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I WILL NOW, CALL THE FEBRUARY 10TH 2022 P&Z MEETING TO ORDER, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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PATIENCE, WE HAD A SLIGHT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TURN DOWN ANYTHING THAT MAKES NOISE.
AND WITH THAT, SOMEBODY YOU WON'T DO THE INVOCATION? I FORGOT TO ASK. SURE.
OK, WE'LL DO THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE AND WE'LL GET IT UNDERWAY.
ARE WE GOING TO STAND UP OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR EVENING THIS EVENING, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY YOU PROVIDED US TO SERVE OUR CITY.
PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE STRENGTH TO UNDERSTAND THOSE ITEMS BEFORE US AND MAKE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY IN YOUR NAME.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY.
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I TRUST EVERYONE HAD TIME TO GO OVER THE MINUTES.DID ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS OF NOTE THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED OR MODIFIED? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 13.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE. SORRY ABOUT THAT, MORE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OVER HERE. CHAIRMAN DAVIS.
COMMISSIONER EMERY. AYE. COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY.
SORRY. COMMISSIONER HENDERSON.
AYE. AND COMMISSION COMMISSIONER MANIRE.
SORRY, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE. THAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE].
EXCUSE ME, WE'RE HAVING PEOPLE TECHNOLOGY NOW OR PEOPLE PROBLEMS NOW.
[2. Conduct a public hearing and consider a final plat of Lot 1R, Block 1 of the Christian Life Tabernacle Addition consisting of 3.7 acres being a replat of Lot 1 Block 1 of Christian Life Tabernacle and Tract 6A of the James Matson Survey Abstract 1080, generally located on the east side of Central Drive south of Nottingham Drive and north of Gettysburg Place, commonly known as 1104 Central Drive. (PZ-REPLAT-2020-50042)]
TONIGHT, WE WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER FINAL PLAT FOR LOT 1R BLOCK 1 OF THE CHRISTIAN LIFE TABERNACLE ADDITION OF 3.7 ACRES BEING A REPLAT OF LOT 1 BLOCK 1 CHRISTIAN LIFE TABERNACLE AND TRACT 6A OF THE JAMES MATSON SURVEY ABSTRACT 1080, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CENTRAL DRIVE, SOUTH OF NOTTINGHAM DRIVE AND NORTH OF GETTYSBURG PLACE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1104 CENTRAL DRIVE AND ITS CASE PZ-REPLAT-2020-50042.THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
THIS IS A REPLAT TO COMBINE EXISTING CHURCH PROPERTY WITH A VACANT LOT TO THE SOUTH TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION.
EXISTING CHURCH PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE AND THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH IS A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES.
THIS IS CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL REPLAT SINCE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, SO THEREFORE WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
JUST FOR PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAT, ALL ACCESS IS FROM CENTRAL DRIVE.
WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS WILL BE FROM CENTRAL DRIVE AS WELL.
PLAT MEETS ALL THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLIES WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT, AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
DOES SORRY, WES DOES THE CHURCH CURRENTLY OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH? YES THEY DO. OK.
AND THIS IS, WHERE DOES THIS FIT INTO THE SUP THAT WERE EXTENDING THIS ITEM TO IS THIS NOT A PLAT THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED.
NO, THE PLAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET.
TYPICALLY, YOU WON'T APPROVE PLAT UNTIL CIVIL PLANS ARE APPROVED.
AND THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE DELAY ON THIS PROJECT.
SO THEY'VE GOTTEN THOSE CIVIL PLANS APPROVED.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED FOR BUILDING PERMIT, WHICH I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN COVER IT NOW, TOO.
SO THEY'VE SUBMITTED FOR BUILDING PERMITS.
SO WE THINK PLATS DEFINITELY READY TO GO AND WE THINK HOPEFULLY FINGERS CROSSED THIS WILL BE THE LAST EXTENSION THEY NEED ON THE SUP.
OK. OKAY, SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE THAT WANTS
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TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
OK, SEEING, NONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONERS.
OK, WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WHAT DO WE SEE THAT THEY'VE ADDED OTHER THAN ADDING THE LOT? WHAT DID THEY CHANGE ON THE PLAT? WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT? WHAT'S HERE? SEE, IT'S JUST DRIVEWAYS, MIKE.
WELL, THEY'RE BRINGING IN AN UNPLANTED TRACT IS WHAT I SEE OF IT.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST SO ALL THEY'RE DOING THE LOT TO THE SOUTH.
THEY'RE JUST COMBINING THE TWO LOTS SO THEY CAN GET THE BUILDING PERMIT.
OK. AND IT HAS TO BE FULLY PLATED TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT.
WELL, THE DRAWING WE HAVE SHOWS SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE SOUTHERN PART.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S MORE CIVIL RELATED STUFF.
EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RIGHT. GOT IT. THOSE ARE CIVIL STUFF.
IF I GET THE I'M TRYING. THERE WE GO.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE PLANNING AND ZONING SUP EXTENSION 2-2018-50060.
I'LL SECOND. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE CASE NUMBER THAT WAS READ OFF WAS FOR THE NEXT CASE. WE'RE ON THE REPLAT APPLICATION RIGHT NOW.
YEAH SAME PROPERTY, BUT. YEAH 202050042, RIGHT? YES. OK. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECTED.
I SECOND. ALL RIGHT I THINK HE ALREADY DID.
WE GOT A SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANIRE.
[3. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for an extension of a Specific Use Permit (SUP) PZSUP- 2018-50060 for the Christian Life Tabernacle Church to allow additional time prior to the expiration of the SUP originally granted on March 10, 2020, per Section 5.3.C (Duration of Specific Use Permit) of the City of Bedford Zoning Ordinance. (PZ-SUP-EXT2-2018-50060)]
NEXT CASE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AN EXTENSION OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SUP-2018-50060 FOR THE CHRISTIAN LIFE TABERNACLE CHURCH TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO THE PRIOR EXPIRATION OF THE SUP ORIGINALLY GRANTED ON MARCH 10, 2020 PER SECTION 5.3.C DURATION OF SPECIFIC USES PERMIT OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD ZONING ORDINANCE PZ-SUP-EXT2-2018-50060 STAFF.SURE, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN 2018 APPROVED IN 2020 AS ALREADY STATED ALLOWS FOR THE EXPANSION OF A LITTLE OVER ELEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
THE TOTAL AREA IS ADDING 510 SEATS TO THE FACILITY, WHICH REQUIRED ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ANOTHER EXTENSION FOR ONE YEAR.
LIKE I'VE ALREADY STATED THEY RAISED SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR CIVIL PLANS.
THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW.
TONIGHT, CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE EXTENSION.
OKAY. YOU WANT TO SPEAK? THE APPLICANT'S WELCOME TO COME AND PRESENT THE CASE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, THAT'S FINE.
YEAH I THINK THIS IS FINE OKAY. WELL, SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST PZ-SUP-EXT2-2018-50060 PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND.
WOW. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONERS? NO, SIR. OK, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF PZ-SUP-EXT2-2018-50060.
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SECOND. ROLL CALL.AYE. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.
[4. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation for a Specific Use Permit to allow the use of a tattoo shop on property legally described as Lot 1A Block 1 The Oaks Addition, generally located on the north side of Airport Freeway, between Forest Ridge Drive and Parkwood Drive and more commonly known as 1809 Airport Freeway (PZ-SUP-2022-500002)]
ITEM 4 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE USE OF A TATTOO SHOP ON PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 1A BLOCK 1 THE OAKS ADDITION, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AIRPORT FREEWAY BETWEEN FOREST RIDGE DRIVE AND PARKWOOD DRIVE MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1809 AIRPORT FREEWAY PZ-SUP-2022-500002 STAFF.THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. AS STATED, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD . BEDFORD COMMONS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS A MIXED USE PUD TO ALLOW FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF USES . IN THE PERMITTED USE CHART IT REQUIRES THAT ANY TATTOO SHOP THAT'S WANTING TO COME IN NEEDS TO GET AN APPROVED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT.
JUST AS A RECAP, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT SUPS ARE A LAND USE DECISION.
THEY ARE A DISCRETIONARY DECISION.
TYPICALLY, SUPS ARE, SUPS REQUIRE A SITE PLAN.
THE REASON THEY REQUIRE THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS BEING DEVELOPED IN A COMPATIBLE SITE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN THIS CASE, THE SITE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SURROUNDING LAND USES TO SEE EXACTLY IF A TATTOO SHOP IS COMPATIBLE USE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND IT'S IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THAT AREA. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
IT'S THIS MULTIPLE USES IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER, TWO OR THREE RESTAURANTS, ACTUALLY THREE RESTAURANTS, IT'S CARTER BLOOD CARE, TWO DIFFERENT FITNESS CENTERS AND ACTUALLY MAYBE THREE RESTAURANTS ARE IN THERE.
BUT JUST A VARIETY OF USES IN THE CURRENT SHOPPING CENTER.
SURROUNDING THE SHOPPING CENTER, WE'VE GOT A BANK TO THE NORTH, HOTEL AND SURGERY CENTER TO THE WEST, AND THEN RETAIL AND SERVICE TO THE EAST.
WE NOTIFIED EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF FIVE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE PLACED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST AS IT SITS TODAY.
YOU'LL CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
YOU CAN TAKE ACTION THAT CAN BE APPROVED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
SUP'S DO ALLOW CONDITIONS TO BE PLACED ON THEM IF YOU FEEL THAT THERE'S A CONDITION THAT'S NEEDED TO ENSURE THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I DO KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE SO THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? OK, WOULD THE.
GO AHEAD. WOULD THE APPLICANT, I'D LIKE TO COME AND PRESENT THEIR CASE.
YES. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND.
YES, MA'AM. I'M CATHERINE SLAGLE.
I'M AT. MY ADDRESS IS 6708 CHEATHAM DRIVE, WATAUGA, TEXAS 76148.
I CURRENTLY OWN TWO TATTOO SHOPS ALREADY.
ONE OF THEM IS IN KELLER AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN RICHLAND HILLS.
THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL SHOPS.
I PLAN ON MAKING THIS SHOP CLASSY AND I WILL HAVE GOOD QUALITY WORK COMING OUT OF THERE.
A LOT OF MY ARTISTS ARE ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE MOVE BECAUSE I DID START THE FIRST RICHLAND HILLS TATTOO SHOP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT IT HASN'T SHOWN TO BE VERY PROFITABLE, SO I'M LOOKING TO MOVE MY STAFF FROM THAT LOCATION TO THIS LOCATION.
MY OTHER SHOP IN KELLER IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 9 YEARS.
I HAVE A REALLY GOOD REPUTATION WITH RAUL AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, I'M ALWAYS ON TOP OF ALL THE CODES AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND INVOLVED WITH THE TATTOOS.
THANK YOU. SO WE ARE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING IF SOMEBODY COMES UP AND OBJECTS, YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING TO REBUT.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OR? DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT HOW IT'S DONE OR? I HAVE ONE. TALK ABOUT YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND THIS IS A SEVEN DAY A WEEK OPERATION.
IT WILL BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S THREE BARS IN THE AREA, WE PLAN ON CLOSING AT LIKE 10:00 P.M.
SO WE DON'T GET A BUNCH OF PEOPLE LEAVING THE BAR, TRYING TO COME GET TATTOOED, AND ALL MY
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ARTISTS HAVE FAMILIES THEY WANT TO GET HOME TO.SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OPEN SUPER LATE.
IT'D PROBABLY BE LIKE NOON TO 10:00 P.M.
LATEST MIGHT BE 11:00 ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, DEPENDING ON HOW BUSY WE GET.
BUT I WOULDN'T PLAN ON STAYING OPEN ANY LATER THAN THAT.
HOW MANY ARTISTS WILL YOU HAVE IN THAT FACILITY? WITH THE SPACE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIT AT LEAST 8 TO 10 ARTISTS IN THERE, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE TWO PIERCERS.
THEY WILL HAVE HIGH QUALITY PIERCING JEWELRY ONLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CAT TATTOO'S IN DALLAS, BUT THEY ONLY SELL LIKE THE BEST JEWELRY. THAT'S THE TYPE OF STUFF I'M GOING TO HAVE IN THERE.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A NICE BUSINESS.
OK, WELL, HAVE A SEAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PZ-SUP-2022-500002.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, AND THAT IS FOR OR AGAINST, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND SPEAK.
JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SAM SUAREZ.
I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 2733 MERRIMAC DRIVE IN FORT WORTH OFF OF 7TH.
I HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH THIS CREW FOR ABOUT A YEAR ALREADY.
I'M AN ARTIST OF OVER 15 YEARS.
YOU CAN CURRENTLY SEE MY WORK ON AMAZON PRIME.
I'VE TATTOOED ON TELEVISION TWICE.
THE TYPE OF TATTOOING THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE TATTOOING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING HIGH ART TATTOOING.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR WORK, YOU WOULD SEE REPRODUCTIONS OF ANYTHING FROM A PICASSO TO A MICHELANGELO.
I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY CHANGING THE GAME UP.
AS TATTOO ARTISTS, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE.
NOBODY GETS FORCED TO GET TATTOOS.
WE THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF BEDFORD NEED A HIGH QUALITY TATTOO SHOP INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE AND MAYBE RUNNING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FAVORABLE.
I GUESS THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I'M AT 7960 SALMON RUN WAY IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS 76130.
AND I'VE BEEN TATTOOING QUITE A LONG TIME, THIRTY ONE YEARS THIS YEAR.
I'M CONSIDERED A GRANDPA IN THE GROUP FOR SURE, THE GOOD GENES DON'T SHOW QUITE AS MUCH.
THANK YOU, DAD. I'M REALLY, SELECTIVE ON WHERE I TATTOO.
I'VE TATTOOED AND CURRENTLY TATTOO IN CALIFORNIA, HAWAII, FRANCE, MICHIGAN.
LET'S SEE, IDAHO, OREGON, SO ALL ALL OVER, I FLY AND TATTOO AS WELL.
AND I'M REAL PICKY ABOUT WHERE I TATTOO AND WHO I TATTOO WITH.
I'VE LOOKED GROOMED OVER THE SHOP AND THE OWNER, AND I'VE WATCHED THEIR CAREERS AND I JUST I TOOK SOME TIME AND I'M REAL PICKY AND I CHOSE THEM TO BE WITH.
I'M THE KIND OF GUY I COME IN AT 10:00 10:30 IN THE MORNING AND I GO HOME BY 4:00 OR 5:00. YOU KNOW, JUST THE OLD TIMER.
I KIND OF GET THE CREAM OF THE CROP THINKER HOURS, IF YOU WILL.
[LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW, AND I STILL GET UP AND I STILL GO BECAUSE I LOVE WHAT I DO.
AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, HOW LONG? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO QUIT TATTOOING? AND THEY REALIZED SOON THAT THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE, UNTIL I CAN'T.
AND I SAY, YOU GOT IT TILL I CAN'T.
THERE'S AN INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE THAT'S DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
A LOT OF MY CLIENTS CALL IT TATTOO THERAPY BECAUSE I REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES.
HOW'S YOUR KIDS? HOW'S THAT GOING? YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, YOU TATTOO PEOPLE FOR 18 TO 25 YEARS SOON YOUR TATTOOING THEIR
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KIDS AS WELL. AND SO THERE'S A LEGACY THAT'S LEFT.I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT SAM WAS SAYING.
THERE IS A LOT OF SHOPS THAT WE FIX THEIR WORK.
AND SO I'M NOT TRYING TO DOWNPLAY OTHER SHOPS OR ARTISTS, BUT HE WAS RIGHT.
HE NAILED IT ON THE HEAD WHEN HE SAID QUALITY IS A CONCERN, BUT IT'S ALSO QUALITY OF PEOPLE. THE ARTISTS THAT ARE HERE MYSELF, THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH US, THEY'RE QUALITY PEOPLE.
AND SHE JUST DOESN'T PICK ANYBODY.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN AND NOT FIT THE BILL, NOT NOT MEASURE UP.
AND SO SHE SAYS, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A GRADE THAT HAS TO BE MET.
AND MAN, WHEN I GO TO WORK, I'VE BEEN TO SHOPS WHERE THE ARTISTS AREN'T UP TO SNUFF.
I COME TO WORK. I'M GOING, OH MAN, WHAT'S THE DRAMA WITH THIS KID TODAY? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PERSON? OR WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO NEED HELP WITH THEIR ARTWORK? LIKE, WHAT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
I COME TO WORK HERE. I FEEL COMFORTABLE.
EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS PLUS.
AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST SITTING AROUND.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF LONG TERM HISTORY IN TATTOOING KNOWLEDGE THAT GOES INTO IT. AND WE LOVE WHAT WE DO.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT AM I GOING TO DO SOME DAY IF I CAN'T TATTOO.
I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
SORRY, I'M KILLING YOU GUYS' TIME HERE BUT NO.
IT'S ALL RIGHT. BUT MAN, WE LOVE WHAT WE DO.
WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO, AND WE TAKE EACH PERSON EACH TATTOO INTO CONSIDERATION.
I'LL TELL PEOPLE, NO, YOU COME IN WITH A GENERIC TATTOO.
AND THIS JUST DOESN'T FIT YOU AT ALL.
I WOULD RATHER WAIT AND GIVE YOU SOMETHING GOOD OR WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE READY FOR A REAL TATTOO THAT FITS YOU SPECIFICALLY THEN JUST TAKE YOUR MONEY.
AND GENERALLY PEOPLE WILL COME BACK AND THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WERE RIGHT. THAT WAS NOT ME.
I WAS JUST GETTING IT BECAUSE I SAW IT ONLINE OR MY FRIENDS HAD ONE.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT'S YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOU.
AND YOU KIND OF DO AN INTERVIEW PROCESS.
THEY CALL IT A CONSULTATION, BUT WE'RE REALLY INTERVIEWING PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT ARE YOU ABOUT? HOW DOES THIS TATTOO REFLECT? AND IF IT DOESN'T, WHAT CAN WE FIND THAT DOES REFLECT WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PORTRAY OR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.
AND SO WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TATTOOS THAT ARE GOING TO LAST A LIFETIME. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE MICKEY MOUSE OR THE THE GOOFY TATTOOS.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
LATER ON YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, WE WERE JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME AND WE WERE DRUNK AND THIS AND THAT. I'M SORRY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GIVE THOSE OUT.
YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT AND YOU'RE A DISNEY, YOU'RE INTO WALT.
HEY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO LET ME KNOW.
SO, MAN, WE'RE JUST LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
WE LIKE, HE SAID. WE ARE A DIFFERENT CLASS OF TATTOO AND WE ARE A DYING BREED TO BE HONEST.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN RUB OFF ON SOME OF THE MID RANGE ARTISTS AND TEACH THEM THE WAYS TEACH THEM THE ROPES, HELP THEM TO HAVE SOME GUSTO, SOME LOVE FOR WHAT THEY DO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
AND I'M JEALOUS OF YOUR BEARD AND YOUR HAIR, JUST TO BE HONEST.
I'LL BE HONEST, I'M GOING THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THANKS FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU, ERIC. ANYBODY ELSE? HOW'S IT GOING? MY NAME IS HARRY ENGLISH, I LIVE 5608 BRENT DRIVE IN HALTOM CITY, TEXAS.
I'VE WORKED WITH CAT FOR, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A YEAR NOW.
CURRENTLY IN THE COVID TIMES THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE BUSINESSES FALL OUT.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BUSINESS SURPLUS AND THE, YOU KNOW, MONEY THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S BEEN GIVING OUT PEOPLE, THE PPE LOANS AND EVERYTHING.
WE'VE SEEN A MILLION SHOPS OPEN.
MOST OF THEM AREN'T UP TO SPEED.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED SEEING SOME FALL.
WE'RE INTERESTED IN BRINGING SOMETHING TO BEDFORD THAT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE AREA.
WE'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
WE THINK WE'D BE A GOOD FIT, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE [INAUDIBLE] THINGS.
I SHOW UP AND IT'S LIKE 10 OR 11 IN THE MORNING.
EVERY ONE OF US IS 15 YEARS IN, AS HE TOUCHED ON.
WE'VE ALL WORKED THE BAR SCENES AND NONE OF US ARE INTERESTED.
IT'S A GREAT FIT FOR WHERE WE WANT TO BE, AND WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY SHENANIGANS.
WE JUST WANT TO COME TO WORK, DO OUR THING, PRODUCE GOOD PRODUCTS FOR GOOD PEOPLE AND BE
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ON OUR WAY. AND WE'D APPRECIATE IT, IF YOU'D LET US BRING THAT TO BEDFORD.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? GOING ONCE.
OK. SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
OH, WES, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO JUMP.
THAT'S RIGHT, CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD.
CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS BOUND BY BEDFORD COMMONS.
IT IS IN BEDFORD COMMONS. IT IS IN THE FOOTPRINT OF BEDFORD COMMONS AND IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING A MASTER DESIGN PLAN WORKED ON.
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR USE INSIDE THAT FOOTPRINT OF WHAT IS DESTINED TO BE A MUCH MORE EVOLVED DEVELOPMENT, WOULD THIS BE A FIT? THAT WOULD BE MY REAL QUESTION, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, BEDFORD COMMONS IS A SOON.
IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE ANSWER.
I MAY DEFER TO ANDREA A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT BEDFORD COMMONS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ISN'T THAT STILL LIKE IN A CONSULTANT DESIGN CONTRACT LEVEL? SO BEDFORD COMMONS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING IS IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR THE ENTIRE AREA, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PARCEL, THE PARCEL IN QUESTION AND THE PARCELS AROUND IT, THEY ALL ARE CURRENTLY LIVING UNDER THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OF BEDFORD COMMONS. SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS KIND OF THE CORE CENTRAL AREA OF BEDFORD COMMONS, WHICH IS CITY OWNED LAND, WHICH IS THE PART THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TOWARD DEVELOPING A MORE FINITE CONCEPT PLAN ON THAT.
SO THE INTENTION OF THE WHOLE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD AND THAT PARTICULAR CORE AREA IS OBVIOUSLY TO DO SOMETHING UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.
THERE WILL BE A MIXED USE COMPONENT, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THERE.
AND YES, WE ARE HOPING TO ELEVATE THAT AREA, IF YOU WILL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS THE COMPATIBILITY, THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AS IT EXISTS AND AS IT WILL LOOK IN THE FUTURE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS, BOUTIQUE RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, SOME OFFICE, SOME COMMON PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, FARMER'S MARKET TYPE THINGS, PLANNED ACTIVE GREEN SPACE IN THOSE AREAS.
AND THAT WAS WHAT WILL BE WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND HOPEFULLY THEN THAT WILL ALSO BLEED OUT INTO THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO BUT THAT'S REALLY I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW WE ARE OPERATING UNDER THAT ZONING AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, AND THIS USE IS ALLOWED WITH SUP APPROVAL.
OK, WELL, I KNEW WE WERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DEFINING WHAT THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO BE WITH ALL THE APPROVALS AND THE CONTRACT FOR DEVELOPMENT DESIGN.
MR. I LIVED ON FOREST RIDGE AM I GOING TO BE TOO CLOSE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE? NO. OK. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? THANK YOU WES.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY? I THINK IT'S THAT THE COUNCIL PROBABLY NEEDS TO MAKE THAT DECISION. OKAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST, RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCILS, SO IF YOU GUYS ARE READY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IF YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND. JUST SAY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR RECOMMEND.
YEAH I RECOMMEND THAT WE SEND THIS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
[INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND WHAT THE 1809 AIRPORT FREEWAY FOR THE TATTOO SHOP.
IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH FOR THE GIRLS I GO OUT WITH.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE. CHAIRMAN DAVIS.
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WELL, WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY AND COUNCIL IS YOUR NEXT STEP.AND I LOVE THE WAY YOU GUYS YOUR PASSION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK Y'ALL.
OKAY, ON TO THE NEXT, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR
[5. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation for a Specific Use Permit to allow the use of a package liquor store on property legally described as Lot 1A Block 1 The Oaks Addition, generally located on the north side of Airport Freeway, between Forest Ridge Drive and Parkwood Drive and more commonly known as 1701 Airport Freeway (PZ-SUP-2022-50003)]
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE USE OF PACKAGED LIQUOR STORE ON PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 1 A BLOCK 1 THE OAKS.THIS IS THE SAME SUBDIVISION THE SAME LOT.
I WAS LIKE, WHOA SAME SUBDIVISION.
OH, LOT 1 A THE OAKS ADDITION, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AIRPORT FREEWAY BETWEEN FOREST RIDGE DRIVE AND PARKWOOD DRIVE MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1701 AIRPORT FREEWAY PZ-SUP-2022-50003 STAFF, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.
AS YOU'VE NOTED, THIS IS THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER AS THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
AND THIS ONE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE, THE FARTHEST WEST SIDE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, AGAIN LOCATED AT BEDFORD COMMONS PUD AND AGAIN, A PACKAGE STORE LIQUOR RETAIL STORE THIS DOES REQUIRE AN SUP FOR THE BEDFORD COMMONS ZONING DISTRICT.
YOU'RE GOING TO FIND MY PRESENTATION IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE.
AGAIN, JUST REMINDING YOU THE PURPOSE OF AN SUP AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS A PROPOSED USE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES.
WE REALLY COVERED THIS SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT BRIEFLY.
BUT AGAIN, SURROUNDING USES HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE THE LAST APPLICATION.
AND WE ALSO NOTIFIED WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, WHICH RESULTED IN FIVE PROPERTY OWNERS BEING NOTIFIED. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE BACK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST.
TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
TAKE ACTION YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS IF YOU SO SEE FIT FOR APPROVAL OR YOU CAN ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
PARKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SUITE, IT SEEMS THERE'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE TWO OR THREE PARKING SPOTS ANYWHERE IN CONJUNCTION TO THIS.
WHENEVER YOU'RE COUNTING PARKING, DO YOU CONSIDER PARKING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE EAST OF THIS CENTER? IT'S ALL ONE LOT IT'S ALL ONE SHOPPING CENTER SO ALL THE PARKING COUNTS.
ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE A PRETTY GOOD.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONTIGUOUS OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE BUSINESS NECESSARILY.
SO DO THE MULTIPLE TENANTS TO PIGGYBACK ALL COMBINED MEET PARKING.
BECAUSE IT IS BY USE, ISN'T IT? YES. OKAY, COOL.
BECAUSE THAT WESTERN END? I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD AND WE LOOK AT THAT ANY TIME A WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT FOR AN APPLICATION. OBVIOUSLY, THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION AND THIS APPLICATION.
WE ALSO LOOK AT IT WHEN THE CO COMES IN WE LOOK AT ALL THE USES AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING TO RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR END OF THE LITTLE STRIP CENTER, THERE RIGHT IN FRONT WHERE THIS IS, IS A DROP OFF OF THE PAVEMENT TO THE EXIT.
I MEAN, AND THEN THE SIDE OF IT TO THE FAR WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS THE SERVICE ACCESS TO AROUND THE BACK.
NEXT TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGENCY, THERE REALLY ISN'T ONLY TWO SPACES IN FRONT OF THIS ELEVATED ENTRANCE AT THAT END OF THE BUILDING.
RIGHT. IT'S JUST PRETTY TIGHT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S REALLY A GREAT SPOT FOR A RETAIL LOCATION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE EAST PAST THE RESTAURANT OVER ALMOST TO CARTER BLOOD CENTER BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE A PLACE TO PARK AND THEN WALK TO THE END TO A RETAIL SHOP AS OPPOSED TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGENCY, THAT WOULD BE BY APPOINTMENT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF FLOW, SO I'M NOT SURE THIS IS A GREAT SPOT FOR A, YOU KNOW, PURELY RETAIL LOCATION AS OPPOSED TO AN OFFICE USE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT'S A, IT WOULD BE A TOUGH CORNER.
YEAH. AND AS YOU SAY, IT'S COMPLETELY A LEGITIMATE CONCERN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS APPLICATION. YEAH, AND NEW YEAR'S EVE, ABOUT 7:30 WOULD BE ABOUT THE TIME.
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[LAUGHTER] AND YOU'VE GOT SPECS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND GOODY GOODY'S TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THAT. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE FREEWAY.YEAH. IT'S JUST ALL GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] SAME [INAUDIBLE].
ALL RIGHT. IS IT ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE? IN THAT THAT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED. YES.
BUT YOU HAVE SPECS AND GOODY GOODY'S WITHIN A BLOCK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
IF YOU'RE DRIVING EAST, OR WEST.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE BUSINESS.
IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROPOSED SUP WE WOULD WELCOME THAT.
OKAY. WELL, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SUP-2022-50003 . IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? PLEASE COME AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND.
HI, JACOB WEBB 3804 HACKBERRY LANE IN BEDFORD, TEXAS 76021 OBVIOUSLY.
DOWN HERE IS GOOD? OR JUST POINT IT UP. YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
OK, I WANT TO STATE FOR TO NOTE THAT I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST LIQUOR STORES, NOTHING AGAINST THEM AT ALL. BUT AS YOU SAID, THERE IS A GOODY GOODY RIGHT THERE AND A SPECS SOON TO BE OPENING IN A MONTH.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A LIQUOR DEPOT, ANOTHER LIKE TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD.
ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST LIQUOR STORES.
BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT ONCE WE APPROVE THE LIQUOR LICENSE, WHICH I TOTALLY WAS FOR, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF THESE LIQUOR STORES POPPING UP.
SO ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS.
IT'S JUST WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE IN THE AREA AND JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
NICE TO BE WEARING SHORTS TODAY ISN'T IT.
[LAUGHTER] EMMA QUIGLEY, SORRY, MY DAD FORGOT ABOUT THE MEETING, ALSO 3804 HACKBERRY LANE.
THAT'S MY HUSBAND AND I ACTUALLY JUST MAPPED IT FROM WHERE HE'S LOOKING AT IS .7 MILES.
IT'S ACTUALLY WALKABLE TO THE OTHER LIQUOR STORE.
SO THAT'S ALSO WHY I'M NOT REALLY LIKE HE SAID, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST LIQUOR STORES. IT JUST SEEMS REALLY SILLY TO HAVE A SPECS RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN WHICHEVER WHICHEVER ONE I JUST, GOODY GOODY WALKABLE BECAUSE IT'S AROUND THE CORNER AND THEN THE LIQUOR DEPOT THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE.
I DON'T. IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO USE THAT, AND I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION BECAUSE, YEAH, IT'S NOT A HUGE PARKING LOT AND THERE'S ALREADY LIKE THREE RESTAURANTS THERE.
I'M ALL FOR THE TATTOO PARLOR, THOUGH.
PRETTY EXCITED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOT FOR TATTOOS, BUT I'D GET ANOTHER PIERCING, BUT I'M NOT REALLY INTO HAVING ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE IN THAT AREA ANYWAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. QUIGLEY. ANYBODY ELSE? APPLICANT'S NOT HERE.
THE APPLICANT CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK.
SO WITH NO MORE RESPONSES, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO DISCUSS A LITTLE.
AND THE PARKING GOODY GOODY'S AND IT'S NEXT TO SPECS.
THERE'S YEAH ON THE HILL THERE, BUT THAT SHOPPING CENTER ON THE MAP THAT HE'S GOT OUT THERE THE ENTIRE ROAD, NEXT TO THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF IT, ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY.
NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY HAS GOT NOT A SINGLE CAR [INAUDIBLE].
YEAH. TWO YEAH BECAUSE ON THE FREEWAY SIDE OF THAT PARKING LOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THERE, THERE AREN'T PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE EXIT.
SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S A TIGHT CORNER AND MY WIFE AND I EAT AT THAT CHINESE RESTAURANT IN THAT STRIP AND HAVE BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHEN NEITHER OF THE RESTAURANTS OR THE BARS ARE REALLY THE BIG ONES, THEY'RE FROGGIES OR WHATEVER TOADIES IS RUNNING THAT PARKING LOT'S ALREADY FULL AND THOSE BUSINESSES AREN'T THAT BUSY.
I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S A TIGHT CORNER IN THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM.
PLUS, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL SPOT.
AND PARKING IS SOMETHING THAT'S COVERED BY THE ORDINANCES.
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IT IS.IN FACT, IF THERE'S THREE LIQUOR STORES WITHIN A CLOSE AREA THERE, I THINK THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SURVIVE OR NOT PROBABLY WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION FAIRLY SOON.
SO MY THOUGHT WAS THAT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON THAT CORNER.
I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT A FULL SCALE RETAIL SPOT AS OPPOSED TO AN OFFICE OR SOMETHING BY APPOINTMENT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I LOOK AT TRAFFIC FLOW COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE AND PARKING, IT JUST SO MAKES ME WONDER HOW VIABLE THAT REALLY IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ASK THESE QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR WHAT WAS IN THAT SUITE BEFORE.
YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN VACANT OR BALLPARK.
I THINK IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN TALKING TO THE LANDLORD, I DO GET THE FEELING IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO AMONGST US, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE POTENTIAL PROPRIETOR OF THIS STORE IS THE ONE TAKING THE RISK OF BEING CLOSE TO BIGGER, FANCIER STORES.
ANYWAY. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE AND THAT I GO IN AND I LEAVE, I DON'T HANG OUT.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S, YOU KNOW, I COME THERE WITH A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
NO, I GET IT. I JUST I'VE BEEN BY THE SITE SEVERAL TIMES AND REALLY KIND OF SHARE THAT, THAT IT'S IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO JUST DRIVE UP AND DRIVE IN FRONT OF THAT AND PARK IN FRONT OF IT, THE ODDS ARE PRETTY LOW THAT YOU GET TO DO THAT.
BUT IF IT MEETS THE ORDINANCE, HOW DO WE DISAPPROVE IT? YEAH, WE CAN'T JUST AS A USE.
YEAH, NO. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT IS. IF I NOT TO INTERJECT, I JUST THIS IS WHERE WE GET CONFUSED ON SUPS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
YES, IT MEETS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT THE USE IS NOT PERMITTED.
THE USE IS ONLY PERMITTED IF YOU GIVE IT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
ADOPTED IN THIS CASE, THE BEDFORD COMMONS PUD WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT PACKAGE STORES LIQUOR STORES MAY BE A GOOD USE IN THIS PUD.
HOWEVER, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SITE TO SEE IF IT'S A GOOD USE.
IT'S KIND OF DEPENDENT UPON IF THE SITE MEETS WHAT WE THINK IS A GOOD USE FOR THAT LOCATION. SO AND WHEN I SAY WE THAT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THAT'S ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY THE APPLICATION IS COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO THE USE ISN'T A GIVEN, IT'S NOT BY RIGHT.
IT DOES MEET THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE.
BUT YOU, AS A BODY, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF THIS USE IS GOOD FOR THIS LOCATION.
THAT'S GOOD OR BAD, THAT'S I'M JUST SAYING IT'D BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING IF THEY'RE MEETING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE AREAS.
ANYBODY ELSE? I MEAN, I'LL SAY THAT I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BUSINESS BEING LIKE FARTHER DOWN IN THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, FARTHER TO THE EAST, YOU KNOW.
NEXT DOOR TO THE TATTOO PARLOR.
[LAUGHTER] GOING TO BE JUST SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR US IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TOUGH CORNER.
I WISH IT WAS. IF IT WAS FARTHER DOWN IN THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SEEM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BETTER. BUT THAT'S I JUST WOULDN'T IDENTIFY THAT FOR EVERYBODY WHAT THAT END OF THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE JUST.
OUR OPINION, WHETHER IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE SITE OR NOT.
AND THINGS HAVE BEEN VACANT A WHILE, THAT'S.
I WAS GOING TO SAY AGAIN, COUNCIL AND I MEAN, NOT EVERYTHING IS A PERFECT USE, BUT IT'S A USE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND IT WOULD BRING REVENUE INTO THE CITY AND IT'S IN A SHOPPING CENTER WITH TWO BARS.
SO LIQUOR IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
THOSE WERE MY THOUGHTS, SO I GUESS ANY MORE DISCUSSION, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE YOUR
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MOTION. I'M READY.YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THOUGHT THAT WHEN YOU MENTIONED TATTOO PARLOR.
SURE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE FROM THE APPLICANT WITH PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION? YES. WAS THERE? THEY GAVE A REAL NICE NARRATIVE.
THEY WERE GOING TO CLOSE AT 10 AND MAYBE 11 ON THE WEEKENDS? THAT WAS THE TATTOO PLACE, THOUGH I MEANT THE LIQUOR STORE.
OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIQUOR STORE. LIQUOR STORES CLOSE AT 9:00 THAT'S A LAW.
YOU CAN'T SELL LIQUOR AFTER 9:00 P.M.
YOU CAN SELL BEER AND WINE, BUT NOT LIQUOR.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S KIND OF DEPRESSING.
WELCOME TO [LAUGHTER]. SOUNDS LIKE CALIFORNIA.
I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU GO TO IDAHO IT'S ON THE GROCERY STORE SHELVES.
OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT CASE PZ-SUP-2022-50003. OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL. RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
I'LL SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE.
NAY. SO WHAT DO WE DO? IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE AND MR. ATTORNEY, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S A TIE VOTE IS ESSENTIALLY A NO VOTE.
YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE MOTION FAILS, SO THE APPLICATION IS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
OKAY, SO BUT WE STILL ARE ONLY A RECOMMENDING BODY AND COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD.
DO YOU KNOW COUNCIL DATE? OH I FORGOT TO TELL THE OTHER APPLICANTS, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE AWARE.
WE CAN'T BE THE 22ND. OK, MARCH 8TH.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY OVERRIDE US OR THEY CAN AGREE WITH US. SO HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS.
THEY'LL TAKE OUR NOTES AND LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I MOVE WE ADJOURN THE MEETING FOR THE EVENING.
GOOD MEETING. YEAH THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.