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AND NOW OPEN THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BOAT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AND NOW ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SILENCE ALL YOUR SMARTPHONES, PAGERS, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE NOISE THAT MIGHT GET IN THE WAY OF OUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
UM, WE START OUT WITH AN INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, THE, THE FLAGS OVER THERE IN THE CORNER, UM, WOULD ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS VOLUNTEER TO DO THE INVOCATION.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN.
UM, IF YOU GO HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE THIS BODY WITH YOUR WISDOM TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND GRANT ALL THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
AND THESE CHAMBERS GOD'S GRACE, AS WE DELIBERATE AND COME TOGETHER TO WORK IN YOUR DEED IN HIS NAME, WE PRAY.
I PLAY THE
USUALLY OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING, BUT, UH, THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA AND THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED.
SO UNLESS IT WAS JUST ALL AN INCREDIBLE DREAM, IT'LL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL GO RIGHT.
[1. Conduct a public hearing and consider a Final Plat of Lot A-R1, Block A of the Plaza Center Addition, being a replat of Tract A-R of the Plaza Center and a portion of Lot 4, Block A of the Bedford Plaza Addition, commonly known as 1850 Central Drive, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 0.960 acres of land. The property is generally located at the southeast corner of Central Drive and Plaza Parkway. (PZ-RP-2021-50076)]
GREAT.ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DIVE RIGHT INTO OUR, UM, APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING.
OUR FIRST ONE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A FINAL PLAN OF LOT A DASH R ONE BLOCK AT THE PLAZA CENTER.
ADDITION BEING A REPLAT OF TRACK, A DASH R OF THE PLAZA CENTER, AND A PORTION OF LOT FOUR BLOCKADE OF THE BEDFORD PLAZA EDITION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1850 CENTRAL DRIVE BEDFORD, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF 0.9 600 ACRES OF LAND.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CENTRAL DRIVE IN PLAZA PARKWAY.
DID EVERYBODY GET THAT OR DO I NEED TO REPEAT UNTIL YOU CAN GET ALL THE DETAILS STRAIGHT? OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S AN INSIDE JOKE, BUT THEY GET A LOT EIGHT DASH R DASH ARWAN STEP PRESENTATION, MORRIS MORRISON.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS.
THIS IS A REPLAT, UH, PROPERTY IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS TODAY AS THE, UH, FUTURE CHICK-FIL-A SITE.
UM, IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AIRPORT FREEWAY, EAST OF CENTRAL DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLAT, UH, PRIMARILY WAS TO, THERE WERE, UH, TWO ADJACENT RUNAWAYS THAT WERE ABANDONED, UH, THROUGH THE CHICK-FIL-A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO WE'RE JUST CLEANING UP THEIR PLANTS.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT THREE PLAT THE, UM, AS JOEL KNOW, ALL REPLANTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
HOWEVER, SINCE THIS IS A NON-RESIDENTIAL REPLY, WE DID NOT DO ANY PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THAT.
THAT'S NOT REQUIRED PER STATE LAW.
SO IT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT THAT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ANY COMMENT THAT'S, UH, THERE.
HOWEVER, IT DOES MEET ALL OF OUR STANDARDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND OF OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE.
SO YOU MUST APPROVE THE PLAT TONIGHT SO I CAN EAT ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REGARDING THIS COMMISSION, MAYA.
WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE, THERE ARE TWO ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
IF YOU LOOK THERE ON THE SCREEN, THAT TWO CIRCLES IN RED ARE ADJACENT RUNAWAYS THAT WERE ABANDONED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO WE'RE JUST CLEANING UP THE PLANET ACCORDING TO THOSE RUNAWAY ABANDONMENTS.
I REMEMBER THAT FROM THE ORIGINAL PATIENT, WHATEVER, TO SAVE A PORTION OF EACH OF THOSE LANES, I THOUGHT ANY THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION WAS THAT DONE THERE IN THE SITE PLAN PRESENTATION, POSSIBLY.
THIS IS JUST THE REPLAT FORMALIZING THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION REGARDING, UH, OUR NUMBER ONE TONIGHT? MR. CHEVY, IF I COULD ASK YOU TO, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, SORRY.
WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK REGARDING THE APPLICATION.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY I'M OFF MY GAME TONIGHT, BUT I REALLY WAS FOCUSED COMING IN FOR THIS, BUT OKAY.
UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE APPLICATION TO MINISTER? OH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT, A BLOT, A R ONE BLOCK.
HEY, THE PLAZA CENTER EDITION.
UM, ITEM NUMBER PZ RP DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 5 0 0 7 6.
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YOU, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN.DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU.
UH, ANDREA, MAY ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
CAN YOU OR CARLSON VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIS COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN.
I THANK COMMISSIONER HENDERSON.
[2. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone property legally described as Lot 1, Block 1 of Whisperwood Center Addition, located at 3600 Hardwood Road, Bedford, Texas, from Heavy Commercial (H) within the Master Highway Corridor to Heavy Commercial (H) within the Master Highway Corridor /Specific Use Permit/Office Showroom, specific to Section 3.2.C(12)p of the City of Bedford Zoning Ordinance, allowing an office showroom use to operate. The property is generally located at the southeast corner of Harwood Road and State Highway 121. (PZ-SUP-2021-50079)]
ALRIGHT.MOVING RIGHT ALONG CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY.
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK, ONE OF WHISPER WOODS CENTER EDITION LOCATED AT 3,600 HEARTWOOD ROAD, BEDFORD, TEXAS FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL AGE WITHIN THE MASTER HIGHWAY CORRIDOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OFFICE SHOWROOM SPECIFIC TO SECTION 3.2 POINT C 12 P OF THE CITY OF BEDFORD ZONING ORDINANCE.
ALLOWING AN OFFICE SHOWROOM USE TO OPERATE THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARDWOOD ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY 1 21, CASE 5 0 0 0 7 9 WEST STAFF PRESENCE.
THANK YOU, MS. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS, AS ALREADY STATED THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3,600 HARDWOOD ROAD LOCATED IN OUR HEAVY, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE SITE.
IT'S ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AS A WALMART, UH, RETAIL CENTER, UH, BACK IN LATE EIGHTIES, APPROXIMATELY 85,000 SQUARE FEET TONIGHT, THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AN OFFICE SHOWROOM USE.
SO IN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THAT DOES REQUIRE A SPECIFIC SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UM, ROCK ISLAND, UH, AUCTION COMPANY IS WANTING TO DEVELOP THE SITE AS THEIR OFFICE SHOWROOM FOR HISTORIC FIREARMS AND MILITIA TYPE, UH, ITEMS. AND THEN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL, AS Y'ALL KNOW, ON ALL SPECIAL USE PERMITS, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINES THE USE AND THEN IDENTIFIES ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT MUST BE APPLIED TO IT.
IN THIS CASE, THE CONDITION IS THAT THE STORAGE AREAS, WHILE IT'S EXPECTED, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LARGER THAN YOUR TYPICAL RETAIL USES.
IT STILL CAN NOT EXCEED 50% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE APPLICANT STATED IN THEIR BACKUPS THAT THEY PROVIDED YOU, THAT THEY DON'T INTEND TO OCCUPY MORE THAN 40% OF THE BUILDING FOR STORAGE.
SO THEY MEET THAT CONDITION ALREADY SURROUNDING LAND USES TO THE NORTH.
YOU HAVE A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER AND RELIGIOUS FACILITIES TO THE SOUTH.
YOU HAVE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ONE ON DEVELOPED LOT TO THE EAST, AND THEN MORE STRIP SHOPPING CENTER TO THE WEST.
AGAIN, PICTURES TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A STRAIGHT CONTEXT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AS YOU'LL KNOW, WE DO A 200 FOOT RADIUS, UH, NOTIFICATION FOR ALL SUP REQUESTS THAT INCLUDED 21, UM, NOTIFYING 21 PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE ALSO PLACED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AS OF TO DATE.
WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS, A RESPONSE BACK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST TONIGHT YOU'RE CONDUCTING YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, YOU WILL TAKE ACTION ON MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS.
YOUR ACTION CAN BE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, RECOMMEND APPROVAL CONDITIONS.
THIS IS AN SUP YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADD CONDITIONS.
IF YOU THINK THE SITE NEEDS IT TO, UM, BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THEN YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS, HAVE QUESTIONS TO STAFF? THE APPLICANT IS HERE JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND THEY DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO MAKE GREAT.
SO AS THE APPLICATION FOR THE OLD WALMART BUILDING ITSELF, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT MAKES REFERENCE TO THE STRIP MALL AND THE, YEAH, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ON THE SCREEN.
WE STILL SHOW YOU A BETTER PICTURE EVEN THERE ON THE SCREEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UH, THE APPLICATION WOULD BE APPLIED TO JUST THE WALMART BUILDING AND FORMER WALMART BUILDING ITSELF.
IT IS A SEPARATE LOT AND IT IS SEVERED OUT SEPARATELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU GUYS.
AT THIS TIME WE ASKED THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY A FEW WORDS IF THEY WOULD LIKE, UH, REGARDING THE APPLICATION OR THE PROJECT WITHIN IT.
UM, UH, WHEN YOU DO SO PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS.
YOU'RE NOT ON THE MAILING LIST AND TELL US ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE ABOUT THE PROJECT, PLEASE.
UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT.
I GUESS I SHOULD SAY Y'ALL, UH, I AM FROM ILLINOIS CURRENTLY.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 7 1 5 TURKEY HOLLOW ROAD, TAYLOR RIDGE, ILLINOIS FOR NOW.
UM, ARE WE LOADED UP WITH THE PRESENTATION? OKAY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I'M, I'M KEVIN HOGAN.
MY FATHER PAT, UH, IS HERE AS WELL.
WE ARE ROCK ISLAND AUCTION COMPANY.
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WE ARE, UH, WE'RE A FAMILY BUSINESS FIRST AND FOREMOST.I'D SAY WE'RE A BIG SMALL BUSINESS.
UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE 155 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, BUT WE, WELL I'LL, I'LL GET TO IT.
UM, ESTABLISHED IN 1993, DAD WAS A SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR.
UH, WE STARTED OUT AT AN 800 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE, UH, IN 2002, WE BECAME THE NUMBER ONE IN OUR FIELD, UH, FOR WHAT WE DO.
AND WE'VE HELD THAT FOR 19 CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF OUR EXISTING FACILITY.
UH, THIS YEAR 2021 WILL BE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES, UH, WHICH WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF.
AND IT'S, IT'S TAKEN US 28 YEARS TO GET THERE.
UM, BUT THIS NEXT SLIDE REALLY DEMONSTRATES GREAT, UM, A BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES, 28 YEARS, BUT WE DID 10% OF THAT THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO DO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN SALES THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME.
UH, WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, IT KIND OF, IT POINTS OUT A FEW BIG MOMENTS IN OUR HISTORY.
UH, WE MOVED IN 2001 THAT GOES BACK TO 2004.
WE MOVED FROM OUR 800 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE TO A, A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
AND THEN IN 2008, WE ACTUALLY HAD AN ADD ON TO THAT BUILDING, UH, IN 2011, UH, WE, WE ALMOST QUADRUPLED IN SIZE.
WE WENT TO AN 86,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE GROWTH, UM, AND IT MIRRORS SOME OF THESE BIG DEVELOPMENTS FOR US.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR HERE.
UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE DO THREE TYPES OF AUCTION VENUES.
WE DO OUR PREMIERE FIREARM SALE, WHICH IS THE FLAGSHIP OF ANTIQUE AND COLLECTIBLE FIREARMS, NOT JUST HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IN THE WORLD.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD FOR 20 YEARS THIS YEAR.
UH, SO THAT WE DO THOSE THREE TIMES A YEAR AND THEIR THREE-DAY EVENTS.
UH, WE DO WHAT WE CALL OUR SPORTING AND COLLECTOR SALE.
WE DO THOSE THREE TIMES A YEAR AND THEY WERE EITHER THREE OR FOUR DAY EVENTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL OUR ARMS AND ACCESSORIES DAY SALES.
THOSE HAPPENED BY, UM, WE DO THEM EVERY MONTH AND, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ONE DAY, UH, UH, AUCTIONS.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A PHOTO OF OUR EXISTING PREVIEW HALL FACILITY, BUT WHY WE SAY PRESENTATION'S IMPORTANT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE, WE BUILT THE BUSINESS ON PRESENTATIONS, IMPORTANT QUALITIES IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF TAGLINES.
ONE WE SAY, NOT ALL ART IS FRAMED, BUT TWO HISTORY LIVES HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A MINUTE, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT OUR SHOWROOM LOOKS LIKE.
CURRENTLY IT CHANGES WITH EACH AUCTION.
EACH AUCTION SET UP CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO SIX WEEKS TO SET UP.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT QUALITY.
UM, HERE'S A PHOTO OF OUR EXISTING AUCTION HALL RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, ALL THE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE THERE.
UH, I HAVE SOME MORE PHOTOS OF OUR EXISTING FACILITY LATER ON, BUT, UH, WE'RE INTERNATIONAL.
SO WE HAVE 26 COUNTRIES PARTICIPATE IN 2021 SO FAR, TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT 33.
UM, HERE'S A EXAMPLE OF OUR DIGITAL FOOTPRINT.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON, ON FACEBOOK, WE HAVE 30,000 FOLLOWERS, INSTAGRAM 56,000 FOLLOWERS.
BUT OUR, OUR REAL KEYSTONE IS, UH, YOUTUBE 9.2 MILLION VIEWS, 46,000 SUBSCRIBERS.
WE HAVE 946 VIDEOS POSTED THAT'S 600,000 HOURS OF WATCH TIME.
I'D ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO CHECK THAT OUT BECAUSE WE PUT A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THE PRESENTATION ITSELF.
AS I SAID, HISTORY LIVES HERE.
SO, UH, OUR RECORD SETTING SAIL THE MOST EXPENSIVE OBJECT WE EVER SOLD.
UH, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A PIECE OF CHAIN MAIL.
UH, THIS WAS, WE DISCOVERED THIS AND IT WAS 2014 OR 2015.
THAT'S WHEN I WENT TO THE BIG 10 CHAMPIONSHIP.
AND I REMEMBER THAT, UM, BUT THIS WAS DISCOVERED IN A CLOSET IN SAN FRANCISCO AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A FORGOTTEN TREASURE.
UM, AND WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO OUR SHOP.
ACTUALLY, WE FOUND IT, IT WAS IN, UH, IT WAS IN A GARBAGE CAN THAT HAD THE TOP REMOVED AND IT WAS SITTING IN THERE ON A, ON A PEDESTAL MOUNTAIN.
THE T-SHIRT UNDER IT WAS, AND THIS IS NO KIDDING WAS A LEONARD SKINNER SHIRT UNDERNEATH IT.
UM, AND WE BROUGHT THAT BACK TO OUR SHOP AND WE STARTED DOING OUR RESEARCH, START DOING OUR HOMEWORK.
AND, UH, THE SHIRT WAS PRESENTED TO THE SULTAN OF EGYPT AND 1450 WHEN EGYPT WAS SACKED BY THE TURKS, UH, IT WAS THEN PUT ON THEIR ARMORY AND PUT ON DISPLAY, UM, UNTIL WE REDISCOVERED AGAIN.
UM, AND WE SOLD THAT FOR $2.3 MILLION.
AND THAT, THAT IS NOW AT THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART.
IT WAS NAMED THEIR ACQUISITION OF THE YEAR IN 2016.
UH, SO WE'RE AWFULLY PROUD OF THAT AND IT IS A REALLY COOL SALE.
AND WE SOLD, WE SOLD THIS FARM LAST YEAR.
THIS WAS PRESENTED TO OUR 26TH PRESIDENT, THEODORE ROOSEVELT, UH, KIND OF A FRESH DISCOVERY AS WELL, CAME OUT OF CALIFORNIA, UH, THAT SOLD FOR 1.4, 6 MILLION ALEXANDER HAMILTON'S HOLSTER PISTOLS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO HIM BY HIS FATHER-IN-LAW.
UH, THEN HE CARRIED THROUGHOUT THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
WE SOLD THOSE THIS YEAR, UH, FOR $1.1 MILLION.
UH, JOHN WAYNE, WE SOLD THIS, UH, JUST THREE MONTHS AGO AND THAT DID 517,000, BUT THIS WAS HIS FAVORITE.
THIS WAS HIS FAVORITE GUN THAT HE USED.
HE USED IT IN A TRUE GRIT AND A NUMBER OF HIS OTHER FAMOUS TITLES.
UM, ANDY OAKLEY'S MARLON 1893 GOLDEN LIGHT PRESENTED TO HER, UH, THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
AND THIS WAS THE FORMER WORLD RECORD FOR A SINGLE FIREARM AT AUCTION.
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THIS WAS THE DANISH SEA CAPTAIN COLT WALKER.SO, UH, THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS RECENTLY NAMED THE COLT WALKER, THE OFFICIAL REVOLVER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UM, AND THIS IS THE FINEST EXAMPLE OF A CIVILIAN GUN KNOWN.
IT WAS STILL NUMBER 10 22, UH, AND THAT WAS THE WORLD RECORD SOLD FOR $1.8 MILLION.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP HERE IN DECEMBER.
WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THIS WILL GO DOWN AS OUR RECORD BREAKING SALE.
THIS WAS A GARNITURE OF ARMS PRESENTED TO THEN GENERAL NAPOLEON BONAPARTE IN 1797 BY THE, UH, FRENCH COUNCIL.
UH, THE SWORD IS THE ONE THAT BONAPARTE CARRIED, UH, WHEN HE STORMED ST CLOUD AND DECLARED HIMSELF FIRST COUNCIL.
SO IT'S A, IT'S AN IMMENSELY HISTORIC OBJECT.
THE MAKER ITSELF WAS THE REALLY THE FINEST GUN MAKER THAT EVER LIVED, UH, NICHOLAS NOEL BOOTAY.
UM, SO THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR CURRENT WORLD HEADQUARTERS, AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING UP TOP 86,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AND THEN THREE YEARS AGO, WE, UH, WE, WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS 64,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE 150,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER ROOF RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE IN LITTLE OLD ROCK ISLAND, ILLINOIS.
SO DON'T THINK CHICAGO, WE'RE 160 MILES WEST OF CHICAGO.
WE'RE RIGHT ON THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER IN BETWEEN, UH, ILLINOIS AND IOWA.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR CURRENT WAREHOUSE AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING'S VERY CLEAN, WELL LIT AND ORGANIZED.
THIS IS AGAIN, UM, OUR, OUR PREVIEW FLOOR HERE.
AGAIN, IT CHANGES DEPENDING ON THE AUCTION, BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THAT.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 18,000 SQUARE FEET NOW.
AND WE ANTICIPATE WE NEED QUITE A LOT MORE, UH, HERE IN HERE IN BEDFORD, AGAIN, MORE PICTURES OF THE PREVIEW HALL ITSELF.
AGAIN, THE AUCTION HALL, THESE ARE PHONE BITTERS.
THESE ARE REPRESENTING PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
AND SO OF COURSE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, THE RE NOT ONLY THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT THE REVITALIZATION OF THIS, OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, IT'S 89,000 SQUARE FEET.
A FORMER WALMART IS, AS YOU GUYS ARE, ARE WELL AWARE.
UM, THE STRIP MALL IS 14 UNITS.
IT'S GOT EIGHT SUITES THAT ARE VACANT NOW, UH, BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU HAVE 12% OF THE CURRENT PROPERTIES LEASED AND MORE OR LESS DEFUNCT.
UM, AS, AS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN, IT'S NOTHING NEW.
THIS IS IN, THIS IS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WE SAW, YOU KNOW, A LONG, LONG HAUL TRUCKERS USING IT AS A, AS AN OVERNIGHT STAY.
UM, BUT WE PLAN, WE PLAN TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND TURN THIS INTO THE FINEST AUCTION, WHAT WE BELIEVE FINEST BRICK AND MORTAR AUCTION HALL IN THE WORLD.
UM, AGAIN, JUST CURRENT PHOTOS OF IT RUN DOWN, UH, SIGNS OF VAGRANTS BROKEN GLASS.
IT WAS, IT WAS BOTH BUILDINGS WERE SEVERELY DAMAGED.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THROUGHOUT DURING THE WINTER STORM LAST YEAR, A LOT OF PIPES BURSTED, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY EXPOSED DIRT, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN PART OF THE STRIP MALL.
SO OUR, OUR PLANS TWOFOLD IT'S IT'S TO USE AGAIN, TO, TO, TO BUILD THE FINEST BRICK AND MORTAR AUCTION HOUSE IN THE WORLD, AND THEN USE THAT STRIP MALL AS A VALUE ADD TO US, UH, WHICH IN TURN WE THINK IS A GREAT VALUE ADDED COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO, TO WORK WITH TENANTS AND, AND NOT BE SO CASH CONSCIENTIOUS, BUT REALLY BUILD IT AS A VALUE ADD TO THE BUILDING, UM, AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO BRING IN SOME GOOD, STRONG TENANTS THAT ARE THEY'RE EVALUATED TO US IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, ONE OF THOSE SUITES IN, IN THE STRIP MALL, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TOP RIGHT PHOTO.
I MEAN, I THINK THEIR MAIN PLUMBING BURST, AND THAT'S DOWN TO THE DIRT THERE'S HOLES IN THE WALL.
WE, THE WE'VE HAD THE ROOF INSPECTED.
IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A $700,000 ROOF CHANGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY WELL COMMITTED TO DOING THIS.
JUST MORE PHOTOS OF, AGAIN, DAMAGED FROM THE STORM.
UM, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, HERE'S JUST SOME RENDERINGS, BASIC RENDERINGS OF, OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO THE STRIP MALL AS IT SITS CURRENTLY, UH, WITH A NEW FACELIFT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE A BIG CATCH.
UM, BUT WE THINK CITY OF BEDFORD IS AS WELL.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YA.
AND, UM, NEW COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
DID YOU GET ANYTHING FOR THE VINTAGE LEONARD SKINNER T-SHIRT UNDERNEATH IT? NO, SIR.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA AND I DRIVE BY THE SITE EVERY DAY.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY GOOD HAPPENING TO THIS LOCATION.
AND, UM, I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
I'M ALSO WORKING ON THAT STRIP MODEL TO REVITALIZE THAT I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU HAVE THE, UM, AUCTION DAYS, THE MAJOR EVENTS, WILL YOU BE PUTTING ANYTHING IN THE PARKING LOT, STORAGE TENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, MA'AM NO EVERYTHING WILL BE CONTAINED WITH, UH, WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF.
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AND, UM, THEN THIS IS AN AUCTION ONLY.SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THE FIREARMS PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A SHOW WHERE PEOPLE BRING THEIR OWN FIREARMS AND CONSIGNMENT BASED AUCTION FROM YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
UM, ACTUALLY I'M SPELLING FOR STAFF, BUT HOLD ON.
SEE SOME OF THOSE STRIP MALL, YOU TOLD ME THE SUP'S FOR THE ACTUAL OLD WALMART BUILDING, BUT THEY'RE GETTING THE WHOLE SHEBANG UP TO A CERTAIN POINT ON THAT, ON THE STRIP OR THE WHOLE THING, INCLUDING THE COMIC BOOKSTORE AND FAVI AND ALL THE OTHER, WE'D LIKE TO DO A FIT.
THE SUP IS JUST FOR THE 800,000 SQUARE FOOT, BIG BOX, BUT NO, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL AGAIN, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE STRIP MALL ITSELF, BECAUSE IT NEEDS SERIOUS INVESTMENT TO IT TO ATTRACT THE KIND OF TENANTS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN.
UM, JUST LET YOU KNOW, UM, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PEOPLE CAN, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, THEY'LL COME UP AND TALK TO, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT MIGHT'VE COME UP FROM THEM.
UM, ALL RIGHT THEN, UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS THIS APPLICATION.
UM, GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR HOME ADDRESS AND ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.
CLEARLY YOU'RE NOT ALL HERE FOR THIS ONE.
UM, I'LL DO MY FIVE COUNT HERE AND THEN I'LL CLOSE IT.
UM, COMMISSIONER HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING IT? JUST A CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THERE WILL ALL BE AUCTIONS.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF RETAIL.
SO I CAN'T WALK IN AND GO, HEY, I NEED A BOX OF 38, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL.
AND W W WE WANT TO HAVE A SHOWROOM THAT'S MORE OR LESS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL AMMUNITION AND RELOADING EQUIPMENT WE WANT TO HAVE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION REGARDING APPLICATION.
SHOULD I SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER QUICK.
ROLL CALL CHAIRMAN CARLSON CHAIRMAN, DAVE DAVIS.
UH, WE ARE JUST RECOMMENDING BODY AN IMPORTANT ROLE, BUT CHOOSING TO BE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE MEETING NOVEMBER 23RD.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT JUST FYI, WE'RE USUALLY COLD BLOODED EFFICIENT MACHINE
[3. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone property legally described as Teeter Garrett Survey Abstract 1537, Tract 2D01 and Tract 2D and the east portion of Lot 1, Block 1 of the Woodland Heights Addition, commonly known as 2416 Cheek Sparger Road, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 8.655 acres, from Single-Family Residential Detached – 15,000 (R-15) Single-Family Residential Detached – 7,500 (R-75) to Planned Unit Development to allow a medium density age restricted duplex development. The property is generally located on the south side of Cheek Sparger Road, approximately 500 feet east of Central Drive. (PZ-PUD-2021-50046)]
NUMBER THREE, CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO PROBABLY SURVEY ABSTRACT 37 EAST DIVISION ROAD, BEDFORD, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF 8.6 ACRES FROM SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL 15,000 SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED CONFUSED DEVELOPMENT DENSITY, AGE[00:25:01]
RESTRICTED ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 556.I THINK THERE'S AN ANT MISSING AFTER 15 WASN'T TOO SURE.
UM, PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF
WE'LL GET INTO THAT AS STATED THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR 15 500 AND IS LOCATED IN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CHURCH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH UNDERSTOOD THE REQUEST IS TO ESTABLISH AN APD DISTRICT 67 68 PROSPECTIVE TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY LIMITED.
AND THIS WAS PROVIDED IN THE APPLICANT'S DEVELOPMENT OF SENIORS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE LIMITED INTO SINGLE STORY ATTACHED FOR 55 YEARS OR OLDER COMMUNITY CENTER CENTER, PROPOSAL STUDENTS EIGHT MINUTES, AND THEN MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 38 BUILDING SETBACKS, 20 FEET FRONT YARD, AND THE MAXIMUM COVERAGE.
THEY PROVIDES A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS REQUIRED OF ANY PD ZONING APPLICATION, JUST GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING SHOWS ACCESS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE ACCESS TO THE SITE THAT IS GOING TO BE FROM A CHEEK SPARGER THEY'VE ALSO STUBBED OUT, I BELIEVE A, UH, EGRESS, A FIRE EGRESS ACCESS TO MR.
AGAIN, A TOTAL LANDSCAPE BEING PROVIDED IS 14.
UH, I'M SORRY, 42%, UM, PARKING LOT REQUIREMENT, UH, LANDSCAPING, JUST SO YOU KNOW, CITY LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THE PARKING LOT ARE 10% PROVIDING 19%.
THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING A, UH, SIX FOOT, UH, I WOULDN'T PRIVACY SCREENING FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF SITE.
AND ALONG WITH, UH, CANOPY TREES TO BE PLANTED, UH, EVERY 30 FEET TO SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN ADJACENT USES.
TOTAL PARKING SPACES PROVIDED IS 155.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT THEIR EXTERIOR BUILDING CHARLES HAVE A MINIMUM OF 80% MASONARY PRODUCT.
Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE DUE TO RECENT LEGISLATION, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT, BUT THEY ARE PUTTING THAT IN THEIR PD AT THEIR OWN, UM, DECISION SURROUNDING LAND USES.
AGAIN, BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON THAT PRIMARILY TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.
YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, PRIMARILY DEVELOPED UNDER THE R 75 ZONING DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE A RELIGIOUS FACILITY TO THE WEST, AND THEN YOU HAVE RE REHABILITATION SITE TO THE WEST, A DAYCARE AND OFFICE USE.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS, UH, THE CITY OF COLLEYVILLE, UM, AND PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THE SITES.
OUR SURROUNDING USES ON THE SITE, AS I JUST WENT THROUGH, THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU WHAT, HOW THE SURROUNDING AREA IS BUILT OUT.
UM, WE DO A 200 FOOT NOTICE AND POST A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DONE.
IN THIS CASE, WE NOTIFIED 34 JOINING PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE'VE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE BACK THAT RESPONSE WAS IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BENEFIT TONIGHT, YOU ARE GOING TO CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
THIS IS A PD, SO YOU CAN APPROVE A CONDITIONS IF YOU SO SEE FIT, OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AS WELL.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS TO STAFF THAT YES.
UM, AT THIS TIME I WOULD, UH, ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD OR REPRESENTATIVE THEREOF.
AND IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR HOME ADDRESS, AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 3,200 RANKIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75 2 0 5.
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SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT, UM, A VIDEO UP, BUT AS WE, AS WE GET INTO THIS, I WAS JUST GOING TO KIND OF LEAD INTO WHAT IS EMERALD COTTAGES.AND, UM, IN A NUTSHELL, EMERALD COTTAGES IS AN AGE RESTRICTED, SINGLE STORY, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'RE A BEST IN CLASS OPERATOR AND, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS CONCEPT TO BEDFORD.
SO RIGHT NOW, UM, IF ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE PARENTS, UM, AND HAVE LOOKED IN INDEPENDENT LIVING, REALLY THE MAJORITY, ALMOST ALL OF INDEPENDENT LIVING IS IN AN APARTMENT STYLE MULTI-STORY COMMUNITY.
UH, THOSE APARTMENT STYLE COMMUNITIES SERVE THREE MEALS A DAY.
THEY HAVE A HOUSEKEEPING A WEEK, UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY POPULAR.
IT'S BEEN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AS, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THAT FOR MY PARENTS SPECIFICALLY, UM, THEY'D BEEN IN A SINGLES SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOME FOR MANY YEARS, UH, 50 YEARS, AND MY ABILITY TO GET THEM OUT OF THAT HOME INTO AN APARTMENT, WHICH THEY HADN'T LIVED IN SINCE THEY WERE IN THEIR TWENTIES WAS, UH, IT WAS A NON-STARTER.
SO, UH, WE, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD APPEAL TO MY PARENTS.
UM, AND I JUST THOUGHT IF, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT APPEALED TO THEM, MAYBE IT WOULD APPEAL TO OTHERS.
SO THE, THE CONCEPT BEHIND EMERALD COTTAGES IS A SINGLE STORY.
UM, LIKE A RESIDENTIAL HOME WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE.
UM, THESE COTTAGES ARE ABOUT 1300 SQUARE FEET FOR THE MOST PART, TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATH.
UM, THEY'RE SUPER NICE, REALLY, REALLY NICE.
IT GIVES THE, THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF A, OF A HOME.
AND THE NEXT PART OF THAT IS IT'S DISCRETIONARY.
SO WE'RE NOT REQUIRING OUR RESIDENTS TO EAT THREE MEALS A DAY AND HAVE A HOUSEKEEPING A WEEK.
UM, THEY CAN COOK IF THEY'D LIKE TO, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR KID'S HOUSE.
IF THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, THEY CAN GO EAT AT THEIR FAVORITE RESTAURANT IF THEY LIKE TO, AND NOT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE OR BURNING MONEY, BECAUSE THEY'VE PAID FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT USING IT.
UM, AS IT TURNED OUT, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY IN MCKINNEY AND STONEBRIDGE RANCH.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY IN KERRVILLE.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY IN ROUND ROCK.
UM, THIS, THIS CONCEPT HAS GROWN REALLY WELL PRIMARILY, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS.
WE'VE A HUNDRED PERCENT LEASED WITH WAIT LISTS IN EVERY LOCATION THAT WE EXIST IN.
AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT, UM, THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMING FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY ARE IN.
UM, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S PULLING A YOUNGER, SO YOUNGER IS A RELATIVE TERM, RIGHT? IN, IN THE INDEPENDENT LIVING COMMUNITIES.
THE AVERAGE AGE IS ABOUT 85 TO 87 86 AVERAGE.
UH, OUR COMMUNITY AVERAGE AGE IS 79.
AND, UM, THOSE RESIDENTS ARE COMING FROM THE COMMUNITIES WHERE WE BUILD, UH, AS THEY SEE AN END GAME, UH, A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO STAYING IN THEIR HOME.
AND THESE ARE RESIDENTS THAT USUALLY THE HOMES HAVE, UM, HAVE HAD SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO FIX IT UP.
THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP IT UP, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO, TO MOVE TO.
SO WE'VE COME IN, WE'VE GIVEN THEM A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO MOVE TO.
UM, AT LEAST IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE SERVE, WHICH IS THROUGHOUT TEXAS, THEY'VE, UM, BASICALLY CREATED A GENTRIFICATION PROCESS OF GETTING THESE HOMES ON THE MARKET, GETTING YOUNGER FAMILIES IN, GETTING THEM REDONE AND, UM, AND STIMULATING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEMSELVES.
SO, UH, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A, WIN-WIN, I'VE, I'VE CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIDESHOW HERE.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS.
UH, WE ARE RESIDENTIAL STYLE, SENIOR LIVING AS OPPOSED TO MULTI FAMILY STYLE.
THIS IS JUST, UM, INFORMATION THAT I'VE TOLD YOU DURING, DURING THIS THING.
SO I'LL CLICK THROUGH OUR FIRST COMMUNITY WAS BUILT IN 20.
IT OPENED IN 2016, IT WAS IN MCKINNEY AND STONEBRIDGE RANCH.
UH, JUST OFF THE CORNER OF ELDORADO AND ALMA, UM, WENT THROUGH QUITE A PROCESS, UH, TO MEET THE STONEBRIDGE RANCH STANDARDS, BUT THAT IS THE PICTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND MCKINNEY.
UM, THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF THE PICTURE OF THE COMMUNITY AND MCKINNEY.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT BECOMES THE HEARTBEAT OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE SOCIALIZATION PIECE TO KEEP EVERYBODY CONNECTED AND ACTIVE.
UM, IT, IT HELPS KEEP THEM YOUNG AND, AND GOING, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN PRETTY COOL.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF, UM, OUR COMMUNITY AND MCKINNEY.
SO ANOTHER PIECE THAT I DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH ON, BUT IS THAT EACH ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE LOCATED
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ADJACENT TO AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.UH, HERE IN BEDFORD IS THE ELM CROFT IS THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.
AND AS A RESULT OF BEING LOCATED NEXT TO AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER, WE CREATE WHAT I AFFECTIONATELY CALL AN UNBUNDLED SENIOR CAMPUS.
SO WE'RE NOT OWNED, UH, TOGETHER, WE'RE OWNED INDEPENDENTLY, BUT WE WORK SYNERGISTICALLY TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER.
SO AS OUR RESIDENTS COME IN, THEY AGE, THEY AGE OUT OF WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE WE, WE ARE A NON-SERVICE PROVIDERS PROVIDER, SO WE DON'T PROVIDE ANY NURSING CARE.
IT'S PURELY INDEPENDENT LIVING, BUT THINGS HAPPEN AS A SENIORS AGE.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST FOR US TO BE NEXT TO THE ASSISTED LIVING MEMORY CARE COMMUNITY SO THAT THE TRANSITION IS EASY AND EFFICIENT, AND IT'S LESS INTRUSIVE ON, ON THE FAMILY, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE SENIOR OR THEIR KIDS.
OUR SECOND COMMUNITY WAS IN KERRVILLE.
UH, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE GUADALUPE RIVER.
IF ANYBODY HERE HAS BEEN TO KERRVILLE, IT'S A GREAT SPOT IN TEXAS.
WE'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE RIVER HILL COUNTRY CLUB.
THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY IN KERRVILLE.
EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES FROM AN EXTERIOR PERSPECTIVE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT FROM A, FROM A FOOTPRINT PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE IDENTICAL.
SO THIS WAS, UM, CREATED TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER THAT WE'RE NEXT TO IN KERRVILLE, WHICH IS THE RIVER POINT.
UH, AGAIN, ANOTHER PICTURE OF KERRVILLE.
SO THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF, UH, CINCO DE MIO IN KERRVILLE, UH, THIS YEAR.
AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER THERE.
UH, WE BOUGHT A, A PIECE, A 30 ACRE PIECE OF LAND FROM BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE IN WACO, AND WE CREATED THE ENTIRE CAMPUS.
SO WE DID THE INDEPENDENT LIVING PIECE.
THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER WAS, UM, DEVELOPED, AND WE, WE SOLD THEM THE LAND.
IT WAS DEVELOPED BY A GROUP OUT OF OKLAHOMA CALLED ARBOR HOUSE.
AND THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY PIECE WAS BOUGHT AND DEVELOPED BY GROUP OUT OF LAS VEGAS.
UM, THEY, IT ALL WORKS AS ONE BIG CAMPUS AND IT ALL LOOKS THE SAME.
SO THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY IN WACO.
UM, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A REALLY NEAT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE, FOR THE SENIORS.
SO THE INTERIOR OF OUR WACO COMMUNITY, AND, UM, FUNNY, I TRIED TO GET, UH, THE, UM, WHAT'S THE, THE WACO PEOPLE THAT DO THE TV SHOW.
I TRIED TO GET THEM TO COME IN AND THE MAGNOLIA GROUP, RIGHT.
I TRIED TO COME AND GET THEM TO DO THE DECORATING IN HERE.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, I GOT SLOUGHED OFF PRETTY QUICK, BUT, UM, BUT IT WAS INTERESTING.
THIS IS OUR ROUND ROCK COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY IN ROUND ROCK ON THE TERRA VISTA GOLF COURSE.
UH, IT'S A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT WAS DONE BY NEWLAND, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE SAME MASTER PLANNER THAT DID THE STONEBRIDGE RANCH COMMUNITY, UM, THE INTERIOR OF ROUND ROCK.
AND THEN THAT'S THE AERIAL OF ROUND ROCK.
YOU CAN SEE THE FAIRWAY THAT'S NUMBER TWO RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND US, THE, UH, NEXT TO US IS AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER CALLED FRANKLIN PARK, AS WELL AS THE BELLAIRE, WHICH IS A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY.
SO WE HAVE THE COMPLETE COMPLIMENT OF, OF PIECES FOR THE SENIOR CARE THERE, OUR MOST RECENT COMMUNITY, AND ONE THAT, UH, I'M JUST FINISHING UP KIND OF PHASE ONE OF HIS IN NEW BRAUNFELS, A GREAT COMMUNITY THERE.
UM, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER THERE CALLED THE ALON WESTPOINT.
UM, IT'S COME ALONG WONDERFULLY.
AND, UH, EACH OF THESE COMMUNITIES, UH, IF YOU BLINDFOLDED YOUR FIVE BLINDFOLDED, YOU AND PUT YOU IN ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU PRETTY MUCH COULDN'T TELL THEM APART.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY WELL RECEIVED ALL THE WAY AROUND.
ANYWAY, THAT'S THE EXTERIOR, THERE IS STUCCO STONE.
AND AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THE EXTERIOR DIFFERENCES IS TO MATCH THE COMMUNITY, THE, A ADJACENT ASSISTED LIVING CENTER FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'VE BLOWN UP KIND OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN NEW BRAUNFELS.
AND WE PUT A POOL AND A FITNESS, PRETTY BIG POOL AND FITNESS CENTER IN, AND, UM, IT'S SOMETHING AS WE'VE EVOLVED, JUST FOUND THAT IS IMPORTANT.
AND SO THAT SAME THING WOULD BE IN BEDFORD WITH, UH, UH, MORE BLOWN OUT LARGER COMMUNITY CENTER, FITNESS CENTER AND POOL.
THAT'S JUST, UH, THE DEAL, UH, THE, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE KEEP A PRETTY ACTIVE CALENDAR OF EVENTS,
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UH, FOR, UM, EACH COMMUNITY.EACH CALENDAR'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
EACH COMMUNITY HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DNA WITHIN IT.
SO THE RESIDENTS IN ROUND ROCK, UH, MAY BE PARTICULARLY INCLINED TO BOOK CLUBS AND DOMINO'S, AND THE RESIDENTS IN MCKINNEY MAY BE INCLINED TO CRAFTS AND CARDS.
IT'S JUST, WE JUST MANUFACTURER, UH, THE, THE CALENDARS BASED ON THE INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS.
SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS RESIDENT DRIVEN AS POSSIBLE.
THE LOCATION IN BEDFORD, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN, UH, THAT IS IT.
WE ARE, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO PARCELS.
ONE OF THE PARCELS IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE WOODLAND HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH.
ONE OF THE PARCELS IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY A, UM, A TRUST, UH, THE ARNOLD ESTATE AND, UM, OH NO, WHAT THIS IS, UM, JUST DESCRIBING THE CAMPUS COMPONENT TO EMERALD COTTAGES AND, AND HOW WE KIND OF HAVE WORKED.
SO THIS IS, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR LONG RIGHT NOW.
UH, BACK IN FEBRUARY, I EMAILED CITY COUNCIL AND KIND OF GAVE THEM, UH, A PLAN OF WHAT WE WERE DOING AFTER WE HAD IT ENVISIONED.
AND, UH, FROM THAT POINT BEGAN WORKING WITH STAFF, UH, THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING OUT AT THE WOODLAND HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT HAD A DIFFERENT SITE PLAN AT THE TIME.
UM, IT'S BEEN REVISED BASED ON INPUT FROM BOTH THE CITY AND FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE, UM, ADDRESSED, UH, MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP.
THIS IS, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A VALUATION ANALYSIS THAT WE DID.
SO CURRENTLY, UM, A BIG PART OF THAT PROPERTY, OR I SAY A BIG PART, UM, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH.
AND SO THERE'S NO TAXES BEING PAID ON THAT.
UH, FIVE ACRES OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE ARNOLD IS, UM, AND THEY'RE GETTING A SMALL RESIDENTIAL TAX ON IT.
SO BASICALLY GOING FROM WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW TO WHERE WE ARE, WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT, UM, ABOUT A $300,000 A YEAR TAX BILL BONUS TO THE CITY.
THIS IS, UH, THE ELM CROFT AND THE WOODLAND HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH, UM, VERY COLONIAL LOOKING.
AND SO THE, THE COTTAGES, WE, UM, WE TRIED TO CREATE AS MUCH OF A COLONIAL LOOK AS WE COULD COMING UP WITH THEM TO MATCH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO CREATE THAT CAMPUS FEEL.
UM, ANOTHER ANGLE WE TRY TO, UM, ANYWAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE LOOKING.
HERE'S THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'VE SEEN, UH, ANOTHER SITE PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, THE PERIMETER TREES, EVERY 30 FEET, THIS WILL BE A GATED COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, SO THE SECURITY, UM, IS A BIG COMPONENT TO SENIORS AND SO IT WILL BE GATED AND THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
THANK YOU, MR. D UM, AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, MR. QUIGLEY.
SO I SEE ONE FIRE EXIT AND A SORT OF LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
IS THERE ANOTHER EXIT OFF TO THE RIGHT? SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS FROM EMERGENCY PERSPECTIVE.
ONE IS BEHIND WOODLAND HEIGHTS, BAPTIST CHURCH ON THE KIND OF SOUTH EAST, RIGHT.
AND THEN WHEN THE ONE IS THE MAIN ENTRY.
UM, THAT AMOUNT OF DENSITY, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT NOISE AND TRAFFIC.
I REALIZE IT'S AN AGE RESTRICTED AND 55 AND OVER, SO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE SENIORS CAN PARTY DOWN TO AND GO WILD.
SO, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SCENE.
I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK CAUSE YOU HADN'T VINCE CALENDAR, ANYTHING GETS OUT IN THE OPEN AND MAKES NOISE OR, UH, IMPACTS THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO, UH, FIREWORKS LOUD ON 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS SHOWS, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING AN OUTDOOR CONCERT OR SOMETHING.
SO OUR COMMUNITIES AT DARK, THEY ROLL UP, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY, VERY QUIET.
UM, WE DO HAVE SINGLE CAR GARAGES FOR ALL OF THE TWO
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BEDROOM COTTAGES OUT HERE.UM, MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ONE CAR THAT ARE OUT THERE.
UH, VERY FEW OF THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY DRIVE THEIR CARS AROUND, UM, THAT THEY DO WHAT NOW I WAS GO AHEAD.
CHIP TRIP GENERATION RATE BY A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS.
MY INSTINCT SAYS IT'S NOT AS HIGH AS LET'S SAY A REGULAR SUBDIVISION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME BASED ON AGE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE, THE MOST, UH, TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED OUT THERE WOULD BE, UM, THE RESIDENTS DRIVING FROM THEIR COTTAGE TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S JUST CHEESEBURGERS, GETTING BUSIER AND BUSIER AND THAT ROUNDABOUT TONIGHT, BUT THINGS DO BACK UP FROM TIME TO TIME, OFTEN CLOSE.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK YEAH.
FROM A TRAFFIC GENERATION PERSPECTIVE, IF, IF THAT'S, UM, IF THAT'S, UH, UH, A BIG KEY WERE YOUR GUY, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, MR. MCMILLAN? I'M SORRY.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE THE ONE CAR GARAGE, AND THEN I GUESS IF SOMEBODY DOES HAVE ANOTHER CAR, THAT VEHICLE WOULD BE ABLE TO STILL HAVE ROOM TO PARK ON THE DRIVEWAY.
AND SO IF THERE IS, UH, TWO CARS, IT'S A TANDEM PARKED.
SO ONE GOES IN THE DRIVEWAY AND ONE GOES IN TANDEM BEHIND.
IS THERE ANY WAY FOR ANYBODY TO PARK ON THE STREET, IF THEY FIRE LINES, YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET.
NOW WE DO HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, PARALLEL PARKING PLACES.
MY GUESS IS THEY WILL NEVER BE USED BY OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, BUT, BUT THEY ARE THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE THOSE SELF-PARK.
AND SO THEN THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS AT THE, ON THE LITTLE L SHAPE OR THE BACKWARD L BUT THAT THOSE UNITS ONLY HAVE, UM, CARDBOARD OUTSIDE PARKING.
SO ON THE BACKSIDE THAT BACKS UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S A 15 FOOT SETBACK, UH, AT THE, AT THE LEAST IT'S A 15 FOOT.
YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE SOME ARTICULATION IN THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND SO, UM, IT PROBABLY GOES FROM 15 TO 20 FEET.
THERE'S, UH, A LITTLE WALKWAY AROUND THERE.
UM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NO DRIVING BEHIND THERE.
THERE'S NO, IN EACH OF THOSE UNITS HAS A BACK PATIO WHERE THEY CAN SET OUT ON THE BACK.
AND THEN THE FENCE ALONG THERE YOU'RE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT FENCE.
SO WHEN, WHEN I MET WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, WE TALKED ABOUT REPLACING THEIR FENCE TO MAKE IT UNIFORM ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THEIR FENCE.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
UH, WE CAN, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN DO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
I JUST, I THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.
SO I, I, WHEN I NOTICED IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES YOU HAD, IT DID BACK UP TO A NEIGHBOR, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT THE WAY THAT THE, UM, THE UNITS WERE ORIENTED, THEY WERE ON THE SIDE.
SO THEY WEREN'T RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE.
LIKE THIS IS LIKE, YEAH, WELL, OH, WAIT, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.
SO YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, YOU JUST WENT RIGHT BACK UP AGAINST WITH A LONG LINE OF, OF BACK.
SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE BEING, UH, THESE DON'T HAVE BACKYARDS, THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOURPLEXES THAT ARE BACK TO BACK.
SO THERE'S NO, NO BACKYARD, BUT THE, THE ISSUE HERE IS YOU DO HAVE A DRIVE AROUND.
AND SO THERE ARE CARS THAT PASS ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THAT FENCE.
AND, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO ELIMINATE ANY KIND OF CAR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC NEXT TO THE BACKYARDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID 55 AND UP, AND YOU SAID THAT USUALLY THERE'S OLDER, BUT I MEAN, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH APPROACHING 60.
SO WE WOULD TECHNICALLY BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE BOTH WORK.
SO WE HAVE TWO CARS AND IF WE WERE WANTING TO JUST DOWNSIZE AND, UH, CAUSE WERE TRAVELING OR SOMETHING, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULD ALL BE JUST PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THEIR SEVENTIES, LATE SEVENTIES.
SO, SO IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF AN ECONOMIC DRIVEN THING, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE PAYING TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY WANT THE SOCIALIZATION, THEY WANT THE ACTIVITY AND THEY WANT TO BE AROUND.
I MEAN, OUR RENTS OVER HERE ARE GOING TO BE 34, 30 $500 A MONTH.
IT'S RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE FOR SOMEBODY THAT, UM, WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IS, IS YOUR AGE YOUNG AND VICIOUS AND WHATEVER.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE SITTING OUT ON MY BACK PATIO WITH MY RADIO ON, I'M STILL YOUNG ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? YES.
UH, CAN YOU, UH, TELL US WHAT THE, UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT
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THE RETENTION POND IS? OH, YES.SO THERE IS A DEFINITE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RETENTION AND A DETENTION POND.
THIS IS A DETENTION POND AND, UH, YES, LET ME SO, UM, THERE'S A, A LITTLE SQUARE THAT'S HASHED KIND OF ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
THEY, THEY DIRECT WATER TO THIS DETENTION POND AND THE DETENTION POND HOLDS THE WATER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IT CAN SLOW, UH, THE EXIT DOWN AND NOT FLOOD ANYBODY OR, UM, ENCUMBER SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF EXTRA WATER RUNNING OUT INTO THE FACILITIES OR WHATEVER.
THIS ACTUALLY WILL CONNECT TO AN UNDERGROUND, UM, DRAIN THAT WILL CONNECT TO CHEEK A LINE, A SEWER LINE UNDER CENTRAL CENTRAL DRIVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. MARTINEZ.
AND IF SOMEBODY COMES FORWARD, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
I HAVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR HOME ADDRESS.
PLEASE DIRECT ALL THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSION.
I LIVE AT 2,604 TALISMAN COURT.
MY HOME BACKS UP TO THE SIX CONSECUTIVE UNITS PROPOSED BEING BUILT ALONG THAT L SHAPE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN BEDFORD, JUST SHY OF 30 YEARS, BASICALLY MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE.
I HAVE OWNED THE HOME ON TALISMAN COURT COMING UP ON A DECADE IN MARCH.
MY NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE OF ME HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.
UM, THAT SAID OVER THE PAST DECADE, I HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS CREATING AN OASIS IN MY BACKYARD.
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF TWO LARGE MATURE TREES THAT BORDER THE FENCE LINE AND DAILY.
I GET TO OBSERVE THE WILDLIFE BEHIND MY FIELD THAT THEY CALL HOME.
WE HAVE A LOCAL HAWK THAT VISITS OUR HOME DAILY, WHICH I BELIEVE LIVES IN THE TREES ON THAT PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE OWLS BATS, RACCOONS AND MUCH MORE.
NOW I KNOW WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A ZOO EXPERTS NUMBER, BUT I'VE NEVER GOTTEN AN OFFICIAL REPORT THAT THE HAWK DOES NOT RESIDE IN ONE OF THOSE TREES.
I'VE GOT NUMEROUS PHOTOS ON MY PHONE TO PROVE THAT THE HAWK DOES VISIT THAT FIELD DAILY.
THERE IS A PROTECTION RIGHT WHEN THEY ARE NESTING.
SO I KNOW IT WOULD BE A SHORT TERM PROTECTION.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, THAT'S WHERE HAWKS RESIDE EARLIER THIS SUMMER, THE FORT WORTH STAR TELEGRAM WROTE AN ARTICLE IN THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND HOW THEY VOWED NOT TO PUT ANY MORE APARTMENTS YET.
HERE WE ARE HAVING A ZONING MEETING TO POSSIBLY ADD MORE APARTMENTS TO THE CITY.
LATE THIS SUMMER, A MEETING WAS HELD AT THE CHURCH BEHIND OUR HOME, WHERE THE DEVELOPER CAME TO PRESENT THE PROJECT COTTAGES ALSO IN ATTENDANCE WAS A LADY WHO WORKED AT ONE OF THE COTTAGES DURING THE PRESENTATION.
THE PROJECT WAS PRESENTED AS COTTAGES TO MAKE IT SOUND MORE APPEALING.
I SUPPOSE THEN LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, THEY WERE CALLED APARTMENTS BY THE EMPLOYEE WHO WORKS FOR THE COMPANY FAST FORWARD TO NOW, WE RECEIVE A NOTICE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO DUPLEXES.
SO I HAVE TO ASK, WHAT IS IT, ARE WE PUTTING IN COTTAGES, DUPLEXES OR APARTMENTS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THESE WILL BE LEASE TERMS ONLY AT ONE YEAR ONLY.
AND BY DEFINITION OF WHAT AN APARTMENT IS, A BUILDING CONTAINS SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL APARTMENTS.
IT SOUNDS AND LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT APARTMENTS IN OUR BACKYARD.
MY ENTIRE BACKYARD WILL BE LINED WITH SINGLE STORY APARTMENTS, LITERALLY SIX CONJOINED UNITS LINING MY FENCE LINE.
I HAVE A LONG NARROW BACKYARD TO START WITH.
SO WHEN YOU SAY 15 FEET, I'VE GOT 15 FEET.
SO LITERALLY I'M GOING TO WALK OUT.
AND FROM HERE, MY BACKYARD TO WHERE YOU ARE, THAT'S WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, BASED ON THE PLANS GIVEN TO US, THESE ZONING, THIS IS GOING TO BE ZERO LOT LINES STEPS FROM OUR BACKYARD.
THE DEVELOPER PROPOSED TO PUT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES, BUT IT WAS NOT CONFIRMED.
AND IT WAS JUST A MERE SUGGESTION.
BUT WHAT ABOUT REPLACING THE TREES THAT WERE ABOUT TO GET CHOPPED DOWN? WHAT ABOUT THE PRIVACY? HOW DO WE GET OUR VIEWS BACK? IS THERE A WAY TO ALTER THE PLANS AND SAVE SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES?
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THE PLANS TO ME WHICH SENDS HAVE BEEN UPDATED STILL TO ME LOOK LIKE CONCRETE AND APARTMENTS AND THE GREENERY HAS GONE ALSO, WHAT'S THE LIGHTING SITUATION GOING TO BE LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO BE BLINDED BY LIGHTS AT NIGHTTIME? BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW, IT'S BLACK AND DARK AND IT'S ENJOYABLE AND PEACEFUL.I FEEL LIKE IT'S ABOUT TO BE TARNISHED.
ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS ONLY FROM CHEEK.
SPARGER ONE OF THE MOST CONGESTED STREETS IN BEDFORD.
ANYBODY WHO'S LIVED IN BEDFORD KNOWS BEDFORD AND CENTRAL DRIVE IS HECTIC.
GRANTED, WE DID SAY THEY'RE SENIORS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT DRIVING.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT UBERING AND FOOD, OR HAVING PEOPLE DELIVER FOOD OR COMING TO SERVICE THEM OR TAKE CARE OF THEM.
THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC, EVEN IF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE RESIDENCIES ARE NOT DRIVING.
AND THAT IS JUST WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS MORE TRAFFIC.
SINCE THE CHURCH IS OFFERING UP PART OF ITS LAND TO SELL FOR THIS PROJECT.
WHY CAN'T WE CREATE ACCESS OFF CENTRAL DRIVE AS WELL, BESIDES JUST AN EMERGENCY EXIT? MY LAST MAJOR CONCERN IS THE FLOODING AND UNEVEN LAND.
WHEN IT RAINS THE LAND FLOODS, HOW WILL THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACT THE STRUCTURE OF OUR HOMES? THE LAND IS WAVY AND WILL NEED TO BE LEVELED POSSIBLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING RETAINING WALLS PUT INTO OUR PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE STRUCTURE OF OUR HOMES.
WHAT IF SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD HAPPENS TO OUR HOMES AFTER THE PROJECT, WHO'S HOUND A CATTLE WHO IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE REALLY CAN'T DO MUCH.
I CAN'T PUT MY HOME UP FOR SALE AND MOVE.
AND IT WOULD LEAD TO A BIDDING WAR, WHICH I WOULD KNOW I WOULD BE OUTBID BY A CALIFORNIA OR NEW YORK BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING HERE, HERE IN THE BUCKETS.
IF I DO SELL, I'D HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND MY HOUSE.
AND THAT IN MY OPINION WOULD TURN BUYERS OFF FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
I'M NOT SURE OF MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK OUT TO THEIR BACKYARD AND SEE ROOF LINES ALL ALONG THEIR FENCE LINE.
SO AT THE END OF THIS, I'M HOPING FOR COMPROMISE.
IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WHAT I MENTIONED IN MY SPEECH, OUR OASIS VIEW THAT WE'VE HAD ME A DECADE, MY NEIGHBORS FOR 25 PLUS YEARS, WE'RE ABOUT TO GO FROM THAT LITERALLY TO BE LINED WITH HOMES, COTTAGES, APARTMENTS, DUPLEXES.
I'M NOT REALLY QUITE SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM.
IT ALL KIND OF SOUNDS THE SAME TO ME.
UM, I DO HOPE THAT IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FIND AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, US WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE CITY OF BEDFORD FOR DECADES.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK, PLEASE, SIR.
JUST WRITE HER NAME, HOME ADDRESS, AND PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
UH, MY NAME IS JEFF CARTER LIVE AT 2,600 TALISMAN COURT, BEDFORD, TEXAS, 7,621.
I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MICHELLE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT SHE VERY CLEARLY ARTICULATED.
I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL OUTLINED.
I DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF ARTICULATION.
I DO WANT TO SAY, UM, THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE THE MEETING.
SO I LIVE JUST THE, THE BLOCK OF SIX.
I WOULD BE THE NEXT HOUSE WHERE IT KIND OF STEPS UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO I LIVE AT THE PI CORNER OF 2,600 TELLS ME COURT IS RIGHT AT THE PI.
SO THE OTHER DAY, UM, MY NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES BEHIND ME, WHICH WAS NOT MYSTERIOUSLY, NOT PART OF THE MEETING.
HE WAS NOT INVITED TO THE MEETING.
I WENT OVER AND TALKED TO HIM AND SAID, HEY, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS? HE OWNS ALL THE LAND.
THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ONE, TWO, I DON'T KNOW, 12 OR SO UNITS.
HE WASN'T INVITED TO THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AND TWO DAYS AGO I DROVE BY HIS HOUSE AND HE WAS MOVING OUT AND I SAID, DAVE, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND HE SAID, WELL, I TRIED TO TALK TO THEM.
THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH ME ON MY LAND.
SO I'M SELLING MY HOUSE AND I'M MOVING OUT.
SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MICHELLE HERE.
THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
THEY SAY IT'S A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
I HAPPEN TO BE SOMEBODY IN MY NEIGHBORS KNOW THIS, THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE BLOCK PARTIES AND THEY ALL GO TO BED.
AND MY WIFE AND I ARE STILL UP.
SO WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE DEVELOPER, OKAY.
SO ARE WE GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS? BECAUSE I HAVE A PROJECTOR.
I PUT A SOUND SYSTEM OUT, WE WATCH A MOVIE, WE'LL WATCH FOOTBALL GAMES.
AM I GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PRIVACY BACK THERE THAT WE COULD DO THOSE KINDS OF EVENTS WITHOUT EVER HAVING PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO, YOU GUYS NEED TO TONE THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
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KNOW, THAT IS A QUESTION.THE, THE PRIVACY FENCE THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, I'M AN AGREEMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPER SAID WAS THAT, WELL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S A UNIFIED FENCE WHEN WE PUT IT IN.
I HAVE NOT CONTACTED HIM DIRECTLY EVER SINCE WE HAD THE MEETING, BUT I HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVES THAT AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE IS PROBABLY MORE IN TUNE OF WHAT I WOULD WANT BEHIND MY HOUSE, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND ALL THE REST OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO, WE HAVE OUR, WHEN OUR FAMILY COMES OVER, WE CAN HAVE 50 PEOPLE IN MY BACKYARD.
I HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE BACKYARD.
LIKE I SAID, WE DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
AND, AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT THIS PLAN IS FOR A SINGLE STORY, BECAUSE I DO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS COULD TURN INTO NOW I HAVE TWO STORY HOUSES BEHIND ME, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD POSSIBLY BE THE ONES THAT THE SENIOR COMMUNITY MIGHT CALL AND SAY, HEY, WE GOT A NOISE COMPLAINT, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.
YOU KNOW? AND I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A SCENARIO WHERE IT IS NOT BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF BEDFORD AND ME AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT IT IS GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGE.
I'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, ALL OF A SUDDEN GOING TO CHANGE WHAT I'VE HAD FOR FOREVER.
AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING.
I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ARNOLD TRUST, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHEN THEY MADE THE PRESENTATION TO US, THAT THEY HAVE TURNED DOWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT OFFERS THAT HAVE COME TO THEM.
AND IN TO THINK THE FACT THAT SOMETHING COMMERCIAL MIGHT COME IN THERE, I REALLY WOULDN'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.
BUT I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
AM I GOING TO HAVE THEIR PRIVACY? AM I GOING TO BE THE PERSON? BECAUSE I AM THE 56 YEAR OLD THAT MY WIFE AND I STAY UP LATER THAN ALL THE REST OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OVER THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS COMMUNITY COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, YOU GUYS GOT A TON OF IT DOWN, BUT YOU KNOW, NONE OF MY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN.
SO AM I GOING TO GET INTRODUCED INTO A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW STUFF? SO OUT OF ALL THIS, THE ONLY BENEFICIAL THING I CAN SEE CURRENTLY AS THE FACT THAT IT IS A SINGLE STORY, I DO AGREE WITH MICHELLE'S COMMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ALL, WE, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY ELSE.
MY WIFE AND I ARE ON THE PAGE OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF BEDFORD HAS SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MORE APARTMENTS COME IN YET.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OWN, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO DEVALUE MY HOUSE BECAUSE WHAT'S BEHIND.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T OWN.
AND YOU KNOW HOW I DON'T FEEL CURRENTLY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE KEPT UP, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO, WHAT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT AGAIN.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF.
SHE REALLY OUTLINED A LOT OF STUFF VERY CLEARLY, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO EXPRESS MY OPINION THAT I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT A SIX FOOT FENCE THAT'S BEHIND MY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, I WANT, BECAUSE OUR, OUR HOUSE ACTUALLY SITS UP HIGHER ELEVATION AND A SIX FOOT FENCE.
THAT'S THREE FOOT BELOW WHERE THE REST OF MY LAND IS.
I'M JUST GOING TO BE STARING AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSES, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM MICHELLE.
AND IF YOU'RE NERVOUS, DON'T WORRY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENT'S NAME AND HOME ADDRESS.
UH, STEVEN VOLUTUS 26 12 TALISMAN COURT SHARE NEIGHBORS WITH THE TWO PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A SPEECH OR AS MUCH SAY MORE OR LESS IN LINE OF QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPERS, UM, UM, PRESENTATION.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I'M GONNA LET HIM JUST WRITE THEM DOWN.
LET'S NOT DO COLUMN RESPONSE HERE CAUSE NO, I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING IT TO Y'ALL AND THE RESPONDENT, AS FAR AS THE FENCE LINE, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER DURING THE CONVERSATION OR THE MEETING, AND I EVEN SENT MEETING MINUTES TO THE DEVELOPER AFTERWARDS.
SO IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED ON WHAT WAS SAID DURING THE MEETING, UM, THAT THE EXISTING FENCES WILL REMAIN.
UH, I GUESS IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT A UNIFIED FENCE LINE, BUT I HAVE A CMU WALL.
THAT'S TWO FEET, 70 FOOT LONG ALONG MY FENCE LINE WITH THE FENCE ON TOP OF IT.
SO MAKING THAT FENCE LINE 10 FOOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DO TO, TO UNIFY THAT FENCE LINE, BUT I WANT MY FENCE LINE TO REMAIN AS IS AS FAR AS THEIR CHEAP TREES THAT THEY'RE REMOVING.
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AGENDA FROM TODAY'S MEETING IS FOR TREES SPECIFICALLY ON MY FENCE LINE THAT THEY'RE REMOVING THE PROVIDE SHADE FROM THE WEST SUN THAT BEATS DOWN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.UM, I KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING UP TREES, BUT AT WHAT MATURITY ARE THE TREES, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE FAIRLY NEW TREES, PROBABLY GONNA BE EIGHT FOOT TALL.
IT PROBABLY TAKE 20 YEARS TO ACTUALLY SHADE MY, MY BACKYARD AGAIN.
SO, UM, REALLY, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE UNDERSTANDING OF MATURITY OF THE NEW TREES, THE FENCE LINE, AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF IS IT GOING TO BE NEW? IS IT BUT TO OURS AS IT, UH, W WE'RE NOT REMOVING OUR FENCE LINE? THAT JUST CLARIFICATION.
THERE IS ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR.
ANYBODY ELSE COME FORWARD? WELCOME, SIR.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL COSGROVE AND I'M THE PASTOR FOR WOODLAND HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND I LIVED AT 1 5, 2 1, SARAH BROOKS, DRIVING KELLER.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, MARCUS PRESENTED A GOOD PLAN.
WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, EARLIER THIS SUMMER AND HEARD THEIR INPUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS GOING TO INVOLVE CHANGE.
I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, UM, AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE AROUND.
AND, UH, WE SEE THE FENCE LINES OF ALL OUR NEIGHBORS BEHIND US, AND WE SEE PARTIES GOING ON AND WE HAVE FOLKS SPILL OUT ONTO OUR PROPERTY AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF IT.
WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME OVER AND ACCESS AND COME IN AND DO THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH, UH, THEIR PROPERTY.
AND IF WE GOT BIRDS LIVING THERE OR ANIMALS, THAT'S FINE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A, A RURAL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU MOW EVERY SO OFTEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WILDLIFE, UH, BUT WITH CHANGE, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL HOUSES THAT GO IN OR A SITUATION LIKE THIS, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA CHANGE THINGS.
BUT, UM, MARK HAS LISTENED AND I DON'T GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH ONE NEIGHBOR OR ANOTHER.
UH, AND AT THE EXPENSE OF, YOU KNOW, THEM MOVING AWAY, I DON'T GET THAT THAT ALLEGATION, BUT WE, UH, BELIEVE THAT.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO ONE OF THESE COMMUNITIES OUT OF TOWN TO SEE IT FOR MYSELF AND IT'S WELL-MAINTAINED, AND IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE A GOOD BUFFER AND THE COMMUNITIES DON'T SEEM TO HAVE SUFFERED AROUND THEM AND IT LOOKS GOOD.
AND, UH, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IN FACT, I WAS QUESTIONING WHETHER PEOPLE WERE EVEN THERE.
UM, BUT THERE IS A, A GOOD, UH, LIST.
IF YOU COULD CALL IT A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND IN CHURCH LIFE, WE CALL IT MINISTRY AND SENIOR ADULTS ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOOD MENTORS.
I BELIEVE IN THERE ARE GOING TO BE A GOOD SITUATION AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
AND, UM, I, I WOULD URGE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD REALLY HELP OUT.
AND I THINK MARK STILL HEARING, UM, WHAT OUR POTENTIAL NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA SAY FOR HIM, UH, WOULD WORK WITH THEM.
SO I THINK SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN.
AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE EMERGENCY ACCESS ABOUT THE RETENTION DETENTION POND.
OUR PEOPLE HAVE ASKED THESE SAME KIND OF QUESTIONS TO EVEN SELL THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE HAD THEIR CONCERNS AND THEY'VE BEEN SATISFIED.
AND IF YOU CAN GET A CHURCH TO A PART WITH PROPERTY, THAT'S A MIRACLE IN ITSELF, BUT, BUT IT WAS PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS WITH OUR CONGREGATION TO LET THIS GO.
UM, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE AND WE CAN STILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS WITH FOLKS.
AND I THINK MARK WANTS TO MAKE IT A WIN-WIN ALL AROUND WITH THE CITY TO THANK YOU, SIR.
UH, MR. MATISSE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
SO, UM, I GUESS THE FIRST THING I HAVE ON THE LIST WAS TRYING TO DELINEATE WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE, COTTAGES, APARTMENTS, UH, DUPLEXES.
UM, WHEN I THINK OF AN APARTMENT, I THINK OF A MULTI-STORE BUILDING.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, APARTMENT AS A SINGLE STORY ATTACHED DWELLING, WE'RE A SINGLE STORY ATTACHED WELLING.
UM, SOME OF THEM ARE, I GUESS, FOURPLEXES.
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SOME OF THEM ARE EIGHT PLEXES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, IT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AREA.I MEAN, I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE IN THE PAST.
WE PUT A CONDO DECLARATION ON THEM AND WE SOLD THEM INDIVIDUALLY UNDER THE DECLARATION AS CONDOS.
SO IT COULD BE A CONDO COMMUNITY.
IT COULD BE CALLED A TOWNHOME COMMUNITY.
UM, IT COULD BE CALLED SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, DUPLEX ATTACHED.
IS IT SOMETHING ABOUT THE CONCEPT OR THE BUSINESS MODEL? WHY ARE THEY RICARD TO LEASE ON ONE YEAR? RIGHT.
SO, UH, IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
AND, UM, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, SO, SO THE FIRST COMMUNITY THAT WE DEVELOPED WAS, UM, IN PLANO, IT'S CALLED THE VILLAGE AT PRESTONWOOD.
IT WAS A 127 UNIT ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY FOR SALE.
WE PUT A CONDO DECLARATION ON IT, BASICALLY THESE COTTAGES AND SOLD THEM.
AND I UNDERESTIMATED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, ANDREW ESTIMATED THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE RESIDENCE.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE 60, 65 YEAR OLD PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO DOWNSIZE.
AVERAGE AGE STILL WAS 80 YEARS OLD ABOUT, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING IN TO LOOK AT THE COTTAGES PREFERRED TO LEASE AS A PERSON AS OPPOSED TO BUY, I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE, UH, YOU'RE IN A MARKET RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S, UM, YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY FOR YOUR HOUSE PROBABLY WILL BE MORE THAN YOU EVER EXPECTED TO GET.
AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND LEASE AS OPPOSED TO REINVEST IN A HIGH MARKET.
THEY, THEY WANTED TO, BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE, BECAUSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR HEALTH POTENTIALLY, THEY WOULD PREFER TO KEEP THAT MONEY AND, AND, UM, AS OPPOSED TO RE-INVEST IT.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST A FUNCTION OF THAT COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE OVERRIDING NOW THERE'S STILL PEOPLE THAT WOULD PREFER TO BUY AT 80, BUT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE FOUND WAS THEY PREFER TO LEASE.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS LIGHTING IN THE COMMUNITY, WE PROBABLY UNDERLIED, UH, OVERALL, AND, AND, AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET OUT AT NIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO ON THE ENDS OF BUILDINGS, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIGHT LIGHTING PER SE.
SO SIGHT LIGHTING, MEANING POLE LIGHTS THAT ARE STANDING BY THEMSELVES, UH, WHAT WE DO ON THE ENDS OF THE COMMUNITIES WE HAVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THEM, BUT JUST, UH, LIGHTS THAT STICK OVER THE ENDS THAT, THAT LIGHT.
WE HAVE COACH LIGHTS ON THE GARAGE.
THEY'RE ON PHOTO CELLS THAT ARE ALL LED AND, AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE LIGHTING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S THE FIRST FURTHEST THING THAT I CAN THINK OF FROM A CAR LOT AT NIGHT.
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS WHEN YOU'RE SEEING THE STREET LIGHTS.
THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS, NO DOG.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FREE STANDARDS.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL STREETS AND ROAD NETWORK.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND THERE, THERE ARE NO, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THERE'S NO STREET NAMES, RIGHT? THIS IS, THIS IS A AS A SINGLE LOT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S UH, THESE ARE ALL FIRE LANES, SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE STREET NAMES.
THE ADDRESS OF THIS PROPERTY IS 24 16 CHEEK SPARGER UM, UNIT 1 0 1, 1 0 2, 1 0 3.
NOW, SO IT'S YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE LIGHTING'S AROUND THE UNITS.
AND SO THE SIDEWALKS AND WHAT TRAILS ARE ILLUMINATED, THAT'S JUST NOT OFFICIAL STREETS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THANKS THAT JUST LET ME, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, FROM A, FROM A, FROM AN, FROM IT, FROM A NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT ENCROACHING ON, ON YOU FROM THAT, FROM THAT WAY.
SO AS THIS GETS DEVELOPED, UM, SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY.
THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF TYPOGRAPHY.
IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE THAT, BUT THE FALL IS REALLY FROM, UH, IT'S TOWARDS THE CHURCH.
SO IT CHEEKS BARKER, OR THAT CORNER UP THERE, AND THE CORNER, UM, WHERE THE L IS, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE HIGH POINTS AND IT ALL FALLS TOWARDS CENTRAL AND THE CHURCH.
AND, AND SO, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A CUTTING FILL SITE.
YOU HAVE TO CUT THE BACK AND FILL THE FRONT TO TRY TO LEVEL THE SIDE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND SO IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS YOU WOULD THINK SOMETIMES TO, TO SAVE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE'LL SAVE WHATEVER WE CAN.
BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE PLANNED IS TO, UM, EVERY 30 FEET TO PROVIDE A
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CANOPY TREE.UM, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
UM, IN PREVIOUS CASES, WE'VE ASKED DEVELOPERS WHO WERE COMING IN.
WE REALIZED THAT IF THERE'S TREES AT THE VERY CENTER OF A LOT, THOSE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
BUT MANY TIMES PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, WE THINK WE CAN PRESERVE THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OR ALONG THE END.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND, UM, OF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT I'VE ALREADY GOT TREES JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY PROPERTY.
UM, IS THERE SOME WAY TO PRESERVE THOSE AND MAYBE PUT THE FENCE ON THE INSIDE OF THAT PERHAPS.
SO PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT THE FENCE ON THE INSIDE, BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YOU CAN PRESERVE SOME TREES WHERE THERE, WHERE THERE'S NOT A VAST ELEVATION DIFFERENCES.
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY TREES AND PLANT TREES, UM, I'M INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
UM, I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, HOW MANY, OR HOW FEW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE, BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY COGNIZANT OF THAT AND, AND TRY TO SAVE WHATEVER WE CAN, UM, DID MENTION THE, UM, THE FENCE AT, AT OUR, UM, HOMEOWNER'S MEETING AND, AND THE CONSENSUS OPINION AT LEAST IS, AS I REMEMBER, WAS THAT, UM, THEY, UH, THE NEIGHBORS DID NOT WANT A DOUBLE FENCE AND THE REASON THEY DIDN'T WANT A DOUBLE FENCE WAS BECAUSE, UH, STUFF GROWS UP IN BETWEEN.
IT'S HARD TO MANAGE, UH, RODENTS LIVE IN BETWEEN THAT ARE HARD TO MANAGE.
JUST STUFF HAPPENS IN BETWEEN THE TWO FENCES THAT ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.
AND SO, UM, AT LEAST AS, AS I RECALL, THE OVERRIDING INTEREST WAS IN US GOING THROUGH AND REPLACING ALL OF THE BACK FENCES WITH A UNIFORM FENCE AROUND THE PROJECT.
I HAVEN'T WALKED EVERY ONE OF THOSE, UM, FENCE LINES.
AND SO THERE, THERE, THERE COULD VERY WELL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RETAINING WALLS THAT COME UP AND THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT.
AND IF THERE'S, UM, A FENCE THAT IS UNUSUAL AND IT'S HARD TO MATCH, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND MAKE IT ALL WORK.
BUT THAT'S, IT'S, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN, UM, REPLACING ALL OF THEM IN A UNIFORM WAY AND WORKING WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
WELL, WHEN YOU SAY UNIFYING BILLING, MATERIALS, STYLE, DESIGN, AND HEIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, I'VE NOT CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IT'S STILL OPEN IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME UP.
UM, IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY REBUTTAL, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO DISCUSSION, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER POINTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE OR ADD MORE TO IT, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR MA'AM PLEASE.
UH, CAROL HICKS, 26 36 TELLS ME COURT, UH, WHEN WOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT STOCK, UH, OH, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE WHAT'S THE FOR SALE? YES.
NOW THEY'D BE ALL MEASURED OUT.
WHAT, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BILL AND THE FOOTAGE AND THE ACRES.
WHAT IF THEY RUN INTO A PROBLEM WHERE SOME HOUSES NEED TO BE, MIGHT BE ANNOYED? WHAT DOES THAT CONCEPT? I MEAN, YOUR HOUSES, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES.
ALL RIGHT, MR.
SO, UH, IT THEORY OF FIRST QUARTER OF 2020 TO START.
AND IT'S ABOUT A 14 MONTH CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, PLEASE.
YEAH, JUST, IT JUST TECHNICALLY HAS TO COME TO US.
UM, I DON'T SEE THE DETENTION POND LISTED IN THE PLANS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF, IS IT, IS IT RIGHT THERE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE RIGHT? OKAY.
MY MONEY RAJA 6, 6 0 9 CANDLE CREEK LANE, PLANO, TEXAS.
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BUT ANY, OR THEY WERE TALKING BECAUSE HE WAS DEVELOPING INTERESTED IN INVESTING AND THEY WERE HAVING CONCERNS.SIMILAR ISSUE I HAD IN PLANO, I WAS BUYING TWO ACRE LAND.
AND THEN OBJECTION, THAT WAS OBJECTION FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE WORST NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN I WORKED, I WENT TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I TALKED TO THEM, OKAY, HERE, THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND FUTURE USE LAND IS FOR RESIDENTIAL BY RIGHTS.
ANYHOW, IT HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN, AND I NEED TO PUT ALLEY AND THEY ALL HAD ALLEY.
I WILL SPEND SOME EXTRA MONEY AND THEN I WILL PUT ALLEY.
IT WILL COST ME 150,000 EXTRA, EVEN THOUGH IT IS 10 HOUSES, $15,000 EXTRA AND SPENDING ON EACH HOUSE.
AND THAT'S SO I CONVINCED THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND THEN IN 4 0 1 TEAM, AND THEN WE HAD AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE AFTER APPROVAL, I MAY GO CHANGE MY MIND.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A SMALL LAND, THEY ALLOWED ME TO DO A PD.
AND THEN I SIGNED THE AGREEMENT AND BY THE PD, I HAVE TO PUT THE ALLEY AND THAT'S ALL I GOT AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME, THIS WILL GO TO THE COUNCIL.
AT SOME POINT YOU CAN SAY IT THEN.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED COMMISSIONERS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, ISSUES, OR A QUESTION FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER WILL KNOW HIM PLEASE.
SO SOMEBODY MENTIONED, UM, THAT THEY WERE TOLD THE PROPERTY SOMEPLACE CLOSE TO THIS WAS ON COMMERCIAL, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THAT THAT PROPERTY IS OWN COMMERCIAL.
UH, NO, THERE'S, THERE IS NO PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS COMMERCIAL.
WELL, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONE SERVICE COMMERCIAL, BUT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, YES, WE'RE HENDRA IS POINTING.
UM, PART OF THE, UH, I THINK THE COMMENTS I HEARD IN THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THAT ACTUALLY PART OF THIS PROPERTY IS ON COMMERCIAL AND THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
NONE OF THIS PROPERTY IS ON COMMERCIAL.
THE ZONES ARE 15,000, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED, 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS OUR 7,500, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
BUT YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IF THE TRUST DECIDED THAT THEY HAD FOUND A BUYER FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WERE A DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO PUT IN A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER OR A GAS STATION THAT THEY COULD STILL COME TO P AND Z AND ASK FOR A ZONING CHANGE OR A VARIANCE OR WHATEVER.
PROPERTY IS ZONED AR 15 RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYBODY CAN COME IN JUST LIKE THE APPLICANTS COMING TONIGHT AND ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
DOES THIS EVEN PLAY THE PEOPLE THAT OWN, THAT PROPERTY COULD SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE? OF COURSE.
SO I DO FIRST WANT TO COMMEND MR. MATTISE BECAUSE I THINK THAT HIS PRODUCT IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.
I'D LIKE THE ONE-STORY, UM, LAYOUT.
I DO THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY FOR ALL OF US.
AS WE GROW OLDER, THERE IS A NEED.
AND I AGREE WITH THE PASTOR THAT, UM, CHANGE COMES.
WE CAN'T ALWAYS EXPECT THAT THE LAND BEHIND US IS GOING TO REMAIN JUST, UM, OPEN AND IN A NATURE CENTER FOR ALL TIME.
UM, I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT BACKED UP TO THE HARDEST FACILITY THAT WAS BUILT AND THE NEIGHBORS IN MY COMMUNITY WERE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT ONE IS THAT THAT TRACK OF LAND THEY KNEW WAS A COMMERCIAL TRACK OF LAND.
SO AT SOME POINT THEY KNEW THAT SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL FACILITY WAS GOING TO BE COMING IN.
MY CONCERN ON THIS SIDE IS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HERE, THIS LAND IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
AND IN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, IT SHOWS THIS LAND TO BE LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND OR THE SCHOOLS, CHURCHES ARE SEMI-PUBLIC USE.
IT NEVER SHOWS ANYTHING FOR, UM, A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THAT.
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SO THEY HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT SOMETHING AT THIS DENSITY WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BEHIND THEIR HOMES FOR THIS REASON, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS ZONING CHANGE MEETS WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.AND IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MARY MELLON.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOLD ON.
LET ME SEE IF SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE.
NO, RATHER THAN FLIP IT, UNLESS NOBODY MAKES A MOTION.
UM, BEFORE COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY PUTS A MOTION TOGETHER, UM, UH, I'M GOING TO SHARE TWO THOUGHTS.
WELL, TWO THOUGHTS, ONE TO ADMINISTRATIVE, AND I'LL DEAL WITH THAT IN A MINUTE, BUT THIS OTHER ONE AND COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN MAKES A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THIS WE'VE.
THIS IS THE SECOND ONE AND TWO MEETINGS ON SOME ODD SHAPE.
LOT THAT SOMEONE'S COME IN AND SAID, WELL, AND CHURCH BOARD, UH, LET'S REDEVELOP IT AS A DENSE SUBDIVISION.
AND IT, IN THAT CASE, IT WAS A, WELL, I WON'T MAKE THE SHAPE, BUT, AND NOW THIS ONE, WHICH IS STRANGE L AND I GET IT BECAUSE WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST FEW PARCELS IN OUR CITY WE'RE BUT 98% BUILT OUT ALMOST 99.
AND SO YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY, BOTH OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF IT, THAT'S OF A HIGHER, BEST USE THAN WHAT'S THERE.
AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF REACTIONS AND OPINIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
ALMOST PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM VALID.
SO I'M WRESTLING WITH IT AS COMMISSIONER QUICKLY FINDS THE NUMBER AND THE LANGUAGE TO DO IT, BUT THE OVEN, BUT I'M SAYING TWO.
AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER CHURCH ON BEDFORD ROAD THAT APPROVED AND BUILT THAT OUT OVER THERE.
AND THAT SEEMED TO HAVE GONE WELL.
AND I KNOW THIS QUESTION IS ON THE OTHER ONE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS HERE.
SO, UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY DEFINITIVE, BUT THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD AT THE MOMENT.
AND THE SECOND ONE, UM, THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING IN A ROW WHERE WE'VE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION STATE LAW IS 200 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE CITY HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT DILIGENT THE ENTIRE TIME, FAR TOO LONG THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION IN NOTIFYING PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU WEREN'T NOTIFIED, THERE WAS EITHER A, JUST METAPHORICALLY NOT LOST IN THE MAIL OR, UM, YOU'RE PAST 200 FEET.
IF A NEIGHBOR DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, THEY MAY VERY WELL, I DON'T KNOW IN THIS CASE, BUT THEY MOVE HER BY THE, ACROSS THE STREET IN THE 200 FOOT LINE IS DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET WILL NOT BE NOTIFIED OFFICIALLY.
SO JUST FYI, SINCE WE'VE GOT A BIG CROWD HERE, IT, THERE'S NOTHING NEFARIOUS ABOUT THAT.
THE CITY IS VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT, AND PEOPLE GET NOTIFIED.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY OWN OPINION AND WHICH I'M USUALLY NOT SHY ABOUT THAT AS SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE SO LITTLE DEVELOPABLE PROP PROPERTY LEFT IN BEDFORD PERSONALLY, IF I NEVER SEE ANOTHER NAIL SALON DONUT SHOP OR DRY CLEANER, AGAIN, I'LL BE HAPPY.
BUT, UM, THE THOUGHT, NO, I LOVE DONUTS.
AND I DO TAKE MY CLOTHES TO THE DRY CLEANERS AND MY WIFE DOES GET HER NAILS DONE, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ON EVERY OTHER CORNER.
AND IF WE HAVE SUCH TINY LITTLE BIT OF OPEN PROPERTY, WE'VE TURNED CASES DOWN WHERE COMMERCIAL VENTURES WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT IN ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY.
WE'VE HAD TWO OF THOSE IN JUST RECENT YEARS.
AND ONE OF THEM CAME BACK EITHER TWO OR THREE TIMES WITH DIFFERENT PLANS.
AND EACH TIME WE WERE LIKE, NO, WE HAVE 13 ALREADY.
THERE ARE LITTLE POCKETS OF PROPERTY AROUND BEDFORD.
I'M OVERJOYED THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT HOUSING IN THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY MENTIONED, AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER EXACTLY.
MAYBE IT WAS MORE, THAT ONE THIRD OF THIS PROPERTY IS NON TAX PAYING PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
GUESS WHAT BEDFORD COULD USE THE TAX REVENUE.
SO THE FACT THAT WE WOULD CONVERT THESE ALL TO SOMETHING THAT NOW WE'LL PAY PROPERTY TAX.
PLUS IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM SURROUNDING AREAS TO VISIT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, GUESS
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WHAT ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO? THEY'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY MAYBE THEY'LL DROP IN AT THE BAPTIST CHURCH.I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE HE'LL BUY GAS.
MAYBE WE'LL GO TO THE SEVEN 11.
MAYBE THEY'LL STOP AT ONE OF OUR THREE NEW LIQUOR STORES AND SPEND SOME SALES TAX MONEY IN BEDFORD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY REALLY NEEDS IS THE REVENUE.
SO I, FOR ONE, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF CASES THAT WE'VE HAD THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENT RELATED.
SO UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, UM, CONDITIONS, CAUSE I'M LIKING THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE IDEA AT A MINIMUM, LOT OF OCCURRED THE COMMISSIONER, ALL OF THE MOTION, HE'S ALREADY SORT OF TACITLY AGREED WITH THAT.
SO, AND IT'S MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR DECIDED TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
YOU WANT PROUD PRIVACY, AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IS PRIVACY.
I MEAN, I CAN BARELY SEE THE TOP OF THEIR ROOF.
AND IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, THIS LAND IS FALLING AWAY.
YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME VIEW OF THE SKY.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TREES, BUT, AND, AND TRUST ME, I'M A TREE LOVER BIG TIME, BUT IF THE LAND FALLS AWAY FROM YOU AND YOU HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, YOU WILL NOT EVEN SEE THESE HOMES.
THAT'S A MAXIMUM, I MEAN, MY NEIGHBOR AND I ARE EXACTLY LEVEL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND I CAN BARELY SEE THEIR ROOF WITH THE SAFE FOOT FENCE.
NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED LIKE YOU HAVE A SIX FOOT FENCE AROUND, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT ON EACH SIDE, BASED ON THE ELEVATION IN MY BACKYARD IS THE SAME WAY I'M DOING THE CUL-DE-SAC AND SAME SIDE STANCE, BUT I CAN SEE FURTHER ON ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER, SO YEAH, I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
SO ARE WE SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD AN EIGHT-FOOT RECOMMENDATION? YEAH, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
SO IF I SAID EIGHT FOOT FENCE ON THE PROPERTY AND WORK WITH THIS SPECIAL CASE, YOU OBVIOUSLY YEAH.
SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATING WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS A 10 FOOT FENCE, CORRECT.
WE APPROVE CASE P Z P U D 2 0 2 1 5 0 0 4 6 WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT AN EIGHT FOOT UNIFIED FENCE BE INCLUDED IN THE CONSIDERATION AND IN THE OTHER EXISTING FENCE LINE BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WHEN YOU SAY MINIMUM OF EIGHT FOOT, MINIMUM OF A UNIFORM OF MATERIALS LOOKING WHATNOT, AND THERE YOU GO, DID YOU GET THAT OUT? THE 10 FOOT? OKAY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANDREA ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
I VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIS, RIGHT COMMISSIONER QUICKLY.
HI COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN, COMMISSIONER HENDERSON AND COMMISSIONER NIAGARA.
SO THIS ASK FOR FINAL APPROVAL COUNSEL.
AND WHEN WILL THAT BE? DECEMBER 14TH, DECEMBER ONE, DECEMBER 14TH.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE SMOKE TONIGHT.
PLEASE GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH AND EXPRESS THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.
[4. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone property legally described as Lot A, Block 1 of the First United Methodist Church – Bedford Addition, commonly known as 1101 Airport Freeway, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 0.376 acres, from Service Commercial/Specific Use Permit for Children’s Day Care (S/SUP) to Service Commercial/Specific Use Permit for Children’s Day Care (S/SUP), amending an existing Specific Use Permit to allow an expansion of an existing day care facility. The property is generally located northwest of Shady Wood and Shady Brook Drive. ( PZ-SUP-2021-50057)]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LEGAL DC LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT A BLOCK.
ONE OF THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, BEDFORD EDITION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1101 AIRPORT FREEWAY, BEDFORD, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF 0.376 ACRES FROM SERVICE COMMERCIALS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CHILDREN'S STAKE HERE AS SLASH SUP TO SERVICE COMMERCIAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CHILDREN'S DAYCARE AMENDING AN EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AN EXPANSION OF EXISTING DAYCARE FACILITY.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF SHADY WOOD AND SHADY BROOK DRIVE CASE 5 0 0 5 7 WEST STAFF PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS.
THIS IS A ESSENTIALLY AN AMENDED AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SUP FOR A DAYCARE CENTER PROPERTY LOCATED JUST AS DESCRIBED NORTH OF AIRPORT FREEWAY, UH, WEST OF SHAY BROOK DRIVE.
UM, THE ORIGINAL STP WAS APPROVED IN 2016 FOR THE DAYCARE USE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE SERVICE COMMERCIAL, AND IS IN THE FUTURE LANDY STAGNATION OF SERVICE COMMERCIAL.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE SUP TO ADD A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTING 1800 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UH, TO CONTINUE THE USE OF THE DAYCARE, UM,
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AS Y'ALL KNOW, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINES WHAT THE USE IS.SO WE'VE GOT THE DEFINITION OF A DAYCARE USE, PRETTY STANDARD DEFINITION OF WHAT A DAYCARE USE IS.
THE ORDINANCE ALSO SETS, UM, MINIMUM CONDITIONS FOR DAYCARE USES ONE BEING THAT THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, UH, OR FACILITY SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 50 FEET OF A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREA OR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT SAID VEHICLE STACKING PLAN, WHICH SAYS ARE SATISFIES PICKUP AND DROP OFF SITUATION SHALL BE, UM, PROVIDED LOOKING AT THIS SITE.
THE, UM, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS CLOSER THAN IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET TO A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, THE 2016 SUP APPROVED THE LOCATION, THE PLAYGROUND CROP PROPERTY, AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND, THIRD IS NOT A DESIGNATED DROP OFF ZONE.
UM, THEREFORE STACKING IS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS APPLICATION, UH, PSYCH CONDITIONS.
THERE ARE 10 EXISTING PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT IS SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE USE.
UM, NO CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TO LANDSCAPING OR SCREENING WALLS.
AND THEN LASTLY PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, THE PROPOSED EXPANSION COULD ENCROACH THE PRO'S FLOODWAY BASED ON PRELIMINARY MAPS, WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER EXHIBIT HERE TO GO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT, UM, IN 2016, WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME IN, THE, THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT, IT WAS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.
IT WAS ALREADY IN A FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD ON THAT A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
SO THEREFORE HE'S ADD, HE'S BUILDING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH IS PERMITTED, BUT THAT'S UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE FAMOUS ALREADY PRODUCED THEIR PRELIMINARY MAPS, UM, THAT ARE SET TO BE ADOPTED SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, POSSIBLY BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
AND STAFF DOES NOT FEEL THAT WE'D BE DOING OUR JOB.
WE LET YOU APPROVE AN ADDITION THAT COULD ENCROACH THE FLOODWAY, WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED.
SO THE APPLICANTS BEEN AWARE OF THIS.
WE'VE MADE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS AND IN THEIR BACKUP, YOU, THEY PROVIDED YOU A LETTER EXPLAINING HOW THEY'VE MITIGATED THE FLOOD SITUATION, UM, AND THE HOPKINS HERE.
AND THEY CAN GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
BUT JUST FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, WANTS YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY, THEY WILL BE BUILDING THE FLOOD PLAIN IF APPROVED AND BASED ON THOSE PRELIMINARY MAPS, WE'RE REALLY NOT SURE THEY COULD BE ENCROACHING OR COMING VERY CLOSE TO THE FLOOD WAY.
UM, SURROUNDING LAND USES THE, UH, SITE IS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, UH, BUILDED BY RELIGIOUS FACILITY.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THERE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, JOINING A CON UH, BLOCKS AND STREET CONTEXT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, PICTURES OF THE TWO RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, THE VACANT LOT JUST TO THE NORTH.
ALSO, IT'S INTERESTING FACT ON THIS ONE, GOING BACK TO THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE.
UM, BUT A FEW YEARS AGO, THE PROPERTIES JUST TO THE NORTH AND THEN, UM, TWO OTHER LOTS ADJACENT TO THE SITE WERE, UM, PURCHASED BY THE CITY AS A PART OF THEIR FLOOD MITIGATION TO GET THOSE PROPERTIES OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO THOSE LOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT, THAT ARE VACANT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY.
UM, AS ALWAYS, WE DO A PUBLIC NOTICE ON, UH, SITE FOR ANY TYPE OF AMENDMENT OF AN SUP.
WE PLACED A SON ON THE PROPERTY.
WE ALSO NOTIFIED EVERYONE WITHIN 1200 TO 1200, 200 FEET OF THE, UM, SITE THAT RESULTED IN 12 PROPERTY OWNERS BEING NOTIFIED AT THIS TIME, WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST TONIGHT.
YOU'RE CONDUCTING YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
YOUR ACTION THAT YOU'LL TAKE IS YOU WILL, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND DENIAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
YEAH, ELSE I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, I DON'T THINK I CAUGHT THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE MATERIAL.
SO WHAT IS A FLOODWAY VERSUS A FLOOD PLAIN? OH, NO, LET ME START WITH SOMETHING EASY.
WHAT DOES PUBLIC WORKS? THINK OF THE, UM, FLOOD ANALYSIS.
THAT IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THESE CONCERNS AS Y'ALL KNOW, A POLO BOX IS A PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND SO ALL THESE APPLICATIONS RUN THROUGH THERE AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS APPLICATIONS WITH PUBLIC, WORKS, THE CITY ENGINEER WITH THE APPLICANT AND HIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
AND REALLY IN SURELY THE, UM, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE DRAINAGE STUDY ON THEIR PART TO, TO REALLY SATISFY THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
I'M SEEING THIS LETTER FROM STRAND IS OKAY.
AND I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND BASE FLOOD ELEVATION THE FINISHED FLOOR, ELEVATION FIVE 60.1
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BASE FLOOD ELEVATION OF 5 59.SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY'RE BASING ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION.
THEY'RE BASING ALL THEIR INFORMATION ON EXISTING ADOPTED MAPS.
AND WHY DOES THAT SAY PROPOSED FLOODWAY THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS JUST AT THIS POINT.
SO TURNER COUNTY WATER DISTRICT
YOU'RE JUST SAYING TO PROPOSED FLOODWAY, WHO'S PROPOSING THAT FEMA IS PROPOSING THAT THE MAPS BE CHANGED, THAT IT GO FROM FLOODWAY TO FLOODPLAIN WHERE THE WATER FLOWS FEMA IS PROPOSING THAT IT BE DONE FLOODWAY IN THAT AREA, ON THE POLLUTED AREA UP THERE.
IT'S AN, IT'S A MATHEMATICAL MODEL.
YEAH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE ARE PROPOSED IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE PROPOSING.
I HAVE TO, SO CAN I ASK ONE MORE? I'LL LEAVE YOU THOUGH.
UM, NOW BACK UP AGAIN, YOU'RE SAYING YOU KIND OF IMPLANTED, WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS OR WE, YOU, YOU CAN APPROVE IT OR THERE'S NO, YOU, YOU JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNEW THAT IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU ARE APPROVING AN EXPANSION THAT POSSIBLY ENCROACHES INTO THE FLOODWAY.
WE, THE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE RESPONSE, UH, MORE, UH, JOYNER STUDY BASED FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT BASED ON THE PROPOSED FLOOD MAPS.
AT THIS POINT, EVERYTHING THEY'VE GIVEN US IS BASED ON CURRENT FLOOD MAPS.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO MITIGATE, UM, THE, UH, THEIR WHOLE STRUCTURE BEING BUILT HIGHER? WHAT CAN HAPPEN? THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.
THEY CAN, UM, THEY CAN FLIP PROOF OF THE BUILDING.
THEY CAN, UM, THEY CAN PROVIDE MORE DURING YOUR STUDY, DO SOME DETENTION PONDS, RETAINING WALLS, WHATNOT.
UM, AND WE TALKED WITH THAT OVER WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY DIDN'T SAY NO, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH BECAUSE IT'S COSTLY DRAINAGE STUDIES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE CITY'S EVEN ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF ALLOWING THE ENCROACHMENT TO BEGIN WITH.
AND I'M KIND OF SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THAT'S NOT MORE A LOT NORMALLY LIKE TO DO SO Y'ALL CAN ASK THEM THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL.
AND THEY COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND THERE.
NO, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S FUNNY VIEW.
AND DID, DID YOU INVITE PUBLIC WORKS TO COME TONIGHT? I'M SURE THEY'LL EXPLAIN IT TO COUNCIL, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, IS THERE, THERE WAS A SCHEDULING CONFLICT TONIGHT, SO PUBLIC WORKS.
I'M GOING TO RELINQUISH THE MIC FOR A MINUTE AND LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS.
I'VE GOT MORE, BUT ALWAYS THANKS A QUESTION.
IF WE DO APPROVE IT AND IT DOES BECOME FLOODWAY, WHAT'S GOING TO SEE YOU GET IN TROUBLE FOR APPROVING IT.
THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET IN TROUBLE AND I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE A FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, AND SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS YOU APPROVE IT.
THEN WHEN THEY COME IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVE TO US HOW THEY'RE LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER MILAN SAID HOW THEY'RE MITIGATING THE FLOODWAY AND FLOODPLAIN ISSUES.
DO WE KNOW WHEN IT WILL BECOME NO.
WHEN I TALKED TO THE CITY ENGINEER EARLIEST, MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN THOSE WOULD BE ADOPTED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE YET.
SO IT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BEDFORD HADN'T BEEN STUDIED IN A REALLY LONG TIME BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY HAVE JUST REDONE ONE.
WHAT TRIGGERED THAT? WAS IT THE HIGHWAY OR, I MEAN, CAUSE THAT, THAT MADE A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES HAPPEN.
IN MY OPINION, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY THE STUDY WAS BROUGHT ON.
WE ARE GOING TO GET NEW MAPS AND BEDFORD REALLY THAT'S CRAZY.
I'M NOT CRAZY, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
AND FLOOD WAY, YOU CAN'T DISTURB FLOOD PLAIN.
YOU CAN, YOU JUST, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE DISCIPLINED.
YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T AFFECT THE LEVEL OF THE WATER.
THAT'S WHAT THAT BASELINE ELEVATION MEANS.
UM, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS LISTENING THERE, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS THERE'S A LONG-TERM BET FOR BUSINESS UNTIL THIS CAME UP.
I, I DIDN'T SEE THE ISSUE WITH THIS IT'S YEAH, PLEASE EXPAND.
IT'S A WEIRD LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON THE FREEWAY.
I GET THAT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE AWHILE AND THEY SAID THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
NO, 2016 WAS THE ORIGINAL SUP.
AND REMEMBER IF I EVEN REMEMBER THAT THAT'S OKAY.
AND IT PROBABLY DIDN'T COME UP IN 2016 BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
SO, AND IT WAS JUST FLOOD PLAN AT THAT POINT, THE FLOODWAY IS WHAT'S REALLY CHANGED WITH THE NEW MAP REVISION,
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EXISTING BUILDING FLOOD THE WAY IT'S POSSIBLE.THAT'S WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AT A LOSS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S COMING VERY CLOSE.
SO IT COULD BE VERY, VERY CLOSE OR IT COULD BE ENCROACHING.
WHAT HAPPENS TO SOMEONE, IF THIS IS DESIGNATED AS A FLOODWAY, WHAT HAPPENS TO AN EXISTING BUILDING? WELL, IF IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, THEN IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE GRANDFATHER.
I DON'T LIKE USING THE WORD GRANDFATHER, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GRANDFATHERING IN FLOOD INSURANCE.
SO EITHER WAY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT, BY THE TIME THEY TRIED TO FILE FOR ANY TYPE OF, WELL, I MEAN, WHEN WE SAW IT, WE'D STILL SEE A FINAL PLAT RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTY'S PLANTED.
HE WOULDN'T SAY, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT WHEN THEY ASK FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW ASSUMING THAT FEMA HAS PUBLISHED YOUR MIND.
UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE CITY BOUGHT THE TWO LA TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH.
UH AREN'T THEY ON THE SAME PIECE OF WATER THERE? UH, YES.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS DONE AGAIN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY.
I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE ON THAT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UH, WAS EXACTLY DECIDED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER PEOPLE, LET ME GO BACK TO AN AREA THAT MAYBE CAN SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THE, UM, IF OTHER PEOPLE WERE OFFERED BY THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT OFFER WAS MADE AND THEY JUST DIDN'T ACCEPT, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCK DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH AND THEN THE CUL-DE-SAC TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF VACANT, LOTS.
THOSE ARE THE LOTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, ALSO I, WHEN I WAS, UM, TRYING TO FIND MORE INFORMATION OUT, I DO KNOW SOME LIGHTS SOUTH OF THE FREEWAY WERE BOUGHT AS WELL BY THE CITY.
I WANT TO SAY EIGHT OR SO LOTS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN THAT PROCESS WENT THROUGH THE BUILDING ONWARDS OFFERED SOMETHING OR IF MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT FLOOD PLAIN MAPS, I MEAN, I'M SPECULATING MAYBE THE CURRENT FLOOD PLAIN MAPS DIDN'T SHOW IT IN THE FLOODWAY OR ARE, HAS A BIGGER PROBLEM AS IT MAY BE WITH THE PROPOSED MAPS.
NOW I CAN SAY 20, 22 IS GOING TO BE KIND OF INTERESTING ONCE THE MAPS COME IN AND PLUS, YOU KNOW, GETTING A CENSUS DATA COMING IN TOO.
I HAVE QUESTION, SO PLEASE, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT PARKING.
SO, UM, THEY'RE CUTTING OUT OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL PARKING SPACES ON THAT SIDE WITH THIS PLAN AND YOUR STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT ONE SPACE PER FIVE STUDENTS.
SO 10 PARKING SPACES, BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING A MAXIMUM OF 50 STUDENTS, MY QUESTION IS THESE MAXIMUMS THAT THEY PUT ON THE ROOMS AND THE SITE PLAN, IS THIS JUST SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PUT FORTH? IS IT, ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE LIMITING THEM TO NOT HAVING ANY MORE THAN THIS? I MEAN, WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THE APPLICANT PUTS THAT THERE'S 50 MAX, BUT THEN YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY ENDED UP HAVING A LARGER CAPACITY IN THE ROOMS. MY UNDERSTANDING IN DEALING WITH SOME DAYCARES IN PAST POSITIONS IS THAT THE STATE IS THE ONE THAT DICTATES WHEN THEY DO THEIR, UM, UH, INSPECTIONS, UH, HOW MANY STUDENTS CAN BE PER SQUARE FEET.
AND SO THAT'S THE FORMULA THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.
THEY ALSO PROVIDE ON THEIR, UM, DOCUMENTS THEY GAVE TO US.
SO WE CAN ALSO SET THEIR CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY AT THAT LEVEL AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OKAY.
SO IF THE APPLICANTS HERE ARE POSITION THE REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BIG TOPIC, BUT PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE EXPANSION.
AND, UH, MY NAME IS WAYNE ROWE.
MY ADDRESS IS 84 0 1 SNOW YGRITTE WAY FOR TEXAS 7 6 1 1 8.
WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU RAISED RELATIVE TO WHAT'S THIS PRESENTATION.
I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF OUR EXPANSION, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT.
SINCE IT WAS JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, I WAS IN THE SAME POSITION PRESENTING TO A PANEL OF SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THAT PANEL.
I DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY, WE WERE LOOKING TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING THAT WAS MIDST OF THESE PEST CONTROL IN TURN INTO A DAYCARE CENTER.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I HAVE A NINE-YEAR-OLD SON AND A SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN MY WIFE AND I HAD OUR
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KIDS, WE REALIZED THAT DAYCARE IS JUST AS EXPENSIVE AS COLLEGE, BUT THAT HAPPENS 18 YEARS SOONER.AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL WE HAD KIDS, RIGHT.
SHE ACTUALLY WORKED AS A TEACHER AT THE, UH, MARTIN METHODIST PRESCHOOL.
UM, AND THEN THAT FACILITY SHUT DOWN AND THE PARENTS LOVED HER SO MUCH THAT I WAS CRAZY ENOUGH TO AGREE TO ALLOW THE KIDS TO COME TO OUR HOUSE.
AND THIS WAS IN ABOUT MARCH OF 2016.
SO NATURALLY WE OPENED THIS BUILDING PRETTY SOON THEREAFTER BECAUSE BEING WOKEN UP AT 6:00 AM, BY CRYING CHILDREN, THAT MY WIFE IS ACCEPTING, UH, WASN'T NECESSARILY IDEAL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE SCHOOL GOT STARTED.
AND NOW I'D JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING UP TO THIS POINT.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED IN 2016.
UM, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T MY DAY JOB.
UM, THEY DO PLAN OF CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE, UH, THE METROPLEX.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. THE BUILDING IS A LITTLE OVER 1800 SQUARE FEET.
WE'VE GOT WAITING LISTS ACROSS THE BOARD ACROSS CLASSROOMS, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE WE PROVIDE GOOD QUALITY AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE, UNFORTUNATELY IN THE CHILDCARE SPACE, GOOD QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE TEND TO BE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
BUT FOR US, WE REALIZE THAT THERE'S VALUE IN PROVIDING GOOD QUALITY CARE TO CHILDREN AND ALLOWING PARENTS TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN WORK AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY.
SO WE'VE REALLY BEEN, UM, REALLY PROACTIVE IN DOING THAT.
WE GET RAVE REVIEWS FROM, FROM PARENTS, FROM, FROM TEACHERS IN THE HCP COMMUNITY.
IN FACT, WE HAVE TEACHERS WHOSE CHILDREN ATTEND OUR PROGRAM, AND IT'S KIND OF NEAT BECAUSE IT GIVES MY KIDS SOME CLOUT IN THE CLASSROOM BECAUSE THEIR TEACHERS WILL HAVE KIDS IN OUR PROGRAM.
AND SO THEY SOMETIMES GET A LITTLE BIT OF PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
UM, AGAIN, WE SPEAK REGULARLY WITH THE LOCAL, UM, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CURRICULUM IS ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT IN KINDERGARTEN.
SO THE KIDS ARE REALLY KINDERGARTEN READY, READING, READY, ABLE TO SIT STILL IN A, IN A CLASSROOM.
UM, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FASCINATING THINGS ABOUT CHILDCARE IS THAT WHILE IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS OF CARE THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, CARING FOR SMALL CHILDREN, AND YET IT IS ONE OF THE LOWEST PAID PROFESSIONS OUT THERE.
THE AVERAGE PAY FOR CHILDCARE WORKER IN TEXAS IS $10 AND 50 CENTS.
WELL, OUR AVERAGE PAY IS $15 AN HOUR AND WE PROVIDE FULLY PAID HEALTHCARE.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING TO DO, BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PAY $10 AND 50 CENTS FOR A CHILDCARE WORKER, WE'RE GOING TO GET $10 AND 50 CENTS WORTH OF, AND OFTENTIMES THAT'S NOT IDEAL FOR THE KIDS.
IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR THE PARENTS.
AND I PERSONALLY, AS A PARENT, WOULDN'T FEEL AT EASE KNOWING THAT A CAREGIVER WASN'T BEING COMPENSATED APPROPRIATELY OR FELT SECURE IN THEIR ROLE.
AND SO THAT LEVEL OF PAY, AS WELL AS THOSE BENEFITS ALSO PROVIDE A LOWER LEVEL OF TURNOVER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT MOST CHILDCARE CENTERS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON NOT JUST BEING GOOD QUALITY, BUT ALSO BEING FOREFRONT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF GOOD QUALITY CHILDCARE CENTERS OUT THERE, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE AFFORDABLE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR WORKING PARENTS.
AND SO WE TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO ENSURE THAT WE LIMIT THE OVERHEAD AND INDIRECT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CARE.
AND SO AS A RESULT, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE GOOD QUALITY PRICING.
AND WE ACTUALLY SHARE OUR PRICING WITH PARENTS AHEAD OF TIME, RATHER THAN SOME, A LOT OF DAYCARE CENTERS ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT YOU COME IN TO FIND OUT THE PRICE.
SO YOU HAVE TO CALL FOR PRICING.
WE MAKE ALL OF THIS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
I DID WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES.
IN FACT, I THOUGHT I SAW FORMER MAYOR GRIFFIN, UM, EARLIER, BUT, UM, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.
THE ONE ON THE LEFT, UM, IS WHEN I WAS INITIALLY APPLYING FOR THIS SUP, UM, AND THEN IT WAS TO, TO MAYOR GRIFFIN AND, UM, THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
AND, UH, THAT'S MY SON THERE AIDING, UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THEY, THEY WENT ON A TRIP TO CHICK-FIL-A TOGETHER BECAUSE I WAS SIGNING UP TO COACH MY SON'S BASKETBALL TEAM.
AND MAYOR GRIFFIN WAS THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF THAT.
AND I REMINDED HIM ABOUT BEING IN THIS PLACE AND HAVING TO PRESENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
AND HE WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THAT, UH, OUR DAYCARE CENTER WAS DOING WELL.
UM, AND THEN THAT ONE TO SHARE, UH, THIS PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, THE WOMAN IN THE MIDDLE IS MY WIFE AND THEN THE TWO KIDS FOR PRIVACY SAKE.
I, YOU KNOW, W WHY DID OUT THERE THEIR FACES, BUT, UM, THE SHIRTS THAT THEY HAVE ON AND THE SHIRT THAT MY WIFE HAS THERE, UM, THEY ACTUALLY SAY PROUD SUPPORTERS OF THREE-YEAR HEART SURGERY SURVIVORS, THOSE TWO KIDS AT TWO YEARS OLD, THEY'RE FIVE YEARS OLD.
NOW, ONE ON THE RIGHT A LITTLE BOY.
UH, HE HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY AT TWO YEARS OLD.
AND, UM, HIS MOM, UH, KNEW SHANTAY KNEW MY WIFE
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AND DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING HIM IN ANY DAYCARE FACILITY AFTER THAT SURGERY, UNLESS IT WAS CAUSE HE, SHE WAS, HE WAS GOING TO BE WATCHED BY MY WIFE.AND THEN WHEN HER FRIEND, THE PARENT OF THE LITTLE BOY, HER, HER FRIEND ALSO HAD A DAUGHTER AND I BELIEVE THEY GOT CONNECTED THROUGH BEING AT THE SAME FACILITY, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, UM, EXTENSIVE PROCEDURE THAT'S DONE.
UH, SHE NATURALLY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING HER CHILD IN A DAYCARE FACILITY UNTIL SHE SPOKE WITH THE PARENT OF THE LITTLE BOY AND FOUND OUT ABOUT OUR CENTER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I SHARE THIS WITH YOU, MAINLY THE EXPRESS, THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS FOR MUCH GREATER COSTS, YOU KNOW, UM, RIGHT NOW AT THE SAME MEETING IN ULOUS, UH, WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF DEVELOPING A GROUND UP MID-CITY SCHOLARS OF USELESS.
IT'S, IT'S GOING BE A BIGGER FACILITY, BUT IT'S THE MISSION STILL GONNA BE THE SAME TO REALLY PUT THE CARE BACK INTO CHILDCARE RATHER THAN THE CORPORATE CARE THAT SOME TIMES YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES AT THESE MEETINGS, YOU SEE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE OWNER.
WELL, I AM THE OWNER, MY WIFE IS THE OWNER.
THIS ISN'T SOME, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE TYPE THING.
THIS IS US, AND THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IN, AND THIS IS WHAT WE STAND FOR.
UM, WE WANT TO EXPAND IN BEDFORD BECAUSE BEDFORD IS WHERE WE STARTED.
AND YOU ALL HAVE REALLY BEEN REALLY GREAT IN JUST SUPPORTING US IN ALL OF THIS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND BASED OFF OF THE RESERVATIONS THAT, THAT, THAT WAS ALLUDED TO IN THAT I'LL TOUCH ON BRIEFLY THAT THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES AROUND THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OKAY, THAT'S AT LEAST WE TRY.
BUT, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THAT GOODNESS AND THAT LOVE THAT WE'VE CREATED IN THIS COMMUNITY ALREADY, AND THAT WE HOPE TO DO, UH, FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, SITE PLAN, UM, THE AS-BUILT SITE PLAN.
AND IF YOU KNOW THIS, UM, THE EXPANSION IS PLANNED REALLY ON THE WEST SIDES OF THE LEFT THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE EXPANSION WOULD BE IN, IN PREVIOUSLY IN OUR INITIAL DRAWINGS AND SUBMITTAL, UH, WE HAD A MUCH BIGGER EXPANSION, AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT IT ENCROACHED ON, UH, THE EASEMENT THERE TOWARDS THE, UH, THE NORTH, AND THEN, UM, THE REQUIREMENT AROUND PARKING, UM, AND YOU LIST, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IT'S BASED OFF OF NUMBER OF WORKERS, BUT IN BED FOR THIS BASED OFF THE NUMBER OF, OF STUDENTS.
AND SO WE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND SWITCH TO THE EXPANSION HERE.
UM, THAT LETTER FROM STRENGTH FROM STRAND, UM, CHANCELLOR CARLSON THAT YOU REFERENCE, UM, IS TIED DIRECTLY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY RAISING THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING A FULL FOOT ABOVE THE ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING FACILITY.
SO THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS 559 FEET.
OUR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION FOR OUR EXISTING STRUCTURE IS 560 FEET.
WE ARE RAISING THE HEIGHT OF THE ADDITION BY A FULL FOOT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING FEMA REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE EXISTING FLOOD MAPS.
UM, THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALREADY PAVED.
WE ALREADY HAVE, WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL THERE.
WE HAVE THE INLETS WHERE WATER WOULD FLOW.
AND AGAIN, BASED OFF OF THESE PROPOSED MAPS, I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT.
OUR EXISTING FACILITY WOULD BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS OUR ADDITION.
AND SO IT, AND MOREOVER THE CONDITIONS AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT EXISTS NOW, THE FLOOD MAPS, NOT WITHSTANDING THE PROPOSED FLOOD MAPS, NOT WITHSTANDING ALL THOSE SAME CONDITIONS EXISTED FIVE YEARS AGO AND APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION.
AND THE COUNCIL WAS THE CONDITION UNDER WHICH WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND SO, UM, REALLY MY, MY ASK AND MY HOPE, IF YOU ALL WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EXPANSION.
CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF EMPTY SPACE OVER THERE.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT WAITING LISTS ACROSS ALL THE CLASSROOMS AND WE HAVE A DESPERATE NEED TO PROVIDE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
THIS IS THE LETTER FROM STRAND.
AS I PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED, THIS IS AN ELEVATION CERTIFICATE THAT WE OBTAINED.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THIRD PARTY.
AND SO, UM, NONE OF THESE FOLKS REALLY HAVE A HORSE IN THE RACE SIMPLY, UM, CERTIFYING WHAT THEY KNOW TO BE THE CASE.
AND WE'VE BUILT, UM, WE'VE BUILT OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS OFF OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'VE SET, WHICH BY THE WAY, HAS LED TO INCREASED COST.
AND MY GENERAL CONTRACTORS HERE, HE CAN ATTEST TO THE INCREASED COST PER SQUARE FOOT,
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UM, THAT THIS EXPANSION WOULD NEED TO BE BECAUSE OF THE, ALL THE MITIGATING FACTORS WE'VE PUT IN PLACE TO OFFSET THE, UM, THE ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS.AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD TO PRESENT.
I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIS, PLEASE.
YOU MENTIONED THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, UM, OF, UH, 59 AND YOUR EXISTING OF FLOOR IS 60.
DO YOU KNOW THE PROPOSED BASE FLOOD ELEVATION? UM, THERE IS NOT A NO SHORT ANSWER IS NO BECAUSE THE PROPOSED MAPS DON'T GIVE THAT LEVEL OF, OKAY.
EARLIER I ASKED THE, UM, STAFF ABOUT THE CAPACITY.
SO CAN YOU ADDRESS, IS THAT SET BY THE STATES, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES, THEY WOULD BE THE ONES WHO STATE THE NUMBER OF KIDS YOU'RE ALLOWED PER TEACHER.
IT'S BASED OFF OF THE SIZE OF THE CLASSROOM AS WELL AS NUMBER OF TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND SO GENERALLY BASED OFF OF THE AGE OF THE KID, THEY CAN RANGE FROM ANYWHERE FROM FOUR KIDS TO ONE TEACHER, ALL THE WAY UP TO 12 KIDS PER ONE TEACHER.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON, AND THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, PARENTS OF KIDS WHO ARE THREE-YEAR HEART SURGERY SURVIVORS, IS THAT WE HAVE SMALLER CLASSROOMS. AND THESE TWO ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS ARE GOING TO BE TWO SMALLER CLASSROOMS, BUT THEY'LL JUST BE, YOU KNOW, MORE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE KIDS.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THE ADDITION HAD TO GO WEST TECHNICALLY INTO THE FLOOD ZONE, AS OPPOSED TO LET'S SAY NORTH, LIKE YOUR CURRENT PLAYGROUND AND THEN JUST MOVE THE PLAYGROUND? YEAH, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE LOOKED AT THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY NOT SURE.
YEAH, NO, I SAW THE EASEMENT ON THE WEST SIDE.
HE JUST SQUARED ME AWAY ON THAT NINE.
SO WE'VE BEEN BANGING OUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, TRYING TO ALL RIGHT.
UM, NO, IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING.
CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE AWHILE.
I LIKED THE PRESENTATION FROM FLOODS ON, BUT THE PROBLEM IS I THINK IF WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING SOME NECESSARILY LEGAL PROBLEM FOR US, IT'S JUST A PROBLEM WITH THEM, THE CITY AND THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY, BASICALLY IN THE END.
I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS IN TERMS OF LEGAL LIABILITY, WHETHER WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WE'RE ALL RIGHT HERE, THIS IS, ONCE THOSE MAPS ARE OFFICIAL, THEN IT BECOMES A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, I WAS SAYING YOU I'VE EXPRESSED SYMPATHY FOR THE APPLICATION SO FAR, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW HIM OFF THE CLIFF.
AND THEN IN SIX MONTHS, THEY'RE BACK HERE.
I THINK THE REAL QUESTION HERE IS JUST, LIKE I SAID, THE APPROVED MAPS AND EVEN WITH THE APPROVED MAPS AND I THINK I'M GOING TO STILL, KRISTEN, REAL QUICK, YOU CAN STAY ON THE MAP THAT THE LINE CLOSEST TO NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT THAT SHOWS WHERE THE FLOOD PLAIN IS ON THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS TODAY, BASED ON THE RIGHT, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO ENCROACH ON EXISTING ALREADY BEEN A PROBLEM? THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE IT'S YOUR POINT.
AND FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DIDN'T AT LEAST MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THE COUNCIL IS SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO MITIGATE.
CERTAINLY THE PROPERTIES ARE READY? YES.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE PROBLEM BIGGER.
OH, THAT WOULD BE AN APPLICANT INCREASE RESPONSE TO THE STAFF.
YOU DON'T TOUCH THE FOOTPRINT OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ALL POST FIVE YEARS AGO.
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WHERE'S IT GOING TO COST ME TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET ON THAT WITHOUT KNOWING THERE'S A GENERAL CONSENSUS FROM THE BASIC MEETINGS, THE, HE MENTIONED AFRICA MENTIONED THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT THAT HIGHER.IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FEMA OR WHATEVER, THERE'LL BE PERMIT ISSUE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT AND THAT'S THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE REQUIRED DURING THAT STAGE.
AND THEN THAT CAN BE SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S PERMITTING IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN.
THEY WILL GO WITH THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS AT THE TIME.
THE FLOODPLAINS PERMIT IS OKAY, THIS IS WHY I'M SAYING I GET THIS.
DO YOU WANT THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION THAT COUNCIL? YES.
WE WANT TO PUT ON THE OTHER HAND, NO, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT THEM IN A FLOOD PLAIN.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE APPLICATION COMES IN A MONTH FOR THOSE FINAL FEMA MAPS OR PROPOSALS VINYL STEP WE'LL REVIEW.
WE'LL REVIEW IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NUMBERS THAT ARE THE MAP THAT WE KNOW TO BE THE MOST CURRENT.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED POST.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE TO LEGAL LIABILITY, THE COMMISSION HERE AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE LEGAL LIABILITIES VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS COMMISSION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UP HERE AND UNDERSTANDS THAT HYPOTHETICALLY APPROVE IT GOES FORWARD.
IF THERE'S SOME FLOODPLAIN ISSUE AND FEMALE LAWSUITS.
SHARON, THERE ARE SOME LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN THEY WERE THINGS, BUT YOU'RE IN THIS CASE, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FROM MY COMMISSIONERS.
I DON'T THINK FOR ONE MOMENT, MR. ROSA.
UM, NO, ACTUALLY THAT WAS A STRUGGLE.
I GUESS ONE THING THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AGAIN, WHEN WE SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMIT, BECAUSE IN FACT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE IN THAT WE HAD ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANNING, DOCUMENTS PREPARED, SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THEY SAID, HEY, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM PNC THAT YOU HADN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ADDRESSED THE INITIAL CITY'S COMMENTS WHEN WE INCREASE THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
AND WE DID ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN APPROVAL HERE, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FIGHTING THE SAME UPHILL BATTLE WE GO FOR, WELL, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY ONLY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN.
BUT IN TERMS OF PROCESS, NO, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE IT UNLESS SHE CAME BACK WITH THE NURSE EVP OR ANOTHER SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING AS A RESULT OF THESE FUTURE POTENTIAL ISSUES.
THAT'S A WEST QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE FLOOD PLAIN PERMIT BUILDING, THAT'S ALL INTERNAL TO THE CITY.
ONCE IT GOES, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY RECOMMENDING THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THAT LAND, WHICH APPARENTLY IS JUST ENHANCED USE OF WHAT'S BEING USED.
AND JUST SINCE YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING
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TO PUT IN A VAPE SHOP, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OKAY.NO, LET'S, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THOSE PROMISES BECAUSE IF THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN FLOODPLAIN AND FLOODWAY CONSIDERATIONS IN THE PAST, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE MEETING.
I'M NOT GOING TO PREDICT THAT, BUT SURE.
I THINK THE SAME LEVEL OF CONCERN IS HERE.
IS THERE REGARDLESS ABOUT CHEMOTHERAPY? ABSOLUTELY.
I GUESS THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION IS THAT WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING OPERATING FACILITY THAT ACCOMMODATES 32 KIDS RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU KNOW, THAT SAME RISK WOULD EXISTS FOR THE EXISTING, JUST AS WELL AS THE, OH, I GOT IT.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DISPUTING THE JOB YOU'RE DOING OR THE BUSINESSES THERE.
IT'S OUR MINIMIZING THAT IT'S JUST TURNING.
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE, UH, THE RULES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE RULES THAT, THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS GOING TO HAPPEN DIFFERENTLY COULD, UH, MAKE IT, UH, A PROBLEM.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, EARLIER, STAFF GOES WITH THE MOST UPDATED MAPS THAT WE HAVE GRANTED, THEY MAY NOT BE APPROVED, BUT THEY'RE FEMA MAPS.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOT APPROVE THEM.
I MEAN THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
PARLOR, IF WE, IF WE DIDN'T KNOW THOSE MAPS WERE OUT THERE, FEMA NEVER NOTIFIED US OF THOSE MAPS, THEN WOULD THIS BE AS BIG OF A CONVERSATION? I THINK IT WOULD STILL BE A CONVERSATION.
JUST NOT AS BIG OF ONE, BUT WE KNOW WHAT THE MAP WILL PULMONARY ARE GOING TO SAY AND WELL, WE'VE GOT THEM.
I MEAN, IT GOES BACK TO THAT MAP THAT I SHOWED YOU WHERE THE FLOODWAY IS.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PRELIMINARY MAPS ARE GOING TO SAY.
DO THEY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT MAYBE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE AS MUCH AS TAKE THE WHOLE BUILDING OUT OF THE FLOODWAY.
SO TODAY WE'RE BEING ASKED TO AMEND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE USE FOR THIS EXPANSION OF A DAYCARE USE, BUT LIKE ANYTHING THAT WE APPROVE, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH PERMITTING AND ENGINEERING.
I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH WE APPROVE SOMETHING, A USE OF SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT GETS TO BE BUILT ANY WAY.
IT STILL HAS CERTAIN CERTAIN RULES TO FOLLOW.
SO TODAY, IF WE DO THIS AND WE APPROVE THE EXPANSION, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH, PERMITTING THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THROUGH FLOOD FLOOD, PLAIN.
SO APPLICANT MAY GET A SHOW OF SUPPORT MAY OR MAY NOT GET A SHOW OF SUPPORT FROM COMMISSIONER COUNCIL, BUT LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY APPROVE AND APPROVE.
UM, OH GOD, I LOST MY POINT THERE.
UM, THE ANSWER STILL MIGHT BE NO IN THE END, BUT I DON'T KNOW, JUST BASED ON FLOODPLAIN INSURANCE FEE, BASED ON THE HYPOTHETICAL Y'ALL JUST GAVE ME WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU WOULD, LET'S SAY YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL TONIGHT.
CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDS OR APPROVES IT AT THEIR MEETING, THEN THEY WOULD COME IN AND IT'S GOING TO KIND OF ANSWER MR. ROSE QUESTIONS.
WELL THEN THEY WOULD COME, YOU'D COME IN.
AND YOUR SITE PLAN THE WAY YOU, THE WAY IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IF THEY MET THE BUILDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND THE FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, THAT ANYTHING I HAD AN TELL ME ONE TIME, YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING IF YOU WANT TO PUT ENOUGH MONEY INTO IT.
AND SO IT MAY COME BACK AND THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION MR. ROWE HAS TO MAKE.
IS THAT OKAY? WELL, I GOT THIS APPROVED, BUT I STILL HAVE TO DO FLOOD-PROOFING.
I STILL HAVE TO BUILD A RETENTION WALL, A RETAINING WALLS, WHATEVER ELSE.
HE STILL HAS TO DO THOSE DRAINAGE STUDIES TO DETERMINE, BUT YOU'RE JUST APPROVING THE SITE PLAN AND YOU'RE APPROVING THE POLICY ESSENTIALLY OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ENCROACHMENT FURTHER APPROACHMENT INTO FLOOD PLAIN INTO FLOODWAY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT, WAYNE DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
I'M LIKE, NO, I'M NOT RECOMMENDING WE DEVELOP IN FLOODPLAINS OR EVEN FUTURE FEMA MAPS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING THAT SUPPORT AN EXISTING BUSINESS IN BEDFORD IS DOING AN ALRIGHT JOB.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
LEGAL LIABILITY OR TELLING YOU, WELL, YEAH, WE APPROVE OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WAIT, DID WE JUST APPROVE ENCROACHMENT UPON DEVELOPMENT IN FLOODPLAINS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN FLOODWAYS THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE GOT TO PROVE TO US.
ARE THEY ENCROACHING THE FLOODWAY DARN DUE DILIGENCE BUDDY ELSE? I HAVEN'T EVEN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING YET.
WEST, THANK YOU, MR. RO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY OR ADD BEFORE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU WILL, AS YOU'VE SEEN THIS EVENING, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS
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AND CLARIFICATIONS I, IN MY RESEARCH OF THESE PROPOSED FLOOD MAPS, ONE OF THINGS I HAVE SEEN IS THAT IN CONTRAST TO THE EXISTING, THAT IT WILL VERY MUCH BE MORE PROPERTY SPECIFIC RELATIVE TO THE MITIGATING FACTORS YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE ON YOUR PROPERTY.AND SO THAT BEING THE CASE, I MEAN, IF WE ALREADY KNOW, AGAIN, BASED OFF OF THE ORIGINAL CONCERNS OF STAFF THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS NOT PLANNED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T BLAME THE HABIT, EXIT RAMPS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND SO WE DID ALL OF THAT, INCREASED THE COST OF THE OVERALL PROJECT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT INITIAL RESPONSE.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU THROW IN THESE PROPOSED FLOOD MAPS THAT SAY THE ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, OUR ENTIRE CHILDCARE CENTER FACILITY IS IN A FLOOD WAY, WE'LL THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.
AND SO IF THERE IS AN INSTANCE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO DO ALL OF THESE, THIS ADDITIONAL WORK AND DUE DILIGENCE STUFF, I MEAN, GUYS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THERE AT A SMALLER FACILITY AND EXPAND, AND YOU'LL LISTEN TO EXPAND IN OTHER AREAS.
UM, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT HERE, AN EXISTING CLIENTELE WITH WAITLISTS AND ALL OF OUR EXISTING CLASSROOMS. BUT YOU KNOW, IT, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE RISKS AND THE, AND THE LIABILITY EXPOSURE.
AND WE TAKE ALL OF THAT ON ALL OF THE INCREASE INSURANCE PREMIUMS, FLOOD INSURANCE, ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BY INSURANCE CARRIERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE MITIGATING FACTORS WE'VE PUT IN PLACE.
BUT I CAN YOU THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO GO PUT UP A, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ADDED COSTS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE FEEL WE'VE ALREADY DONE ENOUGH, BASED OFF OF THE CURRENTLY ENACTED MAPS AND NO ENGINEER IS GOING TO CERTIFY ANYTHING BASED OFF OF PROPOSED MAPS, EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE, EVERYTHING I PRESENTED TO YOU IS BASED OFF OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY ENACTED AS, AS THE FEMA MAPS.
I CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORTH AND COMMENT OR QUESTION, OR IF ANYTHING ABOUT THE APPLICATION, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO JUST DOING A 10, 10 COUNT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS.
ANY COMMENTS, ISSUES, CONCERNS, QUESTIONS.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE P Z S U P 20 21 5 0 0 5 7.
AMENDING THE EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING DAYCARE FACILITY, SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY, MEETING THE BUILDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, A SECOND, IS THAT A VALID MOTION? CAUSE THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY? NO, I I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE MOTION.
I'M JUST, IS THAT A STIPULATION WE CONNECT? CAUSE I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND IT.
YEAH, YOU CAN ADD THAT STIPULATION.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN EITHER WAY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M POINTING OUT.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO ECONOMIZE ARTSY THING TO OKAY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UM, ANDREA ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
I, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT AN EXISTING BUSINESS IN BEDFORD, THIS TRYING TO SPAN, I AM NOT VOTING I TO INITIATE FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OR IN A FLOODPLAIN ENCROACHMENT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SPECIFY THAT AND I KNOW IT'LL BE IN THE RECORDING, BUT I, I GOT TO VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIS.
WHAT? HE SAID, COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY.
COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN, MR. HENDERSON AND COMMISSIONER MARINARA AND THANK YOU FOR ALL.
YOU'RE DOING TO, TO PROVIDE QUALITY CHILDCARE, OUR COMMUNITY CRUCIAL AGAIN, AS I TOLD THE OTHERS, YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO STICK AROUND UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME.
YOU WANT TO SPEND TOMORROW GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND TAKE CARE OF SOME.
DO I TECHNICALLY NEED TO PAUSE OR CAN I JUST DO MY COMEDY ROUTINE FOR FIVE OR NO? I MEAN, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A QUORUM TO CONTINUE.
WE HAVE MEETING IN DECEMBER, RIGHT? WE DO.
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NINTH.AND THEN WE'LL IN ALL LIKELY WE'LL CANCEL THAT MEETING ON THE 23RD, UNLESS I'VE LEFT, I'VE LEFT THE OPTION THAT IF PEOPLE AROUND, WE WANT TO HAVE A MEETING ON 23RD AND THIS BUSINESS I'LL SHOW UP IF I'M IN TOWN, BUT IF NOT, THEN HAVING AGENDAS LIKE THIS, WE MAY NEED, WE MAY NEED TO MEET.
WELL, LONG AGENDAS MEAN INTEREST IN BEDFORD AND UH, THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT OF IT.
THAT'S PAPERWORK CLEANUP LIKE PLATTING AND YOU KNOW, ZONING ORDINANCE, LANGUAGE AND WHATNOT.
I'M JUST STALLING FOR TIME TILL COMMISSIONER QUICKLY RETURNS.
IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE, WE CAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND BEFORE WE GET IN, I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS STICKING AROUND.
I KNOW YOU'RE NUMBER FIVE AND I DON'T SET THE ORDER, BUT THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE.
I KNOW YOU GOT BETTER THINGS ON THURSDAY NIGHT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE AND READY TO DISCUSS.
HE'LL BE BACK, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD.
THANK YOU ANDREW, FOR THE SECOND PART.
[5. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone property legally described as Lot 35 of the JR Murphy Subdivision, commonly known as 2513 Bedford Road, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 0.489 acres, from Single-Family Residential Detached – 15,000 (R-15) to Single-Family Residential Detached – 9,000 (R-9) to allow two single-family lots. The property is generally located at the northwestern corner of Murphy Drive and Bedford Road. (PZ-PUD-2021-50083)]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO NINE CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY.LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 35 OF THE JR MURPHY SUBDIVISION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 25 13 BEDFORD ROAD, BEDFORD, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF 0.489 ACRES FROM SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED 15,000 R DASH 15 TO SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED 9,000 R DASH NINE TO ALLOW TO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF MURPHY DRIVE IN BEDFORD ROAD.
IT'S CASE 5 0 0 8 3 WEST STAFF PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS A REZONING FROM OUR 1500 TO OUR NINE, UH, CURRENT ZONINGS, OUR 1500 CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH, UH, NORTHWEST CORNER OF MURPHY AND BEDFORD ROAD.
UM, THE SITE IS ABOUT 21,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, PROPERTY OR THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DEVELOP TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES.
THEREFORE THEY NEED TO REZONE TO THE
UM, THERE'S REALLY NO MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN THE USES PERMITTED BETWEEN THE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE BIGGEST, UH, DIFFERENCE REALLY I WOULD SAY IS GOING TO BE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, UH, PROPOSED WOULD BE 9,000 VERSUS 15,000 AND THEN THE DWELLING SIZE OF 2000 VERSUS 1500 IN THE R NINE, UM, SURROUNDING USES YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH W UNDER THE
YOU HAVE SERVICE COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST RELIGIOUS FACILITY, TO THE WEST SINGLE FAMILY, TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED TO THE SOUTH MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTH EAST AND ANOTHER RELIGIOUS FACILITY TO THE EAST.
GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHAT PROPERTIES LOOK LIKE AND THE ADJOINING BLOCK AND STRAIGHT CONTACTS.
WHAT, WELL, I SAID IT'S A MINOR COMPLAINT, BUT YOUR PHOTOS GO BACK ONE.
NO, THE SITE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU HAD, THERE WAS LIKE FOUR OF THEM.
CAUSE THE ONES IN OUR PACKET, YOU WENT DIAGONALLY AND THEN YOU WENT BACK, BUT DIRECTLY ACROSS AS THE EMPTY FIELD FROM METHODISTS AND DIRECTLY ACROSS IS THE WALL OF THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS, UH, BEDFORD ROAD.
IT'S JUST GOING BACK AT THE IDEA THAT WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THEIR FRONT DOOR, THEY'RE GOING TO GO WALL, BUT NOT, YOU CAN DO IT.
UM, AS YOU'LL KNOW, WE DO A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FOR A REZONING REQUEST.
THE SITE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
WE NOTIFIED 14 PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE.
AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST TONIGHT.
YOU'RE CONDUCTING YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU'RE TAKING YOUR ACTION.
YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER RECOMMEND, AND I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S AN INCORRECT SLOT.
YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, OR YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.
THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST.
SO YOU DON'T GET TO ADD CONDITIONS TO THIS ONE.
SO SKIP NUMBER TWO AND JUST GO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL RECOMMENDED, NOT, UM, CAN YOU SEE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO I UNDERSTAND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO, TO ALLOW THE ZONING CHANGE TO, SO THIS MAY BECOME TOO LOTS.
DO WE KNOW HOW THIS, THESE TWO LOTS ARE GOING TO BE DIVIDED? ARE THEY GOING TO BE DIVIDED TO WHERE THEY'RE, UM, KIND OF CROSS AND ENTER OFF OF MURPHY DRY? WHEREAS RIGHT NOW THE ENTRANCE IS OFF OF BEDFORD ROAD.
UM, I MEAN TWO LONG LOTS OR GREAT QUESTION.
UM, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT DICTATE HOW THE DIVISION WOULD HAPPEN OTHER THAN IT COULD JUST BE DONE BETWEEN WITH THE TWO, A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS,
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THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TOWER STATES THAT, UM, RESIDENTIAL USES CAN NOT HAVE A PRIMARY, CAN NOT HAVE A ACCESS ONTO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE BEDFORD ROAD WILL BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE DIVIDED, UH, SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS OFF OF MURPHY ROAD.
I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER HAS THIS PROPERTY COME BEFORE US BEFORE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE TALKS OF THAT AND I KNOW THE LOTS TO THE NORTH OR HERE BEFORE TOO.
IN FACT, I THINK WE CITE PLANNED THEM, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THIS ONE CAME UP.
I RECALL IT WAS, UH, IN MY RESEARCH, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE GOING ON FOUR MONTHS, HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE HERE TOO.
BUT ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? NOTHING THAT THERE'S BEEN INTEREST, BUT NOTHING AGAINST.
SHE HAS SIX MONTHS OF KNOWLEDGE AND THAT'S OKAY.
I THINK IT'S THE LOTS ABOVE IT THAT CAME UP HERE ON THE MORNING AND TRUST, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN OUR, IN OUR RECORDS THAT SHOWED FORMAL ACTION DETAILED.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN UP ON OPEN TO MURPHY AND NOT GET SOME BEDFORD ROAD.
I JUST WANTED MY MEMORY, JOHN.
UM, HOLD ON, WAIT, WAIT, HOLD ON.
SO YOU SAID THIS WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED IN THE BIG PLANE IS COMMERCIAL IN THE CONFERENCE PLAY IN THIS IDENTIFIED AS COMMERCIAL USE.
TYPICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS THAT'S A AND AGAIN, I WASN'T HERE WHEN THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND SOME OF YOU ARE, I KNOW, UM, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON THAT YOU WOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL ALONG BEDFORD ROAD AND AT THESE INTERSECTIONS KIND OF LIKE A SERVICE COMMERCIAL THERE TO THE, UM, UH, WAS THAT TO THE WEST IT'S THAT SERVES COMMERCIAL THAT SERVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT WAS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, FUTURE LAND USE AS A GUIDE, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S THE ONLY THING.
SO THAT'S, THAT JUST GIVES YOU A GUIDE AS TO HOW TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS AM I GUESS I DO THINK THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE US BEFORE.
AND IF I RECALL, THEY, THE REQUEST WAS JUST TO REZONE IT TO, UM, A SERVICE COMMERCIAL.
BUT AT THAT TIME, I THINK WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT THE SERVICE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE.
AND WE WERE WANTING THEM TO COME BACK WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A USE AND IT WAS LIKE A PD, BUT ANYWAY, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL USE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN.
WELL, IF ANYBODY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR WEST, UM, AT THIS TIME I ASKED THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO COME FORWARD AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, APPLICATION IN THE PROJECT.
UM, NAME AND HOME ADDRESS AND DOCTORS.
MY NAME IS A MERELY FOSSIL BY, UH, 5 35 6 ELMDALE WE'LL TOGGLE ROAD.
AND TO YOUR POINT, THIS PROJECT HAS COME UP BEFORE.
IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, I WON'T TAKE TOO LONG.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING.
UH, THIS, UH, MY BROTHER AND I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 2018, HOPING TO DEVELOP IT FOR BOTH OF OUR HOMES.
UH, MY SON WENT TO SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET AT THE METHODIST SCHOOL.
UH, I'VE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR, UH, 30 PLUS YEARS OWN MY REAL ESTATE OFFICE IN BEDFORD, WHICH WAS THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING AT ONE TIME.
NOW IT'S HAPPY STATE BANKS, UH, RESIDENTS UP THERE.
WE GREW UP IN THE MID CITIES AREA.
AND SO WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS, IT WAS BASICALLY AN INTENT TO COME BACK HOME AND, UH, BUILD TWO HOMES FOR OUR FAMILIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN OUR LATE FORTIES.
AND SO MAYBE WHO KNOWS, WE'LL GO TO THE 55 COMMUNITY AFTER THAT, A STUDENT, BUT NEVERTHELESS, WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, WE RAN INTO THE ISSUE OF FUTURE USE OF BEING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
AND WE DISCOVERED THAT AFTER WE PURCHASED IT, UH, SUBMITTING PLANS TO BUILD TWO HOMES, UH, WE ARE BUILDERS.
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF.
I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE BROKER SINCE 98.
UH, BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SINCE 2000.
AND TODAY I WORK FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL BANK IN THE UNITED STATES AS, UH, THEIR COMMERCIAL SENIOR EXECUTIVE.
SO I KNOW HOW TO LOOK AT A PROPERTY.
I KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE USE COULD BE.
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY, THERE REALLY WASN'T AN INTENT TO BUY IT FOR A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.
UH, NEVERTHELESS, ONCE I HAD BOUGHT IT, IT WAS MINE.
AND SO FOR TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, UH, WE DEPLOYED EVERYBODY AND THEN SOME THAT WE COULD
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TO TURN IT INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND USE IT FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SUITES.MULTIFLEX, UH, DAYCARE LIKE THE OTHER GENTLEMEN WAS THERE.
UH, WE HAD ZERO INTEREST OF ANYBODY WANTING TO TAKE IT ON AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST PUT A BUILDING UP THERE AND IT GOES BACK TO YOUR POINT THAT THEY WANT THE CITY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO COME THERE BEFORE.
UH, THEY WOULD ALLOW US MOVING FORWARD IN COMMERCIAL AND WE'VE BUILT A TON OF COMMERCIAL IN OUR CAREERS, BUT WE TYPICALLY DON'T BUILD SPEC.
AND SO, UH, YOU'LL HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS OF MY TEAM AND, UH, FOLKS THAT I HIRED, UH, TO PUT THIS PROJECT TOGETHER, UH, FROM 2000 MID 2018 TO TODAY, MY PHONE RINGS EVERY WEEK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY IT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.
AND WHEN I TELL THEM, HEY, I'M READY TO SELL IT TO YOU, BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WITH THE CITY IT'S FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL USE.
THEY HANG UP OR I, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GO FURTHER THAN THAT.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THESE HOME BUYERS THAT ARE AUTOMATE AUTOMATED CALLERS.
THEY'LL COME AND CALL YOU YOU.
AND I'VE HAD PLENTY OF INTEREST.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF BROKERS AND ASSOCIATES WITH ME THAT HAVE TRIED TO MARKET THIS PROPERTY.
NOT ONLY DID I TRY, I HIRED FOUR REAL ESTATE BROKERS, TOTALLY TOP OF THEIR GAMES.
UH, THEY CAN'T REALLY TURN THIS INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WHAT OUR PLAN ORIGINALLY WAS.
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SHY OF ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO PUT TWO PROPERTIES ON.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT TWO, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR OURSELVES AND, UH, MOVED BACK TO BEDFORD AND COME BACK HOME, UH, ESSENTIALLY.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE BUSINESSES IN AND AROUND THE CITY WE'VE DEVELOPED AN INNER AROUND THE CITY.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ASK, UH, ANSWER, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? UM, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR CASE FOR YOU, BUT, UM, IS FROM, AS YOU WANT TO BUILD, TWO HOMES IS 21,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND IT'S ARE 15.
SO 15,000 SQUARE FEET BUILD YOU ONE HOUSE.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE 6,000 OR IT JUST BECOMES ONE GIANT LOT INSTEAD OF THE TWO.
IF YOU LOOK RIGHT ON THE NORTH, THERE WAS ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY BUILDING ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT WHOLE, UH, WHOLE, UH, YOU KNOW, QUARTER ON MURPHY DRIVE RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, PROPERTY GOING UP THERE, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO THAT STREET IS VERY, YOU KNOW, CONDUCIVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND I CAN SEE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DEVELOP A REAL ESTATE AGENT HAT ON CORONARY AND CORNER MEANS CON COMMERCIAL.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M SURE THE FUTURE USE CAME FROM, BUT THIS IS HAVING AN ENTRANCE FROM MURPHY DRIVE.
IT'S TOTALLY CONDUCIVE TO HAVING TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
NO, IT'S FOR DISCUSSION LATER.
UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THE APPLICATION, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED IF NOT THAT'S OKAY.
HOW ARE YOU? UH, HI, MY NAME IS NATHAN CLEM.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 16 3 0 1 LAMONT LANE IN ADDISON, TEXAS A AND I'M HELPING WITH THE DESIGN ON THIS.
SO, UH, I, I BELIEVE, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THEY HAD SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN, UH, JUST A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING THE TWO LIGHTS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE W WE KNEW THAT THE, UH, TRYING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON THE BEDFORD WASN'T WAS A NO-GO.
SO W WE'VE GOT THE ENTRANCE FOR THE DRIVEWAY ONTO MURPHY ROAD.
UM, AND I THINK, I THINK RESIDENTIAL IS PROBABLY THE BETTER USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I GOT TO SAY.
HI, ANYBODY ELSE, PLEASE? ROGER.
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UH, JUST, I WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS, SO YOU DIDN'T DO THE NAME AND ADDRESS THING AGAIN, TOO.UH, 6, 6 0 9 CANDLE CREEK LANE, PLANO, TEXAS, UH, CURRENTLY AFTER BROKE COVID PRE COVID.
IT IS ALL COMMERCIAL WAS GOOD POST COVID AND CURRENTLY STILL COVID IS THAT IN FUTURE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING VESTED IN SHELL WORK FROM HOME AND EVERYTHING, AND COMMERCIAL HAS COME DOWN.
SO BASED ON THAT, IF YOU SEE THIS OCCASION AND EVEN THE FIRST PRESENTATION WHO WAS DOING HERE, THE COMPLETE MASTER MOLARS VACANT, AND THEY ARE DOING PLANK TO HELP.
AND SO I FEEL THIS FIT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL MOST.
MY ADDRESS IS 2 8 4 6 PENINSULA DRIVE IN GRAPEVINE 7 6 0 5 1, BEEN A BROKER FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.
UH, I WAS HIRED TWICE TO TRY TO MARKET THIS PROPERTY.
WE DO ABOUT $80 MILLION IN COMMERCIAL LEASING AND SALES, UH, IN NORTH EAST TARRANT COUNTY, PRIMARILY.
UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE GOT ONE INQUIRY FOR COMMERCIAL MS. PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT IT FROM A DEMOGRAPHIC TRAFFIC COUNT, ET CETERA, NO TRAFFIC GENERATORS.
UM, SO THE NUMBER ONE INQUIRY WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL TYPE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE DO OFFICE RETAIL LEASING ALL OVER NORTH TARRANT AND, UH, IT JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT.
SO I THINK THE ZONING IS KIND OF OFF BASE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
IT TENDS TO BE HIGHEST AND BEST TENDS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
OH, LIKE I SAID, IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT TIME WHEN WE DID THE CONFERENCES, BUT IT'S A CORNER IT'S KIND OF BUSY MAYBE, BUT CLEARLY I GUESS.
MY ADDRESS IS 8 1 3 GLEN ABBEY DRIVE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS.
UM, I AM A COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT AS WELL, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP, UM, MARKET THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAVE TRIED PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WITH COMMERCIAL.
UM, SAME AS WHAT MY CLIENT SAID.
WE DO NOT GET ANY PHONE CALLS ON COMMERCIAL.
UM, I HAVE A LOT OF INQUIRIES ABOUT RESIDENTIAL.
UM, MOST PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW IF IT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT MY CLIENT HAD IN MIND.
UM, AND KNOWING THAT IT WOULD BE A PERSONAL HOME FOR THE TWO OF THEM WITH THE ENTRY ON MURPHY, I THINK MAKES THE HIGHEST AND BEST, MOST SENSE.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THE RESELL IS THERE WITH RESIDENTIAL.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THE HIGHEST OR THE, UH, COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, FUTURE USE WAS THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST A REALLY TOUGH CORNER.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL ON THIS ONE.
WELL, NOT TO BE FLIPPANT, LIKE I WAS WITH COMMISSIONER MELON, BUT IT'S ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL, SO YEAH, IT'S JUST CLEARLY YOU'RE MAKING THE CASE.
IT JUST CANNOT BE DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY UNDER ANY REALISTIC SCENARIO.
ANYBODY ELSE WE HEARD FROM ALMOST THE WHOLE TEAM, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN BILL REESE WAS STILL ON YOUR END CHAIRMAN, WE HAD A VERY MOTIVATED YOUNG MAN COME IN.
AND HE WAS LIVING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA SOUTH OF THE FREEWAY OFF FOREST RIDGE DOWN ONE OF THOSE STREETS.
AND HE CAME IN AND HE, HIS PROPOSAL WAS, HE WANTED TO TAKE TWO LOTS TEAR DOWN THE HOUSES AND BUILD THREE HOUSES AND SUBDIVIDED THREE COMMISSION TURNED THEM DOWN BECAUSE IT LOOKED AND SOUNDED AN AWFUL LOT LIKE SPOT ZONING.
THE REASON I'M NOT THINKING IT'S LIKE THAT IN THIS IS THAT IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, BUT IN, FROM ONE ANGLE, IT'S NOT QUITE DEVELOPABLE.
AND IF YOU DEVELOP A 15,000 SQUARE HOME, YOU HAVE 6,000 SQUARE FEET THAT YOU EITHER INCORPORATE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T BUILD TWO HOUSES ON IT.
SO YEAH, WE ARE KIND OF DOWN ZONING HERE, BUT I DON'T, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE SAME, BUT, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO BRING UP THE PRECEDENT WHEN, WHEN I DO ACTUALLY REMEMBER THE CASES THAT CAME BEFORE US.
UM, I JUST REMEMBER THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY HIGHLY MOTIVATED YOUNG MAN, HATED SAYING NO, BUT IT WAS JUST, NO, THAT SPOT 20, THIS SEEMS LIKE A BIT OF A DIFFERENT CREATURE.
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WENT ON, WELL, I HOPE HE WENT ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS.I MEAN, THE GUY WAS GOING TO BUILD, I'M GOING TO BUILD THREE HOUSES FOR MY FAMILY.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD'S AT ON THIS.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S KIND OF IN THE VICINITY.
IT, BUT THERE'S SOME RATIONALE THERE THAT I THINK MAKES SOME SENSE AND POINT OUT.
IT'S THE SAME DILEMMA WE HAVE.
WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO THESE ODD SHAPED OR POCKET PIECES OF LAND.
AND IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
WE REALLY WANT THEM TO DEVELOP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING MUCH.
NOW ON THE OTHER HAND, A LOT OF THEM ARE DIFFICULT SITES AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DEVELOPED SO LONG.
I'M MONOPOLIZING THE TIME COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, CONCERNS, ISSUES.
OTHER THAN TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT AS I THINK I'VE SAID EARLIER.
SHE'S NOT EVEN AWAKE WHERE YOU'RE WINNING.
WE APPROVE CASE P Z P U D 2 0 2 1 5 0 0 8 3 SECOND.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER QUICKLY.
UM, ANDREW, CAN WE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? CHAIRMAN CARLSON, VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIS COMMISSIONER, EMORY, SORRY, SORRY.
NEVERMIND COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY.
MR. MCMILLAN, COMMISSIONER HENDERSON AND COMMISSIONER BERNARD.
WE RECOMMENDING THAT HE SPENT A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU STILL HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND THAT WILL BE NOVEMBER 23RD.
YOU'RE ON THE NOVEMBER 20 NEXT WEEK.
YOU'RE ON THE NOVEMBER 23RD TRACK.
UM, I WILL SAY THOUGH, PROBABLY PERHAPS MAYBE THE SAME QUESTIONS WILL COME UP WITH COUNCIL IN TERMS OF LIKE SPOT SPOT ZONING, SUBDIVIDING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS WAS A BETTER CASE THAN THE OTHER ONE DISPLACED.
UM, ANY OTHER BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS, STAFF, ALL Y'ALL BEEN GREAT.
AND THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE.
AND THEN, AND I KNOW YOU'RE RECORDING THIS, YOU DID A GREAT JOB RECORDING AND TRANSCRIBING.
UM, I WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE ON MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WELL, SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WE ADJOURN CHRISTIAN WE'RE MILA AND COMMISSIONER HENDERSON.
YOU'RE GETTING THE SECOND ON THIS, WHETHER YOU WANT TO, NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ANYBODY OPPOSED? WE ARE DONE HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONERS.