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[CALL TO ORDER/GENERAL COMMENTS]
WE WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BEDFORD CITY COUNCIL.LET'S START OFF WITH AN INVOCATION LED BY MAYOR PRO TEM AMY SABOL.
[INVOCATION] FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND BRINGING US TOGETHER TODAY.
LORD WE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEETING HOLDS WE KNOW THAT YOU DO.
LET US KEEP YOUR WORD IN MIND.
LEAD US INTO CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE FRUITFUL AND ENRICH OUR LIVES.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, WHEN WE ARE UNDECIDED, PLEASE LEAD US INTO YOUR WISDOM, WHEN OUR OPINIONS MAY DISAGREE, HELP US TO REMAIN RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER. [INAUDIBLE] SORRY.
MORE THAN ANYTHING LORD, WOULD YOU HELP US BOTH TO SEEK YOUR WILL AND TO PURSUE YOUR GLORY? THROUGH ALL THAT WE SAY AND DO, IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'VE GOT ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY.
THIS AFTERNOON, THE CITY RECEIVED THE RESIGNATION IN WRITING OF COUNCIL MEMBER CINDY ALMENDAREZ.
SO NEXT UP, COUNCIL RECOGNITION.
WE DO NOT HAVE OFFICER FLORES, IS THAT CORRECT? THIS EVENING? OKAY.
[COUNCIL RECOGNITION]
SO NEXT UP, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD.[INAUDIBLE] READ THE PROCLAMATION.
I THINK CHIEF WILLIAMS INVITE YOU TO THE PODIUM.
WHEREAS CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE AND OUR GREATEST RESOURCE.
AND WHEREAS, ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN PROVIDED TRAUMA INFORMED SERVICES TO 2497 CHILDREN IN 2021.
AND WHEREAS, EFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION INVESTIGATION AND TREATMENT PROGRAMS SUCCEED BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS AMONG PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AGENCIES, SCHOOLS, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, MEDICAL SERVICES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I AM MICHAEL BOYTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2022 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP REDUCE CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE YEARS TO COME.
I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE, I BELIEVE, SHELLIE VELASCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW THINGS? AND YOU'RE WITH THE ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN.
SO WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
AGAIN, APRIL IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROTECT CHILDREN ALL YEAR ROUND.
BUT APRIL HAS A SPECIAL FOCUS.
WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY PROTECTIVE SERVICES, MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU THINK WOULD NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO HELP PROTECT KIDS.
YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE]
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.SO WE WANT TO WELCOME GREG RUSK, THE PRESIDENT OF [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU, SIR. GREAT TO SEE YOU.
GOOD TO BE SEEN. YES, DEFINITELY.
AND. WHEREAS, NATIONAL AMBUCS VISIBILITY MONTH BRINGS TOGETHER VOLUNTEERS AND COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A HOST OF PROJECTS SUCH AS CONSTRUCTING WHEELCHAIR RAMPS, INSTALLING SAFETY, GRAB BARS AND BATHROOMS, AND VISITING HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS.
AND WHEREAS, IN ADDITION TO PROMOTING SERVICE ACTIVITIES, EACH AMBUCS CHAPTER CONTRIBUTES TO TWO NATIONAL PROGRAMS THE AMTRAK THERAPEUTIC TRICYCLE PROJECT, WHICH PROVIDES SPECIAL CYCLES IN HOMES, SCHOOLS, AND REHABILITATION FACILITIES FOR CHILDREN AND VETERANS WITH DISABILITIES AND AMBUCS SCHOLARS, SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THERAPISTS. A PROGRAM THAT AWARDS MORE THAN $200,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS EACH YEAR TO STUDENTS IN ACCREDITED THERAPY PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS, MEMBERS OF AMBUCS HAVE DEMONSTRATED AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO ENRICHING THE LIVES OF OTHERS AND FOR THEIR EFFORTS, THEY ARE TRULY DESERVING OF PRAISE.
NOW, THEREFORE, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I, MICHAEL BOYTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2022 AS NATIONAL AMBUCS VISIBILITY MONTH IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT ALL THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE NATIONAL AMBUCS VISIBILITY MONTH BE COMMENDED FOR THEIR WORK ON BEHALF OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND THAT THEY BE EXTENDED. BEST WISHES FOR SUCCESSFUL AND MEMORABLE SERVICE.
[APPLAUSE] YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? YES, SIR. IF YOU ALL DID THE MATH, 1922 IS 100 YEARS AGO.
THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN AROUND.
IT WAS FOUNDED IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, IN MAY 1922.
WE HAVE AND FAR AS SCHOLARSHIPS GO.
WE JUST THANK YOU, SIR, AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN YOU.
[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU AGAIN, GREG.
LASTLY, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE WEEK OF MAY 15TH THROUGH 21, 2022 AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND SUNDAY, MAY 15, 2022 AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY.
ONCE AGAIN, WE WELCOME POLICE CHIEF JEFF WILLIAMS. AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT READS, WHEREAS THE CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE DESIGNATED MAY 15TH AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY AND THE WEEK IN WHICH MAY 15TH FALLS AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK.
AND WHEREAS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL CITIZENS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES, HAZARDS AND SACRIFICES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, AND THAT MEMBERS OF THE BEDFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZE THEIR DUTY TO SERVE THE PEOPLE BY SAFEGUARDING LIFE AND PROPERTY, BY PROTECTING THEM AGAINST VIOLENCE AND DISORDER, AND BY PROTECTING THE INNOCENT AGAINST DECEPTION AND THE WEAK AGAINST OPPRESSION.
NOW, THEREFORE, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I, MICHAEL BOYTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND THE CITY COUNCIL, CALL UPON OUR CITIZENS AND ALL CIVIC AND EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO OBSERVE THE WEEK OF MAY 15TH THROUGH THE 21ST 2022 AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK, WITH APPROPRIATE CEREMONIES AND OBSERVANCES IN WHICH OUR PEOPLE MAY JOIN IN COMMEMORATING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PAST AND PRESENT, WHO, BY THEIR FAITHFUL AND LOYAL DEVOTION TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES, HAVE RENDERED A DEDICATED SERVICE
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TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND IN DOING SO, HAVE ESTABLISHED FOR THEMSELVES AN ENVIABLE AND ENDURING REPUTATION FOR PRESERVING THE RIGHTS AND SECURITY OF ALL CITIZENS.I FURTHER CALL UPON CITIZENS OF BEDFORD TO OBSERVE SUNDAY, MAY 15TH, 2022, AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY IN HONOR OF THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO, THROUGH THEIR COURAGEOUS DEEDS, HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY OR HAVE BECOME DISABLED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF DUTY.
AND LET US RECOGNIZE AND PAY RESPECT TO THE SURVIVORS OF OUR FALLEN HEROES.
AND THANK YOU COUNCIL, FOR THE RECOGNITION.
AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR FOR SUPPORTING US.
I'D ASK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS A THIS IS STILL A TRYING TIME FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
BUT IN BEDFORD, WE TRULY FEEL THE SUPPORT OF OUR CITIZENS HERE.
SO OVER THAT WEEK, GIVE THEM A KIND WORD, GIVE THEM A PAT ON THE BACK.
YOU KNOW, SAY IF YOU WAVE AT THEM, WAVE WITH ALL FIVE FINGERS.
[APPLAUSE] AND WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE SUPPORT STAFF HERE WITH US TO KIND OF HELP RECOGNITION.
THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT DO THE WORK BEHIND BEHIND THE SCENES EVERY DAY.
SO I'LL LET THEM COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE IF YOU WANT.
[OPEN FORUM]
NEXT UP IS OPEN FORUM.I HAVEN'T HAD TO READ THIS IN A LONG TIME.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGN IN.
FURTHER OPEN FORUM IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNED UP FOR OPEN FORUM.
SO WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. BOB COCHRAN. WELCOME, SIR.
THANK YOU. IN SPITE OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK, I WILL NOT NEED 30 MINUTES.
ITEM FIVE, THE SMOKING RESOLUTION, WHATEVER.
WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA, IT APPEARS EULESS HAS A MORE RESTRICTIVE ONE THAN WE DO.
OURS APPLIES TO FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS ONLY, AND EULESS INCLUDES FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN LINE, SUCH AS RETAIL STORES, GROCERY STORES, WHATNOT.
AND BEING A REFORMED SMOKER FOR 39 YEARS NOW AFTER SMOKING 30 YEARS THAT COMES CLOSE TO BEING RIGHT.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
I MEAN, I REALIZE MOST RETAIL PLACES DON'T ALLOW SMOKING THESE DAYS, BUT NO REASON NOT TO CODIFY IT.
OKAY. SO FIRST OFF, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE OUT HERE SOMEWHERE IN THE OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE.
IT'S BEDFORD COMMONS, NOT BEDFORD SQUARE.
OKAY. AND THEY USE THAT TERM A COUPLE OF TIMES, I THINK, AS I'M SURE THE PLAN THEY SUBMITTED WILL NOT BE THE FINAL ONE, BUT COMPARING IT TO WHAT THE CITY PROVIDED WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR THE RFEIS.
THERE'S TOO MUCH RETAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ELDON.
THERE'S TOO MANY TOWNHOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE.
LOOKS TO BE EXTREMELY CONDENSED AND I GUESS IS THAT GREEN SPACE AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
I TRIED TO DO SOME OVERLAY OF THE PLAN WITH AERIAL SHOTS.
THERE'S A VERY LARGE TREE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BEDFORD ROAD, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
HOPEFULLY THE TOWNHOMES, HOUSES GOING THERE CAN BE DONE SUCH THAT THAT TREE COULD BE SAVED.
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I MEAN, WE GOT SOME FAMOUS TREES HERE.AND ON THEIR PLAN, THERE'S ONE AREA OF TOWNHOUSES THAT ONLY HAS ONE ENTRANCE SLASH EXIT.
AND I REALIZE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THIS WON'T WORK.
OKAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT.
PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE, WELL, FIRST OFF.
OKAY, SO THEY COME IN AT, WHAT, 8 POINT SOMETHING? 8.4 MILLION BUDGET ON SOMETHING THAT WE'VE KNOWN AND SAID FOR SOME TIME.
WE HAVE A BUDGET A LITTLE UNDER 6 MILLION.
OKAY. SO. MAKES ME THINK THEY DON'T PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION.
WE DON'T NEED A BLACK BOX THEATER.
THE MEETING ROOMS AND BOARD ROOMS COULD BE COMBINED AND DIVVIED UP BY ACCORDION DIVIDERS INSTEAD OF HAVING A LARGE ROOM, A SMALL ROOM, A BOARDROOM.
BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT ALL GOING TO BE IN USE AT ONE TIME AND I DEBATED SUGGESTING SOME COMBINING OF GREEN ROOM AND MEETING ROOMS. AND MY WIFE, WHO I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW IS A PROFESSIONAL VOCALIST AND HAD THE REGAL OPERA COMPANY FOR 20 YEARS.
MEETING ROOMS, YOU NEED TABLES PUT.
SO MY TIME IS NOT UP, BUT I AM.
WOW. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ITEMS BY CONSENT]
OKAY. THAT'S THE END OF OPEN FORUM.NEXT UP, WE HAVE SOME ITEMS TO CONSIDER BY CONSENT.
SO WE HAVE CITY MANAGER JIMMY STATHATOS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS AND ROB IS HAVING A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY, SO THANK YOU, MOLLY, FOR HELPING HIM.
THE FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 22ND COUNCIL MINUTES.
AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE 2021-3301 REGARDING PAY STRUCTURES AS PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
BASICALLY, THIS IS A CLEANUP ITEM.
THIS WILL REPEAL THE ORDINANCE AND THEN IT WILL PUT ALL THOSE PAY ORDINANCES, TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT, PAY, STANDBY PAY AND SEND THEM CERTIFICATION PAY IN DIFFERENTIAL PAY INTO THE PERSONNEL MANUAL.
SO IT WILL ALL BE EASILY FOUND AND IT WILL BE EASILY AMENDED IF NECESSARY.
THE FINAL ITEM IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
THIS HAS BEEN A COUNCIL GOAL FOR A WHILE AND IT IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GARVER, USA, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $152,417 TO PROVIDE DESIGN AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE REHABILITATION AND PAINTING OF THE $2 MILLION GALLON CUMMINGS ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
SO I'D LIKE TO THANK CHERYL TAYLOR.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS. BUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM NUMBER TWO.
LOOKS LIKE COUNCIL JUST PUT THAT AS AN ORDINANCE LAST YEAR.
SO WHY ARE WE VOTING TO CHANGE IT NOW? BECAUSE THE PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY GAVE US DIFFERENT ADVICE, AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MOST EFFICIENT TO HAVE ALL THE PERSONAL STUFF TOGETHER. AND THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT WE COULD DO THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK SO QUICKLY.
IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY TYPE OF NO BUDGET IMPACT AT ALL.
IT'S STRICTLY ACADEMIC AND HOUSEKEEPING.
MINE HAS TO DO WITH THE WATER TANK.
ARE WE SOLICITING ANY KIND OF ARTWORK FOR THE TOWER? IT'S FUNNY YOU MENTION THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE UP THERE.
BUT WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO PUT OUR SIGNATURE ON IT TO WHERE IT SHOWS SOME FLAIR.
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I MEAN, SOMETHING RESPECTFUL THAT YOU LIKE IT THAT IS VERY VISIBLE FROM THE FREEWAY.OK THANKS MS. CULVER ANYONE ELSE.
WHAT WAS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE? SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER.
IT WORKED. YAY! $400,000 AND WE GOT IT TO WORK.
GOOD LUCK SWIPING THE VOTE SO WE CAN DO THE NEXT ITEM.
[4. Public hearing and consider an ordinance to rezone the property described as Lot 1 Block 1 Harwood 121 Addition, located at 3501 Harwood Road, from Heavy Commercial within the Master Highway Corridor Overlay (H/MHC) to Heavy Commercial within the Master Highway Corridor Overlay/Specific Use Permit/Full-Service Gasoline Service Station with Convenience Store. (PZ-SUP-2022-500013) (Item was recommended for approval by the Planning and Zoning Commission by a vote of 5-0-0)]
SO NEXT UP NEW BUSINESS ITEM FOUR.WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, AN ORDINANCE TO RAISE ON THE PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE HARWOOD 121 EDITION LOCATED AT 3501 HARWOOD ROAD FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY SLASH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SLASH FULL SERVICE GASOLINE SERVICE STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU A PLANNING MANAGER.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A 200 AND I'M SORRY, 2800 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS CELLS. SITES LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF HARWOOD AND 121. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE AS WELL.
IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN, SO IT DIDN'T REQUIRE THE SUPS.
SO WE'RE REALLY KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE HERE.
AGAIN, IT'S 2800 SQUARE FEET, EIGHT FUEL PUMPS AND LOCATED IN THE OVERLAY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THE SITE, MAJOR CHANGES ON THE SITE.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S BEEN CLEARED ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM HARWOOD.
RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE TWO ACCESS POINTS.
SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WORK WITH TXDOT.
JUST THE PROJECT GOES FASTER THAT WAY.
SO BUT IT'S THREE 800 SQUARE FEET AND EIGHT FUEL PUMPS.
SO 16 SPACES FOR CARS TO PARK THERE.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF IDEA OF WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
IT IS GOING TO MEET ALL OF OUR STANDARDS IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO FULL MASONRY BUILDING, INCLUDING THE COLUMNS ON THE CANOPY AND THE TAPERED ROOF.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SUPS, I KNOW YOU'LL KNOW THIS, BUT WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THE USE IS COMPATIBLE, CONSIDERING THE USE HAS BEEN A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS CELLS FOR ABOUT 30 OR MORE YEARS, THE SITE REALLY HAD THE AREA HASN'T CHANGED TOO MUCH UNTIL THE FUTURE COMES WHICH WE'VE GOT FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FURTHER TO THE EAST FUTURE OFFICE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM TO THE SOUTH THERE AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS STILL FAST FOOD OR DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT AND A SHOPPING CENTER.
WE DID PUBLIC NOTICE ON THE REQUEST OF FIVE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED.
I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE VERY GOOD COUNSEL.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING? JUST TEAR IT UP WEST.
SORRY. OKAY. DON'T TOUCH THE MICROPHONE THOUGH.
I'M NOT TOUCH ANYTHING. COUNCIL MEMBER I HAVE TO COUNT NOW.
LANDSCAPING IS WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED BECAUSE IT'S A VERY VISIBLE SPOT RIGHT THERE.
THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES A MINIMUM 20% OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPED AREA.
40 OF THAT 32% IS GOING TO BE IN THE FRONT YARD.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE ALONG HARWOOD AND FRONTAGE ROAD OF 121.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTINUOUS ROW OF SHRUBS.
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THANK YOU, MR. STEVE. SO HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS FOOTPRINT? IT'S. IT'S JUST UNDER ONE ACRE, I BELIEVE.IT'S I THINK IT'S WELL, JUST OVER ONE ACRE.
I'M SORRY, 44,000 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE.
AND DID THE APPLICANT ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY? I BELIEVE THEY HAVE. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED? SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:26.
ANYONE WHO HAS ANYTHING LIKE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, PLEASE COME UP TO THE DAIS.
[INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS COUNCIL.
I'M ROGER [INAUDIBLE], LIVE AT 4013 FAIRMONT COURT, FAIRMONT VILLAS.
BUT NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT OR DICE IT, IT'S A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE.
IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, ROCK ISLAND [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO BE MOVING IN ACROSS THE STREET AND SPENDING AT LEAST $5 MILLION ON THAT FORMER WALMART BUILDING AND THAT SHOPPING CENTER AND UPSCALING IT.
THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE BRINGING IN CLIENTELE THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUYING, IN SOME CASES, SIX FIGURE MILITARY ITEMS, WHETHER NAPOLEON, DUELING SWORDS OR ANYTHING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR WEAPON OR SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MURPHY OIL.
BUT WE'VE GOT ONE AT THE WALMART JUST OFF OF [INAUDIBLE].
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT IN THE AREA.
THEY'RE EVEN FARTHER UP THE ROAD.
IT'S IN GRAPEVINE OFF OF PAUL JOHNSON.
AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU, YOU KNOW, I THINK I KNOW THIS COUNCIL PRETTY WELL.
I KNOW ALL YOU, YOU KNOW ME AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THIS TOWN FORWARD.
AND LIKE IT OR NOT, WE'RE MOVING OUT OF THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE TO EVS.
[INAUDIBLE] PORSCHE AND THEY HAD SOME OTHER HIGH END CARS WILL BE EVS.
GM HAS STATED THEY WILL BE ALL EVS.
THAT'S ALL THEY'LL MANUFACTURE BY THE YEAR 2035.
FORD TODAY ACTUALLY TODAY ROLLED OUT THEIR NEW FORD F-150 LIGHTNING PICKUP.
THEY'VE HAD TO INCREASE THEIR PRODUCTION AMOUNT BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND.
AND I DON'T OWN A TRUCK, I OWN A RIG OR CAR.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, THE F-150 IS THE TOP SELLING VEHICLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
SO FORD'S MAKING A COMMITMENT TO THIS.
THIS IS HAPPENING WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
SO LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, ARE WE GOING TO PUT IN A GAS STATION AND SO ON AND SO FORTH? AND THEN SO MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL BE TAKING IT OUT BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC THERE.
WE'LL HAVE TRAFFIC, BUT NOT THE DEMAND FOR GASOLINE.
I'VE BEEN IN HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND I WALK IN BECAUSE OF YOU THAT KNOW, ME KNOW.
THE GARDEN SECTION ATTRACTS ME AND I WALKED THROUGH AND ALL THE MOTORS ARE ELECTRIC POWERED.
THEY HAVE A BATTERY WITH THEM.
YOU DON'T POUR GASOLINE IN THEM ANYMORE.
AND THE QUESTION GOES, WELL, WHAT COULD GO ON THAT CORNER? AND I REMEMBER I DON'T KNOW IF MRS. CULVER REMEMBERS IT, BUT SHE SAID WHEN THE 711 WAS GOING IN, ARE WE GOING TO GET A WINE BAR IN IT? AND THE REPRESENTATIVE SAID, NO, THAT'S JUST A PROTOTYPE.
I THINK THIS IS CALLED HER WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT WE WEREN'T GETTING THAT.
SO ON THAT CORNER, COULD YOU PUT A COFFEE WINE BISTRO WHERE THEY WERE SERVING COFFEE AND ASSOCIATED PASTRIES WITH THAT IN THE MORNING AND WINE IN THE EVENING FOR SOME OF THESE HIGH END CLIENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN PATRONIZING ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU KNOW, MY WIFE, SHE MENTIONED A CORNER BAKERY.
THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH PARKING DO WE HAVE? THERE'S A LOT NORTH OF IT.
IT WAS GREEN GRASS AND IT'S OWNED BY THE BURGER STREET RESTAURANT.
YOU COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE.
AND RECENTLY YOU APPOINTED SOME NEW FOLKS TO P AND Z.
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AND ONE OF YOUR REASONS FOR APPOINTING THEM WAS NOT JUST TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, IF IT'S HEAVY COMMERCIAL, PASS IT THROUGH.HE KNOWS YOU KNOW HE KNOWS WHAT'S MD THREE MD FOR SERVICE, COMMERCIAL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THIS CITY.
YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THIS CITY FORWARD FROM YEARS OF MEDIOCRITY.
AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT BEFORE, AND I'VE PUT IT IN WRITING, SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DENY OR AT THE LEAST TABLE THIS. SO MAYBE YOU CAN DISCUSS IT A LITTLE MORE.
AND LOOK, THERE IS A FUTURE AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT CORNER.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT CORNER WOULD BE HIGHLY MARKETABLE.
THEY WOULD SELL IT IF THEY COULDN'T BUILD A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE ON IT.
SO I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER IT AND DO SOMETHING BETTER.
AND SO I WISH YOU'D TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SUM THAT UP.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
THANK YOU, ROGER. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
LET'S CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:31.
I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MYSELF ON THE 7-ELEVEN [LAUGHTER] AT THE TIME THAT THE 7-ELEVEN REPRESENTATIVES CAME TO US OFFERING OUR WANTING TO PUT THAT BUSINESS IN ON THAT CORNER.
SO, OF COURSE, I ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE IN OUR LOCATION HERE AND WAS DENIED.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE STORY BEHIND THAT.
I JUST THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE WHAT DALLAS HAS.
THANK YOU, ROGER. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, COUNCIL.
COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, MOTIONS.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS FANCY SYSTEM HERE.
THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, ROGER.
IT'S MOVING TOWARDS ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE, YOU KNOW? AND SO, THEREFORE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CARS THAT ARE STILL USING GASOLINE, AND THEY DO NEED THE CONVENIENCE OF HAVING TO HAVE THAT FUEL TYPE PROVIDED FOR THEM.
IT HAS BEEN A GAS STATION IN THE PAST.
I GUESS MAYBE WE CAN HOPE THEY'LL ADDED WINE BAR.
I DON'T KNOW. BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE A REASON THAT WE SHOULD DENY THIS. I'D LOVE TO IN SOME ASPECTS TO SAY YES, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THERE, BISTRO OR WHATEVER.
BUT NOBODY'S COME FORWARD WANTING TO PLACE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO EVEN STILL AGREEING WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID, I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SUP.
WES. THANK YOU, MS. CULVER. YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE? I BELIEVE SO, YES. OKAY.
WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF ONE ACRE ON THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR? IT'S I MEAN, TYPICALLY IN THIS SITE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COFFEE SHOP, CONVENIENCE STORE, SOMETHING SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE TO SAY THAT'S THE BEST USE GIVEN THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATIONS OR ANYTHING, IT MAKES SENSE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A BRICK AND MORTAR OR FAST FOOD, CAN YOU PUT THAT ON AN ACRE? YES, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A SIT DOWN CASUAL RESTAURANT.
CAN YOU DO THAT ON AN ACRE? TYPICALLY NOT. OKAY.
CAN YOU PUT AN OFFICE BUILDING ON AN ACRE? YOU CAN. IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING WITH PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING.
BUT IT WOULD BE A SMALLER ONE.
OKAY. GOT IT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I DON'T KNOW. THE APPLICANT WAS PLANNING TO BE HERE.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. THANKS FOR COMING.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE A MOTION HERE TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY OR TABLE.
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WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER STEVES.
OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS, SIX ZERO.
SO THAT WAS ONLY A 200,000 VOTE SINCE WE'VE USED THIS THING TWICE.
THANK YOU, STAFF. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELP ON THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT, [INAUDIBLE].
[5. Consider an ordinance amending Chapter 82 – “Offenses and Miscellaneous Provisions,” Article III “Smoking,” Section 82-73 “Food Products Establishment” of the City of Bedford Code of Ordinances; providing that this ordinance shall be cumulative of all ordinances; providing a severability clause; providing a penalty clause; and providing an effective date.]
ITEM FIVE, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 82 OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT HERE TONIGHT.
SO THAT PROMPTED STAFF TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH INTO OUR REGULATIONS.
AND WE FOUND, WELL, I GUESS A DEEM IS A LOOPHOLE IN OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS.
IN 2014, THERE WAS A SMOKING WARRANTS THAT WAS PASSED.
AND IT'S CLEAR BY LOOKING AT THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT THE GOAL WAS TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS.
BUT THEY WE BUILT IN A 50% EXEMPTION FOR RESTAURANTS THAT GET 50% OR MORE OF THEIR SALES FROM ALCOHOL SALES. AND THE CAVEAT SAYS THAT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS YOU CAN BE A RESTAURANT IF YOU GET 75% OR MORE OF YOUR SALES FROM ALCOHOL SALES.
SO THERE'S KIND OF THAT'S THE LOOPHOLE THAT WE'VE KIND OF FOUND IN THERE IS THAT SOME RESTAURANTS ARE GETTING IN AND THEY CAN SMOKE OR THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ALLOW SMOKING, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT A RESTAURANT AT THAT POINT.
THEY'RE REALLY A BAR AT THAT POINT.
BUT THEY'RE MEETING THE DEFINITION OF A RESTAURANT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT AND WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.
BUT REAL QUICK, WHAT'S THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TONIGHT IS THAT WILL ALLOW THE ORDINANCE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ALLOW SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS ONLY IF 50% OR MORE OF ITS SALES COME FROM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND IT HAD A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY RECEIVED PRIOR TO TODAY, TODAY OR PRIOR, AND IT ALLOWED SMOKING PRIOR TO TODAY. SO IT REALLY GRANDFATHERED IN EVERYTHING THAT'S EXISTING TODAY THAT YOU CAN DO SMOKING AS LONG AS YOU MEET THOSE THREE CAVEATS.
IT ALSO IN DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THIS, WE FOUND THAT OTHER CITIES HAD A BIGGER DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE SMOKING ON THE PATIO IS ALLOWED IN RELATION TO THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE OF THE RESTAURANT. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT FROM TEN FEET TO 25 FEET.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND KIND OF WHAT WE RESEARCHED, WE LOOKED AT THE FOLLOWING CITIES AND SEE WHAT THEY DID AS FAR AS HOW THEY REGULATED SMOKING. THE ONE CAVEAT I WANT TO MAKE HERE, WELL, FIRST THEY TREAT IT.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. AND WE PUT THE DETAILS IN YOUR IN YOUR BACKUP.
BUT HURST OR EULESS DOES SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY CITY THEY DO.
THEY BASE IT OFF OF THEY ALLOW IT IN RESTAURANTS.
BUT IF YOU'RE IN A LINE, A SERVICE LINE OF SOME SORT, THEY DON'T ALLOW IT IN SERVICE LINES.
HURST WAS THEY ALLOWED IT WITHIN 20 FEET.
I'M SORRY, THEY PROHIBITED IT WITHIN 20 FEET OF ANY TYPE OF ENTRANCE AND THEN ALLOWED IT IN CERTAIN OTHER CAVEATS ALSO GAVE SOME EXEMPTIONS TO HOURS OF OPERATION AS WELL.
COLLEYVILLE JUST RUN DOWN.[INAUDIBLE] IT REAL QUICK.
THEY PROHIBITED IN RESTAURANTS THAT HAD A CAPACITY OR WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, ONE OF THOSE BEING IF THE CAPACITY WAS 25 OR LESS, THEN THEY WOULD ALLOW IT AGAIN.
THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD CHOOSE NOT TO AND THEN IF IT WAS A BAR, SO IF THEY HAD ALCOHOL SALES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIRS AS WELL, NORTH RICHLAND HILLS STRICTLY PROHIBITED IN FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND ALSO SAID YOU'VE GOT TO BE WITHIN 25 FEET OF THE ENTRANCE IF YOU'RE ALLOWED ON PATIOS.
ONE OR ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN YOUR BACK UP.
IT SAID THAT GRAPEVINE PROHIBITED FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AFTER DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH.
THE WAY GRAPEVINE IS WRITTEN IS A LITTLE QUIRKY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SOUTH LAKE COMPLETELY PROHIBITS IT AND KEEPS THE 20 FOOT DISTANCE FROM ANY ENTRANCE.
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AND THEN COPPELL, WHICH WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME THAT THIS CAME UP IN A DISCUSSION, COPPELL ALLOWS IT ONLY WITH CERTAIN BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS MADE.SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
WE ALSO SURVEYED EXISTING RESTAURANTS, AND WE DID THIS BY SEVERAL.
WE CALLED SOME WE LOOKED ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.
WE LOOKED ON THEIR GOOGLE REVIEWS.
WE DID ALL THAT KIND OF DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW.
ONLY FOUR RESTAURANTS ALLOWED INDOOR SMOKING AND THEN WE HAD ONE THAT ALLOWED IT ON PATIO ONLY.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS SECTION IS ONLY FOR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.
WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SECTION IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES SMOKING IN OTHER PUBLIC PLACES.
SO SMOKING IS NOT JUST ALLOWED ANYWHERE OTHER THAN FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.
IT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE] THIS SECTION ONLY TONIGHT.
THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCIL COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.
GET USED TO THE SYSTEM, I'M SURE.
CORRECT. UNDER THAT CEO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY OR ANY SITUATION WHERE THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WOULD THEN BE CHANGED OR THEY'D HAVE TO GET A NEW ONE? IT'S TIED TO THE BUSINESS AND LOCATION, CORRECT? [INAUDIBLE] TO THIS LOCATION.
HOWEVER, IF OWNERSHIP CHANGES, THAT TYPICALLY REQUIRES A NEW CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
OKAY. THOSE ARE REALLY THE BIG ITEMS OF OWNERSHIP.
OR IF THEY CHOOSE TO RELOCATE.
YEAH, RIGHT. NEW LOCATION, OBVIOUSLY.
YES. I WASN'T AWARE THAT CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP WOULD.
CHANGE OWNERSHIP WOULD TRIGGER A NEW [INAUDIBLE] OCCUPANCY.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO X, Y AND Z AND MAKE IT AS RESTRICTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS UP, I MENTIONED FACT.
BUT YOU DO SEE SOME TRENDS IN THERE.
TALKING ABOUT SOUTH LAKE, IT'S PROHIBITED 20 FEET OF ANY ENTRANCE OR EXIT.
NORTH RICHARD HILLS PROHIBITED IN ANY FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS UNLESS THE DESIGNATED OUTDOOR PUBLIC PATIO AREA, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE MEASURING, I'M ASSUMING, IS NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, RIGHT.
BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT 25-FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PATIO AND THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE.
SO FOR ME, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD MAKE IT AS RESTRICTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, PATRONS THAT COME AND VISIT.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF OUR BUSINESSES AND ALSO PUBLIC HEALTH.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS, THOUGH, IN THE FUTURE JUST TO BUCKLE DOWN EVEN EVEN MORE TO MAKE IT MAYBE PERHAPS EVEN A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE. IS THAT NEXT WEEK? NO, IS IT A YEAR FROM NOW? PROBABLY NOT. BUT I THINK SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, SEEING AS OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT, SOUTH LAKE, NORTH RICHLAND HILLS PERHAPS WE SHOULD EMULATE THAT.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M GOOD WITH THESE CHANGES.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF, SAY, BIGGS SELLS THE SMOKING DOES NOT GO WITH BIGGS? THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, DOESN'T GO WITH THE OWNERSHIP.
THIS IS THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN TODAY.
AND IF WHOEVER WAS IF THEY WERE TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO ANOTHER OWNER THAT WANTS TO HAVE SMOKING, HE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO GET IT.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE DRAFT IS WRITTEN.
AND WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? BECAUSE IT WAS JUST CONVOLUTED OR IS IT ALSO BECAUSE OF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SOMETHING OUT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT?
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I THINK IT COULD BE A COMBINATION.I DON'T THINK THE BY LOOKING AT PAST RECORDS, I DON'T THINK THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL THAT ADOPTED THE 2014 ORDINANCE, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THEIR INTENT TO I WASN'T HERE, BUT READING EVERYTHING, IT SEEMED LIKE THEIR GOAL WAS TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS.
AND I THINK THAT THEY THEY BUILT IN THE 50% RULE BASED ON A TABC RULE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S ALL OUR EDUCATED GUESS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T THERE.
BUT AND THEN THE THERE ARE SOME USES THAT ARE THAT ARE EYEING A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT WANT TO DO HOOKAH LOUNGES OR OTHER TYPES OF USES THAT WE MAY NOT WANT IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT WANT A HOOKAH LOUNGE IN A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
DOES THIS RESTRICT VAPING ALSO? THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT MEAN IT.
SMOKING VAPING IS CONSIDERED SMOKING.
SO IT DOES AFFECT THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING FOR P AND Z TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO KIND OF TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE DO HAVE A HOLE IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM.
BUT VAPING WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE SAME RESTAURANTS THAT OFFER SMOKING NOW.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE].
DID YOU CONTACT ALL THE RESTAURANTS? BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME THAT DON'T HAVE A WEBSITE AND ALLOW SMOKING.
WE DON'T KNOW. AND YOU'RE NOT ON THIS LIST? YEAH. IF WE COULD NOT FIND A WEBSITE OR A GOOGLE REVIEW OR A FACEBOOK PAGE THAT SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY ALLOWED SMOKING, WE CALLED.
YOU CALL THEM? YES. AND I THINK WE I THINK THAT NUMBER WAS THAT I THINK IT WAS A TOTAL OF 112 THAT WE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, GOING, YEAH, 112 IS KIND OF WHAT WE TOUCH BASE WITH SOME SORT OF WAY.
THANK YOU, MR. STEVES. SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS HERE.
WITH THE CHANGES, WE CAN GO STRICTER.
SO, COUNCIL, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE'S A SIDE OF ME INTERESTED IN GETTING STRICTER.
RIGHT NOW. WELL, I'M THE OPPOSITE.
AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, THIS WAS DONE BACK IN 2014.
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE OPENED HAD THEY KNOWN THAT WE WERE GOING TO CLAMP DOWN ON THEM.
AND THEY I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW THEY DON'T CARE IF A NON-SMOKER WALKS IN OR NOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS PLAN.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT, JUST DON'T COME IN.
I KIND OF THINK WE JUST LEAVE, OKAY.
WITH, I THINK INCREASING THE DISTANCE TO 10 TO 20.
SEE, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE HYSTERICAL BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ENFORCE THEM.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A POLICE OFFICER STANDING OUTSIDE.
BUT I SUPPOSE IT'S A GOOD RECORD.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S A BUILDING INSPECTION ISSUE.
YEAH. IF WE HAD A COMPLAINT, LET'S SAY, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE PRIMARILY COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
AND IF SOMEBODY COMPLAINS THAT PEOPLE ARE SMOKING TOO CLOSE TO THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE, WE'D GO OUT AND WE'D ESSENTIALLY MEASURE THE PATIO DISTANCE AND AND IF WE OBSERVE SMOKING, THEN WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO DOES THIS ORDINANCE ONLY DEAL WITH RESTAURANTS? THAT'S IT. YES, MA'AM.
NO OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS? I KNOW THIS ONE. THIS IS UNDER THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT SECTION, SO.
YES, MA'AM. AND SO HOW MANY DIFFERENT SMOKING ORDINANCES DO WE HAVE? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED SO AND FORGIVE ME, WE HAVE SO WE HAVE UNDER CHAPTER 82 AND THIS IS MORE DETAIL [INAUDIBLE], BUT UNDER CHAPTER 82, THERE'S ARTICLE THREE THAT SAYS SMOKING.
AND SO YOU HAVE, WHAT, A HANDFUL OF SECTIONS IN THERE.
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AND THEN WE'VE GOT YEAH, THEN IT GOES INTO POSSESSION OF TOBACCO BY MINORS.SO I MEAN IT'S ALL COMBINED IN ONE ARTICLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN. I'M SORRY.
MY QUESTION IS FOR [INAUDIBLE], THOUGH, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD FUTURE DATE IT? IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN THAT PATH TO MAKE IT STRICTER SO THAT IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE.
YES. YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISH A FUTURE COMPLIANCE DATE.
IS THERE A LIMIT ON THAT TIME? LIKE, THERE REALLY ISN'T.
ON HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANT TO AFFORD THE BUSINESSES TO REACH COMPLIANCE.
OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THAT ADOPTING AN IMMEDIATE BAN TONIGHT AND HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT GO OUT TOMORROW AND SHUT RESTAURANTS DOWN IS PROBABLY NOT PRACTICAL. EXACTLY ADVISABLE.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING THAT IF OTHERS ARE.
YEAH, SURE. YEAH. I BROUGHT THAT ISSUE UP TO.
SO WHAT THINK STAFF ASK FOR TONIGHT TOO IS THAT WE'RE SETTING A HARD DATE WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THERE'S NO NEW, NEW RESTAURANTS COMING IN WHO CAN.
RIGHT. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SMOKING? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'RE CAPPING IT ESSENTIALLY.
YES. IF WE APPROVE AS WRITTEN.
YES, SIR. SO THAT'S THAT'S PROGRESS.
I GUESS I WOULD NEED TO BE EDUCATED.
WHY WOULD WE PASS AN ORDINANCE TONIGHT AND THEN? SORRY. WHY WOULD WE PASS AN ORDINANCE TONIGHT AND THEN PRE-DATE IT? THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION.
I MEAN, EDUCATE ME. I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT ARE YOU SUGGEST? I'M SPECULATING TO GIVE THEM TIME TO ADJUST.
FOR FOR THE BUSINESS, FOR THE EXISTING EXISTING DISTANCE.
BUT THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE US OPEN TO NEW RESTAURANTS COMING IN.
PLUS AN EXTENSION FOR EXISTING.
EXISTING. WELL, THAT'S OUR CALL.
OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR. [INAUDIBLE].
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT I LOST MY ANDI THINK COUNCILMAN COGAN.
I LOST MY FATHER TO LUNG CANCER MY FIRST YEAR PHARMACY SCHOOL.
I AM AN ANTI-SMOKER, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IT'S ALMOST STRANGE THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
I DON'T. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SIDE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY THE FIVE THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, IF I DON'T WANT TO SMELL SMOKE, I DON'T GO TO THAT BUSINESS.
BUT THEY STILL HAVE AS MANY CUSTOMERS THAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE AND MAKE THEIR LIVING.
BUT THERE ARE PLACES THAT I GO BECAUSE OF WHATEVER THE ENVIRONMENT, WHATEVER THAT ENVIRONMENT IS.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, YOU DON'T GO TO CHUCK E.
CHEESE. IF YOU DO, YOU GO TO CHUCK E.
YES. SO [INAUDIBLE] TO HAVE YOUNG KIDS GO TO CHUCK E.
CHEESE, IF YOU'RE OLDER, YOU LIKE GAMES, YOU GO TO DAVE BUSTER'S, RIGHT.
AND DAVE AND BUSTER'S HAS, YOU KNOW, ALL DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO ON THE MARKETPLACE, THAT'S WHAT.
IT IS. AND THAT'S SORT OF [INAUDIBLE].
JUST FOR OUR BENEFIT, THEN IF WE APPROVE AS WRITTEN, WHAT ARE THE CHANGES? CAN YOU SPECIFY AGAIN? OH, THEY TOOK MY SCREEN. JUST A SECOND.
LET ME GO BACK TO THAT. SO YOU ARE CHANGING.
THANK YOU. SO YOU ARE CHANGING YOUR ALLOWING SMOKE RIGHT NOW.
SMOKING IS PROHIBITED IN RESTAURANTS THAT SELL 50% ALCOHOL.
PERIOD. YOU'RE CHANGING IT TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THE SAME EXEMPTION OF THE 50% ALCOHOL SALES.
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AND THEN YOU'RE CHANGING THE TEN FEET TO 25 FEET DISTANCE FROM PATIO TO [INAUDIBLE].SO THERE IS SOME GETTING STRICTER WITH THIS ORDINANCE BY THESE CHANGES.
YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVES.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMAN GAGLIARDI, I THINK.
I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO GO.
I BROUGHT IT UP ONLY JUST TO ENTERTAINED TO SEE WHAT EVERYONE'S APPETITE WAS FOR IT.
I THINK GETTING STRICTER IS IS THE RIGHT, RIGHT MOVE HERE.
AND I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE GOING AHEAD AND MOVING FORWARD AND DOING THAT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
AND I STILL LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE WE COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS.
BUT FOR AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THE THUMBS UP FOR ME.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. SO ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION? WE FIRST ONE.
OKAY. WE OH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.
CORRECT. AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER.
LET'S VOTE. EVERYONE'S JUMPING TO THE SCREEN.
HOW COULD I [INAUDIBLE]? OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
STAFF THANK YOU. COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION.
[6. Consider approval of Old Town Development, LLC, as the named master developer for the Bedford Commons Mixed-Use Project (area generally located between Bedford Road, L. Don Dodson Drive, EM Bilger Jr. Boulevard, and Parkwood Drive), and authorizing the City Manager to proceed with negotiation of a Memorandum of Understanding with same.]
PROJECT. THIS IS THE AREA GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN BEDFORD ROAD, ELDON DODSON, E.M.SO WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ANDREW ROY.
GOOD EVENING. SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO [INAUDIBLE] ANSWER.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR FINDINGS AS A RESULT OF OUR REQUEST THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, WE DID A REQUEST FOR EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST, WHICH IN [INAUDIBLE] TERMS AND THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH, IS MORE LIKE AN RFP OR AN RFQ.
SO SIMILAR TO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS OR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
SO WE DID THIS WITH THE INTENT TO SEEK OUT A MASTER DEVELOPER TO WHOM WE THEN CAN CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP AND MOVE FORWARD ON A MORE CONTRACTUAL BASIS AS WE WORK TOWARDS SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THAT GROUP TO DEVELOP THE BEDFORD COMMONS MIXED USE PROJECT.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE DID GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THE RFEI.
AND ESSENTIALLY WE DID GENERALLY WHILE NOT REQUIRED TO, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID CAPTURE AND REACH OUT TO EVERYONE THAT DID HAVE AN INTEREST AND WAS QUALIFIED TO RESPOND.
SO WE DID ADVERTISE THIS IN THESE STAR-TELEGRAM, TWO SUNDAYS IN A ROW.
IT WAS POSTED ON VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS OF OURS.
WE ALSO DID DIRECTLY NOTIFY 14 DEVELOPERS THAT WE EITHER AND SAY THAT WE, I REALLY MEAN ME HAD PERSONALLY THOUGHT WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, KNOWING WHAT THEY HAD DONE IN OTHER AREAS AND THEN ALSO INCORPORATED FOLKS THAT HAD SHOWN AN INTEREST IN THE PROJECT SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE WITH THE WITH THE CITY. SO DEADLINE WAS APRIL 8TH.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM BROADSWORD.
INVESTORS WHO HAD PARTNERED WITH PATHWAY MULTIFAMILY LLC ALSO RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM RUSSELL GLENN, WHO PARTNERED WITH PAGE ARCHITECTS TO SUBMIT A RESPONSE AND ALSO RECEIVED A SUBMITTAL FROM OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT WHO HAD PARTNERED WITH GFF ARCHITECTS.
AND SO AS A RESULT OF LOOKING THROUGH THOSE AND AGAIN, IN ORDER TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM WITH A NEUTRAL EYE, WE DID APPLY SOME STANDARDS, A SCORING SYSTEM, AND REALLY LOOKED AT FOUR PRIMARY AREAS, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE, THEIR VISION AND DEVELOPMENT APPROACH, THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAPACITY AND THEIR REPUTATION.
SO I THINK IN YOUR PACKET I DID ATTACH MY FULL EVALUATION.
I PROVIDED MY COMMENTS AND NOTES JUST SO YOU ALL COULD KIND OF SEE WHERE I WENT, WHY I SCORED THEM CERTAIN WAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST IN AN EFFORT FOR YOU ALL TO SEE KIND OF WHERE THE THINKING WAS AND WHERE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME DEFICIENCIES AND SOME SURPLUSES BASED ON THOSE CATEGORIES.
SO AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL THAT, ESSENTIALLY WE CAME DOWN TO OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT BEING THE RECOMMENDED MASTER DEVELOPER BASED ON THEIR SUBMITTAL, THEIR PROPOSAL, THE EXPERIENCE OF THE TEAM, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY, THE UNIQUE CAPACITY OF THEM TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BOUTIQUE AS THEY INDICATED APPROACH TO THIS.
IT'S NOT JUST A 1200 ACRE MASTER DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF A THING.
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THIS IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT.SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WORKING WITH OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL A BRIEF SUMMARY AND FOR ANYBODY THAT ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE BEDFORD COMMON SITE, ESSENTIALLY IN THE RFEI, WE DID INDICATE THAT WHAT WE ENVISIONED AS A CORE AREA, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN REALLY GET STARTED AT RIGHT AWAY.
SO A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND REALLY GET GOING ON THAT INITIAL 21 ACRES RIGHT AWAY.
WE'RE SITTING ON ANY OTHER CITY FACILITIES.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, A BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS SOMEBODY THAT WOULD COME IN AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF EVALUATING WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE ON THIS SITE AND WHAT WAS OF INTEREST.
WE DIDN'T NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND REINVENT THE ENTIRE THING.
WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND UNDERSTAND AND REALLY BUILD OFF OF THIS.
AND AGAIN, ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED WITH OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT.
SO HERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, SOME SAMPLINGS OF THEIR PROJECTS.
AGAIN, GFF ARCHITECTS, LEADER IN THE DFW AREA, PROBABLY NATIONALLY AS WELL, VERY WELL KNOWN ARCHITECTURE FIRM THAT WILL LEND THEIR SERVICES HERE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF THE MODIFIED AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL CONCEPTUAL.
SO WHERE THINGS WILL LAND, I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL TREES OVER THERE.
WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO LOSE SOME.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS OLD TOWN'S CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE SITE.
AS FAR AS OUR RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU ALL APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FORMALLY NAMING OLD TOWN AS THE MASTER DEVELOPER AND WE WILL THEN GO AHEAD AND HAMMER OUT A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY AND OLD TOWN DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU, HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT MEETING AND YOU CAN APPROVE THAT, WHICH WILL REALLY OUTLINE KIND OF THE TERMS OF OUR INITIAL ARRANGEMENT.
IT WILL BE LATER THAT WE WOULD THEN BRING FORWARD FORMAL INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUSTIN WITH OLD TOWN IS HERE IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS AND I'M AVAILABLE, SO VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU, ANDREA. MAYOR PRO TEM SABLE DID YOU.
I NOTICED ONE OF THE HOT TOPICS, AND SOME OF THEM, THEY WOULD MENTION MULTIFAMILY.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS A HOT TOPIC AROUND HERE.
AND WHAT I HAD BEEN READING ABOUT LATELY IS THAT THEY'RE TENDING TO COME IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THEN INVESTORS ARE COMING IN AND TURNING THEM INTO RENTALS.
AND IS THERE ANY WAY THAT ANY OF THOSE COMPANIES COULD GIVE US [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT? SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO US, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAD IN MIND.
ARE YOU SAYING WITH THE OTHER SUBMISSIONS THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED? DID ANY OF THEM MENTIONED THAT AS A POSSIBILITY? BECAUSE I COULD JUST SEE US GETTING SUCKED INTO THAT THINKING WE'RE GOING TO GET PRIVATE HOMES AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN AN INVESTOR COMES IN AND PURCHASES ALL THE BUILDINGS AND THEN IT BECOMES A RENTAL COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE GROUPS DOES SPECIALIZE IN THESE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL COMMUNITIES AND SO THAT IS KIND OF THEIR MODEL, NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO MODIFY THAT FOR US, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S THEIR STRONG SUIT TO THE TO THE DEGREE THAT BOTH OF THEM INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A DENSER ENVIRONMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO ON AFFORDABLE RENTAL ENVIRONMENTS, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE PLAN, DOES NOT QUITE ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
BUT I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF THESE GROUPS DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
BUT WHEN I'M TALKING TO A MULTIFAMILY BUILDER, I DON'T SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
IS THAT NOT SUCH A BIG ISSUE NOW BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY?
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OR DO WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND SAY, LOOK, THIS NEEDS TO MATCH ACROSS THE CITY OR EVEN BEFORE THE DEVELOPER COMES IN? I THINK WE'VE GOT CONTROL BY OWNING IT.I MEAN, THAT REALLY GIVES US THE ULTIMATE CONTROL.
AND AGAIN, THE WAY THAT WE'VE WORDED THIS, EVEN AS TONIGHT, LOOK, IF THINGS EVEN THE MEMO THAT I'VE DRAFTED, IF WE WANT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND IT'S NOT LINING UP OR WE'RE DONE, BUT OWNING IT GIVES YOU THE ULTIMATE CONTROL.
AND ALSO THAT TIRZ CONCEPT PLAN.
WE SOLD THIS PROJECT TO THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES BASED ON THAT PLAN.
AND SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE WE CAN'T SCRAP THAT AND START OVER.
SO WE'RE THAT GIVES US A REALLY GOOD FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE TO PRETTY STICK WE'VE GOT TO STICK TO.
THAT WAS GFF THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE USED WITH DAVID PETTIT.
I REMEMBER HE COULD HAND DRAW VERY WELL.
OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS HERE.
COUNCIL IN THE CITY MAINTAINS CONTROL OF THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD.
AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE FOR APARTMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE FOR SOMEONE TO COME.
TELL US, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT.
JUSTIN'S HERE. DOES JUSTIN WANT TO COME UP TO THE MIC? WELCOME TO THE MINE.
I'M SURE HE WANTS TO COME SAY.
JUSTIN, WHAT IS IT THAT OLD TOWN DOES WELL? I THINK OUR CORE COMPETENCY IS REALLY CREATING UNIQUE EXPERIENCES, AND THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS TENDED TO DO THAT IS BY PARTNERING WITH REALLY HYPER LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SORT OF DINING ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE DESTINATION AND EXPERIENTIAL ORIENTED TO NOT CREATE A LOCATION, BUT TO CREATE A DESTINATION.
AND WHAT I SEE US DOING HERE WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, BUT WE JUST KIND OF DID IT BY BRAILLE AS WE WENT ALONG BECAUSE WE NEEDED IF YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WORKS TOGETHER, YOU NEED CONNECTIVITY, YOU NEED WALKABILITY, AND YOU REALLY WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE I HAVE IS THAT MY PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH MR. COCHRAN'S PLAN REVIEW, AND I'VE GOT ALL HIS NOTES.
YOU KNOW, IF I YOU SAY THAT NOW, BUT IT'S STILL EARLY.
[LAUGHTER] BUT SO THIS IS 30 ACRES.
IS IT BIG ENOUGH TO GET SOMETHING UNIQUE AND SPECIAL? 30 ACRES IS BIGGER THAN DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.
IS THERE ANY REASON FOR US TO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE WITH THIS PROPERTY? NOBODY'S GOING TO TELL ME WE CAN'T.
OKAY. SO HAVE YOU EVER FORCED A COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO? I'VE NEVER FORCED A COUNCIL TO DO ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, THE INTRIGUE THAT I HAVE AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO JUST VOICE MY THOUGHTS HERE IS I THINK THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU HAVE, THE ABILITY TO DO UNIQUE BOUTIQUE TYPE THINGS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.
WE CLEARLY WANT SOMETHING WOW WE WANT SOMETHING SPECIAL.
WE WANT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST AROUND HERE.
BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO. AND COCHRAN'S CRITIQUING YOU RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.
WE VERY MUCH, ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? MAKE A MOTION.
YEAH, I JUST. JUST FOR MY 2 CENTS.
AND THIS IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.
I STARTED GETTING INVOLVED BACK IN THE APARTMENT DAYS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AWESOME PROJECT.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS ONE OF MANY NEW PROJECTS IN BEDFORD.
I'M EXCITED. THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
JIMMY I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING.
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THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL, SPECIAL PROJECT.AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING NOW THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED, NOWHERE COMES CLOSE TO WHAT THEY'RE REALLY WANTING.
AND SO THEN WE TURNED AROUND AND HAD A DEVELOPER COME AND THEY REALLY COULDN'T MATCH WHAT WE DID.
SO WE KIND OF PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, YOU KNOW.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND REVAMP ALL OF THAT AND MAKE IT TO WHERE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU CAN BRING TO US, WE CAN BRING TO LIGHT. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU KNOW THAT.
AND SOME ORDINANCES WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED, AS COUNCILMAN COGAN HAS MENTIONED.
BUT I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU REALLY LISTEN.
I MEAN WORDS COME OUT, BUT PEOPLE SOMETIMES JUST REALLY DON'T HEAR.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A LARGE COMPLEX OF TOWNHOMES, ESPECIALLY FACE FRONTING WITH GARAGES.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE SHOW GARAGES ON THE FRONT.
WE LIKE DRIVEWAYS IN THE BACK.
YOU NEED INGRESS AND EGRESS, AS MR. COCHRAN MENTIONED AND YOU DO NEED THAT SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT WOW.
AND JIMMY'S CONVINCED ME THAT YOU'RE IT.
I MEAN, HE HAS. SO WITH THAT, MY BLESSINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE TOOK THAT.
WE BASICALLY LOOKED AT WHAT YOU GUYS HAD LAID OUT IN BEDFORD COMMONS, AND WE DESIGNED WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD WANT TO DO BASED ON THOSE CRITERIA.
SO OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU HAVE 20 TO 30 ACRES, I MEAN, YOU NEED RESIDENTIAL THEY'RE JUST FOR ECONOMICS.
BUT WE WEREN'T GOING FOR, YOU KNOW, LARGE SCALE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
AND WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANY OF THAT.
WE'RE MARRIED TO DELIVERING A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
SO THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD CAN GO SOMEPLACE AND WHERE THERE'S A CIVIC GYM WHERE THEY CAN CONNECT AND GET A SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE THE CITY LIMITS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THE EI DOESN'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC DRAWINGS, SITE PLANS AND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE. BUT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE COMMUNITY SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THIS.
THE ENTIRE BEDFORD IS UNIQUE, BUT ALONG WITH THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT UPON THAT COMMUNITY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL REACH OUT TO THEM.
THOSE IN THAT COMMUNITY WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM.
MR. COCHRAN IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
OKAY. AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IDEAS COME FORTH, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED, THAT THEY'RE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TO HELP MAKE THIS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE.
ABSOLUTELY. WELL, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE FEELING OF THIS COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION, IS THAT WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND REACHING OUT AND HAVING TOWN HALLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
YOU KNOW, INSERT TOPIC GOING FORWARD.
NOT JUST THIS BUT OTHER THINGS.
WERE YOU MAKING A COMMENT OR YOU MAKING A COMMENT? COMMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS TO SUMMARIZE COUNCILWOMAN CULVER.
[LAUGHTER] FOR ME, I'M EXCITED.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING.
AND SO THIS IS EXTREMELY EXCITING.
AND SO I'M PUTTING MY FAITH IN HIM.
BUT FOR ME, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS I NEED TO KNOW, ARE YOU MARRIED TO THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN THAT MASTER PLAN? I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE FUTURE IS THERE.
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GIVEN THE PANDEMIC, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE SEEN, I DON'T THINK OFFICE BUILDINGS IS WHAT WE PERSONALLY NEED HERE.NOW, WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS LATER, BUT THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
YEAH. BUT IT WILL ALSO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.
IT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN HIGHLY OFF OF THE DEMAND FOR THE PROJECT TOO.
SO I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR DELIVERING A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD.
THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR. THANK YOU. THANKS.
THANK YOU, MR. COGAN. MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.
[LAUGHTER] SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION? I WILL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE.
CORRECT? WE HAVE A SECOND FOR MAYOR PRO TEM SABOL.
LET'S VOTE. ROB WAS SETTING THAT UP THE WHOLE TIME.
HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. HE'S SNEAKY.
OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO.
WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU STAFF THANK YOU COUNCIL.
AND THE WORDS OF COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN, DON'T SCREW IT UP, JUSTIN.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO QUICKLY CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION.
YEP. IS THAT FAIR? OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[7. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to accept the technical and sealed dollar cost proposals from Weaver and Tidwell, LLP (Weaver, LLP) for independent auditing services for the City of Bedford, Texas.]
PROPOSALS FROM WEAVER AND TIDWELL LLP FOR INDEPENDENT AUDITING SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TEXAS.AND WE GIVE YOU FINANCE DIRECTOR MARIA JOYNER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR PROPOSAL FOR INDEPENDENT AUDIT SERVICES.
AS OF THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2021, OUR CONTRACT FOR INDEPENDENT AUDIT SERVICES EXPIRES. SO WE WERE REQUIRED TO SOLICIT FIRMS TO LOOK FOR FIRMS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE ACTUALLY ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, AN RFP.
THAT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS ACTUALLY ADVERTISED FEBRUARY THE 13TH IN THE FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM.
LIKE I'LL SAY ALL 6 FIRMS ARE VERY GOOD FIRMS. STAFF GOT TOGETHER OUR CFO, CARYN RIGGS, OUR ACCOUNTING MANAGER, KIM ROBINSON, OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS, WHICH IS STEFANIE SPIVEY AND MYSELF.
AFTER OUR REVIEW OF THOSE PROPOSALS, WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED THOSE PROPOSALS TO OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE.
AND AFTER PRESENTING OUR REQUEST, OUR DECISIONS TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ACCEPTING THE TOP PROPOSAL.
WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS WE REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS WAS ACTUALLY THEIR TECHNICAL QUALIFICATIONS OF EACH OF THE FIRMS. WE WANTED TO DETERMINE IF THE FIRMS THAT HAD PRIOR EXPERIENCE OR HOW MUCH PRIOR EXPERIENCE THEY HAD ACTUALLY HAD WITH CITIES.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH FIRM MET THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS OF THE RFP THAT WE ISSUED.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE AUDIT TEAM WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CITY.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE APPROACH THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE AUDIT FIRM.
THE SIX FIRMS THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED BIDS FROM WAS WEAVER AND TIDWELL, PATILLO BROWN AND HILL, MCCONNELL JONES, BKD, EIDE BAILLY, AND WHITLEY PENN.
AGAIN AFTER WE PRESENTED THE PROPOSALS TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE RECOMMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE THAT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH WEAVER AND TIDWELL AND BASED ON THE PRICING THAT [INAUDIBLE] WILL PROVIDE IT AT 289,000 FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ACCEPT THAT PROPOSAL.
AND THEY DID. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING OUR PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL TONIGHT TO SAY THAT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH WEAVER AND TIDWELL AND BASED ON THEM MEETING ALL THE CRITERIA THAT WE PRESENTED IN THE PROPOSAL, THEY PROVIDED THE BEST PRICING AND THE BEST SERVICE OVERALL TO THE CITY.
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AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND REGARDING WEAVER AND TIDWELL, WEAVER IS A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TEXAS BASED FIRM WITH APPROXIMATELY 600 PROFESSIONALS WITH OFFICES IN FORT WORTH, DALLAS, HOUSTON, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, CONROE AND MIDLAND.THEIR AUDIT CLIENTS CONSISTS OF 35 TEXAS CITIES, OF WHICH 12 ARE OF COMPARABLE SIZE TO BEDFORD.
THEREFORE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ACCEPTANCE OF WEAVER AND TIDWELL'S PROPOSAL FOR AUDIT SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEARS SEPTEMBER 30, 2022, 2023 AND 2024 WITH TWO ONE YEAR OPTIONS FOR RENEWAL.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
OKAY VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MARIA. SO WHY THREE PLUS ONE AND ONE? WE HAVE A POLICY WHEREAS WE TRY TO TAKE THESE CONTRACTS OUT FOR FIVE YEARS.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE WEAVER WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE AGREEMENT.
THEY DID. THEY ACTUALLY OFFERED ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
GASB 87 GUIDELINES THEY OFFERED IN THEIR PROPOSAL.
AND A LOT OF THE FIRMS DID THE SAME.
THEY OFFERED TO ASSIST US WITH THAT.
SO WE PAID ATTENTION TO THOSE EXTRA SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING TO THE CITY.
IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIRED INDEPENDENT AUDIT SERVICES.
PARDON ME. DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE THE LOWEST THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VALUE TO.
YES, SIR, THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VALUE.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IN 355 HOURS.
OKAY COUNCIL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON MY SCREEN, MR. GAGLIARDI. OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.
[INAUDIBLE] THAT'S UNANIMOUS AGAIN.
THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU STAFF.
[8. Consider a resolution approving an amendment to the interlocal agreement with Tarrant County, Texas for road resurfacing services, which amends the original agreement by replacing Forest Ridge Drive with Northridge Drive; authorizing the City Manager of the City of Bedford, Texas, to sign such amendment; and providing an effective date.]
SERVICES, WHICH AMENDS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BY REPLACING FOREST RIDGE DRIVE WITH NORTHRIDGE DRIVE.AND WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CHERYL TAYLOR.
SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETED IN TIME TO HAVE THE COUNTY PAVE IN MAY.
IT IS ON THE WEST END OF HARWOOD ROAD, AND WE'VE JUST RECENTLY DONE SOME UTILITY WORK OVER THERE.
SO THAT WILL BE LATER ON THIS SUMMER.
SO WE'RE SAYING THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THIS DECISION.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU STAFF. THANK YOU COUNCIL.
[9. Consider a resolution of the City of Bedford, Texas approving the American Rescue Plan Act Appropriation Plan; and recognizing and appropriating expenditures within the Fiscal Year 2022 Coronavirus Local Fiscal Recovery Fund Budget.]
ITEM NINE. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD, TEXAS, APPROVING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT APPROPRIATION PLAN AND RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING EXPENDITURES WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2022.CORONAVIRUS LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUND BUDGET.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I'M EXCITED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BEFORE.
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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED.AND WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THIS NEXT MONTH WE'RE GOING TO BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD THAT WILL BASICALLY ALLOW US TO DESIGNATE THE REST OF OUR FUNDS SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AS REPLACEMENT FUNDS.
AND SO THROUGH THE US TREASURY AND SO PER COUNCIL DIRECTION, WE WANT TO FIND WAYS TO REINVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY FOR FENCES THAT ARE ON ARTERIAL ROADS EXCUSE ME, SHOPPING CENTERS THAT NEED SOME LOVE AND ATTENTION.
WE ARE JUST WANTING TO DO THINGS THAT ADD VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND ADD VALUE TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO STAY TUNED FOR MORE TO COME.
I MEAN, THE POLICE STATION TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS.
YOU'VE JUST DONE SO MUCH, MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR THIS TRANCHE ARE, I'LL READ THEM.
FURNITURE FOR, THIS IS ALL FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT.
FURNITURE FOR THE RECORDS PROPERTY AT CID.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE BUILDING IS VERY ANTIQUATED.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT OF UPDATES AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
CRIME SCENE ROOM UPDATE AREA UPDATE $33,500.
DOOR CONTROL SECURITY IMPROVEMENT $11,000.
EXPANDABLE WALL REPLACEMENT $19,420.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, I AM AN AGGIE, BUT I THINK THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] DON'T SAY ANYTHING MR. BRESNAHAN. SO, $13,980, AN ICEMAKER WITH WATER, [INAUDIBLE] $760.
PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICER UNIT RESTRUCTURE $53,190.
TELE STAFF SCHEDULING SOFTWARE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, $43,920.
AND IT'S THROUGH GTS AND IT'S FOR $128,728, AND THE TOTAL IS $373,648.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
I FEEL LIKE YOU DIDN'T TAKE A BREATH.
I KNOW. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OEC RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON DOWN THERE.
ABSOLUTELY. IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL DEFER TO THE CHIEF BECAUSE HE'S LIVING AND BREATHING EACH DAY.
I KNOW THAT THEY WERE VERY HAPPY THANKS TO.
THEY'RE LIVING IN A BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO ALL THE OFFICES ON THE ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE AND THE WORKSPACES ARE ESSENTIALLY GETTING A FACELIFT THAT LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT EVERY TIME IT RAINED, WE PUT OUT HOME DEPOT BUCKETS, THE ROOF IS DONE.
NO WATER CAME THROUGH THE ROOF.
THE FIRST WE'VE KIND OF BROKEN INTO THREE PHASES.
OUR PATROL SECTION IS ALMOST DONE.
THEY SHOULD BE MOVING IN NEXT WEEK.
AND THAT WE HAD OLD FURNITURE WALKING AROUND WITH GUN BELTS AND WORKING IN THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THOSE THE DESK GET CHIPPED AND THEY WERE FALLING APART.
CHAIRS WERE WELL, WELL PAST, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 15 YEARS PAST THEIR USABILITY.
SO ALL THAT'S BEEN BEING REDONE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH.
LOOK AT IT, FUNCTIONALITY, CRIME SCENE, TRYING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE SPACE.
THEY HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT THAN THEY USED TO THE PROPERTY AND RECORD SECTION.
YOU START GETTING THERE, MOVING THINGS AROUND THE FLOOR AND JUST FALLING APART.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OLD COMMERCIAL VINYL TILE.
THIS IS NOW SO BRITTLE IT WAS JUST CHIPPING UP AND FALLING APART.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS GET DOWN THERE.
WE HAVE ONE WATER FOUNTAIN IN THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING IN A ESSENTIALLY AS AN ICE MACHINE THAT WE CAN FILL EVERYBODY IN.
THAT BUILDING'S CUT UP TWO OR THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND GIVE THEM FRESH WATER.
SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DISPOSE OF SO MANY WATER BOTTLES.
THOSE ARE TWO CIVILIAN KIND OF INVESTIGATORS OFF IN THE STATION.
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VISIBLE. THEY'RE KIND OF HELPING US DETER CRIME.AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS OUR TELE STAFF SOFTWARE.
WE'RE OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK ON A 24 HOUR BASIS.
IT'S HARD FOR US TO PREDICT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE WORKING AT WHAT TIME.
AND THIS SOFTWARE, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE I'M GOING TO HAVE WORKING ON JULY 4TH.
IF I NEED TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH OFFICER SO-AND-SO HAS WORKED THIS LAST YEAR, HOW MUCH THEY WERE ON SICK, HOW MUCH THEY TOOK VACATION, I CAN DO THAT AT A SNAP SO WE CAN HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY ON US.
SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO PENNINGTON FIELD STUDENTS.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I MEAN, YOU'RE LIVING IN A WAR ZONE IN THAT BUILDING, SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE DONE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.
AND THE GOAL IS, IS TO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE AND LET THE CITIZENS AND EVERYONE COME IN AND KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT A TAJ MAHAL, BUT IT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
THANK YOU, CHIEF. SO, JIMMY, THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED $5 MILLION OF THE ARPA FUNDS.
OKAY, AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AGAIN THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND IT? IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SOME BECAUSE WE GOT OUR NEXT TRANCHE IS COMING IN AUGUST.
SO SOME IS AT THE END OF 24 AND SOME IS ACTUALLY IN 25.
BUT BY DESIGNATING IT AS REPLACEMENT REVENUE, THEN.
GOOD COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.
WHO'S LOVING THIS NEW SYSTEM? LET'S VOTE. OKAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL, THANK YOU STAFF.
THANK YOU, JIMMY. MOVING ON TO ITEM TEN, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION
[10. Consider a resolution appointing members to Bedford’s Citizen Boards and Commissions.]
APPOINTING MEMBERS TO BEDFORD CITIZENS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.WE HAVE CITY SECRETARY MICHAEL WELLS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ROGER GOWENSTEIN IN PLACE TWO FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.
PLACE THREE, TOM JACOBSON, UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH 2023.
TODD CARLSON, PLACE FOUR, UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.
KATE BARLOW, PLACE EIGHT, ALTERNATE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH 2023.
AND THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH ALSO SERVES ON THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.
AND TOM BRESNAHAN PLACE FIVE, UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2023.
SO JUST REAL QUICK, I WANT TO SAY WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE LAST WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF, THAT WE WERE BLESSED THAT WE HAD QUITE A NUMBER OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES COMING FORWARD.
I JUST FEEL EXCITED THAT WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE WILLING TO COME FORWARD.
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I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROCESS.THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR SELFLESSNESS, WANTING TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY.
THIS IS A RESULT OF WHAT COUNCIL WAS CONSIDERING THAT NIGHT.
COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM SABLE.
YOU'RE GREEN. I KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY BAD.
I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM THAT RUTH WAS HAVING WITH THE PUSHING THE BUTTON.
I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO AND I, P&Z WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF ABSENTEEISM AND WE'VE JUST GOT A FANTASTIC GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK THROUGH THESE HUGE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT COMING FORWARD.
AND THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE ENGINEERING ABILITIES ARCHITECTS, URBAN PLANNERS.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE GOT A GOOD VISION FOR WHAT OUR CITY IS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY THIS EVENING, SIR.
I'M SORRY YOU'RE TURNING MY LIGHT ON BY ACCIDENT.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? DESIRE. OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER, A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER.
GAGLIARDI. SO THIS IS APPROVED AS DETAILED HERE.
LET'S PUT. SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU STAFF AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO IS A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE GOING FORWARD HERE.
[11. Discussion and receive Council direction regarding changes to the City’s Boards and Commissions.]
SO ITEM TEN IS THE JUDICIAL BOARD'S PART OF THIS CONVERSATION? OUR ITEM 11 IS THE ADVISORY BOARD AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.AND ONCE AGAIN, CITY SECRETARY MICHAEL WELLS.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE DID PUT THE QUASI JUDICIAL BOARDS TO BED FOR NOW.
SO WE'RE KIND OF FOCUSED MORE ON THE COMMUNITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE COUNCIL THAT MET AND PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS EARLIER THIS YEAR HAD SOME PROPOSALS FOR CHANGES.
AND SO WHAT WE HAD ATTACHED IN THE PACKET WAS A RED LINE OF SOME OF THE CHANGES, WHICH INCLUDES LIMITING THE TERM OF THE CHAIRPERSONS TO TWO TWO YEAR TERMS, ALTHOUGH WE NEED CLARIFICATION.CLARIFY WHETHER IT'S AN ACCUMULATIVE THAT THEY CAN ONLY SERVE FOR BASICALLY FOUR YEARS, OR IS IT TWO CONSECUTIVE TWO YEAR TERMS? OTHER CHANGES ARE THE SELECTION OF THE SECRETARY BY THE STAFF LIAISON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAIRPERSON, DELETING THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMISSION OR REMEMBERING THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS.
CHANGING THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS TO SIX PER YEAR.
CHANGING THE NAMES OF THE RESPECTIVE BODIES TO ADVISORY BOARDS.
CHANGING THE NUMBER OF NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD TO FIVE.
AND OTHER CHANGES FOR CONSISTENCY AND CURRENT PRACTICE.
WE NEED MORE DIRECTION REALLY.
ON THE COMBINING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, SUCH AS HOW MANY MEMBERS, WHAT THEIR GOAL, THEIR PURPOSE IS AND THAT KIND OF THING BEFORE WE CAN MOVE OVER, MOVE ON FOR ANY ORDINANCE CHANGES.
OKAY. SO BASICALLY THE BULLET POINTS ON THE ON THE AGENDA ITEM, CORRECT.
PLUS THE PARK AND BEAUTIFICATION CONVERSATION.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO THAT'S IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MICHAEL? SO THE VERY FIRST BULLET POINT WAS YOU NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION ON LIMITING THE TERMS OF CHAIRPERSONS TO TWO, TWO YEAR TERMS. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER DO THAT CONSECUTIVE CONSECUTIVE TERMS, THAT'S A YES OR NO.
CONSECUTIVE TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS. SO IT SEEMS TO BE AN EASY ONE.
THE SELECTION OF THE SECRETARY BY THE STAFF LIAISON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAIRPERSON.
ARE WE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT? OBJECTIONS. EXCITED.
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I GOT TO TELL YOU, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MARGARET HALL THIS AFTERNOON, AND SHE'S SHE'S A LITTLE UPSET ABOUT US IN A WAY THAT THE CAC AND I MISSPOKE. MARGARET, I APOLOGIZE.AND I'D BE WILLING TO TALK TO ABOUT IT TOO MARGARET, JUST TO SEE WHAT..
YEAH. I MEAN I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN AND I AGREE I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I'M JUST A LITTLE LEERY OF JUMPING ON THIS.
CORRECT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE DO.
AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT SITUATION.
AND SHE DIDN'T BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE HER RELEASE DO SEE.
AND SO THAT KIND OF STUCK HER IN NEUTRAL.
SO I APOLOGIZE TO MARGARET VERY MUCH.
[INAUDIBLE] FEELING ON THAT, TABLE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SO WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT FURTHER.
CHANGING THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS TO SIX PER YEAR, IS THAT A MANDATORY OR IS THAT JUST A SUGGESTION? WHEN WE WERE DOING THAT, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE MINIMUM AND BUT THEY DID NEED TO SCHEDULE THEM AT THE FIRST MEETING, YOU KNOW LIKE IF THEY FELT THEY NEEDED MORE MEETINGS, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
SO YEAH, A GROUP LIKE BEAUTIFICATION WHO HAS WORKDAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD EXCEED THAT.
SO THAT'S NOT A NO TO THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S SETTING A UNIFORM STANDARD.
THEY DON'T NEED TO MEET THAT OFTEN, YOU KNOW.
BUT SIX IS WHAT WE SAID, WE RECOMMENDED.
JUST KIND OF A STANDARD RECOGNITION.
HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THAT? WE'LL GET ON THAT.
REALLY, MOST EVERYBODY THAT WE SPOKE WITH WAS I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYBODY THAT DISAGREED WITH LOWERING THE NUMBER BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. AND IF THEY NEEDED TO MEET MORE FREQUENTLY, THEY HAD THE LEEWAY TO DO IT.
SO YEAH. SO I MAKE A PASS THROUGH ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD ON THAT WAS THIS AN OBLIGATORY SET NUMBER, I.E.
THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE WORLD? AND EVEN THE PARKS BOARDS OF THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN SPECIAL EVENTS AND STUFF WE HAVE GOING ON.
SO THEY MIGHT EXCEED IT AS WELL.
IF YOU CAN BRING A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER TO MEET.
YEAH, GO AHEAD. CHANGING THE NAMES OF THE RESPECTIVE BODIES TO ADVISORY BOARDS.
WE DIDN'T THINK IT REALLY WAS AT ALL.
WE THOUGHT THAT THE REASON BEING IS LIKE SEVERAL OF OUR ADVISORY ALREADY, LIBRARY ADVISORY.
AND WE THOUGHT SOME OF THEM, THAT'S ALL THEY REALLY WANTED TO DO IS BE ADVISORY.
SO WHY NOT SWITCH THEM ALL TO ADVISORY? AND THEN THAT SAYS TO EVERYONE THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL AT ALL.
OKAY. AND ANY OBJECTIONS, EVERYONE GOOD.
THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE STAFF LIAISON.
OTHER CHANGES FOR CONSISTENCY AND CURRENT PRACTICES.
SO JUST FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES AND THEN FOR THE PRACTICES, IT'S REGARDING THE ACTUALLY THE ATTENDANCE POLICY WHERE IT SAYS THAT ONCE A MEMBER MISSES TWO MEETINGS WITHIN WHATEVER YEAR THE THE BOARD MEETS, THAT I SEND A LETTER TO THEM.
SO IT'S A KINDER, GENTLER APPROACH.
THE SUMMARY POINT OF ADJUSTMENT IS NOT AN ADVISORY BOARD.
YES MA'AM, AND WE'RE NOT INTENDING IT TO BE.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT THAT IN THAT QUASI JUDICIAL.
SO THAT'S THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.
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SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT GENERAL TWEAK IN LANGUAGE FOR CONSISTENCY? CORRECT. MICHAEL WELLS LOOK SEMI PANICKED.
OKAY. SO THE LAST THING IS ABOUT COMBINING BEAUTIFICATION AND PARKS, CORRECT? WELL, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THAT WE SUGGESTED, AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT IS WE FELT THAT THE STAFF LIAISON SHOULD PROBABLY RUN THE MEETING BECAUSE THEY OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME BEFORE RICHARD, RUTH AND I WERE THAT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE VISION.
WELL, STAFF HAD BETTER KNOW OUR VISION.
AND THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S STILL BE A CHAIR.
THIS WOULD BE A SECRETARY CHAIR WOULD STILL TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MEMBERS.
COUNCIL THOUGHTS ON, WELL, THE STAFF LIAISON RUNNING MEETINGS.
WE HAVE ANY FEELINGS ON THAT? NO MAJOR OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
SO THEN COMBINING BEAUTIFICATION AND PARKS.
I HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT NOW I'M HAVING..
I'M GETTING BLASTED ON THAT ONE.
YEAH, I WAS ALL FOR IT AT THE BEGINNING, THEN TAKING A LOOK AT IT.
I DON'T SEE A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OR A REASON TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THAT FOR US TO GET CREATIVE.
CONJUNCTIVELY OR SOMETHING, AND HE CAN GO FROM ONE MEETING TO ANOTHER MEETING.
BUT HE'S REALLY, HE'S STRETCHED.
AND SO WHEN SPEAKING, THOUGH, WITH THE CHAIR PEOPLE OF BOTH NOW.
THEY WEREN'T HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE TO IT, BUT YET EACH WANTS THEIR OWN AUTONOMY.
RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GIVE THEM BOTH, BUT.
BUT A LOT OF THIS WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT DON AND HOW AND WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, HE REALLY SPENDS A LOT OF TIME WITH THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. BUT I DO THINK ONE THING WOULD HELP DON, IS THAT IF HE RUNS THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, HE'LL HAVE FULL CONTROL.
AND I'LL SAY THIS AND AGAIN, I CIRCULATE IN AMONGST THE BOARDS.
BOTH THOSE GROUPS HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR DON.
SO I THINK HE WOULD CONTROL THE ROOMS. I MEAN, HE WOULD, THEY WOULD APPRECIATE HIM.
[INAUDIBLE] THE CONVERSATION, IS THIS ONE CAN WE COME BACK TO THIS AND PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVITY IN? I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING HERE, MAYBE WE JUST HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S RICHARD'S AS WELL.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? SO CAN WE COME BACK TO THAT ONE, MICHAEL? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DO YOU WANT TO PUT AN ORDINANCE FOR THE OTHER CHANGES LIKE ON THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANOTHER ONE LATER? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND, JIMI? I MEAN, SOME OF THESE WERE GOOD WITH SOME WE WANT TO COME BACK TO.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE WE SEND MICHAEL ON? WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TO US.
I HOPE WE'VE GOT SOME MORE CLARITY AND WE'RE NARROWING THE LIST.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
[12. Discussion and receive Council direction regarding the scope of the BRW Architects agreement to design the Performing Arts Center.]
CENTER. I DO NOT HAVE WHO'S GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] JIMMY STATHATOS.AND I'D LIKE TO CALL GARY JOHNSON A PROJECT MANAGER UP WHILE I'M TALKING TO IF THAT'S OKAY, GARY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS WILL HELP US COME UP WITH THE SCOPE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND THEN WE'LL ALSO COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING OPTIONS.
AS I RECALL, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WAS SET ASIDE FOR THE FOREIGN ART CENTER.
BUT ONCE WE STARTED GETTING INTO IT AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE, THE CITY'S WANTS VERSUS THE BUDGET, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I DON'T WANT SPEAK ON THE COUNCIL'S BEHALF, BUT MY FEELING BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK IS WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE BUDGET, BUT
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WE ALSO WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL BE USEFUL AND PRODUCTIVE FOR THE CITY.WE DON'T JUST WANT TO CHECK THE BOX AND SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO SPEND? LET'S BUILD THIS. AND THEN IT MIGHT NOT MEET THE CITY'S NEEDS OR DESIRES.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND AGAIN, THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, A RISK APPROACH. I'VE DONE THAT WITH ALMOST EVERY PROJECT IN MY CAREER.
WE'RE DOING IT WITH GENERATIONS PARK.
SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE KIND OF VALUE ENGINEER TO WHERE YOU'RE NOT CUTTING CORNERS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, DO WE REALLY NEED THIS TYPE OF MATERIAL WHEN THIS IS JUST AS GOOD AND IT'S A LOT CHEAPER OR RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW STEEL, THAT'S PROBABLY A BAD EXAMPLE.
THE LAG TIME ON STEEL DELIVERY AND THE SURPLUS IN TERMS OF COSTS IS THIS HOW ABOUT THIS? IT'S A WAY TO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CONTROL COSTS TO WHERE THE CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS GET MORE MONEY, GET MORE FOR THEIR MONEY.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, GARY JOHNSON HAS BEEN THE PROJECT MANAGER.
HE'S ALSO PROJECT MANAGER FOR GENERATIONS PARK DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
WELL, I'LL SAY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THEN INTRODUCE BRW AS WE'VE SEEN AS WE WENT THROUGH THE MEETINGS AND THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND I THINK WE SAW SOME DIRECTION OF NOT SO MUCH OF A MEETING SPACE, BUT MORE FOCUS ON A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
AND SO KIND OF GIVEN THE ARCHITECT'S DIRECTION OF THAT WAY OF WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT.
IT WOULD HELP IF THEY HAD IF WE HAD, AS WE SAID, SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET BECAUSE PART OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT IS BASED ON WHAT THE PROJECT COST IS. AND THE MORE, THE MORE THE COST IS BASED IN THEIR AGREEMENT, ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING WHERE SO THE PERCENTAGE WISE THERE'S GOING TO WORK AND BUT THE BIG THING IS COST ESCALATION.
SO FROM ALMOST A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE MEETING TO TODAY, THE COST HAS ESCALATED.
AND WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS, SAY, HOW MUCH HAS IT ESCALATED? 10%, 12%, 15%.
WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS RISING EVERY MONTH.
AND JIMMY WAS RIGHT ON GETTING THIS CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON BOARD EARLY ON FOR THE DESIGN, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND GIVE US THAT ADVICE ON WHAT THE PRICE OF THIS IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE PRICE OF THAT IN.
AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL INTRODUCE CRAIG REYNOLDS WITH BRW AND HE WILL HAVE A FEW WORDS TO SAY ABOUT SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AND WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION THAT THEY REALLY NEED.
CRAIG? YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR TOY BOX WITH YOU, WITH YOUR LITTLE BOXES.
CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEING HERE AGAIN THIS EVENING.
YES, I THINK, GARY, EXPLAINING JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND JIMMY, APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION AS WELL.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN THE PATH WITH THE COMMITTEE, WITH THE WITH WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND ALSO WITH THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF OUR VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DID. BEEN SOME GREAT INPUT FROM ALL DIFFERENT ANGLES COMING AT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, JUST LOOKING AT THE OLD BEDFORD SCHOOL, BUT ALSO AT THE PARK ITSELF, AS WELL AS WHERE THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WILL BE.
I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON A LOT OF THAT.
WE'RE JUST AT THE BEGINNING, THOUGH.
THIS IS JUST THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IS JUST WORDS ON PAPER AT THE MOMENT.
NOTHING IS WRITTEN IN STONE BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT IS A MATTER OF GIVING US DIRECTION IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WE FEEL THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO PUT FORTH TOWARDS THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF A BUDGET, AND THEREFORE THAT WE CAN TRULY REFINE THE PROGRAM EVEN MORE GREATLY.
I BELIEVE, AS MR. COCHRAN EARLIER TODAY, THAT HAD A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS.
AND YES, ALL OF THAT IS FLUID AND FLEXIBLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THAT GAVE US SOME OF THE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.
SO FROM HERE, WE WAIT WITH BATED BREATH IN TERMS AND SO LONG AS WE HAVEN'T EXPENDED ALL THE DOLLARS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY TONIGHT, WE STILL HAVE A FEW HOURS LEFT TO THINK, TO VOTE WITH. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH, AS GARY SAID, BRINGING FORTH PROPOSAL FOR ONE OF YOUR FUTURE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
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THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU, CRAIG.APPRECIATE THAT. SO, JIMMY, WHAT IS IT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR TONIGHT FROM COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THREE SCOPES.
I MEAN, THREE WELL, THREE SCOPE CONTENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF Y'ALL ARE GRAVITATING TOWARDS ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS OR A VARIATION OF ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF POSSIBLE, WITH AN AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD ONCE Y'ALL ARE BRIEFED ON THE FINANCE OPTIONS ON WHICH OPTION YOU WANT SO WE CAN JUST GET GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
SO OKAY, SO THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT WE WE HAD SOME TOWN HALL MEETINGS ABOUT THIS.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, I THINK THEY WERE EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE.
IT REALLY HELPED ME NARROW WHERE MY HEAD IS ON THIS.
SO YOU DON'T WANT US TONIGHT TO NECESSARILY DWELL ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS? OR YOU DO WANT US TO DWELL ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS? I DO WANT YOU TO DWELL ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS..
THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN CONSTRUCTIVELY GOING FORWARD TAKE SOME OF OUR NEW OBSERVATIONS ON WHAT WE WANT AND APPLY THEM TO THESE CONCEPTS THAT WILL MOVE THE NUMBERS UP OR DOWN.
YES, SIR. MAY I GIVE AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE? LIKE, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE OPTIONS, LIKE THE THE LARGER OPTION, THERE ARE TWO GOOD SIZED MEETING ROOMS THAT CAN BE USED FOR ART EXHIBITS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. IT MIGHT BE A MATTER OF Y'ALL SAYING, WELL, WE WANT TO STAY WITHIN THIS BUDGET, BUT LET'S HOLD OFF ON THIS MEETING ROOM.
YES, SIR. BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, WE BOUGHT A LOT OF BITCOIN.
OKAY, COUNCIL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? IS THAT HOW WE GET PAID AS WELL? BY BITCOIN.
THANKS FOR COMING, CRAIG. YEAH, THANK YOU.
ORIGINALLY, WE HAD THOUGHT MAKING THIS PROJECT VERY FLEXIBLE WAS THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD.
AND AFTER HAVING NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS, PEOPLE SAID, NO, YOU NEED TO BE GOOD.
YOU KNOW, JUST BEING A JACK OF ALL TRADES, YOU NEED TO BE A MASTER OF ONE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
THE WATER FEATURES THE ART THAT WE COULD PUT THERE.
DOES THAT LIMIT US ANY OPTIONS THAT WE CHOOSE FOR ENHANCING THE SITE AT ALL CRAIG? NO, [INAUDIBLE] COUNCILMAN COGAN.
IT'S ALSO A DESTINATION FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND PERHAPS EVEN BEYOND.
AND THAT WE WILL NOT LIMIT BY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING HERE TODAY.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, FOR ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRAWS ME TO THIS IS COMPLETELY ENHANCING THIS SITE, MAKING IT A DESTINATION, BECAUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WE'RE GOING HAVE BEDFORD COMMONS.
AND SO HAVING PEOPLE MAKING A SEAMLESS APPROACH WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST GO FROM BEDFORD, COME STRAIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD TO OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THEN TO OUR LIBRARY AND TRACKING PEOPLE THERE.
AND HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE THERE? THAT'S SITE ENHANCEMENT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE INVEST IN THAT SITE ENHANCEMENT WATER FEATURES, PICNIC TABLES, EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THAT AREA BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIAL PLACE. VERY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TO PIGGYBACK THAT, I MEAN, MY THOUGHT IS YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, WHICH IS ALL THE GREEN SPACE AND EVERYTHING, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE KIND OF A BLANK CANVAS AND ADD DIRECTION AND FLOW TO THAT SITE TO COMPLEMENT WHATEVER WE DO WITH IT.
AND THAT CAN ALSO SUPPORT ANY SPECIAL EVENTS WE'RE HAVING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S A NEAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY KIND OF.
DO SOME NEAT, I THINK, VISUALLY PLEASING THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE WITH IT.
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AND THE OPTIONS WERE, EXCUSE ME, THE HIGH END WAS 10 MILLION, THEN 9 MILLION.WAS IT 8.5? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
AND THE PRICES HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT WE'D HAVE HERE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S CHANGED SINCE LAST YEAR.
SO WHAT WOULD. SO WHAT IS THE PRICE AS WE TALK ABOUT NOW? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WANT. IT DEPENDS.
SO, IN THE NEXT MEETING WHERE WE'RE TALKING, HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, AS CRAIG IS SAYING.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE TELLS ME NOT TO.
I THINK I THINK WE ARE AT THE CONCEPT STAGE.
I LEARNED A LOT IN THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
I LEARNED WHAT TO LASER FOCUS ON AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO MY CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
SOUNDS LIKE MR. COGAN AGREES WITH THAT, TOO.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE STILL HAVING JACK OF ALL TRADES.
WE'LL FOCUS ON PERFORMING ON CENTER IS WHAT? SO FUNCTIONALITY IS A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.
BUT WITH THAT, THE PRICE FOLLOWS WHICHEVER DIRECTION WE GO AS A GROUP.
SO ON THIS LIST IT SAYS BALLROOM.
DIDN'T WE KIND OF DECIDE THAT THAT WAS NOT NECESSARY? THAT WAS TO BE OVER THE GENERATION PARK.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT EXTRA MEETING ROOMS, ONE FOR 60 AND ONE FOR 40 AND ONE FOR 16 PEOPLE.
AND COULD THAT NOT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE LIBRARIES USED, BUT THEY'VE GOT MEETING ROOMS THAT WILL HOLD THOSE THOSE ITEMS. SO DO WE REALLY NEED THOSE AT THAT LOCATION? WOULD WE BETTER BE BETTER OFF WITH A LARGER SPACE THAT CAN HANDLE MORE PEOPLE? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, THE ROOM WE'RE TALKING THAT WE'LL SEAT 140, 140 FOR PERFORMANCE.
AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU EARLIER, JIMMY, IS THAT I THINK THE TARGET WAS AROUND 200, 225, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO HIT THE SWEET SPOT OF WHAT THE CONSULTANT TOLD US A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
BUT YEAH, WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THAT TO 200 WHAT IT WOULD BE AND YOU KNOW, THE BALLROOMS THAT THAT WAS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT LIKE JIMI'S PLAN, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FOCUS ON LIKE FOR CONVENTIONS HAVE LUNCHEONS, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM COULD BE AT GENERATIONS PARK AT THE CENTER, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ULTIMATELY ALL WOULD DECIDE.
SO I, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP OUR COST.
HOW, LIKE, HOW CLOSE DO YOU WANT US TO GET? I MEAN, LIKE, IF I, IF I SHOT YOU A FIGURE LIKE SAYING 10 MILLION BASED ON 10 MILLION MAY GO LOWER AS A COST, WHERE WOULD IS THAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A 15 AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU 20.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN WE'RE GOING FROM 8 TO 10, THAT'S 2 MILLION, SO.
I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM. IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT MEMBER COGAN SAID IS THAT THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAD IN THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO NOW BASED UPON THE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
WE'VE ALSO SAID THAT FINE, PERHAPS SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS WE CAN USE TOWARDS INCREASING THE PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY, THE HALL ITSELF, THE PERFORMANCE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 200 INDIVIDUALS IN THERE.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THAT WE CAN ACCRUE THROUGH SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD.
WITH THAT, YES, I THINK AT YOUR $10 MILLION NUMBER, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TARGET TO BE AT.
AND OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THE VERY FIRST STAGES OF THE PROJECT WILL WORK TO REFINING THAT.
AND WHEN, AS GARY SAID, WHEN THE CMAR COMES ON BOARD, WILL BE ABLE TO REFINE IT EVEN FURTHER.
I'D SAY THE ONE FLEXIBLE POINT YOU HAVE IS THE PARK ITSELF.
IF WE WERE SO LUCKY THAT I'M WITH MR. COGAN, I THINK THE GREEN SPACE IS GOING TO BE A DRAW.
AND I THINK IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING?
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SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS TO SAY 10 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE SITE PLAN PLUS THE BUILDING, THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT. IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE THIS A PLEASANT PLACE TO BE, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE GREEN SPACE.AND I JUST PUT MY NECK OUT THERE, DIDN'T I? BUT THAT'S WHAT I HONESTLY THINK.
YOU'RE OUT. YOU'RE AGREEING FOR A SECOND NIGHT.
I'LL. I'LL THROW MY NECK OUT THERE WITH YOU.
BUT HERE'S THE THING. LET'S LEARN FROM OUR HISTORY.
WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THERE.
WE UNDERESTIMATED, DIDN'T WE? HOW MUCH OF THAT PROJECT WAS GOING TO COST? AND THEN WE HAD TO START CUTTING.
AND SO WITH THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
IF WE START LOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET AT THE END? SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO LEARN FROM OUR LESSONS OF THE PAST.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CULVER.
BUT WHERE DOES THE EXTRA MONEY COME FROM? THAT'S. I'M SORRY.
LOOK, THAT AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AT THAT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
THEN I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO US BEFORE WE GO AND OBLIGATE OURSELVES TO SOMETHING, WOULD WE NOT? WELL, IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BUT THE REASON I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT WAITING IS BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T OBLIGATE YOU.
THIS JUST SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL'S GOAL IS.
AND THEN THAT GIVES US TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN MEET THOSE GOALS WITH THE EXTENT, WITH THE EXISTING FUNDING OPTIONS AND IF IT COMES BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE CAN'T GET THERE, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT EXPECT YOU ALL TO VOTE ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY, ARPA FUNDS ALONE.
YOU COULD PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT ANY OF THESE OPTIONS ARE, PERIOD.
IT'S JUST A TRADE OFF BASED ON ANY OTHER ARPA PROJECTS YOU WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
AND JIMMY, WE CAN STRUCTURE OUR AGREEMENT THE SAME WAY TO WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY REFLECT THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE IT WAS GOING TO COME FROM.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF MY POCKET.
WE ARE NOT SETTING THE BUDGET TODAY, BUT WE'RE GIVING A WE'RE GIVING A BASELINE TO WORK FROM TO GO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT IN SPECIFICITY IN THIS PROJECT.
SO IT MAY MOVE THAT NUMBER DOWN BECAUSE COMING OUT OF THE TOWN HALL, I KNOW I LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED IN THIS.
SO WE'VE GOT A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF BRINGING THAT NUMBER DOWN RATHER THAN GOING UP.
YES, SIR. IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
WELL, WITH THAT SAME LINE OR REASONING, WHEN WE SAY WE'VE GOT TO PUT THAT 10 MILLION AND FIND OUT HOW TO GET THERE, WHY COULDN'T YOU PUT IT AT EIGHT OR NINE AND SEE HOW MUCH FURTHER WE COULD GO TO UPWARDS AND GO UPWARDS? I MEAN, WHY DO YOU START HIGH AND THEN ATTEMPT TO WORK DOWN? WHY NOT START? FOR SOME OF THE REASONS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH WAS LESSONS FROM THE PAST? SO WE DO THAT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LESSONS FROM OUR PAST HAVE SHOWN US THAT OVER TIME, AS WE WAIT AND WE DELIBERATE, PRICES GO UP AND AS THE PRICES GO UP, THEN THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE DOES.
AND SO THEN YOU START LOSING THINGS OVER TIME.
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DO WE RECOMMEND RECOGNIZE WE WANT AN $8 MILLION PROJECT? IT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE.MAYOR, MAY I SPEAK, PLEASE? YES, SIR. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU ALL JUST STATED.
I'LL GO WITH TEN. TEN? PROBABLY WORTH THIS, THOUGH. LIKE, HOW DO YOU DO THIS? WE'RE JUST GIVING GENERAL DIRECTION, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH SPECIFICITY ON THE AGREEMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO AGREE WITH THE INITIAL CONCEPT AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK FROM HERE.
THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT BEFORE WE RELEASE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GARY.
[13. Mayor/Council Member Reports]
OKAY. ITEM 13.MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER. OF COURSE, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY REPORT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY, HOW ABOUT THAT HARWOOD ROAD? YES. OKAY.
[14. City Manager/Staff Reports]
JIMMY STATHATOS, CITY MANAGER.THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU COUNCIL.
BUT IT'S A BIG DISCUSSION, A BIG OBLIGATION.
SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED.
SO IF YOU AREN'T READY, THEN THEN WE PUSH IT OFF.
BUT THE ITEM THAT'S A LITTLE MORE TIME SENSITIVE IS THE GENERATIONS PARK MANAGEMENT.
IN TERMS OF WHETHER THE CITY MANAGES IT OR THE YMCA, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE NEED TO DECIDE BECAUSE WHOEVER'S GOING TO OPERATE IT NEEDS TIME TO ORDER EQUIPMENT, ORDER FURNITURE AND ALSO STAFF UP.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 10TH, WE'LL HAVE THE RESULTS FROM THE RFP AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION WITH AN AGREEMENT OR A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY TO OPERATE IT.
BUT THAT WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO FORESHADOW BECAUSE IT WASN'T READY TO GO THIS TIME, BUT IT IS TIME SENSITIVE.
THE ONLY OTHER ITEM IS THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS THANKS TO OUR NEW CFO AND HER STAFF, WE'RE UPDATING OUR PURCHASING POLICY TO TIGHTEN UP A LOT OF THINGS AND THAT WILL BE COMING TO MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING, MAYBE MAY TEN, BUT IT MIGHT BE MORE A LATER ONE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE.
JUST SOME THINGS WE NEED TO BUCKLE DOWN.
OH, YES. OH, YEAH. AND THANK YOU.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ONE OF THE PRESENTERS IS AVAILABLE.
SO IT COULD GO TO MAY 24TH IF THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
551.074. SO QUICKLY, NOT LONG.WE JUST CONVENED A QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ACTION TO TAKE AS A RESULT.
COUNCIL. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAGLIARDI.
WE HAVE A SECOND TO ADJOURN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER COGAN.
LET'S VOTE. THAT'S SHOULD BE UNANIMOUS.
OKAY. WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 8:30.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.