Dec 12, 2023 City Council

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ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE BEDFORD CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

IT'S TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2023.

WE'RE GOING TO START TODAY WITH AN INVOCATION FROM PASTOR GARY TURNER OF DFW AIRPORT INTERFAITH CHAPLAINCY.

SO IF EVERYONE COULD GO AHEAD AND PLEASE STAND.

WELCOME, SIR. ETERNAL GOD, WE PAUSE IN THESE MOMENTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SOVEREIGNTY OVER ALL THE WORLD, AND WE AFFIRM OUR NEED FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND FOR YOUR WISDOM IN THE GOVERNING OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

YOU CREATED OUR WORLD AND BROUGHT FORTH ORDER OUT OF CHAOS, BUT WE CONFESS THAT VERY OFTEN OUR ACTIONS TEND TO GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

AS THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL PREPARE TO MEET, THEY COME SEEKING YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR INSIGHT INTO THE AFFAIRS OF THIS CITY SO THAT THEY MAY CREATE ORDER OUT OF THE CHAOS THAT WE LIVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

WE PRAY SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WOULD BRING THEM TO ONE MIND AND HEART IN THE BUSINESS ON THEIR AGENDA, SO THAT THEY MAY GOVERN IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THEIR CITIZENS. WE PRAY THIS IN YOUR MOST HOLY NAME.

AMEN. AMEN.

COUNCILMEMBER, DAWKINS, DO YOU MIND LEADING US WITH PLEDGES? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS.

THANK YOU PASTOR GARY.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

[COUNCIL RECOGNITION]

I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE MIC MR. DON HENDERSON. HOW'S IT GOING, DON? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

HOW ARE YOU ALL TONIGHT? I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE CHRIS SKINNER.

HE'S BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION HERE ABOUT HIM.

HE'S BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, LORI, FOR 24 YEARS.

HE HAS THREE CHILDREN, BAILEY, CHRIS JR.

AND TUCKER. BAILEY AND TUCKER ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH HIM.

HE ALSO HIS DAD IS HERE TONIGHT, JIM; I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM.

CHRIS LIKES TO HUNT, FISH AND COOK AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF HE EVER OFFERS YOU HIS MAC AND CHEESE, PASS, AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE HE GROWS HIS OWN PEPPERS, AND HE HAS A FASCINATION ABOUT PUTTING PEPPERS IN EVERYTHING HE COOKS.

SO PLEASE BE WARY.

[CHUCKLING] HE LOVES SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY.

THEY DO A LOT OF FAMILY TRIPS HE'S ONE OF THE NICEST GUYS I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, AND YOU ALL KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE.

HE ALSO DOES MORE THAN HE ASKS.

HE'S ONE OF THE HIGHER ACHIEVERS THAT WE HAVE.

HE'S A SOLID AND VERY HIGH PRODUCTIVE INDIVIDUAL.

HE IS LITERALLY THE BACKBONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

HE IS THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL THAT IF I HAD MY OWN BUSINESS, I WOULD SEEK HIM OUT FOR EMPLOYMENT.

I LIKE HIM AND RESPECT HIM THAT MUCH.

SO PLEASE CHRIS SKINNER.

[INAUDIBLE] WAS IT SPICY? OH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TRY IT THEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO NEED THAT RECIPE.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT AND BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATION OF THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

[PRESENTATIONS]

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO REMAINS IN A GOOD SHAPE.

WE HAVE GOTTEN IT TO A GOOD PLACE, AND NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT MAINTENANCE.

MAINTENANCE. SO OVER THE NEXT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 60 INVESTMENTS, ALL OR MOST OF THEM LOCKED IN AT LEAST 4.5% RETURNS.

SO WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE CONTINUED STRONG INTEREST INCOME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS WE'RE STILL FINALIZING OUR YEAR END, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS AT LEAST THE SECOND BEST PERFORMING YEAR IN INTEREST INCOME IN THE LAST 25.

SO THAT IS A POSITIVE OUTCOME THIS YEAR AND WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE IT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC NEWS.

FANTASTIC. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT, AND FOR GO AHEAD.

I WAS GOING TO BRING UP TIM PINON WITH VALLEY VIEW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFOREHAND OTHER THAN THAT'S AMAZING [CHUCKLING]

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IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DID TO MAXIMIZE OUR RETURNS? BASICALLY JUST HITTING A LOT OF SINGLES AND DOUBLES, JUST CONSISTENTLY INVESTING SOMETHING EVERY WEEK OR TWO UNTIL THE PORTFOLIO THE SIZE OF THE PORTFOLIO WANTED WAS INVESTMENT, WAS THERE.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BEAT THE MARKET.

I MEAN, IF I COULD BEAT THE MARKET CONSISTENTLY, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE WORKING HERE, [CHUCKLING] BUT AS A WHOLE, YOU JUST DO THE RIGHT THING EVERY DAY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND IT PAYS OFF.

AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TIM. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WHAT BRADY WAS JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT.

SO THIS IS YOU KNOW AT THE END THE END OF THE FISCAL QUARTER WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO WE LIKE TO AT THIS MEETING LIKE TO KIND OF DO A COMPARISON OF 2022 TO 2023 SO AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THE TOTAL PORTFOLIO IS UP ABOUT 7.5 MILLION. THE MAJORITY OF THAT CAME FROM THE BOND ISSUE THAT WAS FUNDED IN THE LAST QUARTER FOR $17 MILLION, AND THEN SOME FUNDS WERE SPENT AS PHASE NEXT IS WINDING DOWN.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME FUNDS GOING OUT, BUT WE HAD NET MORE FUNDS COMING IN FOR FOR THE YEAR ONE OTHER THING TO LOOK AT ON THIS SLIDE, AND AGAIN, IT GOES TO BRADY AND KAREN AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING.

IN 2022, 65%, SO THAT'S 65.8 MILLION, WAS IN THE OVERNIGHT SHORT-TERM FUNDS, WHICH WAS GREAT LAST YEAR BECAUSE RATES WERE GOING UP SO QUICKLY BUT IN SOME SLIDES WE'LL LOOK AT IN A MINUTE.

THE THOUGHT IS RATES ARE PEAKING.

THIS IS ABOUT AS HIGH AS THEY'RE GOING TO GET, AND AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO START TO COME DOWN.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THAT COLUMN FOR 2023 IS THE CITY SHIFTING ITS PORTFOLIO, ALMOST FLIPPING IT SO THAT SAME RATIO IS NOW FLIPPED, SO THAT A 60% CLOSE TO 60% OF THE OF THE PORTFOLIO IS IN SECURITIES AND CDS.

SO THE CITY IS LOCKING INTO THESE HIGHER RATES WHILE THEY'RE HERE BEFORE THEY START TO SLIP AWAY.

SO SO VERY NICE WORK ON THE ON THE CITY STAFF TO POSITION THE CITY WELL FOR THAT.

THIS IS JUST REFLECTIVE OF KIND OF A SHIFT OF HOW THE RATES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, AND SO AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 22, YOU CAN SEE THE RATES THERE FOR THE OVERNIGHT AND THE SECURITY RATES, AND THEN A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, BOTH RATES ABOVE 5% AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF LAST SEPTEMBER AND THEN THIS IS WE LIKE TO LOOK AT BENCHMARKS, AND SO IN 2022 AGAIN IT JUST REFLECTS THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES OVER THE LAST.

AGAIN THE 18 MONTHS HAS REALLY BEEN THE KEY THERE.

SO EVERYTHING AROUND 1% AT THE END OF 2022 FISCAL QUARTER, FISCAL YEAR, EVERYTHING ABOVE 4.5% IN 2023, SOME CLOSE TO 5%, AND THAT TRANSLATES INTO INTEREST DIFFERENCE, AND SO THE PORTFOLIO WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT MOST OF THAT CAME IN THE LAST QUARTER, BUT YOU'VE GOT INTEREST EARNINGS THAT ARE MORE THAN FOUR TIMES WHAT THE CITY EARNED THE PREVIOUS QUARTER.

SO NICELY AFFECTING THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THE RISING INTEREST RATES, AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK LOOK AT QUARTER TO QUARTER CHANGES.

SO AGAIN YOU SEE THE EIGHT A LITTLE OVER $8 MILLION INCREASE.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF THAT IS THOSE FUNDS COMING IN FROM THE BONDS CLOSING, AND THEN JUST KIND OF A NORMAL EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS DURING THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR EXPLAINING THAT, AND AGAIN THERE YOU SEE, IT WAS REALLY IN THAT FOURTH QUARTER WHERE THE PORTFOLIO REALLY BEGAN TO SHIFT MORE FROM THE OVERNIGHT FUNDS INTO THE LONGER TERM FUNDS.

SO REALLY, REALLY GOOD CHANGE TO BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF IN NUMBERS THERE, AND THEN THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT INTEREST RATES QUARTER TO QUARTER FOR THE PORTFOLIO UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT AGAIN RATES ARE KIND OF EVENING OUT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THERE AND THEN THIS IS FOR THE QUARTER.

THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, IT WAS 1.3 MILLION.

IF YOU ANNUALIZE THAT OUT, THAT'S A 5.2 MILLION RATE OF RETURN.

SO AGAIN, CAPTURING THE HIGHER RATES THAT THE CITY IS SEEING THERE, AND THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT AGAINST FISCAL YEAR 22, MORE THAN FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT THE CITY IS RECEIVING THERE, THESE ARE KIND OF THE OTHER BENCHMARKS JUST FOR THE QUARTER, SOME MORE CURRENT NUMBERS THERE, AND SO THE PORTFOLIO IS 5.2% STILL A LITTLE BIT BEHIND SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER INVESTMENTS BECAUSE IT'S A RISING RATE ENVIRONMENT.

SO DURING THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO IS GOING TO TRAIL THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE THAT CHANGE SO THAT THE CITY IS AHEAD OF THOSE BENCHMARKS AS RATES BEGIN TO FALL AND THE CITY IS LOCKED INTO THOSE LONGER TERM RATES.

JUST KIND OF A QUICK LOOK AT THE YIELD CURVE.

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SO THE RED LINE IS WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AGO IN SEPTEMBER, THE BLUE LINE THE MOST RECENT SEPTEMBER, AND SO YOU REALLY SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE ON THE SHORT END IN SEPTEMBER OF 22, THE RATES ARE A LITTLE UNDER 3%.

NOW THEY'RE BETWEEN FIVE AND A QUARTER AND FIVE AND A HALF.

SO YOU REALLY SEE THAT BIG GAP THERE.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS KIND OF STAYED IN THAT SAME RANGE BUT AGAIN, IT'S A NEGATIVELY SLOPING YIELD CURVE, MEANING THE MARKET EXPECTS RATES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN AT SOME POINT.

IT'S JUST KIND OF A QUESTION OF WHEN AT THIS POINT.

THESE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE.

THE MAIN THING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS HOW OFTEN THE FED HAS CHANGED RATES.

THEY'VE RAISED RATES 11 TIMES OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, STARTING IN MARCH OF 2022, AND IF YOU KIND OF GO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MARCH, MAY, JUNE, JULY, SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, FEBRUARY, MARCH, MAY, JUST ABOUT EVERY MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH.

THEY ARE RAISING RATES, BUT THE LAST TIME THEY RAISED RATES WAS JULY.

SO WE'RE NOW FIVE MONTHS, ACTUALLY FOUR MONTHS IN AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER FED MEETING TOMORROW.

SO THAT'LL BE IN THE NEWS.

WHAT IS THE FED GOING TO DO, AND THE EXPECTATION IS THE RATES WILL STAY WHERE THEY ARE, BUT YOU CAN SEE RAPIDLY RISING RATES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE DEFINITELY HIT A PAUSE IN WHAT THE FED IS DOING.

THIS IS WHERE WE WERE LAST QUARTER.

THIS IS KIND OF THE CRYSTAL BALL, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHAT THE EXPERTS THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND SO ON THE LEFT IS WHERE THEY THINK THE RATES WILL BE.

THE RIGHT IS HOW MANY [INAUDIBLE] HOW MANY CUTS THEY THINK WE'LL GET.

SO OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, GOING INTO THE END OF THIS COMING YEAR, THEY THINK THEY'LL THEY'LL CUT THE RATE FOUR TIMES AND BRING THE RATES DOWN TO ABOUT 4.25%.

WE'RE AT FIVE AND A QUARTER RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 100 BASIS POINT DROP.

THIS WAS LAST QUARTER.

IT DOES CHANGE ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

SO NOW THEY'VE UPDATED IT A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GO BELOW 4% MAYBE AROUND FOUR AND THREE QUARTERS IN JANUARY OF 25, BUT JUST ABOUT 13 MONTHS FROM NOW.

SO BECOMING A LITTLE MORE EXPECTATIONS OF MORE CUTS IN RATES.

SO AGAIN, JUST MAKES THE CITY'S MOVE INTO THOSE LONGER TERM SECURITIES ALL THAT MUCH WISER AND A GOOD MOVE THERE.

ONE OTHER THING THE CITY IS DOING IS INVESTING IN CDS OVER AGENCIES, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD NETWORK OF BANKS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT LIKE THE LARGE MUNICIPAL DEPOSITS.

SO WE GO OUT AND WE SOLICIT COMPETITIVELY FOR THEM, AND SO BY DOING THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO PICK UP ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 40 BASIS POINTS OVER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT RATE RETURNS ARE, AND THESE ARE ALL PLEDGED OR SECURED BY COLLATERALIZED DEPOSITS.

SO THEY'RE FULLY PROTECTED, BUT THE CITY IS EARNING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAIN.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $100 MILLION PORTFOLIO, IF YOU CAN PICK UP 40 BASIS POINTS, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES ON THE ECONOMY ITSELF.

INFLATION IS REALLY ONE OF THE KEY NUMBERS, AND THAT'S WHAT HAS PROMPTED THE FED TO RAISE RATES SO AGGRESSIVELY.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INFLATION UNDER CONTROL.

IT IS COMING DOWN, AND AGAIN WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THEY MET IN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THEY MET TODAY AND TOMORROW WILL BE THEIR RATE ANNOUNCEMENT.

EXPECTATION IS THEY WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'LL STAY WHERE IT IS, AND AGAIN THE TARGET RATE FOR INFLATION IS 2%.

SO THEN JUST KIND OF A COUPLE OF OTHER HIGHLIGHTS.

OVERALL THE GDP FOR THE FOR THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN 2.1% FOR 2023, AND IT WAS ESTIMATED TO BE A 1%.

SO THAT WAS A POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT THERE.

UNEMPLOYMENT HAS STAYED STRONG, AND SO THAT HAS ALLOWED THE FED TO LEAVE THE RATES UP.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FORCED TO LOWER RATES.

AGAIN, A NUMBER ANOTHER MEASURE OF INFLATION PUTS IT AT 3.9% YEAR OVER YEAR, AND HOME PRICES AGAIN ARE REALLY ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE CONSUMERS ARE BEING IMPACTED BECAUSE PRICES ARE PRETTY HIGH, AND THEN YOU ADD TO THAT THE INTEREST RATES HAVE RAISED THE AVERAGE MORTGAGE RATE ON A 30 YEAR UP TO 7.3%.

SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE LEVELS IN A LONG TIME.

THAT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT.

AGAIN INCREASE TO THOSE MONTHLY HOME PAYMENTS FOR A NEW HOMEBUYER.

SO THAT ALSO PUTS A DRAG ON THE ECONOMY.

IT BRINGS INFLATION DOWN, BUT IT ALSO IMPACTS IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY THE ECONOMY TOO.

SO JUST KIND OF A STRATEGY KEEP LADDERING LIKE BRADY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IN OCTOBER, THE CITY INVESTED IN SEVEN CDS TOTALING $11 MILLION.

SO A NICE MOVE THERE.

A LOT OF THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THOSE BOND PROCEEDS AND THEN WITH THOSE PROJECTS, WE ESTIMATE WHAT THE SPEND SCHEDULE IS.

HOW LONG WILL THE CITY HAVE THOSE FUNDS, AND THEN YOU INVEST ACCORDINGLY.

SO THAT'S A QUICK LOOK, HOPEFULLY QUICK ENOUGH AT THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO PERFORMANCE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, TIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME OUT AND LAYING THAT ALL ALL OUT.

I ALWAYS FIND IT FASCINATING LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE INCLUDING IN OUR PRESENTATIONS, THE FORECASTS, YOUR CRYSTAL BALL, IF YOU WILL.

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I THINK I HOPE IT GOES TO SHOW THAT WE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS.

WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT MOVES FINANCIALLY AND BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY TO EARN AS MUCH AS WE CAN TAKING, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE INTEREST RATES.

SO SECOND BEST PERFORMING YEAR IN THE LAST 25 YEARS.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY DARN GOOD. EXACTLY.

EXACTLY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

KUDOS TO THEM. SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP WE HAVE A FOURTH QUARTER FINANCE REPORT.

STRATEGIC SERVICES MANAGER MEG JAKUBIK.

EVENING, MEG. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO.

YES, TONIGHT WE ARE WE HAVE OUR FOURTH QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT SO I WILL GIVE MY USUAL CAVEAT.

THESE FIGURES ARE UNAUDITED.

IN FACT, OUR AUDITORS ARE CURRENTLY ON SITE DOING THEIR FINAL FIELDWORK, AND THEY WILL PRESENT, OF COURSE, THEIR FINAL REPORT TO YOU AT A LATER TIME, ONCE THAT'S ALL COMPLETED BUT IF WHEN YOU GET YOUR FINAL REPORT FROM OUR AUDIT TEAM AND THEY DIFFER FROM THIS, THAT'S BECAUSE OUR AUDITORS MADE ADJUSTMENTS. SO WHICH IS COMMON AND AN EXPECTED PRACTICE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG FOR YOU GUYS TO KIND OF GET THAT BIGGER PICTURE OF HOW WE ENDED THE YEAR. SO WE HOLD THIS REPORT A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER QUARTER REPORTS TO TRY TO GET AS MANY OF THOSE CORRECTING ENTRIES IN BEFORE WE GIVE YOU NUMBERS.

SO IT'S AS BEST A PICTURE AS WE CAN PRESENT FOR YOU BEFORE THE AUDIT IS FINALIZED.

SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND, YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S OUR REVENUE.

SO THAT BOTTOM BAR IS WHAT WE BUDGETED.

THE ORANGE BAR IS WHERE WE SAW HAD OUR PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT IN JULY AND USING THAT TO BASE OUR DISCUSSIONS FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET AND THEN THE TOP BAR IS WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY SITTING IN QUARTER FOUR SO FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE WANTED TO SEE IT, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES PROPERTY TAX, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT'S GOING TO STILL GET A SMALL ADJUSTING ENTRY.

SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN THOSE NUMBERS BUT SALES TAX CAME IN PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE HAD ON PROJECTIONS, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE WITH THE UNCERTAINTIES OF THE MARKET SALES TAX BEING SO TIGHTLY TIED TO CONSUMER SPENDING WE WOULD LIKE OUR CRYSTAL BALL TO BE A LITTLE BIT NARROWER, BUT IT IS NICE TO SEE THE NUMBERS DID KIND OF HOLD WHERE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HOLD TO FRANCHISE TAXES COMING IN.

WELL CHARGES FOR SERVICES AGAIN.

SO ALL OF THESE REVENUE CATEGORIES I WILL CALL OUT LICENSES AND PERMITS CAME IN BETTER THAN EVEN WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING.

SO ONE OF THOSE NICE CATEGORIES TO SEE, AND KUDOS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM THERE IF WE LOOK AT YEAR OVER YEAR AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PICTURE WE EXPECT TO SEE FY 22 IS THE BOTTOM BAR IN BLUE FY 23 IS THE TOP BAR IN ORANGE FOR EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.

SO AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE.

WE'RE SEEING YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH IN OUR REVENUE CATEGORIES.

MOVING ON TO EXPENDITURES.

AGAIN. THAT SAME SETUP IS WHAT WE HAD ON THE REVENUE SIDE.

WE HAVE OUR BUDGET BAR AT THE BOTTOM, PROJECTIONS IN THE MIDDLE, AND WHERE OUR ACTUAL Q4 WAS IN YELLOW ON THE TOP FOR THE MOST PART, OUR DEPARTMENTS ON A WHOLE CAME IN RIGHT AT OR BELOW PROJECTIONS.

WE DO HAVE A FEW THAT WERE OVER ACTUALLY THE OFFSET WHERE WE DIDN'T QUITE READ OUR REVENUE WAS AT LEAST MATCHED BY WE DIDN'T GO QUITE THAT HIGH IN EXPENDITURES.

SO WE HAD ABOUT THE DELTA BETWEEN REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET DOCUMENTS, WHICH IS A NICE NUMBER TO SEE WHEN IT ALL SHAKES OUT IN THE END.

SO REAL QUICK ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES LOOKING AT FIRE I'M ASSUMING.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME. WHY ARE WE OVER OUR BUDGET AMOUNT ON THAT ONE? OVERTIME IS A LOT OF IT.

I THINK SOME OF THE DEPLOYMENT NUMBERS ARE STILL IN THERE, TOO WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON REIMBURSEMENTS AND SO, AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE WE'LL SEE A FEW MORE AND THAT'S.

EVERY YEAR IS OVERTIME WITH FIRE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE, WE PREDICT IT IS A PART OF THE GAME.

I WILL POINT OUT THE, THE BENEFIT TO THEM.

THEY ACTUALLY PROJECTED THEY WERE GOING TO BE HIGHER AND DIDN'T QUITE REACH THAT SO I DO LIKE TO SEE THAT BUT YES, THEY DID EXCEED THEIR BUDGET NUMBERS AND IT IS A FUNCTION OF OVERTIME BEING A PART OF THAT.

YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE SALARY SAVINGS ON FIRE BECAUSE OF THE MINIMUM STAFFING REQUIREMENTS, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WATCH, AND THEN AS WE SEND THE

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SO SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE SOME LAG IN THAT AS WELL.

GOTCHA AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WAS THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I THOUGHT WE UH, SO ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES ALSO INCLUDES NON-DEPARTMENTAL, WHICH IS THOSE BROADER, CITYWIDE EXPENSES AND SO THAT WAS WHERE THE OVERAGES WERE NOT IN OUR OPERATING DIVISIONS.

GOT IT. YES. THANK YOU AND THEN AGAIN, COMPARISON YEAR OVER YEAR, OF COURSE.

LAST YEAR DEVELOPMENT HAD A BIG ONE TIME PURCHASE WHICH IS SHOWING THE $10 MILLION FOR THAT DEPARTMENT THERE.

THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A REOCCURRING SO BUT EXPENSES AGAIN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, EXPENDITURES WERE WITHIN BUDGETED NUMBERS CLOSE TO PROJECTION NUMBERS. SO WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH THE RESOURCES THEY'VE BEEN ALLOCATED.

MOVING ON TO WATER AND SEWER FUND.

THIS WAS I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE NUMBERS ON WATER AND SEWER.

OUR WATER AND SEWER CHARGES WERE SELLING WATER.

WE'RE TREATING THE WATER.

THOSE REVENUES NUMBERS WERE COMING IN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE THREE YEAR ON MISCELLANEOUS LAST YEAR'S NUMBER INCLUDED AN AUDIT ADJUSTMENT TRANSFER.

SO THAT WAS AN OUTLIER YEAR THAT WE DON'T EXPECT AND IT'LL NORMALIZE BACK OUT AS WE PROCEED INTO THE FUTURE THERE BUT THE REVENUE NUMBERS WERE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

WE MET BUDGET ON OUR SEWER CHARGES.

ON OUR WATER CHARGES AND THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCES FOR THAT FUND.

EXPENSE SIDE AGAIN, THIS IS A THREE YEAR LOOK.

SO THIS ISN'T COMPARING BUDGET PROJECTIONS.

THIS IS JUST FY 21, 22 AND THEN 23 AGAIN, WITHIN THE EXPENSE, BUT WITH THE HIGHER REVENUE CHARGES, WE KNOW THERE WILL BE A HIGHER EXPENSE CHARGE, GIVEN THAT THE BULK OF THE EXPENSES IN THAT FUND ARE THE WATER PURCHASE AND THE WATER TREATMENT WITH THE TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT REFLECTED THEN ON THE EXPENSE SIDE AS WELL, AND THEN HIGHLIGHTING THROUGH OUR OTHER FUNDS.

TOURISM IS SEEING VERY HEALTHY REVENUE.

WE DO STILL HAVE TWO HOTELS THAT ARE DELINQUENT.

STAFF IS WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEYS AND BEING VERY DILIGENT IN FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT SO IT IS ON THE RADAR.

THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH PLANS WITH THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO THAT ARE DELINQUENT IN THE NUMBERS EXPENSES VERY SLIGHTLY ABOVE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR OF COURSE, WE DID HAVE A RETURN OF A SIGNATURE EVENT AND SO THAT ACTUALLY PUSHED US TO BUDGET AS OPPOSED TO A LOT PRIOR, FOR YEARS WHERE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO OUR BUDGETED FIGURES ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.

SO VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND TOURISM REVENUE CAME IN HIGHER THAN THAN EXPECTED, AND SO THAT FUND IS LOOKING VERY HEALTHY.

STORMWATER FEES.

I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

EVERY TIME I PRESENT ON STORMWATER WE GET IN OUR STORMWATER FEES.

IT'S THE MOST CONSISTENT REVENUE SOURCE.

NOTHING ALARMING THERE AND AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE WAIT FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO COMPLETE THE STORMWATER PLAN AND WHAT THAT EVENTUALLY DOES ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.

OKAY, MEG, EVERY TIME I HEAR IT, AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT MY PACKET AND I SEE, I SEE THIS, I HEAR YOUR VOICE IN MY HEAD SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING.

IT'S STORMWATER.

YEAH I'LL TRY TO FIND SOMETHING TO JAZZ IT UP.

THERE'S NOTHING TO JAZZ THAT ONE UP.

NEXT TIME, NEXT TIME.

4B, OF COURSE, SALES TAX IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCE HERE SO MUCH LIKE WE'RE SEEING IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE SEEING THE IMPROVEMENT HERE AGAIN.

I FEEL LIKE BROKEN RECORD THERE AS WELL AND THEN AS WE'VE BEEN SHOWING YOU WITH OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS YOU CAN SEE HERE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ALLOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AMONGST THE DIFFERENT AREAS ON THEIR NEEDS, USING THOSE FUNDS AS ALLOWED.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH.

HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT THROUGH FIRE HAS WE'RE WAITING TO SPEND ON A MEDIC UNIT THAT WAS REPLACED.

SO THAT'S THE BULK OF WHAT'S SITTING OVER THERE.

PUBLIC WORKS HAS A SMATTERING OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH AND SO PRETTY MUCH YOUR REMAINING DEPARTMENTS, THEY'VE COMPLETED THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS.

WE HAVE A FEW THERE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS STAFF IDENTIFIES OTHER PROJECTS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR USE OF THOSE FUNDS BUT WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR QUARTERLY REPORTING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WORKING THROUGH UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS IN THE TIME WE HAVE ALLOWED TO USE THEM.

SO HOW MUCH ARPA FUNDS DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE HAVE NOT SPENT?

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WE HAVE SPENT JUST OVER 5 MILLION BUT COMMITTED FUNDS, WHICH WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE ORANGE AMOUNT IS RIGHT AT ABOUT 6.2, 6.3 MILLION.

SO WE DO HAVE ABOUT 7.1 REMAINING, NOT YET FULLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR A SPEND PLAN ALTHOUGH I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN TALKING WITH YOU, THERE ARE EARMARKED FUNDS.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO BUDGET.

APPROVE IT AT THOSE AT THIS POINT.

GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

SO THAT IS THE GENERAL OVERVIEW.

OF COURSE, YOU HAD THE FULL REPORT IN YOUR PACKET, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, MEG.

LOOKING AT THAT, ALL IN ALL, I'M HEARING GOOD NEWS.

I MEAN, REVENUES ARE UP ACROSS THE BOARD, WHICH IS GOOD.

SALES TAX, UP ABOUT 5% FROM LAST YEAR, AND OUR TOURISM FUND IS DOING AMAZING.

SO PEOPLE ARE STAYING IN OUR HOTELS.

YES. SO THAT'S GOOD QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MEG. APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE CONSIDER APPROVAL BY ITEMS.

[CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ITEMS BY CONSENT]

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU COUNCIL, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE FIRST ITEM OR FIRST TWO ITEMS ARE COUNCIL MINUTES.

ONE OF THEM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 SPECIAL SESSION COUNCIL MINUTES, AND THEN THE NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023 REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL MINUTES, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS A NEW MEMBERSHIP IN THE THOMSON REUTERS CLEAR PROGRAM.

IT'S A LICENSE BASED ONLINE INVESTIGATIVE SOFTWARE THAT'S DESIGNED TO AID IN THE INVESTIGATION OF CRIMINAL OFFENSES AND ACTIVITY, AND THE TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE IS $94,378. THE NEXT ITEM IS, AND THIS IS THE ARPA FUNDS THAT MEG SPOKE OF.

THIS IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TEXAS, APPROVING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT APPROPRIATION PLAN AND RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING EXPENDITURES WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 CORONAVIRUS LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUND BUDGET FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE RENOVATION OF CITY HALL BUILDING C, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1805 ELDON DOTSON UTILIZING JAW ARCHITECTS, INC. IN AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $15,000.

BASICALLY, BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED COST FOR CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED BY AN ARCHITECT, AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT SPACE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES ON SITE.

THE THIRD AND FINAL ITEM IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 PAYMENT TO THE NORTHEAST TRANSPORTATION SERVICES URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT.

THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $74,884, AND IT'S FOR THE OPERATION OF AN ON DEMAND TRANSPORTATION SERVICE.

THIS SERVICE IS GEARED TOWARDS PROVIDING THE ON DEMAND TRANSPORTATION SERVICE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, AND WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER SINCE 2002, AND THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE ARE THAT ARE IN THE COALITION ARE EULESS, GRAPEVINE, HALTOM CITY, KELLER, HURST, AND NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU CITY MANAGER JIMMY STATHATOS.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.

FOR THE DATABASE, THIS IS LICENSE RECOGNITION SOFTWARE, CORRECT, AND SO IS THIS GOING TO AUGMENT OUR FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM? ACTUALLY, CAN I DEFER TO THE CHIEF? I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.

CHIEF'S BEEN WORKING MORE CLOSELY ON THAT ONE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY SEPARATE THAN THE THAN THE FLOCK SYSTEM.

THIS IS MORE AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO HELP GATHER INFORMATION ON SUSPECTS AND ALSO MISSING PEOPLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS FAR AS RESIDENTS, VEHICLES ATTACHED TO THOSE PEOPLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S A SEPARATE SYSTEM.

IT JUST IT BRINGS A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE USE ALL TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE AND MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR THE DETECTIVES TO SOLVE CRIMES QUICKER.

GOTCHA. IMPROVING EFFICIENCY THEN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT ALL RIGHT, AND REAL QUICK FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR BUILDING C, DO WE HAVE A GOAL OF WHEN WE WANT THAT, WANT HUMAN RESOURCES AND FINANCE TO MOVE OVER THERE? I SEE ANDREA COMING.

I'M THINKING BY MID TO LATE SUMMER, ANDREA, IS THAT STILL ACCURATE? ANDREA HAS BEEN MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH THIS PROJECT.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY SEPTEMBER WOULD BE OUR LATEST.

ALL RIGHT SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S OUR GOAL. AT LEAST THAT'S OUR GOAL.

THAT'S THE END GOAL. SO HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN THAT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS I'LL ENTERTAIN.

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I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU STAFF.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM.

I HAVE TO MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, I BELIEVE, FOR THIS, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING, TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 4.181 ENTITLED MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY

[9. Public hearing and consider an ordinance amending Section 4.18(I) entitled Master Highway Corridor Overlay District – Development Standards of Appendix B of the Code of Ordinances entitled Zoning Ordinance. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0-0.]

SO I GIVE YOU DIRECTOR WES MORRISON.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS THE ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES A MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE FREEWAY FOR PROPERTIES ALONG THE FREEWAY, AND ONE OF THE ON THE SCREEN, THERE IS JUST THE MAP THAT SHOWS IN THE BLUE.

IT SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE OVERLAY ALONG WITH SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

IT ADDS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF LANDSCAPING, INCREASED LANDSCAPING ADDS ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AS FAR AS PERMITTED USES, MAYBE ADDS ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AS FAR AS RESTRICTED USES, AND THEN ALSO TALKS ABOUT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL, WHICH IS THE FOCUS OF THIS AMENDMENT.

OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE FOUND THAT AS STAFF HAS BEEN ENFORCING THESE REGULATIONS, ONE REGULATION COMES BACK EVERY TIME FROM DEVELOPERS.

THAT IS, THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MEET, AND THAT IS FOR BUILDINGS 5000FT² OR LESS.

THE REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT A PITCHED ROOF BE THE BUILDING, BE EQUIPPED WITH A PITCHED ROOF INSTEAD OF A FLAT ROOF AND SO A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT JUST TRENDS IN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS, AND SO STAFF HAS DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH JUST COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES UP AND DOWN THE COURT. THE 121 183 CORRIDOR, AND I KIND OF PROVIDE YOU SOME PICTURES HERE THAT KIND OF SHOW YOU PREDOMINANTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FLAT ROOF BUILDINGS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING CHANGING THE, THE LANGUAGE, AND REALLY IT'S A VERY SIMPLE CHANGE.

IT'S STRIKING THAT FIRST SENTENCE THERE OR THE FIRST TWO SENTENCES THAT ESSENTIALLY SAY THAT NO FLAT ROOFS ARE, ARE ALLOWED, STILL REQUIRES THAT ALL MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, ROOF MOUNTED MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS, IS STILL SCREENED FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, BUT IT STRIKES THAT PITCHED ROOF REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDINGS OF 5000FT² OR LESS.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONDUCTED THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST DUE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WITH THIS IS JUST THE CHANGING IN ARCHITECTURE AND STANDARDS, JUST THE MARKET CHANGES WHAT WE WANT THE APPEARANCE TO LOOK LIKE CHANGES, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION THAT LOOKING AROUND US THAT IS THE TREND IS HAVING THOSE FLAT ROOFS, BUT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT HVAC SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING ON THE ROOF WILL BE SCREENED.

THAT WILL STILL BE SCREENED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN THERE.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

SO PROBABLY TEN YEARS AGO, I CAN REMEMBER COUNCIL WOULD TALK A LOT ABOUT THE PITCHED ROOFS, AND WE NEED TO COVER CERTAIN THINGS ON THE ROOF, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL FOR 5000FT² BUILDINGS AS OPPOSED TO LARGER? OR IS EVERYTHING INCLUSIVE? SO THERE'S ALREADY SO THE WAY THE ORDINANCE ALREADY LAYS OUT, IT SAYS THAT BUILDINGS OF 5000FT² OR LESS REQUIRE THE PITCHED ROOF.

IF YOU'RE 5000FT² OR MORE, YOU CAN GO WITH A FLAT ROOF.

THE REQUIREMENT FOR SCREENING MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS ON BOTH OF THEM.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? COUNCILMEMBER STEVES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WES, SOME OF THOSE PICTURES YOU'VE SHOWN WEREN'T THERE RECENTLY BUILT RIGHT IS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE THEY'RE OVER 5000FT OR WHAT'S THE REASON? HOW COME THEY HAVE A FLAT ROOF IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHY SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN BEDFORD NOT ALL OF THESE ARE IN BEDFORD, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE, AND THEY DO HAVE FLAT ROOFS.

I KNOW THAT ONE RECEIVED A ZONING CHANGE TO COME OUT OF THE OVERLAY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT ONE CAME THROUGH, BUT IT DOES HAVE A FLAT ROOF, SO, BUT WHO WOULD BE THE ONES WHO WOULD FORCE IT? STAFF WOULD ENFORCE IT DURING SITE PLAN AND BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

YOU GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS.

THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

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MY FAULT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:35.

I GET TO HARASS WES.

THANK YOU FOR WEARING A TIE. [CHUCKLING] ANY TIME.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. I CAN SEE THE MAD SCRAMBLE TO THE MIC TO TALK ABOUT PITCHED ROOFS.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:35.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS? LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU STAFF.

NOW WE WILL PROCEED DOWN OUR ORDER.

NORMAL ORDER FOR THIS AGENDA.

LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION FOR A SITE PLAN TO DEVELOP THREE INDIVIDUAL DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANTS TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON TWO-ACRE

[5. Public hearing and consider a resolution for a site plan to develop three (3) individual drive-through restaurants to be constructed on the two-acre site located on the northwest corner of Airport Freeway and Central Drive, known as Lot 2A1, Block 1 Bedford-Arlington Road LTD. Subdivision and Lot A1, Block 1 Dallas Federal Addition, addressed as 1937 Airport Freeway and 1851 Central Drive. (PUD-23- 7) The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0-0.]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT NORTHWEST CORNER OF CENTRAL AND AIRPORT FREEWAY.

IT IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD, WHICH REQUIRES THAT ALL SITE PLANS COME THROUGH BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AS PUBLIC HEARINGS.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE SITE.

THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 80S AS A CHEDDAR'S RESTAURANT.

IN 82, COUNCIL GRANTED AND SUP FOR A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES.

IN 2012, THE COUNCIL GRANTED A SPECIAL OR I'M SORRY.

A SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS GRANTED IN 2012 FOR A COMMUNICATIONS TOWER AND THEN IN BEDFORD.

COMMONS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2013 AND AMENDED IN 2015.

IN 2015, THE USE OF DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANTS WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY IN THE HIGHWAY MIXED USE COURT UH CHARACTER ZONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THAT HIGHWAY MIXED USE CHARACTER ZONE, WHICH REQUIRES BUILDINGS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARD THE TOWARD THE FREEWAY, AND THE GOAL THERE IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE FRONT DOOR TO BEDFORD COMMONS.

THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN AS STATED ON THE AGENDA CAPTION.

IT'S PROPOSING THREE SEPARATE LOTS.

ACCESS IS BEING PROPOSED TO NOT CHANGE OFF OF TEXAS HARLEY WAY, WHICH KEEPS THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ON AIRPORT FREEWAY.

IT'S BEING CONDENSED DOWN TO ONE ACCESS POINT, AND THEN ALSO, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING WHICH STAFF WAS IN FAVOR OF IS A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE WES, WHICH IS BUFFALO WILD WINGS.

DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE USES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, STAFF WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE SOME TO DO SOME OFF SITE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AT TEXAS HARLEY WAY AND CENTRAL DRIVE.

THE CONCERN THERE IS TRAFFIC CUTTING ACROSS FROM TEXAS HARLEY WAY GOING INTO THE ADJACENT ACROSS CENTRAL TO THE ADJACENT FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

TECHNICALLY, THIS DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN NOW THE TEXAS HARLEY WAY AT THAT INTERSECTION IS ALREADY STRIPED AND SIGNED TO, ONLY FOR TRAFFIC TO ONLY TURN SOUTH ONTO CENTRAL.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN, AND PEOPLE IGNORE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH US TO AGREE TO DO SOME OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN NOW CONTROL THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE RAISED MEDIAN THERE.

SITE AND SURROUNDING USES.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH IT TO THE EAST OR ADDITIONAL DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT USES TO THE SOUTH.

OFFICE AND TO THE WEST RESTAURANT USES AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS IS REQUIRED TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING THROUGH THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD ORDINANCE, WE DID DO OUR STANDARD NOTICE, PLACED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.

WE NOTIFIED NINE OWNERS ADJACENT WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RANGE, AND THEN WE ALSO PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER.

WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST.

PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A 7 TO 0 VOTE.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO REAL QUICK FOR FOR OUR SCOPE ON THIS ONE THIS IS THE RESTAURANTS IN QUESTION, DRIVE-THRU RESIDENCE THERE.

THEY ARE A PART OF THE BEDFORD COMMONS CODE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WERE ADDED IN 2015 TO BE ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT. SO THEY THE USES ARE ALLOWED.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS JUST LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND LOOKING FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE OUR SCOPE IS CORRECT HERE.

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THAT IS YOUR SCOPE TONIGHT.

OKAY AND LOOKING AT IT, THAT USED TO BE THE FORMER CHEDDAR'S LOCATION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, AND THEY'VE BEEN I GUESS CLOSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

I WOULD SAY PROBABLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. JUST WANTED TO VERIFY HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN.

THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED THERE SO LOOKING AT I WAS WATCHING SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE ENTRYWAY OFF OF THE ACCESS ROAD, AND SO, AND HOW KIND OF NARROW IT IS.

CAN YOU TALK SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE ARE NOT WIDENING THAT? SURE. SO ONE THING THAT YOU TRY TO I MEAN, THEY ARE REDUCING THE ENTRANCES ONTO THAT ARE THERE AND THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK PROBABLY IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE TXDOT PROCEDURES THAN I CAN, BUT IT IS A CUMBERSOME PROCESS TO GO THROUGH AND WORK WITH TECH STOP TO GET THAT, GET THAT DRIVEWAY WIDENED AND IT MEETS OUR STANDARDS.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT LEFT IT AS IT IS.

GOTCHA. OKAY ALL RIGHT.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR WES WHILE HE'S UP? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL WORK.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD.

SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:41.

WELCOME, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JAKE [INAUDIBLE].

I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

I'M WITH [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING I'M HERE REALLY? JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT SPECIFIC TO THE SITE PLAN.

I'D LIKE TO GO TO MY FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE ENTRYWAY ON THE ACCESS ROAD.

YEAH. SO THE ENTRYWAY TO THE SOUTH THERE IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD FOR HIGHWAY 121.

IT'S A TXDOT-CONTROLLED ENTRANCE LOCATION.

THEIR RIGHT OF WAY MAPS HAVE INDICATED THEY HAVE DENIED ACCESS, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE LITTLE ASPECT OF IT ON TOP OF IT BEING TXDOT-CONTROLLED THE NORTH TEXAS EXPRESSWAY, MUNICIPAL OR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANNING GROUP ALSO HAS A SAY ON IT, AND WE'VE REACHED OUT IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO WIDEN THAT AND MAKE IT WIDER AS PER REQUEST AT THIS TIME, THEY HAVE NOT BROUGHT BACK ANY, ANY RESOLUTION.

HOWEVER YOU KNOW, IF ALLOWED, I THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD ALLOW WOULD LIKE TO WIDEN IT AS WELL.

SO, IT'S YOUR WISH TO ACTUALLY WIDEN THAT AS WELL? YEAH, I MEAN WE WOULD. YEAH IF ALLOWED, YES.

I MEAN WE'VE BOTH TXDOT AND THE NORTH TEXAS EXPRESSWAY HAVE KIND OF GOT CONTROL OF THAT AREA.

WE WERE LOOKING TO WIDEN IT, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT A STALEMATE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GOT IT ANY QUESTIONS HERE? YES. COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS THANKS, MR. MAYOR. SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS IT JUST NEGOTIATIONS WITH TXDOT TO WIDEN IT OR NO RESPONSE? THEY'RE PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT DENIES ACCESS FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S EXCEPT FOR THE ONE SPOT WE HAVE LIMITED RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH DENIED.

OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'VE OPENED THE DOOR TO ALLOW IT TO BE WIDENED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR DEVELOPER HERE? ALL RIGHT. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS STILL THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.

DON'T EVERYBODY RUSH AT ONCE.

[CHUCKLING] OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:43 I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU STAFF.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU GUYS IN BEDFORD.

ALL RIGHT. LET US GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE ON WITH A NUMBER.

[6. Public hearing and consider an ordinance to rezone the property described as Lot 2, Block 1 The Whisperwood Center Addition from Heavy Commercial/Master Highway Corridor Overlay to Heavy Commercial/Master Highway Corridor/Specific Use Permit-Gun Shop and the property is generally located approximately 630 feet east of Highway 121, southside of Harwood Road, commonly known as 3516 Harwood Road, Suite 110. (SUP-23-15). The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0-0.]

GUN SHOP AND PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT HIGHWAY 121 SOUTH SIDE OF HARWOOD, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 3516 HARWOOD ROAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

MOST PEOPLE NOW REFER TO IT AS ROCK ISLAND SHOPPING CENTER.

IT'S BUT THE I THINK EVERYBODY FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH IT SOUTH OF HARWOOD AND INTERSECTION OF 121

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PARKING SPACES.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE A LITTLE OVER 1000FT² OF SQUARE FOOT SUITE FOR A GUN SHOP. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES ANY TYPE OF GUN SHOP GUNSMITHING TO BE A BE APPROVED BY AN SUP.

SITE PHOTOS OF THE SITE I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

IS THE SHOPPING CENTER JUST NORTH.

I'M SORRY, JUST SOUTH OF THE ROCK ISLAND AUCTION HOUSE.

AGAIN, THERE IT SHOWS THEIR SITE PLAN.

THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY OR PROPOSING ANY TYPE OF EXTERIOR CHANGES TO THE SHOPPING CENTER OR TO THE SITE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTH, MORE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST, AND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE WEST.

WE NOTIFIED 21 ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE, AND THAT WAS A RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, ROCK ISLAND AUCTION HOUSE AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UM RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

I APOLOGIZE WE DIDN'T GET THE MINUTES IN FOR P AND Z A LITTLE SHORT STAFFED AND GETTING SOME THINGS ON THIS AGENDA FOR THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE CONCERN OF THAT ONE VOTE AGAINST WAS THE CONCERN OF GUN SALES.

THE GUN SHOP IS A USE THAT INCLUDES GUNSMITHING AND GUN SALES, AND I THINK THE ONE COMMISSIONER THAT BROUGHT UP THE USE OF MAYBE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT TO JUST A GUN SHOP WAS IN FAVOR OF THE NON SALE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY THE ONE VOTE AGAINST AND WITH FROM WATCHING THAT MEETING IT APPEARED TO BE IS THAT YOU COULDN'T YOU COULDN'T BAN IT OUTRIGHT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORDSMITH IT IN A WAY THAT SAYS YOU WOULD ONLY BE SELLING REFURBISHED FIREARMS. RIGHT? IT GOT A LITTLE CONFUSING IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO ADD A CONDITION SOMEWHAT LIKE THAT AND, AND HOW WE WOULD ENFORCE THAT SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TALK AT P&Z ABOUT CREATING A WHOLE NEW USE, BUT SEPARATING OUT GUN SHOP VERSUS GUNSMITH AND P&Z AS A WHOLE JUST WASN'T IN FAVOR.

THEY WERE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION.

OKAY COUPLE QUESTIONS, THOUGH, WITH THIS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS GUN SHOP SUP, SUPS ARE FOR THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

IT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THE OWNER, CORRECT.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE OWNER HAD THE BUSINESS SOLD THE BUSINESS, IT WOULD REMAIN AS A GUN SHOP.

THAT IS TYPICALLY HOW WE HANDLE THAT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE I KNOW IN THE PAST BEDFORD HAS HANDLED THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP IT AS IT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY.

OKAY. SO IT'S GEOGRAPHIC AND PROPERTY-DRIVEN, RIGHT? SO LOOKING LOOKING AHEAD, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FRAME THAT CORRECTLY SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS GOING FORWARD I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, PROBABLY JUST FOR THE APPLICANT, SO I KNOW THEY'RE IN THE AUDIENCE. SO, FANTASTIC ANYBODY HERE FOR WES? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:48, LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AND WHY THEY'RE CHOOSING BEDFORD.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

MY NAME IS ADAM COLE.

I OWN AND OPERATE A GUNSMITH SHOP BY THE NAME OF ADAMS AUTOMATICS.

I SPECIALIZE IN THE REPAIR AND REFURBISHING OF COLLECTOR GRADE FIREARMS. I'VE LIVED IN THE DFW METROPLEX FOR MOST OF MY LIFE.

I BEGAN MY ADULT CAREER AS A FIREFIGHTER, EMT, AND 9-1-1 DISPATCHER RIGHT HERE IN THE METROPLEX IN 1999.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MEET MY WIFE DOING SO.

WE CONTINUED TO SERVE THE METROPLEX FOR ANOTHER 17 YEARS, AND THEN HAD TO MOVE TO SAN ANTONIO IN ORDER TO FULFILL HER OBLIGATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES ARMY AS A PEDIATRICIAN.

IN 2016, I BEGAN MY WORK IN THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COLLECTIBLE FIREARMS FULL-TIME.

THIS IS WHERE I BEGAN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH ROCK ISLAND AUCTION COMPANY.

I OPENED MY OWN SHOP AS A FULLY ACCREDITED FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE IN EARLY 2020, WHERE I ALSO SERVICED AND CERTIFIED FIREARMS FOR THE HIGHWAY PATROL, STATE GAME WARDEN, AND OTHER LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

WHILE THERE, I WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE MY PUBLIC SERVICE AS A FIRE CHIEF IN MY COMMUNITY AS WELL.

WITH THE COMPLETION OF HER MILITARY OBLIGATION OUT OF TOWN, WE WERE ABLE TO RETURN HERE HOME TO THE METROPLEX.

I'M THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN BEDFORD AND ESTABLISHING A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD POLICE, AS WELL AS

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IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. I WAS TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR BASICALLY WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR SHOP DOES, AND, AND SO WHAT SOME, SOME PEOPLE NOT MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO.

I'M AWARE OF I MEAN IT'S KIND OF A HOBBY OF MINE.

NOT GUNSMITHING BY ANY MEANS BUT IT IS AN ART.

IT'S A CRAFT TO IT, AND A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON ARE, ARE OLDER THAT ARE GOING TO NEED.

I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE P&Z, THEY NEED SPECIAL PARTS, SPECIAL MILLING TO HELP CUSTOMERS MEET THEIR NEEDS.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST SPECIFICALLY WITH WITH THE YOUR LICENSES.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING FIREARM TRANSFERS OBVIOUSLY FFLS? YES, SIR. I'M LICENSED TO THAT AS WELL FOR THAT ALSO THE IS IT THE NFA, YOUR CERTIFIED NFA DEALER? AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO MORE WHAT THAT IS.

SURE. SO IN 1934 THE NFA ACT WAS ENACTED AND IT RECATEGORIZED CERTAIN FIREARMS AS NATIONAL FIRE ACT FIREARMS I POSSESS EXTRA LICENSING AS SOME OF THESE VERY VALUABLE AND COLLECTIBLE FIREARMS ARE NFA WEAPONS.

SO THEY WILL NEED THEY WILL NEED THAT LICENSING IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THOSE PROPERLY AS WELL, AND SO DOES THAT ALL ENCOMPASS CLASS THREE WEAPONS? YES, SIR.

YES. OKAY, AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, CLASS THREE WEAPONS ARE WELL CLASS THREE WEAPONS FALL IS UNDER.

IT'S A VERY, VERY WIDE CATEGORY THERE, BUT IT'S BEYOND YOUR STANDARD RIFLE OR SHOTGUN.

IT WOULD BE A COLLECTIBLE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS OR SILENCERS CORRECTLY AND IF YOU WERE A CUSTOMER THAT WANTED TO BUY THEM, YOU ACTUALLY YOURSELF, IF YOU WERE A CUSTOMER THAT WANTED TO BUY A CLASS THREE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND CHECK, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR BEFORE YOU CORRECT BEFORE YOU.

SO EVEN IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUY SUCH AN ITEM, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND CHECK WITH FINGERPRINTING AND LIKE YOU SAID, WOULD BE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE THEY COULD OBTAIN THAT ITEM, AND EVEN SO, IT'S WELL REGULATED SO THAT IT IS REGISTERED.

ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE REGISTERED VERY MUCH SO, AND THEY'RE COST PROHIBITIVE TO MOST ANYWAY.

YES, EXACTLY. BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF IT BEING CLASS THREE.

IT IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.

$30,000. CORRECT.

$30,000 FOR A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

YES CORRECT.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO RESELL THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOMEBODY LIKE YOU.

CORRECT. BECAUSE YOU'RE A DEALER.

YES, I DO THE LICENSES ARE KIND OF THE LICENSING THAT I HAVE IS SOMEWHAT ALL INCLUSIVE, SO, YES, SIR.

OKAY ALSO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS WILL YOU BE DOING ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY RELOADING EQUIPMENT, GUNPOWDER ON, ON SITE? NO, SIR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T DO ANY OF THAT [INAUDIBLE] RELOADING? NO. OKAY HOW DO YOU SO WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS THESE TYPES OF SHOPS THAT ARE GUNSMITHS THEY WILL HAVE AN AREA WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO TEST THE FIREARMS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO TEST THESE FIREARMS, GO TO A LOCAL GUN RANGE, ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOCAL GUN RANGE IS TYPICALLY HOW WE DO THAT.

OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST TO TEST THE CYCLING, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKED OUT.

OKAY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE SECURITY THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ONE.

SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE SECURITY WISE FOR YOUR ESTABLISHMENT? SECURITY WISE I HAVE TO BE VERY REDUNDANT THERE OF COURSE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PHYSICAL AND TECHNICAL SECURITIES REDUNDANT INVENTORY AS WELL SO THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW.

CERTAINLY. OUTSIDE MONITORED SECURITY SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL SECURITY SYSTEM THAT COMES WITH ALONG WITH CAMERAS THAT ARE MONITORED BY A COMPANY RECORDED AND ALSO MONITORED BY MYSELF AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE MULTIPLE PHYSICAL BARRIERS THAT REDUNDANT LOCKING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

GOTCHA. GOTCHA. YOU SAY YOU WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS SUPERIORLY SECURE THE ENTIRE SHOP.

YES, SIR. OKAY, I'M JUST GOING BACK FROM THE LAST MEETING YOU MENTIONED THAT AS YOUR TOP CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT.

YES, OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

SOME OF YOUR TOOLING, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT I HAVE IS AS OBSOLETE AS THE FIREARMS THAT I WORK ON.

SO TOP PRIORITY.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU MENTIONED YOU USE A LOT TO MAKE SURE YOUR SHOP IS SECURE.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY AND ANOTHER THING THAT SINCE YOU'RE NOT HAVING RELOADING EQUIPMENT, WILL YOU BE DOING ANY AMMUNITION SALES?

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NO, SIR.

OKAY, SO NO AMMUNITION SALES.

MY QUESTION IS, THE WAY THE CODE READS RIGHT NOW IS THAT IN THE FUTURE, THERE COULD BE AMMUNITION SALES.

IS THAT CORRECT? DIRECTING THIS TOWARD LEGAL FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY? SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE IF YOU WERE TO SELL THE BUSINESS, SIR, THEN AMMUNITION SALES WOULD BE COULD BE USED.

I MIGHT DEFER TO WES.

HE KNOWS THE FACTS OF THE CASE.

A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE COULD PLACE A CONDITION IN THE SUP THAT WOULD PROHIBIT AMMUNITION SALES.

YES, SIR. OKAY. EXCUSE ME.

YES. THE WAY THE DEFINITION DOES READ IT DOES INCLUDE AMMUNITION SALES.

OKAY MY ONLY CONCERN AND PERHAPS I'M OFF BASE, AND FIRST OF ALL, I'M NO CONCERN WITH THE BUSINESS GUN SALES.

I'M OKAY BECAUSE I THINK IT IS THE NATURAL SCOPE OF YOUR OF YOUR ESTABLISHMENT AMMUNITION SALES.

I ONLY ASK FOR THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND WES, THIS WOULD BE DIRECTED FOR YOU FOR THIS SHOPPING CENTER.

IF WE WANTED A RESTAURANT NEARBY, COULD WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT? WE WOULDN'T. IT WOULDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL, CORRECT? IN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL NO, IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

I DIDN'T THINK SO, AND SO MY CONCERN LIKE I SAID, MAYBE I'M OFF BASE HAVING RESTAURANTS FLANKED ON EITHER SIDE AND HAVING AMMUNITION, WHICH YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT, WHICH IS GOOD HAVING AMMUNITION STORED THERE AND WITH RESIDENTIAL RIGHT BEHIND IT, IT MAKES ME A LITTLE CONCERNED IF THERE WERE TO BE A STRUCTURE FIRE AND HAVING AMMUNITION ON ON SITE SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I WISH THERE WAS OUR FIRE MARSHAL HERE TO ELABORATE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT HE IS THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING IT'S CONSIDERING, SIR, THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE AMMUNITION SALES.

WOULD THAT WOULD THAT CONDITION BE AMENABLE TO YOU? DOES IT EVEN AFFECT YOUR BUSINESS AT ALL? I CAN'T SAY THAT I COULDN'T PREDICT THAT I GUESS IF WE WERE JUST TO LOOK DOWN THE LINE AND I ENDED UP WITH A VERY ODDLY CALIBER FIREARM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HAPPENED TO POSSESS THE AMMUNITION THAT WENT WITH THAT FIREARM.

NOT FOR SALE FOR SALES OR, BUT, YEAH NO, I DON'T WANT TO SELL AMMUNITION.

THAT'S NOT [INAUDIBLE] SHOP.

YEAH I CERTAINLY WISH THE FIRE MARSHAL WAS HERE, SO I HAD HIS BACKING ON THIS, BUT AS A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER YOU TYPICALLY HAVE MORE FLAMMABLE MATERIALS IN A NAIL SALON THAN YOU WOULD IN A GUN SHOP WITH AMMUNITION.

NO. ABSOLUTELY NO. COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY VALID.

COMPLETELY VALID.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONTAINED INSIDE A BARREL.

IT BECOMES SOMEWHAT INERT.

SO BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN I THINK IT WOULD BE.

YEAH, AND THAT WAS ALSO LEADING TO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE RELOADING EQUIPMENT AND HAVING I MEAN, HAVING OPEN GUNPOWDER CHANGES THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL, AND SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP JUST FOR THE FACT THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME TO MIND, AND SO YOU BEING IN THE FIELD AS A FIREFIGHTER, I THINK THAT'S YOUR EXPERTISE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

SO YEAH, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T BRING THAT UP, BUT THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

SIR, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR BUSINESS IS SOMEWHAT SPECIFIC.

LIKE YOU'RE ALMOST AN ARTIST WITH PUTTING THESE.

YOU'RE PUTTING THESE WEAPONS BACK INTO OPERATION THAT PROBABLY DON'T WORK ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU CRAFT THEM A LITTLE BIT, AND JUST BY SAYING THAT, IT WOULD BE, YOU'D HAVE TO FIND THE EXACT TYPE OF BUYER THAT WOULD BUY YOU OUT, LIKE, WOULD BUY YOU OUT, LIKE BUY YOUR BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU WERE TO DECIDE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT COULD REPLACE YOU BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY TO YOU.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

YES, AND I THANK YOU.

IF I MAY SAY IT IS A CRAFT OR AN ART AND IT'S A DYING ONE, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M ATTRACTED TO THAT KIND OF THING SO THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY SPECIFIC TO YOU BUT I APPRECIATE THE ART, EVEN THOUGH GUNS PROBABLY AREN'T MY DEAL.

APPARENTLY THE MAYOR KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THEM, BUT I DO.

[CHUCKLING] I LIKE TO GO AS MUCH AS I CAN.

I APPRECIATE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A REAL CRAFT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO.

WELL, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. COUNCILMAN STEVES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SAFETY I KNOW YOUR ASSOCIATE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT TO A RANGE TO TEST FIRE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GENERAL JUST CLEARING OF A WEAPON?

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DO YOU HAVE, LIKE, A CLEARING BARREL OR SOMETHING SET UP TO WHERE YOU WOULD? IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE? ABSOLUTELY, I DO HAVE A CLEARING BARREL FOR, FOR INSTANCES LIKE THAT, AND IT IT'S RARE BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

I'VE ALWAYS HAD SIGNAGE ALL GUNS MUST BE UNLOADED.

THERE'S A CHARGE FOR GUNS THAT ARE NOT CLEARED PROPERLY, BUT IMMEDIATELY WHEN A FIREARM COMES INTO MY SHOP, I GET IT INTO MY HANDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT IT CAN BE SAFELY CLEARED AND MADE.

MADE SURE TO BE EMPTY.

IN YOUR YEARS OF DOING THIS, IF YOU HAD AN UNINTENTIONAL DISCHARGE IN ANY OF YOUR SHOPS.

NO, SIR, I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT NO SUCH THING AS UNINTENTIONAL, IS THERE? UH, WELL FAIR ENOUGH.

THAT'S A GOOD RULE OF THUMB, BUT WELL, THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOT MADE ANY UNPLANNED HOLES IN ANYTHING, SO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

YES? IS IT ADAM.

IS IT COLE? COLE, YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND THANK YOU.

YOU'RE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS BUSINESS IN THIS AREA.

WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF OF MACHINING YOU'RE NEEDING, THE SECURITY YOU'VE GOT, YOUR INVENTORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING BEDFORD, AND I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO ROCK ISLAND, WHICH IS PERFECT FIT FOR YOU, AND BUT IT'S THIS IS NOT A FLY BY NIGHT BUSINESS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY STRUCTURED.

IT'S VERY SOPHISTICATED, AND IT IS EXPENSIVE.

SO THE INVESTMENT THAT YOU'RE MAKING IN THE SECURITY THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN, I WOULD IMAGINE IS VERY COSTLY.

YES, SIR ABOVE ALL ELSE, I'VE INVESTED EVERYTHING OF ME INTO IT.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT RIDING ON IT.

WELL THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO ECHO COUNCILMAN FARCO'S WORDS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WIFE'S SERVICE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SYNERGISTIC RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH WITH ROCK ISLAND.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

I WISH I COULD SWING 30, 50, $150,000 FOR AN ANTIQUE FIREARM, SO I PROBABLY WON'T BE VISITING YOU, BUT BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND, AND JUST TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR COGAN MENTIONED.

SO AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YEARS AGO WHERE ROCK ISLAND IS, WAS A WALMART AND I THINK THAT WALMART ALSO SOLD FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S THAT CONTINUES TO BE A NON-ISSUE, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SIR YEAH.

JUST YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND I KNOW I CAN SEE IT ON YOUR FACE, AND SO I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THAT CORRIDOR AND WITH ROCK ISLAND AUCTION AND WITH NOW, HOPEFULLY, IF THIS GOES WELL FOR YOU TO BE IN THERE, IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP FOR OUR CITY, AND I MIGHT STOP IN AND CHECK THINGS OUT FROM TIME TO TIME BUT ALL IN ALL, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR CITY, AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

SO I DO WANT TO ADD THAT THAT WHILE I WORK ON THESE ANTIQUES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, I DO FIX REGULAR GUNS, TOO.

SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BY, [CHUCKLING] AND IT'S ONLY MONEY.

YOU'LL MAKE MORE. THAT MAY BE A LITTLE PREMATURE, SO WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT, [CHUCKLING] YEAH. SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING UP, I WILL.

PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN, SO IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.

ALL RIGHT, SO I DON'T SEE A MAD RUSH.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:04, ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

I SAW MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI, SO I WILL GIVE HIM THE SECOND.

LET US GO AHEAD AND VOTE, AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU STAFF. CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO BEDFORD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE.

[7. Public hearing and consider an ordinance to rezone the property described as Lot A, Block 17R Stonegate Addition-Bedford from Heavy Commercial to Heavy Commercial/Specific Use Permit-Car Wash Establishment and the property is generally located at the southeast corner of Old Kirk Road and Brown Trail, commonly known as 1428 Brown Trail. (SUP-23-20). The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0-0.]

CAR WASH ESTABLISHMENT.

GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OLD KIRK ROAD AND BROWN TRAIL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BROWN TRAIL AND OLD KIRK ROAD JUST SOUTH OF AIRPORT FREEWAY

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SITE PLAN I PROVIDED A HARD COPY OF THAT FOR YOU AT YOUR SEATS TONIGHT, BUT ALSO ON THE SCREEN.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A SITE PLAN THAT MAINTAINS THE SCREENING WALL TO THE RESIDENTS TO THE EAST.

THE ACCESS TO THE SITE REMAINS THE SAME AS THE CURRENT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR THE PARKING LOT OF OLD KIRK ROAD.

THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TO STAFF DID HAVE AN ACCESS ONTO BROWN TRAIL THERE TOWARD THE SOUTH THAT HAD TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF A STORM DRAIN THAT IS EXISTING THERE, AND SO IF THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY ACCESS THERE, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE CONSIDERABLE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STORM DRAIN THAT WAS EXISTING.

THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

MATERIALS ARE BRICK, CMU BLOCK, AND STUCCO THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

SURROUNDING SITE USES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH OR I'M SORRY TO THE EAST OFFICE RETAIL OFFICE TO THE NORTH, RETAIL TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANTS TO THE WEST.

WE DID A NOTIFICATION ON THE SITE, NOTIFIED 25 ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RANGE.

WE ALSO POST A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AND WE ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

TO DATE, WE'VE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THE ONLY ONE THAT WE DID RECEIVE OR THAT STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT IS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RANGE.

WE PLACED AN X THERE TO SHOW YOU WHERE THAT PROPERTY OWNER REGISTERS AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A 6 TO 0 VOTE.

AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE MINUTES IN YOUR BACKUP, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT THE ONE CONCERN OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME WAS THE ACCESS TO THE SITE ACCESSING OLD KIRK ROAD, AND THEY SAW THAT IT WAS MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN THAT THE ONE VOTING COMMISSIONER AGAINST IT REGISTERED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR P&Z. WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY THANK YOU, MISS SO WITH WITH THIS ONE AND SINCE THIS IS AN SUP, WE CAN CONSIDER A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO DEFER MY QUESTION TO LEGAL, OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

SO IF WE'RE IN TERMS OF SUPS, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CAN CONSIDER IS USES ONE OF THEM.

CORRECT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT, AND YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE REASONABLE LAND BASED CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICATION IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IT IS USE WHETHER NOW OR FUTURE.

FUTURE USE CORRECT USE AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES.

COMPATIBILITY WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

THE THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAND THAT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE.

GOTCHA TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALSO NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHERS AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY, SURROUNDING LAND USES IS A VERY VALID BASIS ON WHICH TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE? THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PRESENTATION TO MAKE AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR WES? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION, AND MAYBE I NOTICED THAT WE HAD TO MODIFY THE ENTRANCE BECAUSE OF THE STORM DRAIN, WERE THERE ARE OTHER DRAINAGE CONSIDERATIONS, GIVEN THAT THIS BUSINESS ENGAGES WITH A LOT OF WATER.

SURE. NO, IT'LL BE TIED INTO THIS.

ALL THE THOSE ACTIVITIES WILL BE TIED INTO THE STORM DRAIN, AND THOSE TYPE OF DETAILS WILL COME THROUGH DURING THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROCESS.

SO BUT YES, WE THE APPLICANT MET WITH THE ENGINEERING STAFF AND DISCUSSED HOW THEY PLAN TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO THE NORTH THOSE TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS.

THAT'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

LET ME GO TO AN AERIAL TO KIND OF SHOW YOU.

YES, SIR. THAT IS THOSE TWO.

I DON'T KNOW, THE AERIAL REALLY SHOWS AS MUCH, BUT THAT'S THE OFFICE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.

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YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT IS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THIS I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. SO PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AT 7:10.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ALI SANDOVAL.

I LIVE AT 1000 EAST ASH LANE, EULESS, TEXAS.

SO WE'RE NEIGHBORS THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND CITY STAFF FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PROJECT TO YOU.

SO I'M REPRESENTING THE Q CAR WASH DEVELOPMENT AT 1428 BROWN TRAIL.

WE'RE A BRAND THAT'S DEDICATED TO PROVIDING QUALITY AND EASE TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE'VE CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATED 14 VERY SUCCESSFUL CAR WASHES ALL OVER THE DFW AREA, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF BEDFORD.

WE DON'T CUT ANY CORNERS WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING THE BEST QUALITY FOR OUR GUESTS.

WE ONLY USE THE BEST LANDSCAPING AND FACILITIES.

OUR OUTSTANDING VALUE COMES FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AS OPERATORS AND PROVIDING THE BEST VALUE YOU CAN GET WITH OUR MEMBERSHIPS AND FAMILY PLANS.

WE PROUDLY INSTALL ONLY MADE IN AMERICA EQUIPMENT AT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS.

OUR QUALITY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THROUGH OUR GOOGLE REVIEW RATINGS, AND WE HAVE NOTHING LESS THAN AN AVERAGE OF 4.5 OR HIGHER.

ALL OF OUR CAR WASH LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE DFW.

WE AIM TO BE MORE THAN JUST A CAR WASH, WE WANT TO CREATE AN OVERALL STELLAR EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS HOW DO WE DO THAT IS BY PROVIDING 25 TURBO VACUUMS. EACH STATION WILL HAVE MICROFIBER TOWELS, HIGH PRESSURE DETAILING AREA FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO USE, GLASS CLEANER, INTERIOR BOTTLE CLEANER, AND MAT CLEANERS ON SITE AS WELL, SO NO HASSLE.

THEY ARE ALL RIGHT THERE FOR EACH BAY.

BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF SUCH A VALUABLE FOR SUCH A VALUABLE RESOURCE LIKE WATER.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, MISS MICHELLE WE GO ABOVE INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND WE RECYCLE 75% OF THE WATER USED PER CAR WASH ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE CREATED AND INSTALLED METERS TO TRACK EACH GALLON OF WATER USED PER CAR THIS SYSTEM SENDS ALERTS TO OUR PHONES FOR ANY ABNORMAL WATER USAGES AND HELPS US REDUCE OUR OVERALL WATER CONSUMPTION.

SO WE HAVE A SET GOAL OF HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE GOING TO USE PER CAR, AND IF WE GO ONE GALLON ABOVE THAT, WE'LL GET A TEXT MESSAGE.

WE WANT TO CONSERVE THE WATER THAT WE USE.

ALSO KEEP OUR WATER BILLS LOW.

SO THAT'S PART OF THAT IF APPROVED, WE WOULD CREATE 15 FULL TIME JOBS THAT INCLUDE BENEFITS.

ALSO, AS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, WE OFFER FREE CAR WASHES TO ALL FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMERGENCY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.

THE TOTAL OF THESE FREE CAR WASHES AVERAGE ABOUT $48,000 A YEAR PER LOCATION.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART OF MY JOB, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SO LAST YEAR ALONE, WE WERE ABLE TO DONATE $70,000 BACK INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE ARE A PART OF.

WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T GROW BY KEEPING EVERY PENNY THAT WE MAKE, AND DOING THE COMMUNITY OUTREACHES IS THE BEST PART IN MY OPINION.

SO WE COMMIT $20,000 EVERY YEAR TO EACH CITY WE'RE A PART OF FOR EXAMPLE, THE TOP LEFT CORNER WITH THE LITTLE GIRLS IN THEIR BASKETBALL UNIFORMS, THEY WON A CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEY WERE GOING TO FLORIDA, AND THEY RAISED $3,000 IN TWO HOURS AT OUR CAR WASH IN WHITE SETTLEMENT IT'S JUST A SAFE AND EASY FUNDRAISER FOR THEM TO DO SOMETIMES I THINK BEFORE THEY WERE HOLDING CAR WASHES IN AN OPEN PARKING LOT WITH NO LINES AND GUIDANCE AND NO RECYCLING OF WATER.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM AS WELL AS MONEY, LIKE YOU CAN SEE WITH HALTOM CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MEALS ON WHEELS OF TARRANT COUNTY AND GRAPEVINE.

WE DONATE TIME AS WELL.

SO MEALS ON WHEELS OF TARRANT COUNTY, IT'S A PLEASURE THAT I GET TO ORGANIZE THE MANAGERS TO GO AND SPEND TIME EACH QUARTER AT PLACES LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS, TARRANT COUNTY TO SHOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET SUCH A GOOD PROGRAM, K EEP IT GOING.

THIS REPRESENTATION SHOWS THAT THE OVERALL STANDARD OF QUALITY HAS GONE UP ON ALL FRONTS AS CONSUMERS WE USED TO BE OKAY WITH PAYING $0.50 FOR CHEAP CUPS OF COFFEE. NOW WE'LL PAY MORE FOR OUR SPECIALIZED CUSTOM MATCHA LATTES FROM.

I LIKE THE ICED ONE WITH ALMOND MILK FROM STARBUCKS.

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IT'S ALL ABOUT EASE AND EFFICIENCY NOW.

OLD 7-ELEVENS WITH DIRTY BATHROOMS AND POOR EXPERIENCES USED TO BE THE NORMAL.

THANKS TO PLACES LIKE QT, THIS IS NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.

THE OLD DAYS OF GETTING OUT OF YOUR CAR AND HAND WASHING YOUR CAR, AND THE INCONVENIENCE OF AN UNSTAFFED FACILITY IS A THING OF THE PAST.

WE OFFER CLEAN RESTROOMS, GREAT FACILITIES, VERY FRIENDLY EMPLOYEES.

WE ALWAYS HAVE 3 TO 6 EMPLOYEES ON STAFF AT THE SITE.

FAST AND EASY EXPERIENCE THAT ALIGNS WITH TODAY'S CONSUMER CULTURE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OTHER CAR WASHES IN THE AREA.

WE HAVE WILD WILLIES, BEST CAR WASH AND BROWN TRAIL.

THOSE GO FOR A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE THAN WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.

SOME OF THOSE PLACES ARE DATED VERY OLD AND TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO WASH YOUR CAR.

WITH THE EXCEPTION TO CARNATION, GREAT FACILITY, THEY ARE TWO MILES AWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

VERY DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERN, BUT WE PLAN TO SERVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR CAR WASHES. WE HAVE DUNCANVILLE, FORT WORTH, GRAND PRAIRIE, AND MESQUITE.

WE ALSO HAVE SITES IN BENBROOK GRAPEVINE AND WHITE SETTLEMENT.

FOR MOST OF US, OUR VEHICLES ARE A SECOND BIGGEST INVESTMENT.

WE MAKE SURE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR INVESTMENT BY USING TOP OF THE LINE EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES.

GOING BACK TO QUALITY, YOU CAN SEE THE MODERN, ATTRACTIVE AND TOP OF THE LINE MATERIALS AT EACH SITE WE BUILD.

OKAY. THIS PART IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED BY OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND PROJECT MANAGER, SAMIR MOHAMMED.

TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU.

ALLIE.

SAMIR MOHAMMED [INAUDIBLE] SOUTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, EULESS, TEXAS.

FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR THANKS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, WE HAVE AN ENTRANCE COMING OFF FROM OLD KIRK ROAD.

AS WES SAID, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE HAVING AN ENTRANCE ON BROWN TRAIL WE HAVE THREE PAY STATION LANES DRIVE GOING INTO THE TUNNEL.

WE HAVE A CAR WASH BUILDING WHICH HAS TUNNEL AND EQUIPMENT ROOM, WHICH IS LESS THAN 6000FT², AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 26 VACUUM BAYS, AND THEN, AS ALLIE HAS HIGHLIGHTED, WE USE HIGH END FINISHES ON OUR BUILDING.

WE LIKE OUR BUILDINGS TO STAND OUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

WE ARE PLANNING TO USE NATURAL STONE, BRICK, STUCCO AND METAL PANELS.

SO THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS RAISED AT THE P&Z ABOUT SATURATION OF CAR WASHES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE IF YOU LOOK AT MY SLIDE, I HAVE THE MAP OF CITY OF BEDFORD, WHICH SHOWS THE LOCATION OF EXISTING CAR WASH CAR WASHES.

ALL BUT ONE CAR WASH NEARBY OPERATE ON A DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL.

ALL THESE CAR WASHES ARE OLD, WILL DEFINITELY NEED AN UPGRADE, AND MAY NOT ALIGN WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD'S VISION.

HERE I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ALL THE WASHES THAT DO NOT ALIGN WITH OUR BUSINESS MODEL THE ONLY CAR WASH THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS CARNATION AUTO SPA ON CENTRAL DRIVE, BUT THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, AND IT CATERS TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, DIFFERENT AREA, AND IT HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERN.

THE OTHER ONE WAS SPARKLING.

IMAGE CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THEY ARE ALSO FULL SERVICE DETAIL.

SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR COMPETITOR AS WELL? YES, SIR. I MEAN, WE ARE AN EXPRESS. WE DO NOT HAVE DETAIL ON OUR LOCATIONS.

THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS ZONED AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT COME UNDER THIS PARTICULAR ZONING IS A CAR WASH OR A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT.

SO WE NEED TO BUILD HERE.

IF WE DON'T BUILD HERE, THERE WILL BE A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT THAT CAN COME AND BUILD BY RIGHT.

DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANTS HAVE PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC DURING BREAKFAST, PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC DURING LUNCH.

PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC DURING DINNER.

CAR WASHES DO NOT HAVE A PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE A STEADY FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND WE ABSORB FROM THE EXISTING FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

WE DO NOT ADD TRAFFIC TO THE EXISTING FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE.

JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, AS ALLIE HAS HIGHLIGHTED, WE USE HIGH END MADE IN USA EQUIPMENT.

OUR BLOWERS HAVE SILENCERS ON THEM WHICH MAKES THEM TEN TIMES QUIETER AND WHICH MAKES THEM LESS NOISIER THAN A MOVING CAR.

SO WE HAVE OUR BLOWERS PRODUCE A SOUND INTENSITY OF 70DB AT 100FT AND WHICH MAKES THEM LESS NOISY THAN A MOVING CAR IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE CLOSE BY 8 P.M.

ON WEEKDAYS AND WE CLOSE BY 7 P.M.

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IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE AN EXISTING CMU WALL SCREEN WALL THAT WE DO NOT PLAN ON DEMOLISHING ALL AS FOR JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, CMU HAS AN STC RATING OF 55, WHICH MAKES IT A CONSIDERABLE NOISE ABSORPTION BARRIER.

IF THIS DOES NOT SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT, WE ARE PLANNING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON IN FRONT OF THAT CMU WALL.

THAT WILL ADD AS AN ADDITIONAL SOUND ATTENUATION BARRIER AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND I HAVE JIMMY WILLIAMS WHO DOES OUR DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES.

SO JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WHENEVER WE JUST DON'T GO AND BUILD OUT ANYWHERE, WE DO DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES TO SEE IF IT SERVES OUR BUSINESS MODEL.

SO HE WILL BE COMING AND HIGHLIGHTING OUR DEMOGRAPHICS STUDIES ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SAMIR.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JIMMY WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 2410 [INAUDIBLE] STREET, WICHITA FALLS, TEXAS.

I REPRESENT SONNY'S, THE CAR WASH FACTORY.

WE'RE THE LARGEST MANUFACTURER OF CAR WASH EQUIPMENT IN THE WORLD.

IN ADDITION TO MANUFACTURING CAR WASH EQUIPMENT, WE WORK WITH OUR CLIENTS, SUCH AS THE Q DEVELOPMENT GROUP, TO DESIGN, DEVELOP, LOCATE CAR WASHES IN MARKETS. ONE OF OUR GOALS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR CONSULTING DIVISION IS TO FIND UNDERSERVED MARKETS.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CAR WASH INDUSTRY IS RAPIDLY GROWING, LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND OF CONSUMERS.

WE DON'T JUST SIMPLY PLANT A CAR WASH AND HOPE PEOPLE WASH THEIR CAR.

WE KNOW KIND OF THE DEMAND.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE STUDY IS ROOFTOPS.

WE LOOK AT TRAFFIC COUNT AND WE LOOK AT REGISTERED VEHICLES IN A GIVEN AREA.

FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I THINK AS WE DID THE CALCULATION ON THE ROOFTOPS, 44,000 ROOFTOPS, THAT CALCULATES AT 1.7 CARS PER ROOFTOP, IT'S ABOUT 78,000 CARS THAT ARE REGISTERED IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.

SO IF YOU JUST TAKE THE OTHER TWO CAR WASHES AND THE THREE IF IT WAS THREE CAR WASHES SERVING AN EXPRESS CAR WASH MODEL OR EVEN A FULL SERVICE CAR WASH MODEL, THAT'S ABOUT 25 TO 30,000 CARS THAT ARE REGISTERED IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'RE SERVED.

SO THAT'S FAIRLY A LOT OF BUSINESS TO GO AROUND BETWEEN THREE BUSINESSES FAIRLY EASY.

THAT DOESN'T FACTOR IN THAT.

YOU'VE GOT 100,000 CARS, OVER 100,000 CARS ON AN AIRPORT FREEWAY.

YOU HAVE 10,000 CARS THAT GO TO EVERY DAY ON BROWN TRAIL.

SO AS SAMIR SAID, THE DESIGN OF A CAR WASH IS REALLY DESIGNED TO BE IN AN AREA WHERE IT DOESN'T ATTRACT TRAFFIC, IT JUST SIMPLY SUPPORTS THE TRAFFIC OR SUPPORTS THE CAR IN THAT AREA.

SO WITH THAT DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY, WE TAKE THIS BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT [INAUDIBLE] DOES IS ASK ME, IS THIS A GOOD SITE? WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE SITE NOT JUST FROM A BUILDER STANDPOINT, FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, BUT WILL IT SUSTAIN A PROFITABLE BUSINESS? WE DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND OUR CLIENTS TO PUT A BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T MAKE MONEY.

THE OTHER PART IS WE WANT TO SERVE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE CONSUMERS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GO.

SO AS A RESULT, THERE'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF VEHICLE OWNERS OR TRAFFIC THAT ARE GOING SOMEWHERE TO GET THEIR CAR WASHED.

SOME OF IT MAY BE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF BEDFORD TO GET THEIR CAR WASHED.

SO WE LOOK AT THIS AS AN UNDERSERVED AREA, THE SOUTHERN PART OF BEDFORD.

AS WE LOOK AT THE CAR WASHES IN THE AREA, WE THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND WE THINK IT'S A QUALITY DESIGN AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION BY COUNCILMEMBER.

YES A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WE'VE HAD.

I THINK VARIOUS COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE HAD EMAILS FROM A FEW OF OUR RESIDENTS.

YES, SOME CONCERNS IS THE NOISE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE USING BLOWERS THAT HAVE DAMPENING EQUIPMENT IN THERE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE LOUDER, AND I SAW THAT THE VACUUMING UNITS ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, KIND OF AWAY FROM THAT, BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS CHEMICALS THAT YOU USE THE ODORS AND CHEMICALS IN THE AIR. DO YOU GUYS USE ECO-FRIENDLY? OH, YEAH SO THE CHEMISTRY IS REALLY, I WOULD SAY, THE LEADING CHARGE IN THE CAR WASH INDUSTRY THESE DAYS, VERY, VERY CONTROLLED PH LEVELS.

THEY WOULD NOT HARM THE SOIL.

IF ALL THE CAR WASH WATER SPILLED OUT ONE DAY, IT WOULD NOT HARM THE SOIL PH LEVELS.

ALL THOSE SDMS SHEETS ARE AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME TO STUDY, BUT THAT IS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CAR WASH IF YOU'RE USING CHEMISTRY THAT POTENTIALLY DAMAGE THE FINISHES OF CARS.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE USE BECAUSE IT IS AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AS A MANUFACTURER OF THE CHEMISTRY, AND THERE ARE OTHER MANUFACTURERS LIKE OURSELVES.

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OKAY, AND THEN ANOTHER CONCERN IS JUST THAT THE TRAFFIC BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

YEAH. THERE IS A SCHOOL HALF A BLOCK AWAY AND THAT CHALLENGES I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED.

SO I'M GUESSING IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS YOU'LL WORK WITH, WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT SAFETY IS AN ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN MANAGE THAT FROM A STANDPOINT, BUT JUST TO KIND OF ANSWER THAT FROM A GENERAL HABIT STANDPOINT, NUMBER ONE IS, AS WE SAID, THAT THE CAR WASH IS DESIGNED AND LOCATED GENERALLY IN AN AREA WHERE IT MOST NATURALLY FEEDS FROM TRAFFIC.

SO WHEN THEY SEND TO US AND WE DO A DEMOGRAPHIC, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT INGRESS AND EGRESS.

HOW DOES IT SERVE THE IMMEDIATE AREA? NOW WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PATTERNS AND WE HEARD THOSE QUESTIONS, IT WOULD BE AWKWARD AND IT WOULD NOT BE NORMAL FOR SOMEBODY TO EXIT THE CAR WASH. WHO WHO APPROACHED THE CAR WASH FROM BROWN TRAIL AND WOULD GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW, IF SOMEBODY HAPPENED TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE WASH CLUB WILL PROBABLY BE RESIDENTS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY MAY BE COMING FROM THEIR OWN HOUSE, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO REAL DRIVING FORCE OR DESIGN OR INTENTION OF THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

SO THANK YOU. ALSO WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH CITY FOR ANY REQUIREMENTS OR ANY CONCERNS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HELP WITH, FOR FLOW OF TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT OCCUR.

WIDENING SIDEWALKS IF WE'RE ABLE TO WHATEVER YOU GUYS SUGGEST, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH.

ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A CONCERN, AND YOU DID SAY IF YOU DON'T GO IN THERE, SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING IN.

SURE. SO IT'S I KNOW THE CONCERNS AND I KNOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THIS FITS THAT, AND IT'S JUST CONCERNING TO OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE IT DUE TO NOISE.

YOU LIVE THERE. IT'S KIND OF BEING A GOOD STEWARD AND A GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNER.

SO OF COURSE, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE SITE PLAN, ENGINEERING CAME BACK TO US ASKING US TO ADD SIDEWALKS, WHICH WE AGREED TO, AND WE ADDED A SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE AS WELL, JUST IN CASE IF THAT'S THE CONCERN.

YEAH, AND THE DECIBEL STUDIES OF THE SITE WITHIN THE BUILDING, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

ONCE YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, THE DECIBEL LEVEL WOULD BE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN A PASSENGER CAR ON A BUSY STREET LIKE BROWN TRAIL.

SO BEING ON THAT SIDE OR ON THAT PROPERTY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ELEVATED NOISES.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT THE DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENCE ON EAST SIDE TO OUR, OUR BUILDING IS 150FT APPROXIMATELY, AND ADDITION OF THAT SCREEN WALL WILL DAMPEN THE SOUND MORE.

SO YOU BASICALLY 150FT AWAY.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR, BUT WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.

OH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR.

OKAY, SO. SO TWO QUESTIONS ONE IS.

SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY CHEMICALS.

RIGHT. SO AS A COUNCILMAN FARCO MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF US HAS RECEIVED EMAILS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THE AEROSOLIZED CHEMICALS AND THE EFFECT IT MAY HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO AEROSOL.

SO THESE CHEMICALS WON'T BECOME AIRBORNE AND AFFECT ANYONE'S HEALTH? YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD SHOW YOU THE PICTURES, BUT WE HAVE A VERY CONTROLLED BACK ROOM FROM A CLEANLINESS STANDPOINT, BUT THE CONTROLLED THE CONTROLLED HANDLING OF THE CHEMISTRY IS ALL DONE THROUGH HIGH END HYDROPHILIC PANELS AND PUMPS.

THERE IS NO REAL OPEN USE OF CHEMICAL WHATSOEVER.

SO ALL OF IT'S DONE THROUGH THROUGH STAINLESS STEEL LINES THAT RUN THROUGH THE TUNNEL FROM THE EQUIPMENT.

SO YOU WOULD NOT EVEN SEE THE CHEMISTRY.

WE HAVE POLY LINES AT CERTAIN CHEMISTRY, BUT AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S A CERAMIC CHEMISTRY OR A SOAP IS ALL IN A CONTROLLED EQUIPMENT ENVIRONMENT.

THERE IS NO AEROSOL, THERE'S NO EXPOSURE, THERE'S NO OUTWARD USE OF CHEMISTRY WHATSOEVER.

SO WHEN IT'S SPRAYING ON THE CAR, AND IT'S MAYBE SOME OF IT BLOWS OUT OF THE BUILDING.

THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED WHERE THEY REALLY NEED NO FLOW OUT OF THE CAR.

SO SO PART OF THE DEAL IS AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, WE HAVE 14 BLOWERS.

THOSE BLOWERS ARE DESIGNED TO DRY A CAR.

WE CAN'T DRY A CAR IN A WET ENVIRONMENT.

SO THE WET IS INSIDE THE CLEANING AREA OF THE TUNNEL.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT 125 FOOT TUNNEL, THE FIRST 75FT OF IT IS CLEANING, THE LAST ONE THIRD OF IT IS ESSENTIALLY DRYING, BUT REALLY THERE WOULD THERE WOULD BE VIRTUALLY.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER HAPPENED THAT WE HAVE CHEMISTRY COMING OUTSIDE THE TUNNEL BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY WATER.

OKAY, AND THEN IN MY FOLLOW UP FOR THE SOUND.

SO WITH THE BLOWERS, THERE'S, THERE'S SOUND SUPPRESSORS ON THEM OR I DON'T KNOW, ARE THEY CLASS THREE.

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SORRY. OKAY.

WELL, SO ONCE WE HAVE THROUGH THE WALL.

RIGHT. SO HOW LOUD, HOW MANY DECIBELS CAN WE WOULD WE ESTIMATE OF IT TO, TO AFFECT THE HOMEOWNERS TO THE EAST.

THE DECIBELS IF I'M STANDING UNDERNEATH THE BLOWER UNPROTECTED WITHOUT ANY SILENCERS, SITS AT ABOUT 80 TO 90DB IF I'M STANDING INSIDE THE TUNNEL AND FOR LAYMEN LIKE HOW DO WE COMPARE THAT TO WHAT'S 80? SO TALKING IS 60 OKAY, SO TALKING CONVERSATION IS 60DB.

DRIVING IN YOUR CAR WITH THE WINDOWS UP IS 70DB.

WHEN WE PUT SILENCER ON THE DECIBEL INSIDE THE TUNNEL OUTSIDE THE DECIBELS, THE INITIAL READINGS ARE RIGHT AT ABOUT 70 TO 75 WITHIN 25FT OF THE TUNNEL.

SO WE'RE ALREADY BELOW AT THE CAR LEVEL NOISE OUTSIDE THE TUNNEL, AND YOU EXTEND THAT EVERY 25FT.

YOU'RE REALLY AT NORMAL SOUND THAT YOU WOULD HEAR FROM SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS A BROUGHT UP AS AN OBJECTION, NOT NECESSARILY SCIENTIFIC OR ANY DATA.

IT WAS JUST AN ASSUMPTION, BUT YES, IF SOMEBODY'S STANDING INSIDE THE TUNNEL, WHICH WOULD ONLY BE THE EMPLOYEES, THEN YOU WOULD HEAR THE NOISE OF THE BLOWERS INSIDE THE TUNNEL, BUT OUTSIDE THE TUNNEL, BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE, BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT HAS WE WE HAVE SILENCERS ON THEM THAT IMMEDIATELY LOWER THE DECIBEL STANDING UNDERNEATH IT BY SEVEN DECIBELS.

SO WHEN YOU DO ANYTHING ON THE SOUND STUDIES AND I'VE GOT SEVERAL SOUND STUDIES THAT SHOW MULTIPLE CAR WASHES, WHEN WE GET 25FT, 50FT AWAY, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DECIBEL LEVEL IS? BUT REALLY WE'RE ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S ABOVE 80.

THAT WOULD BE A SOUND CONCERN, AND WE ARE AT 70.

ONCE YOU GET OUTSIDE THE TUNNEL IN THE MID 70S, WE'RE 70 25FT AWAY.

THANK YOU SIR. JUST TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE CHEMICALS, ALL OUR CHEMICALS ARE BIODEGRADABLE, SO THEY ARE ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT HOURS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE CLOSED.

WHAT TIME DO YOU ACTUALLY OPEN? WE OPEN BY 7 A.M.. EVERY DAY? EVERY THAT'S ON THE WEEKENDS, AND WE OPEN AT 8 A.M.

ON ON WEEKDAYS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR THIS? COUNCILMEMBER STEVES. THANK YOU MAYOR.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING.

OKAY. RIGHT NOW, IT'S A COMPLETELY PAVED LOT.

IT'S AN EMPTY AND I'M LOOKING AT THE DIAGRAM, THE SITE PLAN YOU HAVE HERE WITH WITH THE TREES.

ARE YOU WHAT LANDSCAPE ARE YOU ADDING AROUND THE PERIMETER? ARE YOU ADDING ANY TREES TO THAT OR WE HAVE EXISTING TREES, AND WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL TREES IF THAT'S REQUIRED, BUT WE PLAN TO PLANT MORE TREES.

SO IF YOU SEE ALL THOSE BIG TREES ARE DOUGLAS FIRS THAT ARE EXISTING AND WE HAVE SOME MORE TREES, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T SERVE, WE CAN ADD MORE DENSE TREES.

JUST JUST TO IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD MORE TREES ALONG THE SIDE THAT FACES THE HOUSES.

YES. YES, SIR.

THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY? YOU'RE ACTUALLY. YES, SIR. WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY OF THE EXISTING TREES OUT.

WE'RE PLANNING TO ADD MORE TREES, IF THAT'S A CONCERN.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE FOR THIS ITEM? HELLO. GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS CAMERON, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ON SOMETHING THAT NOT RELATED TO [INAUDIBLE] I REPRESENT THE SELLER [INAUDIBLE], AND WE I'M HELPING THEM TO LIST TO LAND TWO YEARS AGO, INCLUDING ONE ANOTHER ONE IN TENNIS, AND THIS BROWN TRAIL HAS BEEN SITTING IN THE MARKET FOR TWO YEARS AND WE GOT THREE OFFERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS A LIMOUSINE SERVICE, AND I THOUGHT THAT IS GOING TO BE PERFECT BECAUSE THEY CAN UTILIZE THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND THE FENCE GATE, BUT WHEN THEY GO TO THE CITY AND THE LIMOUSINE SERVICE IS CATEGORIZED UNDER BUS, TRUCK, TAXI, STORAGE YARD, WHICH UNDERLIES INDUSTRIAL ZONING, AND BECAUSE THIS LAND IS UNDER HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE, SO THE PROPERTY IS NOT MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA TO REZONE.

SO THEY DROPPED THE DEAL, AND LATER ON WE HAVE ANOTHER RETAIL DEVELOPER.

THEY WANT TO BUILD RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.

HOWEVER WE ARE TOLD THEY NEED TO HAVE A ACCESS FROM BROWN TRAIL, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S THE MINIMUM SPACING IS A 30 MILE PER HOUR, AND SO THEY DROPPED THE DEAL.

SO I THINK WITH THE CAR WASH THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE OLD CARS WHICH MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THIS USE.

THIS IS MY EXTRA POINT.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.

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SO FEEL FREE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME TO THE MIC.

YOU CAN RACE, YOU CAN ARM WRESTLE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

HELLO. MY NAME IS TONY REICHERT.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 45 YEARS.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU, AND I'M RETIRED, AND I GET MY CAR WASHED AT LEAST FIVE TIMES A WEEK, MAYBE MORE, BECAUSE I HAVE NO LIFE, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING WE GOT FOR THE CAR WASH IS THE CARNATION.

I'VE BEEN GOING THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND THE PRICES ARE GOING UP AND UP, AND I EVEN TRIED THE OTHER CARNATION IN EULESS BY WHATABURGER AND JUST NOT WHAT THEY USED TO BE.

WHAT THIS GUY IS SELLING.

I CAN'T DO ANY BETTER PRESENTATION THAN THEY DID.

I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD THING HE'S PROMOTING.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD CAR WASH, AND THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TERRENCE BUTLER, AND I ACTUALLY WORK FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS A RECIPIENT OF Q CAR WASH GIVING US A GIFT.

I GUESS I WASN'T HANDSOME ENOUGH.

I DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE PICTURES THAT THEY PUT UP, BUT THAT'S OKAY [CHUCKLING] AND BUT NO, AND IT ACTUALLY WAS BIRDVILLE AND THE HALTOM AREA, AND WE RECEIVED $5,000 ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT REALLY HELPED OUR NONPROFIT, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY IN SHADYBROOK ELEMENTARY.

SO I'M EXCITED IF THEY GET A CAR WASH HERE.

THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD PARTNERS WITH NONPROFITS.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALTHOUGH WE'LL SAY WE CAN'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT THEY WILL DO AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY.

WE CAN'T MAKE THAT VALUE AMOUNT NOR CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT AT THIS TIME AS WE'RE APPROVING IT.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE GREEN.

I LIVE AT 1828 RAVENSWOOD DRIVE NORTH, AND I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE CAR WASH BEING IN MY FRONT YARD.

WE HAVE SEVERAL REASONS THAT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS FEEL THAT IT'S JUST NOT AN APPROPRIATE FIT WITH OUR HOMES, ONE BEING THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BECAUSE IT DOES TURN ON TO THE RESIDENTIAL STREET.

THERE IS NO ENTRANCE OFF OF BROWN TRAIL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF WALKING TRAFFIC WITH OUR KIDDOS COMING BACK AND FORTH FROM SCHOOL, GOING UP TO THE UM.

PLAYGROUND AT STONEGATE.

WE'VE GOT PRACTICE THERE IN THE EVENINGS WITH SOFTBALL, BASEBALL.

IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT SEEMS VERY INVITING TO US AS RESIDENTS.

WE WALK A LOT WITH OUR DOG.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THE NOISE IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST COME OVER THAT WALL AND INVADE MY YARD.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ENTERPRISE IS ACROSS BROWN TRAIL, IT HAS A SECURITY SYSTEM, AND AT NIGHT YOU CAN HEAR IT WHEN IT TALKS.

SO THAT IS ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE PEOPLE BEING IN THE CAR WASH OUTSIDE WITH THEIR STEREOS AND WHATNOT.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE NO AND HELP US KEEP THE BALANCE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING WILL GO IN THERE EVENTUALLY, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE A GOOD FIT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, CRAIG WATSON.

MY WIFE SARA. WE LIVE AT 1904, OLD KIRK, AND WE UNDERSTAND SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO IN THERE, TOO.

THEY SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE A NICE BUSINESS.

THEY GIVE A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY KNOW A LOT ABOUT CHEMISTRY AND EVERYTHING, BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT EXIT ONTO OLD KIRK RIGHT THERE.

10,000 CARS THEY SAY GO DOWN BROWN TRAIL EVERY DAY, BUT 10,000 DON'T GO DOWN OLD KIRK, AND IT'S ALREADY HARD ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM OVER HERE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

IF THAT GOES IN THERE, IT'LL TAKE AWAY THAT EXIT.

THE TWO OTHER EXITS OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE TAKEN AWAY BY THE SCHOOL ZONE FOR A FEW HOURS EVERY DAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN GET IN AND OUT IS RIGHT THERE, AND IF WE'VE GOT CONSTANT TRAFFIC COMING IN THAT IF THEY WANT TO PUT AN ENTRANCE ON BROWN TRAIL AND FIX THE SITUATION, THAT'S AWESOME, GO FOR IT BUT ON OLD KIRK, WE CAN'T HAVE.

HOW MANY CARS WOULD YOU ALL HAVE A DAY, YOU ALL THINK GOING THROUGH THERE.

WE PULL FROM TRAFFIC AT ABOUT 1% TO 1.5% MOST OF TRAFFIC.

SO YOU SAID 80,000 CARS.

SO HUNDRED CARS AT MOST.

WELL, THAT'S NOT YOUR MATH THOUGH. YOU SAID 80,000 VEHICLES WAS YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC WITH 44,000 THEN 1.7.

IT'S AVAILABLE VEHICLES THAT EVENTUALLY WILL WASH THEIR CARS.

SO NOT IN A GIVEN DAY.

1% WOULD BE 800.

BY HIS MATH, HE GAVE YOU ALL EARLIER.

THAT'S A LOT OF CARS COMING THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY ON THAT STREET, AND IF THEY CAN TURN, IF THEY CAN ONLY TURN LEFT OUT OF THERE, THAT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER BECAUSE THEY WILL TURN RIGHT. RAVENWOOD DOES IT TIGHT.

TURN RIGHT THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE US BACK INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET CAUGHT UP IN THE SCHOOL ZONES ALL THE TIME.

IT'S A ONE WAY IF THEY CAN MAKE IT A RIGHT TURN, I MEAN, A LEFT TURN ONLY WHEN THEY COME OUT, THAT MIGHT EVEN WORK, BUT IF NOT, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ON BROWN TRAIL.

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IT LOOKS GREAT. THE OLD STUFF IS TIGHT.

THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S GOING TO KILL OLD KIRK AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT FOR IT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, AND I WILL SAY THIS FOR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU DON'T MIND WAITING AND THEN ADDRESSING CONCERNS AT THAT TIME. YOU BET. THANK YOU.

HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALICIA STEVENS.

I LIVE AT 1836 RAVENSWOOD DRIVE NORTH, DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SPACE, AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE CAR WASH BEING PUT IN THERE SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

I KNOW THEY ADDRESSED EVERYTHING, BUT I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF IT.

WITH EVERYONE WALKING TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL I ESPECIALLY HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE NOISE BECAUSE, LIKE SHE SAID YOU CAN HEAR THAT ALARM ACROSS THE STREET AT ENTERPRISE ALL THE TIME, AND THAT'S FURTHER AWAY, AND THAT'S JUST THE ALARM.

EXCUSE ME AND THE DRYERS ARE AT THE END OF IT, AND I THINK IS THERE THE PICTURE WHERE IT SHOWS THE. SO LIKE, RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE COMING OUT, IS THAT WHERE THE SIDE OF THE HOUSES IS? WHERE YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THE DRYERS.

THAT'S NOT [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, EITHER WAY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THEN THE HEIGHT.

HOW TALL WOULD IT BE ABOVE THAT WALL THAT'S THERE? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK? YEAH I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP.

NO. GO AHEAD. YEAH THANK YOU FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR VOICING YOUR CONCERNS.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IF IT'S PLEASING TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY, WE CAN DO A DRIVEWAY OR, WHAT IS THAT, A SLOWDOWN LANE, AN ENTRANCE.

FIX THAT STORM DRAIN ON THE BROWN TRAIL.

YES IF THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CONCERN, THEN WE CAN DO A LANE AND ENTRANCE OFF OF BROWN TRAIL.

WE ORIGINALLY WANTED THAT LIKE, BECAUSE 30MPH IS [INAUDIBLE] LIKE THE FIRST ONE WE THE FIRST SITE PLAN WE ENTERED HAD THAT IT WAS TAKEN AWAY AFTER MEETINGS WITH THE CITY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO FIX THAT STORM DRAIN AND ADD THAT DIESEL LANE IN THE ENTRANCE OFF OF BROWN TRAIL AFTER HEARING CONCERNS, BUT BUT THE THING IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENTS ALSO BECAUSE YOU'RE NEAR TO AN INTERSECTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT ENTRANCE OFF THERE.

YOU SHOULD BE.

YOU SHOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.

HE'S THE BRAINS OF IT. LIKE YEAH, BUT WE'LL GET IT.

SO NOW, JUST TO BE CLEAR NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE GOING FOR CREATING AN ENTRANCE ON BROWN TRAIL.

OF COURSE. WE ORIGINALLY WANTED THE ENTRANCE ON BROWN TRAIL AFTER YOU MET WITH.

WES, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WE HAD SOME FIRE LANE CONCERNS WHEN WE HAD THE ENTRANCE OF A BROWN TRAIL.

SO INITIALLY WE SUBMITTED ENTRANCE FROM THE BROWN TRAIL, BUT THEN WE HAD CONCERNS FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY SO WE CAN DO THAT, AND THEN.

[INAUDIBLE] IF RESIDENTS ARE WILLING, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC GOING ON TO THE NEIGHBORS, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ADD A SIGN THERE SAYING LEFT TURN ONLY, NO RIGHT TURN AND HAVE OUR STAFF MONITOR THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

WES I DON'T THIS IS I KNOW THEY WANT THE PROJECT TO GO THROUGH.

SURE. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

NO. I WOULD RECOMMEND IF IF THE APPLICANT'S WANTING TO CHANGE THINGS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO DESIGN THE SITE UP HERE TONIGHT IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO CHANGE THINGS, THEN LET'S TABLE THIS, AND LET'S LET THE APPLICANT WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN IN ADDRESSING THAT STORM DRAIN.

SO I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT UP HERE SO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL THEN STAFF WILL GLADLY WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WES.

COUNCILMEMBER STEVE.

WHAT ABOUT THE OPTION OF PUTTING A LEFT TURN ONLY COMING OUT OF THAT IS THAT.

I MAY LEAN ON LEGAL HERE.

I MEAN, I GUESS COULD THAT BE A CONDITION THEY COULD PLACE? AND WHAT ARE YOUR I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO WE'D HAVE TO.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO IF THE CONDITION IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO PLACE A LEFT TURN ONLY SIGN ON THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULDN'T BE CRIMINALLY ENFORCEABLE, THAT'S NOT THEY WOULDN'T VIOLATE AN ORDINANCE IF A CUSTOMER TURNED RIGHT IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

WE'D HAVE TO ERECT SOME SIGNS AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY PENALIZED TURNING.

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GOTCHA. COUNCILMEMBER GAGLIARDI.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

WES, REAL QUICK. SO NOW WE HAVE THE CURVE BALL.

SO THE APPLICANT SAID THAT INITIALLY THEY WANTED SOMETHING OFF OF BROWN TRAIL.

WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT? PREDOMINANTLY MY RECOLLECTION IS THE STORM DRAIN THAT WAS THERE.

I DO RECALL A CONVERSATION ABOUT FIRE LANE ACCESS, BUT REALLY AND TRULY FIRE LANE ACCESS CAN BE I MEAN, THE SITE THAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROVIDED STAFF IN THE VERY FIRST PRE-DEVELOPMENT WE HAD LOOKED A LOT DIFFERENT AND THERE WAS A FIRE LANE ISSUE, BUT THE DRIVE ACCESS, I REMEMBER IT BEING A STORM DRAIN ISSUE . IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE SITE AGAIN WITH STAFF, WITH ENGINEERING, WITH FIRE MARSHAL, EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY WE CAN MAKE THAT DRIVE WORK, THEN IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, WE CAN DO THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

WES, I DO BELIEVE IT USED TO BE EITHER A GOLDEN CORRAL OR A MEXICAN RESTAURANT BEFORE, AND IT HAD ACCESS OFF OF BROWN TRAIL IN THE PAST FOR THAT SITE. I THINK THEY JUST CLOSED IT OFF FOR THE THEY WANTED ONE WAY IN AND OUT FOR THE IT WAS A STORAGE FACILITY FOR GRUBS OR WHATEVER FOR THEIR EXCESS CARS, BUT, I MEAN, I DO BELIEVE AT ONE TIME THERE WAS I DON'T THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S FEASIBLE.

IT JUST IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.

YEAH. LOOKING LOOKING AT THIS, THIS SITE, MY ORIGINAL WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT WAS WHY IS IT NOT ON BROWN TRAIL? THE ACCESS, AND SO TO ME HAVING MORE EYES ON THIS ENGINEERING HAVING FIRE MARSHAL ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT AND IF WE GET, I DON'T KNOW, CONCRETE, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CONCRETE ON DECIBEL LEVELS.

OKAY. IF WE COULD JUST TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW THAT WHAT IT'S LIKE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT INITIALLY ALSO IT'S EXTREMELY CLOSE TO RESIDENTS, AND I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, ANY TIME I LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF CASES, I THINK TO MYSELF, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS MY HOUSE.

WHAT ARE MY CONCERNS AND THEY'RE VALID 100% SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT IS COUNCIL'S WISH TO TABLE IT, THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE DECIBEL LEVELS, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING A GOOD ENTRANCE ONTO BROWN TRAIL AND MEETING THOSE CONCERNS.

SO IF I CAN JUST ON ONE QUICK THING ON THE DECIBEL LEVELS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING YOU WHAT YOU NEED.

WE COULD DO SOME RESEARCH ON CAR WASHES AND TYPICAL DECIBEL LEVELS AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

WE CAN DO THAT OKAY.

ALONG WITH THE WITH THE VACUUMS AND EVERYTHING.

SURE. THOSE ARE NOISY AS WELL.

WE I MEAN, THE APPLICANTS PROVIDED THEIR INFORMATION.

WE CAN DO SOME INDEPENDENT RESEARCH.

[INAUDIBLE] RESEARCH, NO OFFENSE TO THE APPLICANT.

FAIR ENOUGH, BUT JUST JUST TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE I THINK THEY DESERVE THAT.

OKAY. YEAH WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BRYN.

WE'RE ASKING TO DO DECIBEL LEVELS ON THEM.

DID WE DO DECIBEL LEVELS ON ANY OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING BUSINESSES? BECAUSE THAT, TO ME SEEMS A LITTLE BIT IF WE'VE DONE IT FOR ONE, IT'S ONE THING, BUT IF WE'VE NOT DONE IT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF A DECIBEL MEASURE BEING PERFORMED ON ANY OTHER APPLICANTS SEEKING ZONING APPROVAL, AND WE MAY HAVE, GENERAL, AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A GENERAL SOUND ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES NOISE THAT'S APPLICABLE TO EVERYONE.

CORRECT. SO, I MEAN, EVEN THAT BEING THE CASE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS RESIDENT CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY ALSO WITH HOURS OF 7 A.M.

IN THE MORNING ON A WEEKEND, AND THAT IS, I BELIEVE, A REASONABLE CONDITION YOU CAN PLACE ON OPERATIONS.

SO. SURE.

YEAH. TO LIMIT BUSINESS HOURS, EIGHT ON THE WEEKENDS, SEVEN DURING THE WEEK.

YES. SO SEVEN DURING THE WEEK.

SEVEN DURING THE WEEK.

YES. EIGHT ON THE WEEKENDS.

IT WAS A MISSPOKEN OKAY.

7:00 A.M..

OKAY ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? WES? ALL RIGHT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

COUNCILMEMBER. I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES. GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

WES WE JUST ENGAGED IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT, AND THIS IS AN ENTRANCE TO A BROWN TRAIL IS ONE OF OUR ENTRANCES, AND WE CONTINUE TO SAY WE CARE ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE.

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I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING A VIABLE I THINK IT TAKES US A LONG TIME TO REALIZE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MIGHT WORK IN THE FUTURE.

A CAR WASH DOESN'T SAY TO ME, WE NEED THAT GOING INTO A GREAT CORRIDOR IN THE SOUTH SIDE, AND IN THAT, THE CONSULTANTS TOLD US THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE BEST PLACE FOR US TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE DESIGN OF THAT AREA, IS PROBABLY AROUND TURNING POINT 209 BEDFORD ROAD.

THAT'S THE PLACE THAT WE CAN REVITALIZE EASIEST, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US AS A CITY TO DO A CHANGE LIKE THIS TO, TO CHANGE OVER A WHOLE AREA SUCH AS THE SOUTH SIDE.

A CAR WASH JUST DOESN'T SPEAK TO ME AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS IT PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE WITH OUR CURRENTLY ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IT IS IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VAGUE AND PROBABLY NOT AS SPECIFIC AS WE HOPE OUR FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE THE STRUGGLE STAFF HAS IN ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ADOPTED, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT I THINK IS WANTING TO MEET THE GOALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE TO OPERATE OFF OF WHAT WE HAVE ADOPTED TODAY.

SO I WOULD BASED ON DRAFTS AND BASED ON THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS LOOKED AT AS A WHOLE RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE A USE THAT WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE, THE FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED ON A DRAFT, BUT STAFF CAN'T LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS TO WHAT'S ADOPTED TODAY, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT, AND COUNCIL IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THAT, IT SHOULD BE OUR PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION, AND IF WE IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES WE GO BACK TO THE OLD DAYS WHERE WE SAY, WELL, IT FITS, SO LET'S JUST PUT IT IN THERE AND WHEN DO WE MAKE THE CHANGE FOR THE SOUTH SIDE? WHEN DO WE SAY WE DON'T WANT THIS FOR THE SOUTH SIDE? WE WANT TO CHANGE THE WHOLE DIRECTION OF THE SOUTH SIDE GOES.

COULD I? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT ONCE WE WERE FINISHED SPEAKING, I APOLOGIZE.

I'VE LOST MY CHAIN.

[CHUCKLING] I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.

I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT. IT WAS A LONG PAUSE.

[CHUCKLING] SOMETIMES I HAVE TO DO THAT TO THINK.

I UNDERSTAND; ME AS WELL.

IT'S JUST THAT I DON'T I JUST THINK IT'S MORE OF THE SAME THAT WE'VE DONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND I JUST, I THINK IF THIS IS WHERE OUR CONSULTANTS ARE TELLING US THIS IS WHERE OUR CHANGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF A LOT OF THE AREA DOWN THERE IS REALLY ROUGH.

I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A CAR WASH BEING THERE AND I DO.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT IN THAT AREA, I JUST I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT TO THEM.

IT'S BEEN A QUIET PARKING LOT, I REALIZE, AND THEY THEY DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE NISSAN PLACE, BUT I GUESS IT'S NISSAN.

THEY DID WORK WITH GRUBBS WHEN THEY PUT THAT PARKING LOT IN THERE, AND THEY WERE PRETTY PLEASED WITH IT.

SO IT WASN'T THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THAT PARKING LOT, IT WAS THAT IT JUST NEEDED TO BE JUST RIGHT BUT THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL IN THAT IT MAKES NOISE.

THE ENTRANCE IS NOT GOOD.

IT GOES RIGHT OUT ONTO THEIR STREETS.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

I JUST WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF A CAR WASH THERE PERIOD.

THAT'S JUST ME, AND I DON'T CARE TO TABLE IT.

SO THAT'S ME. IT COULD BE EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPINION.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'D LIKE TO.

I'D LIKE OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ADDRESS, AND THEN JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, I THINK NOISE, TRAFFIC, COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, THOSE ARE ALL LEGITIMATE BASES FOR A DENIAL, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL CHOOSES.

IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE TO DENY IT ON THE BASIS OF INCOMPATIBILITY WITH AN UN-ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO I JUST JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, AND, AND I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, BUT AS WES SAID, IF THIS WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT IT FORWARD, AND SO I THINK WITHOUT WES HAVING ACTUALLY COME RIGHT OUT AND STATING IT BLUNTLY THIS CURRENT USE WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO APPROVE IT.

WE JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO DENY IT ON THE BASIS OF INCOMPATIBILITY WITH A PLAN THAT HAD NOT BEEN ADOPTED, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT I SAID AS FAR AS BEING

[01:55:06]

THOSE ARE ALL RELATIVE, AND THOSE BOTHER ME TOO.

YES. JUST BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.

SO. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THE OTHER DAY, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL GIVE A THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN EMERY HE TOOK TIME OUT OF HIS BUSY DAY, AND I TOOK TIME OUT OF MY 50 HOUR WORKWEEK, ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN FARCO AND COUNCILMAN STEVES, AND WE WENT AND VISITED THE SITE BECAUSE I WANTED TO PUT EYES ON SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO JUST LOOK AT PICTURES, BUT TO GET IN IT.

I BELIEVE A LOT, AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION FROM RESIDENTS, AND I AND I APPRECIATE THEIR CONCERN AND I APPRECIATE THEM REACHING OUT AND ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN TODAY, HAVE BEEN ANSWERED BY THE Q CAR WASH PEOPLE ABOUT THE SOUND DEADENING AND ABOUT THE DISTANCE ACROSS THE STREET.

SO IF THAT THE DISTANCE FROM THE BLOWERS TO THE HOUSE IS 150FT, IS THAT WHAT WE SAID? BUT ON ON DECIBEL RATINGS WE MEASURE IT DROPS EVERY 25FT.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT QUESTION WAS ANSWERED, BUT THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUND AND COMPATIBILITY.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A VERY NICE FACILITY.

THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THEY HELP THE COMMUNITY, THEY HELP THE CITY, AND THEY WORK HAND IN HAND.

I MEAN, I JUST DON'T I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM AS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S MY OPINION BUT OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT IT TO IMPACT RESIDENTS NEGATIVELY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WON'T.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOUND DEADENING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE WILLING TO MOVE THE EXIT ONTO BROWN TRAIL.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE NO THE I'VE GOTTEN 15 EMAILS SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE HARMFUL CHEMICALS IN THE AIR.

SO I BELIEVE I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE AND I ASKED, I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO SEE MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEETS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IF WE'RE ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS AS A COUNCIL, WE REPRESENT 40,000 PEOPLE, AND RIGHT NOW THAT LOT MAKES THE CITY ZERO MONEY.

CORRECT. SO IF WE PUT A BUSINESS ON IT, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE INCREASED REVENUE, WE'RE SERVICING BECAUSE PEOPLE WASH THEIR CARS.

TONY NEEDS TO WASH HIS CAR.

[CHUCKLING] COME ON TONY.

SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT SO I'M A.

I'M A PROPONENT TO IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY BE SWITCHING IT GOING ON TO BROWN TRAIL, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BUT AS FAR AS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT, I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S A SOUND NEGATIVE IMPACT. WE'VE ANSWERED THAT HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS.

WE'VE ANSWERED THAT, AND I GUESS THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY BUT YOU KNOW AND PLUS IT'S GOING TO KEEP THEY'RE KEEPING THE MASONRY WALL AND THE GREENERY AROUND IT.

ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS. MR. MAYOR, I JUST DIDN'T I JUST HAD A BASIC PROCESS QUESTION.

AS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN, IT IS OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING THE GAVEL [CHUCKLING].

HELLO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE].

I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF Q CAR WASH, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I KNOW THAT MANY CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE AND MANY PEOPLE LOOK AT CAR WASHES AND THEY THINK OF THEM AS A NEGATIVE SITUATION, AND THAT'S TRUE.

THE HISTORY OF CAR WASHES MAY NOT HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD, BUT THIS NEW MODEL IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR MODELS BEING BUILT ALL ACROSS THE US, AND IT'S THE MODEL IS ABOUT 22 YEARS OLD, AND IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IT'S FROM THE TIME WHERE WE USED TO BUY 50 CENT CUPS OF COFFEE AT 7-ELEVEN IN A WHITE CUP, AND TODAY WE GO TO STARBUCKS AND PAY $5 FOR A LATTE.

IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, AND WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE LIKE THE CHICK FIL A OF CAR WASHES, WHERE WE HAVE WELL-DRESSED ATTENDANTS PROVIDING CLEAN FACILITIES WHERE MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE LADIES, THEY COME THERE, THEY WASH THEIR CAR, THE FACILITIES ARE VERY SAFE, AND THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT OUR BUSINESS IS WE MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD.

PEOPLE WASH THEIR CARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

AS LONG AS THE CAR IS CLEAN, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AGAIN AND WE'RE IN THE MEMBERSHIP MODEL.

SO THE VALUE THAT WE CREATE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS IS FOR AS LOW AS 1999.

YOU CAN PUT A STICKER ON YOUR CAR AND YOU CAN WASH IT EVERY DAY IF YOU WANT TO, AND IF IT RAINS OR IF YOU GO THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.

YOU GO TO ANY ONE OF THE LOCATIONS AND WASH THE CAR.

SO THE VALUE PROPOSITION IS, IS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROPOSITION, AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE THIS BUSINESS, AND WE CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL UNLESS THE COMMUNITY LOVES US, THE PEOPLE AROUND US.

THEY HAVE TO LOVE US, AND THAT'S WHY WE GIVE BACK, AND WE WANT TO INTERACT WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM THIS VALUE PROPOSITION AND KEEP OUR PLACES CLEAN AND ATTRACTIVE, AND I FEEL LIKE

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP.

HI, MY NAME IS LEWIS HERNANDEZ.

I'M WITH LE ENGINEERING, ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS OF Q WASH.

BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND ALONG WITH.

WE'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST INSTALLERS AND WE'RE THE CAR WASH GUYS.

ANYTIME WE'RE INSTALLING NEW EQUIPMENT, WHEN EQUIPMENT BREAKS DOWN OR ANYTIME THEY NEED SOAPS OR ANY KIND OF SERVICE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CAR WASH.

WE'RE THE COMPANY THAT THEY CALL ALONG WITH THESE TWO TO GET THE JOB DONE, AND ONE THING ABOUT Q WASH THAT, YOU KNOW IF YOU ALL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM IS YOU'RE NOT JUST GETTING A CAR WASH IN BEDFORD TO BE HONEST, YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST CAR WASH YOU COULD EVER POSSIBLY HAVE IN YOUR CITY I DEAL WITH PRETTY MUCH ALL THE CAR WASHES IN ALL OF TEXAS, AND THERE'S NOBODY THAT OPERATES LIKE THESE GUYS.

LIKE THEY SAID, THEY'RE THE MOST FRIENDLIEST, GOT THE BEST FACILITIES, USE THE SAFEST SOAPS YOU COULD USE ON CARS.

TO BE HONEST, MY DAUGHTER'S A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SHE ACTUALLY IS A MEMBER OF THEIR STAFF SHE WORKS AT THEIR EAST CHASE LOCATION.

SO YOU'RE GETTING A BIG ASSET TO BE PART OF THE COMPANY, I MEAN, PART OF THE CITY, AND AS FAR AS THE NOISE AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I DO IT, THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF NEIGHBORS.

THEY WERE BUILDING A CAR WASH NEXT TO MY HOUSE I WOULD FEEL, IT WOULD BE, YES, YOU THINK CAR WASHES ARE LOUD OH, SORRY, BUT IF YOU YOU ALL COULD GO BY THERE. YOU DON'T.

IF YOU'RE PARKED IN FRONT OF THE STREET, YOU WON'T HEAR A SINGLE THING IN THE CAR WASH.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A CAR PASS BY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOMEBODY BLOWING THEIR YARD A LOT LOUDER THAN THE ACTUAL CAR WASH EQUIPMENT OPERATING THESE GUYS BY STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT THEY THEY DON'T WANT THEY WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE BEST EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE LOUD, OR IT'S GOING TO MAKE ANY KIND OF CONCERN FOR THE CUSTOMERS NOT TO WANT TO COME BACK.

SO YOU CAN STAND AT ANY PART OF THEIR WHOLE FACILITY OR THEIR PROPERTY, EVEN NEAR THE TUNNELS, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ANYTHING THERE.

I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED, BUT IF I WAS LIVING THERE, I WOULD WANT THEM TO BE MY NEIGHBORS IF THEY WERE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING THERE, AND IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THEY DO ABOUT 50 CARS AN HOUR, WHICH AN AVERAGE, A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

THEY'RE DOING 2 OR 300 CARS AN HOUR.

SO THE TRAFFIC THERE VERSUS THE CAR WASH VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE IS MATHEMATICALLY AT THE ALL TIME MINIMUM SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT SOUND, BUT THE DRIVE-THRU CHICK FIL A OR MCDONALD'S OR ANY KIND OF STORE IS GOING TO HAVE LOUDER NOISE AND THAN AN AVERAGE CAR WASH, AND TO BE HONEST, CAR WASHES MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, IT'S JUST ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MODELS IN THE CAR WASH INDUSTRY.

SO YEAH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, AND YEAH, THAT'S IT.

I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU ALL.

LIKE AS FAR AS ANYTHING, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU CRAIG WATSON, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK FOR Q CAR WASH THAT'S NOT ON THE PAYROLL IN SOME FACILITY OF Q CAR WASH.

YOU'RE ON THE PAYROLL, YOU DON'T GET PAID BY THEM.

OKAY? SO THEY KEEP SAYING THAT CARS ARE LOUDER.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING 800 MORE CARS DOWN OLD KIRK EVERY DAY BY THEIR MATH.

THAT'S WITH THE TRAFFIC IS BEING IGNORED FOR THE DECIBELS.

I'M NOT. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE DECIBELS.

THERE'S CARS GOING UP AND DOWN THE HIGHWAY, HIGH BOOTS AND MOTORCYCLES ALL NIGHT.

THEY'RE SUPER LOUD, BUT TURNING ON TO OLD KIRK THERE IS GOING TO MAKE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE IN ON THAT STREET AND RAVENSWOOD AND ALL THE OTHERS AND THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT BURIED IS WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON CHEMICALS AND CHEMISTRY AND NOISE, BUT IT'S THE TRAFFIC OF 800 CARS EXITING RIGHT THERE ON THAT LITTLE BITTY ROAD EVERY DAY THAT'S GOING TO KILL US.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE?

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SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT 8:05.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

THAT WAS A LONG ONE SO WITH THIS ONE, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE ASPECTS FOR ME.

I'M LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS FOR THE RESIDENTS, WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE HAVING IN THEIR BACKYARD WE HAVE TO LOOK AT USE.

IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY GIVEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE? YES IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED, BUT IT IS VACANT, AND THERE'S VERY WELL POTENTIAL THAT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY WITH WITH WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT IN THAT AREA THAT BEING SAID, WITH THE NOISE LEVELS, WITH THAT ONE I'LL BE HONEST, IF I WAS LIVING RIGHT THERE, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT THIS TO BE IN MY, IN MY BACKYARD JUST BY LOOKING AT IT THAT IS MY TWO CENTS SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS CASE.

I'M MAKING THE MOTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AND WE'LL SEE IF I GET A SECOND FOR THIS SO THIS IS NUMBER SEVEN.

SO WE LOOK AT THIS.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENIAL OF ORDINANCE TO REZONE PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT A, BLOCK 17R STONEGATE ADDITION-BEDFORD FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CAR WASH ESTABLISHMENT PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OLD KIRK ROAD.

BROWN TRAIL, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1428 BROWN TRAIL PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S MY MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS SECOND.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY.

EXPLAIN HOW THE MEETING WORKS, PLEASE.

YEAH. SO TYPICALLY AFTER THE MOTION, AND SECOND, THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THE VOTE IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL OKAY.

SO WE CAN DISCUSS. SURE.

CAN WE CLEAR THE VOTES THEN? CLEAR THE VOTES. ALL RIGHT.

SO IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION, I GUESS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING AN ENTRANCE ONTO BROWN TRAIL.

SO [INAUDIBLE] WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO TABLE IT.

SO THEN WE COULD SEE THE SITE PLAN ON BROWN TRAIL, INSTEAD OF OUTRIGHT DENYING A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO MOVE TO BEDFORD.

THIS IS MY MOTION, AND SO I'M ASKING YOU SO.

SO YOU THINK YOU THINK WE DON'T NEED TO SEE THE NEW SITE PLAN? FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USE.

SO THE FACTS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WERE THE DECIBELS DON'T REALLY AFFECT YOU DON'T WE DON'T LISTEN TO FACTS ANYMORE.

FACTS COMING FROM I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT UP HERE IN PUBLIC WITH THAT WHEN MY CONCERN FOR THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE ADJACENT LAND USE, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL, HAVING IT IN THE BACKYARD THEIR NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM THEM THEMSELVES.

I KNOW IF I WAS IN THEIR SHOES, I WOULD NOT PERSONALLY WANT THIS IN MY BACKYARD.

I'M BEING COMPLETELY HONEST.

IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ADJACENT LAND USE AND THAT IS MY BASIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT A PRIOR MEETING.

THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO LIVED ON THE NORTH SIDE WHO DIDN'T WANT 6 TO $800,000 HOMES IN THEIR BACKYARD, AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED TEN SQUARE MILES AND 48,000 PEOPLE.

THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT IT, AND WE CAN VOTE. OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY.

[INAUDIBLE] MOTION TO DENY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S A TIE. SO I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO LEGAL.

SO THE MOTION FAILS BASED ON THE TIE.

THE MOTION FAILS TO ENTERTAIN.

ENTERTAIN, AND SO AT THIS POINT, NOW WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR EITHER EITHER TABLING, FOR MOVING ON FORWARD FOR FOR IN INTEREST TO BROWN TRAIL AND ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO TABLE WITH ALL THE ITEMS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, INCLUDING DECIBEL LEVELS, INCLUDING YEAH, NO BROWN TRAIL AND DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

MY MOTION TO TABLE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND I HAVE DISCUSSION. OKAY, DISCUSSION.

GO AHEAD.

MR. MAYOR, SO WITH MAYOR PRO TEM'S MOTION ON THE TABLE, WOULDN'T WE NEED TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING OR UNTIL SOME ACTION HAPPENS AND WHEN THIS ITEM OF BUSINESS CAN BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN? RIGHT. SO ACTUALLY, THANK YOU FOR FOR MENTIONING THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT RATHER THAN TABLING IT TO A DATE CERTAIN, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IS INVOLVED IN MODIFYING THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN TABLE IT TO A DATE AT WHICH TIME THE APPLICANT IS READY TO REPRESENT.

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SUCH TIME THAT THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO COME BACK WITH A NEW SITE PLAN, CORRECT? SECOND BY SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER STEVES.

LET'S GO AND VOTE.

OKAY. SO THAT PASSES 5-1.

ALL RIGHT. THANK COUNCIL THANK YOU STAFF.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW SITE PLAN WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS AND MORE INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT ON OUR LIST WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT.

[8. Public hearing and consider an ordinance to rezone the property described as Lot 1, Block 1 Harwood/Central Shopping Center Addition from Planned Unit Development to Planned Unit Development/Specific Use Permit-Indoor Amusement Center and the property is generally located approximately 500 feet north of Harwood Road, west of Central Drive, commonly known as 2113 Harwood Road, Suite 351. (SUP-23-22). The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 7-0-0.]

COMMONLY KNOWN AS 2113 HARVARD ROAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS THIS PROPERTY IS AS DESCRIBED HARWOOD AND CENTRAL DRIVE, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THE SHOPPING CENTER HAS VARIOUS USES WITHIN IT APPROXIMATELY 119,000FT² OF RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, OFFICE USES WITH FEW VACANT SUITES THEY'RE LOCATED.

THE SITE ALSO HAS APPROXIMATELY 639 PARKING STALLS ON SITE AS WELL.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO A 5900 SQUARE FOOT UH SUITE FOR AN ARCADE AND GAME WITH FOOD AND DRINK THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN INDOOR AMUSEMENT PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SURROUNDING THE SITE.

YOU'VE GOT, AGAIN, RETAIL, SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS CENTRAL DRIVE AND A RESTAURANT USE AND RETAIL TO THE SOUTH.

STAFF NOTIFIED 32 ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS.

WE PUT A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AND TO DATE WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF 7 TO 0.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, WES. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR WES? ALL RIGHT. APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE. YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:12.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.

HOW DO I FOLLOW THAT MAN? ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS MIKE WOODS.

I LIVE AT 4882 LODGEPOLE LANE IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

THIS HERE IS THE PRESIDENT OF OUR COMPANY.

HIS NAME IS MR. MIKE MURRAY, AND THAT IS HIS BROTHER, DAVID MURRAY, WHO IS ALSO ON THE TEAM.

HE'S A PRINCIPAL MEMBER.

YOU GUYS HAVE OUR DECK.

LET ME ASK AMANDA, DO YOU HAVE WE DO NOT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXTRAS, BUT MORE THAN WELCOME TO HAVE THOSE, AKA A SLIDESHOW.

OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU.

THERE WAS A SLIDESHOW, BUT IT WASN'T AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

COUNCILMEMBER STEVES, DO YOU MIND SHARING WITH COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS? I'LL SHARE WITH COUNCILMEMBER STEVES.

OKAY. SO I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US REALLY QUICK.

I AM THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE ELECTRIC STARSHIP ARCADE OPENED UP IN 2020.

RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE PANDEMIC, ACTUALLY IN HALTOM CITY.

SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO BRING TO YOU GUYS HERE IN BEDFORD, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, BY THE WAY MAYOR AND COUNCIL WE WANT TO BRING OUR FAMILY BUSINESS TO YOU AND BECOME AN ENTERTAINMENT STAPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

IMAGINE CHILDREN, BEST FRIENDS, SCROUNGING UP A HANDFUL OF QUARTERS SO THEY CAN GO TO THEIR LOCAL ARCADE AND BEAT THE HIGH SCORE ON PAC-MAN OR DONKEY KONG MACHINE IN THE EARLY 80S, AND THEN YOU CAN FAST FORWARD INTO THE MID 90S.

THOSE CHILDREN ARE TEENS ARE GOING TO THE MALL ARCADE TO BEAT LOCALS AT STREET FIGHTER NOW THOSE CHILDREN ARE IN THEIR LATE 30S, IN THEIR EARLY 40S.

LIKE THIS GUY, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE MAGIC FEELING OF GOING TO A REAL ARCADE TWO DECADES AGO WHERE THEIR KIDS WHERE THEY WOULDN'T, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE AMAZING IF THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE A TIME MACHINE BACK AND HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE TOGETHER? AMERICA HAS A LOVE FOR OR A CONNECTION TO ARCADE GAMES.

THE ARCADE HAS BEEN WOVEN INTO OUR FABRIC OF OUR LIVES FOR FOUR DECADES NOW.

FROM SHOWBIZ PIZZA TO DAVE AND BUSTER'S, WE'VE ALL BEEN AT A KID'S BIRTHDAY OR AN AN ADULT KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AND IT'S WHO WE ARE, AND CERTAINLY WHO I

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THEY'RE LEAVING THIS CITY.

THEY'RE SENDING THEIR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF SOMEONE IS GETTING OFF WORK AND THEY WANT TO LEAVE THEIR DAY BEHIND WITH THEIR COWORKERS, AND THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES OF THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES WITH THEIR CHILDHOOD, THEY'RE STOPPING AT YOUR NEIGHBORING CITIES THE DAVE AND BUSTERS.

THAT'S OVER IN COLLEYVILLE, THE ELECTRIC STARSHIP ARCADE THAT'S IN HALTOM CITY, THE ALLEY CATS, THAT'S IN NORTH RICHLAND HILLS OR THE RICHLAND HILLS AREA, OR MAYBE THAT'S HIRSCH THERE.

THEY'RE NOT COMING HERE ME AND MY WIFE CYNTHIA, WE OPENED UP THE ELECTRIC STARSHIP ARCADE ON JUNE 20TH OF 2020, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A BLAST EVER SINCE. IT'S A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS.

MY TWIN GIRLS WORK THERE.

THEY'RE 23 YEARS OLD AND THEY MAN IT ALL THE TIME JUST BY THEMSELVES.

SO IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS OUR ARCADE WILL BE A PAY AT THE DOOR FORMAT WE CHARGE $12 AT THE DOOR, AND THE GAMES ARE UNLIMITED PLAY WE ALSO HAVE A $20 MONTH PASS.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME ALL MONTH LONG, THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY $20, AND IT'S PAID FOR THEMSELVES BY THE TIME THEY'VE COME THE SECOND TIME OUR ARCADE MACHINES ARE, LIKE I SAID, SET TO FREE. WE HAVE OVER 100 MACHINES IN ROTATION.

I WOULD BE ABLE TO ROTATE MACHINES, OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE ELECTRIC STARSHIP TO OUR ARCADE.

THAT WOULD BE IN YOUR CITY, THE TIME RIFT ARCADE LET'S SEE HERE.

SCROLL TO THE NEXT PAGE THAT WAY IF WE'RE ROTATING THOSE GAMES, IT ALWAYS KEEP IT FRESH, AND PEOPLE WILL THEY REALLY ENJOY WHEN I CHANGE STUFF UP ON THE FLOOR AND PUT NEW GAMES IN? WE HAVE CONCESSIONS.

A LOT LIKE A MOVIE THEATER WOULD HAVE, INCLUDING PIZZA, NACHOS, POPCORN.

MAKE COTTON CANDY AT 8 P.M.

EVERY DAY, WE'D BE ASKING EVERYONE THAT'S UNDER 21.

I USUALLY JUST DO IT ON THE MICROPHONE JUST THEY'RE GOING TO GO HOME TODAY FOR THE DAY, AND THAT'LL ALLOW ADULTS TO SOCIALIZE AND MINGLE AT NIGHT FROM 8 P.M.

ON. KEEPS ALL THE KIDS SAFE.

THEY'RE SAFELY OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AND HOME AND TUCKED IN.

SO OUR ADULT OFFERINGS WOULD BE A SELECTION OF JUST CRAFT AND LOCAL BEERS AND HARD CIDER.

WE'LL BE CLOSED ON MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS, OPEN ON WEDNESDAYS FROM DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, FROM 3:00 TO 11.

DURING THE SUMMER, WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENDED HOURS OPENING AT NOON.

WE DO THE SAME THING ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AGAIN, 3:00 TO MIDNIGHT.

SATURDAY WOULD BE FROM NOON TO MIDNIGHT, SUNDAY, NOON TO 10 P.M.

IN PREPARATION FOR THE SECOND LOCATION WE'VE BEEN BUYING AND RESTORING GAMES FOR, GOSH, THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

PLUS EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST SIX OR SO SO WE'VE JUST BEEN COUNTING DOWN TO OUR START DATE AND COMING AND JOINING THIS GREAT COMMUNITY AND THAT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY PRESENTATION.

SO NO MORE SLIDESHOW OR ANYTHING.

THANK YOU. SO SO FIRST, FIRST QUESTION, WHY BEDFORD? WELL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARCADES AND ENTERTAINMENT, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO INFRINGE.

WE LIKE TO BE NEIGHBORING TO OUR OTHER ARCADES THAT ARE AROUND THE METROPLEX.

WE DON'T WANT TO REALLY INFRINGE ON TERRITORY THERE.

IT'S VERY CLOSE TO ME.

SO I CAN ALWAYS JUST SLIP RIGHT OVER AND BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO ALSO, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ARCADE ENTERTAINMENT IN BEDFORD, SO THIS WOULD FILL A VOID THAT IS IN YOUR CITY RIGHT NOW AND YOUR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS, AND YOU SAID, HALTOM CITY, I AM IN HALTOM CITY, AND WHAT WAS THAT ONE CALLED AGAIN? ELECTRIC STARSHIP ARCADE.

WE'RE RIGHT BEHIND THE BRAUM'S ON 377.

I HAPPEN TO LOOK AT YOUR REVIEWS AND VERY POSITIVE REVIEWS OVERALL.

THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE, AND I CAN'T SAY THIS MUCH BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO BRAG, BUT THAT IS THE BEST REVIEWED ARCADE IN THE WHOLE DFW PERIOD.

I MEAN, IT HAD HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF REVIEWS AND IT WAS 4.9 STARS.

I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

SO VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE ONE THING ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ARCADES, WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN COINS.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YOUR BUSINESS MODEL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO THE REVENUE WOULD COME FROM THE $12 AT THE DOOR.

SO IMAGINE IF YOU WENT TO A LAUNDROMAT, THE CHANGE THAT YOU WOULD GET TO PLAY LIKE A GALAGA MACHINE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE TAX DOLLARS FROM THE $12 AT THE DOOR OR THE $20 IF THEY DO THE MONTH PASS.

CORRECT. SO YOU PAY. IT'S A ONE.

IT'S A ONE SET PRICE COMING IN AND PLAYS.

YOU GOT IT. YOU CAN STAY AS LONG.

I MEAN, IF THEY'RE UNDER 21, THEY CAN STILL 8 P.M.

IF THEY'RE OVER THEY CAN STAY UNTIL WE CLOSE THAT NIGHT, AND SO YOU'RE ALSO SELLING BEVERAGES FOOD AND SUCH CORRECT.

YEAH. PIZZA NACHOS, POPCORN, FRITO PIE, HOT DOGS, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SODAS, TEA, GATORADE, HARD CIDER, LOCAL CRAFT BEER, THAT SORT OF THING.

YEAH. YOU'RE ALREADY ALREADY LICENSED BY THE COUNTY FOR THAT, CORRECT? TABC AS WELL.

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[CHUCKLING] IT'S PRETTY GREAT.

TABC, THE COUNTY, HALTOM CITY, TEXAS, SO, YEAH, WELL, THAT IS HOW ALL OUR EVENTS ARE SUCCESSFUL HERE IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

[CHUCKLING] THAT'S RIGHT BUT NO, IN ALL HONESTY SO ALSO, DID YOU TALK ABOUT THE SERVING OF ALCOHOL? I THINK I REMEMBER FROM LISTENING TO THE LAST P&Z MEETING THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LIMIT.

LIMIT THE HOURS OF THAT, AM I CORRECT? WELL, NO, WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT ON THE HOURS, JUST TYPICALLY BECAUSE WE.

I'M SORRY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE AGE LIMIT OF YOU'RE DEFINITELY UNDER SERVE THEM UNDER 20.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS I THINK PERHAPS I MISHEARD, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS ANYBODY WHO IS UNDER THE AGE OF 21.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ON PREMISE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO AT 8 P.M.

AT NIGHT, WE DO GO TO 21 AND UP.

SO WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, WE WE CARD THEM AND WE GIVE THEM EITHER A BLUE WRISTBAND OR A PINK WRISTBAND.

SO THEY ARE DIFFERENTIATED PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT, AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTION, WE JUST CARD THEM AGAIN OF COURSE THEY LOOK LIKE ME I'M GOING TO TRUST THEM, AND THERE WON'T BE ANY HARD LIQUOR AT THIS.

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY, OKAY ONE.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR RIGHT NOW THANK YOU GUYS.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS? NO. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'LL WORK. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. STILL A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:22.

REAL QUICK. DO WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SET BY THE FIRE MARSHAL? I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S A FORMULA SET BY THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

OKAY, SO ONCE THEY CHECK EVERYTHING OUT AND.

RIGHT, THAT'LL BE ESTABLISHED DURING THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

OKAY. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION ALL RIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION HERE? I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A SECOND BY.

I SAW COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU STAFF CONGRATULATIONS.

WELCOME TO BEDFORD. THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. YOU ALL GOT TO COME BY AND SEE US.

ABSOLUTELY WE WILL.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT MOVING ON TO ITEM TEN BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY MADE AN ACTION ON ITEM NINE.

[10. Consider an ordinance amending the City of Bedford Code of Ordinances Appendix A – Schedule of Fees, by updating fees imposed by the City; containing a savings clause; repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith; and providing for an effective date.]

REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT WHEREIN AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT THE USUAL TIMING OF THE FEE ORDINANCE, BUT STAFF IS ATTEMPTING TO KIND OF SHIFT THAT.

SO WE ARE ASKING OUR STAFF TO REVIEW FEES IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW, INSTEAD OF IN THE BACK END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO YOU WILL START SEEING THE FEE ORDINANCE ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR MOVING FORWARD, AND SO WE HAVE DONE OUR USUAL ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES, BUT JUST TO REVIEW THE HIGHLIGHTS.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS REQUESTING TO ADD A TREE MITIGATION FEE THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PASSED PUBLIC WORKS, WE DID INCREASE THE DEPOSIT FOR FIRE HYDRANT METERS.

THAT IS DUE TO THE COST OF THOSE METERS.

SO TO MAKE SURE THAT SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THEM, THE DEPOSIT IS ENOUGH TO REPLACE IT, AND THEN WE JUST ADJUSTED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ON THE CONVENIENCE FEE FOR CREDIT CARDS DUE TO SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES WITH OUR PROCESSORS.

SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR FEE ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE IN ANIMAL CONTROL.

SOME OF THEM ARE SIMPLIFYING REDUCING FEES AND THEN CHANGING SOME OF THE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS IN REGARD TO WAIVERS.

WE'VE REMOVED THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S IN CONFLICT AND THEN CHANGE INCREASING SOME OF THE FEES FOR IMPOUNDMENTS FOR BOARDING THOSE TYPE OF FEES DUE TO THE COSTS THAT ANIMAL CONTROL IS FACING FOR THOSE SERVICES, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF EVERY OTHER FEE YOU WILL SEE IS AS IT WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED LAST MARCH, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

THANK YOU MEG. ALL RIGHT.

ANY? YES. COUNCILMEMBER STEVES?

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WHAT'S WITH THE ADOPTION FEE OR THE VACCINATION? THE WAIVER, GETTING RID OF THAT, I MEAN, OR PUTTING IMPOSING BACK THE FEE.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE WITH THE STATE? WHAT'S WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? THE STATE? MY UNDERSTANDING FROM ANIMAL CONTROL IS THAT WE ARE PER STATE LAW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PROVIDE A WAIVER FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT THE ANIMALS WILL HAVE RECEIVED THEIR VACCINATIONS AND OR HAD BEEN ALTERED BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN ADOPTED OUT THE WAIVER THAT WAS IN PLACE WAS ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE SERVICES AFTER THE ADOPTION HAD TAKEN PLACE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE DOING IT.

OKAY. SO DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON ADOPTIONS OR.

I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

YEAH THAT'S OKAY. CRAZY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MEG. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD QUESTIONS.

SEEMS OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE ARE MISSING A COUNCILMEMBER.

THIS IS FUN. I COULD READ THE FEE ORDINANCE TO TAKE UP SOME TIME.

ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO.

[CHUCKLING] SO LET'S GO THROUGH THE FREE ORDINANCE AND LET'S GO.

LET'S DO IT. OKAY. SO STARTING, GENERAL, NO CHANGES.

YOU ARE ENTITLED TO VOTE IF YOU'D LIKE.

I DO YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND SO YOU CAN CALL FOR THE VOTE.

OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION? FIRST TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

I HAVE A SECOND.

I SAW COUNCILMEMBER SABOL FIRST.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

THAT PASSES WITH FIVE AND ONE ABSENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL, STAFF.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11 CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AMENDMENTS TO THE ADOPTED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TEXAS, FOR FISCAL

[11. Consider an ordinance authorizing amendments to the adopted annual budget of the City of Bedford, Texas for the fiscal period of October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024; providing for intra-fund and/or intra-departmental transfers; providing for investment of idle funds; and declaring an effective date.]

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH BUDGET PROCESS, REALIZED WE HADN'T WORKED IN SOME OF THEIR REPLACEMENTS, AND THE ORDER WINDOW IS SUCH THAT IT WAS BETTER TO GET A BUDGET AMENDMENT SO THAT WE COULD PROCEED AND GET VEHICLES ON ORDER WITH ENTERPRISE, AND SO YOU WILL FIND STAFF IS REQUESTING $60,000 ADDED TO THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT IS FOR VEHICLE UP UPKEEP/UP-FIT.

EXCUSE ME FOR THE VEHICLES WE ARE REPLACING KAREN HAS CONFIRMED THE FUND BALANCE WILL STILL KEEP US ABOVE THAT 60.

THAT 20% THRESHOLD.

EXCUSE ME COMPUTER REPLACEMENT FUND IS A REQUEST FROM IT THEY NEED TO DO SOME MEMORY UPGRADES AND NEED STORAGE SPACE ON THE EXISTING SERVERS.

SO THE FUND BALANCE AND COMPUTER REPLACEMENT FUND IS SUFFICIENT.

THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THOSE FUNDS, AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND THE SIX VEHICLES WERE REPLACING.

SEVERAL OF THEM WERE ALREADY IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM AND THEREFORE WE DID HAVE BUDGET DOLLARS ALLOCATED FOR THEM.

THIS IS FOR THE REMAINING EXPECTED BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS THE BUDGET FOR THE FULL FISCAL YEAR WITH NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE SIX VEHICLES, BUT WE DO EXPECT AT LEAST 10,000 IN REVENUE ADDITIONALLY INTO THAT FUND FROM THE SALE OF THE VEHICLE THAT IS CITY OWNED THAT'S BEING REPLACED THAT AMOUNT COULD BE HIGHER, BUT WE WANTED TO STAY CONSERVATIVE, AND SO WITH THESE NUMBERS IN PLACE, WE WILL STILL HAVE FUND BALANCE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF SHORING UP SOME THINGS THAT WAS KNOWN AFTER WE HAD ADOPTED THE BUDGET.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEG AT THE MOMENT? OKAY. I HAVE JUST A GENERAL QUESTION.

I THINK THIS GOES TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T AMEND THE BUDGET TOO MUCH.

IS THERE IS IS THERE A CRITERIA OF HOW MANY TIMES YOU SHOULD BE AMENDING YOUR BUDGET YEARLY? NOT REALLY. I MEAN, IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT IN THE NEXT ITEM.

WE HAD MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT WERE TOTALED.

ONE OF THEM WAS IN A SHOOTOUT IN DALLAS THAT YOU ALL WERE TOLD ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE UNFORESEEN NOW, IF IF WE'RE DOING A LOT OF JUST FROM A, FROM A CITY MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, IF WE'RE DOING A LOT OF AMENDMENTS BASED ON LIKE PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES, AND THEN YOU START TO WONDER, OKAY, MAYBE STAFF ISN'T

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THEN THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION WAS GOING WITH THIS IS THAT WHEN WE SEE THESE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, WE NEED TO TAKE EXTRA SPECIAL CAUTION TO REALIZE WHAT WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT HERE, AND THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T PLAN FOR, AND SO WOULD THIS AS YOU MENTIONED, IF IT WASN'T FOR UNEXPECTED EXPENDITURES, WOULD IT NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR RATING, LIKE ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL RATING THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE? IT WOULD. NO, SIR. YEAH.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WELL, ALL THE TIME, IF WE EVER DIP INTO OUR RESERVES TO PAY.

YEAH, WE WOULD MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS ADHERE TO THE FINANCIAL POLICY.

SO WE WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND ANYTHING THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE ANYTHING, AND THAT WAS JUST A GENERALIZED KNOWLEDGE BASED QUESTION.

NOR NOR AM I THINKING WE'RE EVER GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE AT ALL.

OH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS IT SINCE YOU TEED IT UP.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SABOL.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. STAFF, MEG, GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU, AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

NOW THAT IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER A MASTER EQUITY LEASE AGREEMENT WITH ENTERPRISE FM TRUST, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT STATING

[12. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager or his designee to enter into a Master Equity Lease Agreement with Enterprise FM Trust, including an amendment stating this agreement is to be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the state of Texas, for a term of five years or 60 months per vehicle, in the amount of $384,857.40.]

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, THIS IS TANGENTIAL TO THE LAST ITEM, AND AGAIN, THE REASON IT'S COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL SEE IN THE BACKGROUND THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS LEASE THAT WERE WE DIDN'T PLAN ON REPLACING THEM.

NOW, IT WAS BECAUSE OF ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAD INSURANCE COVERAGE, BUT IT DIDN'T COVER EVERYTHING, AND SO I KNOW THE POLICE CHIEF IS OUT IN THE LOBBY AS WELL IF HE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT, BUT THIS IS MERELY TO AUGMENT THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS $76,791.48 ANNUALLY, AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT WILL BE $384,857.40.

CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD JUST HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE? SO I THINK WE HAVE THREE VEHICLES THAT THIS PAST YEAR HAVE BEEN STRUCK BY DRUNK DRIVERS AND HAVE BEEN TOTALED OUT.

SO IT SEEMS THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE TOTALING OUR VEHICLES RATHER THAN FIXING SOME OF THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REPLACEMENT COST IS.

I DON'T I'M NOT AN INSURANCE AGENT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO STAY OUT OF THAT, BUT OUR VEHICLE FLEET IS WE HAVE A PART OF IT STARTING TO AGE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS REALLY IS TO START REPLACING SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES.

SO WE ENSURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF VEHICLES OUT THERE LAST YEAR WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

SO THERE'S PRETTY THERE'S A LOT OF LIMITATIONS ON THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GETTING.

SO THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ORDERING THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO BE DODGE MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE VEHICLES THAT WE CAN GET.

WE'VE HISTORICALLY BOUGHT FOR UH, EXPLORERS AND TAHOES AND THOSE JUST FRANKLY ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

SO CHEVROLET THIS YEAR IS GOING TO MAKE ABOUT HALF THE NUMBER OF TAHOES FOR POLICE THAT THEY MADE LAST YEAR, AND FORD LAST YEAR CANCELED THE ORDERS ON ALL POLICE CARS, AND THIS YEAR THEY SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET.

GOOD LUCK. DODGE HAS HAS THEM OUT THERE IN ENTERPRISE CAN GET THOSE CARS FOR US PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO INSTEAD OF WAITING AROUND THESE THESE NEED TO BE DONE NOW.

YEAH, AND SO SO IS IT OUR ANTICIPATION THAT'S PROBABLY GOING FORWARD WHERE, WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS TO OUTFIT THE FLEET WITH THESE DODGE CHARGERS INSTEAD OF, WELL, THESE WILL BE DODGE DURANGOS. SO FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A VEHICLE THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN THE BACK.

SO THESE WILL BE DURANGOS BE ADEQUATE SIZE TO HOUSE OUR OFFICERS WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND, BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR OFFICE FOR 12 HOURS OF THEIR, OF THEIR DAY FOR THEIR SHIFT.

SO WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE. SO WE ALWAYS LOOK AT IF WE'RE NOT HAVING RELIABILITY OUT OF ONE VEHICLE, WE'LL MOVE OVER.

SO FRANKLY, THE TAHOES THAT THE NEWEST VERSION OF THE TAHOES WE HAVE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT REAL GREAT FOR POLICING SO WE'RE WAITING FOR CHEVROLET TO FIX THOSE ISSUES BEFORE WE WOULD EVEN LOOK AT GOING WITH THE TAHOE AGAIN.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM.

COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS.

THANKS, MR. MAYOR, AND CHIEF WILLIAMS, I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.

I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE TYPICALLY YOU WERE GETTING CHEVROLETS AND GOING TO DODGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL ANTICIPATE A DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF THE MANUFACTURE OF THE VEHICLE.

WE HAVE A GREAT SHOP HERE THAT DOES ALL THE MAINTENANCE ON OUR VEHICLES FOR US THAT THE CITY RUNS.

SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY BIG ISSUES TALKING TO OTHER POLICE CHIEFS OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE TO THESE DODGES, IF YOU GO DRIVE THROUGH THE MIDWEST, THESE THINGS ARE EVERYWHERE. SO THEY'VE BEEN DRIVING THEM FOR YEARS.

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ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES IS ORDERING DODGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY COULD GET.

SO I THINK WE'RE IN A PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TEST THEM.

IF IT WORKS OUT, GREAT.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, WE'RE NOT MAKING A HUGE I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT OUR FLEET IS QUITE A BIT LARGER THAN SIX VEHICLES.

SO IF IT'S NOT WORKING OUT FOR US, WE'LL CHANGE OUR DIRECTION AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER.

I THINK IT'LL GO TO BRANT AFTER THIS.

YOU SAID WE HAD SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT WERE DESTROYED BY DRUNK DRIVERS.

YES, SIR. DID WE NOT? DO WE SUE THEM? DO THEY NOT HAVE INSURANCE? WHAT'S THE PROCESS ON THAT? INSURANCE HAS PAID ON ALL THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN STRUCK.

SO THAT MONEY COMES BACK INTO THE TO ESSENTIALLY TO THE CITY FOR US TO REPLACE THEM, AND THAT'S WHAT PORTION OF THIS IS.

MEG MAY CORRECT ME, BUT THAT'S WHAT A PORTION OF THIS IS, IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE NEW VEHICLES ORDERED, BUT IT WASN'T TOTAL REPLACEMENT COST, THAT'S WHAT.

RIGHT. SO THEY DON'T MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE OR WE GET STUCK EATING THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT.

SORRY. YEAH I CAN GET YOU A BETTER ANSWER, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT SOME DEPRECIATION IS FACTORED IN.

PLUS THE COST OF THE AFTER MARKET.

ALL OF THE UP-FITTING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, IT EXCEEDS WHAT THE VALUE OF THE VEHICLE IS WITH ALL THE ADD-ONS, CHIEF OR MEG OR.

YEAH, JUST THE, THE AFTERMARKET UPGRADES.

SO WE PURCHASE A CAR.

IT'S ABOUT $20,000 WORTH OF GEAR THAT GOES IN THAT'S NOT INCLUDING CAMERAS AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING COMPUTERS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

SO THE PRISONER CAGES IN THE BACK, THE SEATS IN THE BACK THAT KEEP THE PRISONER SAFE, STORAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THE REAR OF THE LIGHTS, THE SIREN, ALL THOSE EXTRA THINGS ADD UP TO ABOUT $20,000 FOR THE EQUIPMENT, PLUS THE INSTALLATION FOR THOSE.

SO THERE IS SOME DEPRECIATION.

MEG CAN PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT IF WE'RE LOSING.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THE WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY ON THE SPEAKERPHONE, BUT WHEN WE RECEIVE THOSE PROCEEDS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DEPOSIT THEM INTO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.

SO WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE, AND OF COURSE, ONCE WE NO LONGER OWN THE VEHICLE AND CLOSE IT OUT WITH ENTERPRISE, WE'RE NOT PAYING LEASE PAYMENTS ON THEM.

SO THAT MONEY IS BEING RETAINED IN THE FUND AS WELL.

SO ALL OF THAT DOES GO INTO OFFSET.

YOU'RE APPROVING THE FULL LEASE COST.

THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT MONEY WE'RE SAVING.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A $78,000 A YEAR ANNUAL PAYMENT FOR THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS WORTH OF TIME THAT WE'D BE PAYING LEASE PAYMENTS.

THAT'S WHY YOUR BUDGET AMENDMENT WAS ONLY 21,000, AND SO THOSE BUDGET DOLLARS ARE STILL IN THE FUND.

WE'RE REPURPOSING THEM TO THESE REPLACEMENTS.

SO YOUR NET IMPACT IF YOU READ BACK INTO YOUR IS 21.6 FOR THIS YEAR, 32.4 IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE HAD BEEN PAYING ON THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN WRECKED THE ONES WE'RE TRADING IN, BUT ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES WAS A CITY OWNED VEHICLE.

SO WE HAVE NO LEASE PAYMENT.

THERE WAS NO BUDGET DOLLARS WITH THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE NEW BUDGET DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THOSE NUMBERS THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, AND MOVING FORWARD FOR THE FROM THE INSURANCE WE GOT FOR TWO OF THE VEHICLES, WE GOT $10,000, AND FOR THE THIRD VEHICLE WE GOT $24,000.

SO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MAYOR.

MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAD HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER STEVES.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

BEFORE I GET TO MY NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA I DO SEE, BECAUSE I DO SEE THAT MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU DID HAVE AN ITEM ON EXECUTIVE.

BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK, JUST SO I'M YEAH, CORRECT JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, BEFORE I DO THIS, I SAY THIS ONLY FOR THE FACT THAT I PUT THIS NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS APPOINTMENT FOR CITY COUNCIL PLACE TWO FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM BE DUE TO MR. [INAUDIBLE] NOT ACCEPTING THE APPOINTMENT FROM LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME, WE I LIKE TO HAVE THINGS TRANSPARENT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE IN THE OPEN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE DISCUSSING CERTAIN THINGS, AND SO MY FIRST QUESTION, BECAUSE WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE PREVIOUSLY ON THIS ITEM TO DISCUSS PROCESSES.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH OUR DECISION TO APPOINT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DECISIONS BEFORE US.

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OKAY. SO JUST FOR THAT, FOR FIRST ONE, ARE WE STILL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE WANT TO APPOINT? NO. SO YOU'RE WANTING TO SWITCH UP THE WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY? CORRECT. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROBABLY LEAVE THE SEAT OPEN AND WE SHOULD LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.

I THINK THAT THE DAY I WASN'T ELECTED TO APPOINT MY PEERS, RIGHT.

THAT'S THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE, AND BY THE TIME WE APPOINT SOMEBODY, IT I MEAN, THE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A FEW MONTHS, YOU KNOW? BUT THE FILING DATE IS GOING TO BE IN FEBRUARY IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY NOT IN AN IDEAL SITUATION ANYMORE, AND WITH WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE BUILDER APPOINTMENT HIM JUST NOT ACCEPTING THE APPOINTMENT.

WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION.

THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THEN I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE AN EXECUTIVE, UNLESS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IT AT THE DAIS.

SO DID YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? IT'S UP TO YOU, MAYOR. SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE.

THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR YOUR ITEM.

SO THERE'S TWO RIGHT? ONE IS I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CAN PERTAINING TO THE APPOINTMENT.

CORRECT TO THE APPOINTMENT.

RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO WITH THAT.

RIGHT, AND TWO I WOULD LIKE SOME FACTS ABOUT THE WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT APPOINTMENT.

SO WE CAN HAVE THAT HERE.

I BELIEVE IT MAY BE BEST THAT WE TALK IN EXECUTIVE FIRST.

OKAY, BUT WE CAN HAVE IT HERE IF YOU WANT TO.

I UNDERSTAND, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING, SO IT'S SORT OF BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT, WHAT I DON'T WHAT I DON'T WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS AND FORGIVE ME FOR BEING LONG WINDED, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS IS THAT WE WE GO IN THE BACK AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A NAME TO A POINT, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE MADE SOME KIND OF DEAL.

YOU UNDERSTAND? OKAY. NO, NO.

THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISCUSSING NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO WE WANT TO APPOINT AND IF WE WANT TO? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO BE FLAT OUT HONEST.

THAT'S NOT I MEAN, AND THAT'S FINE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS NAMES.

THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, WE CAN LITERALLY JUST DISCUSS HOW THE PREVIOUS APPOINTMENT HAPPENED AND WE CAN STILL AND THE THING IS, WE CAN STILL DO THAT AFTER THIS ITEM.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT YOU JUST POSED WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONTINUE ON OUR PATH TO APPOINTMENT.

RIGHT. SO, YEAH I HAVE TWO.

RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, I AM NO LONGER IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING FOR PLACE TWO.

RIGHT, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER JUST NOTED.

OKAY. NOTED. SECOND, I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY THE HAPPENINGS BEHIND THE PREVIOUS APPOINTMENTS, WHICH WE CAN STILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE.

CORRECT. OKAY.

SO, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST INTERVENE AND I'M.

YES, I MAY BE OFF BASE AS WELL.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS COUNCIL ACTION BEHIND THE APPOINTMENT, WE COULD DO THAT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PRIOR CANDIDATE.

JUST HIS DECISION AND I DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS HIM PERSONALLY.

THERE'S A SLIGHT THERE'S SOME SLIGHT MECHANICS IN THAT.

THEN THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. BECAUSE HE'S NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT A PUBLIC OFFICER.

OH, AND I AND I AND I AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HIM.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE NEXT ITEM, AND SO OKAY.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER 13, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPOINTMENT OF CITY COUNCIL PLACE TWO FOR UNEXPIRED TUM ENDING

[13. Consider a resolution authorizing the appointment of City Council Place 2 for an unexpired term ending at the next General Election. (Item requested by Mayor Cogan) (Part 1 of 2)]

HAS ANYBODY HAD DISCUSSIONS I CAN INTERJECT? YES, I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR.

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SO IF WE WANT TO GO, IF WE WANT TO TAKE A VOTE IMMEDIATELY, WE CAN, BUT WHATEVER THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IS.

SO IF THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IS TO ADJOURN INTO CLOSED SESSION FIRST, THEN I THINK THAT'S THE MOTION.

OKAY. SO IF IT IS COUNCIL, I'LL DO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND THEN COME BACK OUT HERE FOR ITEM 13.

I'M SEEING A NODDING OF YES YES YES YES YES.

QUESTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS MR. MAYOR GIVEN MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI HE'S CONCERN OF LIKE ONE OF THE CHANGE THE NATURE FROM APPOINTMENT TO OTHER ACTIONS, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR US TO HEAR THAT OUT BEFORE WE TAKE THE ACTION.

IT'S JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR A CONSENSUS GROUP TO DO THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND UH RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

551.072, 551.087 AND 551.074. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL BE BACK MOMENTARILY.

ALL RIGHT FROM RETURNING TO EXECUTIVE WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13 AFTER DISCUSSION JUST DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR

[13. Consider a resolution authorizing the appointment of City Council Place 2 for an unexpired term ending at the next General Election. (Item requested by Mayor Cogan) (Part 2 of 2)]

I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE OF MAKING SURE THAT SOMEBODY HAD BEEN PROPERLY VETTED.

ELECTIONS ARE VETTING PROCESSES.

SO GETTING SOMEONE TO FILL THAT ROLE WHO HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ELECTED, WHO SERVED ON THIS DAIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS SPOKEN TO ANYBODY THAT PREVIOUSLY.

GO AHEAD THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO NOMINATE I.

I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH RUTH CULVER, AND SHE'S WILLING TO RETURN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE THE PLACE, THE TERMS. I COULDN'T THINK OF THE WORD TERMS. SO SHE IS WILLING TO SERVE.

WILLING TO SERVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERMS. YEAH, AND THEN SHE HAS NO INTENTION OF RUNNING IN MAY.

OKAY, AND WITH NO INTENTION OF RUNNING THEREAFTER IN MAY.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR RUTH CULVER IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS SPOKEN TO ANYBODY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL THEIR NAME OUT FOR NOMINATION.

OKAY. WITH THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST HAVE ONE NAME FOR NOMINATION.

WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO NOMINATE RUTH TO TAKE PLACE.

THREE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PLACE TWO.

I'M PLACE THREE. PLACE TWO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM.

NO. ALL RIGHT, SO PLACE TWO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAWKINS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE IT TO BE KNOWN THAT MY VOTE DOES NOT REFLECT MY FEELINGS FOR MISS CULVER I RESPECT HER, AND I RESPECT HER TIME THAT SHE SPENT ON THE DAIS AND FOR THE MANY YEARS SHE SPENT ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO APPOINT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THAT PASSES WITH A 4 TO 2 MAJORITY.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS.

[14. Mayor/Council Member Reports]

COUNCILMEMBER GAGLIARDI.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO I GOT TO WE GOT TO OUR INAUGURAL SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.

THAT TO THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF COUNCILMAN DAWKINS AND COUNCILMAN STEVES HAS GOT UP OFF THE GROUND AND RUNNING.

IT'S WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP.

WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP.

THE MEETING WAS ONLY TWO HOURS, WHICH WAS THE FIRST MEETING.

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SO IT WASN'T BAD WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW FROM 1:30 TO 2:30, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE FUTURE LOCATION OF THE SENIOR CENTER, WHICH IS OFF OF CUMMINGS AND CENTRAL.

I WON'T SAY WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT WAS 3525, IS THAT WHAT THE ADDRESS IS? OKAY. SO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO REDO THIS OLD FACILITY AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK SUPER FANTASTIC, AND IT'S SORT OF IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME FLOOR PLANS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

SO EVERYONE CAN COME AND SEE.

SO I URGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND SEE THE FUTURE OF THIS NEW FACILITY AGAIN.

VERY EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND VERY EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE.

OKAY REAL QUICK.

SO HAVE YOU GUYS DECIDED ON WHEN YOU'RE MEETING, YOUR MEETING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR.

SO I'M GONNA TAKE IT AS A NO.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SEVERAL THINGS.

OKAY? AND AND ONE OF THAT IS HAVING A SET AND HAVING A SET.

WELL, AND WE'RE WORKING ON OUR MISSION STATEMENTS.

IT'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL. VERY GOOD, AND AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT SOME GOOD MEETING TIMES THAT WORKS WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WORK.

CORRECT, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM, AND I THINK I REMEMBER WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CONCEPT THIS BOARD, WE WANTED IT TO NOT JUST OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD.

SO OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOULD HAVE SENIORS ON IT, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO LIMIT IT TO THAT SO THAT PEOPLE COULD WORK SO HAVING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY MIGHT NOT BE CONDUCIVE TO THAT. CORRECT? OKAY.

SO SO YEAH, WE ARE WE ARE.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH ALL THE, ALL THE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF, AND WE'LL GET A TIME THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

PERFECT. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU MAYOR.

[15. City Manager/Staff Reports]

UNLESS I GET DIRECTION OTHERWISE TO WHERE YOU ALL CAN NARROW IT DOWN AND SEE WHAT AREAS YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.

I ALSO KNOW I LIKE THAT IDEA.

SO SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENDING THAT OUT TO US QUESTIONNAIRE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEE WHAT WE WANT.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK, AND WILL THAT BE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'D LIKE.

LET ME LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE.

BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

IT'S REALLY CONTINGENT UPON HOW MUCH I GET FROM YOU ALL, QUITE FRANKLY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, AND THEN IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE THE INAUGURAL MEETING, I GUESS LIKE OF THIS EXERCISE MID TO LATE JANUARY, AND AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL, BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD.

THAT WAY WE CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND THOSE GOALS WILL BE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE JANUARY, WE CAN ALSO WORK IN SOME ANNUAL GOALS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND THEN WHAT WE'LL ALSO DO IS WE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON ALL THE PRIOR SPS ITEMS, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW KIND OF WHAT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT IF THERE'S NO OTHER REPORTS I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD.

YEAH I WILL. YEAH. SO THERE WAS NO OTHER ACTION TO BE TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY, PERFECT WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

I HAVE A FIRST BY MAYOR PRO TEM GAGLIARDI.

I WOULD LOVE TO MOTION TO ADJOURN, AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER FARCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CLOSE THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.