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PLEASE ALL STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.
WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING AND ALL IN ATTENDANCE.
WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE GUIDANCE THAT WE MAY BE WISE AND HUMBLE IN OUR DELIBERATIONS.
ALLEGIANCE] . THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
LOOK AT ALL THESE SMILEY FACES OUT THERE TONIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING.
SOMEBODY IS TELLING ME THEY'RE GOING TO BE LATE.
I APOLOGIZE. HE'S EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.
THAT'S A REMINDER. EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
HEADED ON MY NOTES TO THINK SINCE WE HAVE A SO MANY VISITORS.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
WE WILL WORK ALONG TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU FOLKS SHORTLY.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
FIRST ITEM IS PLEASE COMMISSIONERS.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR MEETING OF JULY 27TH.
ANY CORRECTIONS, ERRORS OR OMISSIONS? OH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HANDS.
THEY UNANIMOUSLY PASSES APPROVES THE MINUTES OF JULY 27TH.
ABSTAINED. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HENDERSON, OR I'M TO BE CONSIDERED.
[2. Consider action on a replat of Lots 1R1, 2R, 3R and 4R, Block 3 Rustic Woods, Phase V Addition, consisting of 4 lots being 0.722 of an acre being a replat of Rustic Woods, Phase V Addition, Lot 1R, Block 3 within the City of Bedford, Tarrant County, Texas. The property is generally located approximately 700 feet north of Harwood Road, westside of N. Industrial Boulevard, commonly known as 1229 N. Industrial Boulevard. (PLAT-23-5)]
IS ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA.THIS WOULD CONSIDER ACTION ON A REPLAT OF LOTS ONE OR 1 OR 2 OR 3 OR 4.
BLOCK THREE REST OF GOODS PHASE WEST OF WOODS.
PHASE FIVE ADDITION CENTRALLY LOCATED AT 1229 NORTH INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD.
THIS IS A CASE PLAT 23-5 STAFF JOSE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS HERE.
I'M JOSE, SCIENCE PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD HERE.
AND AS YOU INDICATED, THIS ITEM IS FOR A REPLAT, FOR A FOUR LOT SUBDIVISION.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS.
THE ZONING IN 1994, THE ZONING WAS CHANGED FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO MD THREE PRIOR TO THE ZONING CHANGE, THIS PROPERTY CONSISTED OF FOUR DIFFERENT LOTS AND FOUR BLOCKS AND HAD TWO MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENTS.
AND THEN IN JANUARY OF 2018, REPLAT WAS FILED AND THAT MERGED THESE FOUR LOTS AND MERGED THEM ALL INTO ONE LOT AND ONE BLOCK AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
AND HERE IS THE PLOT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US HERE.
YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY BEFORE YOU AS WELL.
THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THE FOUR INDIVIDUAL LOTS WITH A ONE ACCESS OFF OF INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, DARROW WITH THE RADIUS, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A SMALL LITTLE COURT. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY HERE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AS IT IS.
IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT WITH SEVERAL TREES IN THE AREA.
IT'S SLIGHTLY ELEVATED AS WELL FROM THE ROAD.
AND THERE IS ONE ACCESS DRIVE RIGHT THERE, AS YOU SEE THERE IN ONE OF THE PHOTOS.
SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS.
WE HAD INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS AMONG STAFF AND WE ALL PROVIDED COMMENTS FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
SO BASED ON THE REVIEWS OF THIS REPLAT, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, SECTION 5.3, THAT THIS REPLAT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LENGTH AND DEPTH REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO PROCEED FORWARD TO BE SUBDIVIDED BECAUSE IT IS IT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
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STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS REPLAT.SO THIS REPORT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU ALL TO HAVE AN ACTION TO EITHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS CASE OR IT COULD BE TABLED.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I WAS NOT INFORMED AS WELL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. PRETTY GOOD.
ANY. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, COMMISSIONERS? ON THIS ITEM. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
LOT 1R 2R 3R 4R BLOCK THREE OF THE RUSTIC WOODS PHASE FIVE EDITION.
OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER HENDERSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL IS UNANIMOUS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
[3. Conduct a public hearing and consider making recommendation on a change of zone from R-7,500 (Single-Family Residential Detached District) to MD-4 (Medium-Density Single-Family Attached District) for a proposed 30 Residential Townhomes Lots and 5 Open Space Lots subdivision in Tracts 3 and 3D2, Abstract 12 of the Allen, W.R. Survey. The 2.852 acres site is located approximately 350 feet southwest of Forest Ridge Drive and northside of Bedford Road and commonly known as 1525 Bedford Road. (PUD-23-3)]
ITEM NUMBER TWO.WE ARE TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON A CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R 7500 TO MD-4 FOR PROPOSAL 30 RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME LOTS AND FIVE OPEN SPACE LOT SUBDIVISION AND TRACKS THREE AND THREE D TO ABSTRACT 12 OF THE SURVEY.
THIS IS. BETTER KNOWN AS 1525 BEDFORD ROAD CASE PUD 23 THREE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSION MEMBERS.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY.
BACK IN THE 70S, IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AS A CHURCH RELIGIOUS FACILITY SITE IN 2020, CLUBHOUSE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS OBTAINED A ZONING APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL FOR A NEW OFFICE AND COMMUNITY CENTER.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE ZONING REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FROM OUR 75, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED MINIMUM LOT SIZE 7500 TO MD FOUR, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TALKING TOWNHOMES.
A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON MEDIUM DENSITY.
SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS ISN'T ONE THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF.
SO I WANT TO KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON IT.
IT IS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS DEFINED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S NOT A PD, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS SOME SIMILARITIES, AND WE'LL GET INTO THOSE IN JUST A SECOND.
IT IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF TOWNHOME OR DUPLEX STYLE.
AND I JUST HIT SOMETHING HERE.
THERE WE GO. HEY, LAND USE IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
UNIQUELY, IT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN TO BE APPROVED WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT THERE'S ALSO A CONCEPT, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND SO IF THAT IS APPROVED, THAT WILL BE TIED TO THE APPROVAL ORDINANCE FOUR, WHICH MEANS WHEN THE PLAT COMES IN, THE PLAT HAS TO MIMIC THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE APPROVED WITH THE ZONING.
AND IT ALSO AND THIS IS WHERE IT MIMICS THE ZONING A LITTLE BIT, IT ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE ALTERNATIVES TO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE ADOPTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE THAT ON 1 OR 2 OCCASIONS AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.
THIS IS THE ZONING EXHIBIT, THE SITE PLAN CONCEPT PLAN, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED AND IS SUBMITTED WITH THEIR ZONING REQUEST. AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE TIED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
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REQUIREMENTS ARE SET OUT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THEN WHAT THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVES ARE THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.YOU CAN SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR 75 AND MD FOUR IS THE LOT SIZE.
THAT'S 7500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AS OPPOSED TO 2200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
AGAIN, THAT'S 2200 SQUARE FOOT LOT FOR THE TOWNHOME ITSELF.
FRONT YARD SETBACK IS RELATIVELY SAME.
MD4 DOES ALLOW 15FT FRONT YARD.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP IT AT 20FT.
SIDE YARD SETBACK IS FIVE FEET.
MD4 ALLOWS TO GO UP TO TEN FEET.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP IT AT 15FT.
LOT COVERAGE IS ONE OF THOSE BIG DIFFERENCES HERE AND IT'S ALWAYS A.
THE MD FOUR REQUIREMENTS ALLOW A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 80%.
THE GOAL THERE IS TO HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREAS TO TO GET THAT 60%.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 54% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR THE LOTS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT.
BUILDING HEIGHT STAYS RELATIVELY THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD, 35FT OR TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
MINIMUM FLOOR AREA OF THE STRUCTURE BEING BUILT ON THE LOT.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IN OUR 75, THAT WAS 1350.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IN FOUR WITH ALTERNATIVES OF 1400 AND THEN PARKING.
FEW MORE TOPICS ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.
WE JUST TOUCHED ON PARKING OVERALL PARKING PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT 69 SPACES.
THAT'S ONE MORE THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED.
LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE AT 23% OPEN SPACE.
THAT'S 3% OVER WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN OR REPLACE ANY FENCING BETWEEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, WEST AND EAST THAT'S COMMONLY KNOWN AS MORAL GREEN.
AND THEN THEY'LL PROPOSE A MASONRY WALL ALONG BEDFORD ROAD.
IT'S NOT REQUIRED AT THE ZONING STAGE, BUT WE ALWAYS ASK FOR A TREE SURVEY.
SO THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDED THIS AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE IS WHEN WE'LL REALLY GET INTO HOW MANY CALIPER INCHES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE MITIGATED. SO I CAN'T ANSWER THOSE DETAILED QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT WHAT I CAN DO AND WHAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED IS AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
I'LL JUMP BACK TO THIS SITE PLAN REAL QUICK SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE PROPOSING A PRIVATE 24 FOOT WIDE ACCESS UTILITY AND FIRE LANE THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO SERVE AS ACCESS TO THE SITE.
AND DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE'LL GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WATER, SEWER AND STORMWATER.
THAT'S WHY THEY PROVIDE THE DETENTION POND.
OKAY, SO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS FOR THIS PROPERTY AND HOW THIS REQUEST COMPLIES WITH THE OR MEETS THE GOALS OR DOESN'T MEET THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES, SEMI PUBLIC FUTURE LAND USE.
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YOUR HIGH DENSITY LAND USE.ALSO, WE LOOK AT THE KIND OF THE DENSITY OF WHAT EVERYTHING ELSE IS BUILT AROUND IT.
TO THE NORTH, IT'S BUILT AT 12 UNITS AN ACRE.
AGAIN, THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY MORO GREEN.
AND SO GIVEN THAT THIS APPLICANT IS COMING IN WITH 10.5 UNITS AN ACRE.
STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ALSO, THE CONFERENCE PLAN ENCOURAGES THAT A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES AND TO USE THE MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING TO SERVE AS A BUFFER ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WHICH BEDFORD ROAD IS CONSIDERED. UM, ONE THING THAT THE CONFERENCE PLAN ALSO SAYS IS THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENTS COME IN THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A SITE PLAN OR SOME TYPE OF CONCEPT PLAN, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE IT KEEPS WITH THE GOALS AND THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF HOW THEY'VE LAID OUT THEIR LOTS, HOW THEY'VE LAID OUT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERALL DESIGN OF THE SITE, AND MAKE SURE THAT'S TAKING CONSIDERATION.
THE SPECIAL FEATURES OF THAT LOT, FOR INSTANCE, TREES COULD BE EXAMPLE OF THAT.
SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND LOOKING AROUND THE SURROUNDING ZONING.
I KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS ALREADY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST.
SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY IS A MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY.
WE ALSO PUT A NOTICE IN THE PAPER FOR THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
AND I WILL END WITH SAYING TONIGHT WE'RE CONDUCTING OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU, WES. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES, SIR. OKAY.
THAT TAKES CARE OF MY SECOND QUESTION.
WES WILL RETAIN YOU FOR LATER.
MY NAME IS USMAN WITH A&A CONSULTANTS.
5000 THOMPSON TERRACE, COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS 76034.
AS WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, WE CAME FIRST WITH PUD AND THE STAFF TOLD US THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER TO GO FOR, WHICH HAD 37 LOTS IN THIS AREA.
AND WE WENT TO MD FOUR, WHICH REDUCED THE NUMBER TO 30.
WE THINK THAT THE WHATEVER WE'RE PROPOSING HERE WILL FIT BETTER WITH THE SURROUNDING.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT. TAKE YOUR TIME.
IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, ATTACHED, SORRY, ATTACHED UNIT.
AND I SAW ONE OF THE OPPOSITION IS ASKING THAT BEDFORD DOES NOT NEED MORE RENTAL PROPERTY.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE RENTED.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO PLATTED A SINGLE LOT FOR EACH UNIT THAT WILL BE EACH BLOCK WILL BE BUILT TOGETHER, BUT IT WILL BE SOLD AS INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
AT LEAST I DID TWO FOR THEM IN NORTH RICHLAND HILLS.
I DID ONE IN KELLER AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL IN NORTH FORT WORTH.
SO THEY ARE REPUTABLE DEVELOPER AND THEY ALSO BUILD MILLION DOLLAR HOMES IN THE AREA AS THEIR BUILDER AND DEVELOPER. AT THE SAME TIME, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE.
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AND THEN MANY OF YOUR OTHER MORE RECENT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.SO A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE IT ALONG THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.
TWO THINGS. THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE TREES.
CORRECT? SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TO SOME EXTENT.
AND. WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT ROGER.
COMMISSIONER ROGER, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DETENTION POND.
BUT I HAVE A THOUGHT THAT ALONG THE LINES OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IN NOW IN HERE IN BEDFORD TO ALLOW QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE JUST FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE JUST DID A TREE ORDINANCE.
THIS COMMISSION JUST PROPOSED AND WORKED FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ON A NEW TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT APPLIES TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE PICTURE THAT'S ON THE PAGE THERE.
I COULD SEE WHERE IN THE DIFFERENCE.
OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGES PRETTY TIGHT AGAINST THE REGULATIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME CONSIDERATION OF UNITS ONE, TWO AND THREE.
I REALIZE THIS IS AN ECONOMIC THING AS A DEVELOPER, BUT IF THOSE THREE UNITS WERE NOT THERE AND THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT INVOLVES A LOT OF TREES COULD BE A GREEN SPACE IN ESSENCE, BE A COURTYARD TO THE TOWNHOMES THAT WOULD ALL FACE IT AND MAYBE EVEN ADD SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR VISITORS AND GUESTS.
AND IN LOOKING AT THIS DESIGN THAT IF THOSE THREE UNITS ONE, TWO AND THREE WERE NOT THERE AND THOSE TREES REMAINED AS A GREEN SPACE, THAT SEEMS THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR UPGRADE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND.
SATISFY SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH TREES AND HOW IT LOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST IS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO TELL US RIGHT THIS SECOND.
BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT I KNOW.
SURE. I COULD SEE WHERE COLLECTIVELY THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST AND OLDEST TREES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF THE THING.
BUT WE'RE ALL PRETTY IN TUNE TO THE TREE ISSUE, SO THAT'S A SOLUTION TO THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DETENTION POND? YEAH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
A LOT OF YOU ARE FROM MORROW. GREEN MAYBE.
SHE WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH ME THAT MORROW GREEN AS A WHOLE.
I SAW A LOT OF STRINGERS THAT ARE THAT ARE SUNKEN.
I SAW FENCES THAT ARE LEANING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REPLACED.
IT HAS IT'S DUG OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SO FOR ME, I WOULD HAVE LEFT HIM.
BUT HE AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, HE KNEW THAT DIGGING AROUND THESE TREES IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE.
THAT'S WHY HE SHOWED THEM THAT TO BE REMOVED.
LET ME ASK TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT.
IS THIS AND AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AND LIKE I SAID, CAN'T PUT A TRANSOM ON THIS.
IS THIS THE ONLY PLACE THE DETENTION POND IS FEASIBLE? YES. OKAY. NOW, TALKING ABOUT YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WHY HE WOULD RECOMMEND THE TYPE OF PINE THAT HE DOES.
MOST LANDSCAPERS HAVEN'T PLANTED THAT IN 20 YEARS.
AND I'LL TELL YOU AN ACTUAL STORY THERE, ALSO KNOWN AS AFGHAN PINES AND THE TRADE.
WE HAD THOSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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HE'S BEEN IN THE LANDSCAPE BUSINESS FOR 50 YEARS, AND THE ARTICLE IS ENTITLED MY SIX BIGGEST MISTAKES, AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDING THOSE PINES.SO IN NO WAY COULD I SUPPORT THIS WITH USING ELDERCARE, PINES OR AFGHAN PINES.
I REALIZE WE'RE IN A DROUGHT NOW, BUT NORMAL RAINFALL HERE IS 30 TO 33IN, I BELIEVE, FOR I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, SO I'M NOT A TREE EXPERT. BUT IF THE STAFF WHEN WE COME FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT PORTION, THE ASK THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO CHANGE IT TO WHATEVER TYPE THAT THE CITY SEES FIT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
I JUST QUESTIONED THAT HE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.
AND THERE ARE SINGLE CAR GARAGES.
ARE THOSE SINGLE CAR DRIVEWAYS? ACTUALLY, AFTER WE WENT FROM.
THE PUD TO MD FOUR, THESE ARE DOUBLE CAR GARAGES.
BUT THE NEW ONE, YEAH, THE NEW ONE IS 29FT.
SO EACH UNIT IS 29 AND SOME CHANGE, I BELIEVE.
SO THERE IS A 24 CAR GARAGE FOR DOUBLE CARS AND YOU CAN EVEN JUST EYEBALL IT FOR THIS THING.
ARE WE TALKING TANDEM? I'M TALKING. NO.
SO THERE IS TWO CARS COULD FIT TWO CARS INTO THAT GARAGE.
YES, SIR. IT'S A 24 CAR GARAGE BECAUSE EACH UNIT IS A 29 FOOT WIDE.
OKAY. AND SO THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY ALSO IS FOR IT'S ABOUT 18 OR 16.
OKAY. SO YOU COULD FIT TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE.
I CAN FIT TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND TWO CARS OUTSIDE.
ROGER, IF I CAN INTERRUPT JUST A SECOND.
COMMISSIONERS, THE CONCEPT OF ELEVATION ITEM THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, THIS WAS AN OLD, ORIGINAL ONE.
IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE DOUBLE CAR.
THIS IS ONLY SHOWING NINE BY 20FT DEEP.
OKAY? AND IT'S GOING TO BE 18 BY 20 FOOT DEEP.
SO THAT IS OUR SITE AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING BY.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO PUT A 20 FOOT.
AND I REALIZED THAT YOU FIT WITHIN THE DENSITY ORDINANCE IN BEDFORD.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF LARGE OAK TREES, BOTH POST OAK AND BLACKJACK OAK ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT IDEA OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN OF LOSING OUT ON THAT CENTERPIECE, IN OTHER WORDS, ONE, TWO AND THREE, I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
THAT'S AND I CAN'T DETERMINE THAT.
I'M NOT A DEVELOPER WHO CAN MAKE THIS DECISION.
OKAY? BUT I CAN TAKE IT TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE ALSO OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
OKAY. THEY'RE COMING BACK SUNDAY.
SO, BUT IF THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMISSIONERS WISH THAT THEY WILL MAKE IT GO THROUGH, I DEFINITELY CAN TAKE THAT TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO.
I LIKE TREES AND ESPECIALLY MATURE TREES.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY SET THROUGH CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL, BUT IN REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN, IT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDED THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CITY CHARTER THAT IT HAS TO BE FOR AN MD FOUR HAS TO BE PROVIDED.
WE DO GET TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN BEFORE WE DECIDE ON THE ZONING CHANGE.
SURE. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IN REVIEWING THIS PLAN, COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS WHERE THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE INITIAL SITE PLAN, AND I WILL TAKE THAT TO THEM.
AND I THINK TAKING THIS THREE LOTS PROBABLY WILL SAVE A LOT OF THESE VICTORIES IN THE MIDDLE.
WHAT IS THE CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR PROPOSED DEMOGRAPHIC IS? WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE, WHAT TYPE OF OF COMMUNITY ARE YOU ENVISIONING HERE?
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AND I'M ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY BEDROOMS AND BATHS ARE ON THE UPSTAIRS.I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE INFORMATION.
AND WHAT IS THE PROPOSED PRICE POINT? I KNOW WE'RE I'M GOING BEYOND A REZONING QUESTION, BUT IF YOU HAVE AT LEAST PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY ANSWERS TO THOSE, I WOULD I THINK IT WOULD HELP US FROM WHAT I GOT FROM THE DEVELOPER, HE IS LOOKING FOR 1600 SQUARE FOOT UNIT, EACH ONE OF THEM.
NORMALLY IT WILL BE PROBABLY IN THE.
375 TO 400,000 PRICE RANGE PER UNIT.
SO IT'S 1600 SQUARE FOOT LIVING SPACES WITH A TWO CAR GARAGE AND SEPARATE UNITS WITH SEPARATE LOTS. AND THAT'S THE PRICE.
AND MAYBE HAVE BETH DOWNSTAIRS FOR THE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? SINCE THE COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN GARAGE HAS CHANGED, HAS THE ELEVATION CHANGED FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? BECAUSE IT. IT'S A LITTLE.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A GOOD WORD.
WE'RE HERE FOR A ZONING CASE, BUT I'M TRYING TO BE FAIR, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE IMPROVED.
WHAT? THAT'S WHY IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST SUBMITTAL WE SUBMITTED WHEN IT WAS A PUD, WHERE NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO TIE IT DOWN TO THE T BECAUSE IT'S A PUD. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD THIS EXHIBIT THAT YOU HAD IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE PAGE ITSELF AS PART OF THE ZONING CHANGE SINCE WE WENT TO A REZONING, A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.
BUT WHAT WE SUBMITTED IN THE EXHIBIT IS JUST SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO 29.5FT UNITS AND SOME OF THEM ARE BIGGER THAN THAT.
AND I WOULD THINK ALL THE PEOPLE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS FROM NOW WANT THESE TO REALLY LOOK NICE AND NOT TO LOOK LIKE THEY DEGRADED.
AS FAR AS THE LOOK NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK.
APPEARS YOU'RE MISSING THE DEVELOPER AND IT APPEARS YOU'RE ALSO MISSING THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN MY MIND, THEY'RE KEY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
AND ON ON WITH THAT AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THOSE TYPES OF DETAILS WILL COME ALONG AFTER THE INITIAL PLAT AND DURING THE FORMAL PLAT, THE FINAL PLAT ITEM AND ARE ADDRESSED BY STAFF AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF OTHER PLACES.
BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME FEEDBACK, BUT THAT WILL COME ALONG AS A BUT TONIGHT WE ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN PLAN, RIGHT? AND I ASSUME THE STAFF WILL HAVE SOME COMMENT ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN LATER ON LIKE WE HAD SOME WHEN WE DID THE DRAINAGE PLAN BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE DETENTION.
WE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERN.
AND SO THAT WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN THE REST OF IT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, I EXPECT THE CITY STAFF WILL HAVE MORE INPUT INTO WHAT KIND OF TREES, WHAT TYPE OF TREES AND ALL THIS STUFF. AND ALSO WE PLAN TO FOLLOW THE CITY ORDINANCE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NICE.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING UNIQUE IN THIS AREA AND WE THINK THAT COMPLEMENT THE SURROUNDING.
IT DOES NOT DEGRADE IT BY ANY MEANS.
IF ANYTHING, IT SHOULD IMPROVE THE VALUE OF THE AREA AROUND IT.
WES ANYTHING TO ADD? QUESTION YES, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
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THE ZONING ONLY REQUIRES THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THE CONCEPT PLAN.SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS, FLOOR PLANS, WHATNOT.
ALL FAIR QUESTIONS TO ASK AND YOU CAN ASK THEM ALL DAY LONG.
SO JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT YOU'VE GOT ABOVE TONIGHT AND THOSE KIND OF DETAILS AS THE APPLICANT STATED, AND I THINK THE CHAIRMAN DID AS WELL AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING BUILDING PERMIT PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS WHEN WE LOOK AT ELEVATIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING.
YEAH. THANK YOU. WES COMMISSIONER JACOBSEN.
OH, AND TO CLARIFY THE POINT THAT OUR CHAIRMAN MADE OR TO ENHANCE IT, DESPITE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I APOLOGIZE JUST FOR BACKGROUND FOR EVERYBODY.
THIS COMMISSION JUST COMPLETED THE TREE ORDINANCE.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL, TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.
AND I FULLY I WAS LOOKING AT THE SAME ISSUE THAT CHAIRMAN EMERY WAS REFERRING TO, THAT IF SOME NUMBER OF THOSE FRONT LOTS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE AT LEAST THE TREES THAT.
IMMUNITY WILL SEE IF THAT COULD BE MORE GREEN SPACE.
SO I WOULD SECOND CHAIRMAN EMBRY'S SUGGESTION.
YEAH. ACTUALLY, THIS QUESTION'S FOR WES.
IF WE WERE TO SAY, MOVE THIS TO MD 4, IS THERE AN ALLOWANCE? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF CONCERNS ARE AROUND INCREASING NUMBER OF RENTERS IN BEDFORD TO MAKE LIKE A HOMESTEAD REQUIREMENT WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THERE IS NOT AN ALLOWANCE FOR A RENTAL PROPERTY.
GO AHEAD. MD4 REQUIRES INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP OF THE PARTICULAR LOTS.
WELL, IT REQUIRES INDIVIDUAL PLATTED.
LOTS THAT THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
I'M SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION TO REQUIRE THEM TO BE HOMESTEAD EXEMPT THROUGH ZONING.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.
I'D HAVE TO PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE.
WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. AS I'M SAYING THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND JUST SHOOT OFF THE CUFF.
I NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT ONE.
YOU MENTIONED PROPERTY OWNERS, ASSOCIATION OR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? CAN I ASK THE WORD? IS THAT MANDATORY? YES, IT WOULD BE MANDATORY BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH GREEN SPACE THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE FRONT AND BACK YARD MAINTENANCE OR JUST THE COMMON AREA? IT WOULD BE THE COMMON AREA AND THE DETENTION POND AREA.
YEAH, BUT EVERYBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF HIS OWN LOT.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS? ANYBODY ELSE? ARE WE GOOD? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STAYING UNTIL WE'RE ALL DONE, AND YOU CAN REST AND FINISH YOUR JET LAG.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR ME.
NO. SO, AS OUR ACTION ITEM, PART OF OUR ACTION ITEM TONIGHT IS TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF RECAP SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A ZONING CHANGE TO MD FOUR FROM OUR 7500.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A DESIGN PLAN FOR THIS EVENING WITHIN MD FOR EACH OF THE LOTS WITHIN THIS DESIGN PLAT WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED.
THERE WILL BE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT TO SAY THEY'RE DEED RESTRICTED.
NO, THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT THERE.
WHICH IS THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST ABOUT WHEN THERE'S A DETENTION OR A DRAINAGE AREA THAT WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE DEVELOPER.
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THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO INDICATE HERE, JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE IN THE MD FOUR AND IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAT, THE DENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS 10.4 UNITS PER ACRE, AS OUR DEVELOPER MENTIONED, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT MYRTLE GREEN IS A IS A CLOSE NEIGHBOR, THE DENSITY IN MORAL GREEN IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE.SO MORAL GREEN IS MUCH MORE DENSE THAN IS THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
TO JUST TO RUN OUT OF MORAL GREEN IS VERY MUCH UNITS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
MUCH AS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO.
SO THIS IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THIS IS NOT DESIGNED AS A RENTAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
MD4 DOESN'T SUPPORT AN APARTMENT.
IF THIS WERE TO CHANGE IN ZONING, MD4 IS NOT AS DENSE AND MULTIFAMILY AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT INCLUDE MORE GREEN AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
THOSE ARE ALL MULTIFAMILY, WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AND COULD INCLUDE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
SO THIS IS A MORE RESTRICTIVE MD4 IS A MORE RESTRICTIVE LEVEL OF ZONING THAN THE CONTIGUOUS ZONED AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED. SO WITH THAT.
6:42. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO TO THE AUDIENCE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADMINISTER WHO SPEAKS? WHEN DO YOU HAVE A SPOKESPERSON? DO THE PEOPLE THAT SUBMITTED LETTERS TO THE COMMISSION WANT TO SPEAK FIRST? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? WELL, KNOW OWNER WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WILL BE HELPFUL HERE.
BACK THERE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE SPECIAL NEEDS.
YES, WE RECOGNIZE YOU FROM PREVIOUS VISITS, BUT THANK YOU.
PLEASE. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO THROW IT OUT LIKE THAT SO WE COULD.
MY NAME IS KENT HOPKINS AND I'M THE WITH THE CLUBHOUSE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.
I'M ALSO A PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT AND ENROLLED AGENT.
I HAVE AN ACCOUNTING PRACTICE, BUT I'VE BEEN WITH THE CLUBHOUSE ESPECIALLY SINCE I WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS DARLENE AND I FOUNDED AT 17 YEARS AGO OVER HERE ON BROWN TRAIL AND MOVED OVER HERE TO WHAT WAS BOYS RANCH.
THERE WAS A DAYCARE CENTER THERE THAT WE BOUGHT ABOUT 707,000FT², AND THEN WE BOUGHT THAT AND TORE IT DOWN TO BUILD GENERATION PARK.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING A NEW CLUBHOUSE WITH A FULL GYMNASIUM AND SPACE FOR BOTH ADULTS AND YOUTH AND COVID HIT AND ALL THE KIDS WENT HOME.
AND THE COMPANIES, THE FOUNDATIONS THAT WERE GOING TO HELP US BUILD THAT, PUT IT ON HOLD.
SINCE WE WERE MAKING PAYMENTS ON THIS MORTGAGE, WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO SELL IT.
AND WHEN THE KIDS CAME BACK, WE LEASED SPACE OVER HERE ON HARWOOD AT THE EMMANUEL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHICH WHEN WE SAW YOU LAST, YEAH, YEAH. WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE'VE GOT 7000FT² THERE AND WE'RE GOOD FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
BUT WE ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING THEM, YOU KNOW, BUY THIS LAND BECAUSE IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO US TO GET THE LAND SOLD AND BE ABLE TO MOVE ON WITH OUR PLANS.
NOW, LOOKING AT THIS LAND AND THE TREES ARE THE BIG ISSUE.
I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE ON THAT LAND LOOKING AT THESE TREES AND LOOKING BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT WENT TO BUILD OUR BUILDING, OUR $5 MILLION BUILDING, WE WERE GOING TO CUT DOWN 34 TREES.
SO OVER HALF OF THEM WERE GOING TO BE CUT DOWN AND IT WAS APPROVED.
WE WENT EVEN WENT TO THE GROUNDBREAKING WITH IT BEFORE WE HAD TO GIVE UP ON IT.
BUT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT A GOOD MANY OF THOSE.
CAN YOU SHOW THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE TREE LAYOUT UP THERE AGAIN? THERE YOU GO. OVERHEAD, ALL OF THESE ALL OF THESE TREES IN HERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT.
IT WAS APPROVED SO WE COULD BUILD OUR.
NOW, THESE TREES UP HERE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ARE THE SPACES ONE, TWO AND THREE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE, THEY'RE NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
SOMEONE PROBABLY OUGHT TO COME DOWN ANYWAY.
I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE.
WELL, YOU KEEP THOSE THAT ARE GREEN, AREN'T YOU? YEAH, WE'RE KEEPING THE GREEN.
BUT HE'S LOOKING ABOUT ONE, TWO AND THREE IN THE MIDDLE.
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I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE CHAIRMAN IS.IT'S THE MORE CENTERED SECTION.
OKAY, MR. HOPKINS, I NEED YOU TO COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
SO FROM THE STANDPOINT WE HAVE TREES IN OUR YARD.
AND SO THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SELECTION PROCESS THERE.
THERE'S ABOUT 60 TREES ALTOGETHER IF YOU GO IN AND COUNT THEM ALL.
WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT ABOUT 24.
THEY'LL BE TAKING OUT ABOUT 34.
BUT WITH THAT DIFFERENCE, THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT TREES.
HOW MANY ARE YOU PUTTING IN THERE? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO PUT TREES WHEREVER.
ANY ALL THE EMPTY SPACES OR ALL THE AREAS.
SIR, I'LL NEED YOU TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA IN THE CENTER, THERE IS AN EMPTY SPACE RIGHT THERE.
BUT THE EXISTING TREES ARE I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, JUST I HAVE TO PROFESS THAT I'M NOT SURE WHY SOME OF THESE TREES NEXT TO BEDFORD ROAD HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT, BUT I ASSUME MOST OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION OF THE SIDEWALK.
ALL THESE TREES ALONG BEDFORD ROAD CAN STAY, BUT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE CITY.
THEY TOLD US THAT WE NEED TO ADD THE SIDEWALK.
I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW ARE FARTHER DOWN THROUGH THE PLAT AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS THAT STAFF WILL ADDRESS.
CORRECT. BUT IT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
BUT THOSE THINGS WILL BE ADDRESSED.
SO SOME OF THOSE FURTHER DOWN CAN STAY FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.
BUT I'VE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE PLANS FOR THE FLOOR PLANS.
MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE BEYOND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, BUT THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY NICE PLACES.
THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, 2600FT² OR SOMETHING, THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BATHS, DOUBLE CAR GARAGES, AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE UP IN THE PRICE RANGE WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN.
THANK YOU, MR. HOPKINS. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
SO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, HOW DO YOU WANT TO SELECT YOUR SPEAKERS IN WHICH ORDER? YES, MA'AM. I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR MORROW GREEN.
MAYBE IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP TO THE FRONT AND ASK.
I NEED EVERYBODY TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
ONE SPEAKER FOR ALL? NO, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF.
I JUST WANTED YOU FOLKS TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANTED TO PROCEED WITH WHO SPEAKS WHEN.
I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST LINING UP AT THE MICROPHONE.
WELL, WE TAKE NUMBERS, AND THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. HI, MY NAME IS AMBER AUGUST.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR METRO GREEN.
I'M AT 53 MORROW DRIVE AND ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WERE MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE INTENTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE RUN INTO A LOT IS TRESPASSERS ON OUR PROPERTY WHERE THEY PARK IN OUR PROPERTY, THEY VISIT THE POOL IN OUR PROPERTY, THEY COME TO THE TENNIS COURTS, THEY LITERALLY JUMP THE FENCES.
AND WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF AMENITIES AND WE DON'T WANT MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO MORROW.
GREEN SO THE WAY THAT THIS IS DESIGNED HAS CONCERNED AT LEAST THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REGARDING THAT.
UM, I HAD THE FENCE ON MY LIST, SO THAT WAS ALREADY ADDRESSED.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE WONDERING ABOUT IS IF THERE WAS ANY COMMUNITY COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE ALREADY CREATED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND IF WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL BEING DONE, BECAUSE SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'VE PASSED IN METRO GREEN WERE SURROUNDING RENTALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE NO RENTALS IN MORROW GREEN AND THEN TURN AROUND AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT AND I REALIZE THIS IS NOT
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APARTMENTS, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP INDIVIDUAL INVESTORS FROM PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, TURNING THEM ALL INTO AIRBNBS, AND THEN WE END UP WITH MORE PEOPLE INSIDE OF MORROW GREEN WANDERING AROUND LOOKING FOR AN ADDRESS THAT ISN'T EVEN IN OUR PROPERTY.I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS ALSO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR A PAD.
OKAY. AND WAS THAT ALSO A PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION? YES. AND ARE THERE CCNR'S OR BYLAWS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COPIED FROM THAT, OR ARE YOU ALL CREATING NEW ONES? LET'S NOT HAVE THE BACK AND FORTH.
WE CAN ADDRESS ANSWERS, BUT YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS.
OKAY. SO I'M WONDERING, THOUGH, ABOUT CCNR'S OR BYLAWS IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME ONES FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, IF THERE'S A WAY TO SEE WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE OR IF THEY HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE WHERE WE CAN SEE, OKAY, THEY HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINING THESE PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, THEY MENTIONED THE BACKYARDS.
WE HAD TO BAN ALL BIRD FEEDERS BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH RATS COMING INTO OUR PROPERTY.
AND WE SPEND ABOUT $10,000 A YEAR PREVENTING RATS.
AND SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT PROPERTY WHERE THE OWNER CAN MAINTAIN THEIR OWN BACKYARD AND WHO KNOWS, THEY DO WHATEVER IN THEIR BACKYARD AND WE END UP WITH RATS. SO THOSE ARE ALL CONCERNS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT TO US, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT HAVE COME UP.
AND LAST, THE OTHER CONCERN IS, EVEN IF THIS IS A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, IF THEY ARE MAINTAINING THEIR OWN STUFF, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO AFFORD THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE 201.
AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT HOW SMALL THIS IS.
WE PAY ALMOST $90,000 A YEAR JUST FOR LANDSCAPING, AND THAT'S JUST FOR SOMEONE TO MOW OUR GRASS.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO LOOK AND HOW IT MAY LOOK TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SIDING? IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE A CONDO ASSOCIATION OR IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE EACH HOMEOWNER HAS TO PAINT THEIR OWN PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL IN CHARGE OF MOWING THEIR OWN LAWNS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S VARIOUS CONSIDERATIONS THERE FOR HOW WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY.
APPRECIATE IT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE OUR NEXT SPEAKER? THAT'S WHY I'VE KIND OF PREFACED IT BEFORE.
IF YOU HAD ONE PERSON, THIS GENTLEMAN, COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVE GEBHART.
I LIVE AT 625 MERRILL DRIVE HERE IN BEDFORD, TEXAS.
IT MAKES FULL USE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOREVER RATHER THAN HAVING AN EMPTY PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT TO VAGRANCY TO PEOPLE RUNNING IN HIGH GRASS PESTS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGH CLASS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL ADD VALUE TO BEDFORD.
IT WILL PROVIDE TAX REVENUE FOR BEDFORD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DESIRE TO BALANCE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, MAKING SURE WE DON'T EXCESSIVELY REMOVE TREES AT ALL POSSIBLE.
BUT I WOULD CAUTION THAT WE DON'T TURN THIS AROUND WHERE WE CAN'T DEVELOP ANYTHING BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO TAKE AWAY TREES TO MAKE SURE THIS LAND CAN BE USED PROPERLY.
THERE'S ALWAYS CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE BALANCED BETWEEN WHAT'S ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE REMOVAL OF TREES OR CHANGING HOW THE LAND IS DEVELOPED, RETENTION PONDS, ETCETERA.
BUT IF WE ONLY FOCUS ON JUST ONE ASPECT BEING THE TREES, THEN WE'LL LOSE AN
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OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT ADDS A GOOD AMOUNT OF VALUE.THIS IS IDEALLY SUITED FOR THIS LOCATION.
IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT RENTALS, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT FITS WELL WITHIN THE USE AS DESCRIBED FOR ALL THE OTHER SURROUNDING UNITS. IT'LL BE FENCED, IT'LL BE SEPARATE UNTO ITS OWN.
AND IT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS NOT HAPPEN FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
AND SOME OF THIS IS REALLY BASIC FOR ME.
IT GOES DOWN TO, AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY, CAN I NOT DO WITH MY PROPERTY AS I DESIRE WITHIN CERTAIN REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS? DO I NOT OWN MY PROPERTY? CAN I NOT DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY OR NOT? OR CAN ANYBODY WHO DRIVES BY SAY, WELL, I LIKE THE WAY YOUR PROPERTY LOOKS RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS WHY WE GET TOGETHER AND POOL OUR MONEY AND RESOURCES TO PRIVATELY FUND PARKS OR TO HAVE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DESIGNATE LAND AND PURCHASE IT AND PRESERVE IT UNTO ITSELF.
THAT IS THE PROPER WAY FOR US TO MAINTAIN OUR GREEN SPACE.
I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. GEPHARDT. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I HAVE A QUESTION.
GO AHEAD. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT SINCE ONE OF THE TREES THAT THEY DECIDED THAT THEY SHOULD STAY NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN BECAUSE IT ALREADY FELL BETWEEN HER AND MY PROPERTY A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT'S DISEASE.
THE WEATHER WAS BAD AND THE TREE, A BIG LIMB FELL.
I THINK THEY TOOK CLOSE TO OUR HOUSES.
I DON'T AGREE THAT THE ZONING SHOULD CHANGE.
I THINK IT SHOULD STAY AS AN SFR.
IF THEY WANT TO BUILD ANYTHING, THEY NEED TO KEEP SINGLE RESIDENTIALS, THEY'RE TOO CONGESTED FOR THERE AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF BEDFORD ROAD.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
GOOD EVENING. JACKIE BAKER 98 MORROW ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE MORAL GREEN CROWD.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DETENTION POND.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? IT'S GOING TO FILL UP WITH WATER.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE STAGNANT WATER WITH MOSQUITOES BREEDING IN IT? AND IF SO, WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? IT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. GOT A RED RAIDER GOING TO COME TO THE PODIUM HERE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR US.
AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT, THAT NORTH ROW RIGHT ACROSS THE FENCE FROM THAT IS OUR HOME IS THREE TIMBER GREEN.
I'VE GOT A REAL CONCERN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING IN AND ON AVERAGE IT'S A DOUBLE CAR GARAGE.
NOW WE FIND OUT THAT'S TWO CARS FOR 30 PROPERTIES PLUS FIVE GUEST PARKING FIVE, I BELIEVE FIVE GUEST SPOTS OR MAYBE MORE. BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE DROPPING, LET'S JUST SAY ON AVERAGE 65 VEHICLES INTO THIS
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ACREAGE WITH TWO ACCESS POINTS TO BEDFORD ROAD, A TRAFFIC LIGHT ROUGHLY MAYBE 100 YARDS TO THE OTHER DIRECTION UP OFF OF FOREST RIDGE.AND THEN ONE OF OUR ACCESS POINTS TO BEDFORD ROAD IS RIGHT ABOUT BELOW THERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT 60 CARS IN HERE.
THE VARIOUS POINTS OF TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY ARE GOING TO BE ACCESSING BEDFORD ROAD, EITHER GOING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND IT'S GOING TO INHIBIT OUR ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUT. FURTHERMORE, DOWN THE ROAD, THIS IS A HIGHER CONGESTED AREA THAN WHAT MORROW GREEN IS.
I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TEN POINT OR 12 POINT OR 12 HOMES PER ACRE VERSUS TEN HOMES.
UM, A TIGHT SECTION OF PROPERTY THAT AT SOME POINT DURING THE COURSE, FIVE, TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT MUCH DENSITY IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF WEAR ON THOSE STREETS AND THAT'S GOING TO FALL TO THE HOA TO MAINTAIN THOSE BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T CITY STREETS.
MORROW DRIVE IS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S WHY IT GOT REFINISHED OR RESURFACED LAST YEAR.
SO I THINK THE POINT THAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE IS THIS IS TOO DENSE WITHIN A COMPACTED AREA AND TOO HIGH, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC GOING ONTO ONE OF THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES IN OUR CITY.
SO I'D ASK YOU THAT TO TAKE A LOOK CLOSER, LOOK AT THIS OR TABLE IT AND LOOK AT IT.
DIFFERENT LAYOUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELCOME. YOU'VE HEARD THE PROCEDURE.
SO THANK YOU. VERNON MARLER, 15 MORAL.
WE'VE HAD SOME STRANGE WEATHER THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND IT'S TAXED THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THAT, ARE WE? HAS ANYBODY REALLY LOOKED AT CAN OUR CURRENT UTILITIES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON, CAN THEY HANDLE MORE STRESS? WE'RE GOING TO ADD 60 MORE UNITS OR WHATEVER, 30 UNITS, WHATEVER IT IS TO.
AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, MANY TIMES MAINTAINING UTILITIES.
AND THERE WILL BE CERTAINLY THE SEWER SYSTEM, THE STREETS.
BUT MORE THAN I WORRY ABOUT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING IS ELECTRICAL AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS GO WITH IT.
WE CAN SAY, YEAH, WE CAN HANDLE IT.
WHAT'S THE UTILITY COMPANY SAYING? DOES ANYBODY? I THINK WE NEED TO WE REALLY NEED TO TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THAT TO BE MAINTAINED.
BILL FROGS. HE'S GOT HIS HEAD ON.
WE'LL FIND OUT SOON. ANYONE ELSE? THESE HAVE BEEN GREAT COMMENTS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
YES, SIR. STEP RIGHT UP AND BE NEXT.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS AS OF ABOUT, WHAT, TEN DAYS AGO? SO I'M A LITTLE NEW TO THE PROCEEDINGS PLAYING CATCH UP, IF YOU WILL.
I'M NEW TO TEXAS, NEW TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WHAT I WOULD WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND IS HOW IMPORTANT THIS LAND WAS TO US.
INITIALLY, WE INTENDED THIS TO BE OUR FUTURE.
WE NEVER INTENDED FOR THIS LAND TO BE USED IN ANY CAPACITY OTHER THAN SOMETHING ABOVE REPROACH.
WE INTEND THE LAND TO BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING THAT'S ABOVE REPROACH.
THAT MEANS THE THINGS THAT WERE DESCRIBED IN THE ZONING PRESENTATION.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
THERE ARE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN WHO NEED THIS SALE TO GO THROUGH.
QUITE FRANKLY, WE ARE PAYING A MORTGAGE ON A PROPERTY THAT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS TRANSACTION IS TO THE COMMUNITY.
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IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HELP.THOSE THINGS MATTER TO US AND WE WILL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THEM INTERNALLY.
THANK YOU, SIR, AND WELCOME TO TEXAS.
AMBER AUGUST 53RD, MORROW DRIVE IS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE RESEARCHED.
BUT IF THE CLUBHOUSE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS REALLY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS LAND MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THEY AND MORROW GREEN TO POSSIBLY GET TOGETHER AND CREATE A SET OF RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT LAND THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO TRAVEL FORWARD WITH THE LAND AND THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT IS BEING PUT THERE? THANK YOU. AND.
SORRY. YES, MA'AM. SORRY, I WAS.
I THOUGHT SAL WAS GOING TO TALK THERE.
HI. MY NAME IS BARBARA FREEBORN.
I LIVE AT 333 EAGLE DRIVE IN BEDFORD, TEXAS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE CLUBHOUSE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.
AND I THINK THAT GETTING TOGETHER AND HAVING A DISCUSSION WOULD BE GOOD.
I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT I LIVE HERE IN BEDFORD, AND I WANT THE BEDFORD TO LOOK GOOD.
AND WE KNOW MR. YOSHIDA AND HE IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY.
AND WE WANT ALL OF YOU TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO TRY TO THROW SOMETHING UP ON THE WALL TO MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY.
THE CLUBHOUSE HAS BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER ALMOST 18 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE CLUBHOUSE FOR TEN OF THOSE 17 YEARS.
I'M CLOSE. SO WE CARE ABOUT BEDFORD AND I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I WOULD HIGHLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE, YES, APPROVE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT FOLLOWS YOUR GUIDELINES.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE CLUBHOUSE.
CAN I JUST. SOME OF THEM? SURE. YES, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. THE NAME TOM GREEN LIVE AT NINE GREEN TREE IN MURRELL GREEN.
AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF WHAT I LOOK AT WHEN I GO OUT MY PATIO AND I LOOK TOWARD THE WHAT I CALL THE CHURCH PROPERTY.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO ENHANCE THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY AND I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE MY QUALITY OF LIFE.
I'M HEARING THE ARGUMENTS TODAY, AND ON ONE HAND I HEAR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE TRYING TO SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE MONEY TO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S JUSTIFICATION FOR ME TO JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON IN ORDER TO AFFECT THAT SALE.
WE ALMOST GOT DISTRACTED BY THE TREES.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT I PROVIDED.
WHEN I LOOK OUT, ALL I SEE ARE TREES AND I SEE A CHURCH PROPERTY.
IN FACT, I DIDN'T EVEN I WASN'T AGAINST THE SPECIAL NEEDS PROPOSAL AS I SAW IT, BECAUSE IT PROVIDED ENOUGH GREEN SPACE AND IT PROVIDED ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN MY PLACE AND THAT FACILITY THAT I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
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WHEN I LOOK OUT, IF THIS IS CONSTRUCTED LIKE THAT.THAT'S WHERE MY HOME. COME BACK.
WHERE WAS THAT? IT WAS CIRCLED BY THE CIRCLE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK OUT, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WHEN I DON'T HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND KIND OF LIKE THE HISTORY OF THE LAND HAS AN IMPACT ON YOU OR NOT.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE.
I THINK MAYBE THE CITY COULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO TRY TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THIS.
BUT IT'S KIND OF A JEWEL OF OF GREEN SPACE.
AND SO I LIVED THERE FOR 21 YEARS AND STARTED IN 2002.
AND IF IT WERE RETURNED TO A CHURCH, THAT WOULD MAKE ME VERY HAPPY.
IF AS LONG AS THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU, MISTER GREEN. APPRECIATE YOU.
AND, YES, MY BACKYARD IS GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT AT THOSE TWO STORIES.
COULD IT BE A CONSIDERATION OF JUST HAVING SINGLE LEVEL TOWNHOMES IN THERE? AND I KNOW THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT 30 OF THEM IN THERE BECAUSE THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SPREAD THEM OUT.
I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ROSEMARY MOLINARO ONE GREEN TREE LANE BEDFORD.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK SOMEBODY TO HELP ME.
YES, MA'AM, IT IS. IT SOUNDS PRETTY AWFUL.
IT ALLOWS FOR WATER TO TEMPORARILY COLLECT THERE AND THEN DRAIN OFF SO THAT IT SLOWS SLOWS THE DRAINAGE OF THE WATER FROM THE PROPERTY TO ITS NATURAL DRAIN POINT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED. IT'S A DESIGNATED AREA TO FACILITATE DRAINAGE.
AND MOST PLACES AROUND HERE HAVE THAT IN THEIR IN THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT IT'S A VERY COMMON ACTIVITY.
AS JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU GO SOUTH ON 157 TOWARDS HIGHWAY 30, THE VIRIDIAN AREA, THE WATER THAT'S THERE, THE REASON THAT'S A BIG LAKE, THAT'S THEIR RETENTION POND, THAT'S THEIR RETENTION AREA.
AND THEY BUILD ALL THOSE PROPERTIES THERE.
THIS IS A REALLY BIG EXAMPLE THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO US.
OKAY, WELL, SORRY, I'M STILL NOT TOO THRILLED ABOUT IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
WHAT GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE THAT IT WON'T GET ON OUR PROPERTY? CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION RIGHT HERE? WHAT GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE THAT WATER WILL NOT COME TO OUR PROPERTY? BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLOSE.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT, ALL THE HOMES AROUND THERE.
LIKE TO. TALKING ABOUT THE DETENTION POND.
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IF YOU. I'M WELL, THANK JOHN THERE.THEY HAVE A DETENTION POND RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER OF ASH LANE AND THE LAKE DRIVE.
AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT THING WITH WATER SITTING IN IT.
IT'S A PLACE THAT'S IT'S A BACKUP JUST IN CASE.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE DEBATES DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT IT'S CLARIFIES SOME INFORMATION AS STAFF. SINCE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT, AS STAFF MENTIONED EARLIER, BECAUSE THE CITY OF BEDFORD DOES NOT HAVE A STORMWATER PIPING IN THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF BEDFORD ROAD, THEN PART OF THE ENGINEERED REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT MAY INCLUDE SOME RETENTION AREA.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S AN ENGINEERING THING THAT GETS GETS REVIEWED.
MR. GREEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, SIR? I'VE GOTTEN OVER MY STAGE FRIGHT.
OH, YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
YOU JUST. YOU JUST DIDN'T WEAR YOUR BEST TEAM HAT TODAY.
YEAH, I DID THE HART TO HART PART.
AND BUT NOW I'M THINKING MORE NUTS AND BOLTS.
AND AS I LOOK AT THAT, DOES THE CITY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE SURGE? WHAT'S THE COST GOING TO BE TO THE CITY FOR PROVIDING SUPPORTING IMPROVEMENTS AND ACCOMMODATIONS FOR SEWER, FOR EXAMPLE, AND FOR PROVIDING, I GUESS WATER IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE STRETCHED, BUT FLUSHING TOILETS, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT CAN BE DONE ON THAT IN THAT SCALE WITHOUT THE CITY GETTING INVOLVED IN SOME WAY AND INCREASING CAPACITY UNLESS THE CAPACITY IS ALREADY THERE.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS A THOUGHT AND SO WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IF DOES THE CITY RUN A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO SEE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT EFFECT ON THE ROADWAYS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROVISION OF SEWAGE AND.
WHAT'S THAT GOING TO COST THE CITY? WHAT'S THE CITY GOING TO GET BACK FROM IT IN THE FORM OF, I GUESS, CITY REVENUES, RETAILERS HAVING 30 MORE HOMES IN THE LOCATION. IT'D BE NICE TO SEE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S THE NUTS AND BOLTS SIDE OF IT.
THANK YOU. SO HAVE YOUR DO YOU HAVE A REACTION FROM YOU ON THAT TO THE CITY? DO THOSE THINGS? WELL, I WILL.
AND THOSE THINGS ARE NORMALLY ADDRESSED AND RECONCILED WITH THE DEVELOPER AFTER IT HAS LEFT.
SO IN THAT TIME PERIOD, THE WAY THE PROCESS GOES, IT AFFECTS PLANNING AND ZONING.
THOSE THINGS ARE DESIGNATED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD BETWEEN PRELIMINARY PLAT AND FINAL PLAT THAT THEN WE BY CITY CHARTER ARE OBLIGATED AND REQUIRED TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT HAS TO COME TO US FIRST BEFORE IT CAN GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
YEAH, IMPACT ON SCHOOL, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT RAISES A QUESTION WHAT WHAT THEN WOULD AND HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO FROM US WHO DON'T WANT A CHANGE IN THE ZONING? WHAT WOULD YOU RESPOND TO? BECAUSE YOU'RE HEARING I'M TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, HISTORY OF THE LAND.
YOU'VE GOT A PICTURE FROM ME OF WHAT I SEE.
[01:20:04]
I LOVE THE TREES. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY I BOUGHT THAT PARTICULAR UNIT WAS BECAUSE MY UNIT IS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE.SO NOW THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT I'M GOING TO BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE WITH ABOUT THREE OTHER UNITS RIGHT THERE BLOCKING MY VIEW OF THE SKY AND YOU KNOW, AND LIKE THAT.
AND SO THERE WAS FINAL THOUGHT IS THE TREES ACTUALLY GIVE OFF OXYGEN AND SUCK UP CO2.
SO YOU WANT TO BE REALLY CONTEMPORARY.
YOU'LL JUST HAVE ANOTHER PLAN THAT ALLOWS ALL THOSE TREES TO STAY THERE, GIVING US OXYGEN, SUCKING UP CO2 AND CURRENT ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE REAL HAPPY WITH THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. GREEN. APPRECIATE IT.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS AND WE'VE PROBABLY GONE INTO SOME AREAS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE PURVIEW OF PLANNING AND ZONING IN THIS PARTICULAR STEP OF THE PROCESS.
AND BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL JUST SAY THAT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TODAY ARE THE NORMAL PROCESS.
AND UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A NECESSARY PROCESS OF A MUNICIPAL.
MOST THINGS NEED TO BE DEVELOPED.
AND DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S JUST THE REGULATIONS AND DECISIONS ARE BASED ON TRYING TO MOVE THAT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO I JUST I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT TODAY AND YOUR TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
WELL, WE WILL. WE'LL MISS AUGUST.
TO DO THAT, LET'S LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, WE STILL HAVE WE NOW HAVE THIS ITEM BEFORE US.
WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AMONGST OURSELVES PRIOR TO WHATEVER ACTION WE TAKE THIS EVENING.
OKAY. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST MS..
AUGUST IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HOA FOR MORAL GREEN.
IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE REASONABLE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT YOU WANT IS THE BEST OUTCOME.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 34 YEARS AND I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE BEST OUTCOME.
AND I THINK EVERYONE ALONG HERE DOES.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT THE HOA FOR MORAL GREEN SAT DOWN.
HE ONLY HE'S MISSING TWO OF HIS YOU KNOW, HE'S JETLAGGED.
HE'S MISSING HIS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, HE'S MISSING THE DEVELOPER AND SO ON.
SO HE'S HE'S SOMEWHAT NOT HAS A FULL TEAM HERE THAT YOU SAT DOWN WITH THEM WITH THE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYTHING, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY COULD LIVE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY TABLE IT HERE AT PLANNING AND ZONING, GIVE YOU ADEQUATE TIME TO COME BACK AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE MET WITH THESE FOLKS, THEY'VE AGREED TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS, AND YOU GET MOST OF WHAT YOU WANT, OR AT LEAST EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY FEELING THAT THEY WERE A WINNER.
[01:25:01]
THE LADY ASKED ABOUT RETENTION AND DETENTION PONDS.A RETENTION POND HOLDS WATER PERMANENTLY.
A DETENTION POND HOLDS WATER FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND SLOWLY RELEASES IT OUT.
I'VE LIVED WITH BOTH, AND IF THEY'RE DESIGNED PROPERLY, THEY WORK FINE.
AND THEIR PART? I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THEY DO WORK.
SO I'M JUST MAKING THAT SUGGESTION.
AND THAT GIVES THE CHANCE FOR THE MORAL GREEN RESIDENTS WHO APPEAR TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS HERE TO DISCUSS WITH YOUR WHOLE TEAM BECAUSE YOU'VE ONLY IT'S ONLY YOU AND THE OTHER FOLKS ARE OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, WE COULD POSSIBLY TABLE IT HERE.
THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT I'M MAKING.
AND SO I'LL KIND OF LEAVE IT AS THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? SO. STAFF WES.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, QUESTIONED.
ARE THOSE ITEMS THAT FALL FARTHER DOWN THE TIMELINE OF THE PROCESS? IN PLOTTING DEVELOPING ON THAT.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS AND QUESTIONS.
I'VE HEARD QUESTIONS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHO PAYS FOR WHAT.
WHO DOES? YOU KNOW, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, THIS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
THE CITY DID NOT GO REQUEST THIS APPLICATION, AND SO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER CAME IN.
HE PROVIDED HIS PLANS, STAFF REVIEWED IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT WHEN IT DOES GET TO DETERMINING.
WE'VE DONE. PART OF WHAT WE DO ON THE STAFF SIDE IS WE REVIEW EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER TO MAKE ON PRELIMINARY UTILITY PLANS THOSE DETAILED PLANS ARE REVIEWED AT OR PRIOR TO PLANNING STAGES.
SO IT'S BETWEEN ZONING AND PLANNING.
WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DID I ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD? YOU DID OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.
MY COMMENT WOULD BE LET THE CITY STAFF DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
WE TRUST THEM TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
RIGHT. YEAH, THIS IS WAY EARLY IN THE PROCESS AS WELL.
A LOT OF STUFF CAN HAPPEN BEFORE IT'S DONE.
IT'S DEFINITELY. COMMISSIONERS.
ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, I'LL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED OR WE'VE LISTENED TO THE SITUATION.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE SEE DIFFERENTLY.
WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THINGS.
AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY BEING ASKED TO DO TONIGHT IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW.
TO MOVE THIS TO AN MD FOR DEVELOPMENT FROM OUR 7500 RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TONIGHT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE BASED ON WHAT MR. GALLENSTEIN SAID, WHAT YOU'VE SAID, IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO WORK WITH THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO TABLE IT AND ALLOW THEM THAT TIME TO DO THAT. ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT A TIME FRAME ON THAT? SURE. IF YOU WANT TO SAY THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BY THE NEXT MEETING OR IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS.
60 DAYS, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
[01:30:05]
WE COULD STILL, THOUGH, APPROVE IT FOR FOUR.JUST DOESN'T MEAN THAT SITE PLAN NECESSARILY IS GOING TO BE APPROVED, RIGHT? NO, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE APPROVING MD FOUR, YOU'RE APPROVING THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO IT'D BE LIKE A NEW REZONING APPLICATION.
OKAY. BECAUSE THE DESIGN PLAN IS PART OF THE REQUEST FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND IT BECOMES IT WOULD STILL BE PART OF IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, CAN I MAKE A MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO.
SURE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS PROPOSAL AND GIVE THE MORAL GREEN HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I'M GOING TO SAY 30 DAYS TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT.
IF THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
I MEAN, MY REASONING IS I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN SO MUCH.
LOOK, I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN SO MUCH DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
SO IN TERMS OF THE COVENANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ALL WHAT I HEARD FROM THE GENERAL LADY IS STUFF THAT WE WANTED TO BE IN THIS THING.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING THAT IS RUN DOWN BY ANY MEANS.
I MEAN, IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER'S BEST INTEREST.
I WILL ASK HER TO ACTUALLY GIVE US A COPY OF HERS AND WE CAN STUDY IT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL HAVE SO MUCH DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND HER.
AND ALSO THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.
WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD REAL QUICK, I GOT THE ATTORNEY OVER THERE WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING, SO I DIDN'T.
THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT'S FINE.
YOU CAN OPEN IT AGAIN, CONTINUE IT TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE.
WE HAVE USED THAT MECHANISM IN THE PAST.
WE HAVE. SO MAYBE TWO WEEKS WILL BE GIVE THE DEVELOPER I DO WANT I DON'T KNOW WHEN I WANT TO MAKE A PERSONAL EDITORIAL COMMENT HERE.
THIS IS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS IS NOT HOW YOU DO YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND WHO MOWS WHOSE YARD.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT FOR ALL OF THAT.
THE FACT THAT SOMEONE ELSE'S CCNR'S MIGHT OVERRIDE AND STOP A DEVELOPMENT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO AGREE TO IT WHEN THERE'S TWO CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES, THAT'S NOT GERMANE TO THIS SITUATION.
WHETHER OR NOT ANYBODY EVER AGREES THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE COVENANTS ON ADJOINING PROPERTIES COINCIDE OR EVEN EXIST, OR WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC OR WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE JUMPING FENCES AND TRASH AND YOU KNOW, WHO RENTS WHAT.
THERE'S PIECES OF PROPERTY AND MORAL GREEN THAT ARE RENTALS YOU JUST PASSED IN 2023, YOUR FIRST EVER SHORT TERM RENTAL AGREEMENT AMENDMENT TO YOUR CARRIES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON YOUR WEBSITE THERE'S A LINE THAT SAYS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT BUYING OR PROPERTIES FOR SALE OR RENTAL IN MORAL GREEN, IT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE.
SO WE'RE WE'RE IT'S INTERESTING THINGS, BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT CCAR IS IN TWO CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES OWNED BY TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLANNING, THE ZONING.
WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND WE'VE PROVIDED TO THE DEVELOPER.
I THINK THAT'S ALL WE REALLY WANT TO SEE AND WE CAN MEET WITH THEM BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.
I MEAN, THAT'S THEY STILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO.
NO, WAIT TEN DAYS BEFORE WE CAN MEET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ISSUE AN AGENDA.
NO, THAT'S SO THOSE THINGS I'M SORRY.
THOSE THINGS ARE NOT PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S NOT A PART OF APPROVING THIS PLAN.
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IT'S NOT PART OF A DESIGN PLAN THAT'S WAY DOWN THE ROAD.SO JUST TO AMEND COMMISSIONER GALLENSTEIN MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT THE DEVELOPER COME BACK TO US ON THE 15TH OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS OUR NEXT 14TH OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SUGGESTED THAT YOU TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT AND BRING IT BACK TO US AT THIS TIME.
SO I WOULD TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. GALLENSTEIN MOTION AS AMENDED BY ME.
THAT. AND IF YOU CAN AMEND THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SEPTEMBER 14TH AT 6 P.M.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO THE DISC CONTINUES TO BE AN OPEN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
SO WE HAVE A SECOND TO ROGERS AMENDMENT TO TO TABLE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT DEVELOPER COMES BACK ON THE 14TH AND THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN PENDING THAT MEETING ON THE 14TH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.
[INAUDIBLE], . OKAY, WE HAVE OUR LAST ITEM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW.
[UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS]
UPDATE ON PLANNING PROJECTS.WES. I ASK THIS EVERY MEETING.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK AND I DO HAVE AN UPDATE.
AND WHAT MR. GALLENSTEIN IS REFERRING TO IS OAKWOOD HILLS ESTATES ON HARWOOD.
THEY ARE VERY ANXIOUS TO START MOVING FORWARD.
SO IT'S ALL WAITING ON ME RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. DO THEY FALL UNDER OUR TREE ORDINANCE? THEY FALL UNDER OUR PREVIOUS TREE ORDINANCE.
SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST PREPARE YOU.
A LOT OF TREES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN WITHOUT MITIGATION.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, NICOLE.
ARE THEY EVER GOING TO COME BACK? WE ARE WORKING WITH THEIR ENGINEER TO SOLVE ALL THEIR OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
OKAY. WHEN IS THE MCDONALD'S SCHEDULED TO GO TO COUNCIL? WE'RE WAITING ON THEM.
HAVE THEY GOTTEN US A NEW LANDSCAPE? WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO PROVIDE US A NEW LANDSCAPING PLAN BASED ON Y'ALL'S CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
DOES THAT COME BACK TO US OR NO? NOPE, IT DOES NOT.
QUICK QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO TECHNICALLY ABSTAIN SINCE WE WEREN'T PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING? LIKE BRIAN ABSTAINED.
BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
DO I NEED TO TECHNICALLY ABSTAIN? REGARDING THE MINUTES? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
NO, I'LL LET FRITZ ANSWER THAT, BUT NO.
OKAY. I MEAN, A POINT OF ORDER HERE.
SOME PEOPLE SOMETIMES THERE ARE RULES THAT SAY THAT.
AND YOU CAN BELIEVE THEM. OKAY.
THANK YOU, MR. ATTORNEY. YES, SIR.
[01:40:02]
WE HAVE A MAYBE A POINT OF ORDER HERE.WE'RE NOT SURE RIGHT THIS MINUTE THAT WE GOT THE VOTE ON THE LAST.
MOTION, CORRECT? UH, FOR THE 1525 BEDFORD ROAD PROPERTY FOR THE FOR THE TABLE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE GOT AN ACTUAL ACCURATE VOTE ON THAT.
WE HAD 6216 IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
IS THAT INCORRECT? YEAH. OH, WERE YOU OPPOSED? WE DID NOT SEE YOUR HAND.
WELL, WHO INTENDED ON VOTING FOR IT? VOTING AGAINST THE DENIAL.
WELL, TABLE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM THAT WE TABLED, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.
I JUST I GUESS LET ME CLARIFY.
FIVE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THE ITEM.
A THE MOTION WASN'T TO APPROVE.
THAT'S WHEN WE DIDN'T BOOK THAT ONE.
SO IF YOU SO THE VOTE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO VOTE IN ORDER TO TABLE THE MEETING.
THERE WAS NOT A MOTION TO APPROVE UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING.
LOOK, WE'RE FINE, OKAY? WE'RE GOOD.
OKAY. HEY, WES. WHEN IS OUR AGREEMENT TO TABLE? YES. I THOUGHT WE.
I'VE BEEN AWAKE OVER HERE, AND THAT'S THE MOTION I HEARD.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSULTANTS MAKING ME WORK OVER HERE.
STOP. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO TALK LATER.
LIKE OUT IN THE HALL. I GOT TO GO FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THOUGH, SO.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
SO TELL ME IF I'M WRONG TO SAY THIS.
THE MOTION WAS TO TABLE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SEPTEMBER 14TH.
SO TABLE ANY ACTION OF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL OR APPROVAL.
HOW MANY WERE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THE ITEM? OKAY, SO I'M COUNTING FIVE.
HOW MANY WERE OPPOSED TO TABLING THE ITEM? OKAY, SO 5 TO 2.
THE MINUTES WILL REFLECT THAT.
THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS WAITING FOR A DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR ADJOURNMENT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, SIR.
THANK YOU. OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.