT THINGS TO BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT UP TO CODE OR TO OUR STANDARDS TODAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? I WOULD POINT OUT IF YOU SEE ACTION NUMBER SEVEN, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME, SOME LANDSCAPE PEOPLE ON COMMISSION.
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ACTION NUMBER SEVEN TALKS ABOUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A PREFERRED LANDSCAPING MATERIAL, A PREFERRED LANDSCAPE LIST.IT MAKES SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS IS PRIMARILY IN RIGHT OF WAYS.
WE MAY COME UP WITH ANOTHER LIST ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT.
HOW DOES THIS INTERACT WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT.
SO THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE IS DOING THE ENTRYWAY PROJECT, AND MARCUS MADE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING MATCHES WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT WE'VE HIRED TO DO THE COMP PLAN THAT ASSIST US WITH SOME OF THE RENDERINGS AND THINGS THEY HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT WE HIRED TO DO THE ENTRYWAY THING SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, AND THAT'S A IS THAT AN ARBORIST THAT THE CITY'S HIRED OR? LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, I'M SURE THEY HAVE AN ARBORIST ON STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT, BUT YEAH.
WHERE WOULD IF WE'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF ASPHALT PARKING LOTS, I'M THINKING OF BIG LOTS.
[INAUDIBLE] WELL, THAT'S A CENTRAL PART OF OUR CITY.
WHERE WOULD THAT FIT? IN SEVERAL PLACES.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED.
IS VERY NECESSARY FOR THE CITY.
YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT RUN THROUGH MY MIND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REDUCING PARKING LOTS OR MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO PARKING LOTS.
IT COULD GO INTO THAT STRATEGY.
WE JUST OR THE ONE THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW, IT COULD FIT INTO THIS.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON WHERE WE TALK ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I'LL HAVE REALLY COOL PICTURES TO SHOW.
SO BUT YEAH, THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, LET'S PLANT ANOTHER MAGNOLIA, BUT COST WISE, IF WE KEEP PLANTING STUFF THAT'S GOING TO DIE RATHER THAN JUST GOING NATIVE AND STOP FIGHTING LIKE THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, NICE TOO.
YOU SAID THREE WORDS NATIVE TO THE BIOREGION AND SUSTAINABLE, I DON'T SEE.
I'M GOING TO, DO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THOSE THREE WORDS? NUMBER SEVEN. WELL, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT NUMBER FIVE, I THINK IS WHAT YOU.
OH, AND ONE MORE I DIDN'T SEE.
SORRY. UNDER LIGHTING, LIGHT POLLUTION, LIKE DECREASING OUR LIGHT POLLUTION.
SO I KNOW WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE HELP REDUCE LIGHT POLLUTION.
YES, THIS MIGHT BE A MINOR ITEM, AND NOT TO BRING UP A SORE SUBJECT FROM THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SCREENING, YOU DON'T WANT DECIDUOUS TREES THAT DROP THEIR LEAVES, AND AS I WAS WATCHING THAT PRESENTATION AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OFF CENTER AND I'M LIKE, WELL, SO WHAT WHEN THEY DROP THEIR LEAVES DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. SO YOU WANT AN EVERGREEN? YEAH. YOU WANT EVERGREEN.
I MEAN IT'S BUT TO ME, AND FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH TO ME, THE USING THE WORD SUSTAINABLE, WATER SMART, THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE OVERALL GOALS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
ON FIVE, ADOPTING THIS, WOULD THAT ALSO HELP US WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SUBDIVISION ABOUT
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AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHERE THEY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE REQUIREMENT IS 15%, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE AND THEY'RE DOING 20, AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YEAH, 20 IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS BIG OR YOU KNOW, WHERE IT OPENS SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS UP.YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ALL KINDS OF THINGS, WHETHER IT'S THE MCDONALD'S OR WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN PROPOSALS HAVE COME AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR GREEN SPACE CURRENTLY IS PRETTY LOW AND IT'S AN EASY TARGET TO HIT, IT DOESN'T REALLY GET US ANYWHERE, RIGHT? NO IT DOES. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT IN OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, BUT YEAH, THIS THAT TOUCHES ON THIS.
RIGHT. ALSO, I'D SAY THAT WE COULD INCENTIVIZE THINGS TO SAY THAT IF YOU PROVIDE YOUR, YOUR BASE MINIMUM IS 30%, 40%, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT TO THROW OUT THERE BUT IF YOU PROVIDE GREATER THAN 20, GREATER THAN 30% OR A SLIDING SCALE, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN WE'LL REDUCE YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT OR WE'LL REDUCE YOUR WHATEVER.
PICK WHATEVER YOU WANT YOU'RE WILLING TO REDUCE FOR MORE LANDSCAPING.
WELL, YOU CAN MAYBE IT'S WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE DENSITY IF YOU DO MORE OPEN SPACE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU SELL IT, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU INCENTIVIZE IT.
THIS IS AN EXCITING ONE TO ME BECAUSE.
WHILE PROBABLY MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T WANT A FREEWAY TO COMPLETELY BISECT THE CITY, IT'S A FUN CHALLENGE, RIGHT? SO AND I THINK WE CAN DO SOME REALLY FUN THINGS AND SOME REALLY CREATIVE THINGS, AND BUT WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH TXDOT WITH SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE IT IS A TECH START ROAD, BUT I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THROUGH ART, THROUGH TRAILS, THROUGH GATEWAY SIGNAGE. I'M JUST THROWING SOME THINGS OUT THERE.
I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT AS YOU'RE COMING INTO BEDFORD FROM THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN BEDFORD, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO SAY THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THIS DOCUMENT IS THESE ACTION ITEMS ARE TRYING TO GET US THERE TO DO.
COMPLAINTS. THERE ISN'T A IN HERE IS IT ASSUMED THAT SIGNAGE IS PART OF THE SOLUTION AS AN ACTION ITEM? FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE COMING OFF 183 OR ALMOST ANY OF OUR THOROUGHFARES, THERE'S NOT A SIGN ANYWHERE THAT SAYS WHERE CITY HALL IS.
IS THAT IT? OKAY. THAT IS AND IT'S IN HERE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CITY HALL IS.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CITY FACILITIES.
IT CAN ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT IS YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE PIDDINGTON FIELD IS.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MAY HAVE, AND I'M SURE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
ANY OF THE JUNIOR HIGHS? ANY OF THE JUNIOR HIGHS. ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GOVERNMENT.
THIS DOCUMENT. WHAT I DO LIKE ABOUT IT IS IT SAYS, DON'T GO OUT AND DO THAT TOMORROW.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THINGS HAVE SOMEWHAT SETTLED.
WE'VE STILL GOT SOME BIG THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEDFORD COMMONS.
SOMETHING SPECIAL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN BEDFORD COMMONS, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE ADVERTISING ON OUR WAYFINDING SIGN, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CALL IT BEDFORD COMMONS ON A WAYFINDING. YOU MIGHT, BUT YOU MAY ALSO CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON STRATEGY SIX? STRATEGY SEVEN REALLY TALKS ABOUT ARTS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.
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WE AND THIS WAS REALLY WORKED ON WITH THE, THE CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER AND, AND SO IT'S THE IDEA HERE IS TO TIE DEVELOPMENT, TIE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE CITY TO SOME TYPE OF ART IMPROVEMENT.THERE'S THINGS IN HERE AND WE TALK ABOUT SIDEWALK MURALS.
WE TALK ABOUT HARDSCAPING EVEN PUTTING ROTATING ART THROUGH MEDIANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO TALK ABOUT EVENTS BUILDING ON THOSE EVENTS.
FOR INSTANCE, I TALKED ABOUT TEXAS HARLEY WAY.
YOU COULD DO SOME TYPE OF EVENT CORRIDOR THERE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CITY EVENT BECAUSE TEXAS, BECAUSE HARLEY DAVIDSON DOES MOST OF THOSE EVENTS THERE, BUT IT'S THE CITY SUPPORTING IT IN A WAY THAT WE'VE MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG TEXAS HARLEY WAY TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO BRING PEOPLE IN.
YOU'LL NOTICE THERE IT TALKS ABOUT COMPLETING ON NUMBER FOUR ON THE ACTION.
IS THAT ALLUDING TO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? NO, AS WE WERE DRAFTING THIS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW COUNCIL KIND OF PUT THAT ON A, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D CALL IT A PAUSE OR JUST A REDIRECTION.
SO THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
THIS DOESN'T CALL OUT A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WAS KIND OF ON A HOLDING PATTERN, AT LEAST, BUT IT DOES TALK ABOUT, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING WHAT THIS SAYS IS YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TO DO PERFORMING ARTS.
YOU CAN INCORPORATE IT IN OTHER WAYS.
SO THAT MAY TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF A CITY LIKE OURS WANTING TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN.
THERE'S ALWAYS PARTNERSHIPS AVAILABLE.
YEAH. ONE [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT.
KIND OF TALKING, GOING BACK TO CONNECTIVITY AND THEN THESE ARTS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.
LIKE THAT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT IT'S ONE OF THE SECTIONS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS CONNECTIVITY IN THE MASTER OR IN THE COMP PLAN, MASTER PLAN, BUT I TO TAKE YOUR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS AT GENERATIONS PARK.
RIGHT, BUT WE'VE GOT OTHER PLACES THAT YOU CAN PARK TO, AND I THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD NECESSARILY NEED THAT SHUTTLE IF WE HAD GOOD SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTIVITY TO THOSE PLACES, AND SO WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN CONNECT.
ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK FROM TEXAS HARLEY.
SAFELY AND PLEASANTLY THROUGH BEDFORD COMMONS ALL THE WAY TO GENERATIONS PARK.
I THINK BEING THAT SPECIFIC WITH AN ACTION ITEM IN THE CONNECTIVITY PIECE ABOUT GENERATIONS PARK OR WHEREVER ALL THESE EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE HELD IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES ARE LIKE YOU KNOW LIST OUT THE ACTUAL PLACES AND WHERE ITS CONNECTIVITY, AND I THINK THAT'S A KEY ONE.
ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER EVENTS.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, AND I WILL KEEP MOVING.
WE'RE ALMOST DONE. WE'RE ONLY ON EIGHT.
THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT I'VE ALREADY SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT.
THROUGH DEVELOPMENT CODES, THROUGH INCENTIVES, WE CREATE THESE SPECIAL PLACES IN OUR, IN OUR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, AND I THINK WE'VE ALL LEARNED, ESPECIALLY AGAIN, COMING OUT OF COVID AND MAYBE IT WAS EVEN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE COVID.
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YOU SEE THOSE PLACES THAT YOU SEE THE I'LL GO SOMETHING AS BASIC AS PANERA BREAD, IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE OUTDOOR AREA OR A LITTLE GATHERING SPACE, THOSE ARE MORE POPULAR THAN ONE THAT YOU SEE ALONG THE FREEWAY, AND I WAS IN ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON, AND THEY HAD SOMEONE THEY HAD A LITTLE OUTDOOR AREA, AND THEY JUST HAD SOMEONE WITH A VIOLIN PLAYING MUSIC, AND PEOPLE WERE LOVING IT.IT WAS A NICE DAY AND IT WAS GREAT.
HOW DO WE CREATE THOSE PLACES IN BEDFORD? SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I REALLY LIKE THAT CAME OUT OF THIS I CAN'T TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR BUT ON THE ACTION ITEM AND THAT'S KIND OF CREATED AN IDEA BOOK AND PUT THINGS TOGETHER THAT WE CAN HAND OUT TO DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME IN AND SAY, WHAT DOES BEDFORD WANT? WHAT DOES BEDFORD WANT TO SEE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT? I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE APPROACH ME AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS PROPERTY.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
WHAT DOES BEDFORD WANT US TO DO WITH IT? NOW? THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT.
WE GET THAT, BUT IF WE CAN GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THIS IS OUR IDEAS BOOK, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE NEW DEVELOPMENT LOOK LIKE COMING IN AND WANTS TO HAVE THOSE SPACES TO GATHER, WANTS TO BE CONNECTED TO OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, NOT JUST VEHICULAR, BUT PEDESTRIAN WISE AND THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL, AND I THINK DEVELOPERS WILL APPRECIATE THAT, AND WE'LL GET SOME THINGS ACCOMPLISHED THAT WAY.
ANOTHER ONE IS A SMALL SCALE, VERY SMALL SCALE GRANT PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, EVEN TO DO SOME REDEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE GOALS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT THROUGH SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, CREATING OPEN SPACE BRINGING THEIR PROPERTIES UP TO A LITTLE BIT MORE, HIGHER STANDARD THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE ON THIS ONE.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CONCERNS. QUESTIONS? LIKES. DISLIKES? Y'ALL ARE ALL QUIET TONIGHT.
WELL, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THE TO ALLOW THE BEAUTIFICATION GROUP TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANSION OF THEIR AWARDS FOR YARDS AND BUSINESSES. EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AWAY FROM.
THE LANDSCAPING PHASE OF IT, BUT ALSO INTO LOOK AND YOU KNOW.
WALKABILITY AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THIS COULD ALLOW THAT GROUP TO EXPAND IN THAT PROGRAM AND EVEN GET SOME CITY SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF THAT COMMITTEE, TO WHERE NOW WE'RE RECOGNIZING BUSINESS AND WE'RE OUR OWN LITTLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RECOGNIZING BUSINESSES FOR THEIR NEW FACADE OR THEIR OUTSIDE SEATING OR THEIR ENTRYWAY OR SOME STUFF, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE UPSCALE RESTAURANTS DO IS THAT THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUILDING IS SOMETIMES LIKE THEIR BIGGEST ASSET BEFORE YOU EVER GET INSIDE.
WES YOU MENTIONED REDEVELOPMENT, AND MAYOR COOGAN MENTIONED REDEVELOPMENT IN HIS MEETING SATURDAY OR TWO AGO, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE HAS BEEN A PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT PARTNERS WITH, LET'S SAY, STRIP CENTER OWNERS WHO WANT TO REDEVELOP.
MAYOR COOGAN SAID THEY WERE YOU WERE RELOOKING AT THAT TO CHANGE THE INCENTIVE OR DO SOMETHING.
HAVE MANY BUSINESSES TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ONE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A FEW BUSINESSES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AMONG STAFF HOW WE DO WANT TO REVAMP THAT, AND WE THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'RE HOLDING OFF ON THAT UNTIL THIS DOCUMENT GETS APPROVED SO THAT WE HAVE SOME GUIDELINES AND SOME JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE FROM THIS DOCUMENT AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON WITH THAT REDEVELOPMENT, WITH THAT GRANT PROGRAM.
YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I LISTEN TO CITIZENS, THE ONE THING I HEAR, OH OUR STRIP CENTERS ARE SO RUNDOWN, BUT WE HAVE HAD AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT IN FAIRNESS, IN FAIRNESS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT WAS ADVERTISED.
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YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF I MEAN, PART OF THAT IS REACHING OUT TO THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS AND SAYING, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING.WE WANT TO HELP YOU DO SOMETHING.
YOU. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE.
ONCE THIS IS DONE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ANOTHER CITY.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, BUT WE HAVE OUR EYE ON ONE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CATER IT TOWARD BEDFORD, BUT BUT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS OUT THERE.
SO WE DON'T BELIEVE IN RECREATING THE WHEEL.
I MEAN, EVERY CITY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CITY.
ANYTHING ELSE ON STRATEGY NUMBER EIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO STRATEGY NUMBER NINE.
MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
I JUST AND I COULD HAVE PUT PICTURES AFTER PICTURES AFTER PICTURES ON THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, I CAN SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND YOU'D BE LIKE, OH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A FOUNTAIN.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE THINGS.
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUBDIVISION REG DOCUMENT OR A CHANGE, BUT ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON AND I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS. I CAN SAY IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT PARTICULAR TO ANY PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, BUT WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT, AND WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO COME IN, BUILD A DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN ALL OF THEIR DRAINAGE GOES TO THE STREET AND THEN IT'S THE CITY'S PROBLEM.
NO ONE WANTS THAT OR IT'S THE NEIGHBOR'S PROBLEM, BUT I ALSO HATE THE VISION OF A CITY THAT HAS EVERY LOT HAS A DETENTION POND BECAUSE THOSE JUST BECOME AN EYESORE AS WELL.
SO BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DESIGN AND WE CAN ENFORCE DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T, BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN WRITE AN ORDINANCE TO ENFORCE DESIGN OF A SITE THAT IF IT DOES NEED DETENTION, IT'S LOOKED AT AS AN AMENITY OR IT'S LOOKED AT AS MORE OF A MORE OF AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING YOU TOOL THAN JUST SOMETHING TO HOLD WATER UNTIL IT DRAINS OUT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IN MY 35 YEARS HERE IN BEDFORD, WE'VE LIVED ON DRAINAGE AREAS AND ONE WAS JUST A DRAINAGE AREA THAT CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORS, AND WHERE WE CURRENTLY LIVE, WE HAVE THE ONLY CANALS IN BEDFORD, AND THAT'S IT'S AN AMENITY AND IT WORKS WELL.
THERE WERE SOME THINGS THE DEVELOPER SHOULD HAVE DONE AND THE CITY SHOULD HAVE HELD THEIR HAND TO IT BUT WE WENT IN AND SPENT THE BUCKS AND DID IT, AND NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE I MEAN, THERE'S THOSE CANALS ARE EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, FIRSTHAND.
NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE TO THAT EXPENSE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT THINGS CAN BE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT IS IN SOME CASES, IT'S CHEAPER AND IT SAVES LAND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE MORE LAND TO BUILD ON THAN JUST A BIG DETENTION POND.
MR. OTTO I KNOW YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING.
DRAINAGE PLAN? WHERE IS THAT? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN.
I KNOW IT'S STILL IN THE WORKS.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU AND LET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD HELP YOU WITH THIS.
IT'S GOING TO PIGGYBACK AGAIN.
I'M SORRY? THAT'S THE OBJECT OF THE EXERCISE.
EXACTLY. SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP TABS ON THE DRAINAGE PLAN.
SURE, SURE. WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THAT WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN IT AND I KNOW IT'S UNDER THE WORKS. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE STATUS.
IS THIS SMALL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT GRANT PROGRAM, IS THAT FOR CITIZENS OR FOR PRIVATE SECTOR? ACTION NUMBER ONE.
OH THANK YOU. I WAS I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE FOR BOTH, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE IF YOU READ FURTHER ON, IT TALKS ABOUT MATCH EXPENDITURE FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT.
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I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN WITH A COUPLE OF CITIES NOW THAT HAD A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, AND WE WOULD EVERY CITY DOES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE CITY WOULD BUY A MASS AMOUNT AND SELL THEM DISCOUNTED TO THE RESIDENT, AND , OR I'VE SEEN SOME CITIES EVEN GO AS FAR AS SELL THEM TO THE RESIDENT, BUT ALSO WOULD GO OUT AND INSTALL THEM FOR FREE FOR THEM.SO THAT COULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE BOTH.
BECAUSE WE HAVE I MEAN, I'M THINKING OF A FEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES NOW.
SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S JUST MUD SLIDING DOWN.
WITH A GRANT LIKE THAT, BE ABLE TO LIKE A SYSTEM WITH LIKE THE COST OF LIKE CUTTING DOWN THE TREES SO THEY COULD HAVE GRASS SO THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY LIKE I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE I'M NOT 100% FAMILIAR WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A RESIDENTIAL OR EVEN A COMMERCIAL FOR THAT MATTER.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT WOULD WE COULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE.
THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE WHEN WE DO THAT PROGRAM.
ANYBODY ELSE? NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT STORM WATER.
THIS IS WHERE WE START GETTING A LITTLE CREATIVE, AND I LIKE IT BECAUSE.
GO AHEAD. SO HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PLAN.
STORM WATER IS OBVIOUSLY A PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTION.
SO THIS BECOMES THE CIP ITEM FOR THE CITY.
TO SOME EXTENT. SO WOULD THIS HELP? LIKE IF THEY HAVE TO GO IN AND FIX.
WORK ON STORM WATER SOMEWHERE OR WHERE IT CROSSES AN OPEN AREA, THEN THIS WOULD ALLOW.
YOU, THE CITY IN GENERAL, TO SAY, OKAY, WE GOT THIS PLAN.
THAT GOES TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH, AND SO NO, I THINK MOST DEFINITELY I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IN SOME CASES THE CITY STORM DRAIN IS A MUCH LARGER ANIMAL TO ATTACK THAN MAYBE A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT STORM DRAIN ISSUE.
SO YOU GOT TO SPEAK WITHIN REASON, BUT OVERALL, WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH STORM DRAIN OR STORM WATER IN GENERAL.
I'M GETTING A SENSE THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ON HERE ARE REALLY PREDICATING ON SETTING UP A SYSTEM TO WHERE THINGS ARE NOT DONE IN A VACUUM, AND IF YOU TOUCH THIS, THERE'S A MASTER PLAN THAT SAYS YOU OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WHICH HASN'T HAPPENED EVER BEFORE.
TIES THESE TOGETHER AND ALLOWS YOU TO WRITE THE CODE TO DO THAT.
RIGHT, OKAY, AND THAT'S THE IDEA.
I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO I WHATEVER HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST HAS HAPPENED AND IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY.
WE HAVE A VERY STANDALONE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
WE HAVE A VERY STANDALONE ZONING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
IT'S NICE. IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
IT'S NICE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY NEED TO GO TO THAT EXTREME, BUT WE DO NEED A SUBDIVISION REGS AND A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'VE AT LEAST BEEN IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER. SO, AND WHAT I SAID WASN'T NECESSARILY A BEDFORD THING.
I MEAN, HOW MANY TIMES JUST IT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY? HOW MANY TIMES HAS SOME CITY PAVED A STREET AND THEN TWO WEEKS LATER PUBLIC WORKS IS IN THERE REDOING THE SEWER? YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE GOES THE PAVED STREET.
I MEAN, IT'S TO WHERE THERE'S SOME, AND AGAIN, THINGS HAPPEN SOMETIMES YOU CAN CONTROL IT, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T, BUT BUT TO YOUR POINT, THIS DOCUMENT HOPEFULLY IS TRYING TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDES ALL DEVELOPMENT RELATED THINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO IS GUIDE THEM TO THIS A CENTER POINT.
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GOOD. TACTICAL IMPLEMENTATION.I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME OF THIS IN BEDFORD, BUT IT IS IT'S REALLY ESSENTIALLY JUST EXPERIMENTING, AND IT GIVES SOMEBODY, FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND YOU'VE GOT YOU'RE AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER BUILT OUT AND YOU'VE GOTTEN AND, BUT YOU WANT TO DO OUTDOOR SEATING.
LET'S PLAY AROUND AND SEE WHAT WORKS.
LET'S GIVE THEM A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO DO OUTDOOR SEATING FOR, LET'S SAY, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND THEY CAN TAKE HOWEVER MANY PARKING SPACES, BUT WE REGULATE WITHIN REASON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT LANDSCAPING THEY HAVE TO DO AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IF IT WORKS, THEN WE GIVE THEM X AMOUNT OF TIME TO COME IN AND MAKE IT PERMANENT.
IT TO ME AND IT A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T SAY THIS STANDING UP HERE, BUT I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM SAYING IT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING IT WHEN I MESSED UP, AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE WRITING THESE ORDINANCES AND YOU, THEY LOOK GOOD ON PAPER AND THEN YOU IMPLEMENT THEM LIKE CRUD, I FORGOT THAT IT HAPPENS.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. NO ONE'S PERFECT.
THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, LET'S TRY THIS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
IF IT WORKS GREAT, WE GOT IT RIGHT.
IF NOT, WE LEARN FROM IT AND WE CAN WRITE THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT BETTER.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WHAT DOES THIS DO THAT YOU CAN'T DO NOW? DOESN'T GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO TEMPORARILY APPROVE OUTDOOR SEATING IN A IN AN AREA.
OKAY, AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT TO.
I'M WILLING TO DO X, Y, Z OVER HERE, AND YOU'RE LIKE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK, BUT GUESS WHAT? I CAN'T APPROVE IT.
YOU CAN'T GET A VARIANCE FOR IT, AND SO YOU'VE JUST GOT TO MEET THE ORDINANCE.
IT GIVES ME SOME OPPORTUNITY TO AND WE'LL PROBABLY BUILD IN SOMETHING.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE STAFF TOO MUCH APPROVAL AUTHORITY, BUT IF YOU'RE PROVING SOMETHING FOR AND I FEEL LIKE I'M ECHOING A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF YOU'RE APPROVING SOMETHING FOR A THREE MONTH PERIOD, MAYBE YOU DON'T MIND STAFF APPROVING THAT IT.
IS IT GOING TO REQUIRE ANY KIND OF LIKE.
STUDIES THE RIGHT WORD, BUT LIKE, DID IT DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO? SO IF YOU GET A TEMPORARY PERMIT, YOU PUT IN YOUR TEMPORARY OUTDOOR SEATING, AND IT'S LIKE, DID YOU ACTUALLY LIKE, INCREASE SALES? LIKE, WHAT WERE THE PROS LIKE, WHAT WAS YOUR LESSONS LEARNED TO ACTUALLY LIKE GO FORWARD WITH A, YOU KNOW, A FULL DESIGN? AND THEN ALSO I'M WONDERING, DOES IT COVER LIKE POP UP KIND OF STUFF TOO? I THINK IT COULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH.
I THINK WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING INTO THE PROGRAM THAT I MEAN, IF YOU TALK ABOUT CELLS, PART OF ME THINKS I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR AND TOO DEEP INTO THEIR CELLS BUSINESS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT PERMANENTLY, I'M GOING TO ASSUME IT WORKED FOR THEM RIGHT BUT IT COULD DEFINITELY BE THE POP UP THING IF WE WANT TO DO A MAYBE IT'S A.
POP UP RETAIL STORE THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO COME IN.
MAYBE IT'S AN, I DON'T KNOW, SOME RETAIL THAT TODAY WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP.
MAYBE WE COULD DO IT FOR 3060 DAYS WITHOUT THE SUP, JUST TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THEM, AND IF IT DOES, THEN IT'S KIND OF ALMOST LIKE A BUSINESS INCUBATOR TYPE THING. THEN IT DOES, THEN, OKAY, THEY'RE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO.
I GUESS TO LIKE MAYBE PUBLIC FEEDBACK WOULD BE HELPFUL IN SOME OF THESE PUBLIC SPACES.
LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE RIGHT AWAY ROADS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
LIKE IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, OKAY, YEAH, YOU TRIED IT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ALL LIKED IT, LIKE IN THE PUBLIC SPACES, AND THAT'S I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I WAS FOCUSING ON LAND USE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S TALKED ABOUT IN THERE.
IF LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M JUST GOING TO PULL BEDFORD ROAD OUT OF THE SKY, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION AND WE DON'T NEED TO REPAVE IT ANYTIME SOON BUT LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TEN YEARS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO BEDFORD ROAD AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, MAYBE FOR THE BEFORE WE BREAK
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GROUND AND START DOING EVERYTHING OR GO THROUGH PLANNING AND OR GET CONSTRUCTION PLANS DRAWN FOR THAT.COMMUNICATIONS HAS GOTTEN REALLY GREAT.
COMMUNICATIONS DOES A GOOD FLASH VOTE, AND WE COULD DO FLASH VOTES.
WE COULD DO OTHER SURVEYS TO SEE IF PEOPLE LIKED IT, IF IT WORKED.
IN SOME CASES, I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE DRIVE TOO FAST DOWN MY STREET.
MOST STAFF DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING IN SPEED HUMPS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN NARROW THE STREET, MAYBE, AND WE CAN THEN GO BACK AFTER HOWEVER MANY DAYS OF DOING THAT, GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PEOPLE DRIVING TOO FAST ON THE STREET AND SAY, OKAY, WE DID THIS.
DID YOU NOTICE THINGS CHANGED? IF YOU DID, THEN GREAT. WE CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A CIP PROJECT FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE CAN DO THAT PERMANENTLY.
THIS IS PROMOTE AND CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT AREA OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO YOUR FACADE GRANT PROGRAM, YOUR REVITALIZATION PROGRAM OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, BUT GOES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND SOMETHING THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON, AND THIS GIVES US A BACKBONE TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S TO DO A NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
I THINK WE'RE PRIME TO REALLY BEEF UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? SINCE YOU'RE THE HEAD OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE INVOLVED WITH? YOU GOT MY CURIOSITY UP.
SO THERE'S I'VE BEEN A PART OF SOME AND THEN OTHER CITIES DO IT REALLY WELL THAT I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR, BUT THEY HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HELP NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HOAS, A GRANT PROGRAM THAT IF, LET'S SAY YOUR HOA WANTS TO DO A MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR SCREENING WHILE YOUR SCREENING WALL'S FALLING DOWN OR, OR THEY JUST WANT TO DO AN OVERALL REVAMP OF ALL THE LANDSCAPING AS A GATEWAY INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'LL DO A GRANT PROGRAM TO FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
OR IT COULD BE MAYBE THERE'S A VACANT LOT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WENT TO A CONFERENCE NOT TOO LONG AGO.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, AND CITY OF PLANO WAS FEATURED IN IT BECAUSE THEY FOCUSED ON GIVING GRANT PROGRAMS TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAYBE THEY HAD A VACANT LOT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO TREAT IT AS A POCKET PARK, BUT THEY NEEDED TO BUY IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T OWN IT AND THEY NEEDED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.
WELL, PLANO WOULD GIVE THEM MONEY TO DO THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO.
IT WAS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN OLDER POPULATION.
IN THE HOUSES WERE STARTING TO HAVE A LOT OF LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
THERE'S TONS OF GRANTS OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH AND GET.
THERE'S TARRANT COUNTY GRANTS, THERE'S HUD GRANTS THAT YOU CAN GET LIFE SAFETY THINGS TAKEN CARE OF, BUT SO YOU CAN TEAM UP WITH THAT PROGRAM, BUT ALSO PUT SOME GENERAL FUND MONEY INTO IT OR SOME OTHER GRANT FUND MONEY INTO IT.
THAT HELPS THE ESTHETICS OF THE HOUSE, WHICH BRINGS UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS. THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.
I DON'T SEE POLICY. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THERE'S NO.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL FIX THAT.
THIS IS REALLY JUST AND MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLANS HAVE THIS THIS SIDE OF IMPLEMENTATION. WE DON'T DO ANYTHING IN A VACUUM.
EVEN CITIES, THERE'S ALWAYS PARTNERS THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH.
WHETHER IT BE THE ISD, WHETHER IT BE THE HOSPITAL.
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IN SOME CASES, WE CAN EVEN PARTNER WITH AREA SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITIES TO DO DIFFERENT STUDIES IF WE NEED TO OR THINGS LIKE THAT.THAT'S WHAT THIS REALLY FOCUSES ON.
SO THERE YOU GO, BUT IT WAS CALLED A WATER SMART PARK, AND IT WAS A THIS COMMUNITY WAS DOWN ON THE COAST, AND SO OBVIOUSLY DRAINAGE WAS A MAJOR ISSUE, BUT WE GOT A AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS IT WAS A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS GRANT, BUT TO NOT ONLY PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR THE PARK BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDED A PARK ANYWAY, BUT WE ALSO DID ALL THE WATER SMART TECHNOLOGY OR TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU CAN DO. WE PUT THIS INTO A PARK SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE ACTUALLY WHAT IT DOES, AND THEN YOU HAD SOME LEARNING CAPABILITIES.
SO WE PARTNERED AND WE DID THAT.
WELL, I TAKE THAT BACK. THE CITY PAID A.
WE WANTED A TREE PRESERVED IN THAT PARK, AND SO WE PAID TO PRESERVE THAT TREE.
WE MOVED IT AND PRESERVED IT THERE, BUT NOTHING ELSE.
TIME TO ADMINISTER THE GRANT, BUT IT WAS A GRANT THROUGH ACTUALLY THROUGH TCEQ, TEXAS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, AND IT WAS ALSO THROUGH TEXAS A&M.
THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS CAME TOGETHER AND GAVE US THE MONEY FOR IT, BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT RAIN SWELLS LOOK LIKE AND HOW THEY OPERATE, WHAT RAIN BARRELS LOOK LIKE AND HOW THEY OPERATE, AND HOW THEY CAN UTILIZE THEM IN THEIR OWN HOME.
IT AND IT REALLY SHOWED THE, THE BENEFITS OF DOING PROPER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S A PARK THAT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE HOUSTON AREA GO TO EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT TEACHES THEM VERY IMPORTANT EARTH SCIENCE LESSONS, BUT AND SO THAT'S WHY THE STATE PUT MONEY INTO IT, AND THAT'S WHY A&M PUT MONEY INTO IT.
SO IT WAS JUST A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, BUT THAT'S MY ONE COLLABORATION STORY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS CONCERNS THAT YOU SAW WITH THE POLICY OR ACTION ITEMS ON NUMBER 12.
ON SOME OF THESE ART PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
RATHER THAN GOING OUT AND HIRING EXPENSIVE SERVICES, TO MAYBE PARTNER WITH THE HEBISD AND MAYBE TRY AND ENGAGE SOME OF THE STUDENTS WITH, LET'S SAY, A $5,000 SCHOLARSHIP WITH WHOEVER CAME UP WITH SOME ART DESIGN OR WHATEVER.
THAT COULD HELP US MIGHT SAVE US SOME MONEY AND ENCOURAGE OUR STUDENTS TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS AND, AND WHATNOT.
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT TO SOME EXTENT, AND THAT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE MY PURVIEW, BUT I KNOW THAT THE PREVIOUS CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER DID JUST THAT IN A LOT OF CASES. THAT WAS DONE ON I KNOW SOME OF THE WELL, LET ME STEP BACK.
SO SO I THINK WE CAN BUILD ON THAT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SECTION TALKS ABOUT.
SO BEFORE WE GET OFF THE MASTER PLAN, HAVE WE GOT YOU? GET MORE.
I'M DONE WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
YES IT WILL. I LIKED THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
ABOUT SOME OF THE LITTLE TINY MINUTE DETAILS THAT THIS GROUP LIKES TO DO.
HOWEVER, THE WORST PART OF THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT, IN MY OPINION, IS THIS VISION STATEMENT, AND IT'S THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS DOCUMENT.
OKAY, AND I DON'T USUALLY SAY THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S HORRIBLE.
OKAY, NOW YOU CAN TELL ME HOW YOU'D LIKE ME TO PROPOSE THAT.
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WORDING THAT'S USED IN THE REST OF THIS DOCUMENT, AND ALSO IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN.NONE OF WHICH ANY OF THE WORDS OF ALL OF THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS LITTLE PARAGRAPH.
OKAY. HERE'S WHAT I'LL AND THAT'S GREAT I.
MY HOPE IS MY ONLY HOPE IS OVER THE TOP.
MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
IT KEEPS THE SAME NECESSARY THEME.
BECAUSE WE'VE BASED A LOT ON THAT VISION STATEMENT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE BROUGHT.
SO IT THROWS ME FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOP, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
AS LONG AS THE OVERALL THEME IS, IS NOT CHANGED.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK, BECAUSE I TRIED TO INCORPORATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF, OF THE COUNCIL ON THE WORDS THEY USED AND THE WORDS THAT ARE IN THE MASTER PLAN T O MAKE THIS BETTER IS THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS DOCUMENT, AND THAT'S GREAT.
I'M GLAD YOU I'M GLAD YOU THOUGHT OF IT AND DID THE WORK.
I WOULD SAY IN DEFENSE OF THIS DOCUMENT, THIS DOCUMENT CAME OUT OF ONE OF THE VERY FIRST GROUP MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE WORDING CAME FROM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SEND ME WHAT YOU HAVE, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND I WAS AT THAT WORK SESSION AND I REMEMBERED SOME OF THAT WE ALL WERE AT.
OKAY, AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT I HAD AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL FOR THAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT UNIFORM.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YEAH, I JUST I JUST DIDN'T THINK THE WORDS, JUST ALL OF THE WORDS HERE JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THEY FIT ALL THE REST OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ALL THESE MONTHS AND ARE IN THE CURRENT DOCUMENTS IN THEIR PRESENT FORMAT.
OKAY, SO MAY I READ JUST PLEASE SENTENCE JUST SO I OKAY.
SO INSTEAD OF THIS SO THE VISION STATEMENT BEDFORD STRIVES TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY THAT VALUES THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY'S NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESS, COMMUNITY, AND CULTURAL VARIETY WHILE WORKING WITHIN A VIBRANT PLAN TO INCREASE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP DESTINATIONS AND POSITIVE OVERALL GROWTH.
THERE'S TWO MORE LITTLE PARAGRAPHS AFTER THAT.
IT ENDS WITH DISCOVER THE CENTER AS WE BUILD A BETTER BEDFORD FOR THE FUTURE.
I'LL SEND IT TO YOU, AND YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT I JUST AFTER READING ALL OF THIS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS AND THEN SEEING THIS, IT JUST DIDN'T SEE THE MESH AND I JUST STUCK MY BIG FAT NOSE OUT THERE AND [INAUDIBLE] YOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
OKAY. WELL, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF THESE OVER THE YEARS.
AT LEAST TWO, MAYBE, MAYBE THREE GOING WAY BACK, AND AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS SITTING OUT THERE IN THE PEANUT GALLERY AND USUALLY IT WAS, OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL, AND DAN BOUTWELL SAID THIS, YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.
RIGHT. I ABSOLUTELY LIKE THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT.
I MEAN, I TAKE NO OFFENSE TO IT.
I MEAN, IT'S FINE. IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S DOCUMENTS.
SO IT NEEDS TO REFLECT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR LIKE HIGH LEVEL ACTION ITEM THINGS, OR SHOULD WE EMAIL THAT TO YOU? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEM, BUT COULD YOU ALSO EMAIL THEM TO ME? YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE THE GROUP TO EVERYBODY TO HEAR THEM SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM.
OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING, I CAN PUT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM ON IT.
WHATEVER YOU PREFER. I CAN KNOCK THEM OUT QUICKLY.
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FOR THOSE, AND SO KIND OF LIKE IN THE WAYFINDING PIECE, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS LIKE IS WHEN THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE B, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR STREET SIGN AND IT SAYS LIKE WHISPER, WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR SUBDIVISION'S CALLED IF THEY'RE NOT, LIKE IN AN HOA, AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE MADE ME THINK OF THIS IS BRUCE IN IRELAND WHEN WE WENT, THE CITIES COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR THE CLEANEST CITY, AND SO IF YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPETITIONS WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR, LIKE, WE WON, YOU KNOW, NICEST CITY, YOU KNOW, OR NICEST NEIGHBORHOOD THIS YEAR WE WON.YOU KNOW, OUR ENTRANCE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THE BEST.
WHATEVER. LIKE THE LITTLE COMPETITIONS AMONG NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, LIKE, KIND OF GIVE YOU, LIKE, NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE WAS KIND OF THINKING OF, AND I SWEAR I SAW SOMETHING BEFORE ABOUT, LIKE, NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTIES, BUT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHO ORGANIZED IT OR SOMETHING.
IT WAS JUST LIKE A RECOMMENDATION ON NEXT DOOR.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING.
ALSO THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT GETS FUNDED.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WITH WHAT THEY'RE ADDING.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROBABLY WHAT I BECAUSE I ACTION ITEMS AT THIS LEVEL, THEY NEED TO BE SPECIFIC, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S IN HERE.
SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MAYBE ENCOURAGING THE MORE FORMALIZED ORGANIZATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS, IS THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING? RIGHT. OKAY.
I HAVE SEEN WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
IT'S CALLED TIDY TOWNS IN IRELAND, AND THEY REALLY TAKE PRIDE.
I MEAN, THESE COMMUNITIES COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER, BE THEY VILLAGES OR SMALL TOWNS.
SO IT'S REALLY NEAT. I'M SORRY.
KEEP GOING. I JUST THE OTHER ONE I WAS THINKING ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WOULD GO, BUT, LIKE IN THE PARTS WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY, THERE'S SOME SOME PIECES AND, BUT WHAT DIDN'T COME TO MIND, I DIDN'T SEE LIKE ACCESSIBILITY.
LIKE, YES, THERE'S WALKING, BUT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS, YOU KNOW, OR THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THEY GET AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE WE HAVE A BLIND PERSON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO KNOCKED HIMSELF OUT.
HIS TRUCK IS STICKING OUT IN THE STREET AND SO STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE THERE'S SOME KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO AND NOTIFICATIONS FOR THAT, FOR KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE WHO ARE NOT JUST WALKING OR DRIVING OR BIKES, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS COMES TO MIND, BUT ONE THING I DRIVES ME CRAZY.
LIKE I MENTIONED, PEOPLE ARE CUTTING DOWN THEIR SIDEWALK, THEIR TREES, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, BUT IF THERE'S A PROGRAM IN THE BEAUTIFICATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO ALSO MAYBE LIKE PUT TREES IN THE [INAUDIBLE] STRIP OR THE CITY OWNS IT, AND SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE SHADE OR YOU CAN ENCOURAGE WALKING IN THOSE PLACES.
I KNOW THEY SAID LIKE, DON'T YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO DESTROY ANY WIRES, IT'S NOT GOING TO MESS UP THE SEWER, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A BRAND OF BEDFORD, LIKE TREE LINED STREETS OR SOMETHING, MOST PEOPLE LIKE, AND SO IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A UNIFORM THING, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? MAYBE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LITTLE REDWOOD TREES.
MAYBE THIS ONE'S SOMETHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING WHERE.
WE'RE TAKING THAT NATURE PIECE AND THAT CITY BRANDING PIECE OF LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE IN BEDFORD? IT'S LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW, TREE LINED STREETS, SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE KIND OF BLENDING THOSE IDEAS WITH SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A NICE ACTION ITEM TO SEE BUT I WAS LIKE, NOT AS SPECIFIC AS AN ORDINANCE, BUT SOMETHING HIGH LEVEL IN THE VISION.
SO ARE WE OKAY? NO, I THINK THAT'S ALL GOOD.
IF WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS WE EMAIL THEM TO YOU.
YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. WES DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY YOU WERE GOING TO TRY AND LIMIT DOWN THE NUMBER OF CATEGORIES IN THE LEGEND? YEAH, SOME OF THEM WERE CONSOLIDATED.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING TO TRY AND LIMIT DOWN SOME OF THE CATEGORIES IN THE LEGEND, SOME THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE. YOU KNOW.
I DON'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOOD WITH THOSE CATEGORIES.
UNLESS I'M HEARING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, A SUGGESTION, MAYBE YOU COULD GROUP LIKE CATEGORIES USING
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SHADING. SO THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I GET A BETTER SENSE OF.THINGS. RIGHT NOW, IT'S SORT OF A RAINBOW OF OF COLORS.
I MEAN, I SEE CLEARLY SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SEE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S YELLOW ALL OVER THE BOARD, BUT WE KIND OF USE RANDOM COLORS.
I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST WOULD BETTER TO ME, IT WOULD BETTER DEFINE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A CITY.
WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR BUSINESS AREAS LOOK LIKE.
WHAT IS OUR RESIDENTIAL EDUCATIONAL, WHATEVER DO YOU THINK? LIKE A PATTERN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? IT'S NOT JUST RED, BUT LIKE IT HAD A PATTERN, SO IT WAS LIKE YOUR BUSINESS, LIKE IT'S ALL RED, BUT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A PATTERN OR SOMETHING OFF OF IT,.
LET ME PLAY AROUND WITH THAT AND SEE.
THAT'S OKAY. IT'S JUST IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT BECAUSE, I MEAN, I HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE TERM, THE LITTLE ABBREVIATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, BUT IF I KNEW, HEY, THIS SECTION IS ALL BUSINESS AND IT'S SHADES OF OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LEGEND TO SEE WHAT THAT SHADE WAS. I WOULD, BUT I WOULD KNOW THAT'S ALL BUSINESS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SHADES OF RED RATHER THAN, OH, IT'S A RED, A YELLOW, A PURPLE, WHATEVER, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
WELL, TO ME, I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY CATEGORIES, BUT IF YOU LOVE THE CATEGORIES, THEN AT LEAST LET'S DEFINE THE CATEGORIES INTO A GROUP AND YOU SHADINGS OF A COLOR TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE, THAT CATEGORY.
SO YOU KIND OF BOUNCE AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
WE WANT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BE A CERTAIN SHADE.
OH, HE'S TALKING ABOUT ON THAT, I THOUGHT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MAP TRANSLATE FOR HERE.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE.
OKAY. SO THE GROUPS OF HOW YOU HAVE IT GROUPED THERE OKAY.
THE RED PART IS PROBABLY ALREADY PRETTY CLOSE TO IT.
I MEAN, IT'S MOSTLY RED FOR BUSINESS, BUT OKAY, THREE DIFFERENT COLORS.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN AND PULL UP A CHAIR? NO. I'M GOOD.
I'M GOOD. WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB.
YEAH, VERY, AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT, AND ROGER TOUCHED ON IT.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE DOCUMENT AS YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO US TO HELP US WALK, BECAUSE WE'VE ALL WORKED TOGETHER FOR A WHILE.
I KNOW FOR ME, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE SIDEWAYS AND THE WHY YOU LIKE THE DOCUMENT AND WHAT IT DOES FOR STAFF, WHAT IT DOES FOR THE CITY WHEN IT'S FOLLOWED.
SURE. I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT OUT OF THIS.
I THOUGHT WE GOT 16 HOURS OF READING, YOU KNOW, 12 BULLET POINTS, BUT NOT THAT YOU'D EVER THOUGHT, BUT IT WAS MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN I THOUGHT, AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE MOVE ON TO UPDATE? UPDATE IS VERY BRIEF, BUT I WILL RUN THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY.
[UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS ]
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I'VE ADDED SINCE THE LAST MEETING.SITE PLAN WILL BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
WOODLAND HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH, SUP WAS APPROVED AT COUNCIL.
THEIR BUILDING PERMIT IS UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW, SO THAT SHOULD BE MOVING.
I THINK THEIR GOAL IS TO BREAK GROUND IN APRIL.
I'M SORRY. YEAH. GO AHEAD ON THE CHURCH.
DID WE SEE A PLAT FOR THAT OR WAS THAT JUST THAT WAS
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RIGHT ON THE ENTRYWAY.OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE TREE? IT'S THERE.
THAT'S ON GRACE PARK. THAT'S ON THE--NO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHURCH, THERE'S THE BACK BUILDING, THERE'S THE MAIN BUILDING, AND THEN THERE'S THE CORNER WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING TO BUILD THE NEW ONE. THERE'S A TREE RIGHT THERE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S YOU KNOW WHERE THAT. YEAH, I KNOW STEPS BACK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S LIKE THEIR YOUTH BUILDING.
THAT'S BACK RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.
I'LL HAVE TO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I REALIZED WHEN I SAW THAT THE OTHER DAY, I WAS LIKE, WE DIDN'T SEE A PLAT.
WE DIDN'T SEE DRAWING. YOU SAW A SITE PLAN? WE SAW A SITE PLAN, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE TREE.
I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. OKAY.
I'VE ADDED PARKWOOD TOWNHOMES.
THIS IS ONE THAT WAS APPROVED.
THIS IS GOING BEHIND ROCK ISLAND ON HARWOOD ROAD ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S A VACANT FIELD RIGHT NOW.
THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND THEY ARE PENDING A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YEAH, BUT THE CORNER PIECE OF THAT, THE CORNER PIECE IS NOT PART OF THAT IS NOT PART OF THAT, AND THAT IS ABOUT IT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE ACRE AND THAT IS ZONED.
OKAY. HEAVY COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE.
WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS ON THAT PROPERTY RECENTLY.
MOST OF THE USES STAFF HAS DISCOURAGED THE APPLICATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT HAS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE BACK THERE THERE'S WATER THAT STANDS.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE BACK THAT'S WHERE THE PARK THE TOWNHOMES ARE GOING.
YEAH, THEY'LL WRAP AROUND THAT.
SO THEY'LL BE A IT WILL BE A RETENTION POND MAYBE.
I DON'T THINK AND I'M NOW GOING OFF MEMORY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S RETENTION OR EVEN DETENTION.
I THINK IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPACE AREA.
SO I KNOW NOTHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN THAT AREA.
RIGHT, BUT I DON'T DO YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE IS A POND ON THERE.
OKAY, AND THEY MAY EVEN BE ENLARGING IT SOME JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE.
ALL RIGHT. MURRAY KUSTOM RIDES ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH I EXPECT THAT TO BE BACK ON YOUR AGENDA ON APRIL THE 11TH, AND THEN SO WHAT I ADDED, YOU'LL SEE A NEW SECTION.
I WAS ASKED TO ADD A NEW SECTION ABOUT JUST NON-DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION RELATED.
IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS JUST TOLD YOU WHAT STAFF IS WORKING ON DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION RELATED.
WE DO OTHER THINGS BESIDES THAT.
SO I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU.
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOU'VE SEEN MURRAY KUSTOM RODS.
WE ALL KNOW COUNCIL KICKED THAT BACK.
SO STAFF IS WORKING ON SOME AMENDMENTS.
AGAIN, I EXPECT IT TO BE APRIL 11TH.
WE JUST WENT OVER THAT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH ON THAT ONE.
I PUT IN THERE, I WILL SAY THIS MUCH.
I GUESS WE'LL LIE. I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON IT.
I PUT IN THERE THAT WE CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION BY MAY 2024.
I'M PROBABLY LOOKING AT JUNE, BUT SOMETIME IN EARLY SUMMER IS MY HOPE.
I'M SORRY. ARE WE STILL SOMEWHAT TENTATIVE ON A JOINT MEETING? THAT'S. THAT'S MY HOPE.
HAD HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT LATELY, I WAS CURIOUS.
I MEAN, I'M NOT TO A POINT TO SCHEDULE IT, SO THAT'S WHY I'VE KIND OF NOT.
YOU'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING, BUT THAT IS MY HOPE, AND THAT IS THE HOPE OF THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL, THAT WE CAN DO A JOINT MEETING, A JOINT PRESENTATION AND MY GOAL FOR THAT IS YOU WILL HAVE SEEN THE FULL DOCUMENT AT LEAST ONCE, IF NOT TWICE, BEFORE THAT MEETING, AND.
YOU'RE GOING THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY SIT DOWN WITH YOU, AND I SAY, SIT DOWN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION IN A JOINT ATMOSPHERE IS WHAT I'M ENVISIONING, WHERE THEY REALLY SHOW YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO USE THIS DOCUMENT, AND THAT IS THE ONE OF THE TWO OF THE THREE FOUR MAIN REASONS WE WENT WITH HALLS HILL TO HELP US WITH THIS PLAN, BECAUSE THEY BUILD PLANS THAT ARE REALISTIC AND THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, AND THAT'S WHY WE SPENT THE TIME TONIGHT GOING OVER WHAT WE WENT OVER.
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TOO MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN THESE PLANS DEVELOPED AND THEY SIT ON A SHELF AND YOU NEVER USE THEM EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THIS ONE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY GO OVER STEP BY STEP HOW WE USE THIS DOCUMENT.
SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE JOINT MEETING.
ALSO THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON P&Z BYLAWS, RULES OF PROCEDURE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU TYPICALLY HAVE P&Z TYPICALLY HAS BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE.
COUNCIL HAS RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND I THINK AND THIS IS JUST ME SPECULATING, WE'VE NOT HAD THEM IN BEDFORD BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR RULES ARE IN ARE SO MANY OF OUR THINGS THAT WOULD BE IN BYLAWS ARE ALREADY EITHER IN OUR CHARTER OR IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR STAFF.
WE'VE HAD A FEW ISSUES COME UP THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER ON.
SO I KNOW WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING IN APRIL.
I'M SHOOTING FOR EITHER AN 18TH OR 20.
I'M THINKING OF EITHER APRIL THE 18TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY, OR APRIL THE 24TH, WHICH IS A WEDNESDAY.
TO DO THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
THAT'LL BE OUR ANNUAL TRAINING.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ALWAYS DO ANNUAL TRAINING WITH COMMISSIONERS.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND THE CURVE ON THAT, BUT ALSO MY HOPE IS THAT WE'LL DO THAT AND WE'LL INTRODUCE THE BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE AT THAT MEETING. SO IT'LL KIND OF BE A WORK SESSION.
I'LL GET THAT EMAIL OUT TO YOU ALL.
TOMORROW YOU JUST MOVED TO 24TH INSTEAD OF THE 25TH.
YES. I THINK THAT, I MEAN, MY VANTAGE POINT THE SAME WEEK OF THE SCHEDULE, I DIDN'T WANT TO SOME PEOPLE DO CHURCH ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THAT. SO IT'S WHATEVER WORKS, BUT IF WE CAN GET A CONSENSUS ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE DATES AGAIN, I'LL SEND AN EMAIL OUT.
IF YOU CAN EACH RESPOND TO ME AND JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR YOU ON THAT.
ARE YOU GOING TO EMAIL OUT THE PROPOSED RULES? WELL, IT'LL BE LIKE ANY OTHER MEETING.
YOU'LL GET THEM BEFORE YOU'LL GET AN AGENDA AND PACKET BEFORE THE MEETING.
YEAH. OKAY. WALL SCREENING EXEMPTION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR SITE PLAN, WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S PARTICULAR CASE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A SCREENING REQUIREMENT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL, BUT SOMETIMES THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHEN THAT SCREENING REQUIREMENT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND SO WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO BUILD IN THAT EXEMPTION, AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
MR. OTTO. YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO. WELL, WHEN I WAS ON ZBA 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, WE, WE WENT THROUGH SOME OF THESE WITH ZBA ON VARIANCES.
IS THAT NOT THE CASE HERE OR YOU JUST WANT TO CLEAN THE THING UP.
SO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET A VARIANCE FROM A DIMENSION.
SO FOR INSTANCE YOU CAN ONLY GET A SETBACK VARIANCE FROM 5FT TO 0FT.
IT WAS UNDER THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION OKAY.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN.
WERE THOSE THE TOPOGRAPHY GOES UP AND DOWN AND THERE WAS SOME SCREENING ISSUES WHERE, YOU KNOW, OVERLOOKING, AND I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN ZBA.
WE GRANTED THE VARIANCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE, BUT I GUESS I MAYBE BECAUSE OF THAT THEY'VE CHANGED SOME OF THE ORDINANCES.
YEAH, I THINK THAT MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S CHANGED WITH THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY JUST DID NOT BUILD IN AN EXEMPTION PROCESS, AND JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHY OR ISSUES WITH THE LAND, SOMETIMES IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
IT'S JUST A RETAINING WALL TYPE DEAL.
I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF THAT.
FOND MEMORIES. I HOPE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY VARIANTS.
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I'M SURE. I'M SURE.AT THAT TIME WE SAW WE WERE MEETING TWICE A MONTH FOR ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN WHEN YOUR ZBA MEETS THAT OFTEN.
SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT BUILT INTO IT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, IT'S BEEN ON MY LIST FOR A LONG TIME.
WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT TAKING PRIORITY OF SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT I AM WORKING ON A SIGN ORDINANCE.
SO WITH THAT, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR AN UPDATE.
I ASSUME INCORPORATING THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN.
NOTES ON SIGNAGE? YES. AHEAD OF TIME OR KIND OF IN PREPARATION FOR THAT.
OKAY, AND AT THIS RATE, WE'LL APPROVE A MASTER PLAN BEFORE I APPROVE BEFORE I GET YOU A SIGN DRAFT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? I AM DONE, SO WE'RE ON FOR THE 11TH AND THEN YET TO BE DETERMINED ON A.
ON A DIFFERENTLY SCHEDULED RIGHT.
I'LL SEND OUT. LIKE I SAID, I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TOMORROW.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR LEFT HAND.
WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:12 THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.