Aug 08, 2023 City Council

YOU READY? OKAY, GOOD.

[CALL TO ORDER/GENERAL COMMENTS]

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WE WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BEDFORD CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST 8TH, 2023.

HEY, KEITH.

MICHAEL WELLS, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR INVOCATION THIS EVENING? OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM, WILL YOU GIVE US THE INVOCATION? SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY.

SPIRIT OF JUSTICE.

WE HAVE BEEN CALLED TO LEAD THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.

HELP US AS LEADERS TO NOT ASK FIRST, HOW DO WE FIX THIS? BUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO LEARN? HOW MIGHT WE NEED TO CHANGE? AND TO WHOM DO WE NEED TO LISTEN? REMIND US BECAUSE WE ALL FORGET FROM TIME TO TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE NOISINESS OF WHAT PASSES FOR POLITICAL DEBATE TODAY, THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY LEADERS BUT ALSO SERVANTS.

AND THAT IS EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY AND OURS TO SERVE THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL.

REMIND US THAT NO MATTER WHERE WE LIVE, EVERYONE IS OUR NEIGHBOR.

AND THROUGHOUT THE AGES, PROPHETS HAVE CALLED THE LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE TO RESPECT AND PROTECT.

GRANT US THE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO KNOW AND WHAT TO TO KNOW AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

GOOD AND TRUE.

MAY WE SPEAK OUT WHEN IT IS TIME TO SPEAK OUT AND LISTEN PATIENTLY AND RECEPTIVELY WHEN IT IS TIME TO LISTEN.

MAY WE ALWAYS BE GUIDED BY THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY, BY THE SPIRIT OF JUSTICE, AND BY THE SPIRIT OF LOVE.

THIS WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT WE HOLD SACRED AND HOLY.

ALL THAT WE HOLD GOOD, RIGHT AND TRUE.

MAY IT BE SO.

AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGES.

. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. OKAY.

[COUNCIL RECOGNITION]

LET'S START WITH A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY OF A PLAQUE FROM THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD.

AND WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME THIS EVENING DONNA DAY FROM THE US COAST GUARD AUXILIARY.

WELCOME BACK, DONNA.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. RIGHT THERE.

IT'D BE PERFECT. I MET CHUCK CARLISLE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS DEALING WELL, I'M STILL DEALING WITH CERT.

HE WOULD LOAN US A ROOM OVER AT WHAT'S THE OLD LIBRARY FOR OUR MEETINGS AND TRAINING AND STUFF.

THROUGH THAT, HE STARTED LETTING THE COAST GUARD ACTIVE DUTY AND THE AUXILIARY USE THE SAME ROOM OVER THERE.

WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT 2 OR 3 OR MAYBE A FEW MORE EVERY YEAR FOR TRAINING WHEN WE BRING PEOPLE IN FROM HOUSTON AND NEW ORLEANS. AND SO WE'VE GOT A PLAQUE HERE.

THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AND COAST GUARD AUXILIARY WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF BEDFORD FOR THEIR UNWAVERING SUPPORT BY PROVIDING A FACILITY FOR OUR TRAINING NEEDS.

OH, AND THAT'S SUCH A GOOD MEMORY.

THINKING OF CHUCK AGAIN.

SO YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. OH, THANK YOU, DONNA.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

DON'T BE A STRANGER.

OH, I'M HERE PARKING YOUR CARS ON THE 4TH OF JULY AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT UP, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION.

THIS IS COUNCIL RESIGNATIONS.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY BOARD TO RECOGNIZE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES FOR MAINTAINING, IMPROVING AND OR KEEPING PROPERTY VISUALLY ATTRACTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE DAIS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, MARK LONG AND MISTY MALLORY FROM THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY BOARD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY LET MISTY TAKE THIS.

I KNOW CAROL OR KAREN JACOBSON COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO MISTY IS STEPPING IN.

BUT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM.

I'D LOVE TO SEE IT. I LOVE THE BEAUTY OF BEDFORD AND I LOVE THAT RESIDENTS ACTUALLY REALLY BUY INTO THIS.

SO SHE'S GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON IT AND KIND OF GO OVER THE WINNERS.

WE DO HAVE A POWERPOINT.

IF WE REMEMBER YOU'VE GOT THE CLICKER, SO I'LL LET HER DO THAT.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME, MISTY.

HELLO. SO, MY NAME IS MISTY MALLORY.

I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY BOARD.

I'M FILLING IN FOR OUR CHAIRPERSON, KAREN JACOBSON, THIS EVENING.

SO THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY, WE'RE HONORED TO RECOGNIZE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FOR THEIR WORK IN MAINTAINING BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING IN OUR CITY AND TO HELP KEEP BEDFORD BEAUTIFUL.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY TWO RESIDENTIAL AWARD WINNERS FOR OUTSTANDING YARD.

SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH 3805 BROOKSIDE DRIVE HERE.

SO THIS IS GEORGE AND KAREN MOUNTCASTLE.

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SO VERY PROUD OWNERS.

KAREN MOUNTCASTLE MOUNTCASTLE IS THE PRIMARY GARDENER.

SHE'S ALSO THE SECRETARY OF HER HOA AND HER HUSBAND GEORGE IS HER GARDENING ASSISTANT.

SO KAREN SAYS THAT HER GRANDMOTHER GAVE HER INSPIRATION TO BE THE GARDENER THAT SHE IS.

SHE IS PICKY ABOUT PLANTING AND CARING FOR THE YARD.

SHE LIKES TO EXPERIMENT WITH PLANTS, SEASONAL COLOR, AND KEEPS AN EYE ON ALL ASPECTS OF GARDENING.

SO, THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY PRESENTS 3805 BROOKSIDE DRIVE WITH THE BEAUTIFUL YARD AWARD.

AND ONE MORE SIDE NOTE.

APPARENTLY THEY'VE WON YARD OF THE MONTH VERY OFTEN WITH THEIR HOA.

SO VERY PROUD OWNERS.

AND THESE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL VIEWS OF THE HOUSE, BOTH FRONT AND THEN, OF COURSE, THIS ONE DOES INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BACKYARD, A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL TREAT THERE. BUT THEY WERE JUDGED ON THE FRONT.

SO DEFINITELY BEAUTIFUL HOME HERE.

SO THE NEXT RESIDENTIAL AWARD, AGAIN, OUTSTANDING YARD HERE.

SO THIS IS 3733 WALNUT DRIVE.

THE HOMEOWNER IS MARY WILLIS.

SHE'S BEEN THE HOMEOWNER THERE FOR 24 YEARS.

MARY DESCRIBES HERSELF AS HAVING PASSION FOR GARDENING.

SHE'S A HANDS ON GARDENER FROM FERTILIZING, EDGING, PLANTING ALL ASPECTS.

SHE ADMITS THAT SHE, TOO, IS PICKY ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE DONE.

SHE KEEPS SUN SHADE NEEDS OF PLANTS AND MINE ALONG WITH COLORS.

COMPLEMENTING THE HOME, MARY FEELS THAT THE YARD SHOULD HAVE CURB APPEAL AND HER YARD HAS THAT WELCOME COZY FEEL TO THE HOME.

SO, THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY PRESENTS 3733 WALNUT DRIVE WITH A BEAUTIFUL AWARD.

BEAUTIFUL YARD AWARD.

AND LET ME SEE YEAH ADDITIONAL PICTURES HERE BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THE PRIDE AND THE LOVE THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.

AND OF COURSE, THAT BRIGHT GREEN, YOU CAN TELL THAT WAS EARLIER.

EARLIER THIS SPRING.

NOT NOW. LOOKS COOLER.

YES. OKAY.

OOPS, SORRY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS AWARD.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO WINNERS HERE FOR THE SMART YARD ECO FRIENDLY PROPERTY.

WE'LL GO WITH THE OR START WITH THE SALTGRASS STEAK HOUSE OR OFF 1813 STATE HIGHWAY 121.

IS THAT THE FIRE FRIENDLY PROPERTY OR IS THAT.

YEAH. FIRE.

DID YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED? NO.

THEY HAD A FIRE. WAS THIS RECENTLY? YESTERDAY. OH.

OH, NO. DID IT RUIN THE LANDSCAPE? THE GOOD NEWS, MOST IMPORTANTLY.

OH, MAN. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE'LL LOOK AT WE'LL LOOK AT GOOD TIMES.

GOOD TIMES. I TAKE IT NO ONE WAS HURT.

OH, THE MEMORIES. SO SAWGRASS IS LOCATED AT ONE OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE ENTRYWAYS INTO THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND HAS A GREAT LANDSCAPE TO TO GREET DRIVERS.

IT'S DONE IN A RUSTIC, YET NEAT FEEL WITH NATIVE PLANTS WHICH COMPLEMENT THE BUSINESS.

IT PROVIDES A WELCOME FEEL INTO THE CITY AND THE THE MANAGER THERE.

HE WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED, SURPRISED WITH THE NEWS THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN THE AWARD AND VERY PLEASED.

SO THAT WAS ALWAYS EXCITING.

SO, THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY PRESENTS SALTGRASS WITH THE SMART YARD AWARD.

AND THEN OUR ADDITIONAL PICTURES HERE.

SO, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE SOME OF THE NATIVE PLANTS AND OF COURSE, THAT REAL NEAT GREEN YARD.

SO THE LAST ONE FOR THE BUSINESS AWARD.

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE PROPERTY AND YOU ALL MIGHT BE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE.

DR. MARK STUDER OF 1256 HARWOOD.

SO WHEN DR. STUDER IS NOT TAKING CARE OF HIS DENTAL PATIENTS, YOU MAY SEE HIM WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPE SURROUNDING HIS DENTAL BUSINESS BOTH IN THE FRONT AND THE BACK.

DRIVING ON HARWOOD, YOU'LL SEE AN AREA THAT'S LANDSCAPED NATIVE GRASSES AND HEAT TOLERANT NATIVE FLOWERS, ALONG WITH THE ROCK PATHS, WHICH THIS PICTURE DEFINITELY SHOWS THAT THE PLANTING AND MAINTAINING ARE DONE BY DR.

STUDER HIMSELF.

HE HAS A PASSION FOR BEAUTIFYING THE GROUNDS AROUND HIS BUSINESS BY USING NATIVE PLANTS.

HIS PASSION FOR GARDENING IS A JOY AND BEAUTY FOR ALL THAT DRIVE BY.

15 1256 HARWOOD AND OFTENTIMES YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE HIM OUT THERE HIMSELF.

SO THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY PRESENTS DR.

MARC STUDER DDS WITH AN OUTSTANDING YARD AWARD.

SO HERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES OF THAT LANDSCAPE.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS IT.

THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT. VERY NICE. SO WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS? THESE. THE PRESENTATIONS TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED ON AUGUST 26TH.

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IT SAYS, CONSIDER RESOLUTION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO NEED FOR A RESOLUTION.

NO, SIR. OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

NO, SIR. OKAY.

COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I THINK ANOTHER FANTASTIC JOB BY THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION RECOGNIZING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN BEDFORD.

SO I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS IS GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 26TH.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE HERE FROM BEAUTIFICATION.

IS IT JUST YOU? OH, YEAH.

YOU'RE HIDING BACK THERE.

WE SEE YOU, THOUGH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

[PRESENTATIONS]

FIRST, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE CITY'S WATER, SEWER AND STORMWATER RATE STRUCTURE AND OPTIONS TO PROVIDE REVENUES TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE OPERATING RESERVES AND FUND CAPITAL NEEDS. SO WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE DAIS OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KAREN RIGGS, AND CHRIS ECKERT FROM NEW GEN STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS FOR HIS ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO US.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO YES, THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR CHRIS TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE, KIND OF WHAT'S COMING THROUGH FROM TRA FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS AND OPERATION EXPENSES IN THE WATER SEWER FUND AND THE STORMWATER FUND.

SO, I'M JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE CHRIS WITH NEW GEN SOLUTIONS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH HIS ANALYSIS AND MODEL AND HE'S GOING TO GET REALLY TECHNICAL AND SHOW YOU HOW THE CALCULATIONS WORK. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

SO, HERE'S CHRIS.

CHRIS IS GOING TO WOW US WITH HIS PRESENTATION.

WELCOME BACK, CHRIS. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR COUNCIL AGAIN.

CHRIS ECKERT WITH NUGENT STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS.

A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

I'LL TRY AND MAKE THIS QUICK TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANT TO INDULGE YOU FOR JUST A SECOND.

I HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST WITH ME TONIGHT.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE GRETCHEN ZIMMERMAN.

GRETCHEN, WAIT. THANK YOU.

GRETCHEN IS MY FINANCE DIRECTOR AND CONTROLLER, AND SHE CAME TO ME.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SHE CAME TO ME A FEW WEEKS AGO AND SAID I'D LIKE TO COME SEE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION TO SEE THE PRESENTATION OF RESULTS, TO SEE WHAT YOU DO.

AND SO GRETCHEN DOES HAVE FAMILY IN THE AREA.

SHE HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS STUDY.

GRETCHEN IS A CPA.

SHE CHECKED ALL MY NUMBERS TONIGHT SO YOU GET EXTRA QUALITY ASSURANCE, QUALITY CONTROL.

AND I'D ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT THIS IS GRETCHEN'S FIRST EVER COUNCIL MEETING.

EVER. SO YOU ARE SETTING THE BAR FOR HER TONIGHT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT AS TO HOW A COUNCIL CONDUCTS BUSINESS.

SO, BUT AGAIN, AS WE JUMP IN TONIGHT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BARS IN BEDFORD AND LIQUOR FLOWS EASILY IN THE CITY.

AS WE JUMP IN TONIGHT, I'LL START WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO STORMWATER.

I'LL REMIND YOU, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WATER AND WASTEWATER, WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL THINGS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, SUFFICIENCY OF THE REVENUE STREAM.

ARE WE COVERING OUR EXPENSES? WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME FINANCIAL METRICS DETERMINING DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT RESERVES IN THE BANK? AT SOME POINT IT WILL START RAINING AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT WILL.

AND WHEN IT RAINS, WE SELL LESS WATER.

SO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SUFFICIENT MONEY IN THE BANK.

WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PAY OUR DEBTS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.

THAT'S JUST A METRIC WE LOOK AT TO ASSESS ARE WE ABLE TO PAY OUR DEBT, MEET OUR MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR BONDHOLDERS? I'LL REMIND YOU AGAIN THAT YOU DO TAKE WATER FROM TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY.

YOU BUY WATER FROM THEM.

YOU ALSO SEND YOUR WASTEWATER TO THEM TO BE TREATED.

THAT IS EFFECTIVELY A PASS-THROUGH COST THAT IS OUTSIDE YOUR CONTROL.

TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY DOES GO UP EVERY YEAR.

WHAT THAT REPRESENTS TO YOU IS AN INCREASE IN THE COST OF GOODS SOLD.

AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU PASS ALONG THOSE INCREASES EVERY YEAR.

FAILURE TO DO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE LESS RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN YOUR OWN INTERNAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE'LL SEE THOSE NUMBERS TONIGHT WHAT THAT MEANS WITHIN THE RATE RECOMMENDATION. SO WITH THAT, I DO HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR YOU THIS YEAR, AND IT REALLY CENTERS AROUND CAPITAL FUNDING.

THERE WAS A COUPLE PROJECTS HERE THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 THAT YOU COULD EITHER CHOOSE TO GO AND FUND THOSE WITH CASH.

THAT'S 310,500 THAT YOU SEE UNDER OPTION ONE.

SO OPTION ONE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OPTION TWO.

OPTION TWO TAKES THOSE DOLLARS AND ROLLS THOSE INTO A POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCE NEXT YEAR.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, OPTION ONE IS ABOUT A 6.2% OVERALL REVENUE INCREASE.

OPTION TWO IS ABOUT A 5% REVENUE INCREASE.

SO, THERE'S ABOUT A 1.2% DIFFERENCE OVERALL BETWEEN THESE SCENARIOS.

WHAT THIS MEANS TO AN AVERAGE CUSTOMER IS ABOUT $1.40, $1.44 A MONTH IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO SCENARIOS TONIGHT.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.

SO AGAIN, WE START OUT BY LOOKING OUR CURRENT RATES.

ARE THEY PERFORMING? ARE THEY PROJECTED TO PERFORM ADEQUATELY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE? THAT'S OUR REVENUE AND EXPENSE CHART.

THE LINE THERE IS OUR REVENUES, THE BARS, THAT'S OUR REVENUE REQUIREMENT OR OUR EXPENSES.

WHAT WE NEED TO GENERATE IN RATES.

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WE NEED SOME TYPE OF INCREASE GOING FORWARD.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU SEE A RESERVE CHART DAYS CASH ON HAND IF WE EXECUTE ON OUR CAPITAL PLAN BUT DID NOT INCREASE RATES, WE FALL SLIGHTLY BELOW OUR RESERVE POSITION.

WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT TELLS US AGAIN, WE NEED WE NEED SOME TYPE OF AN INCREASE GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 24.

THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.

WE'RE BELOW WHERE WE WANT TO BE IF WE DID NOT ADJUST RATES GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.

SO THE FONT IS A LITTLE SMALL.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER AGAIN.

THIS IS OPTION 16.2 OVERALL PERCENT REVENUE INCREASE GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 24.

OF THAT INCREASE, ABOUT 3.5% OF THAT IS SOLELY RELATED TO TREE COST.

SO THAT'S YOUR WHOLESALE COST.

YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.

YOU'VE GOT TO PAY YOUR BILL.

SO THAT 3.5% OF THAT OVERALL COST THERE IS TREE.

THE REST IS ASSOCIATED WITH INTERNAL CITY COST.

AS YOU SEE, COST INCREASES JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES DUE TO INFLATION.

BUT ALSO YOU HAVE YOUR CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXECUTE ON MAKING SURE YOU'RE REINVESTING IN YOUR SYSTEM.

SO AGAIN, THAT IS SCENARIO ONE OR OPTION ONE, A 6.2% OVERALL INCREASE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR A CUSTOMER? I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CHARTS FOR YOU HERE.

WE LOOK AT A SUMMER LEVEL CUSTOMER, HIGHER WATER USE THERE.

11,100 IS THE METRIC WE'RE USING THERE FOR AVERAGE SUMMER WATER USE.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, AGAIN, THAT'S MORE OF A WINTER AVERAGE WATER USE THERE ON THE SEWER.

THAT'S 5900 GALLONS OF SEWER THAT'S LOWER BECAUSE WE'RE WATERING THE YARD.

THAT WATER IS NOT GOING BACK INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

SO, AGAIN, 11,100 GALLONS OF WATER, 5900 GALLONS OF WASTEWATER RIGHT NOW, AS YOU SEE, 110 55.

THAT'S THE CURRENT RATE.

SO THAT'S THE BILL FOR A SUMMER WATER USER.

AVERAGE WATER USER ONE 1055.

OPTION ONE, THAT'S 6% INCREASE WOULD TAKE THAT TO 119 29.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $8.75 A MONTH ON A SUMMER WATER BILL.

WHEN WE GO AND LOOK AT A WINTER WATER BILL HERE, LOWER WATER USE, 5900 GALLONS, KEEPING THAT SAME WASTEWATER AMOUNT THERE, 5900 GALLONS.

THAT BILL WOULD BE 8522.

THE OPTION ONE PROPOSAL, THAT 6% INCREASE, 9215 WOULD BE THE BILL THAT'S ABOUT $6.93 WOULD BE THE MONTHLY INCREASE.

THERE ON A WINTER TYPE UTILITY BILL.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S OPTION ONE.

LET ME GO TO OPTION TWO RIGHT QUICK.

YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS CHART.

THIS IS PERFORMANCE UNDER CURRENT RATES, BUT OPTION TWO, A LITTLE BIT LOWER, NOT THE 6.2%.

WE'RE 5%, A LITTLE BIT LOWER HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER AS WELL.

AGAIN, MOST OF THAT BILL IS RELATED TO THOSE PASS-THROUGH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY.

SO, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO A CUSTOMER? AGAIN, THE SUMMER WATER BILL, 11,100 GALLONS OF WATER.

ONE 1055.

THAT'S THE CURRENT BILL.

OPTION TWO, THAT 5% INCREASE WOULD TAKE THAT TO ONE 1785.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $7.31.

AGAIN, OPTION ONE, THIS BILL WAS $8.75.

SO, IT'S 875 UNDER OPTION ONE.

UNDER OPTION TWO. IT'S 731 WOULD BE THE INCREASE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE TO THE CUSTOMER.

AGAIN, ABOUT $1 TO $40, 44 TO A CUSTOMER HERE.

FOR A WINTER WATER BILL.

AGAIN, 85, 22 GOING TO 90, 71.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $5.49.

THAT COMPARES WITH OPTION ONE WAS $6.93 WAS THE INCREASE THERE.

SO 693 OPTION ONE 549 UNDER OPTION TWO, AGAIN, NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS.

SO I SHOW YOU THIS CHART EVERY YEAR AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SAME SPIEL I GIVE YOU EVERY YEAR.

THIS IS NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

WHEN WE ARE COMPARING YOU TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

I'LL ALSO REMIND YOU I'M COMPARING BOTH YOUR CURRENT AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE RATES TO EVERYBODY ELSE'S RATES TODAY.

IF YOU SAW MY CALENDAR RIGHT NOW, YOU'D PROBABLY BE SHOCKED AT THE NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

THERE ARE TONS OF CITIES GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT RATES.

SO, IF WE RERUN THIS LATER IN THE YEAR, IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT BECAUSE CITIES ARE TAKING DIFFERENT ACTIONS RELATIVE TO THEIR RATES RIGHT NOW.

SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT SUMMER WATER BILL ONE 1055 YOU SEE WHERE YOU FALL WITHIN THIS COMPARISON RIGHT NOW FOR OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO AGAIN, OPTION TWO IS A LITTLE LESS THAN OPTION ONE.

BUT THAT'S THE SUMMER BILL AND THEN THE WINTER BILL AGAIN, 85, 22 GOING TO EITHER THE LEVELS YOU SEE AT OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO.

AND AGAIN, THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK DIFFERENT AS WE GET INTO LATER THIS YEAR AFTER VARIOUS COUNCILS TAKE ACTION ON THEIR RATES.

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ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER OPTION 1 OR 2 OR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING? OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. THIS IS USUALLY THE MOMENT WHERE WE'RE GROWING TIRED OF YOUR CONVERSATION.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND NOTHING.

IT'S REAL. IT'S REAL EASY FROM THIS POINT ON.

OKAY, VERY GOOD. SO JUST A FEW MORE SLIDES.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, AS YOU LOOKED AT THE STAFF MEMO, IT TALKED ABOUT CONSERVATION.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR WATER RATE STRUCTURE, YOU HAVE A TWO PART STRUCTURE.

THERE'S A FIXED CHARGE.

EVERY CUSTOMER PAYS EVERY MONTH, REGARDLESS OF USE.

THEN THERE'S A VARIABLE CHARGE.

THAT VARIABLE CHARGE IS THE SAME FOR EVERY GALLON OR EVERY THOUSAND GALLONS USED BY A CUSTOMER.

ONE THING THAT WE DO RECOMMEND TO OUR CLIENTS IS THAT YOU POTENTIALLY CONSIDER WHAT WE CALL AN INCLINING BLOCK OR CONSERVATION BASED RATE STRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS A POLICY CHANGE.

BUT ONE THING I DID WANT TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT IS SOME CONSIDERATION GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF CONSERVATION BASED OR INCLINING BLOCK RATE STRUCTURE SUCH THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BETTER ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION, NOT CERTAINLY NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY GOING FORWARD. AND THE CHART YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, ALL WE'VE DONE IS GONE IN AND ANALYZED HOW CUSTOMERS ARE USING THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S COLORFUL, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S REALLY JUST A POLICY DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD THAT THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO LIKE TO SEE YOU HAVE WITH YOUR STAFF AND PROVIDE US SOME DIRECTION BEFORE NEXT YEAR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LOCALLY USING THAT MODEL? THERE ARE COUNTLESS LOCALLY USING THAT MODEL.

I DON'T HAVE THOSE SPECIFICS FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT I CAN GET YOU A BETTER COMPARISON TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

OKAY. OKAY.

FINALLY TONIGHT, STORMWATER WE DID GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT STORMWATER RATES THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, SAME, SAME TYPE OF COMPARISON.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU FALL RIGHT NOW YOU ARE AT $5 RIGHT NOW FOR STORMWATER SERVICE FOR A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER EVERY MONTH.

AND AGAIN ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE YOU CAN SEE AND HERE WE'RE USING 45 SINGLE FAMILY EQUIVALENT UNITS FOR THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, REALLY NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO STORMWATER AT THIS TIME.

YOU CAN SEE STORMWATER IS ACTUALLY PERFORMING VERY, VERY WELL AS AS WE GO INTO 2024.

AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOME MASTER PLAN, MASTER PLANNING ACTIVITY RELATIVE TO STORMWATER.

YOU DO HAVE A NUMBER OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HERE THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMED IN, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS YOU JUST HOLD THE LINE RIGHT NOW ON STORMWATER, WAIT FOR THE MASTER PLAN TO BE COMPLETED, WAIT FOR THAT FULL LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS TO COME IN, THEN LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND LET'S PROGRAM IT OUT FROM THERE AND SEE WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE RELATIVE TO FUNDING THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO AGAIN, NO RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE STORMWATER SIDE.

STAY WHERE YOU'RE AT.

LET'S SEE WHAT THE MASTER PLAN COMES IN.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS? OKAY. SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IS THERE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO INCREASE RECOMMENDED FOR STORMWATER, BUT FOR WATER AND SEWER, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO.

AND KAREN OR MS. RIGGS FOR OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS REFLECTED IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

YES, MA'AM. SO, WHAT WE PUT INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS OPTION ONE TO CASH FUND THAT $310,000 PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP ON THAT PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ANTICIPATE THE NEXT DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET PROCESS.

OKAY. I GUESS YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN JUST THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED US WITH YOUR NUMBERS AND YOUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. SO, THIS IS OUR THIS IS OUR LONE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HELLO AND GOODBYE.

ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

APPRECIATE THAT. CONGRATULATIONS FOR PICKING BEDFORD FOR YOUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING.

I AM SO SORRY THAT YOU PICKED BEDFORD FOR YOUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT UP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIVELY DISCUSSION REGARDING THE YMCA.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OFF TO OUR CITY MANAGER, JIMMY STATHATOS, TO KIND OF SET UP THIS DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAVE A THIS IS A VERY, VERY EXCITING TONIGHT.

AND I WANT TO MENTION COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI REQUESTED THIS ITEM AND WE HAD ALSO PLANNED ON HAVING QUARTERLY COUNCILS REQUEST QUARTERLY MEETINGS.

SO THIS WILL BE IN LIEU OF A QUARTERLY MEETING UNLESS THERE'S ONE THAT'S REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI REQUESTED THIS.

SO THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

TO START IT OFF, I'D LIKE TO CALL JOHN MICHAEL CORN WITH WITH THE Y.

THE FORMAT AFTER TALKING WITH THE MAYOR IS THE YMCA WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL CHIME IN, ASK QUESTIONS, WHAT HAVE YOU.

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EVERYONE'S HERE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

GREAT. SO IF I KNOW YOU HAD A PRESENTATION THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN COMING AND KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND THEN I THINK OUT OF ALL FAIRNESS, I'D LOVE FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPRESS OPINIONS AND AND ASK QUESTIONS AS WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

DO NOT MIND AT ALL. AND I THINK THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND I THINK EVERYONE IS INVESTED IN ITS SUCCESS. SO PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH US AS WE KIND OF EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S TRANSPIRED.

WELL, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF A PARTNERSHIP, ISN'T IT? VERY GOOD. AND WE'RE WE'RE INCREDIBLY.

POSITIVE ABOUT THIS RELATIONSHIP.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING.

EXCELLENT. WE ARE ABOUT.

JUST STARTED OUR EIGHTH MONTH TOGETHER SINCE THE OPENING AND THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD MILESTONES TO TALK ABOUT IN THAT EIGHT MONTHS.

WE WENT FROM 44,200 MEMBERS TO OVER 10,000, WHICH IS WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT.

MORE THAN DOUBLING IS IS AWESOME.

OUR RETENTION RATE IS A LITTLE OVER 60%, RIGHT AROUND 65%, ACTUALLY, WHICH IS WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT FOR A FOR A Y OR A COMMUNITY CENTER OF THAT SIZE.

USUALLY, THE RETENTION RATE HOVERS AROUND 50%.

WE ALSO HAVE A NET PROMOTER SCORE, WHICH IS KIND OF A POLLING GOES OUT TO FIND OUT HOW PEOPLE THINK.

AND WE ARE AT A 77% WHERE THE WHERE THE AVERAGE OF 50% OR BETTER IS CONSIDERED A REALLY GOOD THING.

SO, THE PARTNERSHIP HAS STARTED OFF WELL.

HAS IT STARTED OFF PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

AND WE'RE HERE TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AREAS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT AND TO TALK THROUGH THOSE THINGS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS CITY.

THE YMCA IS WE EXIST TO SERVE COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE DO REALLY WELL IN, AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE TAKE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD TO THRIVE AND TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY THE AMENITIES THAT WE DO BEST.

SO SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT A NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT IS COMMUNICATION.

WE ARE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO COMMUNICATE BETTER AND ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY TO WORK BETTER THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA EMAILS AND COMMUNITY UPDATES.

THE QUARTERLY MEETING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WE'VE ALSO STARTED A TUESDAY MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF MEMBERS FROM THE CITY, MARK AND KAREN, WHO BOTH ARE THERE TO REALLY GIVE A MARK OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE OTHER AREA IS, IS ONE THAT THAT THAT I GOT INVOLVED WITH A LITTLE ABOUT THREE, 3 OR 4 WEEKS AGO, AND THAT IS THE THE CLEANLINESS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE WORK REALLY HARD AT KEEPING OUR FACILITIES NICE.

WHAT HAPPENED, I BELIEVE, IS THAT SUMMER HAPPENED AND WHEN SUMMER HAPPENED, THE USAGE OF THAT BUILDING SKYROCKETED.

THE AMOUNT OF KIDS FROM DAY CAMP SKYROCKETED AND WE DID NOT REACT QUICK ENOUGH WITH CLEANING CREWS AND WITH MAINTENANCE CREWS. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE MEANTIME IS WE HAVE SINCE THAT CONVERSATION AND SINCE WE WALKED THE BUILDING AND SINCE WE WENT AND LOOKED AT THINGS AND SAID, YEP, THAT NEEDS TO BE BETTER.

WE HAVE TRIPLED OUR CLEANING CREWS, SO WE HAVE DAY PORTERS THERE NOW TOO, AT THE AT THE LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO THAT ALL RESTROOMS, MALE OR FEMALE, CAN BE CAN BE CLEANED AT ANY GIVEN POINT AND WITHOUT HAVING TO CLOSE DOWN FACILITIES.

THE OTHER THING THAT THAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES US AN OVERLAP FOR BUSY TIME.

SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THINGS.

WE'VE ALSO MADE SURE THAT THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THERE, CAROL ANN, WHO'S STANDING IN THE BACK, THAT HER CREWS AT THE AT THE MEMBERSHIP DESK AND ALSO THE CREWS THAT WORK THERE ARE DOING ROUTINE WALKTHROUGHS OF THE FACILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREAS ARE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

WE ALSO PUT PAUL SCHIRRMACHER, WHO IS THE IN CHARGE OF FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OF THE YMCA OF METROPOLITAN FORT WORTH IS OFFICING OUT OF BEDFORD? HE STARTED THAT ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW THAT THIS IS RESOLVED AND THAT THE STANDARD GOING FORWARD IS IS MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE

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PAUL HAS TAKEN CHASE, WHO IS THE MAINTENANCE GUY THERE, AND REMOVED HIM FROM FROM OPERATIONS THINGS TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE FACILITY, THE CLEANLINESS OF THE FACILITY, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY AND THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS ON A DAILY BASIS.

I THINK THAT THIS HAS SHOWN SOME DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT OVER THE PAST THREE WEEKS.

I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.

I KNOW THAT CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.

AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD HAVE HAVE INDICATED THAT THAT THAT THAT HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

PART OF THE REASON FOR PAUL BEING OUT THERE IS TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT.

THROUGH THE CHANGE OF THE SEASON AND HOW THAT LOOKS MOVING FORWARD AND TO ALSO TEACH CHASE AND THE STAFF THERE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS WELL.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE A THING THAT WILL HAPPEN.

I SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I SAY THAT KNOWING THAT THAT THIS.

WE'LL HAVE WEAR AND TEAR.

AND AND I WOULD SAY TO THE TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING, THAT THAT MEANS THE BUILDING IS BEING USED NOW NOW MISUSE THAT'S DIFFERENT. AND 200 KIDS, PARTICULARLY ALONG ONE WALL, HAD HAD A LOT OF FUN PICKING IT PAINT AND WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE KIDS IN THE PROGRAM AND OUR STAFF TO BE VIGILANT ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE FACILITY THAT'S IN THE USE BY THOSE KIDS, BUT ALSO OF MEMBERS WALKING THE FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS AND POINTING OUT THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND REPAIRING THOSE AS THEY AS THEY ARE NEEDED IS WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING.

SO, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP.

I I'M NOT ONE THAT THAT THAT THAT PULLS PUNCHES OR SHIRKS RESPONSIBILITY.

SO, I DON'T MIND HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND I DON'T MIND FOR ANSWERING FOR THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE FALTERED ON.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE WHERE WE WERE FOR OVER 160 YEARS IF WE WEREN'T GOOD AT WHAT WE DO, AND THAT COMMUNITIES SUCH AS BEDFORD WOULDN'T COME TO US IF WE COULDN'T PRODUCE WHEN WE SAY WE WILL.

SO PART OF A PARTNERSHIP IS BEING ABLE TO OWN UP AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT, HEY, WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DO BETTER HERE.

NO PROBLEM. WE CAN DO THAT.

SO. I ALSO WOULD BRING UP JAY IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PART OF THAT RIGHT NOW, HE CAN GO OVER THE FINANCES PART AND THEN WE'LL BOTH BE HERE FOR THE FOR THE QUESTIONS. OKAY.

HEY, JAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF THE FORECAST FOR THIS YEAR.

AND JUST CANDIDLY, THIS BEING OUR FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION, TRYING TO PROJECT OUT HOW THIS CALENDAR YEAR HAS GOT A FEW LITTLE UPS AND DOWNS AND TRYING TO SEE EXACTLY HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO FINISH.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A YEAR UNDER OUR BELT BEFORE WE CAN HAVE THE VISIBILITY THAT WE REALLY WANT TO VIEW HOW Q4 IS GOING TO BE.

BUT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MEMBERSHIP UNITS.

WE STARTED IN JANUARY AND WITH 692 PAYING MEMBERSHIP UNITS BY APRIL, WE WERE AT 2372.

BY JULY WE WERE AT 3428.

SO WE'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RAMP UP OUR NET REVENUES OVER EXPENSES IS IN JUST NORMAL OPERATIONS.

WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT $175,000 LOSS FOR THIS YEAR.

AND AGAIN, WE HAD TO RAMP UP IN UNITS DURING THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS.

BUT THERE'S A RANGE THERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND TRYING TO PROJECT OUT Q4.

AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAN CAN CAN GO WELL.

SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF RANGE.

BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER YEAR UNDER OUR BELT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SAY EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE YEAR.

THE $5 DISCOUNT COST HAS BEEN UTILIZED VERY WELL BY BY THE RESIDENTS.

OUR TOTAL OUR TOTAL PARTICIPATION BY BEDFORD RESIDENTS IS ABOUT 72 TO 73% DEPENDING ON THE MONTH.

SO THE $5 DISCOUNT COST HAS BEEN ABOUT $141,615 PROJECTED FOR THE FULL YEAR.

AND THEN EQUIPMENT FINANCE COST IS 151,861.

SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH THE PARTICIPATION.

THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN A FEW COSTS THAT HAVE ESCALATED SINCE WE FIRST TALKED AND SOME SOME INFLATION RELATIVE TO ENERGY AND STAFFING AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

BUT OVERALL, WE'VE BEEN HAPPY WITH THE FINANCES AND HAPPY WITH THE RAMP UP OF THE MEMBERSHIP UNITS AND EXCITED ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FUTURE.

I THINK OUR FINAL TWO QUARTERS IN TERMS OF FULL, YOU KNOW, REGULAR OPERATION ARE GOING TO BE BALANCED OR EVEN A LITTLE BIT SURPLUS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STAND FINANCIALLY.

OKAY. EXCELLENT. THAT'S GREAT TO GET THAT UPDATE AND WE CAN BOTH KIND OF HANG UP HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

NICHELLE, DO YOU MIND IF I KICK IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI FIRST? OKAY. SO THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE.

I'M GOING TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE OBVIOUSLY WERE INVESTED IN THIS IN THIS FACILITY AND IN YOUR BEING SUCCESSFUL.

I HOPE THAT THIS DISCUSSION WILL SHOW YOU HOW IMPORTANT THIS FACILITY IS TO US.

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SO IT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO EVERYONE'S HEART HERE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY.

ABSOLUTELY. I'D LIKE TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO KICK OFF THIS CONVERSATION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IF THIS IS THE LARGEST BOND IN THE CITY.

YES, SIR. THE CITY'S HISTORY.

$70 MILLION. SO, THE BUILDING IS ROUGHLY $58 MILLION.

I'M GOING TO SAY I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S RESPONSE.

I REALLY DO. I APPRECIATE THE RAMPING UP OF THE CLEANING AND Y'ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT THAT THAT LET'S LET'S THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT THEIR VOICES ARE BEING HEARD JUST AS A BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KICK A DEAD HORSE.

BUT JUST TO BRIEFLY MENTION WHAT HAPPENED IS I SOME INFORMATION WAS GOING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

I TOOK A TOUR OF THE YMCA AS A RESPONSE TO.

GOOD GRIEF, COCHRAN. THANK YOU, BOB.

JUST. OKAY.

SO IN RESPONSE TO SOME SOME POSTS ON THE INTERNET, THE VIEWPOINTS TO BE SPECIFICALLY AND SO I HAD A DAY OFF BECAUSE I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB, RIGHT.

THAT THAT'S HOW I PAY MY BILLS.

AND SO, I HAD A DAY OFF AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO HIT UP THE YMCA AND DO A QUICK TOUR.

I WAS THINKING 15, 20 MINUTES.

IT TURNED OUT TO BE AN HOUR AND A HALF.

AN HOUR AND A HALF TOUR WAS TURNED INTO A THREE-HOUR TOUR, ALMOST.

RIGHT. IT WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THANK YOU.

SO, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SHOCKING.

RIGHT? SO, I WORK. I WORK GROCERY, RETAIL.

AND SO, I WORK IN HIGH TRAFFIC FACILITIES AND JUST LIKE THE YMCA.

AND SO, I KNOW THE STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE KEPT HIGH IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO.

CAN YOU CONTINUE TO COME AND JOIN ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS BEFORE WE BUILT THE FACILITY SAID WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE TO DO.

IT HAS TO BE CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN.

AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOME OF OUR NOW GRANTED, WE OFFER A LOT FOR THE RATES THAT WE CHARGE, BUT OUR RATES ARE NOT ON THE LOW END.

BUT AGAIN, WE OFFER A LOT FOR IT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU HAVE A FACILITY LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN.

AND SO WHEN I WALKED IT, IT WASN'T.

AND THEN I DID TWO FOLLOW UPS.

AND WHILE THERE WAS PROGRESS, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE IT, HOPEFULLY NOW THERE WILL BE A HEAVIER, HEAVIER PROGRESS WITH THE WITH THE INCREASE OF THE WITH THE INCREASE OF THE CLEANING STAFF. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE OF OF CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER STATHATOS AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS, RIGGS AND ROY AND MARK LONG FOR GOING GOING ALONG ON SOME OF THOSE TOURS.

SO I DO I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING WITH, OF COURSE THE BUILDING WILL HAVE WEAR AND TEAR AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? THAT MEANS IT'S BEING USED. ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S GREAT. BUT IF IT'S SIX MONTHS OLD AND IT'S $58 MILLION, IT SHOULD PROBABLY NOT TEAR DOWN THAT QUICK.

IT SHOULD HAVE WEAR STILL.

BUT LET ME BE LET ME BE FRANK.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WHEN A SEASON HAPPENS AND ESPECIALLY, CAN WE TRADE PLACES, IS THAT BETTER? SO ESPECIALLY A HIGH A HIGH-VOLUME SEASON LIKE THE SUMMER WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING IN 200 PLUS CHILDREN TO BE TO BE HOUSED THERE DOING DAY CAMP? THE WEAR AND TEAR IS GOING TO BE VISIBLE.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SCUFF MARKS ON THE WALL.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE PLACES THAT THAT LOOK MORE USED THAN THEY WOULD NORMALLY.

BUT BUT AT THE END OF THE SUMMER WHEN THEY GO BACK TO SCHOOL, WE ALSO BUDGET TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.

SO WE GO THROUGH AND BUDGET THE AREAS THAT ARE HIGH USE AND WE WE REPAINT, WE PATCH, WE DO THOSE THINGS SO THAT THE BUILDING AT THE END OF THE SEASON IS PUT BACK TO WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON NOW.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. MY WIFE IS AN EDUCATOR AND WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY TO THAT IS AS I GO INTO THAT SCHOOL MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR, IT HONESTLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S HOLDING UP A LITTLE BETTER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A STAFFING ISSUE OR WHATNOT, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST GOT TO FOCUS AND KEEP IT LOOKING NICE.

YEAH, FOR SURE, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THAT HIGH TRAFFIC SCHOOLS FULL OF KIDS.

AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR AGAIN ON THE RECORD, WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO US WAS ABSOLUTELY VALID.

AND AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WERE THERE TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN WHEN YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE DOING THE WALK THROUGH THAT THAT BUILDING SHOULD NOT HAVE LOOKED THE WAY THAT IT LOOKED, ESPECIALLY THE ONE CORRIDOR WALL.

THE CLEANLINESS WAS NOT WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.

I'M ABSOLUTELY SAYING YOU ARE 100% CORRECT THERE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS I APPRECIATE THE PARTNER COMING TO US AND SAYING, LOOK, THIS ISN'T ACCEPTABLE.

I NEED IT FIXED.

AND AS TO WHY WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.

AND SO, I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I REALLY DO. AND JUST AS JUST A SIDE COMMENT AS WE WERE GOING OVER THE NUMBERS, THE PROJECTED BECAUSE, LISTEN, I WANT THIS PARTNERSHIP TO WORK, TOO, RIGHT?

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AND WE PROJECTED THE CITY PROJECTED TO SPEND JUST SHORT OF $300,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

AND THIS YEAR IT'S 175, 175 FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AMAZING.

AND THAT ULTIMATELY SAVES TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHY WE WANT TO DO THE PARTNERSHIP.

SO AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE TO IT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COMMUNICATION MOVING FORWARD TO THE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MARK LONG, AND AND WITH THE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S RESPONSE.

I REALLY DO. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MY QUESTIONS WERE REALLY ON THE FINANCES.

AND SO, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE SOME OF THE EXPENSES WHERE I THINK YOU DID TALK ABOUT RAMP UP OF SALARY EXPENSES AND ONBOARDING STAFF.

SO, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE FIRST QUARTER VERSUS THE THIRD QUARTER FORECAST, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING IN TERMS OF STAFFING? IS THAT INCLUDING THE CLEANING CREW OR WHAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE INCREASE INCREASES IN Q3 AND Q4? WELL, THERE'S A BIG INCREASE FROM Q2 TO Q3.

Q3 FORECAST IS AN INCREASE AND THEN Q4 FORECAST LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEVELING OFF.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING LIKE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN Q3 COMPARED TO WHEN WE FIRST OPENED.

WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING, I THINK A LOT OF THE Q3 LIKE BUMP UPS END UP BEING RELATIVE TO THE OUTDOOR WATER PARK.

SO JUST THOSE LIKE THE LIFEGUARD AND EXPENSE THERE.

SO THAT'S REALLY SO I KNOW Q3 KIND OF STICKS OUT A LITTLE BIT LIKE A SORE THUMB, BUT THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE THAT SORT OF EXTENDS THE OPERATION WAS THE BIG THING.

SO AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH MARKETING AND PROMOTIONS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE IN Q3 AND Q4, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE MORE MEMBERSHIP DUES.

AND SO, IN THIS QUARTER, ARE WE PLANNING TO MARKET MORE PEOPLE TO COME USE THE Y? AND THAT'S WHAT'S THE RATIONALE OF THOSE INCREASED COSTS? TO THEN CONTRIBUTE TO THE INCREASED FORECAST OF REVENUE? WELL, I GUESS FOR Q3 AND Q4, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS OUR MEMBERSHIP REALLY GOT TO ITS PEAK LEVELS.

AND SO, AS THEY'RE PAYING THEN THEN WE'RE AT A GOOD LEVEL.

WHEREAS IN JANUARY WE STARTED WITH JUST ABOUT 700 UNITS, SO WE MATURED.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CHALLENGING TO TO BE CANDID RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'LL BE HARD TO SAY HOW MANY MEMBERS WILL LEAVE US ONCE THE ONCE THE OUTDOOR WATER PARK CLOSES.

SO, WE WILL WE'LL MAKE A SHORT COMMERCIAL.

PLEASE STAY WITH US DURING EVEN ONCE THE OUTDOOR WATER PARK CLOSES.

BUT THAT'S THE HARDEST PART TO REALLY PROJECT, IS THAT Q4 IS HOW MUCH LEVELING OFF THAT WILL HAVE OR WILL THERE BE A RAMP UP OR WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO STAY? SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT BUT REALLY NOT AS MUCH INCREASED MARKETING TO ADD.

WE'LL MARK IT TO ADD, BUT JUST HAVING THOSE LEVELS BE AT THAT POINT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.

WE REALLY DO. AND IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE USED TO THIS NORMALLY, PROBABLY YOUR MEMBERS WOULD COMPLAIN TO YOU ABOUT THIS STUFF.

BUT THIS BEING A CITY FACILITY, THEY COME TO THE COUNCIL AND WE GET ALL THE THE COMPLAINTS AND WE DO IT WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND YEAH, THIS IS OUR 60 MILLION DOLLAR BABY.

IT'S BRAND NEW. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO DO TOURS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, WE APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.

AND I KNOW IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND CONTINUING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP IT UP AND DOING THAT.

WE APPRECIATE THE QUICK RESPONSE, AND WE LOOK LIKE COUNCILMAN GAGLIARDI SAID WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GREAT, GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE WANT THIS TO WORK.

SO JUST I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE BEING IN A FISHBOWL.

EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, STEVE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YMCA.

DAN OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LET ME I KNOW YOU'RE UNDER FIRE HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK OR.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN ASKED. OKAY.

OKAY. LET ME SET THE TABLE THEN.

SO LET ME SAY THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK FRANKLY.

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THIS BOND PASSED BY 67 VOTES.

THIS WAS CONTROVERSIAL BEFORE WE EVER BROKE GROUND.

SO IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS GET THIS RIGHT.

THIS IS A LEAP OF FAITH.

THIS CITY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF NOT KNOWING WHETHER IT WANTED TO GET INTO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, ABOUT GETTING ABOUT HANDING OVER THE REINS TO CITY FACILITIES, TO OTHER AGENCIES. THIS WAS A CHALLENGE DECISION, AND NOT EVERYONE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE CITY PARTNERING WITH THE Y.

LET'S BE REAL.

SO THAT MAKES Y'ALL'S DECISION MAKING AND YOUR ACTIONS THAT MUCH MORE CRUCIAL TO GET IT RIGHT.

I'M ONLY GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL.

FAILURE TO GET IT RIGHT WILL RESULT IN CONSEQUENCES.

I JUST WANT TO BE BLUNT WITH YOU GUYS.

NOW, I STILL BELIEVE YOU ALL ARE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

I STILL BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE 160 YEARS WORTH OF HISTORY OF HOW TO DO THIS, AND YOU ALL SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS WAY BETTER THAN THE CITY CAN.

BUT WE HAVE OUR LIMITS WITH RESPECT TO HOW MUCH WE'RE WILLING TO STAND BY AND WATCH THE FACILITY DETERIORATE BECAUSE WE'VE HANDED YOU A DIAMOND AND YOU HAVE TO POLISH IT.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THE RESIDENTS OF BEDFORD.

THIS IS THE THE DIAMOND.

I KNOW YOU ALL CAN DO IT.

SO JUST DO IT.

ALL RIGHT. DAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR.

I CAN KEEP TALKING. NO, NO, YOU'VE HIT ALL THE HIGH POINTS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T HERE FOR PRESENTATION.

EXCUSE MY TARDINESS. IT IS.

MEET THE TEACHER AND HEB, SO I HAD TO TEND TO SOME STUDENTS.

YOU TEXTED ME FROM THE BAR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.

YEAH, RIGHT. BUT, MAYOR, I THINK YOU'VE SAID IT ALL.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY FOLLOW UP? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. JIMMY STATHATOS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO WRAP ON THIS? I DO. KAREN, CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP? WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.

IT WON'T BE VERY LONG. IT'S, I KNOW CLEANLINESS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN ITEMS, BUT THE FINANCIAL STORY, IT'S.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS REALLY PUSHED HARD WAS COST RECOVERY.

AND SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE COUNCIL THEN ON THE COUNCIL NOW ARE PROBABLY DOING MENTAL BACKFLIPS BECAUSE THIS HAS FAR EXCEEDED ANYONE'S EXPECTATIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE CURRENT COUNCIL WAS GIVEN A BUSINESS PLAN, IF YOU WILL, A PRO FORMA THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 19 THAT BASICALLY SAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN OVER A NINE STARTED WITH THE WORDS YOU'RE SCREWED.

EXACTLY. AND THEN SOME PRAYERS, I THINK, YEAH, IT WAS GOING TO BE OVER A $900,000 DEFICIT AND THE RATES WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER.

AND I DON'T WANT TO STEAL KAREN'S THUNDER, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING OFF THAT EASY.

I'M ALMOST DONE. BUT THE RATES FOR THE BRAC AND SPLASH WERE ACTUALLY MORE THAN THIS FULL FACILITY, THE OLD BRAC.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE, WHICH ARE GREAT.

BUT I'LL SAY PUBLICLY, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT NOT LIKE BET MY JOB CONFIDENT.

I THINK I'LL BET I'M HAPPY TO BET ROB'S JOB CONFIDENT BUT YOUR VOLUNTEER JOB ROB BEDFORD PAYCHECK.

YES. I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAVE ANOTHER $75,000.

I REALLY DO. NO ONE WANTS TO.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY EMPIRICAL DATA FROM LAST YEAR.

SO, IT'S ALL IT IS PROJECTIONS, BUT IT'S A LOT OF SPECULATION.

AND SO, WE'RE ALL BEING CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO COME BACK WITH GOOD NEWS THAN TO COME BACK WITH BAD NEWS.

BUT ARE WE NOT MISSING THE POINT THAT THE $5 KICK IN? ROUGHLY EQUATES TO 175,000.

YEAH, IT'S 140.

150 OF THE 175.

YES, SIR. AND SO THE GOOD THING IS THE MORE MEMBERS, THAT'S GREAT, BUT THE MORE BEDFORD MEMBERS THE MORE WE OFFSET IT.

BUT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO KAREN.

I JUST WANTED TO TEE THAT UP.

SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO MONUMENTAL FROM WHEN I FIRST STARTED THAT I THINK ANYONE THAT WAS ON COUNCIL THEN AND ANYONE NOW IS THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO GET YMCA TATTOOS. BUT GO AHEAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THAT WELL.

SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GET UP HERE AND KIND OF SHOW YOU THE COST COMPARISON ON THE MEMBERSHIPS VERSUS WHAT WAS PROPOSED BY PROS CONSULTING, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE BUILT THIS CENTER.

BUT ALSO, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THAT, I DO JUST WANT TO GIVE THE STAFF A HUGE KUDOS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM WEEKLY JUST TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI BROUGHT UP.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO LISTENING TO US AND COMING UP WITH A GAME PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO THIS POSITION AGAIN.

[00:50:02]

SO, SO, YES.

SO THE FIRST SLIDE IS JUST KIND OF A COMPARISON OF ONE TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE SAME SLIDE.

THANK YOU. SO THAT FIRST COLUMN, THESE WERE THE RATES THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THE PRO FORMA THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY PROS CONSULTING.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE RATES THAT ARE TODAY AT THE Y, INCLUDING THE $5 DISCOUNT.

AND KIND OF THAT THIRD COLUMN JUST SHOWS YOU THE SAVINGS.

SO, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE JUST ON THE VERY TOP ONE FROM AN ADULT RESIDENT, PROS CONSULTING WAS COMING IN SAYING THAT WE SHOULD CHARGE $49 A MONTH AND THE WHY WE'RE CHARGING 33 SO WE'RE AT A $16 SAVINGS JUST ON AN ADULT RESIDENT MEMBER.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAMILY, IT'S KIND OF A FAMILY MEMBER.

FAMILY RESIDENT WAS 94, CURRENTLY AT 57, AND WE'RE AT A 37 SAVINGS ON THAT FAMILY BY GOING WITH THE Y.

THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SAME MONTHLY RATES, THE SAME YMCA RATES, BUT ALSO WHAT THE RATES WERE.

THE ONE CAVEAT WITH THE BRAC IS IT DOES INCLUDE THE SPLASH.

BUT HOWEVER, THE SPLASH DIDN'T HAVE YOUTH OR SENIOR MEMBERSHIP, SO IT KIND OF SKEWS IT A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING UPON WHICH COLUMN YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT IT JUST KIND OF GOES TO SHOW YOU AGAIN, THAT COMPARISON.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADULT RESIDENT, SORRY, I NEED LIKE BIFOCALS SO I CAN READ THE SCREEN.

AND THIS I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN YOU DO THIS.

I KNOW. YEAH.

THANKS. THAT'S GREAT.

SO I THINK THERE'S THERE'S A MISNOMER OUT THERE ABOUT THE BRAC BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE IN THE CALCULATIONS.

AGREED. WELL AND THAT JUST LOOKING AT AGAIN THE BEDFORD ADULT RESIDENT AND EVEN THE FAMILY YOU CAN JUST SEE THE COST COMPARISON FROM WHERE WE WERE AT THE BRAC TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE WOULD BE IF WE WERE RUNNING THE FACILITY.

YOU BASICALLY HAD TWO LARGE STONES YOU COULD LIFT TO DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO WALK.

YOU HAD LIKE SOME RUBBER BELTS TO HELP YOU WITH RESISTANCE.

EXACTLY, YES.

SO WE PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW.

ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU KIND OF OPERATIONAL EXPENSES AND REVENUES.

SO THAT VERY FIRST LINE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE FINAL YEAR REVENUES AND EXPENSES.

AND THE NET COST WAS WE WERE AT A LOSS OF 566 IF WE RAN IT BASED ON THE PRO FORMA NUMBERS DONE BY A PROS CONSULTING, WE WERE LOOKING AT A $900,000 LOSS WHEN WHEN THE YMCA DID THEIR PROPOSAL.

WHAT DO YOU SEE THERE? THAT WAS BASED ON 2300 MEMBERS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BECAUSE WE'RE AT SUCH A HIGHER NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAN WHERE WE WERE ORIGINALLY PROJECTING TO BE FOR 2023.

SO JUST FROM A HIGH LEVEL, IF THE CITY RAN IT BASED ON THE PRO FORMA, WE'D BE AT A LOSS OF A LITTLE OVER 9 MILLION COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE WISE PARTNERSHIP. SO I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES JUST TO WHERE WE ARE.

JIMMY, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THIS SIDE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ON THIS ONE? I'LL JUST BRIEFLY AND LET ME SAY, IF ANYONE WANTS TO COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION, JUST LET US KNOW.

IF YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, PLEASE.

AT THE BOTTOM, THE ASTERISK.

ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THE $5 RESIDENT FEE.

THE RESIDENT RATE DISCOUNT.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.

BUT IF YOU ALL RECALL, THAT WAS REALLY TO KICK START THE MEMBERSHIPS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND IS THAT AS OF JANUARY 1ST, ANY NEW MEMBERS THAT THEY WOULD NOT GET THAT $5 DISCOUNT.

ANYONE THAT HAS A MEMBERSHIP OBVIOUSLY WOULD KEEP THAT DISCOUNT.

WE THINK THAT WILL BE A WAY TO RAMP UP MEMBERSHIP AND TO RETAIN MEMBERSHIP.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WE'LL BRIEF YOU WITH THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, BUT I WANTED TO MENTION IT.

THE OTHER THING IS THE EQUIPMENT LEASE.

YOU ALL MAY RECALL WE'VE ALL SLEPT SINCE THEN.

WE HAD RECOMMENDED LEASING THE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF WARRANTY MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT I WANT TO STRESS IT WAS AROUND $300,000 THAT WE HAD TO PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT.

YOU ALL STILL HAVE THAT IN PROJECT SAVINGS FOR GENERATIONS.

PARK I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT WENT AWAY.

SO I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.

YEAH. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS GREAT SEGWAY IS I THINK THE LEASE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, CAME IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY EXPECTING, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THAT ON THAT ON THE WISE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY EXPECTING BASED ON JUST LEASE TERMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND BACK THEN YOU HAD SUPPLY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE OTHER LET ME SAY THIS REAL QUICK.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF ANYBODY WANTED IT, IT PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA JUST TO GO ON AND POST IT ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING.

YES, SIR. GOOD IDEA.

SO THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON OF OUR FACILITY COMPARED TO OTHER AREA FACILITIES.

AND I WAS KIND OF LOOKING OVER THIS EARLIER.

AND REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT I WOULD THINK KELLER POINT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH WHERE WE ARE JUST BECAUSE OF THE BASE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FACILITY AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR AQUATICS THAT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE.

AND SO YOU COMPARE FEES BASED ON THAT AND YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY KIND OF AND THIS WAS BASED ON, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

[00:55:09]

OH, NO, THIS. I'M SORRY. THESE RATES ARE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE JUST HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER FACILITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE.

AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH THOSE OTHER FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE AN OUTDOOR AQUATICS FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF IN THE DESIGN AND THE EARLY DISCUSSION WAS BASED ON THE NORTH RICHLAND HILLS FACILITY.

SO, IT'S INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE COMPARISONS.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE AS WELL.

THE DIFFERENCE WITH THAT FACILITY, THOUGH, AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE AN OUTDOOR AQUATICS.

YEAH. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THE FINANCES OR THE FEES OR ANYTHING? COUNCIL MEMBER. GAGLIARDI. YES.

WELL, JUST SO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

SO ON THE SOUTH, THE SOUTH LAKE, THE MARK WITH THE CHAMPIONS CLUB, THAT SOUNDS FANCY, 82,000FT² AND IT ONLY COSTS A 1.64 TO OPERATE IT.

WHY IS THAT SO LOW? SO IT COULD BE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT COULD BE. WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE AN OUTDOOR AQUATICS FACILITY FOR ONE.

SO THAT COULD BE DRIVING PART OF THAT.

THE OTHER THING, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS NECESSARILY INSIDE OF THAT FACILITY.

DO THEY HAVE AN INDOOR AQUATICS? I DON'T SEE THAT ANALYSIS HERE.

SO THERE COULD BE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE DRIVING THAT.

AND I CAN SEE IF I CAN DIG INTO THEIR BUDGET TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

BUT BECAUSE SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, I MEAN, IT'S SIMILAR AND I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S ALSO NICE.

SO MY MEMORY OF THAT FACILITY IS IT'S NOT AS CREATIVELY DESIGNED AS OURS IS.

THAT SEEMS TO HAVE MORE MULTI USE SPACE THAT IS MORE SINGLE, STORIED AND CONVERTIBLE TO LITTLE CONCERTS, LITTLE DANCES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THAT KIND OF SPACE, A LOT OF DANCES.

THEY APPARENTLY DO OKAY, NOT AS MANY AS WE DO, BUT THEY HAVE SENIOR DANCES.

OKAY. ARE THERE SENIORS IN SOUTH LAKE? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY. SO ANYWAY, MOVING ON, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO, THAT'S FASCINATING. THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE, INFORMATION, MISUNDERSTOOD INFORMATION THAT THIS IS THIS IS VALUABLE TO SEE THIS. GOOD.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

I REAL QUICK, JAY, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHILE WE GOT YOU? DO YOU MIND IF WE.

COME ON. SO SINCE YOU'RE THE KEEPER OF ALL DATA.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RETENTION RATES, BOTH YOU AND JOHN MICHAEL AND YOU SAID RETENTION RATES ARE 65% ISH SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S HIGHER THAN YOUR NORM, YOUR NORMS AND THE 50% HIGHER THAN THE INDUSTRY NORM.

SO BY INDUSTRY, WE'RE TALKING NATIONWIDE.

YEAH. AND ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE SIMILAR FACILITIES, LARGE, LARGE FACILITIES LIKE THAT.

NOT JUST WHY OR JUST WHY NOT JUST WHY NOT JUST.

SO THAT'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD PERIOD.

THE YOU TALKED ABOUT BEDFORD RESIDENCE WAS ABOUT 72 TO 73% OF THE PARTICIPATION.

HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH YOUR DATA FROM YOUR OTHER FACILITIES? IT'S HIGHER.

WE WERE WE'RE IN THE 63% RANGE IN BENBROOK, WHICH IS THAT'S WHERE I LIVE NEAR THE BENBROOK YMCA.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

HOOD COUNTY IS A COUNTY WIDE ONE, SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF GRANBURY.

SO OUR PARTICIPATION IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.

ARE WE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE KICKED IN A $5 OR SOMETHING LIKE A $5 TO HELP WITH THOSE RATES? HAS ANYONE ELSE? DONE THAT. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE.

OKAY. SO THAT COULD BE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE THINK.

IT'S GOTTEN GOOD PARTICIPATION FROM THE RESIDENTS.

BUT THAT'S HELPED. AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

YOU'VE BEEN THERE EIGHT MONTHS NOW.

OBSERVATIONS, UNIQUE CHALLENGES.

YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE WHAT FINANCIALLY OR JUST AT ALL OPERATIONALLY AS WELL? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS AND YOU CAN ANSWER AS WELL, WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE RECRUITING LIFEGUARDS AND WE NEED EVERYBODY HERE THAT KNOWS SOMEBODY THAT THAT WOULD LIKE TO LIFEGUARD.

IT IS A GREAT FIRST JOB.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO US TO LIFEGUARD, YOU KNOW, WILL ASK THEM IN INTERVIEWS, WHAT WOULD WE SAY TO YOU? THAT'S A PRODUCT OF THE WORK ENVIRONMENT WE'VE GOT GOING ON NOW.

EVERYONE'S HAVING THAT PROBLEM.

YES. YEAH. SO I COULD SEE WHY WE'VE GOT TO STAY AFTER IT.

BUT PARTICULARLY WITH THE LIFEGUARD POSITION, JUST THE VOLUME AND THEN THE NEED.

SO WHAT ABOUT ANY CHALLENGES WITH THE FACILITY YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE? NO, THE FACILITY IS VERY WELL DESIGNED.

THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME TRADE PLACE AGAIN.

OH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. SORRY.

I'M THE BIGGEST CRITIC OF THAT IS SITTING RIGHT THERE ABOUT GETTING NEAR THE MICROPHONE.

I'VE BEEN BOOSTING YOU, TOO.

SO THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST.

[01:00:02]

AND IT'S GORGEOUS.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY FROM AN OPERATIONS STANDPOINT THAT WE LOOKED AT AND THIS WAS WITH SUNBELT POOLS, WHO BUILT THE POOL WAS THE WAS THE CHANGE OUT OF THE OF THE CHLORINATION SYSTEM TO GO FROM A FROM A TANK CHLORINATOR TO A TO A SALT CHLORINATOR AND THAT GAVE US THAT GAVE US SOME ISSUES AT THE FRONT.

THOSE WERE ALL WARRANTY ISSUES.

THEY WERE ALL DONE BY THE BY THE MANUFACTURER AND THE AND THE INSTALLER OF THE POOL EQUIPMENT.

BUT WE HAD THREE MOTORS THAT THAT WENT OUT, ONE RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER, PUMP MOTORS THAT WENT OUT, ONE RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER, ALL UNDER WARRANTY, ALL REPLACED FOR FREE.

I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH WITH FOLK FROM THE CITY ABOUT THE DECISION TO TO TO TO TO CHANGE THAT OUT AND THAT IF IT COST THE CITY ANY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THE TANK SYSTEM WAS GOING TO ORIGINALLY COST, THAT WE WOULD COVER THAT NOT IN THE CHARGES TO THE CITY THAT THE WHY WOULD THE WHY WOULD COVER THAT AND THAT WILL SAVE MONEY EVERY YEAR AFTER THIS YEAR AS WELL.

I THINK THIS YEAR WILL BE A BREAK EVEN.

I THINK EVERY YEAR AFTER THIS I KNOW EVERY YEAR AFTER THIS WILL BE THE COST SAVINGS.

SO, JAY, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THE MEMBERSHIPS.

WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR FROM A MEMBERSHIP STANDPOINT BASED ON YOUR NORMAL DATA THAT YOU'VE SEEN FROM YOUR OTHER FACILITIES? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE TO ASK THE CITY FOR MONEY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW WE MANAGE THE $5 DISCOUNT AND SUCH.

BUT HISTORICALLY, WHEN YOU'VE TAKEN OVER NEW FACILITIES IS THE SECOND YEAR YOU HAVE A LARGER MEMBERSHIP.

LARGER MEMBERSHIP POOL IN THE FIRST YEAR? I WOULD SAY NO.

I WOULD SAY WE WE PROBABLY HIT A PEAK AT ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.

AND THEN CERTAIN PEOPLE WHEN YOU KNOW, THE NEW AND SHINY OR NOT THE NEW AND SHINY WEARS OFF.

BUT WHEN THEY WANT TO STOP WORKING OUT OR WHATEVER.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADE OFF.

I HAVE SOME HOPES THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN WHERE WE'RE AT AND WORK HARD TO DO THAT.

BUT I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY ARE AT OUR PEAK RIGHT NOW IF I'M IF I'M CANDID, OKAY, BECAUSE OF SUMMER, BECAUSE OF AQUATICS, ALL THAT, I HOPE I'M SURPRISED WE'LL WORK AT IT.

AND I THINK THIS FACILITY WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER THAN OUR OTHER PLACES.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IS YOU HAVE AN OUTDOOR WATER PARK THAT'S SPECTACULAR AND AND THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO DRIVE SUMMER TO BE BUSIER.

SO, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL, AS JAY SAID, OUR GOAL IS TO IS TO IS TO IF WE ARE WORKING FROM TODAY THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST TO NOT ASK YOU FOR ANY MONEY THIS YEAR, IT WON'T HAPPEN.

I WISH IT WOULD AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

BUT OUR GOAL IS TO BEAT THAT THREE YEAR, THAT THREE YEAR PLAN AS SOON AS WE CAN.

WELL, LOGICALLY, JUST BEING HONEST HERE, IF IF YOU CAME BACK THIS TIME NEXT YEAR AND WE'RE AT THE SAME MEMBERSHIP LEVEL, IT SHOULD MEAN LESS MONEY TO US.

BECAUSE IF YOU PRORATE THE MEMBERSHIPS, EVERYONE HASN'T BEEN HERE FOR THE ENTIRE EIGHT MONTHS, WHEREAS NEXT YEAR AT THE SAME PERIOD THEY WILL BE.

SO THE COST TO US WILL BE LESS.

YEAH. IF YOU HOLD THE LINE, WE SAVE MONEY.

ABSOLUTELY. OUR REVENUE NEXT YEAR WILL BE HIGHER THAN THIS YEAR.

YEAH. OKAY.

ONE FINAL QUESTION.

MANPOWER. YOU HAD AN ESTIMATE GOING INTO THIS PROJECT THAT IT WAS GOING TO.

YOU WERE GOING TO NEED X AMOUNT OF HOURS MANPOWER WISE.

HAS THAT CHANGED FROM YOUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES ACTUALITY TO WHAT YOUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS? DO YOU HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF BODIES WORKING TODAY THAT YOU ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED? WHEN YOU DO A PRO FORMA NO.

SO NO, WE MORE OR LESS WE HAD MORE IN THE SPRING AND PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED AS MANY AS WE SEASONAL ADJUSTED AND PROBABLY OVER ADJUSTED IN THE SPRING.

OKAY. THIS SUMMER WE WERE TIGHT.

MOST OF THAT WAS AQUATICS.

OKAY. WE HAD ENOUGH STAFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER, ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS WE HAD HIRED.

WE HAD WORKED REALLY HARD TO TO NOT BE IN A LIFEGUARD SHORTAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER AND HAD DONE REALLY WELL.

BUT BUT THE WORKFORCE CHANGED WITHIN 30 DAYS.

SO WE WE'RE CONSTANTLY HIRING LIFEGUARDS AND RUNNING LIFEGUARD CLASSES.

BUT THIS SUMMER WAS PROBABLY THE THIRD QUARTER WILL PROBABLY BE RIGHT.

RIGHT ON. AS FAR AS AS FAR AS MANPOWER GOES.

I SEE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY LAST QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, JIMMY? ANYTHING? NO, SIR.

THANK YOU ALL. OKAY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING. WE WANT TO COME INTO THE LION'S DEN.

YOU ALLOWED US TO GET.

BUT I MEAN, I AGAIN, I WANT TO EXPRESS THIS IS VITALLY IMPORTANT.

ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS A POINT OF PRIDE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WE APPRECIATE THIS PARTNERSHIP MORE THAN WE CAN SAY.

THIS IS WHO WE ARE AS AN ORGANIZATION.

THIS IS WHO YOU ARE AS A CITY AND IT IS A GEM.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TREAT IT AS A GEM.

AND WHENEVER WE DON'T, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE UP THERE HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AND I ANSWER IT ANY TIME AND I WILL RESPOND AND SO WILL JAY, AND SO WILL CAROLYN, AND SO WILL

[01:05:01]

SO AND THAT IS THE TRUTH.

WE WE REALLY WANT TO BE HERE WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DO AND WHO WE ARE.

AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP AND WE DON'T MIND HAVING HARD CONVERSATIONS AND WE DON'T MIND COMING BACK AND DOING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE THAT. JIMMY, I WANT TO I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH RESPECT TO MONITORING HOW THAT FACILITY LOOKS? WHAT ARE WE DOING DIFFERENT NOW? WE'RE HAVING WEEKLY MEETINGS.

I THINK THAT'S HUGE.

I THINK THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MANAGEMENT IN PLACE IS VERY, VERY POSITIVE AND VERY PROACTIVE.

I JUST THINK IT WAS A BIG WAKE UP CALL.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES.

I TELL PEOPLE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF SOMEONE WALKED THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SOMEONE WALKED THROUGH THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THERE WERE ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE KEY IS BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND HOW WE RESPOND.

SO IT'S THE SAME FOR THEM.

AND BUT WE'LL BE MEETING WEEKLY TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T SLIP, QUITE FRANKLY.

EXCELLENT. COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.

WASN'T THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A BOARD? YEAH, THERE'S A BOARD, BUT IT'S Y'ALL CAN NOMINATE UP TO FOUR PEOPLE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING OF THE BOARD.

WHEN WE ANNOUNCED BEFORE IT WAS CYCLICAL AND IT WASN'T TIME FOR NOMINATIONS.

DO Y'ALL KNOW OFFHAND FOR THAT TIMING? WELL, LET ME SAY THIS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE WE'RE THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN SEPTEMBER.

SO IF WE CAN GET THAT JUMP STARTED BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT BEING A PART OF THAT BOARD.

SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.

SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE.

PERFECT. YEAH, PERFECT.

SEPTEMBER 26TH.

GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT YOU ALL ON, I SAID SOMETHING.

I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.

DON'T SCREW THIS UP.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT WITH YOU GUYS.

LET'S NOT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN.

WE WON'T. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANKS. OKAY.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

DO I HAVE TO READ? OH, WE GOT A FEW. DO I HAVE TO READ THIS THING? OKAY, WE DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ORDER TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PERSON FIRST MUST FIRST SIGN IN WITH CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE REGULAR SESSION BEING CALLED TO ORDER.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGN IN.

ANY PERSON NOT SIGNING IN PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE REGULAR SESSION SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

SHOULD SPEAKERS NOT USE THE ENTIRE 30 MINUTES? COUNCIL WILL PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA AT THE MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.

THE MAYOR MAY EXTEND THE TIME ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO FIRST UP, WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. TOM JACOBSON.

I SAW IT. WELCOME BACK, TOM.

I WAS PLANNING FOR AN HOUR DISCUSSION, BUT I GUESS THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

30 MINUTES.

AND BY THE WAY, I RECOGNIZE YOU LEAVE THE BUILDING AND START TALKING TO YOURSELF.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I DO THAT A LOT.

BY THE WAY, I REALIZE I'M TAKING TOM COLBERT'S NORMAL SPOT, SO I APOLOGIZE TO HIM IN ADVANCE.

HE'S NEXT UP. I KNOW.

TOM JACOBSON 1632 BEDFORDSHIRE STREET.

BEEN A BEDFORD RESIDENCE FOR 24 YEARS.

I PLAN TO PLAY MY ROLE AS A BEDFORD USER, A HEAVY USER OF THE YMCA.

MY WIFE AND I BOTH ARE THERE 2 TO 3 TIMES A WEEK.

AND SO WE LOVE THE FACILITY AND WE WE SEE SOME OF ITS GOOD THINGS AND SOME OF ITS BAD THINGS.

AND JUST FOR BACKGROUND, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FORT WORTH.

WHY? I WAS A MEMBER FOR TEN YEARS.

THE DALLAS YMCA FOR FIVE, OUR OWN 24 HOUR FITNESS FOR 22 YEARS AND LA FITNESS FOR THREE AND A HALF.

AND SOME PEOPLE SAY I'VE GOT A PERSONAL PROBLEM, BUT I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCES IN GYMS. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ADD THOSE NUMBERS AND REACH A CONCLUSION.

NO, THEY'RE REAL.

OKAY. BUT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE A NUMBER OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO REPEAT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, THIS GYM HAS BEEN IN SERVICE FOR ONLY SEVEN MONTHS.

I KNOW WE'RE SETTING A HIGH STANDARD, BUT IT'S ONLY SEVEN MONTHS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WITH RESPECT TO VOLUME, I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND I THINK THERE WERE A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT GOT IT WRONG.

WHAT IF WE BUILT THIS FACILITY AND NOBODY CAME? I REALLY DIDN'T THINK WE'D SEE WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

IT'S THE BAD NEWS.

BUT I AM PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT THE RESPONSE.

THE $700,000 PLUS SAVING.

[01:10:02]

AND BY THE WAY, I CHECKED WITH THE Y STAFF YESTERDAY.

THEY INDICATED WE HAVE 13,000 MEMBERS THAT NEXT TO GRAPEVINE, WE'RE THE ONLY PLACE THAT HAS THAT MANY MEMBERS.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FALL OFF RATE IS GOING TO BE, BUT THAT'S SIGNIFICANT AND IT'S SOMETHING TO TO BE CONSIDERED.

I ALSO GOT FROM THE Y A BREAKDOWN OF WHO'S PARTICIPATING BY AGE.

AND BY THE WAY, THERE SEEM TO BE A LARGE NUMBER OF US ACTIVE OLDER ADULTS.

THAT'S A NEW WORD, ALWAYS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF US WHO ARE 25% OF THE POPULATION, ABOUT 3300 PEOPLE.

AND IF YOU COME DURING THE DAY, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU'LL MOST LIKELY ENCOUNTER NOT IN THE EVENING, BUT 3300 ACRES AND AND FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN MAKE UP 64%.

AND SOME THEY MAY BE SOME THAT GO AWAY, BUT THOSE ARE 8300 PERSONS.

AND THEN THERE ARE REGULAR ADULTS OF 1800.

SO AGAIN, THEY MAKE UP THE 13,000 POPULATION.

AND EXCUSE ME, I JOKINGLY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ASKED JESSICA IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO CHASE MEMBERS AWAY.

I WAS KIDDING.

BUT SERIOUSLY, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO THE VOLUME.

THIS IS A HEAVILY USED FACILITY AND AGAIN, THAT'S BACKED WITH MY EXPERIENCE WITH THESE OTHER GYMS THE FORT WORTH Y, THE DALLAS Y HEAVY BUSINESS USERS DURING THE LUNCH HOURS FROM 11 TO 2 AND VERY MUCH LIGHTER IN THE EVENING.

BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE VOLUME OF OUR MEMBERSHIPS, OUR MEMBERSHIP IS 3.25 TIMES THAT OF EULESS.

IT'S 4.2, FIVE TIMES THAT OF KELLER, AND WE'RE 72% OF GRAPEVINES.

THAT'S A BIGGER FACILITY.

SO AGAIN, I AM SHOCKED, PLEASANTLY SHOCKED, A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED AT THE VOLUMES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ATTRACT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

IT DOES CREATE SOME PROBLEMS, HOWEVER.

THE Y HAS INDICATED THEY GAVE ME A NUMBER.

IN TERMS OF THE LAST TWO MONTHS, WE AVERAGED 885 PEOPLE A DAY.

I CHECKED WITH MY LAST GYM, LA FITNESS.

THEY HAVE ABOUT 600.

WE ARE A HEAVILY USED GYM AND AGAIN DURING THE DAY IT'S MOSTLY.

SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT WE ARE A HEAVILY USED FACILITY AND HOW WE MAINTAIN IT.

THE DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

AND FROM.

IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED WITH, THERE ARE PEOPLE, SOME OF MY FRIENDS FROM KELLER.

ONE OF MY FRIENDS FROM COLLIERVILLE IS IN THE BACK.

HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO SPEAK ARLINGTON, FORT WORTH.

SO THEY'RE COMING FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

THEY'RE COMING FOR THE WALKING TRAIL, THE WALKING TRAIL, AND THEY'RE COMING FOR A VARIETY OF OTHER REASONS.

THEY'RE COMING ALSO BECAUSE THE RATES ARE GOOD.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR AND THE YMCA FOR.

OKAY. AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN, WE ARE VERY IMPRESSED WITH WITH THE FACILITY.

SO WHAT HAVE THEY DONE IN SEVEN MONTHS? WELL, THEY ATTRACTED 13,000 MEMBERS.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT, AS I TALKED WITH THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS, THEY'RE BUSY.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WOULD MAKE TO THE YMCA STAFF, THEY'RE STILL HERE, IS THAT THE POOR GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HELPING US ON SUNDAY, WE HAD A POOL PARTY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE WAS ONE GUY AT THE DESK AND HE WAS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.

HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T ANSWER THE PHONE AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.

SO SUNDAY SEEMS I KNOW THAT WILL PROBABLY CHANGE, AS THEY SAID, THE SUMMER WHEN THE SUMMER GOES AWAY.

BUT I WOULD LOOK AT SUNDAY STAFFING BECAUSE THIS POOR GENTLEMAN WAS HAVING A ROUGH TIME AND HE REALIZED THAT.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS, AS I LOOK AT THE WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THEY'VE ADDED 13,000 MEMBERSHIPS. THEY HAVE ADDED 49 CLASSES A WEEK.

AND IF NOBODY KNOWS, THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

LA FITNESS HAS HAS HOW MANY IS IT? THEY HAVE 39 AND THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS.

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AND SO THAT IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE, MY WIFE INCLUDED, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THOSE CLASSES.

SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER IS MANAGING 1161 KIDS IN SUMMER CAMP.

THAT'S THE NUMBER THEY GAVE ME.

AND I SEE THESE TWO 300 KIDS WALKING THROUGH THE GYM EVERY DAY.

AND TO HELP THESE POOR FOLKS AT THE Y THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THE SUMMER ISSUE, THEY ALL LINED UP AGAINST THE POOL ONE DAY AND.

EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD THEIR HANDPRINTS ON THE WALL.

AND AS THE GROUP LINED UP OUTSIDE, AS THEY WERE FACING THE GYM, THEY WERE OUTSIDE.

EVERYONE IN THAT HUNDRED SOME GROUP HAD THEIR HANDS ON THE WALL.

SO IF YOU'RE KEEPING UP WITH THOSE KIDS, GOOD LUCK.

I'VE GOT THREE GRANDKIDS AND I KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT IS IN THE SUMMERTIME THAT THEY THAT THEY REFERENCE THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND IN ADDITION TO DOING ALL THOSE THINGS, SETTING UP AND RUNNING A DAYCARE IS WHAT THEY SET UP, MANAGING THE 1100 AND SOME KIDS AND MANAGING CONFERENCES AND POOL ACTIVITIES, THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

WE HAD A POOL PARTY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST THIS LAST WEEK.

CONCLUSIONS. I THINK WE HAVE SOME TRADE OFFS.

MY FACETIOUS COMMENT ABOUT IF COULD WE GET RID OF SOME PEOPLE.

THE FACILITY IS VERY HEAVILY USED.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE THIS IS MY GRUMPY OLD MAN COMMENT.

I GUESS THE EQUIPMENT AREA IS ALWAYS BUSY IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT GYM AREA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IT'S TOO SMALL.

MAYBE IT CAN BE EXPANDED.

I SUSPECT IT CAN.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PICK YOUR TIMES.

AND I'M A GRUMPY GUY ABOUT SWIMMING LAPS AND LADIES THAT ARE IN THE FITNESS CLASS, THEY HAVE THEIR TIME AND YOU CANNOT BE CAREFUL.

TOM, I KNOW YOU CANNOT MESS WITH THEM.

SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU PEOPLE? ALL I'M SAYING IS THE FACILITY IS VERY HEAVILY USED.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO PICK THEIR SPOTS IN THEIR TIMES, THAT'S ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES OF BEING A HEAVILY USED FACILITY.

WE DON'T IT'S NOT LIKE EVEN LA FITNESS.

I COULD GO IN LA FITNESS AND WORK OUT ANY TIME.

I COULD GO IN LA FITNESS AND GET A LAP ANYTIME.

I CAN'T DO THAT AT THIS GYM RIGHT NOW.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S HEAVILY USED.

AND I SUSPECT AS THEY GET MORE LIFEGUARDS, THAT WILL BE FIXED.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES OF HAVING A LARGE POPULATION.

AND I GUESS I'M REPEATING MYSELF WITH THE.

1100 KIDS.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS CLEANING SOME OF THE AREAS.

ARCHITECTS ARE GREAT PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE MOST PRACTICAL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

ALL I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY COULD NOT HAVE TAKING ON KIDS.

YOU'RE TAKING ON WOMEN AND NOW YOU'RE TAKING ON ARCHITECTS.

I THIS IS MY NIGHT.

I'M SURE THEY IMAGINED THIS WONDERFUL ALL THESE WONDERFUL GLASS WALLS.

I DON'T THINK THEY IMAGINED 1100 KIDS EVERY DAY.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.

AND THE OTHER CHALLENGE THAT I SEE THE WORLD DIFFERENT THAN NORMAL PEOPLE.

IT'S MY GRUMPY OLD MAN SIDE.

COME ON. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE DESIGN OF SOME OF THE FACILITY.

THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE WHY.

WHEN I WALK IN THE LOCKER MEN'S LOCKER ROOM IN THE MORNING WHEN IT'S SWIM TIME, THEY JUST MOP THE FLOOR, TWO GUYS WALK BY AND THE FLOOR LOOKS LIKE CRAP. IT'S DIRTY BECAUSE IT'S WET.

EVERYBODY WALKS IN WITH WET FEET.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING FROM THE PICKLEBALL COURT THAT HAVE REGULAR SHOES ON.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY THAT HAVE REGULAR SHOES ON THE FLOOR IS IS A COLOR THAT'S NOT VERY CONDUCIVE.

IT LOOKS BAD. IT'S CLEAN.

THEY CLEAN IT. I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FLOOR IN THE IN THE LOCKER ROOMS, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.

IT LOOKS GOOD THE TIME THE GUY MOPS IT.

BUT THREE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AFTERWARD, IT DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD.

SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DEAL WITH IT.

JESSICA DID GET FLOOR MATS WHEN I ASKED HER WITH RESPECT TO IN THE GYM AREA BECAUSE IT WAS SLIPPERY, THOSE WERE ADDED.

THAT HELPS, BUT IT'S ALWAYS WET AND PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WALKING IN, SOME WITH STREET SHOES, SOME OF US THAT ARE JUST SWIMMING WITH WET BATHING SUITS, IT'S ALWAYS WET.

SO. THE FIVE LIFEGUARDS.

THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH RESPECT TO THE THE INSIDE POOL.

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AND I REALIZE THE CHALLENGE IN GETTING LIFEGUARDS.

ONE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD, AND THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE WHY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF THEY'D HAD A SHOWER IN THE POOL AREA.

MOST GYMS DO.

WE DON'T. UM.

AND WITH RESPECT TO THE POOR GENTLEMAN ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE COULD HAVE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THEM, WITH VOLUNTEERS.

WE SEEM TO BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH BEAUTIFICATION AND OTHER THINGS, BUT I SUSPECT THEY CAN'T ALWAYS COVER EVERYTHING.

SO IF THERE COULD BE A VOLUNTEER COOPERATIVE THING, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

AND LASTLY, I DID NOT THIS PLACE I WILL SAY THIS PLACE ROCKS.

I DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE IT MORE HEAVILY AND GET MORE PEOPLE COMING HERE.

HOWEVER, IF WE LOOK AT THE STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.

THEY'RE ALWAYS FRIENDLY, THEY'VE ALWAYS LISTENED TO THINGS THAT WE'VE SAID.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THIS IS A REVELATION FOR ME AS WELL.

I DID NOT THINK WE COULD HAVE A FOCAL POINT FOR A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOOD OR BETTER THAN OUR LIBRARY, BUT WE DO.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE MADE NEW FRIENDS.

PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER, PEOPLE I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A LONG TIME.

OLDER PEOPLE, YOUNGER PEOPLE, PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS.

AND WAIT. I UNDERSTAND KAREN MAKING NEW FRIENDS.

BUT YOU'VE MADE NEW FRIENDS TOO.

ACTUALLY, A FEW, BUT NOT.

NOT AMONG WOMEN IN ARCHITECTS.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL, TO THANK YOU, TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF TWO PEOPLE OR ONE PERSON WHO REALLY LOVES THE GYM WOULD LOVE TO USE IT MORE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GET OFF MY LAWN, TOM.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

LET'S GO FROM ONE TOM TO ANOTHER.

HOW ABOUT TOM CULVERT? YOU SIGNED UP, SIR.

WELCOME BACK. YES.

YOU'VE SEEN ME BEFORE.

I TRIED TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING UP THIS PROBLEM WITH MY PROPERTY.

BECAUSE SOME WORK NEAR YOUR HOUSE.

THERE ARE SOME EQUIPMENT ON YOUR PROPERTY.

LOOKS LIKE. I MEAN, THIS ROCK PILE IS IN MY YARD.

THAT MOOSE WAS IN MY YARD.

AND EVERY TIME THEY TURN THAT STUPID THING, IT TORE ALL THE TURF OUT OF IT, OUT OF MY BACK YARD.

SO, ALL I GOT BACK THERE NOW IS A ROCK PILE.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RETURN THIS TO ITS NORMAL FORM? I TRIED TO GO THROUGH YOU, BUT YOU DUCKED ME TWICE.

NO. THE FIRST TIME YOU THOUGHT I GOT FIRED.

AND THE SECOND TIME I WAS GETTING ON A ZOOM MEETING.

YOU REMEMBER? YOU LOOKED AT ME AND YOU SAID, I WANT.

WHERE'S THE FEMALE CITY MANAGER? THEY LET GO OF JIMMY AT THE LAST MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. SO WE DID HAVE SOME CHOICE WORDS ABOUT YOU.

YES, I CAN CHECK.

I PREACHED TO HIM.

I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THE CITY PERMISSION TO DO THAT.

AND I DID NOT GIVE THE CITY PERMISSION TO DO THAT.

YOU DID, MR. COLBERT.

I PROMISE SOMEONE IS MISINFORMED.

AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY PRETTY GIRLS YOU SEND OUT TO TALK TO ME, I STILL NEED MY YARD FIXED.

YEAH, WE WILL RESTORE IT TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.

I PROMISE. AND I'LL GET AN ETA ON THAT.

SO MEAN NO MORE PRETTY GIRLS TO HIS HOUSE.

NO. YOU CAN KEEP SENDING THE PRETTY GIRLS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

I'M SORRY I MISSPOKE THERE.

NO, HE KNOWS I WON'T JUMP ON THEM.

OKAY, LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT, TOM.

THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, WE WILL GET THAT BACK TO ITS NORMAL STATE.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, SIR.

I CAN'T WIN THE BEAUTIFUL YARD THING WITH THIS THING TEARING UP MY.

MAYBE YOU CAN NEXT YEAR.

THANKS, TOM. OKAY, LET'S WELCOME BACK TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

JOSEPH STOUT.

WELCOME BACK, JOE. YOU REMEMBER HOW TO GET BACK THIS WAY? I DO. GOOD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

I'M JOE STOUT. I LIVE IN COLLIERVILLE, BUT I OWN PROPERTY IN BEDFORD.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN TAX PAYERS IN BEDFORD TOGETHER, OR ONE OF US AT LEAST SINCE 1993.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE DO HAVE A WE HAVE A STAKE AND WE STILL CARE ABOUT BEDFORD.

AND IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW HERE.

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IT WAS OVER AT THE LIBRARY.

IT WAS ABOUT THE GENERATIONS PARK AND WHATEVER WE WERE CALLING IT THEN.

AND SOMEONE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS A GYM FOR BEDFORD.

WE WANT IT TO BE THE CROWNING JEWEL OF BEDFORD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND AT THE TIME I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN.

BUT I TELL YOU, THAT'S OUR WORD FOR THE DAY.

ASPIRATIONAL. YEAH, Y'ALL HAVE REALLY DONE IT.

I MEAN, THIS PARK, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT AND EVERYTHING IS A LITTLE BROWN.

AND, YOU KNOW, OUR HOMES, CERTAINLY THESE BEAUTIFUL YARDS PROBABLY EXPERIENCING THAT, TOO.

BUT THE PARK LOOKS GREAT.

THE LAKE LOOKS GREAT.

AND THE Y, THE BEDFORD CENTER YMCA IS JUST REALLY A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY IN SO MANY WAYS.

NOW. MY WIFE AND I JOINED RECENTLY, SO MAYBE WE DIDN'T SEE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS OR WE HAVEN'T HEARD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE NEGATIVES OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. BUT WE'RE EXTREMELY IMPRESSED BY IT.

AND I LIKE TOM, WE'VE BELONGED TO QUITE A FEW FITNESS CENTERS.

AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WHEN I WAS WORKING OVER IN GRAND PRAIRIE FOR A CORPORATION OVER THERE, THEY BUILT A FACILITY CALLED THE EPIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF IT.

IT'S A FANTASTIC CITY AND FACILITY AND I WAS DOING COMMUNITY RELATIONS THERE.

AND SO I GOT TO REALLY WITNESS THAT WHOLE THING WHEN IT WAS BEING BUILT AND IT WAS ALL BEING DEVELOPED.

AND IN FACT, OUR CORPORATION ENDED UP BEING A CORPORATE MEMBER OF IT AS THE REASON I WAS INVOLVED IN IT.

BUT WHEN I GO SEE THE FACILITY IN BEDFORD, MANY OF THE SAME FEATURES.

SO IT IS STATE OF THE ART.

IT IS REALLY, REALLY WELL DONE COMMUNITY WISE.

I THINK IT CAN REALLY BE A FOCAL POINT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER BECAUSE WHEN I WHEN I GO IN THERE, I SEE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND THERE'S PROGRAMS FOR EVERYBODY. HECK, THEY'VE EVEN GOT YOU CAN BREW BEER IF YOU WANT TO.

I MEAN PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY THERE.

AND SO, I THINK IT CAN REALLY, ALONG WITH THE BEAUTIFUL LIBRARY THAT YOU HAVE, AND BEDFORD REALLY DOES HAVE A GREAT LIBRARY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE TO NEW RESIDENTS AND TO NEW BUSINESSES.

AND I REALLY THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S VERY WELL DONE.

AND I THINK I THINK IT WAS A GREAT BUSINESS DECISION TO GET THE YMCA TO COME IN AND HELP RUN IT RATHER THAN TRY TO TAKE IT ON AS A CITY THING OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOUR OTHER ALTERNATIVES WERE.

I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN TO RESTAURANTS WHERE PEOPLE DECIDE THEY WANT TO GO IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS AND THEY DON'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT IT, AND THEY'RE OUT OF BUSINESS PRETTY FAST. AND SO TO GET SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO RUN A FACILITY LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD MOVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOE, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

AND LASTLY, BRUCE EMERY.

COME ON DOWN.

BRUCE, YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES.

TOM USED THE REST OF MY MINUTES.

NO, HE'S ALREADY GONE.

YOU CAN'T DEFER TO HIM. BRUCE EMERY, 1632 LEXINGTON PLACE HERE IN BEDFORD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

MR. CITY MANAGER.

BEEN A LOT OF NUMBERS TONIGHT, A LOT OF THINGS DISCUSSED THAT WE'VE ALL THOUGHT ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD I MIGHT WANT TO REMIND IS, YOU KNOW, HE WAS MENTIONING THAT.

SIX, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS AGO.

A YEAR AGO, WE DIDN'T THINK ANY OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

I DON'T THINK THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE HAD ANY IDEA THEN OR EVEN RECENTLY HOW MUCH THIS CITY NEEDED A FACILITY LIKE THIS.

WHY? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SITTING AROUND HAVING THEIR FREE COFFEE, TALKING TO EACH OTHER, WAITING TO PLAY PICKLEBALL, DO THEIR THING? THE FACT THAT ON ANY GIVEN TIME THE GYM CAN BE FULL OF.

PEOPLE OUT THERE DANCING TO THE MUSIC AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE IN THERE IN A SPINNING CLASS AND THEY'RE TEACHING LESSONS IN THE POOL AND THERE'S 400 KIDS WALKING THROUGH THE HALLS. THAT'S THE EPITOME OF THE MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITY THAT YOU ENVISIONED AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY.

AND TO SAY IT'S GENERATIONS.

PARK I THINK NOW IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE TO SAY, WELL, IT WAS BOYS RANCH AND NOW IT'S GENERATIONS PARK.

IT IS DEFINITELY GENERATIONS.

PARK FROM THE SMALLEST TO THE OLDEST CITIZENS OF OUR CITY.

AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE MISS THAT.

WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD BE THIS POPULAR, THAT TOM WOULD HAVE TO WAIT TO SWIM, OR THAT WHEN I GO TO WORK OUT ON GYM MACHINES, THERE'S A WAIT.

SO YOU HAVE TO GO WALK THE TRACK SEVERAL TIMES SO YOU CAN GET A SPOT.

IT'S NOT A HORRIBLE PROBLEM TO HAVE.

BUT IT HAS A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

THING WE HAVEN'T. NOBODY HAS SAID TONIGHT IS THAT IT'S FUN.

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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE, THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE EMPLOYEES, THE STAFF DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A FUN BUILDING TO BE IN.

OTHER THAN THE LITTLE KIDS WITH THE WINDOWS AND THEIR FINGERS WALK IN THAT TRACK AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK OUT THAT WINDOW EVERY TIME YOU MAKE THE LOOP OR THE OTHER GLASS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE ARE IN THERE, THE FACT THAT YOU CAN WORK OUT AND LOOK DOWN AT THE POOL AT THE SAME TIME.

IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. IT'S A FUN PLACE TO BE.

IT'S OPEN. IT'S REFRESHING.

IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST BUILDING IN BEDFORD.

FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

I LEARNED THE OTHER DAY THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THERE ARE AS MANY AS 1200 PEOPLE A DAY COMING THROUGH THAT Y BUILDING.

THERE'S ONLY FOUR OTHER BUSINESSES IN ALL OF BEDFORD THAT HAS THAT MANY CUSTOMERS ON A GIVEN DAY.

YOUR PLACE IS ONE OF THEM.

COUNCILMAN ROB. BUT OUTSIDE OF THE GROCERY STORES, IF YOU CONCLUDE WALMART, THERE ISN'T AS MANY CUSTOMERS ON A GIVEN DAY AS OUR YMCA DOES AND WE LOSE THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY SCHOOLS THAT HAVE 1200 KIDS IN THERE EVERY DAY.

YOU KNOW, IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAN THE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR MANY HOURS THEY'RE OPEN.

SO WE NEED TO PUT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, I THINK, TO DO THAT.

I LIKE MY FRIEND TOM.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE Y SINCE I WAS REAL LITTLE WHEN THE Y WHEN THE M AND THE Y WAS REALLY JUST MEN.

I LEARNED HOW TO SWIM THERE.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE Y EVER SINCE.

I HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORTED TWO GENERATIONS OF LIFEGUARDS FOR THE YMCA.

WOMEN SWIM BACK THEN THEY WEREN'T IN THE BUILDING.

NO, SIR, THEY WERE NOT FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT WE WON'T TALK ABOUT.

UNBELIEVABLE. BUT I HAVE I HAVE PROVIDED.

WHAT WAS ABRAHAM LINCOLN LIKE? HE WASN'T VERY GOOD IN THE BREASTSTROKE, BUT I PROVIDED TWO GENERATIONS OF LIFEGUARDS, EVEN CURRENTLY TO THE YMCA.

MY GRANDDAUGHTER CURRENTLY IS IS LIFEGUARDING AND TEACHING SWIMMING LESSONS, AND SHE STARTED IN FEBRUARY, SO I DID A MEMBERSHIP WITH THIS GROUP AS SOON AS THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BECAUSE I WANTED TO DRIVE THOSE NUMBERS OF WHO THE INITIAL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE FOR THIS NEW FACILITY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE'S A FUN COMPONENT TO THIS THAT YOU CAN'T MONETIZE.

IT DOESN'T WORK OUT ON A SPREADSHEET.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE EVERY DAY AND THEY'RE ALL HAVING A GOOD TIME AND.

MR. JACOBSON'S POINT, IT IS PRETTY FULL.

I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MANY WOMEN TO DANCE ON THAT ON THAT FLOOR IN THE GYM AT ONE TIME.

BUT IT'S OKAY. UNLIKE PREVIOUS WIVES THAT YOU WERE A MEMBER, YOU COULDN'T.

THERE'S 42 PEOPLE STANDING IN LINE TO PLAY PICKLEBALL IN THREE COURTS FOR SEVERAL HOURS EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, THESE ARE GOOD THINGS.

SO IT'S A WONDERFUL FACILITY.

I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING IT.

I HAVE. ONE COMMENT FOR THE NEW DIRECTOR AND STAFF.

OPERATIONALLY AND MANAGERIAL.

THE THING THAT I'VE SEEN IS PROBABLY FED THOSE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN GAGLIARDI HAS SEEN AND OTHER FOLKS IS THE COMMUNICATION INSIDE THE BUILDING WITHIN STAFF.

COULD BE BETTER.

AND CAN'T.

I DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON TOM, BUT THE THING ABOUT ONE GUY AT THE DESK ON A SUNDAY, THAT'S BECAUSE THE FRONT DESK DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BACK END.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS.

WHY THE TREADMILL IS DOWN? WHY ARE THEY PULLING OUT THE ELECTRONICS AND CHANGING THEM OUT ON THE TREADMILL? WHY IS THIS PART CLOSED? WHY IS THIS DOWN INTERNALLY? THERE SHOULD BE MORE COMMUNICATION WITHIN STAFF AMONGST THE DEPARTMENTS AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE, GOD FORBID, LIKE A SALES MEETING THING FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

THIS IS OUR MARCHING ORDERS FOR TODAY.

HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE BUILDING.

LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AND GET THAT DONE.

SO NEW DIRECTOR, THAT MIGHT BE AN ITEM TO TO ADDRESS IS THE PEOPLE AT THE FRONT DESK WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S COMING, WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT CAN HELP A LOT WITH, I THINK, THE CITIZEN INFORMATION AND OUTREACH. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS COMMUNICATION WISE, THE YMCA WEBSITE WAS NOT UPDATED.

I GOT TWO MORE MINUTES. TURN THE LIGHT ON.

I'LL HURRY. IS THE YMCA WEBSITE WAS NOT UPDATED.

HEY, THERE'S A MUTE BUTTON HERE.

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SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO SUGGEST.

THE WEBSITE DIDN'T HIT THE SATURDAY SCHEDULE FOR MONDAY MORNING.

THE SUMMER SCHEDULE, THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE, THE CHANGE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DROVE UP TO GO TO THE OUTDOOR PARK AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY, WE GOT TO REMEMBER THIS IS FUN AND IT'S WAY MORE THAN I THINK WE EVER REALLY EXPECTED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, BRUCE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'LL SAY THIS IN CLOSING TO THE TWO PEOPLE SPEAKING HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE Y ALWAYS BELIEVE WE WOULD HIT THESE NUMBERS.

I MEAN, WE QUESTIONED OURSELVES.

WE WE IT WAS UNIMAGINABLE TO HIT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT YOU ALL ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

SO. THAT'S ON YOU GUYS.

OKAY. NEXT. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NEXT UP, WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS TO CONSIDER BY CONSENT, SO I'LL GIVE YOU CITY MANAGER JIMMY STATHATOS.

[CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ITEMS BY CONSENT ]

COUNCIL. LET'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

IF YOU LOOK, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS ON CONSENT.

THE FIRST ITEM IS THE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE JULY 11TH, 2023 COUNCIL MINUTES.

THE SECOND ITEM IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO RENEW THE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF OFFICE SUPPLIES, FURNITURE AND OTHER AS NEEDED GOODS FROM AMAZON BUSINESS LLC.

IN AN ESTIMATED ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $160,000 WITH OMNIA PUBLIC SECTOR PURCHASING COOPERATIVE.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT AND AS MENTIONED BEFORE, IT GIVES US ACCESS TO GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE PRICING.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO RENEW THE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF MAINTENANCE, REPAIR AND OPERATIONAL SUPPLIES FROM HOME DEPOT PRO IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 WITH OMNIA PUBLIC SECTOR PURCHASING COOPERATIVE.

ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION, IT'S ABOUT ALL THESE ITEMS. THESE ARE BUDGETED FUNDS.

SO THESE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXCEED THE THRESHOLDS THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS YOU CAN TELL THESE ARE MAINTENANCE ITEMS BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO GET TO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, DBA CHOICE PARTNERS PURCHASING COOPERATIVE.

THE NEXT ITEM IS GOMEZ FLOOR COVERING, AND IT'S TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO PURCHASE CARPET FROM GOMEZ FLOOR, COVERING THROUGH THE BILLBOARD PURCHASING COOPERATIVE AND AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $82,728.85.

AND THIS IS FOR THE ADULT AREA AT THE AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE HEB ISD TO PROVIDE FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FOR THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $381,294.32 PAID FOR BY THE DISTRICT.

AND WE STRONGLY APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DISTRICT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TEXAS, FINDING THAT THE ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY LLC'S APPLICATION TO AMEND THE DISTRIBUTION COST RECOVERY FACTOR AND UPDATE GENERATION RIDERS TO INCREASE DISTRIBUTION RATES WITHIN THE CITY SHOULD BE DENIED.

IT AUTHORIZES PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES SERVED BY ONCOR AUTHORIZES THE HIRING OF LEGAL COUNSEL, FINDING THAT THE CITY'S REASONABLE RATE CASE EXPENSES SHALL BE REIMBURSED BY THE COMPANY, FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS PASSED IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW, REQUIRING NOTICE OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE COMPANY AND LEGAL COUNSEL.

THIS IS PART OF A COMMITTEE, A COALITION THAT WE'RE A PART OF.

AND AGAIN, IT'S GOT THAT ECONOMIES OF SCALE BECAUSE ALL THE CITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND IT'S KIND OF A UNITED FRONT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RECEIVE THE 2023 AD VALOREM TAX ROLL FROM THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS CERTIFIED BY CHIEF APPRAISER JEFF LAW.

AND I WANT TO GO DOWN THE ESTIMATED NEXT.

WELL, THE APPRAISED VALUE AND THIS CONSIDERS THE VALUE CAPS IS 7 MILLION $7,233,972,643. AND WHEN YOU TAKE OFF THE EXEMPTIONS, THE ESTIMATED NET TAXABLE VALUE IS $6,333,743,721.

AND FINALLY, THE FINAL ITEM IS TO RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED ANTICIPATED COLLECTION RATE FROM THE TARRANT COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD. AND THAT PERCENTAGE IS 100.03%.

THAT CONCLUDES CONSENT ITEMS. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

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COGAN. LET'S VOTE.

OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS, 6-0.

SO, THANK YOU, COUNL.CI THANK YOU, STAFF.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

NEXT UP, WE DO HAVE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO US UNDER PERSONS TO BE HEARD.

[PERSONS TO BE HEARD]

YES. WELCOME BACK, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL JIMMY BRENNAN.

HELLO. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ADVISORY AND BOARDS.

AND COMMISSIONS. BOARDS.

I SAW LAST WEEK THE FACEBOOK PAGE FROM THE CITY ON THE CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS WITH THE SEPTEMBER 8TH DEADLINE.

I WAS DISMAYED AND A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT I DIDN'T SEE THE FOLLOWING SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, A DEPARTMENT ADVISORY BOARD, CHARTER REVIEW BOARD, YMCA ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH THAT WAS DISCUSSED ALREADY.

SOME WERE BREAK DOWN EACH ONE REAL QUICK.

MYSELF, BECKY FARRELL HAVE COME BEFORE COUNCIL REGARDING A SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD.

BECKY PRESENTED ON OCTOBER 22ND, 20 OCTOBER 20TH, 22, AND THIS PAST MAY AS WELL.

I TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF TIMES AS WELL.

COUNCILWOMAN DAWKINS REQUESTED TO SPEAK ON THE JUNE 13TH CITY CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING HIS SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD AND ALSO THE YMCA BOARD.

THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT SHE ASKED FOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. STEVES COGAN HAVE ALSO SPOKEN TO THE NEED FOR A SENIOR BOARD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

DAN RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? I THINK. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHY? WHY HAVEN'T WE YOU KNOW, WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS A WHILE AGO.

I MEAN, A FEW, I GUESS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

ONE MEETING WAS FROM 6 TO 7, WHICH IS GOOD.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY GOT OUT EARLY.

THAT'S GOOD. BUT THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ON THESE BOARDS OR AND I, TO BE HONEST WITH MAYOR, YOU TOLD ME THAT WAS GOING TO BE APRIL.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE LATEST I HEARD WAS AUGUST.

WE'RE IN AUGUST NOW.

SO THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION.

WITH A NEW SENIOR CITIZEN BUILDING TO BE RENOVATED.

WE HAD HOPED THAT A SENIOR BOARD WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE PLANNED PLANNING OF THE ROOMS NEEDED FOR THE CENTER.

AFTER ALL, THEY'RE THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GO THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BUILDING SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT IS NEEDED.

AND I UNDERSTAND, MARK MARK LONG, WHO IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB, BY THE WAY, IS SPEAKING TONIGHT ON THE NEW CENTER.

SO I GUESS WHAT WE DON'T NEED, WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS HELP FROM SENIORS WHO ACTUALLY ARE MEMBERS.

WE DO WANT THEM AFTER AFTER THE PLANS ARE MADE AND SET IN STONE, SO TO SPEAK.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, I REMEMBER WHEN THE FACILITY OF THE THE YMCA IS NOW IN.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT BACK IN 2016, ALL THE FOLKS WERE ASKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WANTED, WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND A LOT OF IT WAS NOT USED, A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT DEVELOPED THERE WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OR WHATEVER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND THIS AND THAT. WHAT THEY WHAT WHAT CAME ABOUT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THE YMCA RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE WAS A $60 MILLION BOND, AS WE KNOW, 70 TOTAL.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS AFTER AFTER IT'S ALL DONE AND THEN EVERYTHING'S ALREADY SET IN STONE AND THE SENIOR CENTER MAY NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT WE REALLY WANT.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE HELP FROM FROM THE FOLKS OF THE SENIORS APARTMENT ADVISORY BOARD.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY WAS OUT OF THE BOX THINKING BY COUNCILWOMAN DAWKINS.

AND THERE WAS A MEETING, I GUESS IT WAS THE JUNE 13TH OR MAYBE ANOTHER MEETING.

OH, SHE ALSO BROUGHT THAT UP AT A STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING MEETING, AND THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION.

THE FACT SHE MENTIONED THAT RECENTLY AND IT WAS KIND OF PUNTED BY YOURSELF AND JIMMY, THAT'S MY IMPRESSION.

AND SO THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR APARTMENT I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY.

WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, 35 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN A LOT OF THESE APARTMENTS.

AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ARE INVOLVED MAYBE BETWEEN THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT CAN GET TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT CAN HAPPEN AND TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THE APARTMENT.

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YET NO TRACTION ON THIS AS WELL.

CHARTER REVIEW BOARD.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST ALSO AND THE NEED TO HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW FOR YEARS.

MAYBE YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO THIS IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AS WELL AS WELL AS OTHER MEETINGS.

THE LAST ONE WAS DISBANDED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAD A BOARD.

I BELIEVE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT BOARD TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE OR STRENGTHEN THE WORDING OF THE CHARTER AND TO BE VOTED ON BY THE RESIDENTS.

IT'S IMPORTANT. OTHERWISE, YOU GET SOMETIMES YOU GET THINGS DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

ONE SECOND, YOU GET ONE SECOND YOU GET THINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR LIBERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE WORDING AND VOTES AND THINGS ARE DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AS OPPOSED TO WITH SUPERSEDE THE THE ACTUAL CHARTER.

AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. ARE YOU SEEING THAT AS A PERMANENT BOARD? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? I THINK ONCE A YEAR, MAYBE.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, MAKE THE INITIAL CHANGES OR AND HAVE THE FOLKS VOTE ON IT.

AND THEN IF IT NEEDS TO BE MAYBE ANOTHER ONE.

BUT EVERY YEAR, I THINK JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THINGS FRESH AS OPPOSED TO LETTING IT SIT THERE FOR FOR YEARS.

THE YMCA ADVISORY BOARD.

I GUESS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT WAS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BOARD.

SO HERE WE ARE 7 OR 8 MONTHS LATER AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NO BOARD.

AND MAYBE IF THAT BOARD WAS ASSEMBLED BACK IN JANUARY OR MAYBE EVEN BEFORE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE FOLKS, BETWEEN THE ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS MADE UP, I GUESS, OF CITIZENS, BUSINESS LEADERS, CITY OFFICIALS, I BELIEVE, AND RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD THING TO HAVE.

AND SOME OF THESE COMMUNICATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULD HAVE STRENGTHENED OR, YOU KNOW, TAKEN CARE OF SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE CUT OFF, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO.

AND AGAIN, I THANK COUNCILWOMAN DAWKINS, DAN AND OTHER FOLKS.

STEVES WAS ALSO ASKED FOR SOME OF THESE THESE THESE ADVISORY BOARDS, I THINK.

THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.

SO SEPTEMBER I SAW THE OLD NOT OLD.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY OLD, BUT SOME OF THE BOARDS THAT ARE ALREADY FOR VOLUNTEERS ASKING FOR AND I WAS ON THE CAC FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT'S A REAL GOOD THING FOR THE CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO VOLUNTEER AND TO BE PART OF.

AND I THINK THAT THESE THESE WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SURE. OKAY.

LET ME SAY THIS TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU WERE ELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

YOU REPRESENT SOME 50,000 RESIDENTS.

YOU WORK FOR US? JIMMY, NO DISRESPECT.

YOU DON'T WORK FOR JIMMY.

YOU DON'T WORK FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

YOU WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO GET THINGS DONE.

THAT'S A GIVEN.

YOU DON'T WORK FOR THE MAYOR.

NO DISRESPECT.

OR THE MEMBER OR ONE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, THANK GOD.

YES. YES.

OR YOU DON'T WORK FOR ONE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

MAYBE HAS A LITTLE MORE SWAY THAN HE OR SHE SHOULD HAVE.

YOU WORK FOR YOURSELF.

YOU WORK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY. YOU WORK FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS IN THIS TOWN.

AND SOMETIMES YOU YOUR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO STAND UP TO BE HEARD.

SOMETIMES YOU NEED.

SOMETIMES YOU WILL STAND ALONE AS COUNCILMAN GAGLIARDI DID.

HE WAS RIGHT TO DO THIS.

HE WAS RIGHT ON THE RIGHT, ON THE NOSE.

AND YET YOU HEAR THINGS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT.

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.

THE ONLY COMPLAINT I HAVE IS WHY WASN'T IT DONE BEFORE IN THE SEVEN MONTHS OR SO THAT WHY WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE MAKING ALL KINDS OF CHANGES AND WHICH IS GREAT.

IT'S A GOOD THING. SO THAT'S OKAY.

STAND UP TO BE SEEN AND HEARD.

AND NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF WHO YOU PUT INTO AND WHY YOU ARE IN THOSE CHAIRS.

THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

WORK FOR THEM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

[01:50:01]

YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH? OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO DEFER TO YOU FIRST? YEAH. LET ME SAY THIS.

AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOARDS.

WHEN WE HAD OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION LAST FALL, COUNCIL AGREED WE WANTED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE BOARDS BECAUSE COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT.

I BELIEVE THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE INVOLVEMENT BY THE RESIDENTS.

SO I THINK THAT IS A GLOBAL CONVERSATION FOR US.

IT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING FROM HERE ON OUT.

IT'S NOT A ONE TIME SCENARIO.

SO YES, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.

I, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY INTENTIONAL EFFORT TO NOT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

I THINK WE JUST.

FORGOT TO LIST THE PROPER BOARDS ON THEIR.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

I'M JUST TAKING WHAT HE'S SAYING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST DIDN'T LIST THESE BOARDS.

I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S RESIDENTS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT WANT THINGS AND SAY THINGS.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL COLLECTIVELY DOESN'T CODIFY THAT, THEN IT'S NOT A BOARD OR COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S VALID BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S NOT JUST SELECTING MEMBERS FOR THOSE BOARDS.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT EXPANDING AND ADDING MORE BOARDS.

YES, SIR. AND I'LL TELL YOU LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU MENTIONED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

IT'S BEEN YEARS. THERE WAS ONE LAST YEAR.

PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHARTER IS EVERYONE'S A CHARTER EXPERT.

AND SO THEY'LL MAKE COMMENTS AND THEN THEY MIGHT BE IN A POSITION OF INFLUENCE AND THEY'LL MAKE COMMENTS LIKE, THIS IS THE LAW, THIS IS THE LAW WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL BACKGROUND.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, IF YOU EVER FEEL LIKE ANY GOVERNING BODY, WHETHER IT'S THE STATE CAN DO IT.

BUT IF IT'S CITIES, COUNTIES MAKING A VOTE BEHIND, AS YOU ALLEGE, MAKING A VOTE, THAT'S A BOLD ACCUSATION.

I'D CALL THE DA'S OFFICE TOMORROW BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF A DANGEROUS ACCUSATION BECAUSE THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

AND I WOULD JUST I PERSONALLY WOULD CONSIDER MAKING A CERTIFIED COMPLAINT BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, THE TIMES I'VE BEEN HERE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ONE.

AND SO, TO ME, I'M SORRY, A COMPLAINT TO ME, NO, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A VIOLATION.

NO ONE HAS TAKEN A FINAL VOTE IN THE BACK.

AND ANYONE THAT SAYS THAT I WOULD IF I IF I WERE JOE Q PUBLIC OR ANY CITIZEN, I WOULD DEFINITELY GO, YEP.

BECAUSE HE SAID THAT THERE WERE VOTES TAKEN BACK THERE THAT WERE LIBERAL OR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE CHARTER.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK INTERPRETATIONS ARE WRONG IF THEY IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THE FACT OF LAW.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THE CITY OF JIMMY.

WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT COMMITTEE WISE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS DO YOU MIND, COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS IF I TELL SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OR ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS WHENEVER THE BOARD, THE SENIOR CENTERS BEING DESIGNED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF SENIORS THAT ARE INTIMATELY INVOLVED FROM DAY ONE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, AND I DON'T MISS FARRELL'S HERE.

MISS FARRELL IS FROM.

YOU'RE FROM FLOWER MOUND, CORRECT? YOU'RE NOT. THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE.

I'M SORRY. I KNEW THAT THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POTTERY.

YES, I HAD.

I'M SORRY. I HAD DINNER AT FLOWER MOUND LAST WEEK.

OKAY. YEAH. AND SO.

AND I APOLOGIZE.

I'M SORRY. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN BEDFORD, BUT I KNOW THAT.

AND I MENTIONED FLOWER MOUND.

THERE'S A LOT OF THE MAJORITY OF CITIES THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN CITY COUNCILS TRY TO APPOINT A SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION, THERE'S A LOT OF PUSHBACK BECAUSE TYPICALLY I'M NOT A SENIOR, I'M CLOSE, I'VE GOT GRAY HAIR. BUT FOR MY EXAM, MY AND IT MIGHT BE A MATTER OF POLLING THE SENIORS, BUT MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THE SENIORS.

THE BOARD IS APPOINTED AND CREATED BY THEM.

THEY DON'T WANT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.

THEY'LL COME TO YOU IF THEY WANT SOMETHING FUNNY AND WISE.

AND IT'S GOTTEN VERY POLITICAL BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED MORE THAN WHAT WE THINK WE NEED? BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CREATE BOARDS, WE'LL ADVERTISE THEM FOR NEW MEMBERS.

BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.

THE CHALLENGE IS THE THE CHALLENGE IS THE BALANCING ACT.

I MEAN, ONE WAY THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT RECENTLY AND I KNOW WE HAD LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS CREATING THOSE ADVISORY BOARDS IN THEIR CAPACITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE USED TO TALK AND I HAVEN'T HAD THEM LATELY, BUT IN THE MORNINGS WITH THE MAYOR, RIGHT? SO PLEASE REMEMBER, I'M A FAN THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE INVOLVEMENT.

SO I MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO EXPAND THE BOARDS, AS I SAID, UP TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN SEPTEMBER, THAT'D BE GREAT AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DOING INTERVIEWS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I WONDER IF WE SHOULD BRING THAT FORWARD QUICKER.

IF COUNCILS IF COUNCIL IS AMENABLE TO THAT CONVERSATION.

GOOD OR BAD? YES OR NO.

FORWARD OR BACKWARD.

IF I COULD SAY ONE MORE THING.

SO AS YOU WERE ALLUDING TO, THAT THE SENIORS BECOMES POLITICAL AND SO FORTH.

MAYBE THERE WASN'T THE CORRECT CHAIRPERSON TO KIND OF GUIDE THEM.

I THE CAC, I WORKED WITH THE CITY ALL THE TIME AND YOU WERE ABLE TO GUIDE THROUGH THAT.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THAT, JIMMY.

I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S BECAUSE THE SENIORS AGAIN, I'M GOING FROM MY EXPERIENCE WORKING AT OTHER CITIES, I'M NOT TRYING TO ACT LIKE I'M THE SENIOR WHISPERER.

[01:55:08]

WHEN I SAID IT'S POLITICAL, IT'S BECAUSE THE SENIORS AGAIN, I CAN'T PUT A BIG ENOUGH ASTERISK FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

THE SENIOR CITIZEN GROUPS HAVE ALWAYS STATED THAT THEY WANT TO BE SELF-GOVERNED.

THEY WANT THE COUNCIL TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE.

THEY WANT TO APPOINT THE COMMITTEE THEMSELVES, ELECT THEIR OWN PRESIDENT, SOCIAL CHAIR, ALL THAT STUFF.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY IT'S POLITICAL.

NOT THAT THEY GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, THAT NONE OF THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M SORRY.

NONE OF THAT MATTERS.

IT'S HOW WE CONSTRUCT THE BOARD.

RIGHT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS IN THIS CITY THAT WANT TO BE PART OF IT.

SO. YEAH, NO, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID JUST ASK THEM.

I WASN'T SAYING NOT TO DO IT.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN VOTED IN THE PAST IN SUPERSEDING THE CHARTER BY THE CITY? NEVER. NOT THAT. NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

EXECUTIVE SESSION. NEVER KNOW.

LIKE I KNOW THE RESIDENCY.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MISTAKENLY BELIEVE THERE'S A VIOLATION.

AND LET'S JUST ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AGAIN.

THAT'S I MEAN IT'S IT'S IT'S MISINFORMATION.

EVERY AMENDMENT TO MY AGREEMENT, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT HAS BEEN VOTED OUT HERE.

AND SO ANYONE THAT CAN SEE THE DOCUMENTS AND PERPETUATES OTHERWISE IS JUST I THINK, COMMITTING SLANDER AGAINST ME AND THE COUNCIL.

AND SO YEAH, I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND SEE AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I WANT TO USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO. SO DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR RESIDENCY NOW OR A DIFFERENT TIME? NO, I DON'T THINK I MEAN, I KNOW YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT A LOT, BUT THE REALITY IS I'M NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER.

AND YOU CAN SAY IT UNTIL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE, BUT ONCE YOU BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M GIVING YOU THE COURTESY THAT I TYPICALLY DON'T GET FROM YOU, THAT I WOULD RELY ON ATTORNEYS.

WELL, NOT JUST. I'M ALMOST DONE.

SORRY, SIR. NOT JUST OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

A MULTITUDE OF CITY ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU DO.

AND THAT'S FINE. BUT I THINK HAVING A DESIGNATED CITY ATTORNEY THAT HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, I THINK IS WHAT I WOULD RELY ON, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

OKAY. AND ALL DUE RESPECT TO YOU AS WELL.

I GUESS YOU CAME ON BOARD HERE AND YOU KNEW THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN BEDFORD.

RIGHT? AND.

AND. AND WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY GAVE YOU AN EXTENSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN WAS GOING TO FINISH HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY GAVE YOU THE EXTENSION. SO I'M SORRY.

THAT'S NOT CORRECT, SIR. THAT'S NOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

MY. NO, MY MY KIDS HAD GRADUATED.

THIS ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, SO WE PROBABLY CAN'T KEEP TALKING ABOUT MY.

MY KIDS HAVE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK OR THERE'S A CONCERN IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I KNOW. AND, JIMMY, MAYBE YOU LIKE.

THIS IS A SIDEWAYS CONVERSATION.

I'D LOVE TO. I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED.

I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE TIME.

YEAH, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE TIMES.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

I JUST THERE'S A LOT OF PERCEPTION IS A LOT OF FOLKS ARE UPSET ABOUT THAT.

SO LET ME SAY THIS IN CLOSING.

I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE. I THINK THIS IS A MARRIAGE.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE DISAGREEMENTS.

I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO GO TO A THERAPIST AND WORK THIS OUT.

OKAY. SO COCHRAN, DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THIS.

OH, LET'S NOT GO THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY, NEXT UP, LET'S WELCOME BACK TOM BURNETT TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

WELCOME BACK, TOM. FORMER NAME AND ADDRESS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON THE SHEET ALREADY.

OKAY. FOR OFFICIAL PURPOSES.

MY NAME IS TOM BURNETT.

I RESIDE AT 2253 BEDFORD CIRCLE HERE IN BEDFORD.

I'M SORRY THAT I EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU ARE EXPECTING ME TO BASH THE STAFF OR BASH THE Y, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

THAT'S NOT MY MY DISCUSSION IS TO BE WITH THE COUNCIL ONLY.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD HOLD ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS UNTIL I GET THROUGH MY MESSAGE.

IT'LL GO FASTER THAT WAY.

PLEASE, BEFORE I GET INTO REALLY THE MEAT OF MINE, I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE Y SAID THAT I THINK ARE A LITTLE BIT INACCURATE. HE STATED THAT HE WAS HAPPY TO HAVE THE COMPLAINT COME FROM THE CITY FINALLY.

SO THEY GET SOMETHING DONE.

AND BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE AND HOPEFULLY THIS GENTLEMAN WILL UNDERSTAND, IS THE COMPLAINTS STARTED TO THE Y STAFF ON JANUARY THE 9TH AND THEY CONTINUED ALMOST WEEKLY UNTIL WE GOT THE CRESCENDO.

SO TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FINALLY WE HEARD FROM YOU, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THERE WAS JUST NO NO RESPONSE FROM THE STAFF AT THE Y.

[02:00:04]

BUT WHAT'S BEEN OVERLOOKED ARE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES, AND THEY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THAT.

OF COURSE, THE Y IS NOT GOING TO ADMIT TO THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM.

AND I'LL GO ON TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE DUE TO SOCIAL MEDIA, THANK GOD FOR SOCIAL MEDIA IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE HAVE COMPLAINTS THAT CAME IN A HORRIBLE I MEAN, PARTIES BEING RUINED, THEY WOULD GO TO THE DESK, THEY WOULD ASK FOR SOMETHING OR THEY WOULD TELL THE STAFF ABOUT SOMETHING, AND THEY COMPLETELY WERE IGNORED.

AND THIS WAS ONGOING.

AND YOU HAVE WELL, I'LL GET INTO IT IN A MINUTE.

BUT ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID, I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT THE REASON I AM HERE IS THAT I'M ONE OF THE 50,000 TAXPAYERS IN THIS CITY AND PART OWNER IN THAT FACILITY UP THERE.

SO THAT MAKES ME A LANDLORD.

I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WORD THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO PLAY A LITTLE BIT LATER, AND THAT MAKES THE WHY A TENANT AND THAT TERM IS GOING TO COME INTO A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN ADDITIONALLY, MY NAME IS ON THE PLAQUE.

YOU KNOW, I DID SERVE UP THERE DURING A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT PERIOD IN THIS CITY'S HISTORY IN TERMS OF HAVING TO FIGHT STAFF THAT THE STAFF AT THAT TIME.

NO, NOT THE CURRENT STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROJECT GOT TO WHERE IT WAS AND THAT THEY STAYED ON COURSE THE BEST THAT WE COULD.

AND I FELT THAT WE FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.

WE WERE SOME OF YOU UP THERE WERE IN IT WITH ME.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD SOME RAVE REVIEWS ABOUT THE FACILITY.

SO I GUESS WE WE GOT IT DONE.

BUT TO HAVE IT TO HAVE WHAT'S HAPPENED RECENTLY GO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND THE OPERATIONS IS JUST AN EMBARRASSMENT.

IT'S A BLACK EYE FOR THE WHY.

IT'S A BLACK EYE FOR THE CITY, A BIG BLACK EYE.

AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS QUICKLY.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME, BY THE WAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE BUDGET.

REMEMBER, I USED TO WORK IN HOLLYWOOD IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, TALK ABOUT IT IS THE WORST ACCOUNTING.

DID YOU KNOW THAT BARBIE'S HIT $1 BILLION AND WILL NOT MAKE A PROFIT? THAT'S HOLLYWOOD ACCOUNTING.

WELL, I'M BEGINNING TO THINK THIS IS SIMILAR.

OKAY. THERE ARE SOME THINGS JUST NOT ACCOUNTED FOR.

BUT ANYWAY, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

SO REMEMBER, WE'RE WE'RE PAYING $3.2 MILLION A YEAR IN DEBT SERVICE ON THIS BUILDING.

WE WILL BE FOR THE NEXT 26 YEARS.

IT ADDS A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION TO OUR TAX RATE.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE REASONS THAT WERE GIVEN ABOUT WHY THE Y WAS OPERATED. IT IT'S JUST I MEAN, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT ANYWAY, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THREE VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT TONIGHT.

ONE IS THE CITY EMPLOYEE, MARK LONG.

WHERE IS HE? MARK LONG AROUND HERE, ANYWHERE.

MARK LONG IS OUTSIDE.

OKAY. THAT GENTLEMAN HAD A HAD A TASK PUT BEFORE HIM THAT WAS HOPELESS.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY IT WAS HOPELESS.

WE'LL GET AROUND TO THAT SHORTLY.

THE SECOND PERSON WAS SAL CARUSO, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF HIS SOCIAL MEDIA SITE, WHICH IS THE BEDFORD VIEWPOINT THAT HAS 1300 MEMBERS.

AND I MIGHT REMIND YOU, ON THE COUNCIL, THAT'S AN ELECTION.

OKAY, THOSE ARE VOTERS.

AND IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE SIGHT LIKE SOME OF YOU THINK AT ALL.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU EXCEPT DR.

ROB IS A IS A MEMBER.

IT'S A VERY NEUTRAL SITE.

IT HAS A LOT TO PROMOTE, BEDFORD.

AND BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CRESCENDO OF COMPLAINTS HIT THERE, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, YOU REALIZE THAT THEY WERE ON NEXT DOOR. AS WELL AS THE BEDFORD NEIGHBORHOOD SITE.

THE COMPLAINT STARTED VERY EARLY ON AND IT SEEMED TO BE IGNORED.

AND I WANT TO EXHORT YOU ALL TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO COMPLAINTS.

I MEAN, EVEN LOOK, WE KNOW I'VE BEEN UP THERE.

THERE THERE ARE CHRONIC COMPLAINERS IN THIS CITY.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET EMAILS FROM THEM.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET CALLS, WHATEVER.

THEY'RE GOING TO POST THE SAME THING.

AND IN FACT, I WANT TO I WANT TO I WANT TO QUOTE SOMETHING THAT SAL CARUSO HAS SAID.

THERE'S THREE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.

THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE BASICALLY THE CITY CAN DO NO WRONG.

I CALL THEM CITY GROUPIES.

THERE'S A SECOND GROUP THAT BEDFORD CAN DO NO RIGHT.

AND THAT'S TRUE.

YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO THINGS RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE THIRD GROUP.

AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT I'M A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP, THAT THE CITY DOES A LOT, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

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YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT MANY TIMES IT AMOUNTS TO NOTHING.

IT'S LOCALIZED.

IT'S JUST INDIVIDUALIZED.

BUT BUT THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN IT CAN LEAD TO SOMETHING.

NEED I REMIND SOME OF YOU THAT SERVED ON THE COUNCIL WITH ME HOW IT TURNED OVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLETELY FROM THE CHIEF ON DOWN DUE TO A COMPLAINT.

THAT I RESPONDED TO.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMPLAINT THAT CAME IN THAT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT RESPONDED TO THAT DEALT WITH AN ILLEGAL STRUCTURE BUILT IN THE BACKYARD OF A HOME, FACING A HOME BEHIND IT THAT THE CITY IGNORED FOR YEARS.

BUT THE DRAINAGE FROM AND IT WAS ANOTHER HOUSE BEHIND THE HOUSE AND THE DRAINAGE FROM THAT KEPT FLOODING THE YARD BEHIND IT.

AND THE OWNER OF THAT HOME HAD CONSTANTLY CONTACTED CODE HAD CONTACTED CITY BUILDING.

AND THEY WERE THEY WERE IGNORING HER.

THEY WERE PUSHING IT OFF ON EACH OTHER.

WELL, THIS PERSON, THE OWNER OF THAT HOME, WORKED FOR A MAJOR LAW FIRM DOWNTOWN, AND THEY WERE GETTING READY TO SUE THE HELL OUT OF THE CITY.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND BROUGHT MORE ATTENTION TO THE ABUSES BY OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR CODE DEPARTMENT.

JUST IGNORANT, JUST IGNORING THINGS.

AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY MINOR IS WHEN WE FLIPPED.

I HAD TO FLIP THE PLAN ON THE PARK TO WHERE THE FACILITY WAS BUILT BEHIND ADJACENT TO RESIDENCES INSTEAD OF ON THE CORNER.

NO ONE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE ON THE HOMES THAT BORDERED IT.

SO THERE WAS A COMPLAINT THAT CAME IN FROM KEITH WALTERS AND HIS THERE WAS A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS THERE, ACTUALLY, AND JIMMY AND I MET OUT THERE, I THINK CULVER ALSO AS WELL.

AND AS A RESULT, THE WALL WAS PUT UP.

IT WAS IT WAS VALID.

SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT A COMPLAINT IS GOING TO LEAD TO.

YOU THINK IT'S NIGGLING, IT'S MINOR, BUT PLEASE PAY ATTENTION.

SO I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT SAL SAID EARLIER.

YOU DO WORK FOR THE CITY, YOU DON'T WORK FOR THE STAFF, AND WE EXPECT YOU TO WORK FOR THE CITY.

AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHERE WHERE I THINK YOU FELL DOWN.

AND IT'S NOT CRITICISM.

I'M JUST GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH.

THIS IS FACTUAL INFORMATION.

SOME OF YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

IF YOU WORKED WITH ME ON THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW THAT I LOOK AT THINGS A LOT DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST OF YOU, AND THAT'S MY BUSINESS BACKGROUND.

I HAVE A MENTOR, MY MY MAIN MENTOR GROWING UP AND I WORKED FOR LARGE CORPORATIONS MOST OF MY CAREER.

MY MAIN MENTOR SAID, YOU MEASURE SOMETHING OR LOOK AT SOMETHING BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RED FLAGS.

YOU KNOW, THE RED FLAGS TELL YOU A LOT.

FEW RED FLAGS TELLS YOU THAT MAYBE YOU'RE HEADED IN A GOOD DIRECTION OR YOU'VE GOT A GOOD DEAL GOING.

AND MAYBE IF YOU CAN RESOLVE THOSE RED FLAGS OR MOST OF THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WINNER.

A LOT OF RED FLAGS TELLS YOU YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND HOW MANY CAN YOU WORK THROUGH AND THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL IF YOU CAN GET A LOT OF THOSE CLEARED OUT. YOU CAN'T.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE GIVEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS ON USING THE Y.

AND I'M GOING TO POINT OUT THE RED FLAGS.

AND I WANT YOU JUST TO REFLECT ON WHAT TRANSPIRED THERE.

BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT LED UP TO TO THIS AND ME GETTING INVOLVED AND EVEN LOOKING I MEAN, WHEN I SAW ALL OF THIS COME IN, WE DID A FOIA REQUEST THAT GOT A STRING OF EMAILS.

NOW I'VE GOT A STACK OF EMAILS HERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

I'VE JUST PICKED A FEW HERE.

IT'S INTERESTING, WHEN I WORKED ON THE APARTMENTS, WE GOT 9000 PAGES WORTH OF DOCUMENTS FROM FOR YOU.

WE ONLY GOT 282 HERE.

SO, EVERYBODY'S AFRAID, I GUESS, TO PUT THINGS IN WRITING ANYMORE.

SO THERE'S AN EMAIL HERE.

I THINK COUNCILPERSON DAWKINS IS THE ONLY MEMBER THAT I'M AWARE OF, OF, OF THE FACILITY.

AND I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT IN JANUARY YOU MENTIONED TO THE CITY MANAGER THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

THIS WAS JANUARY THE 9TH.

THEY HAD BARELY BEEN OPENED AND THERE WAS ALREADY A PROBLEM.

AND BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY, WELL, I'LL GET TO IT IN A MINUTE, BUT.

THAT ON JANUARY THE 9TH THE CITY MANAGER SENT TO MARK LONG THE FOLLOWING EMAIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M NOT SURE THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT I'M GETTING SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CENTER.

I KNOW IT'S THEIR THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I WASN'T SURE IF I SHOULD TELL YOU.

AND YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH JESSICA.

WELL, WHO WOULD YOU TELL? IS THAT OKAY? I WAS JUST TOLD BY A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THE FLOORS ARE PRETTY DIRTY, ESPECIALLY THE WORKOUT FLOOR AND THE STEPS, TOO.

AND THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS SAID.

THAT WAS ALL THE DIRECTION HE WAS GIVEN.

WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN.

SO, MARK AND FOLLOWING EMAILS, HE WENT OUT THERE AND HE LOOKED, AND HE TALKED TO JESSICA, HE TALKED TO OTHER STAFF.

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SO, YOU KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN SAYS GO TELL THE STAFF.

I MEAN, I THINK THE COMMENT WAS HAVING MEMBERS REPORT PROBLEMS. WELL, I'VE GOT EMAILS HERE THAT SHOW THAT PEOPLE DID REPORT PROBLEMS, INCLUDING THE STAFF, AND THEY WERE IGNORED.

WE HAVE PROOF OF THAT.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT MR. LONG. IT'LL BE VERY CLEAR WHEN I GET TO THE END OF THIS.

HAD HIS HANDS TIED AND.

BUT HE KEPT GOING BACK AND BACK AND BACK AND HE KEPT GETTING.

I ACTUALLY BEGAN TO FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.

BUT, BOY, HE WAS A TROOPER.

HE KEPT HANGING IN THERE AND THE LIST OF THINGS KEPT GETTING LONGER AND THE INITIAL ITEMS HAD NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED.

THEY WERE THEY STILL WEREN'T BEING ADDRESSED.

AND THERE'S EVEN A THIS IS SAD.

IN FACT, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE OF EMAILS HERE.

HE WAS PROBABLY NEAR TEARS.

I'M EXAGGERATING THAT.

MARK, IF YOU HEARD THAT DAMAGE, TALK ABOUT DAMAGE THAT'S NOT WEAR AND TEAR.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS NEGLECT.

AND WE HAVE HERE THIS IS DOCUMENTED BY MARK ACTUALLY ON JULY 17TH DAY CAMP ATTENDEES HAVE DAMAGED SEVERAL WALLS IN THE WEST WING OF THE BUILDING MULTI-PURPOSE AREA.

SOME WALL SCULPTING IS EXPECTED, BUT THE DAMAGE TO THE WALLS IS A LACK OF OVERSIGHT BY CAMP COUNSELORS.

I OBSERVED A CAMPER PEELING PAINT OFF A WALL IN FRONT OF A COUNSELOR WHO WAS DOING NOTHING TO STOP IT.

NOTHING TO STOP IT.

I SPOKE TO THE COUNSELOR AND ASKED THAT SHE TALK TO THE CHILD.

COUNCILOR BASICALLY LOOKED CONFUSED AND BRUSHED ME OFF.

I ASKED THE CHILD TO STOP, CAME BACK A FEW MINUTES LATER TO THE SAME CHILD STILL PEELING THE PAINT.

THAT CHILD SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THAT CAMP AND NOT ALLOWED BACK.

I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

OR IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

I MEAN IT.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT APPEARED THAT DANNY AND HE WORKED FOR HE WORKS FOR THE Y WAS RECEPTIVE TO THE FEEDBACK, BUT IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT HE DID NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE IN NOTICING THE OBVIOUS FLAWS OF THE BUILDING, THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE.

HE ADMITTED THAT HE AND FELLOW MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO HAVE MORE OF A CRITICAL EYE WHEN WALKING THE BUILDING TO INSPECT FOR CLEANLINESS.

WELL, ACCORDING TO A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN THE EMAILS, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, EXCEPT FOR I'LL GIVE YOU ONE FINAL EMAIL, IS THAT THE STAFF WAS NOT WALKING.

THEY WERE NOT SUPERVISING.

FINALLY MARKS CLOSING COMMENTS OR LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT.

THERE WAS DAMAGE TO THE WALLS.

OKAY. PLAY. YEAH. HIS FINAL COMMENT WAS WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT IS A CITIZEN OF BEDFORD I'M VERY PROUD OF.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ISSUES ABOVE BELONG TO THE Y OR THE CITY.

NOW, WHY DIDN'T HE KNOW THAT? THE WIRE OF THE CITY.

WELL, CITY MANAGER TOLD THEM IT WAS THE IT WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE Y.

OKAY, KEEP IN MIND, LANDLORD TENANT.

I'M GETTING READY TO GO THERE IN A MINUTE.

FINALLY, THIS ALL CAME TO A CRESCENDO BECAUSE ON THE VIEWPOINT, SAL CARUSO ASKED A VERY BASIC QUESTION WHY HAS BEEN OPEN SIX MONTHS? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, I'M SUMMARIZING THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT.

WHOA. THE COMPLAINTS CAME IN.

I MEAN, THESE WERE PEOPLE THAT IT JUST ADDED TO WHAT I HAD SEEN ON NEXT DOOR AND ON THE BEDFORD NEIGHBORHOOD PAGE, EXCEPT THAT THESE WERE REALLY MORE DETAILED PARTIES BEING RUINED.

ONE PARTY WAS SCHEDULED TO START AN HOUR BEFORE CLOSING TIME.

THEY GOT THERE.

THE Y DIDN'T HAVE THE ROOM READY, SO IT TOOK THEM 15 MINUTES AT CLOSING TIME INSTEAD OF EXTENDING 15 MINUTES, THEY RAN THEM OUT.

YOU HAVE REPORTS OF JUST BASICALLY RUDE, VERY RUDE BEHAVIOR.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE ON THERE SAYING THEY CANCEL THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

AND THIS IS SIX MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS ON, AND I HAVE TO WONDER, WHERE WAS THE WISE OPERATION? AGAIN, I'M NOT BASHING. I'M JUST GIVING YOU BACKGROUND INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY NOT THAT AT FAULT.

AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHY THE.

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I MEAN, I'VE STARTED A BUSINESS, I'VE STARTED UP AND YOU USUALLY HAVE A CHECKLIST.

YOU LOOK YOU GO TO A NEW RESTAURANT; YOU GO TO A NEW SERVICE PLACE.

AND WHAT DO THEY DO IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS? THEY'VE GOT MORE STAFF THAN THEY NEED, AND IT'S THE BEST FOOD YOU'LL EVER GET OUT OF THAT RESTAURANT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ESTABLISH YOU AS A CUSTOMER.

THE WHY HAD FEWER PEOPLE IN THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THAT WAS VERY CLEARLY DOCUMENTED IN THE EMAILS AND IN THE POST ON FACEBOOK.

SO DR.

GAGLIARDI SAW THE LIGHT AT THE CRESCENDO AND IN RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S BIBLICAL, RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION WENT DOWN TO TAKE A LOOK.

AND WHAT HE SAW WAS WORSE.

I SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES, NOT ONLY THAT HE HAD, BUT THAT MARK LONG TOOK.

MARK LONG. HE'S STILL OUT THERE, ISN'T HE? MARK LONG TOOK SOME PICTURES.

IT WAS I MEAN, I WAS SHOCKED.

A $60 MILLION FACILITY THAT I'M PAYING FOR.

YOU'RE PAYING FOR BEING NEGLECTED AND NOBODY'S AWARE FROM THE WHY OR THEY'RE IGNORING IT.

SO WHAT WAS REALLY BAD ABOUT IT AFTER INFORMATION GOT POSTED IS THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL IN THIS ROOM THAT WANTED THOSE POSTS TAKEN DOWN.

THIS IS SUPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH.

AND THIS IS I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S A SERIOUS REQUEST.

I'M LIKE, I DON'T NAME ANY NAMES TONIGHT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE ABOUT.

I'M ALSO DISAPPOINTED THAT THE WAY THIS ITEM WAS LISTED ON THE AGENDA IN THE PAST YEAR BEEN FIVE ITEMS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL, FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MADE IT ON TO THE AGENDA.

AND THEY WERE NAMED.

AND IT WAS THESE WERE USUALLY IN PART OF THE AGENDA WHERE ACTION COULD BE TAKEN TONIGHT.

THIS WAS INTENTIONALLY, I BELIEVE, PLACED WHERE ACTION COULD NOT BE TAKEN.

YOU DEPRIVED MR. GAGLIARDI OF HIS RIGHT TO POTENTIALLY HAVE ACTION TAKEN TO GET SOME OF THIS CORRECTED.

YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGMENT ABOUT THAT.

SO I SAID, HOW COULD WE HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT? REALLY, HOW DO WE GET TO THIS POINT? AND I WENT BACK, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN OVER TWO YEARS.

I DON'T LOOK AT THE AGENDAS.

I DON'T FOLLOW ANYTHING.

OCCASIONALLY I GET ASKED MY OPINION ON SOMETIMES I HAVE AN OPINION.

MOST OF THE TIME I SAY I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO EVEN COMMENT ON.

I REALLY DON'T.

AND I'M NOT THAT CONCERNED.

I HAVE TRUST THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE JOB THAT YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DO.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU REALLY TO START PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION.

OKAY. SO I SAID, HOW DO WE GET HERE? I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION YOU HAD AND IF I WERE SITTING UP THERE, WHAT WOULD I DO? HOW WOULD I LOOK AT IT ON DECEMBER THE 14TH? 2021, THE CITY MANAGER MADE A PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING GENERAL PARK OPERATIONS AND HE PUT QUITE A FEW THINGS THERE.

AND IT WAS ACTUALLY IT DIDN'T LAST THAT LONG, BUT THERE WERE SOME RED FLAGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

I IDENTIFIED RED FLAGS.

THERE WAS VERY LITTLE COMMENT FROM ANY OF YOU, ACTUALLY.

SO THESE WERE THE RED FLAGS.

THIS IS OVER. YOU STATED BY THE CITY WHAT THE CITY COULD SAVE MONEY WISE.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH TO WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT.

THEY REALLY DON'T. AND THAT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. THAT'S A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND THINGS THINGS CHANGE AND THEY CHANGE DRASTICALLY.

AND IT'S NOT FOR THE IT'S NOT FOR THE WORST, BUT THE RED FLAGS.

OKAY. AT THAT TIME, HOW COULD THE YMCA OPERATE THE FACILITY FOR $300,000 LESS THAN THE CITY? NOBODY EVEN CAUGHT THAT.

NOBODY EVEN THOUGHT TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF OUR STAFF, BUT THEY THEY'RE THE EXPERTS AND THEY CAN DO IT CHEAPER, KEEPING IN MIND THEY HAVE TO PAY DUES OR WHAT ROYALTIES OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT TO TO FORT WORTH.

WHY? AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

AND THEY CAN STILL DO IT FOR $300,000.

LET'S SEE. THAT'S AN EXPENSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE IF WE RAN IT.

SO THEY HAVE SINCE STAFFING IS THEIR LARGEST EXPENSE, THAT THESE COST SAVINGS, WHAT WOULD BE THE STAFF LEVEL? OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR $300,000 LESS.

THAT RAISES A RED FLAG ABOUT STAFFING LEVELS BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR BIGGEST EXPENSE.

NOBODY ASKS ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WOULD BE THE QUALITY OF STAFF AT THOSE PAY LEVELS? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE QUALITY OF THAT? THE CMS STATED THAT THE YMCA OFFERED PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY COULD NOT, AND ONE OF THE BIG ONES WAS SILVER SNEAKERS.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT CITIES THAT HE SURVEYED.

HOWEVER, GRAPEVINE HURST AND NORTH RICHLAND HILLS DO OFFER IT, AND THEY ARE NOT MANAGED BY THE YMCA, WHICH SHOWS THAT WE COULD DO IT NOW.

ALL FAIRNESS, MAYBE HE SURVEYED THE CITIES THAT HE USED TO WORK FOR ROANOKE AND FLOWER MOUND.

THEY DON'T OFFER IT.

OKAY. THEN WE MOVE ON.

MAY 10TH, 2022, COUNCIL MEETING THE RESOLUTIONS TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE THE MANAGEMENT OPERATING AGREEMENT.

THE LIST OF RED FLAGS HERE IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.

AND SO THE OVERVIEW STATES THAT THE CITY WILL PAY FOR THE LIST OF THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT, BUT NO AMOUNT WAS GIVEN.

AND THIS IS TO BE OVER AND ABOVE THE SUBSIDY.

NOBODY ASKS ABOUT THAT, AND IT'S STILL KIND OF A FIGURE OUT THERE THAT'S NOT THAT THEY HAVEN'T FACTORED.

AGAIN, I GO TO THE HOLLYWOOD ACCOUNTING.

IT'S STILL NOT IN THE TOTAL.

YOU ADD WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR IT.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

JUST BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.

AND SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE ASKED, OKAY, THAT'S GOING TO ADD TO OUR LOSS OR OUR SUBSIDY.

NOBODY BOTHERED.

RED FLAGS MADE THE THERE WAS A PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS A SLIDE OR A SLIDE SHOW OR YOU HAD YOU HAD ATTACHMENTS.

I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO.

THERE WASN'T MUCH PRESENTATION.

BUT IN THAT THE THEY LISTED THEIR FULL TIME STAFF, BUT THEY DIDN'T MENTION CLEANING.

PORTER OPS MANAGEMENT AND GENERAL FLOOR MANAGEMENT.

NOW COULD COULD HAVE BEEN ADMITTED, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT LISTED ANYWHERE AND IT WAS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF STAFF.

ALL RIGHT. THE PROJECTED LOSSES WERE GREATER THAN PRESENTED AT THE 1214 MEETING THE PREVIOUS IN 2021.

MY QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE WHAT CHANGED? WHY WHY POINTS TO THE BUDGET PLAN? THEY WILL MANAGE DEFICITS.

THIS IS INTERESTING. OKAY.

THIS IS THIS IS IN THE WISE PRESENTATION.

THE POINTS TO THE BUDGET, THEIR BUDGET PLAN.

THEY WILL MANAGE DEFICITS IN RESPECT TO CITY FINANCES.

HOW? AND THEY SAY BY INCREASING REVENUE.

HOW WILL THEY DO THAT? WELL, THAT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE ADDING MORE PROGRAMS, WHICH MEANS ADDING MORE STAFF OR WHATEVER, OR PRICE INCREASES.

GENERALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE PRICE INCREASES, BUT THEN THEY SAY THEY WILL CUT EXPENSES.

ANOTHER WAY OF DOING IT IS CUT EXPENSES AND STAFF HOURS WITHOUT SACRIFICING SERVICE LEVELS AND CARE FOR THE FACILITY.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THAT AN OXYMORON? I MEAN, IF YOU CUT STAFF AND YOU CUT HOURS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE? I, IN MY WHOLE BUSINESS CAREER, WHICH SPANS NEARLY 50 YEARS, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT WORK OUT BUDGET FOR REGULAR AND MINOR REPLACEMENTS.

AGAIN, I'M BACK ON WHAT YOU WHAT THE WHY WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.

THEY REFER TO SECTION 5.4, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT WAS IN SECTION 5.4? WHAT WAS SPELLED OUT? AND BY BORING YOU, AMY.

I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. THE FACILITIES.

THEIR PRESENTATION INCLUDED TEN FACILITIES THAT THEY MANAGED.

AND IT DID INCLUDE, IN ALL FAIRNESS, OUR OLD Y OUT HERE, THE AIRPORT YMCA.

OKAY. THEIR LARGEST FACILITY WAS 65,000FT², FOLLOWED BY 55 AND 50 K.

ALL THE OTHERS WERE UNDER 30.

K THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THE FACILITY THAT THEY MANAGED WAS 37,600FT².

THAT'S ALMOST A NOT QUITE A THIRD SMALLER, BUT IT'S CONSIDERABLY SMALLER THAN THE SIZE OF THE BEDFORD FACILITY AT 91,000FT².

THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE MANAGING A FACILITY THAT SIZE.

AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RED FLAG TO ASK, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? BUT REMEMBER, THEY REALLY WEREN'T WELL, THEY WERE HERE, BUT OKAY, NONE OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT THEY MANAGE HAS TWO POOLS.

OKAY. NONE OF THEM.

SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE FOR THEM.

AND OURS ARE JUST NOT POOLS.

OURS ARE WATER PARKS BOTH INDOORS AND OUTDOORS.

THAT'S A DIFFERENCE.

OUR FACILITY IS LARGER, HAS TWO POOLS.

WHAT WILL BE THEIR STAFFING LEVELS COMPARED TO THEIR NEXT LARGEST FACILITY? I MEAN, THAT WAS YOUR STARTING POINT AT 65,000, I BELIEVE THAT'S, BENBROOK; IS THAT CORRECT? BENBROOK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BOOT CAMP HAS TWO POOLS, BY THE WAY.

WHICH ONE? OKAY.

IT WASN'T LISTED IN THE IN THEIR INFORMATION, SO.

WELL, I LOOKED I DIDN'T SEE IT.

I WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING ABOUT THREE TIMES SO I COULD HAVE OVERLOOKED IT.

I MEAN, I'M GETTING TO BE AN OLD MAN, SO IT'S POSSIBLE.

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I MEAN, WE'RE WE ARE ONE AND A HALF SIZES LARGER THAN THEIR AVERAGE FACILITY THAT THEY MANAGE.

AND DID THEY BASE THEIR STAFFING ON 65,000 AND HOW DID THEY SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THAT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, THESE ARE RED FLAGS.

THESE ARE THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE ASKED.

THE AVERAGE REVENUE FOR THE FACILITIES WAS $1.4 MILLION.

THE HIGHEST HAS BEEN THE HIGHEST.

BENBROOK IS 2.5 MILLION AND THE LOWEST WAS THE AIRPORT AT 455,000.

OKAY. SO TO GIVE YOU THE DISPARITY, SEVEN OF THE TEN FACILITIES LOSE MONEY.

AND BY THE WAY, ALL OF THE SEVEN OF THE FACILITIES ARE 30,000FT² OR LESS.

THEY'RE SMALL AND REVENUE AND THE LOSSES, I'LL GIVE THEM THIS.

IT WILL VARY BASED UPON LOCATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THE LOCATION THEY SERVE.

AND THEY'RE IN SOME THEY'RE IN SOME AREAS OF NEED, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

AND THEN FINALLY, THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT ATTACHED.

AND I'LL I'LL ADDRESS THAT IN A MINUTE.

HE'S THERE.

THE CITY MANAGER'S THERE TO ASK THAT NIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT.

AND THERE IS NO AGREEMENT FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

RED FLAGS FROM QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS, QUESTION ASKED ABOUT KEEPING THE FACILITY OPEN LONGER ON SATURDAYS FOR EVENTS AND PARTIES.

THE RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY WOULD IF SOMETHING WAS BOOKED, REALITY WAS THEY DID NOT.

AND I ALREADY POINTED OUT EXPERIENCE, SO THEY'VE ALREADY RENEGED ON THAT.

NO ONE COMMENTED OR ASKED IF ANYONE FROM STAFF OR COUNCIL HAD VISITED OR CONTACTED BENBROOK, HOOD COUNTY OR JOSHUA ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE YMCA.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK IN BOTH THESE PRESENTATIONS FROM COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER ABOUT HAVING DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE.

GOT A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE HAVING DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE.

WELL, THAT'S BIG DUE DILIGENCE.

WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT FROM CITIES BEING SERVED ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE WHY? AND I'M NOT TALKING TO THE WHY EMPLOYEES.

I'M TALKING TO THE CITY PEOPLE AND RESPONSIBLE.

WHAT PROBLEMS DID THEY HAVE STARTING OUT WITH THEM? THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED AN ADVISORY BOARD WOULD BE FORMED BUT GAVE NO DETAILS AS TO WHEN.

WE NOW KNOW THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN FORMED.

AND WHEN I GET TO GOING THROUGH THE AGREEMENT, WHICH NONE OF YOU HAVE SEEN, I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET MONEY.

WELL, I HAVE IT.

YOU COULD HAVE ASKED FOR IT, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT.

THE MAYOR ASKED WHERE THE AGREEMENT WAS AND WOULD THEY GET TO SEE IT.

AND VERY QUICKLY THE ANSWER WAS NO.

AND THEN EXCUSE GIVEN TO ME, THAT MADE VERY LITTLE SENSE.

SOMETHING ABOUT SUPPLY CHAIN.

I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY UNUSUAL BASED UPON THE EMAILS THAT WE GOT IN THE FOIA.

I'M CERTAIN THAT SENIOR STAFF AND MARK LONG HAVE NOT SEEN THE AGREEMENT.

IN MY OPINION, THE AGREEMENT IS THE PROBLEM.

NOW, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I DO HAVE 45 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AT SENIOR LEVEL WORKING WITH CONTRACTS AND EXECUTING THEM.

I'VE WORKED WITH INTERNAL CORPORATE, SENIOR LEGAL STAFF.

I'VE WORKED WITH EXTERNAL STAFF.

I'VE WORKED WITH PERSONAL LEGAL COUNSEL.

SO AND I HAVE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CONTRACTS THAT INVOLVED THIRD PARTIES, SERVICE AGREEMENTS.

I'VE BEEN A TENANT, I'VE BEEN A LANDLORD AND ALL OF THOSE.

AND THEN I HAD MY OWN BUSINESS WHERE EVERY JOB THAT I DID WAS A CONTRACT.

SO I DO KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

I'M NOT SAYING I'M AN EXPERT, BUT I DO KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

AND THIS AGREEMENT COULD BE REFERRED TO, IN MY OPINION, AS A WALK AWAY AGREEMENT.

HERE ARE THE KEYS.

WE'RE DONE. AND YOU'LL SEE WHY LATER.

YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF SOME SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE.

THE AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED ON AUGUST THE 3RD.

THERE WERE THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM THE PERIOD OF MAY 10TH TO THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT.

THE AGREEMENT COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BROUGHT TO YOU IN ANY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WASN'T.

YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON AN AGENDA THAT HAS AGREEMENT HAS THE ATTACHMENT.

I MEAN, I WAS ON COUNCIL FOR A LONG TIME.

I CAME TO MEETINGS AND THERE WAS ALWAYS THE AGREEMENT ATTACHED.

NOW THEY'RE NOT THE MOST EXCITING THINGS TO READ.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I READ THEM, AND I DISCOVERED AT ONE POINT AND THIS WAS BEFORE THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER WAS HERE, WAS THAT IN PUBLIC WORKS, A LOT OF THEIR AGREEMENTS DIDN'T

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NOW UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO FINISH IT.

OF COURSE THEY WILL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET PAID.

BUT IN MANY CASES THERE WASN'T EVEN A PAYMENT SCHEDULE BASED ON DELIVERABLES.

AND I POINTED THAT OUT.

I CAN REMEMBER KENNY OVERSTREET UP HERE.

I SAID, KENNY, WHERE'S THE COMPLETION DATE, MAN? HE STARTS THUMBING THROUGH THAT THING.

SO AGREEMENTS AND YOUR REVIEW OF THEM IS VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE OVERSIGHT AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE STAFF IS DOING THEIR JOB.

LET'S LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO BY THE WAY, I WILL SAY THIS.

THE PROBLEM MARK LONG WAS RUNNING INTO WAS THAT IN REPORTING TO THE YMCA STAFF, WHEN HE WAS TELLING THEM THINGS, THEY WERE FULFILLING THEIR OBLIGATION UNDER THE AGREEMENT.

IT JUST SAID MAINTENANCE.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN A MINUTE.

WELL, THEY WERE MOPPING THE FLOORS EVERY NIGHT.

MAYBE NOT VERY WELL, BUT THAT'S THE AGREEMENT DIDN'T REQUIRE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

IN FACT, IT DIDN'T EVEN STATE IT.

I LOOK UP. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, BY THE WAY.

IT'S ONLY 11 PAGES, NOT INCLUDING ATTACHMENTS.

IT'S PLAIN ENGLISH, SO IT'S NICE.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF WEAR. TWO FOURS AND HERE HERETO WHATEVER ALL THE LEGALESE, YOU DON'T NEED A LATIN DICTIONARY TO TO INTERPRET IT.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A YMCA AGREEMENT.

THAT WE PROBABLY MADE SOME CHANGES, TOO.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT IN MY MIND.

THE LICENSING GOVERNMENT AND THIS WAS AND I'M GOING TO REFUTE WHAT WAS SAID TONIGHT CALLS FOR A BOARD OF MANAGEMENT CHOSEN BY THE YMCA, NOT BY THE CITY, BY THE YMCA, FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE BEDFORD AREA.

FURTHER, THE COUNCILOR DESIGNATED COMMITTEE MAY NOMINATE UP TO THREE OF THE LOCAL BOARD OF MANAGERS.

THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.

IT COULD HAVE STARTED LATE LAST YEAR.

THIS BOARD COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OPERATION OF THAT STAFF GOING FORWARD, BUT THE YMCA FAILED TO IMPLEMENT IT.

WHOEVER'S IN OPERATIONS THERE.

AND THEN THE CITY DID NOT DID NOT ASK THEM, SAY, HEY, GUYS, CAN WE GET THIS GOING? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS A WALK AWAY AGREEMENT.

PARDON ME? I KEEP HITTING THAT.

I'LL HAVE TO. IT'S A WALK.

TOTALLY A WALK AWAY AGREEMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT HAVE AVOIDED THE PROBLEMS IF THERE WAS A GROUP OF CITIZENS WORKING WITH THE WISE STAFF THERE LOCALLY HELPING TO POINT OUT.

AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN, I THINK IT WAS TOM JENKINSON, MENTIONED MAYBE CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS.

WELL, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR CITIZEN VOLUNTEER GROUP, BUT IT DID NOT HAPPEN.

WE DROPPED THE BALL.

THEY DROPPED THE BALL.

WE DROPPED THE BALL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GO BACK TO THEM ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYONE OTHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER SAW THE AGREEMENT.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE TERM FIVE YEARS AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS FOR FIVE-YEAR PERIODS, SO WE'RE IN TUNE FOR 25 YEARS.

EITHER PART CAN ELECT TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT WITH A ONE-YEAR WRITTEN NOTICE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE UPCOMING COMING RENEWAL TERM.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BACK UP A MINUTE.

MEMBER. I SAID LANDLORD, WE'RE ALL LANDLORDS, ALL OF US THAT LIVE IN BEDFORD AND PAY TAXES.

THOSE OF YOU WE'RE THE LANDLORDS.

WE OWN THAT BUILDING.

THE Y IS A TENANT.

THERE. THIS IS NOT A LANDLORD TENANT AGREEMENT AT ALL.

NORMALLY WHERE YOU WOULD SEE A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS BECAUSE I'VE DONE THEM WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THIS THERE, YOU WOULD START OUT WITH LANGUAGE THAT SAID THE CITY HEREAFTER REFERRED TO AS LANDLORD DOES BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WITH THE YMCA HEREAFTER REFERRED AS THE TENANT IN CONSIDERATION FOR ZERO RENT, WILL, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THESE VARIOUS MANAGE AND PROVIDE THESE VARIOUS SERVICES.

AND WHEN YOU GET A TENANT LANDLORD AGREEMENT, YOU GET REMEDIES.

THERE'S PROTECTION FOR BOTH PARTIES.

THERE ARE NO REMEDIES IN HERE.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO CLEAN THE BUILDING IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.

WE HAVE NO GROUNDS TO TO REQUIRE OR NO PENALTIES.

BUT I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO THIS IS THE OTHER THING, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT AGREEMENTS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A SERVICE LIKE THIS AND THAT YOU CAN'T AVOID INTERRUPTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PREPARED TO PUT A REPLACEMENT EITHER STAFF OR ANOTHER COMPANY IN PLACE.

SO IT'S REALLY CRITICAL.

BUT THERE'S NO LANGUAGE SPELLING OUT THAT THE YMCA HAS ANY OBLIGATION TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS DURING THE NOTICE PERIOD OF

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THERE IS NO PROTECTION, THEY SAY.

NOW, YOU CAN SAY THERE'S INTERPRETATION.

I'VE DONE THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS.

SO THEY WOULDN'T DO IT.

THEY WOULDN'T DO IT, I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE THEM MORE.

BUT THEY COULD OR THEY COULD BEGIN TAILING OFF THEIR SERVICES TOWARD THE END OF THAT YEAR, AFFECTING THE REVENUE AND THE CONDITION OF THAT FACILITY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO DO THAT.

THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CONTINUING IN BUSINESS WITH US, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN LOSSES OR THEIR EXPENSES OR LOSSES. THEY'LL DECREASE IT.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE. I WOULD CITY USE CITY ACTIVITIES.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE FACILITY AFTER HOURS FREE OF CHARGE.

OKAY. BASED ON THE OPERATING HOURS, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME MIDNIGHT RAID PARTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE OPEN TILL 10:00 EVERY NIGHT.

SO EXCEPT ON THE WEEKENDS.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF THIS FACILITY AND HOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO TO HAVE IT SERVE AS A COMMUNITY, REALLY A COMMUNITY FACILITY IS WE TALKED UP THE BENEFIT OF USING THE FACILITY AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, A WARMING OR COOLING CENTER AS NEEDED. THIS IS NOT IN THE AGREEMENT, NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT, MAINTENANCE, JANITORIAL SERVICE AND HOUSEKEEPING AT ALL TIMES.

DURING THE TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE YMCA WILL KEEP AND MAINTAIN THE CENTER OUTDOOR AQUATICS FACILITIES AND ALL OF HERBERT'S WHATEVER IN GOOD CONDITION OR REPAIR, INCLUDING THE MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRIC FACILITIES.

EXCEPT THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING.

AND WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? DEFINE WHAT CONSTITUTES GOOD CONDITION.

DEFINE ANYTHING THAT I MEAN, THERE'S USUALLY QUALIFIERS.

THERE WOULD BE USUALLY QUALIFIERS.

THERE'S NONE HERE. SO WHEN I SAID THAT BECAUSE THEY MOP THE FLOOR EVERY NIGHT, THEY HAD A JANITORIAL THAT MET THE THAT MET THE CONDITIONS THAT REALLY DID.

NOW, I KNOW I KNOW THAT STAFF'S GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THAT.

BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU GET REDUCE IT DOWN TO ITS PUREST FORM.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

FINANCIALS. THE YMCA WILL MAINTAIN A FUND FOR ANY OTHER SUCH REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENTS, WHICH COST LESS THAN $5,000 PER YEAR.

I'M BEGINNING TO WONDER, AFTER SEEING THE DAMAGES AND THE REPAIRS BUILDING UP, DO THEY WAIT AND LET IT ACCUMULATE? BECAUSE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING OVER 5000? THERE'S NOTHING THAT SPELLS OUT IN THERE THAT THEY COULD THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT THEY COULD DO THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IS REALLY INSPECTION.

OKAY. THE CITY MAY CONDUCT MONTHLY INSPECTIONS OF THE CENTER TO ENSURE ONLY.

BY THE WAY, FIRE SAFETY AND SANITATION.

THAT MEANS FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS, SAFETY BY MAKING SURE ALL OF THE EXIT SIGNS, EXIT DOORS WORK, THE SIGNS ARE ON AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SINCE IT DOES HAVE A KITCHEN OR A WARMING AND THEY DO, I GUESS, SERVE THINGS.

BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CITY STAFF COMING IN THERE FOR REVIEWS.

DOES IT SAY WE CAN LITERALLY GO IN THERE? I MEAN, WE DO.

WE HAVE MARK.

MARK LONG HAS CHRONICLED A LONG LIST OF THINGS.

AND JUST THE LIST JUST KEPT GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING.

BUT HE COULDN'T GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING.

THERE'S NO TEETH IN THIS AGREEMENT.

FINANCIAL SEC INSPECTION.

OKAY. I WENT THROUGH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO PROVISIONS TERMINATION.

NOW, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE TERM.

THIS IS THIS IS SEPARATE OF THE TERM.

IT SAYS THAT DURING THE INITIAL FIVE, THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, THE CITY MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT BY GIVING ONE YEAR PRIOR WRITTEN NOTICE.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS AGREEMENT, THE YMCA MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT BY GIVING AT LEAST ONE-YEAR PRIOR WRITTEN NOTICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS AGREEMENT.

OKAY. UPON TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT BY EITHER PARTY AND TO THE EXTENT ALLOWED BY THE COUNTERPARTY, THE CITY WILL ASSUME ALL THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS ENTERED INTO BY THE YMCA FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CENTER.

SO, THEIR JANITORIAL SERVICE, MAYBE THEIR MAINTENANCE SERVICE, WHATEVER THEY'VE GOT GOING THERE.

DO WE HAVE DO WE KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS WOULD BE IF WE TERMINATED? AND BY THE WAY, AFTER THIS STATES THAT ONLY DURING THE INITIAL FIVE YEAR PERIOD CAN WE TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT BY GIVING ONE YEAR THE I MEAN, IN A WAY IT'S DOUBLE SPEAK WITH WHAT THE TERM IS.

OKAY. USE OF OTHER FACILITIES.

THE CITY HEREBY AGREES THAT THE ADDITIONAL RECREATION AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES OF THE CITY AVAILABLE IN THE VICINITY OF THE CENTER AND OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY SHALL BE AVAILABLE

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DO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE USE OF THOSE? WE DON'T KNOW. NOT APPROPRIATIONS.

THE PARTIES FURTHER AGREE THAT SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL FAIL TO APPROVE A BUDGET THAT INCLUDES SUFFICIENT FUNDS FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, OR SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL FAIL TO CERTIFY FUNDS FOR THE CITY'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FOR ANY REASON? THEN, UPON THE OCCURRENCE OF SUCH EVENT, THE CITY SHALL THEN HAVE NO FURTHER FINANCIAL OBLIGATION TO THE YMCA UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.

THE YMCA, AS REMEDY, SHALL THEN BE TO EITHER TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT OR ASSUME THE CITY'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

THAT IS THE ONLY TIME THE WORD REMEDIES IS USED IN THIS AGREEMENT AND ITS IN FAVOR OF THE Y.

YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE AT THAT MAY MEETING.

YOU KNOW ME BECAUSE I VOTED NO WHEN THE REST OF YOU VOTED YES IS THAT I WOULD HAVE CALLED IMMEDIATELY FOR THE TABLING OF THIS UNTIL WE GET TO SEE THE AGREEMENT.

WHAT ARE THE CHOICES DO YOU HAVE? I MEAN, BUT YOU BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.

I SAID EARLIER, THE SITUATION HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A BLACK EYE FOR BOTH THE YMCA AND THE CITY.

I THINK THE BLACKER EYE, IN MY OPINION, IS ON THE CITY AND A LOT OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE SEVEN OF YOU, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M I WAS UP THERE.

I KNOW. I UNDERSTAND.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO BUT I THINK YOU'VE CEDED TOO MUCH AUTHORITY AND POWER AND TRUST TO THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET US IN TROUBLE GOING DOWN THE ROAD.

THE AND I PERSONALLY FEEL THE PUBLIC TRUST HAS BEEN VIOLATED.

AND I THINK A LOT OF CITIZENS DO BASED UPON WHAT HAS OCCURRED AT THE Y UP TO THIS POINT.

FOR ME, THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN ABOUT THE COUNCIL NOT DOING THEIR JOB, NOT REALLY BASHING.

I'M JUST I JUST READ THROUGH THE FACTS.

AGAIN, I QUALIFIED IT BY STATING I LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DO.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT.

I MEAN, ROB DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I HAD A LIST OF QUESTIONS, AND THEY'D GO SO LATE THAT HE WAS.

THAT'S WHY NOW WE RUSHED TO GET OUT OF HERE PRETTY QUICK.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT I WAS DOING MY JOB.

I REALLY DID.

BY THE WAY, EACH OF YOU ONE OF THERE'S TWO IMPORTANT THINGS I LEARNED AT MY TML TRAINING, AND I HOPE THAT I CAN IMPRESS UPON YOU, NUMBER ONE, WHEN YOU'RE UP, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ON COUNCIL, YOU DON'T GIVE UP YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

THAT WAS THE FIRST THING IN THE OPENING STATEMENT THEY TOLD US AT TML YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ON COUNCIL, YOU DON'T GIVE UP YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

AND THE SECOND THING IS, IS THAT YOU HAVE AN EQUAL VOICE.

YOU ALL HAVE ONE VOTE AND IT'S AS EQUAL AS THE NEXT ONE.

NO ONE HAS MORE POWER THAN YOUR ONE VOTE.

EVERYBODY'S A SINGLE VOTE.

AND LISTEN, I KNOW HOW THINGS WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.

BUT STICK TO YOUR GUNS IF YOU'VE GOT AN ISSUE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO VOTE NO ON SOMETHING OR YOU WANT TO TABLE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO IT.

ROB GAGLIARDI HAD THE RIGHT TO HAVE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM OPEN FOR ACTION TONIGHT, AND HE WAS DEPRIVED OF THAT.

WHO'S IN CONTROL.

IS IT YOU? OR IS IT THE STAFF? I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU TO DECIDE THAT I YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT KIND OF OVERSIGHT WILL YOU NOW GOING FORWARD, DIRECT THE STAFF TO FOLLOW AND REPORT ON GOING FORWARD? I SUGGEST THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU GET WITH THE Y TO MAKE THEM FORM THAT COUNCIL THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

FORGET THE CITY BOARD.

THAT DOESN'T EVEN APPLY HERE.

THERE'S A COUNCIL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER WAY.

THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR MEMBERSHIP ROLLS AND PULL PEOPLE IN OFF OF THAT.

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED YOUR APPROVAL UNDER THAT UNDER THE AGREEMENT.

NOW, YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP THEM FIND SOME BEDFORD BUSINESSES.

YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL NOT TO FORM A SEPARATE BOARD, BUT TO APPOINT UP TO THREE PEOPLE.

DO IT NOW.

HELP THESE PEOPLE.

HELP THEM MAKE THIS FACILITY RIGHT AND MORE SUCCESSFUL.

WHAT GOING FORWARD, WHAT KIND OF REPORTS ARE YOU GOING TO REQUIRE FROM THEM? ABOUT HOW ABOUT A MONTHLY UPDATE AT A COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

I PREDICT.

OKAY. THEY'RE FLOODING OR NOT FLOODING, BUT THEY'RE SWARMING THAT FACILITY RIGHT NOW WITH EXTRA STAFF AND THEY HAVE A VP OF OPERATIONS THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED OUT OF THERE FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

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SO YOU NEED TO CLARIFY, ARE THEY EATING THAT OR ARE WE SHARING THAT OR DOES THAT GO AGAINST WHAT WE OWE THEM? NOT CLEAR. NOT CLEAR AT ALL.

I PREDICT THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.

AND UNLESS THIS AGREEMENT IS AMENDED TO A LANDLORD TENANT AGREEMENT AND THAT IT PROVIDES REMEDIES IF THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING.

WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES FOR THEM? CAN WE GO IN AND THEN AFFECT THE REPAIRS AND THEN DEDUCT THAT FROM WHAT WE OWE THEM FROM A SUBSIDY? YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LANDLORD TENANT.

SAYS, WILL YOU REQUIRE STAFF TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE INSPECTION REPORT TO BE FILLED OUT WITH THE YMCA AND KEPT FOR CITY RECORDS? I THINK IN THE AGREEMENT YOU REQUIRE THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT THE CITY CAN WALK IN UNANNOUNCED ANY TIME AND PERFORM AN INSPECTION.

WE OWN THE BUILDING.

WE'RE THE LANDLORD.

IF YOU WERE RENTING PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE THE LANDLORD'S RIGHT.

IT WOULD BE IN YOUR LEASE.

AND THIS IS A LEASE.

IT'S JUST NOT A THIRD PARTY AGREEMENT.

IT WAS WRITTEN AS A THIRD PARTY SERVICE AGREEMENT.

AND BUT THEY OCCUPY A FACILITY THAT IS CITY OWNED.

SO THAT CHANGES IT.

YOU KNOW, A THIRD PARTY SERVICE AGREEMENT.

I'VE DONE FULFILLMENT AGREEMENTS.

THEY DIDN'T THEY WEREN'T ON MY PREMISES.

THEY USED THEIR OWN FACILITY.

SO THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

AND THIS WOULD BE THIS WOULD FIT SOMETHING MORE LIKE THAT.

WILL YOU ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE AGREEMENT SO THAT THE CITY IS BETTER PROTECTED AND SERVED WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE WHY? NOTHING REQUIRED. THE I YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED.

THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT.

IN MY OPINION. IT NEEDS TO BE EXACTING.

SO I LOOK, I DRIVE BY THE BUILDING.

I'M, YOU KNOW, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT A MEMBER AND I DON'T INTEND TO JOIN.

IT DOESN'T MEET MY NEEDS.

I BELONG TO A GYM.

THERE'S A $10 A MONTH GYM.

THERE ARE $10.

I SAW THAT. THAT WAS DENIED IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A $10 GYM OR NOT, BUT THERE ARE THERE'S SEVERAL PLANET FITNESS, FITNESS CONNECTION, THE 24 HOUR GYM DOWN HERE NEXT TO THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THE ONLY ONE I KNOW IN USE, THE NEW ONE IN GLADE PARK, LA FITNESS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I THINK IS NOT A BRANDED ONE ANYWAY.

THAT IS NOT A $10 A MONTH GYM.

IT'S $13 WITH FEE.

IF YOU YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO SWIM AND I DON'T NEED YOU KNOW, I'M AT THE AGE I DON'T WANT TO MIX WITH KIDS.

[LAUGHTER] BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT THE YMCA.

YOU KNOW, ALLOCATING.

THEY HAVE A MODEL AND ALLOCATING BASED UPON HOURS THEY HAVE.

THIS FORMULA WORKS IN THEORY, BUT THIS IS A FACILITY THAT GOES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN USED TO DEALING WITH.

I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE TO ADMIT THAT 91,000FT² WITH TWO LARGE POOLS AND A LARGE SUMMER CAMP AND I THINK THEIR MODEL DIDN'T WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ANY TIME THERE SHOULD BE AN EXTRA STAFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE OPENING AND TO HELP IRON OUT THE BUGS.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS NOT BUGS.

THIS IS PURE OPERATIONAL.

BUGS, ARE, OKAY, OUR SYSTEM'S DOWN, AND WE CAN ENROLL YOU AND TAKE YOUR MONEY AS A MEMBER, OR THE PHONES ARE DOWN OR THE MONITORS AREN'T WORKING.

AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THINGS ARE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MONITOR LITERALLY CUSTOMER RELATIONS ISSUES.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ADMIT IT, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T DEAL WITH IT.

NOW, GRANTED, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM, BUT THE PEOPLE USING THE Y DID.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.

SOME OF THEM, YEAH ARE OFF THE WALL.

I AGREE. BUT SOME OF THEM ARE GENUINE AND IT BRINGS UP POINTS OF DISCUSSION FOR THEN THE CITY TO GO BACK TO THE Y WITH.

AND SOME OF THEM MAY BE UNFOUNDED, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU ASK.

AND THE MAIN THING IS POOR OLD MARK LONG IS GIVE HIM SOME TEETH WHEN HE GOES IN THERE.

IF JIMMY OR THE CITY MANAGER HAS APPOINTED HIM AS THE POINT PERSON, WHICH HE OBVIOUSLY DID FROM JANUARY THE 9TH, THEN GIVE HIM SOME TEETH TO ENFORCE WHAT HE'S SEEING.

THE OTHER THING IS, AND FINALLY THAT I WILL CLOSE, IS THAT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING, THE VERY LITTLE INFORMATION FROM STAFF.

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THE FIRST NOTED INFORMATION WAS ON JULY 17TH, THREE DAYS BEFORE DR.

GAGLIARDI WENT IN THERE AND HIS FRUSTRATION REACHED LEVEL.

HE FINALLY REACHED OUT TO, I GUESS, THE TWO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND WHATEVER.

AND I THINK WHO'S AT ALTON, WHATEVER HIS NAME IS, ONE OF THE MORE PROMINENT CITIZENS OF BEDFORD THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED.

HE WAS A USER AND HE DOCUMENTED THREE PAGES OF PROBLEMS AND WHICH BASICALLY MIRRORED WHAT MARK SAW.

YOU KNOW, MARK WAS FRUSTRATED GUY.

THE GUY WAS DOING IT TRYING TO REALLY I MEAN, HE JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY HAIR.

HE PULLED IT ALL OUT OVER THIS.

NO OFFENSE, MARK, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE.

I MEAN, THIS IS LOOK, GUYS, I'M JUST ASKING YOU, YOU KNOW, THE YMCA IS.

THERE YOU GO. LOOK, YOU HAVE OPTIONS.

INITIALLY, YOU HAD THE OPTION TO OPERATE THE FACILITY YOURSELF, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CM'S JOB, THE CITY MANAGER'S JOB TO GO OUT AND FIND A PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

HE DID FOR EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

AND YOU HAVE SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS RUNNING AROUND US WITH GRAPEVINE, NORTH RICHLAND HILLS AND HURST, WHERE THE FACILITIES ARE BETTER MAINTAINED AND OPERATIONALLY UP TO THIS POINT. AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS WITH CITY STAFF.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FINANCIALS ARE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

SO YOU OPTED TO LOOK AT SAVING MONEY AND NOW YOU KIND OF GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING INTO EFFECT.

BUT I THINK IT CAN BE I THINK IT CAN BE CORRECTED.

I'M OPTIMISTIC, IT CAN BE.

BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A DIFFERENT AGREEMENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE Y IS AMENABLE TO CHANGING THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE, HAS TO DECIDE, THAT'S NOT MY JOB BECAUSE I'M NOT UP THERE AND THE CITY MANAGER REPORTS TO YOU.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING LOOKS NICE.

I SEE IT AS I DRIVE BY.

HARWOOD IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

PARKS GREAT.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOST A COUPLE OF SEASONS OF THE BASEBALL FIELDS REVENUE, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.

BUT PLEASE, PLEASE, GUYS.

TALK ABOUT DUE DILIGENCE.

START LOOKING FOR RED FLAGS, WILL YOU, PLEASE? THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, THESE WERE SIMPLE.

I JUST.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

AGAIN, I THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU AND I LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THAT'S MY BUSINESS TRAINING, SO PLEASE START.

PLEASE. AND THEN DON'T BE AFRAID OR BE INTIMIDATED OUT OF EXPRESSING YOUR VOICE.

THE PEOPLE THAT SIT OUT HERE IN THE 12 THAT ARE WATCHING FROM HOME EXPECT YOU TO DO THAT.

SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE, PLEASE DO THAT.

DID YOU SAY 12? I FIGURE I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK ANIMAL PLANET'S ON RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE COMPETING WITH THAT.

[LAUGHTER] SO THAT'S TOUGH TO COMPETE WITH.

ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

AGAIN, I'M NOT ANGRY AT THE Y.

I'M NOT ANGRY AT STAFF.

I'M REALLY MORE KIND OF PUT OUT WITH YOU GUYS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH SOME OF YOU.

I KNOW WHAT YOUR CAPABILITIES ARE, BUT I ALSO KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENE, TOO.

AND I WON'T GO THERE.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

ONLY YOU CAN MAKE IT RIGHT BY GIVING DIRECTION TO YOUR ONE OF YOUR ONLY EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER.

MIGHT WANT TO ASK WHY THE AGREEMENT YOU DIDN'T COME BACK WITH THE AGREEMENT.

ANYWAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, TOM. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE PERSON.

WE HEARD WE'VE GOT MR. KEITH WALTER.

WELCOME BACK, KEITH.

OH, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH.

MAY I SPEAK? THAT'S A LOT TO UNPACK, SO I'M PREPARED, BUT I'LL BE BRIEF.

IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, IF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID WAS ACCURATE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO BULLDOZE THE BUILDING.

BUT I WANT TO START OUT BY FIRST SAYING THAT WE WERE REQUESTED TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IT WAS NOT AN ACTION ITEM.

SO TO INSINUATE IT WAS AN ACTION ITEM.

I KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN OUT OF POCKET FOR TWO YEARS, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LOT OF LIBERTY ON A LOT OF MISINFORMATION.

BUT THE REALITY IS WE WERE NOT ASKED TO HAVE IT AS ACTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO'S ITEM IS NOT FOR ACTION.

THE REASON IT'S LISTED, HIS NAME IS BECAUSE IT IS ONLY INTERNAL STAFF THAT IS SPEAKING VERSUS THE YMCA.

I'LL TELL YOU AND I PROMISE I'LL BE BRIEF.

BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF, I THINK, QUESTIONS, ETHICS AND CREDIBILITY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE AGREEMENT, THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT WHICH COUNCIL HAS SEEN WAS IN THE MAY 10TH AGENDA THAT THE SPEAKER MENTIONED EVERY

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AND I UNDERSTAND. I'M GOING TO I WILL HAVE A RESPONSE.

WELL, IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR.

BUT MAY 10TH, HE'S THE BOSS.

THAT'S WHY I DEFER TO THE MAYOR.

I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO MAY 10TH, EVERYTHING IS IN THERE.

ANYONE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE, PLEASE GO LOOK AT THE MAY 10TH, 2022 AGENDA ITEM.

THE REASON THAT IT WAS PASSED AND AND I WAS GIVEN AND STAFF IS TYPICALLY GIVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDAS AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITHIN PARAMETERS IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET THE EQUIPMENT ORDERED BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN, JUST LIKE THE ANTENNAS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES VEHICLES, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

THE PRO FORMA THAT THE COUNCIL WAS FACED WITH, THAT I RECEIVED WHEN I GOT HERE, THE CITY WITH A COMPETENT STAFF WAS GOING TO HAVE A $900,000 DEFICIT.

SO TO SAY THAT EVERY YMCA HAS A DEFICIT, I DON'T KNOW OF A CENTER ANYWHERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A DEFICIT.

IT'S CALLED LACK OF COST RECOVERY.

THE SPEAKER MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GOING TO SAVE $300,000.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NUMBER CAME FROM.

IT'S ACTUALLY $600,000.

THAT'S FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD.

I KNOW YOU'RE OUT OF POCKET FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THERE WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

THERE WERE IT WAS ALL OVER THE AGENDAS.

WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING MORE THAN $700,000.

THE REASON IN THAT JANUARY EMAIL I'VE REACHED OUT TO MARK LONG AND SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THE BEST ONE BECAUSE THERE WAS A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD WHEN GARY JOHNSON WAS WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR WITH THE Y ON FIXING THINGS, AND MARK WAS BASICALLY THROWN IN THERE.

AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO HAVE KIND OF TWO MASTERS.

I WANT TO SIMPLIFY DIRECTION AND SO WE CAN ALL KEEP EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE.

A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THEY TALKED ABOUT SCALING BACK EXPENSES IF THEY NEEDED TO.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS BECAUSE WHAT WE TOLD THEM IS IF THE REVENUES ARE NOT WHERE THEY ARE, MR. JACOBSON MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK HE'S GONE, THAT THIS HAS EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS.

THIS IS A LOT MORE MEMBERS THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

AND THE WAY TO INCREASE REVENUES IS OBVIOUSLY TO INCREASE MEMBERS.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WAS YOU MENTIONED HOW THE CITY MANAGER WAS TASKED WITH FIXING THIS PROBLEM.

MR. BURNETT AND OTHERS TALKED ABOUT HOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPETENT STAFF TO RUN THE FACILITY.

AND SO I CAME BACK WITH A POSSIBLE SOLUTION THE COUNCIL APPROVED WITH EYES WIDE OPEN.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS IT WAS SAID THAT THIS SHOULD BE A LANDLORD TENANT AGREEMENT.

WELL, IF YOU'RE A TENANT, WHY DON'T YOU GO ASK YOUR LANDLORD TO MAKE YOU DINNER? A LANDLORD DOESN'T PERFORM SERVICES FOR A TENANT.

I LOVE IT.

IT'S JUST IT'S SO FUNDAMENTAL.

I SHOULDN'T EVEN GO INTO IT BECAUSE I THINK ANYONE THAT KNOWS, KNOWS.

BUT THE REALITY IS WE OWN THE BUILDING.

WE'VE NEVER GIVEN UP RIGHTS TO THE BUILDING.

WE LEASE THE BUILDING TO THEM.

IT'S A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, NOT EVEN REALLY A LEASE.

THEY'RE OPERATING IT FOR US.

WE CONTACTED SEVERAL OF THEIR FACILITIES.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

I LOOKED AT IT A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I WAS WITH A DIFFERENT CITY AND IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE CASH FLOW.

I'M ALMOST DONE, MAYOR. I PROMISE.

A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WAS SAID WAS LEGAL ADVICE.

IT WAS NOT BASED ON FACTS RELATED TO THIS ISSUE.

THE REALITY IS THIS AGREEMENT IS EXCEEDING OUR EXPECTATIONS.

IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, THE COUNCIL STILL HAS ALL THE AUTHORITY.

IT'S OUR BUILDING AND IF WE WANT TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AND THE YMCA SAID, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE TOMORROW, WELL THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR TO STAFF UP.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN OUT OF POCKET FOR A WHILE AND A LOT OF STUFF HAS HAPPENED THAT YOU WEREN'T PRIVY TO.

SO I'M NOT MAD AT YOU. I DON'T BLAME YOU.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION THE FACTS OF THE CASE.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU JUST LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID WITHOUT RESPECT TO THE ACTUAL FACTS, I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT, HEY, MAN, LET'S JUST TEAR IT DOWN.

I'LL STOP. BUT IT'S JUST AND IF ANYONE WANTS ANY FOLLOW UP INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW.

BUT. HEY, YOU GOT BRYN ENGAGED? WELL, I JUST. BRYN MEREDITH.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF LEGAL ADVICE TONIGHT, AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.

LISTEN, I TEND TO FIND THAT A DEBATE OVER LEGAL INTERPRETATION, AND NO OFFENSE WITH A NON LAWYER ISN'T ALL THAT PRODUCTIVE IN OPEN SESSION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF THE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE LEGAL CONCLUSIONS FOR THIS AGREEMENT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO VOLUNTEER MYSELF FOR ORAL ARGUMENT UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE FOR SURE.

I WOULD LIKE TO REBUT THIS.

YOU GOT THE DEAL POINTS.

THAT'S ALL THAT WAS COVERED.

I WENT THROUGH. I WENT THROUGH THAT AGENDA AND ALL THE ATTACHMENTS THREE TIMES I WATCHED THE VIDEO.

AND YOUR COMMENT, MAYOR, WAS, WHERE'S THE AGREEMENT? THESE ARE THE DEAL POINTS.

THEY DON'T COVER EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.

THEY COVER SOME SOME THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL DISPUTE I'VE DONE LANDLORD TENANT AGREEMENTS WITH THIRD PARTY SERVICES AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON AND IT PROVIDES PROTECTION.

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I JUST KNOW THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

I KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND I KNOW WHAT ADVICE I'VE BEEN GIVEN AT VARIOUS LEVELS.

I MEAN, I'VE WORKED FOR FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, AND I'M JUST.

LOOK, YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS INTERESTS HERE, AND I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

AND YOU CAN'T MAKE BROAD INTERPRETATIONS OUT OF SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S SO BROAD.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET IT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO INTERPRETATION BECAUSE I DO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER'S EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

BUT THE YOU KNOW, PLEASE, GUYS.

PLEASE JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS FACILITY WHAT IT CAN BE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.

OVERSIGHT. YOU SAW THAT THEY HAD A BIG, BIG HICCUP.

DON'T LET.

LET'S HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER HICCUP AGAIN.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE ENSURED IS THAT IF YOU PUT CONTROLS IN PLACE.

THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, TOM.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE THESE DIALOGS ALL DAY LONG.

EVERYONE'S NOT GOING TO AGREE.

MY PERSPECTIVE MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I'M LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I AM ENCOURAGED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE A WILLING PARTNER TO LOOK BEYOND THAT AGREEMENT.

NOW, GRANTED, MAYBE THAT IS A DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A PARTNER WHO'S WILLING TO SEE THAT SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT TO LOOK BEYOND THAT CONTRACT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND DOING WHAT RIGHT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE Y AND IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK HERE.

AND TOM'S VERY DILIGENT ABOUT HE DOES THESE THINGS, BUT I SEE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER CONVERSATIONS HERE.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

I THINK.

I'M NOT AWARE ANYONE HERE IS SAYING EVERYTHING'S PERFECT.

WE GOT NOTHING TO DO HERE.

I THINK WE WE ALL ADMIT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT HERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH MY PERSPECTIVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE POINTS.

I APPRECIATE IT TOM.

KEITH, I'M SORRY. PLEASE WELCOME.

COME ON DOWN.

I PICKED THE WRONG NIGHTS TO DO THIS? THIS IS WORSE THAN.

YOU PICKED THIS NIGHT. FOLLOWING THE SPECIAL NEEDS CLUBHOUSE THAT ONE TIME.

MY NAME IS KEITH WALTER.

I LIVE AT 2508 LAKEVIEW DRIVE RIGHT HERE IN BEDFORD, TEXAS.

MY HOME IS LOCATED 300 YARDS FROM THIS BUILDING.

200 YARDS FROM THE DUMPSTER.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN IS ACCREDITED WITH A SAYING AND BEFORE IT'S ARGUED, I READ IT ON THE INTERNET.

AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID, EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS TRUE.

[LAUGHTER] AND I THINK THIS QUOTE FITS PERFECTLY TO WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

THE BITTERNESS OF POOR QUALITY REMAINS LONG AFTER THE SWEETNESS OF LOW PRICE IS FORGOTTEN.

I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT NOT TO BASH.

I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CENTER DOING GREAT.

IT IS LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD.

IF THE CITY AND THE YMCA ARE UNABLE TO TURN THIS AROUND, IT WILL HURT MY PROPERTY VALUE.

EVERY TIME THERE'S A COMPLAINT THREAD STARTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA IT HURTS MY PROPERTY VALUE.

WHO WANTS TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS? I DO NOT WISH TO BE PART OF THAT PROBLEM.

I WANT TO HELP WITH A WINNING SOLUTION.

THE YMCA IS DOING WHAT THE YMCA DOES.

THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WITH A SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON THE YOUTH AND UNDERPRIVILEGED.

THAT IS THE VERY DNA OF THE YMCA AND THEY ARE GEARED TO FOLLOW THAT.

WE HANDED OVER THE KEYS TO THE CENTER TO SAVE MONEY.

CITY OFFICIALS SAID THE YMCA COULD RUN THE CENTER A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE CITY COULD, AND THE YMCA HAD MORE EXPERIENCE THAN THE CITY COULD.

AND THE CITY. WE ONLY HOPE THAT WHAT WAS SAID IS TRUE.

AS A TAX PAYING CITIZEN, I EXPECTED MORE FROM A $58 BILLION INVESTMENT IN THE CENTER.

I EXPECTED OUR STATE OF THE ART CENTER WOULD HAVE TRASH DUMPSTERS ON THE FIRST DAY.

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49 DAYS THE CENTER DID NOT HAVE A TRASH DUMPSTER.

49 DAYS THE YMCA EMPLOYEES PLACED TRASH BAGS ON THE GROUND WHERE THE DUMPSTER SHOULD BE.

IN FACT, AS LATE AS JULY 17TH, THERE WERE STILL PROBLEMS DOCUMENTED IN EMAILS CONCERNING THE DUMPSTER AREA.

AND ACCORDING TO THE EMAILS THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM MY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, IN JUNE, CITY STAFF HAD TO APPLY PINE-SOL TO THE DUMPSTER AREA TO HELP WITH THE STENCH AND OTHER ONGOING ISSUES.

THAT IS A HEALTH HAZARD TO THE ENTIRE PARK AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'VE WONDERED THIS YEAR WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVING HUGE RODENT PROBLEM AT MY HOUSE AND I WONDERED WHY I WAS HAVING A LARGE FLY ISSUE AT MY HOUSE.

I'VE NEVER HAD THESE.

I HAVE FOUR RODENT BAIT BOXES IN MY BACK YARD RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING THEM FULL OF RODENT BAIT.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO A CITIZEN IF THEY THREW THEIR TRASH IN THE BACKYARD FOR A MONTH AND A HALF AND LET IT ACCUMULATE? UNDER MY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED TO READ THAT THE FIRST DOCUMENTATION OF A PROBLEM WITH THE CLEANLINESS OF THE BUILDING WAS JANUARY THE 9TH.

IT WAS ONLY MENTIONED BECAUSE AN UNNAMED CITY COUNCIL PERSON MADE THE COMPLAINT.

WE CAN BECOME UPSET, BUT WE MUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND REMEMBER THAT CITY OFFICIALS TOLD US THE YMCA CAN RUN THE CENTER A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE CITY CAN.

AND THAT YMCA IS SAVING THE CITY OF A LOT OF MONEY.

THE AGREEMENT WITH THE YMCA IS LACKING BOTH CARROTS AND STICKS.

THERE ARE NO REWARDS FOR EXCELLENCE AND THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR DEFICIENCIES.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE BOARD OF MANAGERS.

IT WAS NEVER FORMED.

THE CITY, THE COUNCIL AND CITY ADMINISTRATIONS ARE QUICK TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE GOOD STUFF ABOUT THE PARK.

THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS PARK.

BUT THEY ARE ALSO QUICK TO BLAME PREVIOUS COUNCILS FOR PROBLEMS. WE ARE WAY PAST THE BOND AND PLANNING STAGES OF THIS BUILDING.

WE ARE NOW IN THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE PROCESS THAT IS THIS ADMINISTRATION'S AND COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS.

IT WAS THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT FORFEITED THE CENTER AND LIKE A HOT POTATO, HANDLED THE CARE, CUSTODY AND CONTROL OVER TO THE YMCA.

WE, THE CITIZENS, ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE WILLING AND UNWILLING TO DO TO FIX THIS PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KEITH.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, RESPONSE.

USUALLY SOMEBODY ARGUES WITH ME ABOUT THIS.

WE LOVE KEITH.

WE LOVE YOU, KEITH.

I'VE, ARE YOU OKAY? I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THE DUMPSTER WAS DELIVERED IN MARCH, SO IT WAS EARLIER THAN.

YEAH, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I WISH I HAD KNOWN SOONER.

I DIDN'T. BUT I KNOW THERE'S THREE DUMPSTERS OUT NOW.

THERE WAS A CONSTRUCTION DUMPSTER, BUT IT WASN'T BEING USED.

SO I DO APOLOGIZE.

I WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY.

SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

BUT ALSO I WALKED AROUND THE Y TODAY.

THERE IS NO OUTSIDE RODENT CONTROL ON THAT BUILDING WHATSOEVER.

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT EXTERMINATION? [LAUGHTER] I'M ONLY AN ASSOCIATE CERTIFIED ENTOMOLOGIST.

WE WORKED ON THIS INFOMERCIAL.

NO, I'M ONLY.

I'M ONLY AN EXPERT IN URBAN PEST CONTROL.

YOU KNOW I'M JOKING. I WILL TALK WITH THEM WHILE THEY'RE HERE, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ADDRESSED.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT THE PLAGUE IS BACK.

DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT? THE FLY'S FAMILY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HALF THE DEATHS IN WORLD HISTORY.

AND Y'ALL ARE SENDING THEM TO OUR HOUSE.

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

[LAUGHTER] OKAY.

THANK YOU, KEITH. WE APPRECIATE IT.

SO, COUNCIL IT IS 9:11.

DO Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A BATHROOM BREAK FOR FIVE MINUTES? YOU'RE OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE REST OF Y'ALL? Y'ALL ARE GOOD. OKAY, LET'S CONTINUE THEN.

WE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ON PERSONS TO BE HEARD.

LET'S GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS OF NEW BUSINESS.

[11. Consider an ordinance authorizing the issuance of the City of Bedford, Texas Combination Tax and Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2023A; specifying the terms and features of the certificates; providing for the payment of the certificates and resolving other matters incident and related thereto and providing an effective date.]

SO WE WELCOME TO THE DAIS OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, BRADY OLSEN.

THANK YOU. GOOD NEWS.

NOT EVERY DAY YOU CAN ISSUE $17 MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECT FUNDING WITHOUT CHANGING THE CURRENT TAX RATE.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

WE DID PRICE THE BONDS TODAY AFTER ADVERTISING THEM ON JUNE 13TH.

WE HAD FOUR BIDDERS AND THE WINNING INTEREST RATE WENT TO BE OKAY AT A RATE UNDER 4%.

SO 3.98% TO FUND THESE PROJECTS.

WOW THAT'S AMAZING. YES, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FUND THE CENTRAL FIRE STATION, ANIMAL SHELTER RENOVATIONS, A SENIOR CENTER, AMONG VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS, VERY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

OKAY. WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS. THIS IS A DIRECTIVE ITEM.

A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.

WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.

LET'S VOTE.

DON'T DO THAT. I HEARD THAT.

OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

6 TO 0. SO THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU STAFF.

THANK YOU BOND COMMITTEE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

ITEM 12, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH AETNA FOR THE CITY'S EMPLOYEE MEDICAL AND DENTAL BENEFITS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER

[Items 12 & 13]

SO WELCOME BACK OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, STEPHANIE AYERS.

THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO COVER 12 AND 13.

ALL RIGHT. TAKE IT. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M HERE TO.

YOU WANT 14 AND 15 TOO OR NO? OKAY. I'LL PASS ON THOSE.

THANK YOU, THOUGH. I'LL TRADE YOU 12 AND 13 FOR 14 AND 15.

NO. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU THE BENEFIT RENEWAL FOR THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND WELFARE PLANS.

SO I GUESS I'M CONTROLLING THIS, HUH? YES. I DON'T MIND. OKAY.

SO WE CURRENTLY ARE CONTRACTED WITH AETNA AND TEXAS HEALTH AETNA FOR OUR MEDICAL AND DENTAL INSURANCE.

AND THE ANNIVERSARY DATE IS OCTOBER 1ST.

OUR CURRENT LOSS RATIO, WHICH WOULD BE OUR TOTAL CLAIMS DIVIDED BY PREMIUM THAT WE PAY, IS RUNNING ABOUT 89%, AND THEY LIKE IT TO BE AROUND 85%.

SO NOT TOO BAD.

WE RELEASED AN RFP LAST YEAR FOR MEDICAL AND DENTAL INSURANCE AND WE CONTRACTED WITH AETNA.

AND WITHIN THAT CONTRACT THERE WERE FOUR RENEWAL PERIODS.

SO WE STILL WELL, EXCUSE ME, FIVE AND WE RENEWED ONCE.

SO WE HAVE FOUR LEFT, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR RFP.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED.

AND BASED ON THE FAVORABLE RENEWALS THAT WE GOT FROM AETNA FOR THE MEDICAL AND DENTAL PLANS THIS YEAR, WE'RE RECOMMENDING NOT TO DO THAT.

SO MOVING INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS A HISTORICAL RATE OF COST FOR EMPLOYEE PER MONTH.

EMPLOYEE PREMIUM PER MONTH.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT STARTS BACK IN 2016-17, AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE YEARS, WE'VE MANAGED TO REDUCE HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS BY 12%, WHICH IS THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

SO BUT THAT'S ALSO A PRODUCT OF OLDER EMPLOYEES WITH MORE MEDICAL ISSUES DROPPING OFF.

CORRECT. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD OUR SHARE OF.

DON'T SAY. OH, SORRY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE OUR SHARE OF LARGE CLAIMS SO, I MEAN IT'S STILL REALLY WELL.

THAT'S A FANTASTIC AND THEN THE THE BENCHMARK FOR EMPLOYEE PER MONTH COST IS $13,000 RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE AT THE $10,603.

SO WE'RE STILL DOING REALLY WELL.

WHERE DO YOU GET THAT BENCHMARK? OUR BROKER WHOSE HUB GIVES IT TO US WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES.

INTERESTING. YEAH.

SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

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AND THEN THE SECOND FOUR COLUMNS REPRESENT THE RENEWAL THAT AETNA HAS PRESENTED TO US.

SO OUR BROKER, WHEN THEY CAME IN TO US IN MARCH BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED THE RENEWAL PROCESS, HAD PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE ABOUT 11.9% INCREASE AND THEY MANAGED TO GET AETNA TO COME BACK WITH A 4.2% INCREASE.

AND THEN THEY WERE GIVING THEY'RE GIVING US $176,948 PREMIUM CREDIT, WHICH MEANS WHEN WE GO TO PAY OUR BILL FOR HEALTH AND DENTAL IN OCTOBER, WE'LL HAVE THAT CREDIT TO TAKE ON THAT BILL.

SO BASICALLY, THAT BRINGS US IN AT A DECREASE OF ABOUT $11,000, $32,000.

I'M SORRY. HOW MANY TOTAL EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE NOW? 400? NO.

350. ABOUT 350? YEAH. SO 282 HAVE SELECTED ARE ENROLLED IN INSURANCE.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE OUR RETIREES, THOUGH.

SO WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT.

15 MAYBE, BUT ONLY PROBABLY ABOUT 4 OR 5 OF THOSE ARE ON MEDICAL INSURANCE.

SO. OKAY.

SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS REPRESENT OUR CURRENT PLANS PLAN DESIGN, AND THEN THE SECOND TWO.

I'M SORRY, I HAVE THAT BACKWARDS.

THIS IS JUST REPRESENTING PLAN DESIGN CHANGES.

SO FOR THIS YEAR, THE ONLY PLAN DESIGN CHANGES TO THE PLAN ARE THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS.

WE'RE HAVING TO INCREASE THE DEDUCTIBLE FROM $2,800 TO $3,000, NOT BY CHOICE.

THAT'S AN IRS REGULATION.

SO WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE PLAN DESIGN CHANGES ON THE COPAY PLANS AND THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS WOULD STAY THE SAME.

SO MOVING ON TO DENTAL.

THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS REPRESENT CURRENT COVERAGE AS IT IS.

AND THE SECOND TWO COLUMNS REPRESENT THE RENEWAL THAT AETNA CAME BACK WITH.

SO THEY ARE PROPOSING A 5% INCREASE IN COST FOR THE DENTAL PLAN.

AND THAT INCLUDES WE ARE ADDING ORTHODONTIA.

RIGHT NOW THE DHMO PLAN HAS ORTHODONTIA FOR ADULTS, BUT THE PPO PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ON, DOES NOT OFFER ORTHODONTIA ABOVE 19 YEARS OF AGE.

SO WE ADDED THAT INTO THE PLAN THIS YEAR.

SO THE 11 THE INCREASE WOULD BE ABOUT THE $11,197.80 FOR THIS PLAN.

AND THEN.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

THANK YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT THE COVERAGES, THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE COVERAGE.

ALL THE COVERAGES WOULD STAY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR ADDING THE ORTHODONTIA TO THE PPO PLAN.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE RENEW WITH AETNA THA.

AND THE INCREASE WILL BE OFFSET BY THE $176,948 PREMIUM CREDIT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US.

AGAIN, WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE HSA DEDUCTIBLE CHANGES THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY PLAN DESIGN CHANGES.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING DUE TO LOW UTILIZATION.

YOU REMEMBER WE PUT THE TEXAS HEALTH CLINICS IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THE UTILIZATION HAS REALLY DROPPED OFF.

I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING PROBABLY 5 OR 6 EMPLOYEES GO A MONTH, WHICH IS REALLY LOW.

AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CANCEL OUR CONTRACT WITH THAT CLINIC.

IT'S ABOUT $48,500 PER YEAR THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT AND FIVE AND $6 A MONTH.

I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH THE 48 FIVE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING NOT RENEWING OUR CONTRACT FOR THAT.

AND I'LL JUST GO INTO REAL QUICK.

THE REASON WE PUT THE TEXAS HEALTH CLINIC IN IS BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE PUT THAT IN, WE ONLY OFFERED TWO HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS.

WE DIDN'T OFFER ANY TYPE OF HSA MONEY TO HELP THE EMPLOYEE MEET THAT DEDUCTIBLE.

SO IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR YOUR LOWER PAID AND EVEN SOME OF YOUR HIGHER PAID EMPLOYEES TO GET THE CARE THAT THEY NEEDED WHEN THEY NEEDED IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE IMPLEMENTED THE CLINIC AND IT WAS USED REALLY WELL FOR A WHILE.

BUT NOW WE'VE PUT OTHER THINGS IN PLACE, LIKE WE'VE ADDED TWO CO-PAY PLANS.

SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

WE OFFER $1,000 FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY $1,500 FOR FAMILIES IN HSA CONTRIBUTION TO HELP THEM REACH THAT DEDUCTIBLE.

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SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY RENEW WITH AETNA DENTAL FOR THE NEXT FOR THE 2023, 2024 PLAN YEAR.

AND WE'RE ALSO WANTING TO PUT IN A SHORT TERM DISABILITY PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES.

IT WOULD BE EMPLOYER PAID, IT WOULD RECOVER OR IT WOULD COVER 60% OF THE EMPLOYEES SALARY WHEN THEY WERE OUT.

THERE WOULD BE A 14 DAY WAITING PERIOD AND THEY CAN BE ON IT UP TO 12 WEEKS, OF COURSE, AS LONG AS IT'S MEDICALLY NECESSARY.

AND IT WOULD COVER PREGNANCY AS WELL.

IS THAT COMMON PRACTICE FOR THE CITY TO COVER THAT.

MOST CITIES THAT OFFER IT DO COVER IT.

THE COST FOR THAT IS $56,000.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ALSO LOOKED AT CANCELING OUR CONTRACT WITH THE CLINIC BECAUSE THAT MONEY WASN'T BEING WELL SPENT ANYMORE.

AND THAT HELPS WITH THIS COST.

SO. SO THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MEDICAL THE DENTAL, CANCELING THE TEXAS HEALTH CLINIC AND PUTTING IN THE SHORT TERM DISABILITY PLAN.

THEN THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU OUR OTHER LINES OF COVERAGE, OUR VSP VISION COVERAGE.

WE'RE UNDER A CONTRACT OUR RATE GUARANTEE TILL 10-1-2024 OUR LIFE AD&D AND DISABILITY WOULD BE UP FOR RENEWAL NEXT YEAR.

BUT IF WE PUT THE SHORT TERM DISABILITY PLAN IN THEY'RE GIVING US ANOTHER YEAR OF RATE GUARANTEE SO WE WOULDN'T RENEW OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID ON THAT TILL 10-1-2025 THEN OUR EAP RENEWED AT THE SAME RATE AND THEN COBRA AND FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNTS ARE ADMINISTERED THROUGH FLORES AND WE'RE IN A RATE GUARANTEE UNTIL 2027 ON THAT ONE.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

SO I'M CURIOUS, DO WE STILL SURVEY OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR BENEFIT PACKAGES ARE? WE DO. HOW DO WE COMPARE? WE COMPARE REALLY WELL.

DO WE? WE'RE COMPETITIVE? OUR EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, OUR PREMIUMS ARE TEND TO BE LOWER.

WE OFFER FOUR PLANS, SO WE GIVE EMPLOYEES AN OPTION OF COPAY OR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE.

SO AND OUR HSA CONTRIBUTION IS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE.

I DON'T SEE ANY LETTERS ATTACHED TO YOUR NAME, BUT AS AN HR SPECIALIST, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WITH RESPECT TO OUR ABILITY TO RETAIN PEOPLE OR TO LURE OTHER PEOPLE TO COME TO THE CITY? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DO BETTER RECRUITING PEOPLE WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD BENEFITS.

AND I KNOW WE WORKED IN 2021 TO MAKE THE BENEFITS BETTER, AND WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT WHILE KEEPING PREMIUMS LOW.

SO ALL OF THESE CHANGES WE CAN PUT INTO EFFECT, IT'D BE ABOUT $11,000 DECREASE IN TOTAL PREMIUM AND NO INCREASE TO THE EMPLOYEES. YEAH. SO YOU SAID THERE WERE FOUR BIDS THAT YOU RECEIVED WHEN YOU PUT OUT, I WANT TO SAY LAST YEAR.

YEAH, WE GOT CIGNA, AETNA, UNITED HEALTH CARE.

AND THE OTHERS WERE REJECTED OVER PRICE.

I'M ASSUMING. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO. YES.

THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DO WE GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES A TOTAL PACKAGE THAT THEY SEE WHAT THEY'RE MAKING WITH THE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF COMPANIES DON'T DO THAT.

SO EMPLOYEE MIGHT JUMP SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT REALIZING THE OFFERS THAT WE'RE DOING AND AND PROVIDING THAT INSURANCE AND THE PACKAGES THEY HAVE.

SO WE DO THAT TOO.

WELL YOU'RE SAYING DO WE PROVIDE THEM A STATEMENT OF THEIR BASICALLY SALARY PLUS ALL THEIR BENEFITS? BENEFITS AND ALL EVERYTHING WE DO THAT? WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

BUT THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT YOU ALL LET US PUT IN WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO WE WILL BE DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, I KNOW THAT MY EMPLOYEES TOO, THEY'LL LOOK AT, OH, I CAN MAKE MORE AN HOUR, BUT WHEN THEY LOOK AT WHAT I STILL PAY ALL THEIR INSURANCE, THEY LOOK AT THAT AND THEY SAY, WOW, FOR US TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE.

SO YEAH.

TOTAL PACKAGE IS ALWAYS GREAT TO SHOW THEM ALONG THE WAY.

YOU PAID 100% INSURANCE.

I PAY 100. IS THAT FOR FAMILIES TOO? NO, NOT FOR FAMILY.

[LAUGHTER] UNLESS YOU'RE A FARCO. OH.

I HAVE A SISTER. YOU HAVE MORE THAN JUST A SISTER, SIR.

NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK EMPLOYEES REALIZE HOW MUCH.

NO IT'S A VERY PRIVATE COMPANY THING.

AND IT REALLY HELPS THE EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THE TRUE BENEFIT THAT THEY'RE GETTING.

WELL, IT HELPS THEM SEE HOW MUCH THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THEIR BENEFITS.

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YOU MATCH THE CONTRIBUTIONS? UP TO 5%. WHAT ABOUT RETIREMENT PLANS? WELL, WE CAN WORK ON IT. REALLY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. SO, COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I MAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM'S MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE GOT TO DO ONE ITEM AT A TIME, DO WE NOT? OKAY. OKAY.

ITEM 12 MOTION APPROVED.

MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.

A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.

YOU CAN GET THE NEXT ONE. LET'S VOTE ON ITEM 12.

AMY. I'M SORRY.

MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12.

YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU VOTE? THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

WHOA. I'LL VOTE FOR IT NOW.

OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. SO, ITEM 13 COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 13? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO.

LET'S VOTE ON 13.

OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU STAFF WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU TO THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND WE DON'T WANT OTHER CITIES STEALING THEM FROM US.

SO ITEM 14, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE A THREE YEAR OPENGOV FINANCIALS UTILITY BILLING SUITE SERVICE AGREEMENT

[14. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager or his designee to execute a three-year OpenGov Financials Utility Billing Suite Service Agreement, through Vertosoft, LLC, using the Texas Department of Information Resources (DIR) purchasing cooperative.]

AND ONCE AGAIN, BRADY OLSEN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A DEDICATED UTILITY BILLING TEAM THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE TOOLS NEEDED TO GIVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR CITY BE ABLE TO DELIVER.

WITH THIS SOFTWARE I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE EXCELLENT SERVICE, BUT EVEN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE UPON THAT.

IT GIVES US SOME OPPORTUNITIES LIKE LIVE DATA.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT RIGHT NOW ON OUR UTILITY BILLS.

WE HAVE ACCESS. WE'LL HAVE ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR CITIZENS WHENEVER THEY'RE BEHIND TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THAT BILL IN.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SENDING MAILERS, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ALSO A CALLING FEATURE.

SO JUST TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN STAY ON TOP OF THINGS.

THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS BEEN USING OPENGOV FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SO.

WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE PERFORMANCE SO FAR.

WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THE MARKET.

WE SPENT ALMOST A FULL DAY SITTING WITH OPENGOV GOING OVER WHAT OUR CITIZENS NEED AND WHAT OUR CITY PROCESSES ARE AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THEM.

WE BELIEVE OPENGOV IS THE RIGHT PARTNER FOR THAT.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A THREE YEAR CONTRACT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE, BUT OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE IS GOING AWAY.

THEY'VE ANNOUNCED A SUNSET DATE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT LEFT IN A LURCH.

ANDREW STOUT WITH OPENGOV IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT IT.

BUT IF NOT, HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT. BUT COUNCIL, WHAT IS Y'ALL'S INTEREST? SO WE'RE AWARE OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE THREE YEAR AGREEMENT.

OKAY SO WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNTED FOR.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO MY QUESTION REALLY WAS, WHAT IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT? WHAT IS THE TRANSITION PERIOD GOING TO FROM THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES TO OPENGOV? SO WE DO STILL HAVE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES AS OUR OVERALL ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT AS A FALLBACK AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO RUN THEM AT THE SAME TIME FOR A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE NOTHING'S FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS.

BUT IT IS SIX MONTHS, HOPEFULLY A LITTLE SOONER.

BUT WE DO HAVE STAFF HAS BEEN GEARING UP.

THEY'RE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS.

SO WE ARE SETTING ASIDE THE TIME TO DO THIS RIGHT, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING GETS AS IMPLEMENTED AS WELL AS WE CAN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CITIZEN CAMPAIGN MARKETING CAMPAIGN LINED UP BECAUSE WE ALSO DO HAVE OUR NEW BANK AND A NEW PLACE TO SEND OUR CHECKS.

SO WE'RE WANTING TO DO THAT ALL AT ONCE SO PEOPLE CAN GET ONE BIT OF INFORMATION AS OPPOSED TO CONTINUALLY CHANGING THINGS LITTLE BY LITTLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER? COME ON. OKAY. YEAH.

WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS SYSTEM AND THE OLD SYSTEM? THAT'S 10 TO 15 DEPENDING ON THE YEAR.

10 TO 15,000? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND THE POINT IS, WE GET WAY MORE CAPACITY WITH THIS.

AND IT'S MORE. IT'S IMPROVED AND IT'S SUPPORTED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE CURRENT ONE FOREVER.

IT'S JUST GOING AWAY.

YEAH. AND THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THIS.

YES, THEY WILL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.

WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.

LET'S VOTE. OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SIX ZERO. THANK YOU AGAIN, BRADY.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL THANK YOU, STAFF.

[03:30:02]

[15. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager or his designee to negotiate and execute an architectural and design services agreement with Oxley, Williams, and Tharp Architects, in an estimated amount of $108,000, to provide drawings and other services needed to convert the old YMCA building located at 3524 Central Drive into a Senior Citizen’s Center. ]

WELCOME TO THE DAIS PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR MARK LONG.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

I WANT TO FIRST THANK GARY JOHNSON FOR BEING ON A CRUISE TONIGHT AND ALLOWING ME TO TAKE THIS ITEM FOR HIM.

[LAUGHTER] NICE. SO HOW CONVENIENT.

I HAD IT ALL MEMORIZED BEFORE AND NOW I HAVE TO I'M GOING TO READ JUST TO STAY ON TASK AND ON TOPIC.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE ITEM WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH W.T. IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $108,000 TO PROVIDE DRAWINGS AND OTHER SERVICES NEEDED TO CONVERT THE OLD YMCA BUILDING INTO A SENIOR CENTER, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE PURCHASED THE BUILDING.

WE DID SOME AS BUILTS WITH W.T.

SINCE WHEN WE TOOK THE BUILDING OVER.

THE YMCA DID NOT HAVE ANY REAL DOCUMENTATION ON THAT BUILDING.

SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH O.W.T.

ON THE AS BUILT, AND THIS BECOMES THE FUN PART.

THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

[INAUDIBLE] COMMENT AT THE END OF MY STATEMENT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA HERE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THEM INVOLVED WITH THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WE DID PURCHASE THE BUILDING ON MAY 9TH WITH THE INTENT TO MAKE IT A SENIOR CENTER.

AFTER AN EXTENSIVE INSPECTION PROCESS, IT WAS DETERMINED THE BUILDING WILL REQUIRE SOME REPAIRS, MAYBE SOME SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS AND ULTIMATELY REMODELING TO PROPERLY SERVE THE NEEDS OF OUR SENIORS.

IT WAS FURTHER DETERMINED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETED.

SORRY. IT WAS FURTHER DETERMINED THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES WILL BE NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE NECESSARY REPAIRS BEFORE THE CITY CAN SOLICIT BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS, ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN DOCUMENTS ARE NEEDED TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR THE REPAIR AND REMODEL OF THE BUILDING.

BASICALLY, THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS WILL INFORM THE CONSTRUCTION BIDDING PROCESS AND ENSURE ALL HEALTH, SAFETY AND BUILDING CODES WILL BE MET DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.

WE DID INCLUDE KIND OF THEIR PROJECT SCOPE IN THE AGENDA ITEM.

THE MAIN THINGS I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THEY WILL COVER IN THIS ARE ALL ARCHITECTURE, ALL CIVIL ENGINEERING, ALL STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND THEN MEP OR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING FOR THAT.

AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN THIS SCOPE.

AND AGAIN, THE SCOPE CAN KIND OF BASED OFF OF WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO WITH THE BUILDING.

AND WHEN I SAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS IF WE'RE MOVING WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT COULD BE LOWER.

IT WON'T GO HIGHER, BUT IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $108,000.

SO. OBVIOUSLY, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS THE SELECTION OF ARCHITECTURAL, ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN SERVICES BASED ON QUALIFICATION AND OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO THE WORK BEING PERFORMED.

WE'VE WORKED WITH O.W.T.

ON SEVERAL PROJECTS HERE, MOST NOTABLY THE BEDFORD CENTER YMCA.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE AS BILLS THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER AND I HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED NOT NECESSARILY WITH JIM THARP, BUT WITH OTHER O.W.T.

STAFF IN OTHER CITIES.

SO WE DO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY POSSESS THE QUALIFICATIONS TO PROVIDE THE REQUESTED SERVICES.

I'M TALKING FAST. I FEEL LIKE I'M LIKE EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT ME LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? SO FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS WILL BE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS SERIES 2023 I THINK WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT, SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT.

BUT TO ADDRESS MR. CARUSO'S COMMENTS AND THIS IS WHERE I'LL SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THIS WILL NOT BE A MARK LONG FACILITY.

THIS WILL NOT BE A SENIOR CENTER STAFF FACILITY.

THIS WILL BE THE SENIORS OF BEDFORD'S FACILITIES, AND WE WILL ENGAGE THEM.

AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. CARUSO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY WATCH, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT THE SCOPE IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.

I THINK THE BUILDING NEEDS SOME WORK.

AND I THINK WE DO NEED THE ASSISTANCE OF A PROFESSIONAL GROUP TO SEE US THROUGH THIS.

SO I'M HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN WE CAN GET THIS APPROVED TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO START THE PROCESS QUICKLY.

AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE SENIORS, I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT GOING TO BE A TOWN HALL MEETING? IS IT GOING TO BE I KNOW MISS FARRELL WAS HERE TONIGHT AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HER AND SHE'S SOMEONE I TRUST.

[03:35:04]

SO THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

AND I WANT TO BE REALLY HONEST WITH THIS GROUP AND WITH OUR SENIORS THAT PUTTING THIS IN FRONT OF THEM DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET EVERYTHING RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

IT WILL PROVIDE US A SERVICE THAT WILL MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS BUILDING.

I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALREADY WITH THE AS BUILTS, WE'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THINGS, SO WE WILL ENGAGE THEM IN THE PROCESS AND WE WILL LISTEN TO THEM.

NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

SO AGAIN, SORRY ABOUT BEING QUICK.

I FELT LIKE WE WANTED TO GO, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE KIND OF WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.

YEAH. AND I CLEARLY YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING A SENSITIVE ISSUE HERE IS ABOUT IT'S ABOUT INCLUSION.

IT'S ABOUT HEARING OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND IDEAS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE INCORPORATING THAT INTO THIS.

SOMETIMES THAT IS OUTSIDE THE BOX.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT THINGS IN A MORE STRUCTURED FASHION, BUT THIS IS ABOUT KIND OF DOING THE RIGHT THING.

SO THEN THE OTHER THING IS I WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH THAT, THAT FACILITY AND MAXIMIZING THE BENEFIT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

HAVE FAITH IN YOU. JIM THARP HAS A LONG HISTORY OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

HE HAS ON CERTAIN OCCASIONS FREELY GIVEN HIS SERVICES FOR THE CITY.

HE'S AN EXCELLENT RESIDENT, AND HE REALLY DID US WELL ON ON THE CENTER.

SO I'M EXCITED THAT HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF THIS.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, PLANS? YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED ABOUT I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF FUN STUFF GOING ON.

AND I THINK IT'S IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT ALL HAPPEN.

I HOPE SO. THANK YOU.

SO IS THAT A MOTION. MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.

LET'S VOTE.

THERE YOU GO. OKAY, THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

SIX ZERO. SO THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. STAFF. THANK YOU, MARK.

ITEM 16, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO APPROVE THE REJECTION OF SUBMISSIONS RELATIVE TO

[16. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager or his designee to approve the rejection of submissions relative to project 2023-29 for Operations of Generations Park Ball Park Complex.]

ARE YOU TAKING THIS MARK? ARE YOU TAKING THE BALL PARKS.

I AM. ALL RIGHT. COME ON. I'M SORRY.

WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SO WHAT THIS ACTION IS REQUESTING IS THAT WE REJECT THE SUBMISSIONS RELATIVE TO PROJECT 2023- 29 FOR THE OPERATION OF GENERATION PARK BALL FIELD MANAGEMENT. AND THE REASON FOR THE REJECTION IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A PURCHASING BACKGROUND.

WHEN WE TAKE A BID OUT AND WE PUT A BID OUT FOR PROPOSALS, WE ESTABLISH PARAMETERS, WE ESTABLISH WHAT WE WANT VENDORS TO SUBMIT.

DURING NEGOTIATIONS WITH A SELECTED VENDOR IF WE DISCOVER THAT WE ARE EITHER COMING UP AGAINST THOSE BOUNDARIES OR EXCEEDING THEM WITH WHAT THE FINAL SERVICES WILL LOOK LIKE, BEST PRACTICE IS TO STOP THE PROCESS AND NEGOTIATIONS, REJECT THE BIDS AND PUT IT BACK OUT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT VENDORS WHO WEREN'T SELECTED IN THIS PROCESS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT UNDER THE NEW STIPULATIONS OR THE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WANT.

SO WE'RE TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REJECT THIS PARTICULAR SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS TO RETOOL THE SCOPE OF WORK, PUT IT BACK OUT ON THE STREET AND GET SUBMISSIONS BASED ON DISCUSSIONS OF ADDITIONAL NEEDS THAT WE MAY WANT FOR THIS SERVICE.

AND SO THIS IS THE MOST FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY TO DO THIS.

AND ULTIMATELY THIS IS WHAT THAT REQUEST IS FOR.

OKAY, VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER DAWKINS? YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, BLAKE, WHEN WILL SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS OF REJECTING ALL THE BIDS.

WHEN WILL WE START? BECAUSE WE LOST A WHOLE SEASON OF GENERATING REVENUE.

SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN RESTARTING THIS PROCESS? SO THE REVISED TIMELINE, I'LL WORK WITH MARK ON GETTING THAT, BUT IT WILL BE A LOT SHORTER PROCESS THAN WHAT WE DID ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE BASIS FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK. TYPICALLY AN RFP OF THIS SCOPE WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR WEEKS FROM ADVERTISEMENT TO COLLECTION OF THE SERVICES.

THE MINIMUM WE CAN DO IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

[03:40:03]

IT'S JUST ADDING ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND DISCUSSING A FEW THINGS IN MORE DETAIL.

BUT ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN DEFINITELY LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER MARK, CAN I JUST RESPOND TO MISS DAWKINS? SO DON'T I DON'T WANT WITH THE DELAY, THERE SHOULD NOT BE WE SHOULD NOT THINK THAT THERE WILL BE NO BASEBALL ON THOSE FIELDS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WHEN THE ITEM WAS WAS TABLED IS I STARTED WORKING WITH GROUPS.

THE YMCA RAN THEIR LEAGUE OUT THERE.

I WORKED WITH THE SPECIAL NEEDS.

I THINK IT'S THE PANTHER, COLLEYVILLE PANTHER GROUP OUT THERE.

WE ALSO HAD COLLEYVILLE BASEBALL.

SO WE DID HAVE WE HAD THREE TOURNAMENTS AND WE GENERATED JUST UNDER $3,000 IN A FOUR WEEK PERIOD OF TIME.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT WAY IN THE INTERIM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GENERATING REVENUE.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MARK. THANKS FOR ADDITIONAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI. HEY, MARK, CAN WE NOT OPERATE THESE THREE FIELDS IN HOUSE? IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE LIKE A FACILITY OF LIKE 50 FIELDS.

SO PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF GENERATIONS PARK WE USED TO MANAGE IT OURSELVES, CORRECT? BECAUSE THERE'S THREE AND YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE VERY QUALIFIED.

WHAT CAMERA AM I? WHAT DO I LOOK? WHERE DO I LOOK? IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO GO THAT WAY, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD ENTERTAIN IT.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT QUESTION.

I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.

I PERSONALLY, AS THE DIRECTOR, AM A LITTLE TIED UP ON SOME OTHER THINGS AND WOULD NOT PROBABLY BE ABLE TO DEVOTE ENOUGH TIME THERE.

BUT I DO THINK AT A MINIMUM.

IF YOU WANT TO. AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO OPERATE IT? DO YOU WANT TO OPERATE IT AS A SERVICE? OKAY. A LOT OF CITIES DO THAT.

THEY WORK WITH A SINGLE SPORTS ASSOCIATION.

THEY DRAW A PARTICIPATION FEE, WHICH IS BY ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE ONE. OR YOU CAN KIND OF GO TO THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING OR WILL GO.

AND THAT'S A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT.

YOU CAN DO A HYBRID IF YOU WANT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE RUN IT WITH OUR STAFF.

AND I MEAN, CAN WE GET LIKE SOME NUMBERS? SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE END GOAL THERE? I MEAN, THE MONEY IS THE END GOAL.

YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, HOW CAN WE RUN IT EFFICIENTLY? HOW CAN WE YOU KNOW, WE THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT WE OUTSOURCE MORE AND MORE THINGS.

AND IF THERE ARE JUST THREE FIELDS, ISN'T THAT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO OUTSOURCE ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THAT.

YEAH. OH, GOD, WE'LL RUN IT.

NO, IT'S TOO EARLY FOR ME IN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'M SORRY. SO YOU MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO 9:45.

SO, SO ROUGH NUMBERS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT COME UP IS I WOULD.

I WOULD REQUEST IF WE'RE RUNNING IT.

TOURNAMENTS, DEVELOPMENTAL PROGRAMS, PRACTICES, EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO SAY, I WOULD WANT TWO FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS, A SUPERVISOR AND A COORDINATOR. SALARY AND BENEFITS WOULD PROBABLY PUT US RIGHT AT $150,000.

AND THEN THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL CONCESSION STAND THERE THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE PART TIME STAFF MINIMUM, PROBABLY 8 TO 12 STAFF.

MY GUESS IS ADDRESS THE FEE STRUCTURE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THERE WITH THE CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAP THE REVENUE DIFFERENTLY.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT.

CAN IT BE DONE? YEAH, THERE ARE CITIES ABSOLUTELY THAT DO IT.

THERE'S ONE TO OUR EAST THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY RUN IT ANYMORE BUT AND THERE ARE LIMITATIONS WITH THE CURRENT FIELDS WE HAVE WHICH IS I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT OUR OPTIONS BASICALLY BEFORE WE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S ALL.

YEAH. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY DIRECTION, RIGHT? NOT RIGHT NOW. TONIGHT'S CLEAR AGREEMENT TO REJECT.

YEAH YEAH. AND I DEFINITELY MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THAT BUT.

SO IF WE GO OUT WITH ANOTHER RFP, WILL YOU COME BACK TO COUNCIL? YES. SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PREPARED FOR A MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

YES. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO? NO. OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SURE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO.

MOTION FIRST. MOTION TO DENY.

OKAY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY ON THE TABLE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WELL, NO, NO.

AS WRITTEN IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

TO APPROVE THE DENIAL.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH, WE'RE APPROVING THE DENIAL.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO. WANT ME TO READ IT? GO AHEAD. I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO APPROVE THE REJECTION OF SUBMISSIONS RELATIVE TO PROJECT 2023-29 FOR OPERATIONS OF GENERATION BALL PARK COMPLEX.

[03:45:08]

COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO SECOND.

LET'S MOVE. OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

6:07. THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK COUNCIL. THANK YOU. STAFF THANK YOU, BLAKE.

THANK YOU, MARK. ITEM 17, WE'VE GOT A DISCUSSION ON CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 415 A AND C ABOUT PUDS, THEIR CREATIVITY AND LOT COVERAGES.

[17. Discussion on City Code of Ordinances Section 4.15.A and C about PUDs, their creativity and lot coverages. **This item requested by Councilmember Farco]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS CONVERSATION STARTED WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE VERY LIMITED IN SPACE IN THIS AREA AND WE HAVE SELECTIVE AREAS THAT WE'VE GOT EITHER DEVELOPERS OR FUTURE DEVELOPERS COMING IN TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF BEDFORD.

AND IN MOST CITIES, THE PUD AND OURS IS TO CREATE CREATIVITY AND LOT COVERAGE IS AT 40%.

IT KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY, IT KIND OF HANDCUFFS THEM FROM DOING THAT.

IF YOU GO FROM A TWO STORY AND YOU WANT TO PUT A ONE STORY IN, USUALLY YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE SLAB SIZE.

SO THAT INCREASES IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WE'VE GOT THE TREE ORDINANCE, SAVING TREE LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT JUST TO ME, IT STIFLES CREATIVITY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS COMING IN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITED SPACE THAT WE HAVE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT STAFF REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE COULD SET MINIMUMS, BUT WE APPROVE EVERYTHING, SO EVERYTHING HAS TO STILL COME IN THROUGH APPROVAL.

BUT AT 40% IT KIND OF IT, WHAT ARE WE LOSING? WHO'S NOT COMING TO US TO WORK WITH US? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE PARAMETERS IN PLACE.

I THINK MOST CITIES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S USUALLY 60 TO 40 THE OTHER WAY.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE INCONSISTENCIES WHERE WE HAVE PUDS WHERE IT'S 80%.

AND SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT THERE WERE JUST SOME QUESTIONS AND INCONSISTENCIES IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE WE HAVE WITH BEDFORD COMMONS COMING UP WITH THE POSSIBILITY MAYBE OF MEADOW PARK AND THINGS OF THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS NOW AND CHANGE THAT SO WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESSES FOR FUTURE PROJECTS HERE.

SO I'M CURIOUS, JIMMY, SO RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU'RE ELABORATING ON IS RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE A LOT THEY CAN ONLY BUILD ON 40% OF THAT LOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S VALID, YES, SIR.

SO IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING THAT REQUIREMENT TO A DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS HERE? IT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

WELL, THE LEGAL PROCESS WOULD BE TO INITIATE A CODE REQUEST, TAKE IT TO P AND Z, JUST AS IF SOMEONE EXTERNALLY WAS DOING A ZONING REQUEST, AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER PNC AND TELL ME IF I'M WES, IF I'M MISSPEAKING.

BUT IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY ELEMENTARY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S NOT A MAJOR DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE ON PRIVATELY REQUESTED ZONING CASES.

SO, COUNCILMAN FARCO, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN US HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT A PERMANENT CHANGE OR YOU'RE JUST INTERESTED IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AMENABILITY OF PEOPLE TO CONSIDER? WELL, I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN, ON PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS IS PRETTY RESTRICTIVE UP FRONT.

WES MORRISON THE WES MORRISON SHOW.

THANK YOU.

TO SAY IT'S RESTRICTIVE.

I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S RESTRICTIVE.

TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH, IN THE BEGINNING IT DOES RESTRICT THE CREATIVITY OF THE PUD, WHICH IS SOMETIMES WHAT THE PURPOSE OF PUDS ARE.

HOWEVER, I WILL ALSO SAY IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF THRESHOLDS IN PUD ORDINANCES.

SO IT'S TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES AND NO, I GUESS IF THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN DO THAT.

SO THE NORMAL PROCESS, IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND WANTS A DIFFERENT STANDARD, WANTS TO DEVELOP ON 60% OF THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD STILL COME THROUGH P&Z AND COME THROUGH THAT NORMAL PROCESS AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE OR SOMETHING.

I'M GOING TO LET I'M GOING TO PASS THIS ONE OFF TO BRYN REAL QUICK.

SORRY. IT'S NOT TURNING ON SO SMARTER THAN THE BUTTON.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO BECAUSE THIS IS A HARD RULE HERE, YOU ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO IMPROVE A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO EVEN ASK FOR A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO DO THAT IS MY CURIOSITY? SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT JIMMY WAS MENTIONING, A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE AND COUNCIL.

RECOMMENDATION FROM P&Z AND FINAL APPROVAL BY COUNCIL AND THEN THAT WOULD EFFECTUATE A PERMANENT CHANGE HERE.

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TO AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE.

OR YOU COULD INCREASE 40% TO SOME OTHER THRESHOLD.

OR YOU COULD ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT ALTOGETHER, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE BASE DISTRICTS, WHICH YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PULL IN TO START WITH FOR A PUD WILL HAVE THEIR OWN LOT COVERAGE THRESHOLDS THAT ARE MORE GENEROUS ANYWAY.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE YOU CAN JUST DEFAULT TO THOSE BY ELIMINATING THIS SENTENCE ALTOGETHER.

WAIT. REPEAT THAT LAST PART.

SO ORDINARILY, THE WAY PUD ORDINANCES WORK, YOU'RE CREATING YOUR OWN ZONING DISTRICT.

BUT TO FACILITATE CREATING IT, YOU SELECT A BASE DISTRICT TO START WITH, AND THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR CHANGES AND TWEAKS TO THAT BASE DISTRICT.

BUT YOU CAN'T WITH RESPECT TO LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE THIS REQUIREMENT IS IN THE PUD CHAPTER ITSELF.

OKAY. SO WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS CONVERSATION? WELL, I WAS JUST WANTING TO SEE IF COUNCIL WAS WAS IN FAVOR OF STAFF LOOKING AT IT FOR CHANGES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

HAS THIS HINDERED US IN THE PAST, WES? I MEAN, DOES IT SLOW THE PROCESS UP? I WOULDN'T SAY IT SLOWS THE PROCESS UP.

IN SOME CASES IT STOPS THE PROCESS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN'T WORK WITH THE 40% RULE.

THE I CAN'T REALLY SAY IT'S IN THE PAST ASPECT.

I WILL SAY THIS APPLICATION OR THIS SECTION HAS BEEN APPLIED DIFFERENTLY ON MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.

SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT IT HASN'T BEEN CONSISTENTLY APPLIED THROUGHOUT PAST DEVELOPMENTS I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO SHARING THIS UP OR LOOKING AT THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT JUST FOR THE CLARIFICATION OF THE ORDINANCE, I THINK THERE IS SOME BASED ON THE LIKE BRYN SAID, THERE'S SOME THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THE STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT COVERS LOT COVERAGE.

AND THEN THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY IN THOSE SAME SECTIONS.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT IT.

IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT INCREASING THE 40% THRESHOLD WOULD ELICIT MORE INTEREST IN DEVELOPING REMAINING PROPERTY.

I CAN POINT TO ONE CASE WHERE IT WOULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD.

BUT IF WE COME INTO LIKE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THEY HAVE TO PUT A RETENTION POND IN AND FUTURE THIS KIND OF AND CHALLENGES THAT OR IF WE HAVE TO IF WE WANT TO SAVE TREE LINES THAT IT MIGHT INCREASE SOME LOTS BUT DECREASE THE SIZE OF OTHERS AND IT REALLY REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF EVERY DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN TO TO MAKE THE MOST BANG FOR THEIR BUCK I MEAN PERIOD.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE HAVE A STANDARD, WE GET STANDARDS, WE GET 40%, 40%, 40%, WE GET COOKIE CUTTER, WE DON'T GET THE CUSTOM BUILD OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF PROPERTY VALUES AND HOMES IN THE AREA.

I JUST THINK THAT IT KIND OF INHIBITS THE CREATIVITY RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

IF WE LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

WE HAVE AREAS WHERE THERE WERE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE DON'T HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES NOW.

WE HAVE TO INCREASE THINGS.

WE HAVE AREAS WHERE DRAINAGE IS FINE, BUT ON SOME PLACES AND THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THERE ARE SOME SETBACKS ALREADY.

AND WE COULD WITH WITH A CHANGE MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTABLE.

LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FINAL APPROVAL AT THE END FOR PEOPLE TO DEVELOP ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND NOT HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

I THINK IF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING STAFF TO DO IS TO RESEARCH AND SEE HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN SOME CREATIVITY AND FLEXIBILITY IN THE ORDINANCE AND YET STILL TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES YOU MENTIONED, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

SO YEAH, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN FARCO.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS CLEARLY HAVE, THE LOTS CAN ONLY COVER 40%.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE BEDFORD PARK, FOR INSTANCE, THAT THEY COVER LIKE ALL OF THE LOT.

SO YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO THAT AND SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FURTHER DEVELOP SOME OF THE LAND WE HAVE IN BEDFORD.

MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.

WHEN I LOOK OVER YOUR THE SCHEDULE OF MD AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR

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AND THERE'S ALSO SOME OF THOSE MDS ARE RIDICULOUSLY WRITTEN I MEAN, THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.

THEY DON'T FOLLOW.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY WROTE THEM TO MATCH THE DEVELOPER AT THE TIME.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID.

NUMBER ONE, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE KEEP THESE, WE KEEP THE 40% FOR CERTAIN AREAS IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT CERTAIN HOMES TO BE BUILT NEXT TO OTHER HOMES THAT ARE COMPLETE THAT ARE LIKE YOURS.

YOU WANT THE AREA TO BE VERY CONSISTENT.

IS THAT THE REASON IT GOT STARTED? I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHY THAT'S THERE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL POINT IN THE MDS VERSUS THE RS, THAT'S THE AMBIGUITY PART.

THAT'S JUST REALLY THERE'S A LOT OF IT'S NOT CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND KEEP IN MIND THAT AS OUR COUNCILMAN FARCO SAID, WE'VE GOT SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE ALSO DON'T NEED TO IGNORE EITHER.

IF ONE OF THE ANSWERS WAS TO FIX THIS IS I NOTICED LIKE SOME OF THE MDS REQUIRED DRAWINGS, SOME OF THEM DON'T.

SOME OF THEM SAY SITE PLAN, SOME OF THEM SAY CONCEPT PLANS.

IF THAT WOULD GET CLEARED UP OR WE REQUIRED CONCEPT PLAN OR WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A SITE AND A CONCEPT PLAN, WE HAD THAT THEN.

THEN ANYBODY LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE RELIEVED TO SEE THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, WELL, LOOK GUYS, I WANT TO BUILD A LITTLE HOUSE HERE.

I WANT TO BUILD A BIG HOUSE HERE.

I WANT LOTS OF PROPERTY TAKEN UP OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT PICKING IT OUT.

BUT I THINK THAT THE CLARITY IS JUST NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.

COMPLETELY AGREE AND UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S FROM ONE MD, I THINK IT'S MD THREE TO MD FOUR.

ONE CALLS IT A SITE PLAN, ONE CALLS IT A CONCEPT PLAN.

AND MD2 DOESN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING.

RIGHT. AND ALL OF THE MDS ARE AT LEAST THREE OUT OF THE FOUR ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

SO THERE'S THAT COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE AND DECIDE WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT FIT OR NOT FOR THAT AREA.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE PUD SECTION, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD ON LOT COVERAGE.

OKAY. AND WHAT I HAVE READ THAT IT'S 50% IS THE STANDARD AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR PROPERTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I FEAR IS I DON'T REALLY WANT I SEE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS PAYING ATTENTION AT ONE POINT IN THIS CITY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY FOLLOWED THAT 40% IN A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.

SO AND I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY GOING FORWARD, WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR OWN CODE.

SO BECAUSE CREATIVITY IS ONE THING, BUT IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO PASS IT AS A BUILDER, YOU BRING THE DRAWINGS IN AND YOU SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE IN MIND. AND THEN IT WILL MOST LIKELY GET IT, IT'LL BE ARRANGED BY PLANNING AND ZONING, OR IT WILL BE CHANGED IN SOME WAY SO THAT THEY CAN DO IT IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WILL AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.

THOSE REQUIREMENTS NEED TO BE CONSISTENT IN AREAS ALSO.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO WORK WITH THE WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE THOSE ISSUES. AND IF SOMEBODY DOES WANT A TWO STORY LOOKING OVER THEM OR WHATEVER, AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT WHEN YOU GO TO TWO STORY.

BUT WHEN YOU GO A ONE STORY, YOU'VE GOT TO INCREASE THE SLAB AND THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND I JUST REALLY THINK FOR US TO DO IT RIGHT, WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THIS AND CREATE THOSE CONSISTENCIES.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK A STUPID QUESTION.

IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT TO GET DOWN THE ROAD OF MASTER PLAN AND WHAT FOLLOWS? IT'S NOT A STUPID QUESTION BY ANY MEANS.

IT'S, THERE WILL BE.

NO. SO YOUR TIE LOOKS GREAT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

ARE WE PREMATURE IN THIS RIGHT NOW? IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE BAND AID FIXES TO THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK.

I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A BAND AID FIX.

IF WE DO A VERY THOROUGH LOOK AT IT.

WE KNOW THAT.

WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT ALMOST EVERY ZONING CASE THAT COMES THROUGH IS DRAINAGE.

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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH LOOKING AT AS LONG AS STAFF HAS THE TIME TO REALLY DIVE IN AND LOOK AT THIS AND NOT DO A BAND AID, AS YOU STATED, THEN I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND I THINK IT'S OKAY.

SO I THINK ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS DO WE WANT STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? IS THERE ANY SENSE OF URGENCY TO YOUR REQUEST? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. AND I THINK MY ONLY $0.02 IS THAT I WANT TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF QUALITY.

I WANT TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT AS WELL.

I MEAN, THAT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR DESIRE.

OKAY. BUT IF THERE'S PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE PART OF IT, THAT'S HOW WE'LL GET THAT ADDRESSED.

OKAY. ANY FIRM DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT? OKAY. WILL THAT WORK? DO WE NEED TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION ALONG? YES, SIR. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ITEM 18. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS.

[18. Mayor/Council Member Reports]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS COMPLIMENT THE BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL AWARDS.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO RESIDENTS THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE FALL SUITE.

THAT WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH.

SOME DETAILS ON THAT HOUSE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. CITY MANAGER REPORT.

COUNCIL MEMBER FARCO. REAL QUICK, I WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK JOSE MORALES AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER.

WE HAD A SITUATION LAST MONTH WITH THEY OBTAINED 65 CATS FROM A HOUSE AND JOSE HAD THE WHEREABOUTS TO BRING IN ANOTHER ORGANIZATION CALLED AIR.

THEY TOOK CARE OF IT AND THEY SAVED PRETTY MUCH, I THINK, 64 OF THE 65 CATS AND ONE DOG.

AND HE'S NEW TO US.

BUT THEY SAID THAT HE MADE THIS THING HAPPEN QUICK AND IT WENT IN AND OUT.

AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING OVER AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND I'M ALLERGIC TO CATS, BUT I WENT THROUGH AND 65 CATS IS A LOT OF CATS AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER.

DEFINITELY. AND WE GOT THEM THEY BROUGHT IN VET TEAMS THEY TOOK CARE OF THEM, THEY GOT THEM HEALTHY AND THEY GOT THEM ADOPTED.

AND THANKS TO HIS WHEREABOUTS AND HIS KNOWLEDGE OF WHO AROUND THE AREA COULD HELP, THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT DONATED TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER WITH MONEY AND CAT FOOD AND KITTY LITTER AND ALL THAT STUFF.

IT WAS AMAZING A CITY JUMPED TOGETHER AND TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH. HEAR, HEAR. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.

OH, NO. WE. CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

OH.

SO CLOSE. NO, WE COVERED EVERYTHING WE WANTED TO COVER TONIGHT SO.

I HAVE 893 POINTS I'D LIKE TO GO OVER.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH, PLEASE DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.

I WOULD LOVE TO MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.

EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE ADJOURN AT 10:04.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.