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[CALL TO ORDER]
MY NAME IS TODD.AT THIS TIME, I ASKED YOU TO SIGN ANYTHING THAT GONNA MAKE ME MORE, GOING TO START FROM THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE AS A VOLUNTEER AND MERCIFUL HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE DO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS.
WE CALL HOME SEEK WISDOM AS WE SERVE THE CITIZENS OF BEDFORD.
AND, UH, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AFTER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY, AND THOSE WHO PROTECT US IN JESUS NAME.
UH, FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH IS ONE NATION IN LIBERTY.
[1. Consider approval of the following Planning and Zoning Commission meeting minutes: a) October 14, 2021, Regular Meeting]
OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE MINUTES FROM OUR OCTOBER 14TH MEETING.DID ANY COMMISSIONERS FIND ANY TYPOS OR MISQUOTES OR MISSPELLS? NO, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 14TH.
UM, WHAT? OH, UH, WHAT'S ASKED IF WE'D JUST SAY AYE OR NAY CLEARLY ON OUR VILLAGE SPREAD ON.
YES OR NO, JUST SINCE HE'S GONE.
UH, ROLL CALL VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
OH, YOU JUST WANT TO DO THE VOICE ALL IN FAVOR.
THE MEETING IS, ARE THE MEETING.
UH, THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING ARE APPROVED.
I'LL BE IN THE ZONE AND EVERYTHING.
[2. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation regarding a request to amend the Bedford Forum Planned Unit Development, providing for a detailed development plan for Lots DR1, ER, and FR1 Block 4, Bedford Forum, located to the west of 3737 Airport Freeway, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 15.5 acres, to allow a 180,000 square feet warehouse distribution center. The property is generally located north of Airport Freeway (SH 183), south of Commerce Place Drive, and approximately 800 feet west of Reliance Parkway. (PZ-PUD-2021-50062)]
ALL RIGHT.WELL, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, TWO ITEMS AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NIGHT.
UH, NUMBER TWO, ON YOUR AGENDA IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDED DATION REGARDING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE BEDFORD FORUM, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOTS OF
GIVE A STEP PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, ESSAY.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PED TO PROVIDE FOR A, UH, DETAILED SITE PLAN.
UM, PROPERTY IS PART OF THE BEDFORD FORUM PUD, JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA IN PUBLIC RECORD GENERAL IDEA OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, BOTTOM PICTURE IS LOOKING FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF AIRPORT FREEWAY.
AND THEN THE TWO TOP PICTURES ARE LOOKING TOWARD THE, UH, SOUTH FROM COMMERCE PLACE.
UH, BEDFORD FORUM PD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1970.
UM, TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS TO AMEND IT, TO PROVIDE FOR THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED A 180 SQUARE FOOT, APPROXIMATELY 180 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
UM, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SURROUNDING, UH, ZONING AND, UH, LANE JUICES, MOSTLY TO THE, UH, WELL TO THE NORTH.
YOU'VE GOT A PED, WHICH IS PART OF BEDFORD FORUM.
UH, AND THEN SOUTH IS CITY VIEW, LISTEN, TEXTILE, RIGHT OF WAY NORTH.
YOU ALSO HAVE OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES AS WELL TO THE EAST.
YOU HAVE A HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING WITH AN AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP AND THEN TO THE WEST IS BED FOR FORUM PD WITH, UH, VARIOUS USES OFFICE DENTAL LAB AND REHABILITATION CENTER.
ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE OUT ON THIS, UM, IN CASE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION WITH THE DOCUMENTS THEY PROVIDED, THERE IS A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT THEY ARE ACQUIRING WITH THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE ACCESS TO THE SITE.
IT'S GOING TO BE OFF OF COMP THAT'S THE RED LINE.
IF YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN, IT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED A LITTLE BIT IN YELLOW FOR YOU AS WELL, TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA.
UM, ACCESS TO THE SITE IS FROM COMMERCE PLACE AND, UH, AIRPORT FREEWAY REAL QUICK POINT ON ACCESS.
THERE IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT NOTICE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
UH, STAFF HAS REVIEWED AT BROAD COMMENTS.
APPLICANT'S ENGINEER HAS, UH, RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS.
STAFF HAS IN GENERAL ACCEPTANCE
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OF THEIR, UM, UH, COMMENTS BASED ON THE REVIEW.A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL INTO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PROVIDED FOR YOU TONIGHT LIMIT THE USES TO OUR CURRENT INDUSTRIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
SETBACKS ALONG STREETS WILL BE 50 FEET AND ON THE INTERIOR SIDE WILL BE 25 FEET MAXIMUM HIGH.
PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED AT 305, VERSUS WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED IF THIS WAS A STRAIGHT ZONING WOULD BE 290 AND THEN A TOTAL LANDSCAPED AREA OF 34% VERSUS THE, UH, PED REQUIRES JUST A MINIMUM OF 10%, JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE TODAY'S ORDINANCE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 20%.
SO JUST TO KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
UM, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DEALERSHIP TO THE EAST OFFICE WAREHOUSE TO THE NORTH AND THEN OFFICE AND REHABILITATION USES TO THE, UH, WEST AS YOU'LL KNOW, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING.
SO WE DID OUR PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS.
WE POSTED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE MAILED, UH, NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN 200 FEET.
IN THIS CASE, IT WAS EIGHT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND AS OF TODAY, WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR, UM, A POST TO THE REQUEST TONIGHT.
YOUR, UH, DUTIES ARE TO CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ASK QUESTIONS, APPLICANT APPLICANT WILL HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION TO MAKE AS WELL.
AND THEN YOU CAN APPROVE SINCE THIS IS A PED.
YOU CAN ALSO APPROVE WHAT CONDITIONS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE SOMETHING COMES OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT CONDITIONS NEED TO BE ADDED TO, OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF MISSIONARY, UH, WES IN YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COMMERCE, THERE'S AN ANOTHER COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE FACILITY WILL IN ADDITION OF THIS ONE, WHAT WOULD THAT DO WITH THE TRUCKS ON COMMERCE, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE? IS, IS, IS THERE ANY CONCERN CONSIDERING THAT OTHER WHERE ELSE COMPLEX? SURE.
I WOULD ALSO ASSUME, AND I'M FAR FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, BUT, UM, THE
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, AT THIS TIME, UH, WE ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVES JUST STEP FORWARD, GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR HOME ADDRESS AND, UH, ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, LEARNINGS TO THE COMMISSIONER.
UH, YOU WILL NOT GET ON A MAILING LIST WITH JUST HOME ADDRESS JUST TO RECORD IN THE POLICY, RIGHT? NO WORRIES.
UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, DEVELOPER OF FORUM BUSINESS CENTER, COMMITTED INDUSTRIAL, UH, 5 7 1 7 LEGACY DRIVE, UH, SUITE TWO 50 PLANO, TEXAS.
YOU LIVE IN YOUR OWN PERSONAL ADDRESS.
IT'S RIDICULOUS, BUT THAT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
8,005, UH, CHALLENGER CHALLENGER LANE.
I DREW A BLANK THERE, FRISCO, TEXAS.
SO, UH, AS MENTIONED, I'M, I'M HERE TO GIVE A QUICK INTRODUCTION ON THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO OUR, UH, PLANNING CONSULTANT, ROB BALDWIN FROM BALDWIN PLANNING, UH, IN SHORT, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THE FORUM FORUM BUSINESS CENTER, UH, BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE HOW WELL, UH, MODERN, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE CAN INTEGRATE INTO A COMMUNITY AND AN INFILL SETTING.
SO JUST TO START OUT HERE, OUR GOALS AND APPROACHING THIS PROJECT, UM, NUMBER ONE WAS TO DELIVER A MODERN REALLY HIGH IMAGE PROJECT PRODUCT ALMOST WITH A FLEX OFFICE SORT OF FEEL, UM, AND HAVE IT REALLY HAVE A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN TO IT JUST ABOVE, YOU KNOW, A BASIC INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
SOMETHING THAT REALLY ADDS TO THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA NOT TAKES AWAY.
UM, AND REALLY THE, THE INTENT THERE IS TO ATTRACT CLEAN, YOU KNOW, CLASS, A USERS TO THE PROJECT AND ULTIMATELY AS WELL, WE'D HOPE TO INSPIRE SIMILARLY HIGH STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SET OUR BEARINGS HERE.
I KNOW WEST ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS.
THE SITE IN QUESTION IS ALONG THE 180 3,
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UH, JUST PAST INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD.IF YOU'RE HEADING WEST, UM, HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE 15.5 ACRE SITE IN CONTEXT WITH SOME OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, EXISTING TENANTS IN PLACE.
YOU HAVE, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USERS IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WAS POINTED OUT POLY COAT PRODUCTS, HORIZON SERVPRO, AND TENANTS LIKE THAT.
OTHER SMALLER TENANTS AND OLDER INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
AND THEN THIS IS, I APOLOGIZE, A BIT DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT WES WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT ONE POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ON SORT OF THE FORCES SURROUNDING THE SITE.
WE HAVE THIS REALLY NICE SORT OF NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THE OFFICE MEDICAL USES THAT ARE PART OF THE PUD NEXT DOOR, BECAUSE THERE'S A DENSE TREELINE WITHIN THE FLOOD, PLAIN IN THE CREEK.
SO IT CREATES A NICE SORT OF NATURAL BUFFER.
UM, THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE OUR FULL, UH, RENDERING OF OUR ACTUAL BUILDING DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY HIGH IMAGE AS MENTIONED, NEUTRAL COLORS, LOTS OF GLASS, UM, ALMOST FEELS LIKE A SINGLE STORY OFFICE BUILDING, IF YOU WILL, AND YOU KNOW, EASY PARKING AND ALL THAT.
UM, HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN WITH THE, UH, LANDSCAPING LAYERED IN, UM, OUR INTENT HERE AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT WEST TOUCHED ON WAS REALLY TO GO ABOVE STANDARD, UM, TO, LIKE WE SAID, ADD CHARACTER TO THE AREA, MAKE IT A REALLY NICE ENVIRONMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE ABUNDANCE OF TREES AND GREENERY, UM, WILL BE FULLY SCREENED FROM VISIBILITY, THE TRUCK COURT WITH DENSE TREES.
AND THEN INSTEAD OF JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR BASE LANDSCAPING, INSTEAD OF JUST SLAPPING A BUNCH OF GRASS, WE ARE INTENDING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE, LIKE A CRUSHED GRANITE BASE, OR, YOU KNOW, ROCK WITH, YOU KNOW, ORNAMENTAL GRASSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN STAFF, UM, HAD ASKED A QUESTION REGARDING HOW WE WERE GOING TO, UH, TIE TOGETHER WITH THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE EAST, UM, GIVEN THAT IT IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SAW CUTTING THAT AND KIND OF INTEGRATING THAT INTO OUR SITE PLAN.
AND THIS IS JUST A COUPLE, UM, SECTIONS FROM OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT SHOW THE SITES WILL BE SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATED TOGETHER BETWEEN THE TWO CURVES WITH A PLANTER BOX.
AND THERE IS A RETAINING WALL OF VARYING HEIGHTS, UM, AND A SAFETY HANDRAIL BETWEEN THE TWO.
AND THEN I WILL HAND IT OFF TO, UH, ROB BALDWIN OF BALDWIN PLANNING TO DISCUSS OUR REQUEST.
THANK YOU AT EATING CHAIR, GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS ROB BALDWIN.
I LIVE AT 603 5 VANDERBILT AVENUE IN DALLAS, AND I'M HERE WORKING WITH ROCCO AND A COMMITTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AS WEST SAID, THIS IS THE FORM OF A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW THAT DOES USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT WE'RE COMING INTO AMENDED DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS BUILDING.
UH, WE ARE INCREASING THE LANDSCAPING, CREASING, THE SETBACKS, UH, BRINGING IN MORE PARKING WE NEED.
AND AS ROCCO WAS SAYING, UM, OUR, UH, INTEGRATION WITH OUR PROPERTY NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THERE'LL BE A SEAMLESS, UH, WE'LL HAVE A LANDSCAPE BED ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE OUR TRUCK PARKING WOULD BE ON ONE SIDE IN THE CAR, PARKING ON THE OTHER.
SO IT WOULD BE CARS, THE CARS INSTEAD OF CARS TO TRUCKS.
UM, WE HAVE DONE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
IT'S BEING REVIEWED BY THE CITY, UH, PRELIMINARY, UH, ANALYSIS IS GREAT AND, UH, THERE'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE'RE HA WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON OUR, OUR NICKEL, UH, WON'T COST THE CITY, ANYTHING.
AND THAT WILL HAPPEN DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS IS WHEN THAT WILL ALL GET WORKED OUT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WEST SAID, MAXIMUM HEIGHT, 50 FEET, UH, 50 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK, UH, MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 30 FEET.
THE LANDSCAPING PLAN ATTACHED TO IT AND THE FLOOR RATIO OF 0.4 TO ONE AND RE PARKING TOWARDS CITY CODE.
UM, WE, WE HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS.
WE THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
STAFF'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING, PUTTING OUR FEET TO THE FIRE TO MAKE SURE WE COME UP WITH A GOOD DESIGN.
AND WE THINK WE HAVE, UH, IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF LANDSCAPING, UH, A LOT OF, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN TO MEET THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE UNDERLYING PD.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, WE HAVE A WHOLE CREW HERE OR ANYBODY YOU MIGHT NEED THIS.
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LIKE TO ASK ONE, UM, WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY, UH, TRUCK TYPES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN A TRACTOR TRAILER IS THE MEDIUM SIZE SMALL, UH, WHAT WOULD IT BE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE DEPENDENT ON FUTURE CLIENT, BUT, UM, FUTURE OCCUPANT, BUT IN JUST AS WHAT YOU ENVISION.AND IT, IT DOES DEPEND ON THE FUTURE USER.
THE TRUE BUILDING IS DESIGNED FOR TRACTOR TRAILERS WITH 135 FEET OF SPACE FOR TRUCK COURTS.
UH, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE USERS, UM, WOULD BE USING THAT TYPE OF TRUCK PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE DOCKS.
THAT BEING SAID, THIS TYPE OF BUILDING IS NOT TYPICALLY USED FOR HEAVY DISTRIBUTION.
THAT'S MORE OF THE LARGE, VERY BULK DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSES.
THE BUILDINGS YOU SEE IN ALLIANCE.
THIS, UM, TYPICALLY HAS A HIGHER OFFICE PROPORTION.
WE'VE DESIGNED IT WITH UP TO 20% OFFICE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OUR TIA DID ACCOUNT FOR THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET ALMOST SHOWROOM SORT OF TENANTS IN THIS, THIS ENVIRONMENT, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY OF THESE TRUCKS TYPICALLY WOULD COME IN BE COMING IN AND OUT? I DIDN'T SEE THE TRAFFIC YET, THE TIA.
SO I'M JUST SORRY IF I'M COVERING GROUND, THAT'S BEEN TRIED AND BUBBA.
HOW MANY DOCS AND THEN 55 DOCS I BELIEVE.
AND IDEALLY YOU'D BE RUNNING ALL 55, UM, ALL DAY, I WOULD SAY, NOT NECESSARILY THIS IT'S MORE, THE NUMBER OF DOCS IS MORE A FUNCTION OF CHECKING THE BOX FOR THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY RIGHT.
UM, TO BE QUITE HONEST IN MY EXPERIENCE, THESE TYPE OF BUILDINGS ARE RATHER SLEEPY WITH RESPECT TO TRUCKS.
UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT WITH CERTAINTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE USER AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT IT COULD THEORETICALLY BE UP TO 55 TRUCKS.
WELL, I THAT'S, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS LOOKING AT THIS AND THEN, BUT I SAW THE RIGHT TURN BAY IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON THE FRONT END ROAD, MORE TRUCKS ON COMMERCE, OUR ROADS NEED TO BE PAVED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO, HOW MANY TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE GOING TO BE POUNDED OUR ROADS AND MANEUVERING ON OUR FRONT END ROADS ON WE'RE DOING THAT.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED.
THAT, UH, TRIP GENERATION, UH, WAS ALL ADDRESSED IN THE TIAA AS WELL AS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC THAT WENT ON TO TRAFFIC COUNTS TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.
AND, AND, AND THEY ADDED A COVID FACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WEREN'T UNDER COUNTING, UM, BY EXPERIENCES THAT THESE KINDS OF DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TRIPS AS YOU THINK THEY DO.
UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE CARS.
IF YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE 300 PARKING SPACES FOR CARS AND ONLY 55 SPACES FOR TRUCKS.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE AN AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE VANS COME IN AND GO OUT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A DAY, UH, NOT, NOT WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOP.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH.
UH, YOU PROVIDED US A NUMBER OF VIEWS IN YOUR PRESENTATION HERE.
LOOKING AT IT FROM THE 180 3 QUARTER SIDE, WHICH OF THESE VIEWS DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE FROM THAT VIEW? AND THEN WHAT WOULD YOU SEE FROM THE COMMERCE STREET SIDE? UM, I'M READING THIS DRY ROCKWOOD JUMP IN.
IF I'M NOT TH THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD, THIS IS THE SIDE THAT'S FACING 180 3, RIGHT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE, AS YOU COME THROUGH ON THE FREEWAY, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE SCREENED BY THE OVERPASSES.
AND AS 1 21 COMES IN AND YOU, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HERTZ NEXT DOOR, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE MUCH OF THAT ANYMORE.
AND SO WITH THE COMBINATION OF THE TREES AND BEING SET BACK 50 FEET FROM THE HIGHWAY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE MUCH OF IT FROM THE FREEWAY.
NOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THE COMMERCE STREET.
IT COULD HAVE, COULD YOU PUT THE LANDSCAPE SLIDE UP WHERE IT HAD THE PLANTINGS AND THE TREES AND YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE, THE LEFT SIDE IS 180 3 OF THE FRONT OF JORDAN, RIGHT? SO 180 3 IS ON THE LEFT AND YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THE DUAL ROW OF TREES ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO HELP SOFTEN IT, UH, ALONG WITH THE DISTANCE BACK FROM THE ROAD.
WELL, YOU'VE GOT SOME NICE DESIGNS HERE.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHICH OF THE CONFIGURATIONS WOULD BE FACING DURING THE, OF EACH OTHER.
THE BOTH ENDS WILL LOOK THE SAME.
UH, BUT THIS ONE, THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE BIG ONES THAT
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ARE FILLED.THERE ARE KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT THEY'RE, THERE'S TREES.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEM RIGHT THERE.
I HEARD YOU SAY THERE WAS A CREEK RUNNING BY IT.
DID, DID THE, WAS THAT A DIFFICULT DESIGN ELEMENT TO MAKE WORK? I MEAN, IS IT FLOODPLAIN OR WHAT KIND OF CREEK IS IT OR JUST A, THERE IS, THERE IS FLOODPLAIN THERE.
UM, AND IT'S KINDA, IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THIS, BUT IT DOES SHOW IN OUR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
MY NAME IS JEFF DOLAN WITH KIMLEY-HORN ADDRESS IS 10 18 BARBELL AVENUE IN FRISCO.
UH, SO AS, AS, UM, ROB WAS MENTIONING, YEAH, THERE IS FLOOD PLAIN ALONG THAT CREEK.
UM, WE'RE PLANNING TO EITHER AVOID IT OR JUST, UH, BE RIGHT ON THE SKIRT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
WE'VE WORKED WITH CHERYL THE CITY AND KIND OF TALKED THROUGH OUR APPROACH AND PROVIDED A LETTER TO HER IN TERMS OF, UH, THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, ULTIMATELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING THE BUILDING WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, MIGHT JUST BE RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
AND WE'RE CONFIDENT WITH THE MODELING THAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS, THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS FOR, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
YEAH, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ANTICIPATING NO IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, OTHER THAN TYING IN STORM DRAINAGE THAT NEEDS TO ULTIMATELY DRAIN TO THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, JUST TO ANSWER SINCE I'M HERE NOW, UH, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, UH, THROUGH THE TIA, WE DID LOOK AT COMMERCE PLACE.
FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY IT OPERATES AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE A OR B, UM, EVEN AFTER OUR PROJECT DEVELOPS, IT WILL STILL BE AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE A OR B, UM, JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
UM, AND WHAT INTERSECTIONS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN THE PEAK HOUR, WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, IN THE AM PEAK HOUR, ABOUT 86 TRIPS, UH, COMING TO THE SITE OR LEAVING THE SITE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOMEBODY WHO MENTIONING TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, GENERALLY WHAT WE FIND IS MAYBE ABOUT 10% OF THOSE TRIPS ARE TRUCKS.
UH, SO IF WE HAVE 86 IN AN HOUR, THAT'S EIGHT OR NINE TRUCKS IN THE PEAK HOUR, UH, WHICH REALLY JUST ISN'T THAT MUCH AND NOT REALLY IMPACTFUL.
SO, UH, VOLUMES AREN'T THAT HIGH.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO TRUCKS, JUST REALLY NOT THAT HIGH.
PLEASE ON YOUR TRUCK DOCKS, ARE THEY TAPERED DOWN FOR, UH, SO, SO THE PAVING IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK COURT IS A RECESSED FOUR FEET FROM THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THE TRUCK COURT'S GOING TO TRAIN AWAY FROM THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE, ON THE TRUCK COURT SIDE, THE BUILD, THE BUILDING'S GONNA LOOK RAISED TO THE FLOOR BEFORE FEET HIGHER IN THE PAVEMENT.
AND AS YOU TRAVEL AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, NOW THE PAVING COMES UP TO MANAGE MATCH THE FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, THE SCREENS.
ARE THEY SMALL BUSHES? THEY'RE NOT TREES, ARE THEY? YEAH, YEAH.
ANTICIPATE SCREENING TREES THERE.
SO THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THEM, BUT EVEN WHEN THE TRUCK'S SITTING THERE WITH ALL THE TREES, BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY TALKING TO TRUMP, CORRECT.
UH, W COULD YOU NOT PUT BUSHES OR SOMETHING TO COVER UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OR IS THAT GONNA MATTER? I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INTENT IS TO FULLY SCREEN WITH GREENERY.
SO, UM, IF YOU KNOW THAT IT BECOMES NECESSARY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
SO YOU CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY THERE WITH GREENERY.
UM, IT SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM FOR THE PROJECT.
BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S OUR INTENT.
AND WE WANTED TO DO THAT IN LIEU OF, YOU KNOW, A CONCRETE WALL, BECAUSE WE JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK BETTER.
IT WOULD FIT MORE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE REALLY DO WANT IT TO HAVE A GOOD ABUNDANCE OF TREES AND USE THAT INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING A BIG CONCRETE WALL.
UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING SINCE WE'RE, WE HAVE VERY LIMITED DEVELOPABLE SPACE THAT, THAT OUR CHANNELS HAVEN'T BEEN MODELED IN A REALLY LONG TIME.
SO WAS THAT A STRUGGLE FOR YOU GUYS? OR HOW DID YOU, YOU SAID YOUR MODELING WORKS AND I'M JUST MORE THINKING ABOUT THE DOWNSTREAM FOLKS.
SO WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FROM A MODELING STANDPOINT IS, UH, WE LOOK TO SEE IF OUR SITE IS GOING TO IMPACT THE F THE PEAK FLOWS OF THAT CHANNEL.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE DELINEATE THE TOTAL WATERSHED THAT DRAINS THROUGH THAT CHANNEL THAT COMES, COMES BY OUR SITE.
UM, AND WHEN WE DID THAT, UH, I COULD PULL UP THE REPORT.
I HAVE IT HERE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 500 TO 600 ACRES
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OF LAND DRAIN TO THAT CREEK AS IT DRAINS BY OUR SITE.AND SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR PROJECT IS IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN THE RAIN HITS THIS TOTAL 600 ACRES AND INCLUDING OUR SITE, THE RAIN WATER'S GOING TO COME IN THE SITE, HIT THE SITE DRAIN THROUGH OUR ONSITE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM AND INTO THE CHANNEL AND CONTINUE DOWNSTREAM BEFORE THE PEAK FLOW FROM THE OVERALL 600 ACRES THAT MAY TAKE A 30, 60, 90 MINUTES TO ACTUALLY FEED THROUGH ALL OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND GET DOWN TO OUR SITES.
SO BY THE TIME THE PEAK FLOWS COME BY THE CHANNEL AND COME BY OUR SITE, OUR SITE DRAINAGE HAS ALREADY CONTINUED ON DOWNSTREAM.
UM, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE LOOKED AT FROM A MODELING STANDPOINT.
AND WE ANTICIPATE KIND OF SUBMITTING A STUDY TO THE CITY, UM, AND MODELING TO PROVE ALL OF THAT UP WITH OUR ENGINEERING PLANS.
I, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT MIGHT BE FOR STAFF, BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER IT, THAT'D BE GREAT TOO.
THE STRUCTURES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE MULTISTORY.
I LIKE TO AT LEAST KNOW YOUR MAXIMUM OR 50 FEET.
AND JUST TO HOW THAT COMPARES INTO, UH, TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS.
I'M JUST THINKING ALONG THE CORRIDOR, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER MYERS ABOUT SCREENING AS THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE BUILDING AND TWO BUT ONLY TWO STORIES AND 50 FEET WITH SCREENING.
BUT I JUST WANT TO, IN CONTEXT, IS IT, OR THE HERTZ BUILDING TO THE EAST OF US? UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TALL IT IS, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TALL BUILDING.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY, I, I THINK IT WAS AN A CHEVROLET DEALERSHIP OR SOMETHING.
AND, UM, SO IT, IT'S GONNA BE TALLER PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN US, BUT ALSO SINCE THEY WIDENED THE FREEWAY, IT'S RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE TO WHERE WE'RE SET BACK 50 FEET.
SO, UM, WHEN I DROVE IN HERE THIS EVENING, I LOOKED TO SEE WHAT I COULD SEE.
AND FROM THE FREEWAY MAIN LANES, UH, YOU SEE THE HERTZ SIGN, WHICH IS ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AND YOU SEE THE TOP OF THE TREES.
AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VERY DIFFICULT TIME SEEING US UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU, YOU SEE IT GET WENT BY THE TIME YOU GET PAST HURTS, YOU'RE ALREADY PAST OUR SITE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY MY WORD JUST, YOU CAN STILL SEE IT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE SMALL.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOM WHITE BLOCK THERE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I JUST WANT TO TELL HER I HAVE THE GUNS.
UM, YOU WILL BE INVITED BACK UP IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS THAT MAY COME UP, IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO.
WELL, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THE, UM, APPLICATION, UH, PLEASE DO SO NAME, HOME ADDRESS ON IT.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? COME ON OUT.
I'M ACTUALLY HERE FOR ANOTHER CASE, BUT INTERESTED IN THIS ONE, UH, I'M AT 36 12, SO VERIO TRAIL BEDFORD.
UH, SO I MEAN, YOU GUYS TALKED A LOT ABOUT LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION AND LIKE HOW THE BUILDING'S GOING TO LOOK THE LANDSCAPING, THE FLOOD, WHAT'S LIKE THE ECONOMIC VALUE PROPOSITION HERE.
LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF FREE RESEARCH ANALYSIS.
LIKE, I MEAN, I GUESS MAYBE IT'S TOO EARLY IN YOUR PLANNING, BUT LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOME, SOME TYPE OF INITIAL ANTICIPATION, MAYBE CERTAIN USE CASE SCENARIOS, DEPENDING ON THE TENANTS, OR WHOEVER'S GOING TO BE UTILIZING THE BUILDING.
SO JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE IT, WE DON'T NECESSARILY DEAL.
LIKE WE KNOW THE CITY NEGOTIATES DEALS AND THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS IS MORE USED, YOU SAID THAN DONE, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO LET US KNOW THE AGENDA, BUT THAT'S A PERFECTLY VALID QUESTION.
JUST NOT IN OUR BALLYWICK NO, ABSOLUTELY VALID QUESTION.
AND WE DO HAVE A ROUGH ANSWER FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DID STUDY IT AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE IS EXPECTED TO EMPLOY 50 TO ABOUT 200 PEOPLE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE 200 PERSON EMPLOYMENT.
WE WILL ACCOUNT FOR THAT WITH THE PARKING OF 309 SPACES.
THESE JOBS ARE AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS 1849 AN HOUR.
UH, AND THAT'S THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
IT COULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, HERE.
THANK YOU, MR. UM, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP STILL GOING TO DO A FIVE COUNT JUST IN CASE THOUGHT? OKAY, FINE.
BECAUSE ONCE I CLOSE IT, IT'S CLOSED, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, OTHERWISE, UH, WE CAN SEE IF WE'VE GOT A DECISION HERE
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QUICKLY, HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE NUMBERI SLEPT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE NUMBER PZ PUD 2 0 2 1 5.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
UM, WESTFIELD RECORDED THE VOTE, BUT I'M GONNA, UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL ALRIGHT.
THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
UH, GENTLEMEN, WE ARE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY.
YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND GET THE OFFICIAL APPROVAL.
WHEN WILL THAT BE WITH NOVEMBER 23RD, NOVEMBER 23RD.
[3. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation regarding a request to rezone property legally described as Lot A of the Concordia Addition and both North and South Parts of Lot A of Wesleyan Addition, commonly known as 3705 & 3709 Harwood Road, Bedford, Texas, and consisting of 10.268 acres, from Single-Family Residential Detached – 9,000 (R-9) to Planned Unit Development to allow a 53 single-family lot subdivision with the average lot size being 6,400 square feet. The property is generally located on the north side of Harwood Road, approximately 675 feet east of State Highway 121. (PZ-PUD-2021-50073)]
ALL RIGHT.OUR NEXT ITEM TONIGHT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA.
IT IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY.
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOCK A OF THE CONCORDIA ADDITION AND BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH PARTS OF LOT A OF WEST LA WESTLAND EDITION, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 3,705 AND 3,709 HARWOOD ROAD, BEDFORD, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF 10.268 ACRES FROM SAM SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED 9,000 R NINE TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW A 53 SINGLE FAMILY, LOT SUBDIVISION WITH THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE BEING 6,400 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARWOOD ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 675 FEET EAST OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 WEST STAFF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, AS SAID, THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION FOR PROPERTY COMMONLY LOCATED AT 37 0 5 3709 HARWOOD ROAD, UH, SITE PICTURES YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE.
UM, THE ONE ON THE FAR LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CHURCHES THAT CURRENTLY OCCUPIED THE SITE.
MIDDLE'S PICTURE IS GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF A STRAIGHT VIEW FROM HARWOOD ROAD PICTURE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER CHURCH THAT CURRENTLY OCCUPIES A SITE.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM PICTURE KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHAT THE BACK PROPERTY LINE LOOKS LIKE.
UM, REQUEST SUMMARY IS FROM AN R NINE, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL MINIMUM 9,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOT TO PUD FOR A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO CHURCHES ON THE SITE THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
W UH, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD, AND THIS IS A 53 LOT RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT GROSS, ACRE, OR GROSS DENSITY OF ABOUT 5.16, UM, MINIMUM LOT SIZE BEING PROPOSED IS A 5,500 SQUARE FOOT, A LOT SIZE WITH THE AVERAGE BEING 6,300 THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT SETBACKS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, OF THE MD THREE ZONING DISTRICT.
ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY MIRROR THEM EXACTLY THE MD THREE ZONING DISTRICT, 15 FEET ON THE FRONT SIDE, FIVE FOOT AND REAR 10 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET OR TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
AGAIN, VERY COMMON IN ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
MINIMUM DWELLINGS, UH, SIZES WOULD BE 1750 SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH AN AVERAGE OF 2000 SQUARE FEET.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF IDEA OF SURROUNDING AREAS TO THE, UH, NORTH OF THE SITE.
YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY THAT IS ALSO MD THREE ZONING TO THE NORTH.
UH, YOU ALSO TO THE NORTH, UH, WEST CONDO, YOU HAVE A SELF STORAGE FACILITY TO THE WEST.
YOU HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER, AND THEN TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE A, UH, ANOTHER CHURCH, UH, ST.
I BELIEVE UTILITY CONNECTIONS.
UM, MOST OF THE CONNECTIONS ARE BEING MADE FOR WATER TO HARWOOD ROAD.
AND THEN, UM, UTILITY CONNECTION IS BEING MADE THROUGH AN ALREADY DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY OF WILLOW DRIVE.
IT'S NOT PROPOSING TO BE IMPROVED.
IT IS DEDICATED, IT'S NOT PROVED TODAY, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO CONNECT THEIR SANITARY SEWER THROUGH THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY SUBDIVISION SCREENING.
THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE A SIX FOOT, UM, MASONRY WALL TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA ALONG HARWOOD DRIVE OR HARDWOOD ROAD, AND THEN ACCESS TO THE SITE IS GOING TO BE, UH, TWO POINTS ONTO HARWOOD ROAD.
GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE WEST ST.
MICHAEL'S CHURCH TO THE EAST, AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT OR PARTIALLY VACANT.
THE ONE OF THE BIG BOX RETAILERS THEY CAN'T.
AND THEN, UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, UNITS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE TO THE SOUTH.
AGAIN, WE DO PUBLIC NOTICE FOR ALL REZONING.
UH, WE POSTED A SUN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE NOTIFIED 20 NON-PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FEET, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE BACK.
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THAT THIS MORNING, WE'VE NOW RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES BACK WHAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR DESK TONIGHT, THAT BEING SAID WILL, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, TAKE ACTION.UM, YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS SINCE THIS IS A PUD, OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL WITH THAT.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
WES, IS THE FINGER GOING TO THE NORTH THERE? THE LONG NARROW STRIP? IS THAT A SEPARATE LOT COMPARED TO THE SQUARE ONE AT THE BOTTOM? LET ME GO BACK.
MY CLICKER STOPPED WORKING ON ME EARLIER.
SO MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I MAY, I CAN HELP WITH THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S ADDRESS? 57 37 0 7.
THIS IS THE NEW, NO, I GOT THEM AND JUST STAY, RUN STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK.
I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT THERE'S UP A LOT THERE, SO IT'S ALL RIGHT.
AND THEN IN THE PROPERTIES OF THE CHURCH, COME IN AND WE APPROVED IT, THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THE ENTRANCES.
SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT HISTORY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THE ONE THING WITH MR. CHAIRMAN, EXCUSE ME, UH, THE GARAGE SETBACK GARAGE DOOR SET BACK, IS THAT THE STANDARD IN MP3? WE DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT IN RMD, THREE ORDINANCE OF THE GARAGE SETBACK.
SO THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, THANKS.
UM, AT THIS TIME I'D ASK THE PETITIONER OR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND HOME ADDRESS.
AND TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT THE PROJECT.
CHAIRMAN CARLSON MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON JIM DEWEY WITH J JR ENGINEER.
I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXHIBITS, UH, BEFORE YOU I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE HOPEFUL DEVELOPER HAS BOTH OF THESE CON OH, MY ADDRESS.
42 67 TOWN LAKE COURT, IRVING, TEXAS.
LET'S SEE, WHERE WAS I LIVING? I'M HERE REPRESENTING I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HOPEFUL DEVELOPER WHO HAS BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CHAIRMAN COSTEN, THERE ARE TWO EXISTING PLANTED LOTS.
AND ONE IS THE KIND OF THE LONG BOWLING ALLEY.
A OF COURSE, THIS WILL BE REPLANTED IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED INTO THE CONFIGURATION, UH, THAT IS SHOWN ON THE DRAWING.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE R NINE, BUT DUE TO THE LOCATION WITH THE COMMERCIAL ADJACENCY AND THE ADJACENCY OF THE MD THREE ON WHAT WOULD BE THAT TO NORTH SIDE, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONAL ZONING, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND WE AGREE WITH STAFF THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE FOUR QUESTIONS THAT THEY LOOK AT TO SEE IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THIS AREA, THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION ON OUR NORTH SIDE IS MD THREE.
AND THEIR LOT SIZES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO US ARE ALL 47, 25, 4,725.
OUR MINIMUM LOT IS 5,500 AND OUR AVERAGE IS 6,300.
SO IF OUR AVERAGE IS 6,300, THAT'S 800 MORE THAN 5,500.
SO FOR EVERY 5,500, WE HAVE ONE 800 BIGGER THAN THE 6,300 OR 7,100.
SO THERE IS A GOOD RANGE OF LOT SIZES HERE.
THE WHITE IS IN THE INTERIOR AREA THAT FRONT ONTO THE STREETS.
THOSE ARE OVER 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE MAJORITY OF THE ONES BACKING UP TO THE CHURCH ARE THE 5,500 AND THE REST ARE IN BETWEEN THAT.
UM, WE FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS AND ENGINEERING CONCERNS.
WE WILL BE PROVIDING STORMWATER ATTENTION, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY, SO THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES.
CURRENTLY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY DRAINS ONTO THE ADJACENT CHURCH PROPERTY.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THEY'RE MUCH LOWER.
THERE'S AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL ALONG THE EAST LINE.
THERE'S NO STORM DRAIN ON THIS SITE.
IT'S SIMPLY ALL DRAINS INTO THEIR PARKING LOT, AND THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH AND INTO THEIR INLET
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SYSTEM ON HEAVY EVENTS, HEAVY RAIN EVENTS.WE WILL BE PICKING ALL OF THAT WATER UP AND PUTTING IT UNDERGROUND EXCEPT FOR ONLY THE REAR YARDS OF THE LOTS THAT WILL BE A BUDDING THE CHURCH.
SO THEY WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN DRAINAGE ON TO THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CHURCH, THE NEXT DOOR CHURCH AND KEEPING THEM ABREAST OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THEY, I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS OR LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING POSSIBLE NEW CONGREGATION MEMBERS NEXT DOOR, THESE HOUSES.
AND I THINK THIS MAY A LOT OF MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO FIND OUT THESE HOUSES WILL START AND RUN MID FOUR HUNDREDS AND GO UP FROM THERE.
SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONCERN.
I THINK I WAS FORTUNATELY COPIED ON ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT CAME IN TODAY.
I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THE SECOND, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR MAIN CONCERN WAS THEY WERE AFRAID IT WAS GOING TO BE LOW IN HOUSING OR STARTER HOMES.
AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE.
UM, ONE OF THE DRIVING FACTORS FOR THAT, AND I'M JUST BEING COMPLETELY HONEST IS THE CHURCHES ARE GETTING A VERY FAIR PRICE FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO BUY THE PROPERTY FOR, THEY CANNOT BE STARTER HOMES.
THEY SIMPLY HAVE TO BE IN A MARKET THAT IS, UH, EXCEEDS THAT QUITE A BIT.
WE ARE BUILDING THE MASONRY WALL ALONG HARWOOD.
THERE WILL BE SOME ENTRY FEATURES AND PROBABLY SUBDIVISION NAME.
UH, THE REST OF THE PROJECT WE'LL HAVE A NEW WOOD SCREENING FENCE, AS THE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED.
UH, THERE'S EXISTING FENCES ON THAT NORTH SIDE.
WE CAN COOPERATE WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD RATHER KEEP THEIR FENCE, OR LET US GO AHEAD AND BUILD A NEW FENCE.
OR, UH, WE ARRANGE THIS CONFIGURATION.
SO, UH, THE LOTS NEXT TO THE SELF STORAGE DO NOT BACK UP TO THE SELF STORAGE.
SO THEY WILL HAVE LITTLE IMPACT FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT.
IN ADDITION, THAT SELF STORAGE WAS DEVELOPED.
THERE'S NO DOORS OR ACTIVITY ON THE BACKSIDE, UH, SLOWLY BE LITTLE IMPACT OR NOISE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO STORAGE FACILITIES TYPICALLY HAVE VERY LOW TRAFFIC COUNTS, VERY LOW TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
PEOPLE DON'T VISIT THERE OR GO TO THEIR STORAGE UNITS VERY OFTEN.
AND SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'LL BE ANY IMPACT BEING ADJACENT TO THAT FACILITY AND THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT WE'RE ALSO ADJACENT TO, AGAIN, WE'LL BE BUILDING A SCREENING FENCE, THAT'S THE BACKSIDE OF THEIR SHOPPING CENTER.
MOST OF ALL THE ACTIVITY AS IT OCCURS IN THE FRONT.
UH, SO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'LL BE LIMITED IMPACT ON THESE PARTICULAR RESIDENTS IN THAT LOCATION WITH THAT.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THIS SUBMITTAL.
WE, WE FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, THANK YOU MR. DOIN COMMISSIONERS, HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
SO ALONG THAT THAT WOULD BE THE WEST SIDE, OR YOU HAVE SHOPPING CENTER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ALLEY RIGHT THERE.
THOSE, ALL THOSE BUSINESSES BACK UP TO THAT.
SO YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT AND THERE'S ALREADY SOME TREES ON THIS LOT.
SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AS FAR AS FENCING THERE? IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE REGULAR RESIDENTIAL FENCING FOR YOUR WE'RE GOING TO DO A VERY NICE WOOD SCREENING FENCE AND ALONG LAND.
AND ARE THERE PLANS TO KEEP MANY OF THOSE TREES IF POSSIBLE? THAT IS ALWAYS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THERE ARE SOME VERY NICE TREES IN THIS PROPERTY.
AND I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN TRYING TO SAVE AS MANY AS WE CAN.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THE MAJORITY OF THEM.
AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THE VAST MAJORITY ARE FALLING IN THE CENTER IN THE PADS ITSELF.
AND EVEN THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME, BUT I FEAR THAT OUR DRAINAGE DESIGN, UH, IS GOING TO HAVE TO, USUALLY WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE GRADE AT THE END.
IF YOU CHANGE THE GRADE AND A TREE, IT WILL EVENTUALLY DIE.
SO IT'S ALWAYS, I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALWAYS, YOU HATE TO LOSE THE TREES, BUT BY PLANTING AT LEAST ONE TREE ON EVERY LOT, IT'S ONLY FIVE OR 10 YEARS AND YOU HAVE MORE TREES THAT ARE THERE NOW, AND THEY WILL ALWAYS THRIVE BECAUSE THEY WERE PLANTED IN THE CURRENT CONDITION.
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THERE WAS MANY TIMES, EVEN IF WE SAVE THEM, THE LOSS OF PERMEABLE SURFACE WITHIN THE DRIP LINE ALSO CAN AFFECT THE TREE, ESPECIALLY LONG-TERM MAY NOT AFFECT IT THE FIRST YEAR, BUT IT CAN CATCH UP WITH IT IN A FEW YEARS LATER.AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE ALONG, UH, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, UM, THE GRADE DIFFERENCE DOES THAT GO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE ALL THE WAY AT THE FRONT? IT'S QUITE, OH, IT'S THREE OR FOUR FEET.
AND WE'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE RIGHT THERE ON THE LOW SIDE.
AND IF YOU DRIVE IN THEIR PARKING LOT, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE BLACK STAINS WHERE ALL OF THIS WATER OVER HERE HAS BEEN JUST POURING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.
I LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE, SO YEAH, I'VE SEEN WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND JUST FOR A LITTLE BETTER EXPLANATION, KIND OF IN THE CENTER OF THAT SQUARE IS THE HIGH POINT OF THE PROPERTY.
IT ACTUALLY KIND OF SOME OF IT, NOT THE MAJORITY, BUT SOME OF IT ACTUALLY DRAINS TO WHERE THE SHOPPING CENTER, WE HAVE DONE A PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLAN.
THAT'S GOING TO ALSO REDUCE THE DRAINAGE ON, IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
ROLLING AGAIN, LET THE REAR LOTS OF THOSE LOTS GO OVER THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE PICKED UP WITH UNDERGROUND STORM DRAIN SYSTEM AND TAKEN INTO THE DETENTION POD.
BUT BY DOING THAT, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY SAFE DESIGN TO PROTECT ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THAT IS WHAT I'M FEARFUL OF WILL CAUSE THE CHANGE OF GRADE IN THE CENTER, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET EVERYTHING TO DRAIN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SAVE AS MANY AS WE CAN.
WHERE'S THE RETENTION POND ON THAT FAR NORTH END, NORTHEAST ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, AROUND WHERE THE CIRCLE.
AND TO OBTAIN THE REQUIRED DETENTION VOLUME THAT THE CITY REQUIRES THAT WE'LL HAVE A RETAINING WALL AROUND IT WITH A GRASS BOTTOM, UH, IT WILL BE FENCED SO THAT THERE'S NO ACCIDENTS FOR CHILDREN.
UH, THE ONLY TIME THAT WILL HAVE WATER IN IT IS IMMEDIATELY AFTER A HEAVY RAIN EVENT.
TYPICALLY IT DRAINS OUT WITHIN 30 OR 40 MINUTES, EVERY NORMAL SUMMER SHOWER, EVEN KIND OF A HEAVY ONE, THERE'LL BE NO BACKUP IN THE POND, BUT WE GET YOU START GETTING UP INTO THE STORMS. FIVE-YEAR STORM 10 STORM UP TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.
THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THE TENSION THAT BACKS UP INTO THAT PUMP.
ONE, DID YOU GIVE ANY CONSIDERATION TO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE WILLOW STREET EASEMENT OR NON-DEVELOPER STREET AS A BACK END EXIT ENTRANCE? HOW DO YOU SET DIVISIONS THAT HAVE BOTH ENTRANCES AND EXIT BEING TO HARWOOD SINCE IT STREET AID EXISTS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY NICE OPTION FOR US, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS ONLY HALF OF THE REQUIRED RIGHT AWAY WAS DEDICATED FOR WILLOW.
AND IT ALL CAME FROM THE TWO CHURCH PROPERTIES.
THE IT'S ONLY PART OF IT'S 25 FOOT WIDE AND PART OF IT'S 30 FOOT WIDE.
AND THE MINIMUM STREET IS 50 FEET WIDE.
SO WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
FORTUNATELY, UH, FOR BOTH STORM DRAIN AND SANITARY SEWER HAD THAT NOT BEEN AVAILABLE, WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE GOOD AMAZEMENT THROUGH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THAT SOMETIMES IS, CAN BE DIFFICULT.
SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE CAN USE IT FOR UTILITY PURPOSES, BUT IT DOES NOT MEET CITY STANDARDS THAT WE CAN, UH, PAVE IT AND USE IT FOR A PUBLIC STREET.
ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO ASSESS EASEMENT, TO BAKE ANOTHER STREET TO WHERE THIS IS A PASS THROUGH SUBDIVISION? I DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOOK PLACE.
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOR DO I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAD THEM BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT SIMPLY WASN'T AN OPTION.
I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF DEAD END.
UM, THEY ARE VERY POPULAR FOR BUYERS, BUYERS LOVE CUL-DE-SACS.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE CHURCH HAD, THEY BEEN APPROACHED WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, PLAT PROPERTY AND WE DEVELOPED STREETS ONCE THIS DEVELOPER PURCHASES THE PROPERTY AND WE PLANT IT, HE IMMEDIATELY DONATES ALL OF THAT STREET RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY AS A CONDITION OF GETTING APPROVAL.
AND SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET
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ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS WILLING TO GIVE AWAY THEIR, OKAY, UNDERSTOOD QUESTION.NUMBER TWO, REAL QUICK CURRENT EVENTS IN BEDFORD, WE HAVE A NEW PARKING ORDINANCE IN THE CITY.
IT INVOLVES HOW WE PARK IN RESONANCES, YOUR 20 FOOT GARAGE DOOR SETBACK.
WON'T ALLOW THE MOST POPULAR VEHICLE IN TEXAS, A PICKUP TRUCK TO PARK WITHOUT VIOLATING THAT PARKING NEW PARKING ORDINANCE, THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT CARS, NORMAL PICKUP TRUCKS, 22 FEET LONG.
IT'LL BE ENCROACHING ON THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS VIOLATION OF THE NEW ORDINANCE.
NOW THIS IS A NEW THING, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF THOSE DRIVEWAYS COULD BE SOMEWHAT LONGER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ILLEGALLY PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY IN THEIR NEW SUBDIVISION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN HAS KIND OF BEEN AT THE CITY STANDARD.
SO WE WERE JUST COMPLYING WITH THE CITY STANDARD.
WE WERE NOT AWARE OF ANY NEW PARKING ORDINANCE I CAN CONSULT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
IF WE CAN PUSH THE DRIVES A COUPLE FEET BACK, OUR CURRENT PRODUCT, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU IS A SET UP FOR THE 20 FOOT.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH PROBLEMS IN THIS CITY.
WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND, I SAW THAT DISTANCE.
I JUST KNOW HOW LONG MY TRUCK IS AND IT'S LONGER THAN 20 FEET.
SO IT SEEMED LIKE, AND LIKE A SHORT DRIVEWAY, YOU WOULD THINK WITH TIME TRUCKS DON'T GET BIGGER AND BIGGER, BUT THEY'RE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER SURPRISINGLY, BUT THANK YOU.
THIS MAY BE AN ODD QUESTION, BUT IN RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IT'S GONE TO COMMUNITY MAILBOXES.
IS THERE A, AN ALLOWANCE HERE FOR THAT? I DON'T SEE THAT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
WE HAVE THAT THE DETENTION AREA A LOT.
THERE'S SOME AREA THERE THAT COULD EASILY ACCOMMODATE THE GROUP MAILBOXES.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE IT'S NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED.
WE NORMALLY TRY TO MAKE THEM CENTRALLY LOCATED, BUT SINCE ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE FRONT ENTRY, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO PUT THE MAILBOXES IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.
BUT THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM AT THE DETENTION LOT FOR ALL OF THE MAILBOXES TO EASILY FIT THERE.
AND WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT.
I WAS, UH, IT'S WELL, THE MAIL, THE MAIL DELIVERY PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT PRETTY MUCH DROVE THAT BUS.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A BEATEN ON ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS WE DID.
THAT IS A REQUIREMENT IN EVERY CITY IN THE METROPLEX IT'S IT'S IT'S IT SAVES THE POST OFFICE SYSTEM, LOTS OF MONEY INSTEAD OF DOOR TO DOOR.
NOW MY MOTHER WAS IN A TOWN OWNED DEVELOPMENT IN NORTH FORT WORTH, AND THEY HAD A COMMUNITY MAILBOX UP BY THE POOL, BUT IT WAS TWO BLOCKS OFF.
BUT YEAH, I WOULD THINK YOUR MOTHER IS AT THE AGE WHERE SHE ENJOYED DOOR TO DOOR MAIL DELIVERY FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, ACTUALLY MY QUESTION OR ISSUE OR CONCERN, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR CITY STAFF, BUT I'LL TAKE ANY ANSWER YOU GIVE, BUT SO 53 TIMES TWO PLUS THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH MORE.
200 TRIPS A DAY MINIMUM GENERATED BY THE SUBDIVISION.
PROBABLY MORE, UM, HARDWOOD ROAD REALLY ISN'T SET UP IDEALLY FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS TRAFFIC.
THERE'S THERE'S JUST A SPLIT IN THE MEDIAN ON STREET.
A, THE STREET BE OPENED UP TO ME.
IT'S PROBABLY VERY HARD TO SEE ON THIS DRAWING, BUT WE HAVE SHOWN THE LONGEST.
IT MAY BE NOT THE LONGEST TURN LANE YOU'VE EVER SEEN, BUT WE ARE WILLING AND DESIRING TO CREATE A NARROW THAT EXIST IN MEDIAN AND DO GET A COUPLE OF CARS OUT OF THE LANE OF TRAFFIC IT'S SAFE SO THEY CAN MAKE IT TO THAT SPACE.
BUT THERE'S NO FORMAL LEFT TERM.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING THE LEFT TURN.
OH, HE'S MODIFYING THE MEDIUM PART OF THE BEEF.
THAT'S NOT CLEAR AT ALL ON THAT.
IT'S JUST, YOU HAVE IMMEDIATE NEEDS.
THE STREET IS WHAT I'M SAYING ON THE DRAWING.
SO YOU ARE, WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A LEFT TURN ONLY FOR STREET A WE CANNOT CONFIGURE STREET B AND MEET THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING ONE TURN LIGHT.
SO MOST OF THE TRAFFIC I WOULD THINK WOULD LEAVE AND GO TO THE HIGHWAY.
THERE MAY BE SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, GO EAST ON HARDWOOD SO THEY CAN DO THAT THINKING OF THE U-TURN TO GET THE STREET BE.
CAUSE I LIVE OVER ON THE STREET B
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ONTO HARWOOD, BUT THE LEFT TURN BAY IS HEARTENING BECAUSE I, IT WASN'T CLEAR HERE.AND IT'S JUST ONE, ONE POINT, GO AHEAD.
THE STREET A OR STREET B, DO THEY LINE UP WITH THE CURRENT DRIVEWAYS OF THE TWO CHURCHES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE? NO.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN OPENING IN THE STREET THERE FOR, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE WANT, IT'S VERY CRITICAL, UH, ACCESS IN AND OUT OF A SUBDIVISION IS VERY CRITICAL.
AND FOR THE BUYERS, I MEAN, THEY LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, WE NEED ACCESS TO THE MEDIAN OPENING HERE.
WE'RE PROVIDING THE LEFT TURN LANE.
I WOULD HOPE IF THE CITY FEELS LIKE THAT YOU TURN MOVEMENT, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS CAUSING ANY TYPE OF DANGER.
I WOULD THINK YOU COULD PUT A NO U-TURN SIGN THERE.
NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HONOR IT, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD, ALRIGHT, HARWOOD'S NOT A THRILL.
HARLOT IS NOT A THRILL OF THE DRIVE AND GOING IN AND OUT.
AND
WELL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT A LEFT TURN BAY.
UM, SO I HAD ANYBODY HAVING OUT ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT, FAMOUS NOOYI.
UM, AS I TOLD THE GENTLEMEN, BEFORE IT PUBLIC, WHATEVER PUBLIC COMES, COME UP, IF YOU WISH TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED.
AND BEFORE I SAT DOWN, THE DEVELOPER, ZACH PAN OF KEY LIFE HOMES IS HERE.
HE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF Y'ALL HAVE THEM ABOUT THE PRODUCT THEY'RE PROPOSING OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THEIR COMPANY.
THEY BEEN IN BUSINESS WELL OVER 30 YEARS, THEY HAVE BUILT ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES FROM STARTER HOMES TO VERY LUXURIOUS, HIGH END HOMES.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THIS PRODUCT TO BEDFORD.
UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO OPEN IT.
IF ANYBODY HERE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE APPLICATION, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND HOME ADDRESS AND PLEASE ADDRESS ALL YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.
HI, MY NAME IS PATRICIA CRUZ AND I LIVE AT 35 0 5 PERRY WINKLE COURT IN RUSTIC WITH SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS JUST TO THE EAST OF ST.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY THE PRESIDENT OF RUSTIC WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED.
WE WOULD ASK THAT IT NOT BE CHANGED FROM OUR NINE AT THIS POINT, AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO TALK TO THE R H O A AND THE BANDERA HOA TO MAKE SURE THAT NEITHER OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE HARMED.
UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF HOUSES IN A RELATIVELY SMALL SPACE, AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC, UM, ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS WHEN THE CHURCH SHIRTS LET OUT DURING, UM, HIGH COMMUTE, ERIK TIMES LIKE THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY, THEY WERE COMING HOME FROM WORK GOING TO WORK.
AND SO ADDING 53 HOMES COMING IN AND OUT OF HARWOOD, AS WE'RE TRYING TO GO TO WORK OR COME HOME FROM WORK IS CONCERNING TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY SAID THAT THE AVERAGE PRICE WOULD BE 400,000 OR THE BEGINNING PRICE WOULD BE 400,000, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE BANDOLEROS M THREE OR MD THREE OR, AND SO WERE WE, BUT IN RUSTIC WOODS, THE STANDARD, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SMALLER, THEY AREN'T.
UM, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE WHEN IT WAS EITHER ONE WALMART OR RUSTIC MEADOWS WAS BUILT THAT THAT CREATED A DRAINAGE PROBLEM FOR RUSTIC WOODS ONE.
AND WE'RE JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN UNDER THE ROAD, WHATEVER, TO THE CULVERT THAT GOES BEHIND RUSTIC WOODS.
WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED THAT WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT 29 HOME HOMEOWNERS WERE NOTIFIED THAT ARE 200 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE, HAD ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN BANDERA AND RUSTIC WOODS BEEN NOTIFIED BECAUSE IT IMPACTS ALL OF OUR HOMES IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE MATERIAL, UM, THAT THE HOMES ARE BUILT LIKE RUSTIC WOODS WERE ALL BRICK.
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JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTERIOR AND HOW IT LOOKS.I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE RIGHT ALONG ST MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH WHERE THE WHEREVER THEIR PARKING LOT IS, THAT'S WHERE THE WALL IS HIGHER, BUT WHEN YOU GET, IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT THOSE ARE BASKETBALL KIND OF COURTS WHERE AN EXCESS PARKING THAT, WHERE THAT ONE LOOP IS, AND THEN YOU GO AND THERE'S THAT PATHWAY.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE ON THE BACK SIDE? UM, WHERE THE PATHWAY IS, WHERE IT'S NOT THE RETAIN THE RETAINING WALL BECAUSE OF THOSE FENCES, A WOOD FENCE THAT A COMMON, UM, SO, UM, SORRY.
UM, PRIVACY FENCES THAT PEOPLE PUT IN THOSE DETERIORATE VERY FAST HERE IN TEXAS.
AND SO WE'RE CONCERNED WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I TOOK A PICTURE TONIGHT WHEN I WAS WALKING MY PUP OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, AS WE COME UP FROM RUSTIC WOODS TO SAY, WALK TO THE CHURCH, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL VIEW, AND THOSE HOUSES ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY.
SO, SO IT, ALL OF THESE THINGS IMPACT RUSTIC WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE FROM THERE, BUT I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THE OTHER DAY, SOME WHO DID NOT GET THE NOTICE, EVEN THOUGH THEY BACK UP TO THAT WALKING PATH AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF, BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK EVERYONE? YEAH.
SO I'M AT 36, 12 SILVERIA SO THAT'S MY STREET.
UM, THIS IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
UM, I HAVE A LOT OF MATURE TREES, SO I KIND OF SECOND THAT IF WE CAN SAVE AS MANY OF THE TREES AS POSSIBLE, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.
UM, BUT I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY VALUES.
AND I THINK IT REALLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP AND A GREAT LOCATION.
IT'S VERY CONVENIENTLY LOCATED IN THE METROPLEX SINCE I HAVE FAMILY IN DALLAS, FORT WORTH, I GUESS WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND, UM, I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE NEW HOUSES IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S JUST MY OPINION.
MY NAME'S JOEL PEARSON AND BRUSH LIGHTNING HURDLES.
MY CONCERNS START THIS I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHART THE LINE.
BUT ANYONE THAT HAS EVER SAT AT THAT STOPLIGHT HARDWOOD, IT GETS VERY BACKED UP SPECIALTY HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES ADDING ANOTHER 50 OR A HUNDRED DRIVERS TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAN GET DOWN TO THE LANE AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR IT TO BACK UP TO YOU.
THE OTHER THING I DO HAVE INTERNET ON EDGE.
WE GET, WHEN WE GET ONE OF THE POEMS THAT BACKS UP TO THAT DRAINAGE CREEK, THAT GOES BY THE HOUSES IN THE WOODS, WE GET MASSIVE WATER AND CAUSING A ROSHAN IT'S HOMEOWNER MAINTAINED.
I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING WATER RESERVOIR AND THAT MIGHT HELP ST.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL DRAIN COVERT AFTER THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY STUDIES DONE ON THAT.
SO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS CONCERNS RELATED TO THEM, SO LET ME ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.
THE DRAINAGE, ISN'T IT, THAT CULTURE FOR 1 57, IT'S BACK TO THE COLDER IS IF YOU GO FURTHER EAST, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, WHICH WILL GO TOWARDS HARWOOD.
I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN, BECAUSE WE GET, THAT WAS CLEAR.
THAT RETENTION POND IS TO TIE INTO CITIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO CATCH UP THE WATER NORMALLY WOULD FLOAT OVER INTO ST.
MICHAEL'S AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHIP IT UNDER TOUGH HARWOOD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THERE IS A CULVERT THAT GOES UNDER, UNDER MEDFORD.
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DRAINS FROM THE SITE ST.MICHAEL'S PROPERTY BACK UNDERNEATH, BACK UNDERNEATH THE FOREST.
ALSO BE SOMEWHAT HELD BACK BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SIZE RETENTION BOND RIGHT THERE ON CUMMINS.
I SAID, I JUST, I KNOW WHAT WE SEE.
AND I MEAN, LITERALLY AFTER A LARGE STORM, WE WON'T LET OUR CHILDREN GO OUT AND PLAY HERE THERE, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIKE A RAPID, I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1 21 RIGHT OFF COMING.
HI, MY NAME IS JOHN MEYER ELEVATE, UH, 3 6 2 0 SILVER SILVER AREA TRAIL, UH, IN THE BAND BANDERA, UH, EDITION.
UM, THE SOUTHERN MOST PART OF MY PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY ADJACENT TO THE WESLEYAN PROPERTY.
UM, MY PROPERTY AND THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTY SOUTH OF ME, THE WISLEY AND PROPERTY, UH, HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
OUR RAINFALL DRAINAGE, GREAT, NO STANDING WATER, NO HARM TO MY PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TREES BACK THERE, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HEALTHY AND GROWING SOME IN FACT, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE, UM, NEW TREES GOING ON.
HAVEN'T BEEN THERE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, BRAND NEW.
SO THAT WHOLE AREA BACK THERE, THE NORTHERN MOST PART OF THE, UM, OF THE WESLEYAN PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S WILD AND NO ONE'S TOUCHING IT.
UM, ARE NOT AWARE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVING A, ANY OTHER ISSUES WITH YOU JOINING PROPERTY OR S OR, OR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WESLEYAN PROPERTY, WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE, THE, UM, THE VERY NORTHERN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS VERY CLOSE TO, NOT JUST LOT BY MY NEIGHBORS LOT, THOUGH, THE ENTIRE BACK OF THE BANDERA PROPERTY UNITED CONCERNED THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON POSSIBLY DRAINAGE A RAINWATER.
UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST THE BUILDING.
I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE MADE THE, THE, THE MAIN PART OF IT NEAR HARWOOD ROW.
THAT'S, THAT'S EASIER TO DRAIN, BUT THE NORTHERN WAS PARKED THERE ON, THAT'S NEVER BEEN TOUCHED, UM, IN WITH, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, HOW'S THAT GONNA AFFECT THE, THE, THE RAIN FLOW AND THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE TREES, THE TREES ARE VERY POSITIVE.
UM, THEY KEEP THE SOIL PREVENT SOIL EROSION AESTHETIC.
UH, THEY PROVIDE SHADE, NOT JUST FOR MY PROPERTY, BUT FOR, UH, FOR MY NEIGHBORS ALSO, UH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KEEP THOSE, UM, THE PROPOSED PLAN.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE A MEASURE ON IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT AROUND 20 TO 25 FEET AWAY FROM OUR, OUR, THE BACK OF THE BENDERA PROPERTY.
AND I'M CONCERNED THAT'S A LITTLE TOO CLOSE THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE LAND THERE AND WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT, UM, THE BANDERA, UH, PROPERTIES THAT, UH, ADJOINED TO THE WESLEYAN PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I WOULD PREFER, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS, THAT DEVELOPMENT BE PUSHED FARTHER SOUTH, AND WE HAVE MORE OF A BUFFER ZONE, UH, AT THE BANDERA, SO THAT OUR, OUR PROPERTY, OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR WHOLE, OUR WHOLE DIVISION, UH, WE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD VERY FEW ISSUES BACK THERE IS IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE.
UM, AND WE LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
UM, AND CERTAINLY I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, JUST THE CLOSENESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE ENTIRE, UH, BANDERA ADDITION, ESPECIALLY MY PROPERTY, SINCE I'D BE IN THIS, THIS WILL BE DIRECTLY BEHIND ME.
CAUSE YOUR LOT, ONE OF THE, EITHER 18, 19 OR 2120 AND THERE, OKAY.
JUST SAY NO, WE DON'T GENERALLY INTERROGATE THE PUBLICLY THE APPLICANT.
SO, UM, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT.
I WANTED TO ASK, UM, MR. DEWEY, WELL, LET ME MAKE SURE, OH, SORRY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO CLOSE IT AND LET HIM, WELL, THIS IS STILL PUBLIC HERE.
I'M ALWAYS IMPRESSED WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, IT MEANS YOU HAVE GOOD CITIZENS THAT CARE ABOUT THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.
AND IT'S A GOOD SIGN TO HAVE THAT I WOULD, METRO THERE HAVE PEOPLE COME AND LEARN ABOUT OUR PROJECT.
MOST OF THE TIME, IT'S MISUNDERSTANDINGS NOT UNDERSTANDING THE EXHIBITS THEY WERE GIVEN.
UH, WE LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF DRAWINGS EVERY DAY.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T AND THEY CAN BE VERY CONFUSING.
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BEFORE I ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER QUICKLY.I'M LOOKING AT THE NORTH END OF THIS, WHERE I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS A WILLOW DRIVE AT THE FAR END OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PROPERTY.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT'S HALF A ROAD, HALF A ROAD.
AND I CAN SEE WHY THE CHURCH WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO GIVE IT UP BECAUSE THEY'D HAVE TO THEN LOSE HALF OF THEIR JOGGING TRAIL.
IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT IF THERE ARE TREES ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE, YOU COULD LEAVE THOSE ALONE.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MISCONCEPTION WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE DO NOT BUTT UP AGAINST THEM.
AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THIS WILL ALMOST EXTEND REESE THAT DOES EXTENDS BEHIND OUR PROPERTY.
IT DOES NOT CONTINUE ON THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THAT MEDICAL OFFICE, THERE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING BOTH OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO EACH OTHER.
REQUESTING SOME TYPE OF BUFFER IS JUST NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND IT'S NOT TYPICALLY REQUIRED IN THIS CASE.
SO THERE WON'T BE NEAR AS CLOSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A REAR SETBACK FROM THERE.
SO THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE 50 FEET AWAY.
AND I HOPE THAT HELPS THEIR CONCERN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO GO TO SEE THIS.
CAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME MAPS THAT WE DO, BUT WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IS THERE'S A, THIS IS 25 FEET HERE IN WHAT? THIRD OR THIRD? A FEW YEARS.
AND THEN THE HOUSES, THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THESE LOTS OF BACKUP, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE THAT WILL BE 50 FEET FROM THE BACK OF ANYBODY AT BANDERA AND THEN THE TREES THAT ARE IN THIS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT A BUFFER ZONE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE YOURS TO BULLDOZE ANYWAYS PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THE TREES AT THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS JUST UP HERE, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEFT ALONE.
AND I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER ABOUT THE TREES.
AND THERE, THERE MAY BE A COUPLE IN THE BACKYARDS THAT CAN SAY THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE WON'T BE CHANGING THE GRADE.
AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO START TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.
DRAINAGE IS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT.
IT TYPICALLY CAUSES THE MOST PROBLEMS AND RESULTS IN THE MOST LIABILITY IF IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY.
THE LAST THING I WOULD DO AS AN ENGINEER, I'VE GIVEN MY OATH TO GET MY SEAL THAT WE PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IN ADDITION, THE CITY STAFF HERE IS VERY, VERY CAPABLE.
Y'ALL HAVE A VERY GOOD CITY ENGINEER THAT WILL REVIEW OUR PLANS.
THEY WILL ALSO BE SENT OUT TO A THIRD PARTY FOR REVIEW AND ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT COULD EVEN COME UP WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
I KNOW I'VE DONE THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
IT'S VERY COMMON FOR HOMEOWNERS TO NOT TRUST DEVELOPERS OR I CAN JUST, I JUST CAN GUARANTEE YOU, THERE WILL NO BE NO DRAIN IS ISSUES.
AND AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT TO OUR NORTH, WE DO NOT DRAIN OUR PROPERTY.
DOESN'T DRAIN ONE SINGLE DROP NOW THERE.
AND SO IT WILL NEVER DRAIN THERE ALL OF THIS PROPERTY OR THE VAST MAJORITY DRAINS ONTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
AND WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT.
NOW ONE MISUNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER QUIGLEY IS WE'RE NOT TAKING IT TO HARWOOD.
NONE OF OUR PROPERTY DRAINS TO HARWOOD.
WE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BECAUSE THE SYSTEM, THE STORM SEWER PIPES IN HARWOOD WERE NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE THIS EXTRA FLOW.
AND IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY IS MUCH LOWER THAN HARDWOOD.
SO OUR DRAINAGE FROM THAT DETENTION POND IS GOING TO GO THROUGH WILLOW LANG OVER TO FOREST DRIVE, MAKE A HARD 90 AND TIE INTO THE EXISTING THAT GOES UNDER FOREST ROAD, WHICH GOES BEHIND THEIR HOUSES.
BUT WE ARE BEING REQUIRED TO NOT INCREASE THE PEAK FLOW.
WELL, LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.
WHAT CAUSES DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF WATER.
IT'S THE RATE AT WHICH THE WATER COMES.
IF THE WATER IS COMING AT A RATE THAT EXCEEDS THE CAPACITY OF THE SYSTEM, YOU START HAVING FLOODING.
SO BY PROVIDING TENSION, WE'RE NOT HOLDING THE WATER FOREVER.
WE'RE SIMPLY HOLDING IT AND LETTING IT OUT AT A MUCH LOWER RATE EQUAL TO, OR LESS THAN WHAT IS GOING THERE.
NOW, IF THEY HAVE CURRENT DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THEIR PROPERTY,
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WE CAN'T MAKE THEM BETTER, BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL NOT MAKE THEM WORSE.UM, WE, WE SIMPLY AREN'T ALLOWED TO THE CITY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.
UM, AND AGAIN, OUR SEWER GO THAT WAY.
SO I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.
I HAVE EQUAL CONCERNS IF SOMETHING WAS DEVELOPING NEXT TO ME NOW, TRAFFIC, I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO GET A GRASP AROUND.
SOMETIMES I KNOW HARDWOOD IS A BUSY ROAD, BUT THAT SECTION WAS FOR TWO LANES IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE THE DEVELOPED TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD.
AND IF THE CITY ENGINEER WAS HERE, SHE WOULD SAY, THE ROAD HAS THE CAPACITY FOR THE NEW TRAFFIC, 53 HOMES COMPARED TO ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH HARWOOD.
AND IT GOES QUITE A WAYS TO THE CITY IS A NEATER MOUNT COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT'S ADDING TO IT.
NOW, I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, BUT I AGREE.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF CAPACITY FOR ME.
I BROUGHT UP EARLIER BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY QUESTION THAT THE LEFT TURN IN THE ANGLE, ESPECIALLY ROADWAY DESIGNS, TRAFFIC, AGAIN, THAT'S RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT IS A ULTIMATE PRIORITY OF BOTH THE DESIGN ENGINEER IN THE CITY.
WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO PUT IN THE LEFT TURN LANE TO MINIMIZE ANY TYPE OF ACCIDENT AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TREES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, PUSH FOR THE LARGER LOTS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S ASKED FOR THE LARGER LOTS LIVES ON SMALLER, LOTS THAN WE HAVE.
UM, I DID RESEARCH TODAY JUST TO MAKE SURE I WOULDN'T MISS MISSPEAK.
THE SALES PRICE OF THESE HOMES ARE GONNA FAR EXCEED THE SALES PRICE IN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
AND ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE VILLAS OF RUST RUSTIC OAKS ARE.
SO IT IS CALLED RUSTY COPES AND THEIR TYPICAL APPRAISED VALUE.
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL IT FOR MORE VARIOUS FROM TWO 20 TO ALMOST 300.
UM, IF WE AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY, I THINK IT WILL BE A BENEFIT.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK PROPERTIES THAT ARE MORE THAN A THOUSAND FEET AWAY ARE REALLY DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT SHOULD IT IMPACT THEM? I THINK IT MAY HELP RAISE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND BE A POSITIVE FOR THEM IF THEY EVER SELL THEIR HOUSE.
I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS SUBDIVISION WAS LARGER LOTS, NEWER HOMES, HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HIM.
AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ASKED SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS THAT IS CONTAINED IN OUR ZONING CASE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED BECAUSE THIS IS A PUD.
AND WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A STRAIGHT SONY, WE ARE ALLOWED AND PREFERABLY THE STAFF WANTS US TO DO THIS AGREEING TO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT FAR EXCEED THE MINIMUM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THOSE RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS, UNFORTUNATELY, DON'T GET THIS REPORT.
SO ALL OF THESE HOUSE WILL HAVE A MINIMUM OF 75% MASONRY, EXTERIOR THAT CAN BE BRICK STONE AND OTHER MASONRY PRODUCTS.
THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FLOOR PLANS WITH THREE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS AVAILABLE FOR THE BUYERS.
THE MINIMUM ROOF PITCH WILL BE SEVEN AND 12.
I AM CERTAIN THAT THAT IS A, UH, BETTER SLOPE THAN PROBABLY THOSE WERE BUILT A LITTLE LONG AGO.
IT JUST WASN'T COMMON TO DO SEVEN AND 12 AT THAT TIME.
ALTHOUGH I DO NOT KNOW THAT I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.
UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE OPTIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES SUCH AS DORMERS, ARCHED, WINDOWS, STONE, FACADES WITH ADDITIONAL STONE DETAILS, DECORATIVE CEDAR ACCENTS, DECORATIVE PORCH RAILS, AND COLUMNS AND FRONT LIGHTING.
EVERY HOUSE WILL HAVE THE UPLIGHTING BUILT INTO THE SO THAT HE TURNED ON THE LIGHTS AND THE FACADES OF THE HOUSES HAD LIT UP.
IT MAKES FOR A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE PRODUCT IN THE EVENINGS.
SO WITH THAT, I HOPE I HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
THEY ASK GREAT QUESTIONS, THE SAME QUESTIONS WE NORMALLY GET ASKED, AND I REALLY HONOR AND APPRECIATE THEIR INPUT.
WE WANT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND WELL-KEPT WHICH THEY ARE.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE SAME.
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DAVIS, I'M REPEATING IT FOR THE RECORDING.SO PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
IF ANYBODY WISHES TO COME, WHO HASN'T ADDRESSED CN OR WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AGAIN, WE DO A LOT OF THAT.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT OUR HOME VALUES ARE NOT IN THE 200 VALUE, THOUSANDS AND RUSTIC WOODS, THAT WE ARE NOT RUSTIC MEADOWS, WHICH ARE THE TALL SKINNY HOUSES BEHIND THE WALGREENS.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT JILL AND OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS ALONG THE CREEK HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST THAT IS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE WHEN IT WAS BEING DEVELOPED.
AND SO THAT IS A HIGH CONCERN OF OURS.
AND WE'RE NOT ASKING THAT IT NOT BE PUT IN.
WE'RE ASKING THAT IT BE POSTPONED FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE.
UM, WE WANT BEDFORD, I'VE LIVED IN BEDFORD.
I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN BEDFORD FOR LIKE 35 YEARS.
I'M COMMITTED TO THIS COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE BEDFORD BEING A PRIME PLACE TO LIVE AND THE QUALITY AND THE HOUSING.
AND SO WE'RE NOT SAYING NO COMPLETELY, BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE.
I MEAN, THEY MIGHT HAVE PUT A NOTICE ON THE CHURCH.
I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE UP FOR SALE.
WE W THE RESIDENTS WEREN'T NOTIFIED AND WHEN WE WERE NOTIFIED, WE'VE COME AND IT WAS KIND OF LAST MINUTE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, BUT IF I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ORGANIZE.
IF WE NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE HERE WE CAN DO ALL WE'RE ASKING IS TO BE MADE COMFORTABLE SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS BEING PUT IN, IN A NEIGHBOR THAT AFFECTS US WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES.
I JUST LIKE, LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, OR WE ARE RESTATING THAT WITH THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE TREES THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY OVER A PROPOSED HOUSING, THOSE ARE GONNA STAY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CLEARING A LOT OUT ALL TOGETHER.
I WASN'T, I WAS KIND OF, I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS.
I'LL LET MR. DESERT RESPOND TO THAT.
AS I STATED BEFORE, EVERY SINGLE TREE THAT WE CAN SAY ADDS VALUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE COMMITTED TO SAVE EVERYONE WE CAN.
IF THE TREE IS IN THE BUILDING PAD, AND MOST OF THESE HOUSES WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OCCUPY A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE BUILDING PAD.
THEY CANNOT BE SAVED AND BUILD A HOME THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS THE SAME CONDITION.
WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE WAS TREES THERE WHEN THEY DEVELOPED, AND UNFORTUNATELY DEVELOPMENT DOES REQUIRE SOME TREES TO GO AWAY OR YOU CAN'T DEVELOP.
AND SO WE WISH WE COULD DEVELOP.
I MEAN, WE WISH WE COULD SAVE EVERY CHEAP.
I THINK HE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT HIS PROPERTY.
THERE ARE THREE, THREE, LOTS THAT ARE GOING TO BACK UP TO THE TWO THEM, THERE'S A 30 FOOT STRIP THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH.
SO THOSE TREES ON THE 31ST CIRCLE THAT WILL NOT BE TOUCHED.
NOPE, WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT PART OF OUR PROPERTY.
THEY'RE ANOTHER ENTITIES PROPERTY JUST SO HAPPENS.
IT'S THE CITY OF BEDFORD, THE CITY OF BEDFORD ACTUALLY OWNS THAT STRIP.
SO WE HAVE NO RIGHT WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION TO REMOVE THOSE TREES.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD GET THEIR PERMISSION.
AND SO I HOPE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, I RESPECT ALL THEIR CONCERNS, THE RUSTIC WOODS AREA.
I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THESE HOUSES ARE GOING TO AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE, CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THOSE ARE VALID THINGS TO LISTEN AND HEAR ABOUT, BUT AFFECTING THEIR PROPERTY VALUES IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
I JUST I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME AND I JUST, I CAN'T SEE THAT.
I HOPE IT MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A VERY, VERY UPSCALE, VERY NICE PRODUCT HERE.
THEY'RE DOING A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT IN EULAS ON ASH LANE HOUSES.
THEY'RE A GREAT, I WELCOME ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO LOOK.
YOU CAN GET A GOOD FEEL OF THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO BEDFORD.
THANKS AGAIN, MR. DUKE, ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION
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ON THE APPLICATION? OKAY.UM, THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I'LL OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
IF THERE'S ANY, UH, POINTS OR COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE, MAYBE I MISSED THIS IS THIS, THAT OHA AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S GOING TO BE A
BASED ON THEIR DOCUMENTS AND IF I CAN ADDRESS, WE HAVE TO, THEY WANT TO DO HOA NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THE SCREENING WALL UP FRONT.
IT WOULD BE VERY ONEROUS FOR THOSE LOTS TO HAVE TO REPLACE A MASONRY WALL.
SHOULD THERE BE AN ACCIDENT OR DESTRUCTION OF THE WALL? IN ADDITION, THE COMMON AREA WITH THE DETENTION POND WILL BE UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA.
UH, MR. DAVIS, I HAVE A CONFIDENCE IN OUR CITY STAFF AND THEY DO HAVE CODIFIED RULES ABOUT DRAINAGE AND THEY WILL NOT ALLOW ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE, PEAK DRAINAGE TO LEAVE THIS SITE.
IT'S IT'S LIKE I SAY, I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR CITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD THEM TO THE FIRE AND THEY, THEY WILL DO ALL THE MODELING AND DO ALL THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND WILL NOT ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT TO NEGATIVELY IMPACTED DOWNSTREAM HOMEOWNERS AND ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS I THINK, UH, OR DRAINAGE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I WOULD REALLY WORRY ABOUT AS A CITIZEN OF BEDFORD.
AND WE HAVE RULES TO MAKE THAT WORK.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, IT'S STILL THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES, BUT I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL LEFT TURN BAY, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE WE CAN ASK OTHER THAN THE CITY.
NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL BOND PROGRAM AND DEVELOPING OUR STREET PLAN, THE MEDIANS AND HARWOOD, UH, THIS SORT OF THING IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ADDRESS THERE.
CAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT SIGNAL 1 21 AND HARWOOD, CAUSE I'VE SAT THROUGH IT MORE TIMES.
AND THE WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IS TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION THEORY IS NOW THEY DO ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS SEPARATELY AND IT'S REALLY NOT FUN.
WELL, THERE'S MUCH WORSE THINGS IN THE WORLD, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXTRA MINUTE OR TWO AND IT BACKS UP ON HARWOOD.
IT BACKS UP ON THE OTHER WEST SIDE AND THE OTHERS THAT'S A TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S A CITY TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION, UM, ISSUE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
IT'S ALSO IN TECH STOPS RIGHT AWAY.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION TOO.
BUT JUST TO NOTE, NO MATTER WHAT OUTCOME HERE IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS STRETCH OF HARWOOD'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO I HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY THIS.
IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I MEAN, THIS IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD CONDITIONS ON APPROVAL TO THIS.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING, IF YOU WANT TO SEE A TRAFFIC STUDY OR A SIGNALIZATION STUDY, AS YOU JUST ALLUDED TO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD THAT TO THE CONDITION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE DENYING.
IT JUST MEANS THAT WHEN THEY COME FOR A PLANNING STAGE, THEY NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
MY CONCERN IS THE SIGNALIZATION IS GOING TO BE FIXED ON HARDWOOD IN 1 21.
AND THE TIMING THERE HERE, IT'S MORE STREET B LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN ANYMORE.
UM, I CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THEM, ALL OF THE MEDIANS WOULD INTERFACE OUT OF THESE A'S AND MAY AND BE HERE JUST TO ELIMINATE.
I MEAN, THAT'S TO COME OUT OF ME, JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO COME OUT OF B, NOT BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT AND TO COME HOME FROM 1 21.
I MEAN SOMEWHERE, SEE FOR THIS TO WORK, THOSE MEDIUMS NEEDED.
SO I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO LITIGATE MEDIANS AND TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT TONIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE LAND USE APPROPRIATE IS THE DENSITY APPROPRIATE IS THE LAYOUT APPROPRIATE.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TONIGHT TO MAKE A EMOTION WITH THE CONDITION THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AT THE, AT THE PLANNING STAGE, OR YOU CAN TABLE IT FOR A TRUCK STUDY TO BE DONE TONIGHT.
YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITION THAT TRAFFIC STUDY BE DONE, PLOTTING STAGE.
THOSE ARE ALL OPTIONS YOU HAVE.
SO IF THOSE ARE CONDITIONS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BEING BOXED INTO A DECISION TONIGHT.
THOSE WERE THE OPTIONS YOU HAVE.
NO, BUT I AGREE THAT NOT, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING FORCED TO TURN RIGHT.
IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO GO TO DAIRY QUEEN, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD BE
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INTERESTED IN THINKING ABOUT REQUIRING THAT THERE BE TWO OPENINGS FOR BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCES AS A CONDITION.NOW IT'S TOO CLOSE TO 1 21 TO HAVE TWO OPENINGS.
I THINK IT TO SAY THAT YOUR CLOSE AND SIGNALIZATION YOUR, YOU WOULD BEAT, YOU WOULD HAVE BACKED UP DOUBLE SIGNALS.
NOT A SIGNAL
IT'S A, IT'S NOT A REAL FAR AWAY AROUND TO GO OUT ON A IF YOU'RE ON B.
SO MAYBE WE DO SAY WE'D LIKE, BECAUSE PEOPLE'S THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE AT THE LIGHT THEY'RE THERE.
THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GET PAST STREET A RIGHT.
NO, I WAS JUST SAYING THIS FALLS, THE NORTHWEST OF TOWN ABOUT OBLIGATE TRAFFIC FLOW AND TRAFFIC CIVILIZATION.
THERE'S USE MEDIANS ARE ACTUALLY VERY USEFUL ON THAT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THESE MEDIUMS AREN'T NECESSARILY IDEAL FOR WHAT'S THERE, BUT WE'RE STRICTLY DOING THAT AND ENTITLEMENT FOR USE.
SO IT ISN'T JUST THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO WHAT'S THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU HAVE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS SOME THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, YOU CAN'T ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS CLOSE TO THIS POINT.
UM, DO WE WANT TO ADD MR. DO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HE CERTAINLY WANTS TO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE.
YOU NEED LIKE A RED, YOU JUST NEED A RED BANDANA OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE ME THE, YOU KNOW, AIRPORT SIGNAL.
UM, NO, BE I THOUGHT I'D HEARD THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC SENATOR, THAT THERE WAS ONE UNDERTAKEN.
IF THERE ISN'T THEN I WOULD THINK THAT WAS THE OTHER CASE.
WHAT THE OTHER CASE WE DID AND I HAD A DA COURT.
NO, THEY, THEY MENTIONED TERMS. I, AND I AGREE.
THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE CAPACITY OF HARWOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED, 200 CARS.
IT'S A MATTER OF SAFETY AND FOLLOW.
AND I WOULD SAY A TRAFFIC STUDY DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT THERE'S A CAPACITY ISSUE.
IT JUST MEANS THAT THERE MAY BE MEDIAN THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED OR ADDED OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENT THAT MAY COME FROM ME.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.
SO Y'ALL WANT TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK TO THAT.
THAT'S YOUR DECISION TO NOT DO THE MEDIAN.
YOU WANT TO SAY, THANKS, GO AHEAD AND SPIT IT OUT.
DO WHATEVER WORK WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO WITH IMMEDIATES.
WHAT IS, WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THERE'S DRIVEWAYS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH SPACING BETWEEN OPENINGS THAT ARE VERY RIGID IN THE CITY RULES.
IF THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL ALLOW US JUST TO WIPE THOSE MEDIUMS OUT AND PUT WHAT I ALWAYS USED TO CALL IT, KAMIKAZE LANG WHERE YOU HAVE A CONTINUOUS, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO DO IT.
SO YEAH, THAT IS A VERY, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAT COULD BE VERY RATHER CONTENTIOUS IN TERMS OF, WELL, WE'LL JUST TAKE THIS MEDIUM.
SO THERE'S A FIFTH ARE DEVELOPED, THERE'S A STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HARWOOD.
AND IT COMES UP BEHIND WHAT USED TO BE BARREL, WHICH BEFORE THAT WAS A WALMART AND START THOUGHT THAT IT, LIKE, IT GOES INTO ONE OF THE OPENINGS IN THE MEDIUM, BUT I THOUGHT IT WENT DIRECTLY INTO THEIR DRIVE.
MAYBE IT MIGHT, THEIR DRIVE IS OFF TO THE SIDE.
AND I APPRECIATE PATIENTS THAT BISECT IT RIGHT IN BETWEEN WHERE THE TWO INTERESTS IS.
I MEAN, WELL, WHEN CITY STAFF IS ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS HAS GOT A POINT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN ATTACH SOME STUFF IF WE'RE NOT FEELING JUST RIGHT ABOUT IT.
SO YOU WOULD SAY, ARE WE GOING TO SEE A SITE PLAN OR DESIGN, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE PLAT AND WELL, THE TWO TODAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE GENERAL LAYOUT.
WHEN THE PLANNING STAGE COMES INTO PLAY, WHICH IS AFTER ZONING HAS BEEN APPROVED, OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL PROVIDE A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A FINAL PLAT BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT.
IF I WAS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THEN
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I WOULD SAY THAT YOU PROBABLY, YOU SEEM LIKE YOU ARE HAVING SOME CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC THE MOST AT THIS POINT.UM, IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH THE USE IN YOUR, YOUR ONLY CONCERN IS TRAFFIC, THEN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BE DONE ON THE SITE, PARTICULARLY WITH CONCERN TO MEDIANS AND DRIVEWAY CUTS.
AND THAT, THAT BE DONE AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE.
NO, THAT I JUST, YEAH, THAT'S TRUE BEANS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE IN THE MEDIA AND THEN LIKE, SEE, JUST SEE HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT.
CAUSE THAT'S, TO ME THAT'S THE WHOLE CRUX OF CHANGING THE USE IS GOING FROM A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK IN AND OUT AT A COUPLE OF CHURCH BUILDINGS TO A CONTINUOUS 24 7 OUT OF 50 53 HOMES ONTO AN ALREADY BUSY STREET.
THAT'S THE REAL CRUX OF CHANGING THE USE OF THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND KEEP IN MIND YOUR YES, YOU UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT KEEP IN MIND ANY CHANGE TO THOSE MEETINGS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THE CITY ENGINEER'S NOT GOING TO SIGN OFF ON ANYTHING UNTIL THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE TO, TO APPROVE THAT.
UM, AND THAT WHATEVER IS PROPOSED IS THE BEST OPTION FOR TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA.
SO I'M ACTUALLY STILL GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE.
EVEN IF I UNDERSTAND, WE MAY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE MEDIANS AND THAT'S FINE, BUT IN ORDER TO, IF, IF THE APPLICANT COMES BACK AND SAYS, OR IF THE TRAFFIC STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS, ALL THE MEETINGS CAN BE GONE AND WE CAN DO A KAMIKAZE LANE, AS THE APPLICANT SAID, THEN THE TRAFFIC STATE IS GOING TO SAY THAT.
AND IN FACT, THAT'S GOING TO SAY, IT'S SAFE TO DO THAT.
THE CITY ENGINEER'S NOT GOING TO APPROVE ANYTHING UNTIL SOME TYPE OF STUDY IS DONE TO SUGGEST THAT I HOPE THEY DON'T USE THE WORD COMMON, TAKING THE WORD OF THE APPLICANT SUICIDE.
TWO-WAY SINGLE TURN COMMISSIONED.
THAT'D BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
SEE IF YOU CAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOT.
A CONCORDIA EDITION, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH PARTS OF A LOT, A WESLEYAN EDITION IN CASE P Z P U D 2 0 2 1 5 0 0 7 3.
PROVE THAT PENDING THE OUTCOME OF A TRAFFIC STUDY TO INVOLVE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, TO INVOLVE MEDIANS ENTRANCES, EXITS TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THIS, AND THEN HAVE THAT BE PERFORMED BEFORE FINAL PLANNING AND I'LL OKAY.
UM, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, DID YOU GET ALL THAT? UM, I GOT IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION APPROVED CONTINGENT UPON TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR HARWOOD.
UM, COMMISSIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, WELL LET ME SEE YOUR HAND.
I GUESS PUT ME DOWN FOR AN EYE, BUT YEAH, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THING I THINK IS IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT HARWOOD ROAD NOW.
WELL, I DON'T WANNA, I WANNA, I DON'T WANNA APPEAR NEGATIVE, BUT OKAY.
UM, SO HOW'S THIS GOING TO HANDLE FOR THEM? THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, BUT SO YEAH, WE UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION IS THAT, UH, IT'S PROVEN WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE TRUCK, THE IMPACTING US WOULD BE DONE BEFORE FINAL PLAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZABLE WITH THAT CONDITION.
WHEN IS THAT FOR HIM? UH, NOVEMBER 23RD, NOVEMBER 23RD GENTLEMEN.
SO THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL WAS FOR A, UM, APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT HE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BE DONE PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT.
SO FINAL PLAT WOULD BE AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING AND THE PLANNING AND FINAL APPROVAL.
YEAH, THERE'S A NOVEMBER 23RD MEETING ACCOUNT OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
NOW WE'RE DONE NOVEMBER 23RD AT COUNCIL'S NEXT DISCUSSION ALL WEEKEND.
WELL, I, I TAKE THAT UP WITH CITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HANDLE THE RECORDING.
THIS MEETING IS RECORDED AND IT WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
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WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND UH, YEAH.CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH ANY BUSINESS.
CAN A MOTION TO ADJOURN? UH, ANY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.