Jun 23, 2022 Planning & Zoning Commission

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THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

[CALL TO ORDER]

OKAY. HI THERE.

I'M TODD CARLSON. I'M THE CHAIRMAN.

WELCOME. AND I ASK YOU NOW TO SILENCE ALL YOUR PHONES, PAGERS OR ANY DEVICE THAT IS GOING TO MAKE NOISE DURING OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.

I, OF COURSE, WAS A LITTLE TARDY, WELL, LESS EARLY THAN YOU.

AND SO I DIDN'T ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO THE INVOCATION.

SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

SO IF YOU COULD STAND AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

[INVOCATION] ALL RIGHT, LET US PRAY.

OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR GREAT NATION, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

PLEASE WATCH OVER OUR ARMED FORCES WHO SAFEGUARD OUR FREEDOMS AND PROTECT US.

WE FURTHER ASK THAT YOU GUIDE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO LEAD AND UNITE US.

IN THE EXERCISE OF OUR OFFICIAL DUTIES FOR THE CITY TONIGHT WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP US RESPECTFUL OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS, REMIND US TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, AND GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

OKAY. REMIND ME AGAIN, WHO ARE OUR ALTERNATES HERE? [INAUDIBLE] SO WE'VE GOT SEVEN.

SO YOU DON'T NEED TO PARTICIPATE.

YOU CAN STAY UP THERE AND WATCH OR HOWEVER YOU LIKE.

BUT JUST PLEASE DON'T VOTE [LAUGHTER] AT LEAST TONIGHT.

OK. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR APRIL 28TH AND MAY 26TH MEETINGS.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THERE'S REALLY ONLY TWO PEOPLE THAT CAN VOTE FOR IT.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF ABSTAINED.

YES. AND YEAH, THE ENTIRE COMMISSION CAN VOTE FOR IT.

I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THE MEETING DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T VOTE FOR IT.

OH, MAN, I WAS REALLY GOING FOR A TWO.

OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALL RIGHT. NO WORRIES.

DID ANYBODY SEE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED IN THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF ON FROM THE MEETING OF THE 26TH OF APRIL.

PLEASE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE SOMETIME TONIGHT, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE AMUSEMENT REQUEST. ITEM ONE ON THAT AGENDA.

SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, I DON'T THINK I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN EMAIL OUT AN UPDATE FOR THE COMMISSION'S BENEFIT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THEN I MOVE WE APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE? CAN WE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME? OR DO WE NEED TO DO FOR EACH? SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, I WOULD ASSUME YOU'D HAVE TO APPROVE IT AS TWO SEPARATE.

I SAW ONE SO GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

I MOVE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR APRIL 26, 28, 28.

YES, SIR. MY SCREEN'S NOT WORKING.

28. OKAY.

CAN I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HENDERSON.

ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE, IF WE CAN.

RAISE YOUR HAND AS AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL RIGHT. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

REGARDING THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING FROM MAY 26TH.

CAN I GET A MOTION? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. I MOVE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 26TH, 2022 MEETING.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HANDS SAY AYE, AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

ALL RIGHT. THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 26 ARE APPROVED.

[2. Accept nominations and vote to appoint Chairperson.]

WE CAN ACCEPT. OUR FIRST ITEM IS TO ACCEPT NOMINATIONS AND VOTE TO APPOINT A CHAIRPERSON.

MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE I'M NEW, I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE APPEARED BEFORE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DAIS MANY TIMES.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING, AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THE CHAIRPERSON? DO YOU KNOW? I'VE BEEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING SINCE 2005 AND I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG I'VE BEEN CHAIRMAN, WHICH SHOULD TELL YOU HOW LONG I'VE BEEN CHAIRMAN. I'M GOING TO SAY EIGHT, SIX, EIGHT YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

QUITE A WHILE. YES.

I ALWAYS THINK IT IS GOOD TO KIND OF REFRESH THINGS, HAVE FRESH BLOOD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND IF I CAN MAKE A NOMINATION FOR CHAIR AND NOT IN ANY WAY BE DEROGATORY TOWARDS THE CURRENT CHAIRPERSON BECAUSE HE'S WORKED HIS TAIL OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE BRUCE EMERY FOR CHAIRPERSON.

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ARE WE GOING TO NOMINATE AND VOTE ON EVERY INDIVIDUAL OR DO WE JUST NOMINATE? SURE, I WILL.

OKAY. WELL THEN DO WE DO THE HANDS OR YOU WANT TO ROLL CALL? THE HANDS. OK. WELL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER EMERY BEING THE CHAIRPERSON OF P&Z , RAISE YOUR HANDS.

THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

WELL, ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'VE BEEN OVERTHROWN.

NO, THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THEN I'M NOT GOING TO NOMINATE YOU FOR VICE CHAIR.

[LAUGHTER] WELL, ALL RIGHT.

[3. Accept nominations and vote to appoint Vice-Chairperson.]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER HENDERSON AS VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER HENDERSON AS VICE CHAIR.

RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ALL RIGHT, THEN.

WELL, I'LL SWITCH SEATS.

OKAY. OFF YOU GO.

CONGRATULATIONS. I THINK YOU'LL DISCOVER THAT THE MAYOR MIGHT RECOGNIZE YOU IN PUBLIC IF YOU HAPPEN TO CROSS THE STREET. BUT THERE IS NO MONEY.

[INAUDIBLE] BEST OF LUCK.

[INAUDIBLE] WES, ANY CHANCE YOU HAVE ANOTHER HARD COPY? OH, THANKS.

I GOT THIS. ALL RIGHT.

[4. Consider approval of a preliminary plat of Oakwood Hills Addition Lots 1 thru 40, Block A and Lots 1 thru 15, Block B consisting of 53 residential lots and 2 open space lots being 10.2774 acres out of the B.B.B & C.R.R. Survey, Abstract No. 204 and being a replat of Tract A, Wesleyan Addition and Tract A, Concordia Addition within the City of Bedford, Tarrant County, Texas. The property is generally located north of Harwood Road, east of State Highway 121 and west of Forest Drive, commonly known as 3705 and 3709 Harwood Road. (PZ-PP-2022-500032)]

PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF HARWOOD ROAD, EAST OF STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND WEST OF FOREST DRIVE, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 3705 AND 3709 HARWOOD ROAD.

PZ-PP-2022-500032.

STAFF. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE DANCE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA CAPTION IS LOCATED IN THE FORMER LOCATION OF TWO CHURCHES, CONCORDIA LUTHERAN AND ST ANDREWS METHODIST.

THE PROPERTY THOSE TWO CHURCHES HAVE BEEN SINCE TORN DOWN AND THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN LATE OF 2021.

THE YEAH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THE PLAT MEETS THE VERY SIMILAR CONFIGURATION, IF NOT EXACT CONFIGURATION OF THAT OF THE ZONING EXHIBIT THAT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER OR I'M SORRY, LATE 2021.

IT IS FOR A LITTLE OVER TEN ACRES, 53 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

TEN ARE TWO OPEN SPACES.

AGAIN, SAME CONFIGURATION AS ZONING CHANGE.

PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS ARE CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY STAFF.

THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT AND THEN AS A CONDITION OF THE ZONING BACK IN LATE 2021 THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIREMENT THAT WAS PLACED AT THE TIME OF FINAL PLAT.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THAT FOR STAFF REVIEW AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.

TONIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THE PLAT.

IT DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AS ADOPTED BY ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

TONIGHT, YOU'LL TAKE ACTION.

YOU'LL EITHER APPROVE, DENY OR APPROVE WITH ANY CONDITIONS AS YOU SEE FIT.

ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

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MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN HELP OUT ON THIS, BECAUSE I TOLD HIM EARLIER I WAS GOING TO ASK.

I HAD WALKED THE PROPERTY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLAT.

BUT BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE FOR A WHILE AND I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT HOAS AND RESIDENTS AND SO ON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM IF THAT'S OKAY AND I'LL ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO YOU.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLAT, AND IF I SAY SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO, I'M ASSUMING THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL ME.

I CAN'T ASK THAT. WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE A MANDATORY HOA? THAT'S CORRECT. IT WILL. OKAY.

THE PERIMETER FENCE, WILL IT ALL BE MASONRY OR WILL SOME BE WOOD? THE MASONRY FENCE. COULD WE GO BACK TO.

THE MASONRY FENCE WILL BE ON HARWOOD ROAD HERE, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE A WOOD FENCE THAT SURROUNDS THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY AROUND THE COMMUNITY. OK WILL YOU END UP THEN WHERE YOU PUT THE WOOD FENCE? WE END UP WITH DUAL FENCES AGAINST, LET'S SAY THE BANDERA ADDITION AND ALSO ST MICHAELS, WHERE YOU HAVE A GAP IN BETWEEN BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT AS A PROBLEM WHERE YOU HAVE RODENTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO I'M JUST I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.

GREAT QUESTION. ACTUALLY, NO, WE WON'T WE WILL TAKE OUR FENCE.

HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO HERE THEN COME OVER AND THEN RIGHT HERE ARE THE BACK OF THOSE STORAGE FACILITIES.

RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BE A CONCRETE PHASE.

AND THEN OVER HERE NORTH TOWARDS BANDERA.

THERE'S A STRETCH OF ABOUT 25, 50 FEET, GIVE OR TAKE, THAT IS ACTUALLY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

SO WE DON'T INTEND TO GO PAST THAT.

WE'LL GO UP TO THE BACK OF THAT.

RIGHT. SO WHERE YOUR SILT FENCES ARE TODAY, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION OF WHERE.

YES, SIR. WHERE YOU'RE BUTTING UP AGAINST OR ADJOINING BUSINESSES, THE STORAGE FACILITY, EVEN THOUGH ST MICHAEL'S IS A CHURCH, WILL YOU BE GOING ANY ADDITIONAL HEIGHT INSTEAD OF A SIX FOOT FENCE? YOU BE DOING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE THERE.

WE'LL BE TAKING SIX FOOT, SIX FOOT ALL THE WAY AROUND.

NO, EIGHT FOOT, UNLESS WE HAVE SOME HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT EIGHT FOOT.

AND THEN WE CAN GO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GO THERE.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF EXISTING TREES, LARGE TREES THERE, POST OAK, BLACKJACK OAKS, BRADFORD PEARS, PINES, CRAPE, MYRTLES AND ETC.

ON IT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO KEEP THOSE TREES BECAUSE THEY'RE VALUABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SELLING HOMES TO.

I'M ASSUMING THAT POSSIBLY BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE LARGE.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 20 INCHES EXCUSE ME, 20 INCHES IN CIRCUMFERENCE.

AND WILL YOU BE IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT EITHER FOR STREETS OR BUILDING OF THE HOUSE OR DRIVEWAYS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WILL YOU BE REPLACING THOSE ON A PER CALIPER BASIS? FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN'T REPLACE A 20 INCH TREE, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY PUT IN TEN TWO INCH TREES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

CURRENTLY, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS OUR HIGH POINT ON THE PROPERTY.

YOU GUYS CAN SEE OVER HERE WE'RE STREET B IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS THE HIGH POINT.

AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY USING ALL OF THE DIRT ON SITE TO RE MITIGATE ACROSS THE AREA.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S A HIGH POINT, WE HAVE TO SHAVE THAT HIGH POINT DOWN AND MOVE DIRT TO LOWER POINTS OF THE PROPERTY.

DOES THAT KIND OF MAKE SENSE? AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS, YES, A LOT OF TREES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT.

AND TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE PASTORS OF ONE OF THE CHURCHES HAS SPENT MANY, MANY YEARS WITH AN ARBORIST TAKING CARE OF THOSE TREES.

AND THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 10% LIFE LEFT ON THOSE TREES AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF LIFE LEFT ON THOSE TREES TO BEGIN WITH.

BUT EACH OF THE HOMES WE WILL FOLLOW, CITY ORDINANCES IN EACH OF THE HOMES WILL HAVE TREES IN THE YARDS.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION, BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE ON OUR TREE ORDINANCE AND SO ON.

AND I WAS TALKING TO [INAUDIBLE] DON'T WE LOCATE THOSE TREES WITH LIKE A [INAUDIBLE] SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE? SO WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED IS DURING THEIR FINAL PLOT STAGE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US WITH A TREE SURVEY.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL TO VERIFY THAT.

AND THEN THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT ANY TREE THAT'S REMOVED HAS TO BE REPLACED WITH A THREE INCH CALIBER TREE.

AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT.

AND LIKE THEY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOME IN THEIR YARDS ALREADY.

THAT'S A ZONING REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO MEET THE..

WE WON'T BE DOING WHEN WE GO BACK.

YOU'RE SAYING WE TAKE DOWN A 20 INCH BLACKJACK OAK AND THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE I LOOK AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT WITH A THREE INCH CALIPER OR ARE WE GOING TO BE

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IS THIS GOING TO AND BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT FLOWS TO ST MICHAELS AND THEN MOVES OVER TOWARDS RUSTIC WOODS AND GOES INTO THE DRAINAGE OR THE CREEK CHANNEL THERE, IS THIS IN ANY WAY GOING TO INCREASE THE VOLUME OR THE VELOCITY, VELOCITY OF THAT WATER AS IT MOVES INTO THAT CREEK CHANNEL? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

I'LL PASS OUT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS ON THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WE PASSED OUT AT CITY COUNCIL IS THIS OK [INAUDIBLE].

AND WHILE WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND BUSINESS NAME, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ZAK PENN WITH KEY LIFE HOMES.

I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 300 RUNNING BEAR COURT IN EULESS, TEXAS.

THANK YOU. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT, WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CITY STAFF AND TO THE COMMUNITY TO THE EAST. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WATER THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY THERE, WHICH ARE OUR CONCERNS TOO AS WELL.

SO THROUGH ENGINEERING OF THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE GONE AND IMPROVED THE THE THE PEAK WATER FLOW BY 25% THROUGH IMPROVED ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS.

SO BY LAW, MOST CITIES IN MOST STATES ARE REQUIRED TO ONLY GO UP TO THAT PEAK WATER FLOW.

WE'VE REDUCED THAT PEAK WATER FLOW BY 25% THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THERE WILL BE WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, BUT WE'RE REDUCING THAT PEAK WATER FLOW BY 25%.

SO WHEN THAT FLOWS OUT, I'M ASSUMING IT WILL FLOW ON TO ST MICHAEL'S PROPERTY.

AND AS THAT DETENTION POND SLOWLY DRAINS IT TO GO OUT THROUGH A WEIR, AM I CORRECT TO REDUCE THAT THAT FLOW? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

ACTUALLY, THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING AND THIS IS A BIG PLUS FOR ST MICHAEL'S, WE'VE REDUCED ABOUT 90 PLUS PERCENT OF CURRENT WATER FLOW THAT'S SHEDDING ACROSS THE TOP TO ST MICHAEL'S.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN IN ST MICHAEL'S PARKING LOT, THERE'S A REAL LOW LYING AREA OVER THERE WITH TWO STORM DRAIN AREAS AND A LOT OF WATER COMES ACROSS THERE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IF I WAS A CHILD, IT WOULD NOT STAND IN FRONT OF THAT BECAUSE A CHILD COULD BE CERTAINLY SWEPT AWAY.

WHAT WE'RE REDUCING IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE REDUCING 90% OF THAT WATER FLOW AND PUTTING IT INTO THAT DETENTION POND LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST OF THE PROPERTY THERE. AND WHAT IT WILL DO THAT ACTS LIKE A TUB.

AND SO IT WILL FILL UP LIKE A TUB.

AND THEN AS AS THE PEAK OF THE RAIN, THE PEAK OF THE HIGH POINT OF THE RAIN IS THAT GOES DOWN.

IT WILL EMPTY OUT MUCH LIKE A TUB DOES.

THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION, I HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE.

THERE'S ALSO THE VILLAS OF RUSTIC WOODS.

AND WHEN THAT WAS BUILT, THE DRAINAGE WASN'T DESIGNED PROPERLY.

THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND REDESIGN.

IN FACT, THE CITY STOPPED THE DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE CITY BROUGHT IN A OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRM TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND TO REDO.

I KEEP HITTING THIS. I'M SORRY.

THAT DETENTION POND.

THEY ALSO HAD TO CHANGE THE SLOPE OF OF THE DRAINAGE OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE SOME DRAINED FORWARD, SOME DRAINED BACKWARDS.

SO BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS THING AND YOU FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

GREAT QUESTION. NOT ONLY DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A LIABILITY, THE CITY EXCUSE ME, THE CITY ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT THIS, OUR ENGINEER AND THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY HIRED A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER.

AND THAT'S HERE ON THIS SHEET OF PAPER.

DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS AN EXCERPT ON THE VERY FRONT PAGE.

AND BASED UPON THIS, IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PARAGRAPH BASED UPON THE PROPOSED DESIGN AND CALCULATIONS PROVIDED IN THE DRAINAGE RETENTION PLANS, HALF AGREES THAT THE DESIGN PRESENTS A NO ADVERSE DRAINAGE IMPACT SCENARIO.

SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE PEAK WATER FLOW TO WHAT'S DOWNSTREAM BY 25%. THAT'S A BIG WIN.

AGAIN, MOST CITIES YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WOULD NOT DO THAT.

BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DETENTION POND WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA.

YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT. I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

THERE'S AN AERIAL PHONE LINE THAT'S GOING IN THERE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WHEN THE UTILITIES GO IN, YOU'LL BE DOING I'M ASSUMING, YOU'LL BE DOING THEY'LL BE DOING FIBER FOR FOR TELEPHONE OR INTERNET

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SO COMING OFF OF THAT TO THE FROM THE SITE TO THE WEST IN BETWEEN THE ALLEYWAY OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND OUR SITE. SO YOU WILL HAVE SOME AERIAL ON THE PROPERTY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND ACTUALLY THOSE ARE ACTUALLY SPLIT BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

OKAY. AND THEN JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION, AT LEAST FOR ME, AND THAT IS STREET D.

WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT HAD IT HAD SOME LIMITED INGRESS AND EGRESS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN OPENING IN THE ISLAND.

IF I WAS LOOKING PROPERLY AND MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT I SO IT APPEARS THAT IT WILL BE, I THINK, EASY TO ACCESS IT COMING EAST TO WEST, BUT NOT SO MUCH GOING WEST TO EAST, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? IS THERE AN ISLAND THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF HARWOOD OR DID I MISREAD THAT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE P&Z, THEY ACTUALLY REQUESTED.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THAT SHEET OF PAPER, IT'S A LITTLE DATED, BUT IT SAYS STREET A IT'S JUST A CONCEPTUAL PLAN . THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY THE ENGINEERS HAVE ACTUALLY MADE THE PROPOSAL TO PUT A LEFT HAND TURN LANE GOING INTO STREET A, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WESLEYAN OAK STREET.

SO THAT WILL BE THE NAME OF THAT STREET.

AND SO THAT WILL HELP WITH TRAFFIC FLOW AS WELL IN TERMS OF THIS PROJECT.

BUT ON STREET D AM I CORRECT? I THINK THERE'S AN ISLAND THINK THERE ON HARWOOD AND SO AS THE TRAFFIC FLOWS BASICALLY EAST TO WEST ON HARWOOD, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO GET IN THAT WAY.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK, COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE YOU MEAN STREET B, WHICH IS THE WESTERNMOST STREET COMING OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION.

IT LOOKS LIKE D ON MINE STREET B SO IS THAT GOING TO BE AS, AS I WAS SAYING, YOUR IT WILL BE EASY TO ACCESS IT COMING IN FROM BASICALLY EAST TO WEST, BUT COMING THE OTHER WAY YOU'LL ALMOST HAVE TO DO A LOOP AROUND THE CURRENT MEDIAN THAT'S THERE.

AM I RIGHT ON THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT IS BY DESIGN FOR TRAFFIC FLOW, IT'S A RIGHT RIGHT HAND TURN LANE ONLY.

SO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN HARWOOD FROM THE EAST AND ACCESS THAT STREET.

CONCORDIA OAK STREET IS ACTUALLY WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS.

IT'S ON STREET B, THEY'LL ACCESS IT FROM THERE TO GET OUT.

THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A RIGHT HAND TURN ONLY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

JUST QUICKLY. WELL, MAYBE FOR THE DEVELOPER BOTH SINCE THIS IS A REVISION OF THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY PLAT.

HELP US WITH WHAT CHANGED.

WELL, THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE THANK YOU. SO RIGHT NOW THERE REALLY ARE THREE SEPARATE LOTS THAT ARE THERE.

SO WE'RE COMBINING THEM ALL INTO ONE OR, WELL, ONE SUBDIVISION.

AND SO THAT'S THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION IS WHAT'S CHANGING.

OKAY. SO THE ORIGINAL PLAT THAT WE SAW, THOSE WERE STILL SHOWING AS SEPARATE LOTS.

IS THAT. YES.

YES. SO THIS IS THE CHURCHES WERE ON THEIR OWN SEPARATE LOTS.

OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, COMMISSIONERS, IS THIS IS THE TOTAL COMBINATION OF THE THREE SEPARATE LOTS INTO THE RIGHT PLAT BEFORE THE FINAL PLAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER? AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, TO MAKE AN ON THE RECORD FOR THIS ITEM CONCERNING THE THE DRAINAGE AND MR. COMMISSIONER GILMORE BROUGHT UP SOME OTHER THINGS HAS BEEN A TOPIC THAT'S BEEN WORKED REAL HARD BY COUNCIL AND STAFF ACROSS THE CITY AND EVEN WITH THE UNATTACHED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT PROPERTY LINE AS SINCE OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THIS IS FOR MY CONTINUING EDUCATION AS A NEW COMMISSIONER.

FIRST OF ALL, I DO HOPE THE PLATS IN THE FUTURE ARE NOT QUITE AS BUSY AS THIS.

MY EYES WERE NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO SEE THAT.

SO BUT WITH RESPECT TO THAT WAS A GREAT BRIEFING WE HAD LAST TIME THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.

BUT COULD YOU REFRESH ME OR US WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERSIGHT THAT THE STAFF DOES ON THESE PLATS BEFORE WE GET THEM, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT

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WHAT ARE YOUR PRIMARY LOOKS WHEN YOU LOOK AT A AT A PLAT LIKE THIS? SO THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS TO TO LOOK AT LOT LAYOUT AND IN THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION AS IT SITS TODAY.

USUALLY IN THIS CASE THERE WAS THERE'S PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE, PRELIMINARY UTILITY LAYOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONCEPTUALLY GOING TO WORK WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE CITY.

IT'S REALLY WHEN WE GET INTO THE FINAL PLAT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TONIGHT.

IT'S JUST THAT PRELIMINARY STAGE.

AND PLEASE, MR. ATTORNEY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE'S NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A, IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE FIRST STEP TO FOR THE APPLICANT KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING INTO AND FOR THE CITY YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACCEPTING AND THEY'RE APPROVING. AND SO THE FINAL PLAT IS YOUR NEXT STEP AND THAT BEFORE THAT COMES TO YOU STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE DETAILED ENGINEERING PLANS THAT ARE GOING TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT'LL DETAIL EXACTLY WHAT THE DRAINAGE COUNTS ARE GOING TO BE AS MR. [INAUDIBLE] WAS GETTING TO.

IT'LL DETAIL EXACTLY THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED FROM THE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

IT'LL DETAIL ALL OF THAT.

THE ANY EASEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BASED ON THOSE DETAILS WILL BE SHOWN ON YOUR FINAL PLAT.

SO ONCE THE FINAL PLAT IS DONE, THEN THAT GOES ON.

AND ASSUMING THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER APPROVALS NEEDED BY THIS BOARD OR CITY COUNCIL, IT COULD GO STRAIGHT INTO BUILDING PERMIT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO PRELIMINARY PLATS, WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST IDENTIFYING THAT IT MEETS THE CURRENT ZONING, IT MEETS THE GENERAL LAYOUT AND ALL THE SUBDIVISION RULES THAT THE CITY HAS. AS LONG AS IT DOES THAT, WHICH IT DOES TONIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO INTO DETAILED ENGINEERING REVIEW THAT'S DONE AT A STAFF APPROVAL LEVEL.

ONCE IT DOES, THAT WE'LL COME BACK BEFORE YOU WITH A FINAL PLAT.

AND IF AGAIN ASSUMING THAT WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED AND THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED AND BELIEVES IT MEETS ALL OF ITS STANDARDS, IT WILL COME TO YOU FOR FINAL PLAT YOU'LL APPROVE IT AND THEN THAT'S RECORDED THE COUNTY AND BUILDING PERMITS ARE PULLED ON THAT.

DOES THAT HELP? VERY MUCH.

GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WES.

GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

THERE. WE GOT IT. NOW I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT, CORRECTION, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE OAK HILLS OAKWOOD HILLS ADDITION LOTS 1 THROUGH 40 BLOCK A AND LOTS 1 THROUGH 15 BLOCK B CONSISTING OF 53 LOTS.

THAT NUMBER IS PZ-PP-2022-500032.

I SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. WE APPROVE THAT ITEM.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

SECOND, THAT MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

NICE MEETING. THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.